The Royal Commission's Report on Jehovah's Witnesses - Cedars' vlog no. 138

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Lloyd Evans

Lloyd Evans

7 жыл бұрын

In this video I take a look at a newly-published report by the Australian Royal Commission revealing their conclusions following Case Study 29, in which the practices and policies of Jehovah's Witnesses in relation to child sex abuse were examined. As predicted, the Commission's report is scathing. And with Watchtower due to appear before the Commission again in March 2017 for Case Study 54, there is no indication of Watchtower having any desire to implement urgently needed reforms.
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@genesimorales1893
@genesimorales1893 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up in a abusive household, where my mother, who is a JW, was the abuser. When I was 20 I ran away because my mother beat on me, left scratches and marks. I left my house with blood on my shirt, MY blood, and just the clothes on my back. I finally gathered the courage to report my mother to the elders, (I had pictures and proof of the abuse), the elders insisted I go back home because, "where would I go to the meetings? And who would make sure I got fed spiritually?" So fck the fact that my mother was beating the crap out of me, I had to go back home. And nothing happened to my mother because of the two witness rule. 20 years of my life, wasted, in a cult and getting emotionally, sexually, and physically assaulted. THIS IS REAL PEOPLE. there are many JW children growing up like this. It has to stop.
@Rhinosaurus1000
@Rhinosaurus1000 4 жыл бұрын
Henny C Morales Sorry to hear 😞
@justinthyme3396
@justinthyme3396 4 жыл бұрын
I send my love and pray you fully recover from PTSD....
@Krazykamel
@Krazykamel Жыл бұрын
I am one all my teenage years robbed... In a abusive controlling house and verballly and emotional insult
@katiecarroll4316
@katiecarroll4316 7 жыл бұрын
I am watching this with heart pounding anxiety and tears. I lived this! I was so enveloped in this life. My father and uncles were and are elders. And everything that is said in this Australian report is exactly what is practiced all over the world. It's time that United States follow suit.
@Stella-mi7vz
@Stella-mi7vz 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a ritual they do, the more you do the higher position you get, disgusting!!!! Masonic practice!!
@Rhinosaurus1000
@Rhinosaurus1000 4 жыл бұрын
Katie Carroll I can relate! 🤦🏾‍♂️
@christyamar
@christyamar 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stella-mi7vz are you serious?? Don't be afraid to speak your truth. And if it's too hard to talk about now, I understand!
@christyamar
@christyamar 2 жыл бұрын
@Katie did you witness child abuse by the elders?? I was a babtized JW for a year or so and then just left like that. No real attachments as none of my family is a JW. But bc i was in the org for a long while off and on i find the JW stories fascinating. .
@melanieoreilly2565
@melanieoreilly2565 2 жыл бұрын
I faded away about 35 years ago, after having been a very active witness for many years. However, until approximately a month ago, when I stumbled across you on You Tube, I still felt the JWs had the truth, and that I would pay with my life for not wanting to be micro managed by them. To my utmost astonishment (and enormous relief) I did a 180 degree turn around after listening to you Lloyd, in one very enlightening hour. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. In fact, I've recently started making a point of telling people who know me, about the fact that I've seen the light. Never in a lifetime would I have thought that I would change my mind, but I did - in 1 short hour, listening to you. How could I have been so blind back then? It's frankly embarrassing.
@michelejashinsky8409
@michelejashinsky8409 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately it happened to probably everyone on this site
@rayeregan8114
@rayeregan8114 5 жыл бұрын
In my childhood congregation there was an elder I viewed as a father who made a move on me when I was 15. I was at the computer and he had been drinking- he came up behind me, put his hands on me, bit my ear and said he could just eat me up. I knew I couldn't tell my parents because of of how they reacted to me speaking up about what my grandfather had done to me so I called my friends mom and begged her for help. She came right over to talk to me and my parents eavesdropped outside the door. They made her leave and blamed me for what happened, told me I'd go to jail because it was my fault he did it, and for years after they said I had dragged their name through the mud. Reputation. It all comes down to WS's reputation. If they speak up or alert the authorities they won't look so perfect. They'll look flawed. Their reputation will be tarnished. It was that way for my parents and I know where they got it from now. He's still an elder to this day.
@jaloangel.8403
@jaloangel.8403 3 жыл бұрын
im so sorry that happened to you. it was never your fault.💕i hope you’re doing better
@rayeregan8114
@rayeregan8114 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaloangel.8403 I finally got out and it was the very best decision I have ever made.
@rayeregan8114
@rayeregan8114 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaloangel.8403 and thank you hun, it means so much
@Lovealwayswins1
@Lovealwayswins1 3 жыл бұрын
Finally woke up very painful my prayers are with the victims and ex JWs may Jesus correct these Pharisees
@ethereal.sara.wilson
@ethereal.sara.wilson Жыл бұрын
Sorry about that, but you have to understand that there will always be bad people whether in the congregation or out of it, please be safe ❤
@kaitlynrayne7067
@kaitlynrayne7067 6 жыл бұрын
I was sexually molested by a ministerial servant from age 4-7 hundreds of times. The lack of care and help from the elders and my parents as well as the grilling judicial committee that treated me, a 7 year old girl, as the villain, was worse than anything that pedophile did to me. Years later in my teens I had flashbacks and emotional damage from it and my father, the Presiding Overseer, said "It wasn't that big of a deal. Get over it." Thank you for your videos and your exposition of this cult.
@dawnross2514
@dawnross2514 6 жыл бұрын
kaitlyn rayne I'm so sorry you went through this. Much love.
@kristinaberger4853
@kristinaberger4853 7 жыл бұрын
These videos are saving lives... being 5th generation JW in my family I knew that you never ever go to elders... no matter what has happened.. if something really bad has happened, go to the hospital or police. In the 90s I studied with a young adolescent who was abused by her stepfather, and after he got out of jail for the abuse he was passing the mike like nothing happened. Her mother also took him back and she (the adolescent) was living with him again (I don't know if the elders pressured the mom to take him back). I faded out a year later.....
@Rhinosaurus1000
@Rhinosaurus1000 4 жыл бұрын
Kristina Berger Wow. 🤦🏾‍♂️
@pinkfuschia8140
@pinkfuschia8140 7 жыл бұрын
You're doing a fantastic job. Please carry on bringing these practices to light. It helps those who are outside the org thinking of going in to it, those encouraging loved ones to leave, those in that have doubts, those brought up in it and are trapped with fear of losing family by leaving like I know you did and those like me still deprogramming after having left years ago. Thanks for directing abuse victims to the Royal Commission in Australia and for letting us know about the Charities Commission in UK in your other videos. You genuinely have love my friend.
@lindaennis7485
@lindaennis7485 7 жыл бұрын
Twenty years ago i was warned by an elder to 'keep quiet or i cud get done for slander' when i voiced my concerns reguarding the questionable behaviour of a 'brother' in the congregation i was in at the time. As a result i left the organisation as nobody took what i was saying about pedophiles infultrating the organisation.
@mbret1234
@mbret1234 7 жыл бұрын
I just want to thank you and your videos about this and other subjects about the witnesses. I was 16 when I left and this channel gave me the strength and confidence to do that. your great man keep up everything your doing!
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 7 жыл бұрын
I'm delighted that I was able to help you in some way. Congratulations on your freedom! :)
@iliketrainskid7038
@iliketrainskid7038 7 жыл бұрын
John Cedars mr.cedars um I've been meaning to talk to you about a situation
@wdejong127
@wdejong127 7 жыл бұрын
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@wdejong127
@wdejong127 7 жыл бұрын
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@wdejong127
@wdejong127 7 жыл бұрын
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@sundance8862
@sundance8862 7 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the Australian Government for taking this action to protect their citizens and to identify the risks posed to members of the public. Hopefully the precedent set by this inquiry will motivate other government organizations to focus on the problem. Thank you for sharing and presenting this information.
@beachmom2001
@beachmom2001 7 жыл бұрын
All I can say is I am disgusted but not surprised that an elder has been removed for reporting child abuse allegations to the police. We have to get them! This is unconscionable! Thank you so much for your videos. I have been awake for one year, though dfd since 2009, and they have given me so much encouragement. I know you are busy with your book and look forward to it coming out, but I miss your jwbroadcasting rebuttal videos. The quality of your videos is first rate. I am happy to support you in making these high quality professional videos that provide life changing information. I grow increasingly tired of hearing a certain couple go on and on about how they make KZbin videos in addition to working full time and do not do it as a job or ask for money. Honestly, the quality of their videos can not compare to yours! I, and I am sure many others, are glad you have chosen this as your vocation.
@crowsister1
@crowsister1 7 жыл бұрын
not to undermine sexual abuse I am a survivor, what about all the emotional abuse and growing up in fear that everything you do is wrong in jahovah's eyes ... and growing up without life skills cause you never really were in the world ... I feel they need to pay for way more than just this
@leroyrogers7411
@leroyrogers7411 7 жыл бұрын
What life skills DON'T you know about?? I grew up in it too. What did you miss out on??
@twinstar9
@twinstar9 5 жыл бұрын
@@leroyrogers7411 What about higher education, learning critical thinking, learning that humanity suffers when an "us versus them" mentality is accepted.
@guyandeballonby2423
@guyandeballonby2423 7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing my corner store posts all the sex offenders in the area for the community, but the congregation won't warn the community or members, Horrific
@godislove544
@godislove544 7 жыл бұрын
Two witness rule goes back to Deuteronomy and the Old Law which Jesus fulfilled and ended. Why does the GB cling to this?
@gayle228
@gayle228 6 жыл бұрын
God Is Love because they are Jews/Masonry?
@keenan82
@keenan82 7 жыл бұрын
I came out of the religion about 6 years ago, and up until recently because of conditioning had been afraid to dig into info like this. to say what ive found is alarming would be an understatement. im just so frustrated that my WHOLE family is still happily trapped.
@catmeow333
@catmeow333 4 жыл бұрын
I suggest that when people go door-to-Door, the witnesses download a convicted sex criminal app onto their phones. In most states in USA the offender has to register his address which can be accessed.
@Nantchev
@Nantchev 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a separate video calling for victims to come forward. Separate title, SEO, dedicated contact details etc.
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 7 жыл бұрын
I've done that in this video, and anyone is free to make their own video if they think a different title will be more effective.
@eddie51arz
@eddie51arz 7 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that I want the JW organization to pay a HUGE FINE about this. So much that it'll catch media's attention and they'll be even under more scrutiny?!
@cathrsys9584
@cathrsys9584 7 жыл бұрын
No it's not bad. That just means you're sane. I hope so too. In fact, I can't wait to see this all come crashing down into oblivion. As a survivor of child abuse myself, not of a jw, I have zero tolerance. I want them gone or dead or at the very least I want the governing body in prison. I don't care how. I almost killed myself because of the pain they left me in and I'm still reelig everyday..... yeah...I wouldn't mind seeing them dead. How can that be bad? c:
@eddie51arz
@eddie51arz 7 жыл бұрын
CaThRSys I'm sorry to hear that bud stay strong💪🏽
@twinstar9
@twinstar9 7 жыл бұрын
I read that they are being fined and every day that they don't pay, the fine goes up. In early Nov 2016 the amount was 1/2 million. I also read that over half the donations go toward paying child abuse settlements (hush money).
@jamieangel3766
@jamieangel3766 7 жыл бұрын
how horrific. Sorry that happened to you
@toscanoplaster5603
@toscanoplaster5603 5 жыл бұрын
If you knew that your attacker would eventually stand before God one day for his crimes would that be an equitable form of justice ?
@kellifielder3405
@kellifielder3405 5 жыл бұрын
It has been along time but I was abused sexually and physically multiple times. I struggle to move on. Most of my family are elders, circuit overseas.
@loriw2661
@loriw2661 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the work you do in exposing an awful problem with this organization. ALL religions are culpable in not protecting the abused and spend more time and effort in keeping it quiet and relocating offenders so that they can offend again. Disgusting!
@juliechurley2716
@juliechurley2716 5 ай бұрын
But at least religions ( I regard JWs as a cult not a religion) have procedures in place which compel reporting to the police. And worse, the two witness rule sets them apart & removed from reality. None of their procedures protect children. NONE!
@gmeorghemarcu4100
@gmeorghemarcu4100 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, thanks from a JW. Please continue to expose this extremely bad problem.
@adventureswiththerobin
@adventureswiththerobin 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lloyd for all you do in your activism work and for helping so many to wake up!!
@leroyrogers7411
@leroyrogers7411 7 жыл бұрын
Wake up to what??
@exploremoreoutdoors9443
@exploremoreoutdoors9443 7 жыл бұрын
Leroy Rogers to the fact that it is a lie
@leroyrogers7411
@leroyrogers7411 7 жыл бұрын
Once again...How is the WT evil?? Give specific's
@georgebrown8312
@georgebrown8312 5 ай бұрын
@lerroyrogerd7411; for the sake of common sense wake up!!! Have you not watched videos of how the Australian Royal Commission has been investigating the Watchtower Society's elders and Governing Body over the problem of sexual abuse against children in the Jehovah's Witnesses congregations?
@ThePpppt
@ThePpppt 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimed I listen to your videos while im working cause it warms my heart. No idea why, though.
@nikolaj.2024
@nikolaj.2024 3 жыл бұрын
bonjour, peux-tu activer les sous-titres en français pour toutes tes vidéos ? merci...
@constpegasus
@constpegasus 5 жыл бұрын
Hey john, can you post when the Deut. Chapter 22 was brought up?
@oneofmany7768
@oneofmany7768 7 жыл бұрын
Is the article in the February 2017 Watchtower (the Kingdom Hall edition) where they admit to not being inspired, and also to making mistakes, the beginning of damage control, or is it something else?
@pelle571
@pelle571 7 жыл бұрын
their hidden agenda maybe is to escape and get away with admitting they are only humans....maybe the NWO has in mind the wt has done its time and is to be scrapped soon....
@LukePermoda
@LukePermoda 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a gift to humankind. You do a very important job, can't wait to see your book.
@johnnyruins9025
@johnnyruins9025 7 жыл бұрын
well said john we can all work together to put pressure on this cult to change to make things safer for children all the best jon
@marciageorgiou1787
@marciageorgiou1787 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you angel, i am from australia i am a survive me and my daughters are going for redress in 2021. I am also doing this for my sister's and for my dear past Mother.
@beaniebooland9139
@beaniebooland9139 Жыл бұрын
Marcia can I ask how the process with redress has been? I just heard back that they don't think the jws are responsible because it didn't happen at the hall. My mind is blown.
@marciageorgiou1787
@marciageorgiou1787 Жыл бұрын
@@beaniebooland9139 i haven't heard back from them for awhile, but haven't been told that. I had better touch bases back with them to see how the claim is going.
@lulukinyozibeauty5628
@lulukinyozibeauty5628 4 жыл бұрын
This is enough for me to proudly say with no fear or doubt I am an EX-JW
@toscanoplaster5603
@toscanoplaster5603 5 жыл бұрын
So what charges did the ARC LAY ? What legal warning were they given?
@1980mjp
@1980mjp 7 жыл бұрын
John, where can I find the response G. Jackson sent in disputing the one witness example from Deuteronomy?
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 7 жыл бұрын
There is a link to the document in my JWsurvey article on Geoffrey Jackson's testimony. Google is your friend! :)
@1980mjp
@1980mjp 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Found it. jwsurvey.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/STAT.0670.001.0001.pdf
@bwcwxx
@bwcwxx Жыл бұрын
and now we are in 2022 and it's still the SAME!! JUST 4 IN THE LAST WEEK have now been arrested for 19 children being sexually abused!! come on. wtf arnt they doing something about this!! disgusting.
@saraabraham5486
@saraabraham5486 7 жыл бұрын
Here it is an elder suggested to my husband to separate from me because I know facts about the organization; look at the Dirt on this organization. May God Judge this Watchtower for keeping people apart simply for their own made doctrine.
@godislove544
@godislove544 7 жыл бұрын
I've heard this, elders suggesting a mate leave another if they are "apostate" but the JW literature and elders often recommend a woman to stay with an abusive mate and win him over. Double standard.
@dianesicgala4310
@dianesicgala4310 7 жыл бұрын
I was a J.W. For 19years. So glad to be back in the Catholic Church. They did me a lot of damage. My dear daughter left many years before me. I was told not to go to her wedding. I listened to the elders. Wish I could get through to my friends still in this bad organization. By don't we hear all about this terrible stuff in the news. How do they keep it hidden.
@leroyrogers7411
@leroyrogers7411 7 жыл бұрын
You're a Catholic? REALLY?? Don't Catholics believe in the Trinity? And don't they worship the Pope?? And pray to Mary?
@exploremoreoutdoors9443
@exploremoreoutdoors9443 7 жыл бұрын
Leroy Rogers all preferable to being a JW. By far. Even if these doctrines are incorrect. The watchtower is evil
@leroyrogers7411
@leroyrogers7411 7 жыл бұрын
How is it evil??
@ParanormalEncyclopedia
@ParanormalEncyclopedia 6 жыл бұрын
Leroy Rogers they don't worship the pope (they believe that under very very specific and rare circumstances a pope speaks directly from God and that is infallible as is any other prophet according to scripture) nor do they worship Mary. Respect her yes, ask her to pray for them yes but worship would be heresy).
@sheilawilson1046
@sheilawilson1046 6 жыл бұрын
you jumped from the fire, into the frying pan????please say it isnt so!!!!!
@emmaderry4679
@emmaderry4679 7 жыл бұрын
Are the Elders telling the congregations about the Australlian Royal Commission? because I have tried telling JWs in my old congregation. No one wants to believe me.. Should I make copies of the trail and send it to them?
@sallyhawkes9911
@sallyhawkes9911 7 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks John it's disgusting how w tower think they can do what they want good for the royal commission
@warpfactordave
@warpfactordave 7 жыл бұрын
please can you contact me regarding your comments on this video? i have some important info
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 7 жыл бұрын
Hi David! The JWsurvey team can be reached on the "contact@jwsurvey.org" address. I look forward to hearing from you! :)
@VMJM85
@VMJM85 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just curious, if an elders child came to him and said that he or she was touched or abused by a non JW, like a teacher, babysitter, non believing relative, would they still practice and apply the “TWO WITNESS” rule? I bet they wouldn’t!!!!! Which makes them hypocritical!!!!! The elders and the organization would advice the parents to go to the police, file charges and so forth!!! Now if someone told the witnesses to apply the “TWO WITNESS” rule, it would be then that they would see how fucking ridiculousness this teaching is!!!!!
@OsmanitoTorres
@OsmanitoTorres 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cedars!
@craigstewart7565
@craigstewart7565 7 жыл бұрын
One of the most galling things about all of this (although it's undoubtedly progress) is how utterly dismissive most JW's will be regarding these findings. For most, they will find comfort in their well established mistrust of the authorities and will still cling to the notion that the organisation is faultless. Until there is far more widespread and significant exposure of this and future cases as well as firm legal consequences for the organisation, it'll be conveniently swept under the carpet and soon forgotten about. Still, it IS progress and it will hopefully wake some up to the hideous reality and truth of how culpable the organisation has been in the suffering of victims of childhood sexual abuse. Appalling.
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351 7 жыл бұрын
Sadly, most JW's will NEVER look at this. If you bring it to their attention they will not listen and mentally block you off and write you off as a depraved apostate. They will make excuses and predetermine it to be an attack from Satan rather than even consider the facts. JW's will in their mind feel that this is simply more evidence that Jehovah is about to bring down death from the sky to all who are not JW's.... They are ruled by fear and held in tiny mind prisons were they are never free to even think for themselves or even ask legitimate questions. Worst of all is that many of these poor people would fall to pieces if faced with the reality that the WT Org. is not only a false religion but a Satanic cult set up to gather in millions to unwittingly participate in the Freemasonic ritual of rejecting the Christ at the memorial calibration.
@robynbass9636
@robynbass9636 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct.. I live in the UK & faded many years ago, I fell upon the A.R.C FEB. 2016. I told my JW parents in Australia. They cut me off Skype and mother e mailed and said I was pocessed by satan. They told the immediate family including my sister & brother in law who is a high up elder in Sydney branch for 15 years. Despite 102 e mails, cards, letter and a video of myself asking why the wall of silence, I continue to be blocked on all social media and the land line is on answer phone. ITS CALLED SHUNNING, MY CRIME WAS TO TELL THEM SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR RDLIGIONTHAY DID NOT WANT TO HEAR. Roll on March 2017 and power to your case a.r.c.
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351 7 жыл бұрын
Robyn Bass Isn't it amazing.... there they are in Australia and they wont even look at the ARC.... How do the go in service???? Are they not confronted with questions in the field about the ARC??? If it was an attack from Satan as they claim would they not give a defense? Would they not be able to point out how it is false and show at least some kind of evidence to the contrary of the ARC??? You see instead, they are told not to even watch the ARC. That to even look at it would be an act of disloyalty to Jehovah. But if it was an attack from Satan than it would just be a false accusation and the JW's would have a good reason to be aware of it and dispute it to the people they meet. Putting your head up your own ass and pretending the ARC never happened or is not still happening is the mark of a mind controlled slave.
@bubblestar2314
@bubblestar2314 7 жыл бұрын
The Government needs to also investigate whether or not the Watchtower Organization is actually a CHARITY organizaton.
@leroyrogers7411
@leroyrogers7411 7 жыл бұрын
They're NOT and have NEVER claimed to be one? NO NEED for an investigation...SMH..LOL
@jamieangel3766
@jamieangel3766 7 жыл бұрын
YES they have! For DECADES now LEROY! They have a charity registered number, they claim charity status to AVOID TAX. Not because they actually do any charity. Wow can you get any more ignorant? I know that education is highly discouraged by GB but please, at least KNOW yourselves! Like know that JWs were also signed up with The United Nations as an NGO for ten years FFS, you know The Wild Beast whom JWs hate and slag off as much as Christendom?
@leroyrogers7411
@leroyrogers7411 7 жыл бұрын
LOLLL..And you need to get your info about JWs from JWs and stop getting your info from Morons on JWs bashing websites and Apostates. That way you won't look so stupid when you make false comments about people.. LOL And if I was saying things as stupid as what's coming out of your mouth, I really wouldn't be too quick to question someone else's educational status.. DUHHHHHHHHH??? LOL
@leroyrogers7411
@leroyrogers7411 7 жыл бұрын
HAAAAAAAAAA....And I just noticed something else you wrote...IDIOT.. What does NGO stand for?? I'll wait...(whistling) LOL
@ParanormalEncyclopedia
@ParanormalEncyclopedia 6 жыл бұрын
Leroy Rogers you bed to start getting your info from unbiased sources. JW web sites DONT COUNT
@rubenoeschger5728
@rubenoeschger5728 10 ай бұрын
Agree that its worse. So many cases we don't know about and just following the comments on various videos we can clearly see thete are many more !!
@fionapowney6489
@fionapowney6489 7 жыл бұрын
I can imagine that it is the case that the elder or elders got into trouble for co operating with the police. you aren't encouraged to go to the police with anything that's in connection with JWs as they want to either appear perfect to outsiders or they take certain situations as proof of the persecution Jesus said his followers would experience. quite aside from the two witness rule. for example when I was in the ministry nearly 20 years ago my companion, myself and my 2 year old son called on a householder who pulled a gun on us and held us back from getting away and when we did manage to, he followed us down a secluded road . I was terrified. I reported it to the police who were lovely and empathetic and they went and questioned the guy about what he did. I was villified by an elder for reporting it to the police, and was told I should expect that treatment in these last days! what about protecting my small son? of course our children's lives are less important to JWs than propping up their propaganda.I could say more about the main topic of this video too, the findings of the commission are true. child abuse and domestic abuse are not dealt with properly by JWs I know that from people who have suffered and are still suffering.
@boldtruth5836
@boldtruth5836 7 жыл бұрын
In 2004, a Canadian court awarded CAD$5000 to a plaintiff for the negligence of an elder who failed to follow the official policy of the church. However, the court dismissed charges against the Watch Tower Society, and directed the plaintiff to pay the Watch Tower Society's legal fees amounting to CAD$142,000.[62][63]
@Martinj1417
@Martinj1417 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job Lloyd, but how can they know if there is a child molester in the territory if the elders are not allowed to inform other congregations. I am so glad I am out this cult. February 23 2016 will always be a special day for me. The day I woke up.
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! I also woke up in 2016... literally at the memorial... I hope this organization is brought to justice and the GB and high up leadership is publicly exposed for all of it. Although I realize that many JW's will just think that that was the start of the great tribulation. It wont be surprising to them that it was not "Christendom" that was destroyed but rather the WT Org. because they were wrong about 1914, 1925, 1975, the generation of 1914 etc.
@Martinj1417
@Martinj1417 7 жыл бұрын
Truth Seeker I woke up during an elders meeting. After the Tuesday night meeting the elders got together. I realized then it was all fake. I wanted to run away and scream! I waited until it was over. I had to say the closing pray and that was my last prayer and my last meeting ever! I was the service overseer before I left. I emailed the cobe and told him I was done. It was my come leave Jesus moment.
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351 7 жыл бұрын
Martinj1417 For me it was the brother giving the memorial talk. He said millions now living will survive Armageddon.... Two problems: 1. he meant only JW's will survive and that simply does not make sense. 2. That is what Rutherford said and all those people are dead. It was like a light switched on, all of their BS teachings and false prophecy came to mind at once. Then I thought about how the elders treated people and all the stupid rules that are not in the bible. Finally I gave myself permission to research the organization and found that it was a Freemasonic/ Luciferian cult and the memorial was the ritual of rejecting the Christ. I don't know what is true about the universe but I do no for certain that the WT Org. is nothing more than a global corporate pyramid scam.
@Martinj1417
@Martinj1417 7 жыл бұрын
Truth Seeker for me it was throw away all of the old Literature. I had a letter in my inbox that day about trashing old books at the hall. a light popped!
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351 7 жыл бұрын
Martinj1417 Amazing more elders are not waking up.... My father is an elder and I am sure he got that same email. But nothing... The generation of 1914 is long dead, 1975, child rape cases... Individuals being disfellowshiped left and right.... Has the elder body never read Deuteronomy 18: 22? Anyway... congratulations on your freedom!!!
@douglasfreeman3592
@douglasfreeman3592 4 жыл бұрын
So what's being done about it ????
@hsquared808hawaiiheather5
@hsquared808hawaiiheather5 Жыл бұрын
My husband was abusive and a drunk. He was never heald accountable!
@BoninBrighton
@BoninBrighton 6 ай бұрын
Your links are broken in the description
@saramoody1807
@saramoody1807 7 жыл бұрын
you have just inspired me to get in touch with a brief. first thing in the morning . just for starters I know of a elder who served time for abusing young girls , 3 ministerial servants one for abusing his own daughter raping her. one for abusing his own daugt hters friend who was on sleepover. and one who was mentally broken and physically beaten on a daily basis and the center of his sexual kicks by a serving witness. the elder is back in the congregation fold he said he was sorry . min number 2 is back in the congregation fold said he was sorry.min number 3 has not been reprimanded . until now ......
@AV-th7uy
@AV-th7uy 7 жыл бұрын
Astounding information...
@kazpawlik9426
@kazpawlik9426 7 жыл бұрын
Yes,and most JW have no information about Australian report.
@tainaberg2896
@tainaberg2896 7 жыл бұрын
I was an JW until rwo years ago. I knew the circumstances were like this before, earlier, the way they did handle this. But I wasn't aware that this is still happen. I really hoped it has been better how they handle this such of cases. Im sad this still happen that they doesnt understand better.
@princesspancakes3737
@princesspancakes3737 7 жыл бұрын
The same thing is happening in the U.S. as well. . I didn't experience this, but I do have an interesting story. I'm just so conflicted, but I decided I'm going to stop defending them. I live with my mom, primarily, but My dad was a big part of my life, but I feel he could have done more. The way I realized this was I thought back. I thought, Oh! I'm not baptized, but have done everything that would let my dad know his plans didn't work. I would fall asleep in meetings, not want to go to his house, My dad gave me braille literature, and I had a bible, but I only requested meit once, but I was in denial. I wanted to please him. I wanted to try to convince myself that eventually I would be persuaded into getting baptized. For a while when I was younger I did want to serve Jehovah, but by the time I got all the stuff, I was feeling something might not be right. It never happened, and Anyway, at that point my life over there got awkward, because I felt he was disappointed. I was raised on Sunday meetings. I would go there every two weeks and I would go to the hall with them. I felt guilty, but told no one. People don't know what it's like on the inside. Religion is where you get to see people's true nature. My mom was a buddhist and that religion connected with me more than my dad's, but In my young mind, My dad's had more rules, than mine, and salvation, and revelations was and still is my favorite book, but I just couldn't wrap my head around losing my mom. Any, Anyway, then came resentmenthat, I realized that making people suffer for your happiness for only 1000 years was selfish, and I'd rather dye than serve. I still afraid of him, so I said nothing. Anyway, I've learned to accept him for who he is, and I've just accepted that I'll never be the daughter he wanted me to be, because not only have I denounced their god, I'm blind, which he recently told me in their passive aggressive way was a burden. Anyway back to what I was saying, I feel like he could have done more. He never did anything to further my schooling, he didn't even volunteer his time for any of my 15 wears of Iep meetingst. Those were to discuss my indevidual education plan, or come to any of my choir shows. I know they don't usually come to those, but sometimes he went to Christmas at his Grandma's. Now that I've seaid that last statement, he never came to anything I put on. No birthday parties, or just little gatherings I put on just to see my whole familyain one spot when I came home for the weekend while at a school for the blind. I mean, if he socialized with his grandma like that, why couldn't he drop by spontaniously like he did with them? He did anything without my mom asking him first, and that still continues. That leaves me feeling doubts. I loved him unconditionally, so why does he have to do the pretending? Just be in my life or don't be. Don't be in my life only when asked to be there. He did come to my graduation, but I don't think he would haveacame if he wasn't invited. when I couldn't make it to my step sister's graduation , he told me there were limited seats anyway. He didn't invite me either. My step nana got to go. She's not in the truth, but I was never invited. Hmm. Also, he's always been kind of passive aggressive, which to this day pisses me off more than it should, but after I told him my true beliefs, he got worse. Once I told him something that provokes his Jehovah lectures, and he told me straight up that his religion was better than mine, and he tried to use my mom as an example. That pissed me off but I was too afraid to say it directly, because I thought it would ruin our unsteady relationship. Anyway, when I was thinking about shunning, I wondered, was he limiting association with me? If so, why? I'm not baptized, but I guess I could se how he may not want to get too involved in that kind of behavior. Buddhism is a spiritual religion, so maybe he doesn't want to get stumbled. But if that's the case, then why does he let My brother from my mom be friends with th€their son? Maybe it was afterat his wife's wishes. At first he wouldn't let him. It could be his screwed thinking over what was a mom? I don't know, but I don't thinkI'll ever find out. Also, I'm scared for my younger brother. He is so smart. He has the attitude where he knows people of this world can be good, and you are responsible for your own decisions. I don't know what will happen,but I worry because he doesn't have opportunities like mine, and I can oly hint at things. I asked him if he would serve Jehovah, and he said "Probably,." I asked why, and he said "It's the most natural." I don't think he'd fit in their, and eventually get hurt. I don't think he knows how ugly his life could get on the inside. Our congregations are very hypocritical, so maybe he could get by, but he's 16, and doesn't really participate. I'm just afraid they'll preasure him to get baptized. I think he needs to wait until he gets older and he can move out on his own. then he can the world for what it truly is. Beautiful. There's nothing I can do, and it's killing me.
@nixonpresley2111
@nixonpresley2111 7 жыл бұрын
Good work i, i woke up this morning didnt catch this in the news
@nixonpresley2111
@nixonpresley2111 7 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Deep crap , no one , no one in my opinion no publisher thathas committted any Sin or crime could do more damage to " jehovah " than jehovahs witnesses just did this is not just a report its an atomic nuclear bitch slap on " jehovahs " name aka jw.org watchtower or jehovahs people
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351 7 жыл бұрын
All of their literature that is more than 15 years old is the #1 apostate and it is by far the most embarrassing and damming... Their own words and boastful claims of God's direction and approval are so easily disproved and so easily used to hold the WT and GB to the fire. This sex abuse scandal is just the tip of the iceberg of the abuse of this cult. They are ruining millions and millions of lives through their policies and teachings. Children born into this cult are physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually raped for their entire life or until they wake up and escape this cult.
@angedav
@angedav 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lloyd. Will this report delay the release of your book somehow?
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 7 жыл бұрын
Good question! It took a day out of my schedule to make this video, and I am not the only one working on it, so hopefully not! :)
@angedav
@angedav 7 жыл бұрын
Well done Lloyd. Look forward to it
@Nan0nian
@Nan0nian 4 жыл бұрын
Hi man, do you investigate other religions too or just Jehovahs witnesses?
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have to investigate all religions for my observations about one religion I know well to be valid. But yes, as it happens, if you search my channel you will find videos examining other religions.
@pfscpublic
@pfscpublic 5 жыл бұрын
Two years on John is there an update on your Chapter 11 prediction?
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
Can you at least give me the page number? I don't remember making any predictions but if you let me know what you're thinking of I'll happily answer.
@pfscpublic
@pfscpublic 5 жыл бұрын
@@LloydEvans Sorry, (21m 38s) I meant C11 in the context of American Insolvency, I've been working through your Australian Royal Commission KZbins and I was wondering if there is still a view that Australian redress in 2018 would lead to insolvency? Have they dodged a bullet going into 2019?
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
@@pfscpublic I think I commented about a redress scheme for ALL victims potentially bankrupting the organization, not just Australia. If I worded myself poorly in the video you're referring to, I can only apologize.
@pfscpublic
@pfscpublic 5 жыл бұрын
@@LloydEvans Nothing to apologise for John, after finishing the ARC videos and commentary I'm wondering/asking if redress is still on the cards in 2019+?.
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
@@pfscpublic I wouldn't know the latest. I would imagine it's unlikely that Watchtower will accept any accountability.
@philipdalton1000s
@philipdalton1000s 7 жыл бұрын
Those outside the organization will always go out of their way to pick faults with it.
@dianesicgala4310
@dianesicgala4310 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Great video.
@gfmay
@gfmay 6 жыл бұрын
Lyode Fantastic I just cannot keep up with your videos love what you do
@boldtruth5836
@boldtruth5836 7 жыл бұрын
Candice Canti Case In June 2012, a California court ordered the Watchtower Society to pay more than US$20 million in compensatory and punitive damages to a woman who, as a child, was allegedly abused by a member. The court found that congregation elders, following the policies of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, contributed to the abuse. The court stated that the elders as agents of the Watch Tower Society failed to disclose to other parents regarding the confession of the molester who inappropriately touched his step daughter, adding that the degree of reprehensibility was of "medium range". Based on the ratio between the compensatory and punitive damages, the court subsequently reduced the Watch Tower Society's total liability to US$10 million,[68] Lawyers for the Society appealed the ruling, calling the decision "unprecedented" and denying responsibility for abuse.[69][70] In April 2015, the appeal court concluded that the Watchtower Society was negligent in preventing the abuse and upheld the trial court's decision on compensatory damages amounting to US$2.8 million to be paid by Watchtower Society and the congregation. However, the court reversed punitive damages finding that the Watchtower Society did not have a duty to warn members of the congregation. The Watchtower society appealed again to the supreme court of California and the case was settled for an undisclosed amount during appeal.[71][72]
@godislove544
@godislove544 7 жыл бұрын
You mean Mr. Jackson can't, w/o talking to Jesus directly, realize that Jesus would want the children in the congregation and in the neighborhood protected as much as possible? Jesus said, to "..love your neighbor as yourself..." was the 2nd greatest commandment.
@Lovealwayswins1
@Lovealwayswins1 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@MackingCheese99
@MackingCheese99 2 жыл бұрын
Best thing the Australian government has done in a while.
@adelestanek8625
@adelestanek8625 7 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this information
@valhenry2154
@valhenry2154 Жыл бұрын
If a jw witnesses a robbery, or a mugging, or a car jacking, do they hesitate to help identify or even report it?
@teehee4343
@teehee4343 7 жыл бұрын
The watchtower criticises others for using portions of scripture out of context. They quote dueteronomy 19:15 to support the "two witness" rule. Indeed it does say that the word of one person cannot convict another, just because that person says it is so. But neither is an accusation proved to be true just because two people say it is so. Have the watchtower ever read the rest of this passage of scripture? It seems that they haven't! if they had they would see that just because there is only one witness the accusation was not dismissed out of hand. The passage goes on to say that the matter must be THOROUGHLY investigated. Mearly asking the accused "did you do it"? is hardly a thorough investigation! There is no dedicated legal system in the little congregations of watchtower followers and no qualified investigators. So come on elders show this humility you are always saying you have and refer it to those who really know what they are doing.
@godislove544
@godislove544 7 жыл бұрын
Why do they cling to this "two witness" stance? It comes from Deuteronomy and the Old Covenant and Law which they also teach was abolished because Jesus said he fulfilled the law and created a New Covenant with his people. It makes no sense.
@teehee4343
@teehee4343 7 жыл бұрын
Several scriptures from the New Testament are used (or rather misused) by the watchtower to try to prop up their stance on the two witness rule. It seems that they don't understand the scriptures in their historical context, or in any context. Accusations were not just dismissed they had to be thoroughly examined whether they were brought under the Jewish or Christian system. Two or more witnesses means more evidence is gathered. If the watchtower guys don't understand that your right it's insane!
@xixi3476
@xixi3476 7 жыл бұрын
Great video once again! By the way, did all of your puppies find new homes? :)
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 7 жыл бұрын
Yes they did, thanks for asking! :)
@chattycathy1053
@chattycathy1053 7 жыл бұрын
John Cedars thank you so very much for this vid! Teachers and medical professionals are required by law to report signs of child abuse...SIGNS of child abuse! Why is it then that, the religious faction is not held under the same rule? If a perpetrator confesses to his/her priest 'forgive me father for I have sinned, I have raped my four year old niece'...shouldn't it stand to reason that this should be reported by said priest as it is a serious crime? Is it left up to the priest as a conscience matter? How many 'Hail Mary's' otherwise, are assigned for a matter such as this? The problem is that within the religious community, this type of behavior is not seen as criminal but, as 'sin' (and a slight sin at that). So, what needs to be inacted into law? When a confessor of such a crime such as molestation of a minor for example, is made known, the priest should be bound by law to report. The internal court system in religious groups is obviously maintained to this day and age to save face, appear righteous and to continue to grow in wealth under the umbrella of a 501c. There should be more scrutiny placed on 501c's and warrants issued on records. There is the right to privacy BUT, yet again there are victims rights, as well. In most of these cases it involves children, children who do not have the capacity to speak up for themselves and they need an advocate. This advocate should be in the form of a law requiring ALL groups, religious or secular to report...period!
@terryannrose4582
@terryannrose4582 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always!!!!!!!!!!
@ParanormalEncyclopedia
@ParanormalEncyclopedia 6 жыл бұрын
One sad part, not the saddest kids being victimized is far worse, is how many JWs will ignore this and just write it off as "persecution".
@weobeyjesus4565
@weobeyjesus4565 5 жыл бұрын
I asked som JW’s about this and they defended their organisation saying the JW church is the best church because it responded to the allegations the best. If being unrepentant and unwilling to change rules to prevent future abuse is the best response then I guess they are the best.
@davidmoult3726
@davidmoult3726 3 жыл бұрын
You make the point that there are increasing numbers of cases against the organisation. This does make me think about prophecies that indicate religion will be banned with gods chosen organisation being targeted also. One could assume that this prophecy would be fulfilled when governments ban organised Religion in the name of ethics.
@philomelodia
@philomelodia Жыл бұрын
It’s all a lie. They’re not gods chosen organization. Just because they say it is doesn’t make it so.
@elcorrado56
@elcorrado56 2 жыл бұрын
Comment for the algorithm
@hayhayemmie
@hayhayemmie 7 жыл бұрын
What is the organization's stand on victims going to the authorities on their own?
@happygardener9491
@happygardener9491 7 жыл бұрын
hayhayemmie they would be ostracized by their community. you need to understand the power that this holds on a group that has no outside interactions.
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351
@truthseeker-jwnightmares4351 7 жыл бұрын
They will be disfellowshiped. This is not about anything but saving face for the Stepford Cult. They demand all members to be clean shaven, put on suits and ties and long dresses... why? not because it is in the bible but rather to put forward an image of being God's true servants, righteous and wholesome... The organization does not care if you are raped or abused or in any other way legally wronged. If you in any way damage the reputation of the organization even if they have raped your child; you are to shut up and take it. It's that simple. Just like Jesus said they are like whitewashed graves: clean on the outside but full of rotten death on the inside. WT Org is a vile and dangerous cult.
@happygardener9491
@happygardener9491 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@lindadobson9854
@lindadobson9854 7 жыл бұрын
Why does the sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Church never seem to go away? Why is it still a story? It has been 31 years since National Catholic Reporter, an independent Catholic publication, broke the first story, about a serial abuser in Louisiana. It has been 22 years since I reported my first article about abusive priests (out on an Indian pueblo in New Mexico, for The Washington Post). Why is the news media still covering this? Just saying!
@vincentferrer2788
@vincentferrer2788 7 жыл бұрын
Is time to Send intoJail The entire GB,
@saraabraham5486
@saraabraham5486 7 жыл бұрын
Great reporting; can't wait to see the whole tower crumble because The Most High God didn't built it.
@LuisHerrera-br7ti
@LuisHerrera-br7ti 3 жыл бұрын
This man hate that organization to death. Is up to you to believe or not.
@raverider2327
@raverider2327 2 жыл бұрын
After my research on ARC, Redress Scheme, so many sexual abuse cases related to JW around the world, Australia, UK, Netherlands, Canada, Belgium, Swiss, US, etc I can understand why he hate the organization so much.
@kennethelliott9248
@kennethelliott9248 7 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@robert55726
@robert55726 7 жыл бұрын
quiet outrageous they don't report child abuse, those poor children angers me
@saracarlson-kringle
@saracarlson-kringle 6 жыл бұрын
Oh I don't doubt that an elder got the hot end of the poker for going to the authorities...there are JWs who hold jobs where if they hear of any type of abuse like this, they HAVE TO report it to authorities or they're breaking the law. And aside from that, my mom, sister and I were visiting relatives (all various levels of 'spiritual health / sickness' according to the org.) and the father who was mentally unstable, had been drinking and took issue with his son and 'went off', ending in the father chasing the son with a running chainsaw through the orchard to the house...my mom locked the door after the son ran through it, and the father told her to open it or he'd break it down, so she did...the son locked himself in his bedroom, and the father got a knife from the kitchen and was stabbing the door jam with it telling his son to come out and take him on...mom got the phone and tried to dial 911, and the father ripped the cord out of the wall (this was the early 90s) (that right there's a federal offense)...and I quietly slipped into another bedroom with a phone, locked the door, and called 911. Meanwhile, the son's mom gets home and acts like it wasn't that big of a deal and called the elders. The cops get there and the father acts like he's a sober cooperative guy, the elders get there and yell at my mom, sister and me for calling the cops (they were 'hot under the collar'), and I'm shaking like a leaf from the inside out. That straw broke the camel's back for me regarding trusting anyone in that organization. There is so much crap and denial going on, they should register to be a governmental intelligence agency.
@myraq8634
@myraq8634 7 жыл бұрын
these guys talk about new light ......who the heck is the lightbearer ? ....exactly l rest my case
@joejames6606
@joejames6606 3 жыл бұрын
How could you be granted eternal life .after not protection a child .into the firy abyss for them
@kazpawlik9426
@kazpawlik9426 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the great taste not coming thru the screen. Have a pleasant tasting.
@robynbass9636
@robynbass9636 7 жыл бұрын
Message for Truth Seeker, I now understand you are absolutely right. I remember seeing either TV channel 9 or 7 in Sydney asking 2 JW's doing street witnessing round the corner from the inquiry about how they felt about their religion being before the inquiry. They both said they were unaware of it (or words to thTeffect)
@rednet7080
@rednet7080 7 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, thanks for the info. Hope they close down the JW and WT.
@gregsoddworld
@gregsoddworld 7 жыл бұрын
Jehovah's Witnesses take note, your god has had his day!
@andrewcook2351
@andrewcook2351 7 жыл бұрын
2 Case studies. Compared to the catholic church although one is too bad, this is nothing in comparison
@donnazukadley7300
@donnazukadley7300 7 жыл бұрын
"new light" just means "new lie"
@jamieangel3766
@jamieangel3766 5 жыл бұрын
That is succinct and accurate, love it!
@iliketrainskid7038
@iliketrainskid7038 7 жыл бұрын
Oh yes mr. Evans I've been meaning to talk to you can I have a word with you?
@robynbass9636
@robynbass9636 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry Truth Seeker, pressed send by mistake, derr. Yes both of them said they were unaware of it. Do you know the saying - liar liar pants on fire. Although, I did confront one here in my street just last week and she said she knew about the a.r.c and that they were misprepsented and the best of all, her bro. In law from Bethal here in London is helping the inquiry here. I started to ask her why then have they fought through the courts for the past couple of years trying to get out of going to the inquiry. She and her friend walked away very quickly. As you most likely know the surpreme court said - YES CINDERELLA YOU SHALL BE GOING TO THE BALL. These court cases have do doubt cost big money, all donated by the poor blind unknowing sheep.My mother told me by e mail before they cut me off and turned their backs on me, that the ARC was JUST RUBBISH off the internet making good people look bad, the secret elder book was a lie and that I was possessed by Saten. I tried to explain about the royal commission and that it had truly happened etc etc, they hung up on me. I've not been able to contact them since (that's feb 2016) despite my 102 e mails to them. I was shocked. I now also understand that loyality is the new catch phrase. I thank all you people on u tube for bringing all this information to me as a fader of 30 years. BRING ON ROUND TWO OF THE A.R.C NEXT MARCH.
@trekwars5400
@trekwars5400 3 жыл бұрын
This happened to me and 14 other victims in the US. If you want to get in touch I will tell you everything I'll give you names documentation police reports with anything you want.
@davidwise4370
@davidwise4370 2 ай бұрын
What about the mistreatment of African-Americans worldwide? Why don’t you do a commission about that?
@ellymabbutt4518
@ellymabbutt4518 7 жыл бұрын
It was Paul who established the 2 or 3 witness rule, not Jesus. If they can't change the rules of the Bible. Why is the rule mentioned in Revelation 14:3-5 not applied to the heavenly class, that they should not defile themselves with women, but remain virgins and no lie should be found in their mouths. 3And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.
@joejames6606
@joejames6606 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a pemo .now I'm resigning
@lolrip3310
@lolrip3310 5 жыл бұрын
He blamed it on Jesus wth!!
@OrthoAutist
@OrthoAutist 7 жыл бұрын
this false cult needs to be destroyed
@jasonmgavitt2357
@jasonmgavitt2357 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up in this religion and I found out about plenty of abuse as I got older.thankfully I never was on the receiving end of any of that abuse. What disturbs me is how the witnesses would talk down about a few folks I know who were abused pretty bad and ended up leaving over it and becoming gay and lesbian in their quest for a new identity.i heard very very harsh words spoke of these people and it is disgusting that a group of people who claim to have gods favor and show true love would act in such a manner.the sad part was the folks who made the comments I heard had know idea there was abuse.they simply acted as though some faithful follower left to indulged in satans world. I know one thing for sure if there is a god and he is looking for a group of humans on earth to save he is def not interested in an org that promotes child abuse
@Mirrorgirl492
@Mirrorgirl492 2 жыл бұрын
Umm, people don't "become gay".
@vincentferrer2788
@vincentferrer2788 7 жыл бұрын
AT LEAST Frozen their Properties
@Jamie.k
@Jamie.k 7 жыл бұрын
The two witness rule only worked due to God always being the second witness (I don't believe in God) however this no longer works as God can't be the second witness but they won't do anything about it cause they don't have to which shows how arrogant they're and how little care they show for they followers.
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