The Slow Death of Pirates of the Caribbean

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Jack Sparrow and the Black Pearl have been pop culture staples for over a decade, but why does Pirates of the Caribbean feel like it is on the way out? In this video I take a look at Disney and Johnny Depp's franchise and why it might be dead in the water.
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[@benwasserman8223]

Main reason: Depp got burned out playing his signature character. It should have ended with the third film when all the stories were mostly resolved

[@brunocorbella7389]

JerickHerick35 Yeah no, I definitely don’t want the franchise to end with as pathetic as Jack Sparrow was in Dead Men.

[@themoddedhero484]

JerickHerick35 nope the franchise shouldn’t end with lead being misunderstood by writers/directors who don’t under the character

[@brunocorbella7389]

Dakka Dakka Dude The way I see it, they’ve one last chance to fix things and end this new trilogy on a high note. Dead Men Tell No Tales was the only film that dealt serious damage to the reputation of the franchise as On Stranger Tides was just a completely inoffensive and irrelevant film. Ending the series now would be an absolute cinematic tragedy, considering the impact these films and Jack Sparrow have had on people worldwide.

[@acemagalor2519]

You could tell he really didn't feel it in dmtnt

[@anthonyanderson9303]

@@brunocorbella7389 yea but truth is how many people care about this franchise anymore? The first trilogy came out before the MCU and the new Star Wars films so fidnt have much competition for biggest blockbuster franchise. People have moved on.

[@poncio2632]

The last movie makes absolutely no sense: The whole thing starts because Jack trades away an invaluable artifact for some rum. The real Jack would have stolen some from a drunk guy by arguing why he should trade the rum for a bucket or something

[@lordtrigon1733]

I believe that was supposed to represent him finally giving up on getting the Black Pearl back/his "rock bottom" moment.

[@genghischan9483]

arguing with a drunk guy doesnt seem like what jack would do

[@MewMewSun]

@@genghischan9483 It isn't. Because he IS the drunk guy arguing for more rum!

[@djmace9029]

“No I don’t want you to give me that bottle of rum, you want you to give me that bottle of rum in return for this bucket of churned flatfish, because by having this bucket of churned up flatfish you become more wealthy by having a more valuable item being in your possession... and all I am asking for is what’s left in that full bottle of rum, savvy”

[@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719]

@@djmace9029 yes. This is just how I imagine this taking place.

[@Mpiewizard]

I watched Dead Man’s Chest recently and I’m absolutely floored by how good Davy Jones still looks. That movie is literally 15 years old this year and he still looks real. How???

[@mrsfahrenheit]

right? If you compare that to Badman vs Superman aka the worst film I’ve watched so far😂

[@lancelot0274]

It's amazing what can be done with those motion capture points they put all over actors faces

[@sirornstein]

I know everytime I watch it I remember a few hours later that that was CGI and not some squid dude!

[@ariellelyons]

if you really want your mind to be blown, revenge of the sith came out the year before dead man’s chest

[@renanleandro5914]

@@ariellelyons lord of the rings came 4 years before rots

[@boss.mimoto6570]

Don’t forget that the main character in the trilogy isn’t Jack, it’s Will and Elizabeth. The main story ends with the trilogy.

[@erynlasgalen1949]

No, it left us with the impression that the hero doesn't win, which I suppose is a message about being punished for getting involved with pirates, but it's depressing for a Disney movie.

[@navylaks2]

Honestly who ever cared about those 2? or the lack of acting the actors brought to the table?. This franchise was only salvaged because of Johnny Depp

[@navylaks2]

@@erynlasgalen1949 This franchise had some great special effects but what it did not have was any story what so ever.

[@patricklloyd1797]

In the first movie yes, Jack was a side character with those two being the main characters. After the first movie Jack Sparrow was definitely the main character though, even if the story was more about those two

[@wyattr.9995]

@@navylaks2 yeah Will is one of my favorite movie characters of all time. He is supposed to be the Luke Skywalker of the franchise where Jack is supposed to be Han

[@devindykstra]

I just rewatched the holy trilogy and man are those some fantastic movies.

[@delix787]

I love 1-3 ☠️☠️☠️

[@edthestraightedge8783]

Star Wars? I know, the first three are still the best!

[@K_J_Coleman_Composer]

Those are the only ones I've rewatched. The other ones can sit gathering dust for all I care

[@astralflick]

OG Star Wars?

[@Dan-tr5kw]

4 and 5 should not be considered cannon

[@jrapattii9941]

imo it was the perfect trilogy... until it wasnt a trilogy 🙄

[@OldManJenkins69]

Right?? The trilogy was great then they come out with the 4th movie, then a 5th...haha

[@bleh6339]

Exactly

[@garygray3834]

Just like the Indiana Jones film

[@astralflick]

Gary Gray I honestly think I’d rather have KOTCS than the last two POTC

[@Dan-tr5kw]

Astral Flick I honestly think KOTCS and the last two POTC movies should not be considered cannon and should be forgotten from history lol

[@TotallyNotElPresidente]

What made the first pirates film so good: Jack was a supporting character, not the main one (even if he steals the show).

[@cameodamaneo]

I agree and I feel like him "stealing the show" is kinda the point. You can't really steal the show if it's already yours to begin with.

[@navylaks2]

When were these films ever any good ? No Johnny Depp's performance is the only saving grace that's why the 4th film is the best

[@cameodamaneo]

@@navylaks2 That's a funny troll.

[@navylaks2]

@@cameodamaneo Not a troll just simple truth

[@julielove4evr]

@@navylaks2 Mhm. And I'm guessing next you're going to tell me that Rise of Skywalker is the best Star Wars film? And Age of Ultron is the best Avengers?

[@TheRedRobin96]

Dead men tell no tales felt more like a weird fan-fiction than an actual sequel.

[@erynlasgalen1949]

Heh, I actually wrote a better one to break Will's curse. Jack came off as a right hero.

[@Tom-ds2bx]

Salazar was such a great villain and was completely wasted in my opinion. And the script for Jack was harrowingly hollow. If they’re gonna make another, it needs to be a redemption for jack of sorts, if possible

[@TeylaDex]

also it ruined jacks back story? the strongly hinted at and explicitly told in a (until then) canon book

[@kristianstepancic3440]

Also note that only in the first movie, Jack actually did cool smart stuff on purpose. In all of the later movies cool stuff just happened around him, or he did them by accident.

[@faz6877]

Exactly. I remember sitting in the theatre watching DMC and could tell something was off. And it wasn't just Jack, everything was happening because convenient for the script.

[@Damon242]

He still had some of that in Dead Man’s Chest but it continued to diminish with each subsequent film

[@ZeSgtSchultz]

Actually the start of the 4th has a bit of old smart jack. But you're right

[@borek92]

That's true. They crippled the man. Yes he was funny and bizarre, but he still knew what to do,how and when to do it. In later films they made him a retard just to buff up these comedic relief moments. Things would conveniently happen around him with him being pleasantly surprised. It's kind of sad really.

[@ridwana4037]

So you guys really gonna forget about "Up is down", huh? Where He's the only one that solved the riddle?

[@ms.gabrieladelcarmenprecia6425]

Instead of sequels, or new characters, I would prefer a prequel. Jack as a young man. Barbossa becoming a pirate.

[@spectrum7206]

A prequel leading up to him being marooned would be cool

[@CharllotteKatakuri]

Yes

[@heikimati653]

Theres a book series about that if you are interested.

[@CharllotteKatakuri]

@@heikimati653 really

[@heikimati653]

@@CharllotteKatakuri Yhea they are called Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack Sparrow and they are about his life before the first movie and are also canon.

[@banhbaothit1629]

Hector Barbossa best character of the franchise for me. Also i love the Black Pearl. its like the millenium falcon of pirates of the caribbean

[@ot7biasedmashups]

Barbossa is so iconic! I really love his character

[@peterschreuder2600]

Verbinski’s movies are canon to me. The other 2 are just bad fanfiction.

[@Reggie2000]

I really liked number 4. It was fun and playful at times, and still had compelling conflict and an easy to digest story. I was even thinking about watching it again just a few days ago. Number 5 was so forgettable, that even though I'm 95% sure that I have to have seen it, maybe even in the theater, I remember nothing. Absolutely nothing. The definition of forgettable.

[@Sigismund697]

4 was great tho, enjoyed it much more than 2, 3 and definitely 5

[@ProfessorGunk]

I'd say the same, tho the forth one felt more like a nice dedicated fanfic, cause I just love the Jack and Barbossa stuff in it

[@Reggie2000]

@@ProfessorGunk Yea, I get that. The first 3 are a trilogy. The 5th is a reboot with roots to the first 3. The 4th one is like a side adventure unto itself. It's like a fan of the Star Trek characters saying, what if the STTNG crew went after the fountain of youth in a film. Oh that's right, they did! Lol 🤣

[@DainHunter]

The 5th also have so many things that just doesnt make any sense and was bad written imo. Badass captain, badass ship but a flawed story sadly :(

[@Emike-nc9ew]

hey but at least the ride is great.

[@IcyDiamond]

Emike misterio 1701 I once thought the ride was based on the movie

[@MarkFilipAnthony]

@@IcyDiamond not the original, but the "new" ride with additons of Jack and Barbossa etc etc, with new animiatronics is deffinently based on the movies, so ur not totally wrong there :P

[@Psychoma99]

It's so awesome, I will always remember my first experience at Disneyland and that ride in particular

[@legoghostyoda]

The Fat Piranha Plant it is, i just absolutely despise the new additions with jack and stuff. ruins the whole charm of original disney.

[@kyllepoiencot4361]

It was until they had to change it and censor it. We still want the redhead!

[@joannedenney5608]

"The world used to be a bigger place." "The world's still the same. There's just, less in it". This video reminds me of that conversation between Jack and Barbossa.

[@iansin7722]

Joanne Denney best dialogue in the franchise, along with “People aren’t cargo mate”

[@techinsider366]

I think it was between jacl and gibbs

[@connorendres4544]

i dont get it

[@skywalker2676]

Tech. Tube no it was between jack and barbossa when they visit the kraken on the island

[@user-cv3dr4kt7j]

@@connorendres4544 The good people are dying and useless people are being born more.

[@maxzart6221]

1-3: cinematic gold 4: eh 5: a sin against mankind

[@themadclown4077]

I switch 4 and 5. To me 5 was at least a bit better.

[@cress_albane]

@@themadclown4077 thats what I was gonna say. Totally agree

[@onigiri2032]

4 and 5 were okay no where near as good as 1-3

[@theswedishdude1]

100% 4 was meh but 5 my god, they destroyed Jack's character so badly.

[@adsfornothing3146]

yeah

[@kkelseym]

"On Stranger Tide was the most expensive film until Endgame" is a sentence that shouldn't exist. They really just threw money at an extremely forgettable and disappointing film.

[@ot7biasedmashups]

That movie is honestly a big part of my childhood but... The only thing I can think of is mermaids. That's it.

[@BlueTyphoon2017]

Idk, I thought it was a good movie, but, I definitely think that he does make a point if it seeming like a side story.

[@rodriguezjavier6726]

@@ot7biasedmashups lol, that speaks a lot XD

[@matteussilvestre8583]

Not every franchise needs to last forever. I'd be fine if the 3rd movie was also the last, at least that would end the series on a high note. Hell, given how easily they dropped some other characters like Elizabeth and Will even though Jack is at his best as a supportive one, it'd probably be for the best.

[@bluesbest1]

The film seems to follow the subject matter. For a film, they were on top of the world, sailing circles around the established order, and simply having fun through the near-death experience. Then the State started to really crack down, spreading dissension in the ranks, followed by something of a last Hurrah where everyone involved gets together one last time to spit in the Order's face before fading, fracturing, and retiring. The following two movies seem like a couple of retired old men trying, and somewhat succeeding, to keep ahold of the good old days, even as the world evolves around them, forcing them to either find new ways or fade into obsoletion. That bit about 4 and 5 makes Barbossa and Jack sound like boomers.

[@zestysven7487]

i dont think any franchise should last forever....

[@mr-tkuilboer888]

It's not technically dying. At the theme parks the POTC attractions are still very well visited. When it comes to movies they are still planning to have multiple POTC movies in the same timeline one is with a female as leading role wich is where the ''barbosa daughter's adventures begins'' and one POTC movie with Johnny Depp as a leading role these movies are gonna be in the same timeline off eachother and the follow up is gonna cross them over in one movie

[@EddieFreak]

I agree it should’ve ended at the third. But they better make a really good movie for the sixth and then call it a day on pirates

[@abrahajil4176]

007 is probably the only movie franchise that is destined to last forever. Ones like Dollars Triology or Harry Potter end when it needs to be, and others like Star Wars and Pirates force new movies and discredit themselves

[@jknetwork6211]

If pirates of the Caribbean had a slow death I can’t imagine what terminator had.

[@clickycal]

Terminator and alien are literal shells of themselves.

[@rorcknar]

@@clickycal and Predator

[@returnedtomonkey8886]

Predator, Terminator and Alien are all jokes now. No one even bothered to try to revive Robocop after that kidfriendly shit from 2014.

[@darthXreven]

it simply will not die until it is dead......and therein lies the problem, it won't die until it's dead but keeps living trying to kill itself but will not die until it's dead........

[@Skeazzi]

A "terminal" disease

[@kazonikz]

Great video man, I only disagree with Jack Sparrow being the only memorable character, bc you can ask anyone who watched the movies and they will remember Davy Jones for example

[@liv97497]

Yes. And I'd argue the monkey is pretty memorable too, although Barbosa remains a personal favorite

[@lancelot0274]

Yeah how is Barbossa not memorable?

[@adsfornothing3146]

Barbossa?

[@thegreenwizard688]

Is this comment sarcastic or you just misspelled Davy jones?

[@michielp1922]

i remember most characters although maybe that is because i've watched the original trilogy quite a lot

[@illmindent1052]

The Ending Battle in The 3rd Film Was Amazing

[@2adamast]

The ending battle sucked, 100 cgi ships make a cgi battle. Just like the LotR cavalry is a total joke

[@illmindent1052]

@@2adamast I feel you on that the Animation is a hit a miss for me even tho I myself did Enjoy I wish they went a more traditional hand drawn animation

[@dildobaggins2759]

Dead mans chest was more memorable with davy jones and jack sparrow fighting in the storm tbf

[@thelonesculler]

@@dildobaggins2759 That was in At World's End

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

@@2adamast Uh oh, you know these are real horses on LOTR right?

[@lpj2216]

How sad it is that this series is the only thing keeping the Pirate genre on film alive??

[@slowmoe1686]

I mean, better than what Westerns have. Westerns had like two good films this decade, Rango and Django Unchained, and by 'this decade' I mean 8 years ago so not that much farther away than PotC3.

[@lpj2216]

@@slowmoe1686 Westerns on recent years at least had movies, good ones (rango, django, hell or high water, bone tomahwk), decent ones (hateful eight), or even bad (tommy gun, the kid, jonah hex), but at least there is variety and there is still movies here and there, not depengin on a specific director or series to survive. Pirates movies dont have that luck anymore, and if happens, it doesnt go too well at the box office (like Pan). I known its kinda of niche genre (even more than westerns), but it will be nice to see resurgence and a pirate movie that isnt pirate of the caribean

[@elizabethashley42]

@@lpj2216 At least we got a solid four seasons of Black Sails, though.

[@philipreid2542]

@@lpj2216 hostiles is another great western if you haven't seen that. Then you also have your films such as Logan which are somewhat westernesque

[@minecraftpro110]

Yeah I'd like to see more pirate movies, also more realistic ones could be cool

[@somepiesheep4426]

Can we just talk about how great norrington was in these movies

[@IsaacQuick]

i love his arc throughout it all

[@arnimellner3357]

i actually love norrington

[@lordtrigon1733]

Definitely the most underrated character in the original three.

[@Strider__Gaming]

YES, finally someone who understand James Norringhton is the best character from the movies.

[@cookieninja_1396]

Yea best character ever

[@TomMcMorrow]

To me, the series died at the 4th movie. I remember watching the third film and thinking "WOW what a satisfying ending to the trilogy!". Then they made a fourth one and I just went "But why?"

[@forestfilms472]

Disney: We've go to have....Money.

[@ianandersen265]

The failure of the 4th movie ruined Pirates of the Caribbean online.

[@BloodnightStudios]

Same

[@dildobaggins2759]

Disney always do it anything thats good they kill it by making more of it, even when its finished on a good note...

[@noobmasterruben5167]

To quote Ryan George: we’re gonna keep making Pirates movies if they keep making money Producer: i like how you money

[@jonash3406]

"But the next movie not having Jack Sparrow will fix everything" - no one, ever

[@ot7biasedmashups]

Ikr

[@g.d.graham2446]

Indeed

[@tebohosefatsa6627]

😂😂😂

[@c17sam90]

They lost Gore who understood that Sparrow can’t be the lead character. When they made Sparrow more central the plots don’t work.

[@walker1984]

Are you sure Disney didn't push that Jack had to be the central character in the movie? You notice that they haven't hired any directors that have the power to say no like a Steven Spielberg?

[@c17sam90]

@@walker1984 they hired Spielberg for War Horse

[@c17sam90]

@Hot Rod the person simply said Disney doesn’t hire directors who didn’t have the power to say no. Also pirates 5 kind of pushed Jack back to a supporting role more like the first film.

[@JONESANDDUDDING]

Gore didn't fully understand either - he made the same mistake in 2 and 3. It was only in the first film that he wasn't the lead character.

[@c17sam90]

@@JONESANDDUDDING I don’t know Will and Elizabeth’s story was still the heart of those 2 films I feel. At least Jack was just part of a more ensemble cast rather than the lead character.

[@RastaGamesful]

We need the end the Jack Sparrow story. Without it, the Pirates won't be the same Pirates they were then. The first movie is still my favorite adventure movie that I'm happy to rewatch it and it's a shame that Disney does this to the franchise. The 5-th part was not bad, but it had a lot of problems despite the good cast and the ideas.

[@chaoxfhy2552]

Lambert! Wheres Eskel? He With Geralt?

[@themoddedhero484]

Go Time Now also how he got his compass was explained in dead man’s chest & here they retcon it, also doesn’t anyone notice the fundamental flaw of jack’s character in the 5th movie & how he was ruined?

[@bluesbest1]

@@themoddedhero484 Pirates 5 felt like a fever dream, or an AU or something. They turned Will into Davy Jones, they butchered Jack's backstory, and had so many contradictions that it almost felt nonsensical. Or at least more so than its predecessors.

[@EddieFreak]

Dadycoool will literally is the next Davy Jones doe lmfao did you not watch the third one? They did retcon the compass thing which was absolutely stupid

[@prateekbagrecha7012]

Shift to OnePiece, it will give you more hopes for pirates.

[@randyjax09]

I lost all faith in these movies after “Dead Men Tell No Tales”. It’s like the screenwriters didn’t even bother watching the previous films before making it.

[@chideraalexanderdex9876]

Exactly.... They even chose to forget how jack actually got his compass, the story we had for four films was swept under. It was some magical compass his former captain gave to him... No explanation or addressing the first story with Calypso, nope. Just straight up changed it, no expectations

[@randyjax09]

@@chideraalexanderdex9876 Exactly! The retcon situation with the compass ruined the whole movie for me. I was like, “Who the hell wrote this?” It nearly made me walk out of the theater because I was already annoyed with Will growing barnacles on his face. Like hellooo that’s not supposed to be happening anymore! Honestly, the random creepy wedding scene beneath the whale skeleton is the epitome of that entire train-wreck of a movie.

[@chideraalexanderdex9876]

@@randyjax09 it shows the filmmakers didn't give a damn about the movies that came before

[@erynlasgalen1949]

@@chideraalexanderdex9876 Was it the same two scriptwriters even? The fifth movie msy have been so-so, but it allows me to watch the first three and enjoy them again.

[@theswedishdude1]

>they didn't watch the previous films that is exactly what i was thinking when i saw that movie, there were so many retcons, so many things that didn't make sense, it really did feel like they knew nothing about the previous movies. me having just watched the trilogy before that only made it more clear.

[@ukuviispert9599]

"Dead man's chest" and "At world's end" were Infinity war and EndGame before infinity war and endgame

[@brettdavidson3866]

Wrong At worlds end Is Awful and Bloated

[@pedroivog.dossantos7432]

Although not my favorite I actually liked Pirates 4 and remember being really excited when Barbosa took control of the "Queen Anne's revenge". I really wanted to see the Pearl, Flying Dutch and Queen Anne's battling together. Then we got Pirates 5 and it was just sad to me.

[@jasten]

I completely agree. It has much story and I got very excited that Barbossa can now stop wanting Jack's ship to himself.

[@spectrum7206]

Would’ve been great to have the 3 iconic ships of the series to have to come together in the 5th movie to defeat something or whatever then end with them winning but most of the main characters dying. That would be a great end and would have needed no movies after.

[@joaofigueiredo3048]

Yeah it's sad. We had so many plot points that could've made a great sequel... I blame Disney for letting the franchise on the wrong people's hands. And with Dead Men Tell No Tales being such a disappointment, I still feel the need of another sequel to end the franchise honorably

[@BugsyFoga]

Probably because Disney has been milking it for years .

[@szczypior2714]

That's something you'll be able to say about Star Wars in a few more years

[@szczypior2714]

@Cyrese Parrish The worst thing is that them milking a franchise could be beneficial for both them and the fans But they handle it so horribly it's laughable (and frustrating for the fans)

[@alexandersmith7061]

Hi, I’m captain obvious

[@szczypior2714]

@Morris What you just said is so dumb. Because I consume I can't judge? How would that work? I judge *because* I consume. Because I'm the one Disney is supposed to be selling it's stuff to, so it should respect my opinion. Your reasoning is nonsense

[@bog-art177]

drawing johnny Depp as the Joker kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXmtZ2upYplmhLM

[@MrBuckeyes93]

Captain Barbossa will always be my favorite character in this franchise. Him coming back at the end of Dead Man's Chest was so hype for me.

[@isaacsmith6878]

True that me and my sister lost our shit in the theater and almost lost our minds in line for At Worlds End

[@jonahfalcon1970]

You neglected to say Jack Sparrow earned Depp an Oscar nomination.

[@chickrepelant]

the evolution of James Norrington was a fun ride, btw. great points, i totally forgot that i watched POTC 5.

[@AceLM92]

Why does this comment not have more likes? I wish they kept in the deleted scene in Pirates 2 of Norrington delivering the heart and being given back his rank and then promoted to admiral. Something about his reaction just makes the scene brilliant

[@sstorey79]

I feel like they should have taken Pirates in the Mad Max direction. Instead of the story being about sparrow, he enters the situation of other characters and is more of a helper/observer. That’s the role he had in the first film, and that’s why it worked so well

[@shaigarrick3794]

exactly! the first movie always reminded me of Yojimbo, but for pirates. Jack taking the backseat to the town or island's problems would be perfect for a franchise setup

[@ForeverFashionGirl21]

Will and Elizabeth were the reasons that I watched Pirates. I loved them and their story. You are so correct- Disney tries to make the lovable side character the main one- but that is where they work best, supporting the main plot and protagonists. I really hate how they dropped Will and Elizabeth almost completely. It just sucks when the first film is great because it was contained to the studios, meaning no influence from the audience. Then they see everyone likes or hates something and try to force it too much in the second film thus ruining it in some way. The wedding scene between Will and Elizabeth will always be legendary.

[@kingali1606]

No Johnny Depp, no Pirates Of The Caribbean

[@lordofweed]

of they bring out a new pirates of the caribbean without johnny depp, im out :(

[@danskyl7279]

No Jack Sparrow, No Davy Jones, No William Turner, No Elizabeth, No Barbossa, No Gibbs ,No Pintel, No Ragetti, No Calypso, No Norrington, No Black Pearl, No Flying Dutchman, No Kraken, No seaturtle? = Death of Pirates of the Carribean

[@shaigarrick3794]

that sounds very defeatist. as long as the writers who are handpicked are passionate, and the studio is made aware of what made the first movie a delight, you could definitely restart the franchise without the original cast

[@pratyush.l_]

Hm

[@awesomeatronik]

@@shaigarrick3794 tell that to star wars

[@HunterCihal]

First movie is literally up there with A New Hope in how perfect it is, but there was a huge decline of quality after the 3rd film.

[@mikespearwood3914]

Yep, I saw it at the cinema and thought it was a perfect movie. Never bothered watching any of the sequels, albeit for like half an hour flicking over to the channel on TV. They seem ok, but nothing special.

[@Xscape128]

Different writers, plus the acting and visuals took a nose dive after the 3rd movie. 4th movie especially looked like a TV show

[@abdullayaser700]

Don't compare it with the nerd star was

[@abdullayaser700]

Pls don't compare it

[@user-oq5ox1tq3g]

I'd say after the second movie, the 3rd was a convoluted mess but pretty to look at, I hated Will and Elizabeth in it and Jack was too much a joke character in that also

[@Kmadden2004]

I feel it really comes down to the fact that, while Johnny Depp may be the headline name on all the posters, Jack Sparrow wasn't actually the main character in the first movie, he was more a supporting character to help facilitate the actual story of Will and Elizabeth, and supporting characters really have more leeway in what you can do with them. He was Han Solo, the charismatic, enigmatic and dangerous rogue whose main purpose within the narrative is to provide transport and help the vanilla, clean-cut working-lad protagonist rescue the princess/governor's daughter from mortal peril. But making him the main focus of the franchise robbed him of his mystique, made him too cuddly and friendly to be dangerous, and overexposed him to the point where his charisma just became irksome. And one of the most charming things about the character in the first movie, that he was a bit of an opportunistic doofus who would fail upwards rather than succeed most of the time (kind of like Indiana Jones, now I think about it), was later retconned in the sequels to turn him into some kind of Rube Goldberg of heist capers, always thinking five steps ahead of everyone and calculating every escape attempt with clockwork efficiency. This is kind of exacerbated by the general feeling that, with the third Pirates movie, the story was kind of done, there just wasn't really anywhere else you could take these characters. Perhaps it would have been better if the fourth film had just been a clean reboot, with a completely new cast (and perhaps a cameo from Sparrow as the new King of the Pirates, or something)? Oh well, at least Disney learnt from their mistakes here and didn't go on to build an entire spin-off movie that was destined to flounder around a Han Solo type of character...

[@asmahasmalaria8596]

I disagree. Jack Sparrow was always a master tactician, even in the first one. Though I agree that he was kind of worn-out in On Stranger Tides and he wasn't even trying in Johnny Is Broke, oh no, what was the fifth called again? Oh yeah it was "Mindless Cashgrab". No that wasn't it. My bad.

[@acemagalor2519]

Yeah I feel like a full on reboot after the 3rd one would have made more sense

[@anthonyanderson9303]

Everything you said is the exact same reason the Terminatior franchise started going downhill. He wasn't the main character in the first two films, but by Rise of the machines he was.

[@savvytactics7740]

Lots of people are saying he wasn't the main character in the first movie and I don't understand that at all. I agree the screen time was pretty well split but he was clearly the star of the show. The problem with the last movie was just that they made his character a drunk idiot. The only smart thing he did in the movie was in the flashback of him trapping Salazar in the cave.

[@user-sg5ny3wc8t]

Honestly, Jack has nothing to do with Han Solo. The lovable trio of main heroes (Luke, Leia, and Han) was not invented by Star Wars. It's a very basic story device coming from very old ages. I just don't like the comparison, personally.

[@DragonLordNight]

Will not being in stranger tides makes sense to me. He did become the flying dutchman captain in the third one, and he was occupied because of the accompanying job.

[@ey7290]

The first 3 films are almost flawless, 4 was decent but could tell it wasnt written by Verbinski and everything after that was a mistake

[@stanley13579]

Jack Sparrow was never the protagonist, but he is definitely the series' "icon". He's like Arnold Schwarzenegger's T-800... who was never the main character, but is the series' main draw. There's a reason Arnold isn't absent from any of the films (even Salvation couldn't resist adding a CG Arnold, because they bloody know who the star is). The same goes for Pirates - Depp hoisted those films on his shoulders. A new pirates movie can have whatever characters, and whomever young adult will work for scale, but at the end of the day, it's Depp's series. No Jack Sparrow...no interest. Wanna recast Depp? Good fucking luck with that, fellows.

[@masonpyle5929]

Captain Jack Sparrow in Curse of the Black Pearl was a comic relief and anti-hero. Will and Elizabeth were the protagonist.

[@masonpyle5929]

@@adamromanak7605 Hey there are movie franchises that include side characters in every film. Just look at R2-D2 and C-3PO they appear in all nine Star Wars films and they are side characters. Will and Elizabeth’s story ended in At World’s End we figured that Will and Elizabeth had a son in the post credits scene of At World’s End. So in a way On Stranger Tides and Dead Men Tell no tales were two hour epilogues.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Trilogies should stay as trilogies. They milked it too much, you can see the same exact thing happen to games. Just look at Gears of War and Halo.

[@titanium_rocket1505]

I think Halo 4 was pretty good

[@featherlain2012]

You're EVERYWHERE

[@tsdobbi]

Assassins Creed. I haven't played one since AC3.

[@Inkognito-ts4to]

Jesus Christ your here

[@Inkognito-ts4to]

@@tsdobbi AC3 is the worse one

[@temtem9255]

The villian of potc 5 in a nutshell:" we need a villain but dont have one, so we just blendered barbossa and davy jones"

[@kenta756]

I feel like Jack Sparrow is the character that keeps me coming back. The plot of Dead Men Tell No Tales was predictable and so was On Stranger Tides. Had they done a prequel for Jack's story *Chef Kiss* even if Depp wasn't playing him.

[@jbcatz5]

We don’t need a prequel for all these type of characters. Characters like Jack Sparrow, Captain Jack Sparrow, work well when their pasts have a sense of mystery.

[@just_delightful]

Pirates 3 has aged really really well - The ending effects are really amazing compared to what we get today in some cases. The last pirates movie CGI just was not as believable - The wooden woman coming to life on the front of Salazar's ship was really dumb and unrealistic. The cliche writing of having to force someone to be someone's child is so effing played out-BAD WRITING.

[@rhettgedies7467]

I think 3-5 is a mixture of bloated crap and/or forgettable.

[@tomerfeller9993]

@BananaBoat Behemoth you should simply listen to the pirates of the "Caribbean: at world's end extended score", to this day i believe hans zimmer should have been nominated if not given the oscars, the fact it's a standard blockbuster hollywood movie doesn't change the fact he should have been noticed and really not snubbed as he got (everyone who says he wasn't, this guy should have got wayyyy moreee nominations)

[@faz6877]

@@rhettgedies7467 I think Worlds End is the definition of bloated. I enjoyed the fist film. I have a hard time sitting through the rest of them. The 2nd had some high's and lows, but after that it's rough waters.

[@Xscape128]

@BananaBoat Behemoth the last 45 minutes was what saved the 3rd movie for me

[@Damon242]

Honestly, the quality of effects in the original pirates trilogy vs 4 and 5 is like Jurassic Park vs Jurassic World I still remember watching the production videos for Dead Man’s Chest and how they used the texture of a polystyrene cup as a model for Davy Jones’ skin - that’s how much care they took and the results to this day are still some of the best CG work ever committed to film

[@grfrjiglstan]

The franchise inextricably tied itself to Johnny Depp. And while Depp was up, that was just fine. But when Depp went down...well, let's just say the ship went down with its captain.

[@DeeonleeCobb373]

I loved At World's End. It was over the top yeah, but it was also a climax to a trilogy. I wouldn't have it any other way.

[@brettdavidson3866]

I would I was so bored watching it and the plot is awful Best character was Barbossa

[@virtualwarp]

The original trilogy will never be forgotten. Though, the ones after that, I could've easily done without.

[@russelloats]

Forgot to mention Davy Jones and his crew dude! One of the greatest villains of all time and hard to replace. Though now that you mention it. I think it wouldn't been nice to see a new Pirates story with all new characters, with Sparrow occasionally showing up.

[@jvsgarage]

Nah new charechters i guess but jack havin bo screen time is stupid

[@brendanharan4501]

Honestly “Dead Mans chest” is my favorite of the Pirates movies

[@xixingpooh]

Mine too

[@spectrum7206]

Same

[@az6077]

the last of the og trilogy hit the hardest though.

[@MrMrjack18]

Finally someone said it ! Dead Man's chest is the best !!!

[@blurryrecords]

I still think the end of deadman’s chest is an awesome ending. The first time I watched it I couldn’t believe it...

[@captainirony]

The fight at the center of the Maelstrom is one of the best choreographed and interesting fight scenes in all of cinema

[@toganium4175]

Just put the franchise out of its misery! There's no Pirates franchise without Johnny Depp!

[@gabsomniac9607]

Jack Sparrow: I agree with you mate, you see: If there is no Johny Depp, there is no Jack Sparrow, and if there is no Jack Sparrow, there is no Pirates franchise, and if there is no Pirate franchise, there is no Johny Depp, and if there is no Johny Depp, there is no Jack Sparrow, and if there is no Jack Sparrow, there is no rum, and if there is no rum, there is no Jack Sparrow. And it goes to the same way in the other way. Now the question is, where's the rum's gone to "ungone" myself.

[@ruccireacts]

Exactly

[@bluecorp8557]

Gabsomniac Not funny. Didn’t laugh.

[@gabsomniac9607]

@@bluecorp8557 🥃

[@roshinid3423]

@@gabsomniac9607 savvy?

[@rohitkashyap501]

dead mans chest is actually my favorite pirates movie

[@epsilon1372]

I’d argue it does the best at being both solid as well as being ambitious

[@returnofthedoggo7994]

sAME

[@MrMrjack18]

I Know right ?? Dead Man's chest is by far the best Pirates movie !!!

[@user-oq5ox1tq3g]

I think Curse of the Black Pearl is the best one, the most fun one and all characters were interesting, Jack was more cool and not the joke character that he became

[@alltheinnocence]

The first two are definitely my favorite. 3 is where I felt it started to feel a little off, but not horribly. I only saw 4 once, but remembered liking it fine. 5 though? I did not care for at all. I was bored and uninterested the whole time, and it felt like everyone involved was too.

[@Headstrong9128]

It was similar to me, I didn't enjoy At World's End the same way I did the first 2 when it got released. But recently I watched it again and love it as much as the other 2.

[@mrgreen027]

You have to look at 3 as a continuation of 2. A story split into 2 parts.

[@dinsism]

Curse of the Black Pearl- amazing adventure film all around Dead Man's Chest: Fun time, amazing set pieces At World's End: Great spectacle and amazing third act battle On Stranger Tides: A fun spin off adventure with Jack Dead Men Tell No Tales: Flawed, but entertaining film

[@maximus2963]

They need to end series. It was so special the first movie it hurts every time watching a new movie lol

[@RileyScarletSpiderGirl]

I personally love the first three films and I always will they're always a good time for me (first one is the best tho)

[@skival]

the first one was so fun. It felt like a wild ride...the other 2 had a few good spots but I never need to see them again. I will rewatch the first one anytime.

[@thomaspanditfan2435]

How were the 2 and 3 movies bad exactly?

[@kieriencrabtree]

Dead Man's Chest is the best one and most re-watchable

[@TheScoundresCantina]

Not if anything to say about it I have 😉

[@kaihart5870]

Hello there

[@ivannaharmoni]

@@kaihart5870 General Kenobi

[@hannahg8439]

Like for the ROTS reference. But where does it fit in the context??

[@doubleflores8350]

It’s sad how Pirates of the Caribbean came from being Disney’s more profitable franchise to being their most forgotten.

[@leightonpetty4817]

It was Disney’s last big success before it became the cinema of today-a constant rehash of pre-existing franchises. Say what you will about Pirates, but apart from a single theme park ride from 50 years ago they absolutely reveled in their creativity.

[@BlueTyphoon2017]

@@leightonpetty4817 idk, I don’t necessarily think everything they do is a rehash of things, but, I do think they need to come up with more creative things, or simpler just put more effort into their works instead of cookie cutting them.

[@jp3813]

@@leightonpetty4817 Honestly, the criticism that Hollywood has become a constant rehash of preexisting franchises already began in the 2000s. In Roger Ebert's review of Inception (2010), he states that "the movies often seem to come from the recycling bin these days: sequels, remakes, franchises."

[@elizabethashley42]

The first POTC movie is an actual masterpiece and one of my all-time favorite movies. 2 & 3 were alright but got convoluted and weird af. I enjoyed 4 but it was forgettable. I hate 5 with all my heart - Johnny Depp's heart clearly wasn't in it (and his personal life at the time is a good indicator as to why) and they did Geoffrey Rush dirty with the idiotic plot.

[@imdrum6881]

Agreed!! 5 was pretty much just good bc of the effects and the fact that the cast of young Jack Sparrow looks like an actual JS. The narrative was pure garbage.

[@MrMrjack18]

Dead Man's chest has stronger pace, much better villain, more and better action along with more suspense !

[@user-oq5ox1tq3g]

agree, At world's end was pretty much terrible plot-wise, but the special effects in it are great

[@sran438]

First 3 were great. With 2 and 3 being better than 1 for me (mostly).

[@liv97497]

Totally agree! I think 2 and 3 are good movies, but not great. They only work as follow-up to an outstanding movie. 4 and 5 should have never been made, honestly. The thing about curse of the black pearl is that it works in so many ways - as a fantasy movie, as a romance, as a mystery, and, to my pre-teen self, who was genuinely terrified and disgusted by the zombie pirates, as a horror. I can still rewatch it anytime, and I'll even rewatch 2 and 3, but I've never even considered rewatching the later ones - it bores me just to think about it.

[@sorcierenoire8651]

I just watched The first movie and Barbossa's undead crew walking underneath the Commodore's ship to board and ambush them was so cool! What a great movie to start watching for the trilogy!

[@sk8rddy957]

Pirates of the Caribbean Online comprises hours and hours of childhood memories. Almost nothing comes close to the nostalgia I feel for that game

[@jakobcrotty8907]

The first film works b/c the script is written entirely straight (save for *zombie pirates*). It's Depp's performance that does the heavy lifting, not how the part is written. Come to the sequels and the writers are trying to "top" what "they" did last time; the result is once Depp gets his hands on the script he overplays it. Capt. Jack, then, comes off like a totally different person.

[@IoanCenturion]

They really should just let this franchise die. It was fun, it was exciting, it was funny, but it's told its story and had its time. Let it go.

[@games_on_phone89]

@Logan Legend it ended at 3, or at least it could have

[@delix787]

part 3 ended it just fine.

[@epsilon1372]

@Logan Legend it only set up the fountain of youth as another adventure, not a necessary part in a story

[@iplyrunescape305]

but but but money

[@IoanCenturion]

@@iplyrunescape305 Great PFP btw

[@darknerd8332]

Simple: Disney made a crappy decision on removing Depp and know they are hated and are also loosing the best chance they have on staying alive

[@joshuajinkins9939]

Dead Men Tell No Tales isn’t horrible by itself, it just looks at all the rules and world building of the previous films and throws them out the window

[@MeMelon]

I always felt like the Pirates movies needed Will and Elizabeth, Jack cant really lead the movies

[@mikespearwood3914]

Exactly! He's a co-main character. He doesn't really work as a sole main character. The first movie was perfect with the three main characters, plus all the interesting support characters.

[@jilly2871]

yeah!! Love Willabeth

[@taklampan650]

I wasn't a fan of Will or Elizabeth

[@whywhywhywhywhywhywhywhywh2483]

I totally agree Jack Sparrow doesn't work as the main character.

[@moonknight5743]

Theres suppose to be a Captain in there somewhere

[@TheMrNalsur]

Dang, this is the first ad for Curiosity Stream that manages to almost convince me to subscribe. I have a rather soft spot for Hamburg, and would love to go through its history visually.

[@lafilosocueva721]

The main reason PoC is dying is because Gore Verbinski was the soul of the franchise. It's a shame that his directorial career with Disney and Bruckheimer ended after the purposely over the top bad pre-release critics for The Lone Ranger, that movie alone is more PoC than PoC 4 and 5.

[@NitroSpidey]

It’s sad to see Disney let this series die. Same with other series like how Tron is in cryogenic freeze. Wish they gave it a worthy send off (if the new one is a full blown reboot).

[@gustavoaguiar7776]

Ok, you lost me on "Pirates 5 is a solid sequel"

[@rebeccacummings6697]

“Jack Sparrow” Me: No CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow

[@roguerose7174]

I'm just gonna say I loved each and every one of those films they each had a unique feel to them a different path. But the fifth one made me sad. I grew up loving these films and there my favourites but the fifth one felt rushed, dumb, way to much cgi , and just had a weird story that could have been good.

[@ForceMaximus84]

I can take one more with Jack, Will and Elizabeth, but I’m done after that. Honestly, I want new stories and new characters to root for. No more sequels, remakes or reboots.

[@Trabsol]

They need to end Jack's story with one last movie with Johnny playing him. Then if they want to continue, introduce a new character in the final jack sparrow movie and move the main character over to him or her.

[@irvyne6111]

I only watched "Dead Men" once, but my main takeaway was that it felt like Johnny Depp was doing an over-the-top caricature impression of Jack Sparrow instead of just being him.

[@boomerix]

It is the year 2050, Disney wants to make the 26th Pirates of the Caribbean movie. All I want is just 1 Monkey Island movie.

[@davidmckab7527]

LMAO!

[@randymarshislorde]

All things considered, I was around 9 when curse of the black pearl released, so I was lucky enough to have partially grew up with the first few movies, what a wonderful ride it was on those first 3. That said though, really I think as far as the franchise goes, that ship has sailed. (No pun intended)

[@user-vz1is1si7o]

The first 3 POTC movies are incredible... the rest aren’t worth watching

[@westontheexistent7154]

On stranger tides is one of my favorites

[@joaofigueiredo3048]

I would say 4 is acceptable but forgettable as well. It's not a direct sequel for me, just a spin-off. DMTNT is a catastrophe though. Disney really let the franchise on the hands of people who don't understand it. They didn't even care about the canon of the movies/books.

[@nightowl7261]

It's the story telling. 1 linked with 2 and 2 linked with 3. The other 2 sequels were just standalone for 1 time thing.

[@Mrenderboyo2]

4 was good though, definitely my favorite

[@HeyFella]

It’s because Gore Verbinski is an artist with a vision and he left after the 3rd.

[@derekconnors4128]

Pirates 1-3 (The Verbinski Trilogy) is my favorite trilogy ever. Yes, more than Lord of the Rings, Back to the Future, or any of the Star Wars trilogies. Pirates 4 and 5 should never have happened.

[@Xscape128]

Only reason why Pirates is not up there with Star Wars in terms of popularity, is because SW was ground breaking when it came, in terms of the space theme, special effects etc While The Pirates genre had already been done since the early 1900s. To me however, it's pretty much a tie between the two franchise's

[@Kenanhower]

That was a real subtle ad right there at the end. Didn’t even realize it was an ad till you provided the link

[@corncrackerkid5092]

What I find funny is I actually enjoyed the second and fourth the most, Will and Elizabeth were way too sappy for my liking and they shed that sappiness in the second movie and Elizabeth actually had some edge to her in it too! That little “OOH! Oh! The HEAT!” and her getting so frustrated the boys wouldn’t pay attention to her was absolutely hilarious and such SASS, my family was actually thrilled they left in the fourth movie. I loved they showed Barbossa had a soft heart in the fifth movie and how he interacted with Carina, let me tell you that exchange of “What Am I to you?” “Treasure” was beautiful

[@VelkanKiador]

You know, Jack was never as good as he was in the first movie. Sure we remember how goofy he was in the first movie as it was the most memorable thing about him, but what I feel is often forgotten is that the goofy attitude of his was used to mask just how clever and dangerous he could be. There are plenty of moments I felt that Jack Sparrow caught me of guard in the first movie, because just like the antagonists I too had underestimated him. But those moments rarely came up in the sequels, as he got a lot more predictable and most of his clever stunts felt like flukes in the sequels.

[@goodmind4940]

He's basically what jar-jar should have been

[@landlighterfirestar5550]

I think you’ve got it wrong! I think the quote that we get in the first movie explains it: “Do you think he gets it, or just makes it up as he goes along?”

[@thorragnarok8112]

Yea your right this person I talked to described Jack perfectly he’s a unpredictable genius disguised as an idiot which is why when they see that’s got to be the best pirate I’ve ever seen was so cool when we first saw it because we as the audience never knew what he was truly trying to accomplish until he did it and you see that he in the first one always had a plan

[@cheekblush]

I think he is still very clever and unpredictable in the second and third movie. Overall, the trilogy is very consistent and also shows character growth for all the characters. It all went downhill from the 4th movie for me and by the 5th movie Jack was just portrayed as a useless, drunk idiot which is just sad. I don't understand how and why the ruined his character so much, it doesn't make any sense.

[@rociomiranda5684]

I agree. There was an undercurrent of danger to Jack's character in the first movie that was very intriguing. Then it fizzled out in subsequent films and he became an endearing clown. Disappointing.

[@kingsamurai3216]

I remember when POTC 5 was getting leaked and I was actually very into the series at the time. I watched it in the theater and was severely underwhelmed. I tried to rewatch it around a year ago and found it too boring. The 4th is ok, definitely not the worst, but I could see how someone would think so. It should have ended as a trilogy and maybe just had spinoffs.

[@krystofthepolishguytalksan310]

To be fair, 4 does very much feel like a spin-off.

[@kit2635]

The Pirates Online transitions gave me such nostalgia whiplash, it was basically my entire childhood

[@Housewarmin]

I love Pirates. And I love the lore they bring to life. There are so many legends and folklore of the sea, they could bring into their movies. BUT Johnny Depp and the main cast can't carry the franchise. The stories get wayy to confusing. I think if they shifted from Johnny Depp to more "tales of the sea" It could reinvigorate the franchise.

[@VerryJerry90]

1-3 is the pirates for me. The last two killed his character and are a chore to watch

[@GabesEdtiz]

Pirates of the Caribbean is nothing without Jack Sparrow and Johnny Depp

[@HBKCommish]

Thank you. Someone who is sticking to the facts. Sick and tired of seeing videos pushing this false narrative that the Pirates franchise is dying because of certain someone trying to destroy Depp's career and reputation. Failing to mention the fact that the Pirates franchise started going downhill in the sequel, LONG before there was any sort of accusations. Despite their impressive box office numbers, 2 and 3 just weren't that good in comparison to the first. The 4th and 5th movies were utter garbage. Again, I don't care if they did well box office-wise.

[@dusk194]

I have rewatched these movies over and over again. And i still love them. The internet is weird- making memes is not a critique, and there is no say that the more memes there are, the better the movie is

[@CoinOpTV]

wow there were five of these? Who knew!

[@Skycoder13]

me :)

[@SilencedPlasmaSnake]

Almost $800M at the box office, I’d say a few people knew

[@DS-mi9ru]

There aren't. It stops after part 3.

[@DS-mi9ru]

@wulfgar3000 The joke: >>>> Your head: We pretend part 4 and 5 don't exist because they suck and the first trilogy didn't need sequels to begin with.

[@BRACEGAMING-gv9fo]

The disgrace

[@asAbsolute]

Ayyy lol POTCO. They made a remake called “The Legends of Pirate Online”. Its pretty fun.

[@aronastron9538]

It's a fan run server. It's probably Disney's most underrated MMO

[@tonybrown7155]

Played it today good fun, constantly being updated, adding new content soon and have already fixed many bugs in it and still has a big fan base

[@benm3382]

I totally agreed with this take on PotC! The first movie was such a great film. 2 and 3 were chaotic and confusing, but they are still really underrated as Pirate epics. The fourth movie was definitely the worst, and really went astray. The fifth one, in my opinion, was a really fun return to the charm of the first movies.

[@MsJubjubbird]

2 and 3 are basically 1 film. They have to be watched together. The third movie is my favorite ofthe trilogy because Tom Holland has this amazing performance that perfectly counters ohnny's

[@delix787]

For anybody who is always praising the first movie to be the best. I have been studying 1-3 and I constantly re-watch them. Pirates of the Caribbean does not go downhill in writing after the first movie. That is your business to believe that opinion everyone else goes with. Dead man’s chest gave the characters more depth! Elizabeth and William barely have anything to work with in the first movie. William’s relationship with his father that was hinted in the first movie of his father‘s existence. Paid off wonderfully. William’s character had way more in depth now and you have something to truly care about him for. You get both perspectives when you understand their Reunion! Bootstrap didn’t want Will to become a pirate like him, he wanted him to have a free life from the pirate life. William had a hard time accepting he was half Pirate but when he accepted his life and his father… He has a new journey to stab the heart of Davy Jones to set his father free. And you’re implying William is better in the first movie just because he wanted to save the girl he loved? William in the second movie now has Elizabeth as a lover. And now a new journey to rescue his father someone else he cares about. And this became a difficult situation when bootstrap told Elizabeth at world‘s end. William has to make a decision. Either don’t kill Davy Jones so he can be with you. Or he does kill Davy Jones and set me free, but he won’t be able to be on land for 10 years. If I were him I wouldn’t pick me! :/ The emotional weight on William’s character gets better and better. Elizabeth in the first movie was just a damsel in distress girl. She wasn’t useless in the first movie but you get the point. In the second movie, Elizabeth learned to wield a sword and she used it in the battle. She pulled a gun to Beckett‘s head.. went on her own journey to save will. She has grown a lot since the first movie who was just an innocent girl! Elizabeth got better as a character in 2 and 3! As for Jack sparrow. He does not become a joke at all in all 3 movies. Jack sparrow is at his best in the second movie and in the third movie. There was a moment in dead men’s chest… Where Jack didn’t know what he truly wanted so the compass couldn’t locate what he desired. So when Elizabeth went on her journey and then found Jack.. Jack used her for his advantage! He took advantage of Elizabeth’s feelings by telling her if you want to save Will you have to want to find the chest of Davy Jones! In order to get will back.. That’s why Jack gave her the compass. Jack knew if he couldn’t figure what he wanted out he was going to get it out of Elizabeth. Since Elizabeth now wants to find the chest of Davy Jones to save will. This gives Jack the huge opportunity to find the chest to stab the heart in it. But instead he wants to control DavyJones before killing him. Jack sparrow is not stupid! When will was trying to stab the heart towards the end of the second movie. Jack knows just because Davy Jones is dead, does not mean the Kraken will be stopped as well. And you’re telling me Jack is dumb after part 1?? As for Beckett. He was a well executed villain who uses dialogue and negotiation to control people. The Reason why Beckett didn’t fire his cannons at worlds end. Was because it would be totally out of his character to use weapons. Beckett uses certain words to get through people and how to control them behind the scenes. Beckett at the end of the movie had nothing left to negotiate with. Davy Jones was dead, Jack sparrow is alive and well. Will Turner is now the new captain of the Flying Dutchman. Beckett had literally nothing to use against on people. He was caught in shocked and he decided to die.. Anyways I could defend the Gore Verbinski’s Trilogy all night. His trilogy is an underrated trilogy. It had great character writing and amazing detail of its depth. Also Will vs Davy Jones!!! 😈😈😈 when Will challenging Davy Jones. Davy Jones asks him how do you know about the key? Will replies and says, that's NOT part of the game is it? 😏 You can STILL walk away!! 😏 As for pirates 4/5 they are not even Canon they are filler movies. The story ended at worlds end! ☠️

[@Dutch_man20]

You know, I remember as a kid I had a book that was part of a prequel series of books that explained a lot about Jack sparrows backstory. It involved Bill Turner, all these interesting stories, and some cool features we have yet to see on film. I think they should start a series based off those books

[@ThePTurtle115]

Idk, maybe it’s just me - but I sincerely loved all of the pirates movies. Even On Stranger Tides. Despite it feeling like the weakest entry in the series, I still find a lot of enjoyment to it til this day. In fact, I actually liked Dead Men Tell No Tales more than all the sequels. First is obviously the best. Lightning in a bottle. I’d say let Pirates have one more movie. Wrap it up with 6 and be done with it.

[@spectrum7206]

I hope in the next movie we see jack sailing with the Dutchmen and they fight something more evil than Davy Jones and end it with sparrow dying with emotional music and characters looking like they actually have emotion and care for jack. Would be a good end. The series goes down with it’s captain and the captain goes down with his ship. Pirates paying tribute, the end

[@neovalley4539]

Yeah, but it won't happen. Since they fired Depp 😕

[@themadclown4077]

@@spectrum7206 I mean the end of 5 hinted at davy jones return. If they do continue jacks story i think we will see davy jones.

[@reedime5396]

When they announced that they were making another Pirates of the Carribean movie, I thought to myself..."I need to remember to buy milk tomorrow".

[@joshuabadu4487]

Great video essay and you're absolutely right. Pirates of the Carribean turned into the Jack Sparrow show when rightfully it was the world of Pirates that made it so amazing in the trilogy. Contrast this with the Star Wars or Marvel series where there's several beloved characters that thrust the story forward. Moral of the story never become a one trick pony