The Silent Hill 2 Remake Looks Shockingly Bad

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[@noducksgivenandthensome2547]

I never played silent hill 2, so can anyone explain the certainty of combat was not the point of the original?

[@JoeFromSeattle]

James was a random dude with no combat experience or fighting know-how and the combat reflected that. The shit combat made the enemies way more threatening because fighting them was virtually always disadvantageous and it made even the most basic enemies a legitimate threat to you. Turning the game into a Resident Evil clone and making James a more capable fighter inherently ruins the vibe of the original game because monsters are inherently less threatening and combat is no longer something to be feared the way a character like James should be fearing it.

[@Suprstitious]

@@JoeFromSeattle I think they caught the idea that back then people really thought the combat was shit so they decided to amp it up I guess

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Every protagonist from an actual silent Hill game have had zero combat experience and are awkward people. Combat was one of two things, a panic response to fear, or a last ditch effort

[@judgementgod]

best example in 1 and i am pretty sure 2 if you turn your flashlight off and radio so no light or sound 99% of the monsters would just ignore your existence combat only became a major thing after 4 because konami is forever chasing the RE4 dragon and their endless pimping of the IP to anyone who will give them $$$

[@stevenalvarez2924]

It's pretty easy to explain. The original team were not that experienced in certain areas of game creation but did their best in what they could. In this case they focused more on atmosphere then combat. They created the monsters to work with that weakness. The monsters were not always fast but those that were fast, were not that strong. The strong ones were not that fast, etc etc. The main "combat" of Silent Hill was to do your best to not engage in it, it was essentially a method of self defense then aggression. To show the remake of Silent Hill 2 as combat first, is like saying if Valve made a remake of Team Fortress 2 to play like Overwatch. No one who is a fan of Team Fortress would want that, even if Overwatch is a good game. So now people are seeing a horror game in a focus that wasn't the original intent of the game, making it more action focused.

[@unknownsoldier6731]

Bloober team is doomed to be eternally mid I guess

[@ZodiacEntertainment2]

The most C tier studio of all time.

[@kirak1561]

@@ZodiacEntertainment2it definitely looks better than Homecoming, downpour, Shattered memories

[@holy9781]

​@@kirak1561id hope it look better than a psp and wii game

[@kirak1561]

@@holy9781 homecoming & downpour were games on ps3

[@fernan2342]

They suck at copying other games. Calling them Mid is a compliment

[@Worm.In.Waiting]

What we want: A faithful silent hill remake. What we got: silent hill skin over a resident evil game.

[@chipkipperly3904]

A shitty resident evil game if that

[@FreaksayTWD]

Don't shit on my boy Resident Evil , most of the games are amazing.

[@Worm.In.Waiting]

@FreaksayTWD oh no do t get me wrong. I love resident evil. It's just not the silent hill game I want and love.

[@Suprstitious]

@@Worm.In.Waiting well it’s still going to have the psychological horror, you just don’t like the combat I’m guessing.

[@Worm.In.Waiting]

@Suprstitious I like this type of combat. Just not for silent hill. I'll try my best to explain, but keep in mind I'm stupid. I want silent hill to be own thing. I don't want its combat to just copy that of the resident evil remakes. From the looks of things so far, that looks exactly what the game is trying to do.

[@spykemxd]

"You're a Resident Evil, Silent Hill." said Hagrid.

[@Chad_Wick]

silent hill homecoming: come harder

[@LosMSR]

Seems like that's your trauma, lol.

[@SoycastGuy]

I don’t know how anyone was surprised. Knowing Bloober team, and knowing how bad silent hill has been for the past 20 years, this is typical. THIS is why silent hill fans have been warning people not to get hyped for this.

[@agav2345]

I stopped caring when i saw "Bloober Team" I still pray to god to this day after P.T that konami goes bankrupt and closes its doors...

[@jayg5391]

I knew this would happen. Not buying the game.

[@IDeclareWar11D2]

I can’t believe Konami gave Blooper Team this project of all the development teams 🤦‍♂️

[@CaptToilet]

Konami. That is all you needed to know.

[@IDeclareWar11D2]

@@CaptToiletright I have no faith in all the new silent hill projects as long as Konami is attached

[@LosMSR]

Because they requiere that, like Konami said a lot of studios asked for a chance, but in fact this is a budget thing just like Disney, the key here is the license, the IP, if they want to make a game, let see what happen, after all, they will destroy if the game is a flop, they will remember that the studio that crushed SH2 remake. This a big challenge, because the studio could be over after this, happen the same in the past.

[@derekb4977]

​@@CaptToilet konami should have hired enhanced edition team to get the first 4 games on new gen consoles and forget about remakes permanently.

[@RedRabbit-ZA]

It's on Konami. They can't be bothered to make games themselves anymore, so they outsource everything, but they're also cheap so they choose shitty developers.

[@ZodiacEntertainment2]

They got rid of all of their in-house developers when they tried to pivot to producing nothing but pachinko machines.

[@RusticRonnie]

@@ZodiacEntertainment2If only japan didn’t increase tax on pachinko

[@LosMSR]

Same concept of Disney, they just give a license.

[@fumomofumosarum5893]

they don't even outsource within japan they sell licenses and outsource to the west...

[@richardgrainger6786]

Called it from Day one when it was revealed bloober team was making it

[@Jedzelex]

Anyone here remembers the "Hookman" version of the OG Resident Evil 4? That was Capcom trying to ripoff what made Silent Hill unique. And what made SH unique was its take on PSYCHOLOGICAL HORROR. Its mastery of it. Fast forward to today and this developer is now making the remake of SH2 into Resident Evil. A combat focused campaign where the enemies are running towards the player to be mowed down. Just wait to see the unlockable weapons to clean up maps in record time! 😂

[@TwoGendersOnly]

Wasn't the the original RE4 footage where Leon was fighting ghosts?

[@MajorK99]

The reason the combat looks so bad in this trailer is because it isnt meant for the fans of the original game. It's meant for people who detest the original game and think they're fans. So many people I've talked to say "oh I'm not playing the original I'll wait for the remake". Like bruh its not going to be the same game. It isnt like the demon souls remake where its literally a 1 to 1 perfect recreation of the original with the original source code and animations. The combat in the original was meant to be bad so it could accompany the atmosphere, horror and tension of the game. But this most modern gamers hate nuance and it goes over their head. Which is why most people are defending this trailer and it's development. These are the same people who say they love resident evil but they've only played 7 and 8 and think anything before 7 is stupid and out dated. Its a generation of gamers that dont really care about anything that isnt modern game mechanics and modern game tropes. Its a shame man because they should have let silent hill stay dead. Instead of constantly reviving it every few years to futher abuse its corpse for money. Its interesting because pretty much all of the people defending the resident evil 3 remake had never played the original. So they literally had zero refernce and had nothing to compare it to

[@Chaso-1124]

Unfortunately you are correct. Same issue with the resident evil remakes. These games are not made for the older fans, in fact they are made to spite the fans and appeal to those who hate the originals. "Made for a modern audience" inherently means making something to exclude the classic fans

[@darkpassenger2852]

​@Chaso-1124 take your meds, not everythingbis a conspiracy 😂

[@GRGCompletionist]

Almost shocking how different DS2 looks in comparison, for a moment there it was like i was watching an indie game's QTE pop up.

[@Trid3nt861]

What we wanted = *Silent Hill 2 remake* What we are getting = *Whisper Mound*

[@FourheadWeapon]

Silent hill should never have a main character that’s “good” at fighting. Not only for the obvious metaphor of “you’re fighting your demons” and your inner demons shouldn’t be easy to defeat unless you’re a milquetoast boring person Which James is not. But also because like James, every protagonist has usually been not a combat expert. He’s a regular man who has a tainted past. Every silent hill protagonist has been a regular person who either had made mistakes that ruined their lives or have dark secrets. The closest I can think of is Murphy in terms of people who know how to fight (he was in prison) and even then his combat was awkward so much so that people day Downpour sucks because of it. I’m glad i tempered my expectations, the way they made James look, the history of the dev team, everything surrounding this game had made me think that it would be awful

[@LosMSR]

News for you, Team Silent planned the idea of a soldier fighting monster into day light, and will be a shooter, so that's the problem, that we don't understand that every person is seeing a different SH, we think all has to be the same, which that's not the case.

[@FourheadWeapon]

@@LosMSR and there’s a reason they didn’t do it. Right? This is not the gotcha you thought it was. Fuck out my mentions.

[@montgomerydeante90]

What in the trailer specifies James is an expert at combat all I seen him do is generically shoot weapons like the original and any human on earth can use any blunt object if they’re strong enough. You dudes acting like he was doing flips leg sweeps and uppercutting monsters like slow down on all the damn reaching. It sound a lot of you are just shitting on the game just to shit on it because of bloober developing it

[@battlerushiromiya205]

Hot take - I actually liked.downpour...

[@l_a_n_k_y]

Honestly I was waiting for something like this to happen… it’s Konami I’m not even shocked.

[@agav2345]

Praying they go Bankrupt which will never happen but oh well a man can dream

[@billjones9056]

The reason they released a combat trailer is because every silent hill fan demanded a combat trailer. The hate is so stupid.

[@JR_GaMeR001]

It's sad to see one of the best games of all time treated like this I've been saying that the game will be a huge disappointment since the first trailer when they showed that guilty sad facial expression of James from the beginning which just ruin the whole game before even starting and now this combat showing making the first trailer look like a masterpiece what the hell is going on with this remake 💔

[@JoesGuy]

The combat. The last thing a SH fan cares about, and it's all combat in this trailer. Not only that, but fuck, this looks like an indie dev made this in a $10 Steam game..... oh wait.....

[@benmcreynolds8581]

Idk how bloober team has this ability to make things look or feel not creepy? We need more dread, grungy, gross, nastiness. Not enough fog & claustrophobic messed up vibes. This is silent hill we are talking about. DO NOT SUGAR COAT IT. This game was made for a mature audience or people with a ability to handle very mature topics. The walking animation looks weird, James looks too clean it's weird, I hope movement animation gets better. I hope the vibe of the game really improves with how dark & atmospheric it could be. If ANY bit of "trying to dull it down for modern audiences" happens at all. People will hate your version of the game so you are better off embracing the full utter twistedness that all the fans have already realized they are okay with. It's an artistic experience that plays off of raw trauma. Treat the audience like they are adults because too many games are too afraid of doing that anymore these days and it's backfired on other people big time.

[@metalgearfan9802]

The thing that still makes 0 sense to me is...... if you're going to start remaking these games... why wouldn't you start with 1???? You should remake the games in order, and SH1 is an infinitely easier game to try to adapt a remake out of than 2. And it would be a good testing ground to see if this team really has what it takes to take on a game as prolific as SH2 instead of just going straight into it head first.

[@Chaso-1124]

Not only should you do them in order but silent hill 1 is the only one that is arguably in need of a remake as it is the most dated. The others didn't really need a remake. The fact they started with 2, the most popular one, just tells us this is a cash grab trying to cash in on a popular franchise

[@panzershreck8077]

​@Chaso-1124, i've been able to play every other silent hill on modern hardware. But holy fuck is it impossible for me to find silent hill 1 playable anywhere for me. Only game I genuinely wish a remake for, just to be able to get the chance to be able to play it without buying a console on eBay.

[@Chaso-1124]

@@panzershreck8077 If you have PC you can emulate it

[@backupschmliff1156]

Just give Silent Hill back to Japan. It's clear the Western triple A industry cannot handle subtly.

[@Pixel_Lobo]

I'm going to defend Downpour a minute and then make a bold claim. Please hear this out before an instant laugh and dismissal friend. Downpour wasn't that bad. I always liked it and defended it and oddly retrospectively it seems to be more popular now than it was in 2012 (some good times in gaming). Outside of some lame enemy designs and the really bad idea to make the story's ending based on player choices; it wasn't that bad. It was actually a pretty solid game. So now for part two of where I am going. I fear this remake is going to suffer from the same issue the 1998 Psycho remake did. Because the ending is certainly no longer a shock, I am certain they are going to probably water some content and even if they don't - I played the original in 2001 putting something verbatim in better graphics with modern gameplay is only mild appeal because it was solely the story of the original games that made them everlasting as the combat was all clunky and I don't think anyone has ever said, "My favourite game franchise is SH because of combat." So with that said... Why didn't they choose to remake the less obvious but what would have been a more probable profitable choice? Remake Downpour. They could have corrected to a more static ending giving the game a better depth, the combat was already closer to modern combat in a lot of ways, they could make the enemies scarier, include the freaky bosses they left out, not cut the PC version in final stages of dev... Think about it a minute. Downpour was a good but flawed game that people are appreciating more in hindsight. I feel like in my gut it also would have been the safer choice for a team to tackle because how touchy everyone is over the original to begin with. At least remaking something that was never so beloved can give you a chance to make a memorable and beloved version. Taking fine art and sticking it in a higher res photo copier isn't going to make it any better just worse.

[@backupschmliff1156]

@@Pixel_Lobo I agree. However, games that could've been better aren't as lucrative as masterpieces.

[@igornikolovski511]

I noticed some stuff in the original trailer, just James over reacting and the voice acting sounding pretentiously dramatic. Then the interviews were extremely sus and contradictory from Konami and Bloober, the latter saying they are almost done with the game while Konami was being vague. This proves why the game didn't had another trailer since late 2022, I wouldn't be surprised if this game gets either canceled or will be put on hold and find another dev team who might do a better job. If they release it like this, this might put the final nail of the coffin of this franchise.

[@ZodiacEntertainment2]

Silent Hill has already had more than a few "final nails," hell I think the coffin is mostly nails at this point.

[@vnkfrancis1328]

Hopefully Konami will follow next.

[@Suprstitious]

I agree with the other things in the comment, but what wrong with being over the top when it comes to voice acting? Isn’t that the point in these types of games?

[@JoeFromSeattle]

There has definitely been a lot of mixed messaging on this game, honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a direction change during development or something. Like maybe it didn't start out as an RE2make clone but then changed into that at some point.

[@igornikolovski511]

@@Suprstitious The dialogue from the original trailer felt more pretentious than over the top, it's like someone trying really hard to "act" like a person who has mental problems. In the original, every single character talks and acts weird but it feels more genuine because everyone apart from maybe Laura since she's a kid were voiced by people who didn't had that much acting experience. Team Silent were extremely specific in what they required from them and it made the dialogue feel really off putting and weird but also just enough emotional when it needed to be. It's a hard line to balance but unless you've played the first 4 games a lot, it's hard to pinpoint how to emulate that but that's just me.

[@h.p.lovecraft7286]

the "fan" base of this franchise is completely deranged at this point

[@CaptToilet]

I am mixed. when I saw the footage I thought "This doesn't look as clean as the reveal footage was". But at the same time no game ever looks as clean as reveal footage. Years playing games I have taught myself to never get overly excited for any release. I am still looking forward to it for sure, but my expectations are in check. Maybe everyone elses should be too.

[@corey2232]

But I'm not disappointed it doesn't look as good as the reveal trailer, I'm disappointed it looks like a crappier Resident Evil

[@CaptToilet]

@@corey2232 A combat trailer was certainly the wrong way to reveal the thing. I am willing to give it a chance though. If they nail the atmosphere and keep the themes untouched then this little combat snafu can be forgiven. Wait till more is revealed before we pass judgement

[@lakerfan2874]

For me, it's probably the engine used for Metal Gear Solid 5 and Metal Gear Survive. I do believe it looks good from afar, but close up like RDR2, the engine shows its age.

[@inventor4279]

No fixed camera angles, it's immediately shit

[@TheMrCHELL]

Rockstar games look better than the reveal trailers.

[@pravnav]

Most remakes and reboots are shit anyway

[@averagecult]

The first thing I thought when I saw the trailer was, "Is this a DLC for RE?"

[@Assclapicuss]

Literally looks like a Resident Evil 4 knockoff

[@gamergate2.0andbooks]

I've never played the original but still that game looks like dog shit

[@JonNewgate]

It looks like a Resident evil 4 remake mod

[@fernan2342]

Could be worse: You could be a Vampire Masquerade Bloodlines fan.

[@kataidangernoodle3637]

Fuck the internet being ok with anything.

[@RicardoFitness]

I share the same fealing that Joe, this game is so important to me and is very sad that is how silent Hill look like. It is any way we as old fans can comunicate with bloober team and their devolopers in order to claim them directly to fix this?

[@shivalah]

"This is not Resident Evil". It is now.

[@bidoof8361]

well that's what the original was made for it to copy Resident Evil success Konami even admits that so why wouldn't they do it here?

[@AwwRatz]

The moment I saw Bloober was helming the development for SH2, I knew it was bound to be a train wreck. Not only have none of their games been particularly great, they are notorious for having terrible writing and zero tact with topics about mental health and abuse. Not only does the remake look like shit, but it has the exact design focus I knew it was gonna have, which is to imitate the Resident Evil remakes, down to the over the shoulder camera. I think from an art direction it's also just...not great, and I recognize it's my bias in favor of the original, but there are things that I couldn't even argue in good faith that were just "technical limitations". There is a deliberate way that things look in that game that compliment the visual storytelling that the remake seems to miss. It's also a gripe I have with other remakes that confuse those "limitations" and completely change the game's intended visual aesthetic (e.g. MGS Delta and Demon's Souls Remake).

[@matthewhardwick8208]

Looks like it has no identity. Bloober Team a developer behind The Medium which was the exact definition of mid. They can't be put in charge of remaking one of the most iconic video games ever made. It doesn't compute how this has happened.

[@YaBoyJRock42069]

There is absolutely NO SHOT its going to be good. Everything about feels souless and loveless. Im not even considering playing it

[@AbcDefg-zt8xy]

I have my own interpretation of events of the game, probably contradicts info from the game but whatever: 1) 3 Years has passed as James said, no dead body in the trunk or on backseat. 2) James didn't receive actual letter, he received an unfinished draft of a letter 3 years late for unknown reason (James doesn't know it's a draft of course), actual letter is still in Silent Hill on Mary's bed which he reads at the end of the game, cause it's there, duh. 3) He didn't forget he killed his wife he just didn't say it out loud cause why would he 4) He's perfectly sane the entire time 5) The monsters are real and can hurt James, and Laura who "doesn't see monsters" is just a lying runt, she lies the entire game btw The trailer for remake looks kinda mid, but don't wanna bury it prematurely

[@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo]

Silent Resident 2

[@judexmars4214]

Resident Hill 2

[@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo]

@@judexmars4214 Hill Biohazard 2

[@Gabbagool86]

Bio Hill toooooooo

[@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo]

@@Gabbagool86 silent biohazard 💨💨💩

[@thebestthebestthebestthebe8828]

This might be copium, but none of bloober's past games had combat elements, and many people were concerned about silent hill 2 being turned into the walking simulators that bloober is known for. So they may have showcased the combat as a means of putting those fears to rest in a "look guys, we can do combat in our games" kind of way.

[@SlurpyPie]

I really don't get why everyone is acting surprised. This is Bloober Team for god sake they've only made walking simulators so the fact they're showing actually gameplay that looks terrible shows they were never the right fit for the remake.

[@WarPoodle-pc5wu]

It reminds me of when Homecoming came out. Clearly not a single game developer has learned why SH fans have been mad for decades. Or they are all doing this on purpose for some sick reason

[@donttreadonmegamereviews4928]

Homecoming and downpour proved Silent Hill games worked the best with fixed camera angles.

[@ratman7969]

They should have given it to Bluepoint. At least they know how to make a remake/remaster. Shadow of the colossus is an amazing example.

[@stevenbishop1782]

But they also did to Demon's Souls what Saber Interactive did to Halo Combat Evolved by missing the point of the art direction and just make things pretty just for the sake of it and they would have done the same thing as Blooper but prettier.

[@Andriej69]

You this is bad? Just you wait for anything story-related

[@Chad_Wick]

honestly i would have made something akin to the sillent hill 4 or 3 intro movie for a trailer but using in game graphics

[@corkscrew8369]

Idk why the remakes with everything. Silent Hill 2 is one of those few games that people talk about with undeniable love. They just use the name to get those fans back, knowing in the back of their mind it's a sub par product. All game companies release about 80 percent of the game, and the next 6 months/ 1 year whatever you get "patches" and "bug fixes" doomed from the start, and guaranteed they will change small things they don't need to, and change Giant story lines to alter the ultimate story of 2. I feel the same way about RE 2 3 and 4 remakes lol

[@lolo27234]

Guess blooper team is showing there real talent set

[@undevelopedcell3800]

What's the game at the start of the video?

[@Healthyjet]

I know I’m late to the party, but I feel you man… Silent Hill 2 is by far my favorite horror game ever. I had hopes that Bloober would somehow pull this off, now I know it was only copium. That gameplay trailer looked like a fan made game on Unity. Honestly, I think they should just lay the Silent Hill franchise to rest or sell the rights to a developer that actually cares about the IP.

[@luisrblanco2d]

The fact that the SH2´s first gameplay trailer is focused on combat prove that the developers don´t get it, worst thing is that the combat looks bad and undercooked.

[@inocaslu]

To be fair, I think it has more to do with Konami than Bloober itself. They even made a tweet a couple months ago saying that Konami is the one in charge of what gets shared to the public.

[@mariorusinek5037]

The Combat is a important part. And IT should be good. Good in the Sense of a Not trained normal man. Im a normal man and i can Hit with a Club...or shoot a little Pistole, James should be able to do this as well. The Animations are Not good but the fact that He can Hit and shoot is good. Hes Not a brainless Being.

[@montgomerydeante90]

What should he was trained please elaborate I say a regular guy firing a gun and swinging blunt objects stop pretending we say a solider putting down monsters like it was nothing you dudes are reachers and are just mad bloober is developing this game that’s the real fucking issue a lot of you all have and are just bandwagoning off each others bullshit 🤦🏾‍♂️ a bunch of grown man cry babies

[@SamM_Scot]

It reminds me of that time Hollywood tried to cash on those classic Asian horrors with awful western remakes from late 90s to mid 2000s :-)

[@borb7085]

While the audio may suffer, the entertainment factor was definitely increased with the second person

[@m0ejo324]

So I was listening to someone streaming the State of Play yesterday and heard Silent Hill 2 remake I was genuinely excited about it. I have never played the original, however I remember watching my dad play it and, if he could, just run away from pretty much all monsters. I also like Silent Hill more the RE so hopefully the changes stuff and makr it feel different from RE.

[@LosMSR]

This is psychological horror like Jacob's Ladder, RE is Aliens 2, why is so difficult to understand this, action is not gonna damage anything, check the movie Mouth of Madness, the plot is what created the feeling, not if you can fight or not. Seems to me that some people wanted a walker simulator, and fight the enemies with puzzles. WTF

[@m0ejo324]

@@LosMSR Well since the combat is supposed to feel like someone someone who doesn't know how to fight I got to disagree. Also don't know why you commented on my comment and not the actual video but you do you.

[@LosMSR]

@@m0ejo324 Because real video is pure clickbait, the trailer is called combat trailer, happen the same with the OG back in 2000, lol, but people forgot that suddenly.

[@m0ejo324]

@@LosMSR Well I guess I should mention in my original comment. I was in elementary school when he played it and it was after it was released.

[@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos]

Silent Hill 2 is my favorite game of all time as well and damn I feel you. My heart dropped when I saw the qte and heard the water pistol sound effects. Rough is the only word for it. I'm hoping for a delay into late 2025 so they can overhaul everything related to combat. On the other hand, though it is a remake and I think the combat was crappy in the og not because they wanted it to be but because that is how early 2000's tank controlled survival horror combat was. I think the only thing the remake can do better than the original is give it engaging combat/systems. So if they didn't redo the combat I'm not sure what the point would be

[@117N7_]

It feels like the one on PS3 i forgot the title

[@jack0f4lltrades28]

Not a big fan of Silent Hill, I grew up on Resident Evil. But I was looking forward to seeing Silent Hill come up again. I played SH 2 and didn't really enjoy it that much. I get why people love it, I think I had to play it when I was younger in order to appreciate it more. I liked part 3 better in its gameplay. But I get why people love part 2. That being said, you have my sympathy. Soon as they launched Ascension, I was worried. Now with this Combat trailer, the fact that it exists at all is a red flag. You don't need to be a SH fan to know that combat was never a focus. Seeing Janes hold guns professionally, mowing down monsters in 3rd person looking like a RE mod. And seeing some SH fans in denial defend it 😅 its rough man. Sorry for you guys, Silent Hill deserves better.

[@Soapromancer]

Does anyone know a good place to get the og silent hill games? Been meaning to give them a try.

[@Chaso-1124]

Unless you have deep pockets, use an emulator

[@stevenbishop1782]

The HD remasters on Xbox are inferior to the ps2 but still pretty good, not sure what hardware you use but it's something lol

[@jc4446]

Ps3 , silent hill 1 may still be on the store and u can get the hd collection for like $10 to play 2 and 3 but those versions are just ok …. Pc I think gog has silent hill 4 for like $6

[@Itan_Hillsan]

Play the remasters, who cares about the nit picks. Anything is better than this dogshit

[@pressedv3017]

You can get the roms from CDRomance

[@SeriouslyTechStuff]

Welcome to 2024. Buckle up buttercup

[@MikeTheGreek]

The gameplay is extremely stiff to me i dunno about y'all. Also it just doesn't feel like Silent Hill at all with that camera angle. Sure they try to approach more people but it loses that originality to it.

[@bffcst]

I liked the medium, and was optimistic....but man i told my coworker the same thing that you said. It looks like a ue 5 tech demo what a disappointment.

[@Midekai]

I don't want to encourage vertical slicing, considering the disasters it has created in the past, but I believe the combat trailer is actually an older build and tbf animations are part of what we call in game dev world as "polish" so it's usually the last in line for how good you want the game to look to people. That being said it's nice that vids like this exists, it'll definitely get the animation and art dept to really focus on the game feel and animation ;)

[@FireyPaperMario]

At this point, the ONLY Konami game we should support is Bomberman R2

[@billjones9056]

The original silent hill 2 had similar combat to Resident Evil. If you ever played both franchises back in the day, you would know this.

[@biohazarduncovered]

When i saw the latest trailer my heart dropped, you're 100% right SH2 was always sapposed to be a means to an end in terms of combat, its not about action horror it's a Psycological f!ck fest that is sapposed to make you feel constantly un easy, blooper come along and turn it into a shooting gallery 😂

[@Hellborn_666]

Silent Hill 2 is my absolute favourite game of all time and I was really hyped for the remake - but when I see this and the fact that Bloober Team is developing it,I'm really concerned. If they nail the athmosphere of the original and don't make it action based then I'm in - but I don't think so bc of the success of the Resident Evil 2+4 remake. I think they'll go this route and that would be an absolute shame and disrespect of the original game - I really wonder why they didn't consult Sweet Baby Inc. and made James a black woman (no,I'm no racist). But maybe there's still hope...

[@montgomerydeante90]

That’s all you guys really issue it isn’t because of combat or graphics or any other shit y’all whining abt its because bloober is making it and yo guys really hate that that’s the real damn reason

[@billjones9056]

3.5 min in, and I can't get anything coherent out of this.

[@jshjsh6191]

That’s what happens when games aren’t made by the original creators. Original SH2 scared people with its music and sound and darkness. I don’t know about this game maybe it can be saved

[@Blue-Spirit]

I'm a longtime SH2 fan. I like the different perspective. I'm keeping an open mind. I personally don't understand the hate. I'm just happy there trying something new for this remake. I hope this game turns out to be different then what you currently expect it to be. It sounds like this was really important to you.

[@bobbobberson5897]

Although I agree with your argument that Silent Hill shouldn’t be a combat heavy survival horror game… Silent Hill 2 is an extremely combat heavy game compared to 1

[@jazzmengardley750]

Silent hill 2 remakw was supposed to be Konamis redemption arc after wat they did to Kojima and wat we got was.....janky shooting and not even intimidating models of the creatures, god i dont even want to know wat they did to Pyramid Head🤦‍♀️ Dead Space remake did better at being a remake literally😐 Combat was bad and even me and my fiancé both looked at each other and were like 'the combat looks shit, the graphics didnt look like remake graphics maybe like ps3 graphics thats it'😂😂😂 we even wish listed it now we deleted it so hopefully they clean it up and make it Look like an actually remake but after wat we watched im having doubts. They might as well just stick to yugioh 😂😂😂

[@RemixedYoshi]

Anyone remember how good slient Hill PT was and it had no combat

[@death5talker45]

It doesn't look like Silent Hill....it looks like a Low Budget Resident Evil Rip-off

[@YoutubeITA]

it's embarassing james hitting the air instead of the monsters, I think they do need to make combat enjoyable, even if it should not be the focus it's still important and in the original you did fight a lot of mobs, enemies were everywhere.

[@erikdahlgren6656]

Watched/listened to this while going between the washing room and brotato at 3 in the morning. I was actually excited for this remake before the "combat-trailer" was revealed. Thinking "yes finally I will be able to play this masterpiece", since I never got the chanse when I was younger (religious parents blah blah blah). Now I will wait until those I trust on the internet have said what they think. Would have done that anyway, but even more so now. Elden Ring was the last game I pre-ordered since Skyrim and it will probably stay that way. I wasn't disappointed by it. However it feels like the last game that could ever get me hyped like that again after DS3 hooked me so hard to the souls-like gameplay style.

[@AloneWolf-xb1so]

Silent Hill 2 just needed proper remaster with original voice acting and higher res textures/improved models and few lighting/post processing adjustments.

[@annegrey6447]

I’m not surprised. I wasn’t expecting much after learning that a lot of the stuff from SH 2 wasn’t preserved.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

And they're giving "pyramid head a back story" ... I'm sorry what

[@annegrey6447]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 He’s a manifestation of James’ guilt & his belief that he needs to be punished. That is the backstory! 🤦 Joe is right. Blooper Team really don’t get Silent Hill.

[@LosMSR]

@@annegrey6447 So Masahiro Ito didn't get SH2 either, a member of Team Silent, gee that's a strong statement for just a fan.

[@montgomerydeante90]

How the hell do you know these things as just a fanboy? All you dudes are getting information whiny ass content creators nothing for either trailer gave me the impressing that their not preserving what made silent hill 2 great it’s a remake its updated everything isn’t going to be exactly the same stop crying abt it. Everything wasn’t the same in any of the RE remakes 🤦🏾‍♂️ you dudes are crybabies

[@allenjackson8632]

Brotato, the reason I'm not bothered about Pal World. It's VS all over again, but maybe more so.

[@breakingawesome4888]

the funniest part is silent hill fans are going to hate this and resident evil fans are going to love this lol

[@AgonizedCandle]

I'm looking forward to it. I always wanted SH2 to be over the shoulder and have no style whatsoever.

[@viewtifuljoe4412]

Not generally a fan of horror games in general, but I agree with you as James is not a soldier or someone skilled in self defense.

[@montgomerydeante90]

Where in the trailer gives you the feeling James is a fucking trained soldier type the guy it’s literal a minute of him swinging blunt objects and shooting guns same exact shit he did in the original you dudes need to stop lying and just say you don’t like it because bloober is making it 😂😂😂

[@viewtifuljoe4412]

@@montgomerydeante90 You did not read my comment. I said James is NOT as soldier.

[@lynxregions6724]

Still in development

[@BrobjeV]

What's this Crimsonland knock-off on the screen

[@user-tq8hs8qy2l]

I hope theres some jamming at least with the guns..or a number of hits with weapons...scarce ammo.. he keeps saying about it not looking finished...is because it really isnt..bet this comes out a lot better than you all think it will..this was a trailer for some feedback..i honestly think they can tweak the combat to be frustrating any time in the next year..having a gun jam.unexpectedly or a melee breaking when you need it most...the toggle of a camera is welcome..

[@RusticRonnie]

It is definitely not fair to blame blooper team for this and call them hacks. This is 100% Konami’s decision. I would be shocked if we don’t hear how every single change was forced on blooper team. I can’t see a world where over the shoulder action focus was not Konami. Sometimes I hate being right, I called it that this game would such when it was announced and everyone called me a hater.

[@kuchikizack2718]

Bloober team could reject the offer from KONAMI tho

[@DogRobot101]

not surprising its Bloober Team.. they make shit games imo

[@5hane9ro]

This remake looks worse than the Re2 source fan remake using Left 4 Dead assets

[@tessademsky1156]

Using Bloober for SH2 is like hiring a kid dressed up as a doctor for Halloween to be the head of cancer research.

[@death5talker45]

The most scary games ever are The OG Silent Hill 2 and Dead Space 1 & 2

[@SuperFlashDriver]

I do think Joe in this video said it best "None of the devs at Blooper Games, ever played the originals made by Team Silent." And to add that, NONE of them ever reached out to the original developers or even look at interviews of those devs of how they made that game. To be honest, I've seen walkthroughs of SIlent Hill 1-3 for decades now, just that I didn't know 4 existed until last year. But it's so sad to see that they don't realize Silent Hill is not going for combat, but rather, it's going for psychological horror/atmosphere rather than a B-Horror Movie like Resident Evil did (which Resident Evil was trying to copy Home Sweet Home, a 1982 film released only in Japan).

[@RusticRonnie]

Some of the original members are actually helping with the game, all three team silent members are literally there. That doesn’t mean they are listening though

[@SuperFlashDriver]

@@RusticRonnie That's odd considering they approved this????.....I don't know Rustic...

[@The7irishman77]

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[@SuperFlashDriver]

@@The7irishman77 It would be great if you can link the video and see where they ended up. I just didn't know if they're working on this remake or not. I was only thinking what could have happened instead of what actually happened. But the way the game looks isn't promising from what I've heard.

[@montgomerydeante90]

How do you guys now the information you keep crying abt 😂😂😂 even with this trailer we still don’t know shit abt it all I’ve been seeing is whiny fanboys making reach comments like their in the developers room with bloober chill out

[@Gigamokin]

1:11 I do have seen other game blatantly missing the point of the original. It's called FFVII Remake, and we were made fun of for wanting a closer recreation of the original, Silent hill 2 is just ther latest example of trying to milk a brand name without understanding why it was so beloved in the first place.

[@panzershreck8077]

Could you elaborate on what you didn't like about the ff7 remake? And how it does the origibal a disservice? Surprisingly haven't heard of anyone that's criticised it. But i've also only played the remake once and stopped playing halfeaythrough, so I never got invested into the series or knew much about it

[@Gigamokin]

@@panzershreck8077 It's just not a faithful recreation, it takes liberties with the story and goes in a different direction, and it's basically a sequel where the orginal happened in a "different timneline". it's dumb, if something like that were to happen to silent hill 2 fans would revolt.

[@mandrews6282]

To be fair the reason no one has touched it is because Konami went to pachinko machines and basically let their gaming division collect dust. The last time they tried to reboot the series it went south quickly. I’m sure it’s hard finding a studio. I mean you can give it to Sony or XBox but then it’s exclusive and they take a cut. Or you find a no name developer to take it on unless some major name in the industry has time to take the project on. Bluepoint would have been fantastic if I’m being honest. Bloober isn’t ideal but I’m sure Komani sees it as less of a gamble than an unknown studio. I also think people forget what Silent Hill 2 actually is. It’s not a Resident Evil style shooter or a Dead Space. And I have a feeling people who haven’t played it and have only heard it’s legend are going to expect that and complain regardless. That being said, I’m willing to see how this one turns out. We’ve seen too little tell so far. Thing doesn’t even have a release date. I mean people were very concerned about Hogwarts coming from a no name, and that was even after we had seen gameplay. I guess we’ll know more as we get closer to release.

[@frozone-yeah]

Yeeeahh I was always a resident evil fan never a silent hill fan. But when I saw the trailer, I was initially brought in by the atmosphere of the game but as soon as it went to bootleg Resident Evil gameplay, there is no denying that it’s not good. After seeing the trailer over and over myself, I’m noticing the huge cracks in this development and if bloober team have any chance of salvaging this game, they honestly should continue to develop it and polish it as much as possible because the damage is already done to make this more combat focused. But I’d sooner play RE 3 remake than ever touch this game if this is the overall state it will be in.

[@skittletoes7260]

I honestly don’t mind them trying the resident evil route but if you’re going to so blatantly copy something then the visuals should at least be on par if not better than the original.

[@GreenHornetGamesGHG]

Konami shouldn't rush into the Remake Trend, starting with Silent Hill 2. They should've started remaking the franchise from the beginning

[@phanminh6032]

We all know how shitty Konami is. I basically have no hope for this remake from the start. It comes right after the sucess of Resident Evil. Luckily we still have Alan Wake 2 to save the day.

[@backupschmliff1156]

I was going to give Bloober Team the benefit of the doubt and they immediately disappointed me

[@jarrettcox3557]

This gave me Callisto protocol vibes and not in a good way

[@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318]

Callisto looks like a masterpiece of game design in comparison lol

[@fisherj5087]

This looks far better than CP

[@StephenShanahan-hi5uj]

The original Silent Hill 2 will always be better imo. But I think that the Remake will still be better than half of the AAA Games that have been coming out over the last few years.

[@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318]

Finally someone says it without sugarcoating it! And ill say this again, ive been saying it all day. That "reap what you sow" written on the wall is so fucking cringy and its evidence that bloober team is inserting their own heavy handed messages. It completely misses the subtlety of the original.

[@I-need-2-win]

Hell Capcom does a better job at giving the fans what they want while keeping their games faithful to the original Resident Evil titles though Re3 remake was a disappointment but yeah when i saw the Silent Hill 2 trailer I was like what the hell is this? Looks messy, almost like a fanmade made from someone. Never played the Silent Hill franchise and i was expecting the trailer to deliver because I'm kinda new to the lore, i do know about Pyramid Head and the other world but that's about it. I just hope it's remake delivers.