The truth about the NHS & Andrew Neil on Europe's riots - The Week in 60 Minutes | SpectatorTV

[@englishdogs]

Thank you, Andrew, for referring to the English as the "indigenous white population". Appreciated.

[@seanpennatgmail]

First Nation.

[@anonymouse740]

I'm black and born in England, I've never once described myself as English, if someone asks me I am Black British. I'm proud of this country and would die defending it.

[@guff9567]

​@@anonymouse740The indigenous people of Britain are black . FACT. Ask ANY archaeologist. Those vvhites are AN INVASIVE SPECIES.

[@fionaetienne1693]

Bloody joke!

[@khankrum1]

@@anonymouse740Thankyou my friend. How many Muslims would do the same thing?

[@khankrum1]

I am an expat Brit living in Bulgaria. Two weeks ago I saw an eye specialist after waiting a week. Ten days later I was in surgery having a new lens fitted to my eye. That was three days ago! I would suggest that there are far too many administrators, and not enough training of INDIGENOUS Doctors and nurses!

[@CraigTheBrute-co3ys]

Doctors (8 years training) are being replaced with unqualified Practitioners (2 years “training”). This is a scandal no one wants to talk about.

[@carrie4558]

You are absolutely correct 👏🏻

[@Smelly_Minge]

Yeah, Leicester is a thriving migrant city... the running street battles last year were such a joy of integration.

[@phantomhorse8255]

We don 't even hear about this sort of thing on the news in our own country. Media and government both desperate to keep a lid on it all and pretend it is not happening. Meanwhile more flood in.

[@khankrum1]

Leicester.The Polo Mint! Black on the inside, white on the outside!

[@stellahubbard4050]

Leicester is 😢

[@andylewis7360]

I know right?! Andrew Neil seems to be suffering from dementia induced amnesia. And I cant help noticing a startling similarity to Mr Creosote too!! Just one wafer thin mint!

[@mogbrown8409]

The mass migration into Britain, particularly England, has caused even greater pressure on the NHS. The cost to the taxpayers is growing exponentially. Yet it seems this present government is quite okay with that. It is always the ordinary working people that pays the true cost of the legal and illegal immigration. This is both financially and also having their communities and culture destroyed. They see their families unable to get affordable housing or rental accommodation. If there is any available? It may shock you men to know that very few people believe that the U.K. has been successful or enhanced with the importation of millions of migrants. They have long wanted it stopped and reversed. You may sit in your quiet little French villages, away from the violence of the cities, and congratulate yourselves on being so progressive and welcoming to third world chancers. You don’t have to put up with the consequences of flooding our once great countries with so many migrants.

[@guff9567]

Great, because u raped, pillaged and genocided.😂😂 LOOL

[@alice1374]

Privatisation of the NHS doesn't help. 50% of GP's already owned by American firms

[@guff9567]

@@alice1374 I'm happy to hear UK GPs are now the indentured slaves of America. This trash deserved nothing better.

[@christinerussell113]

​@alice1374 Absolute bunkum. Lefty Liberals have been claiming that the NHS is under threat from privatisation for decades. It is free at the point of use, and will continue to be so due to our dedication to the new religion, known as the NHS. The fact is it is no longer fit for purpose, partly due to the massive increase in our population, numbers never even dreamed of when it was set up. Plus of course people are living longer, and the range of treatments available are ever more extensive. But further, the NHS is hugely wasteful, badly run by a growing number of managers, many of them so called ' diversity managers', earning huge, and unwarranted salaries. Maybe if more of these tick box hires were dispensed with, those essential, and valuable members of staff, ie, the Doctors and Nurses, might be paid a salary they are worth. The truth is, despite lies to the contrary, spending on this sacred cow has increased, with the OECD recently naming Britain as the country with the 6th largest expenditure on health. At the same time, we are amongst the worst in terms of performance. It is obvious why the the British health system, so revered in this country, has not been copied anywhere else. Countries like France and Germany, successfully combining both public and private expenditure, offer a far superior service. The NHS needs a complete overhaul, with both its achievements and its failings being addressed. However, given the extent to which it has become, as I said, a religion, worshipped and adored, with no criticism allowed, no political party will ever dare to touch it. So it will limp on, ultimately failing to offer the type of service we should expect, and actually pay for. Meanwhile, the numbers of patients grow, as immigration grows. It long ago became an International Health Service.

[@andylewis7360]

Quite OK with it?? They’re encouraging it! Don’t you get it? We didn’t breed fast enough so we’re being replaced. Mark my words. In 25 years there’ll be no middle class. Just elites and an underclass that’s hemmed into ghettos.

[@laika3916]

Why there is there no unrest when a teacher is beheaded?

[@andylewis7360]

A very good question. Or when children are stabbed to death in their pushchairs. The French are cowed ( as planned ). Who really believes that The Notre Damme fire wasn’t arson? Monsieur Macron was well trained by Papa Klaus Von WEF.

[@jamessmith1652]

"It could even happen in this country (UK)" - erm, it DID happen in Britain, around ten years ago.

[@julianshepherd2038]

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[@RH1812]

Wales

[@yuglesstube]

Brixton

[@dorthonian]

Andrew Neil’s position on mandatory vaccination of the masses makes him unwatchable now for me. Used to like him before he showed his true colours. He has never apologised for the fascist bile he spewed at the unvaccinated.

[@NorfolkSceptic]

Neil has been immersed in Politics for most of his life, so he has no understanding of any STEM subjects, just like most journalists and MPs, with Andrew Bridgen being an exception. No wonder they threw him out of the House of Commons!

[@brendancorrigan]

Ah really, Neil was pushing covid vaccine mandates? At least Richard Dawkins had the decency to say he got that one wrong. I'm guessing for Neil he just doesn't see it as a major issue, which is very unfortunate. If you let the establishment away with one thing, the way is clear for more abuses ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5XMq3mtp5eogac

[@andrewpodmore2440]

Agreed, Neil holds nothing for me now. Also sajid was up for letting 1/3 un vaccinated NHS staff be sacked until the doctor on sky news called him out on the gov't mandatory vaccine policy.

[@doodlebrighton124]

Agreed. His stance on mandatory vaccination was revolting. Him and that other chubby moron from Spiked getting backhanders from Pfizer?

[@johnline]

100% in today's situation, with what we know and what has evolved, shows what little stature he is that he can't apologise.

[@MP-ye6tv]

true question… why is assimilation of migrants considered a negative? Surely it is a good thing. My parents were post-war migrants and would not have dreamt of NOT assimilating into the new and wonderful country that welcomed them and was to be their new home. If I were to migrate I would feel the same.

[@yuglesstube]

There are degrees of compatibility. Obviously

[@skymanifest8339]

To be fair, how does a newly arrived migrant in London manage to assimilate, even if they wanted to? The host culture and its people has been completely wiped out in the capital, and great swathes of this country, making assimilation impossible.

[@yuglesstube]

@skymanifest8339 that's why mass immigration is a bad idea. Immigration is great, in small numbers. Enriching and improving the nation. But too much is very bad, causing reactionary movements to become prominent. Let me predict that one day Marine Le Pen will run France. Inconceivable a few years ago.

[@YallaGoetheTV]

If you parents had no culture and proper background then yes assimilating was worth it

[@andylewis7360]

Of course assimilation is a good thing. But when the scale and rapidity of immigration is as it has been since the days of Blair, immigrants don’t assimilate. They simply form ghettos.

[@liammccann8763]

For the last year, European leaders and media have ignored events in Ireland. We in Ireland are not at all surprised by what has occurred in France.

[@mjanny6330]

It amazes me that the fighting Irish, with a long proud history of love for their homeland, have let it be treated so.

[@liammccann8763]

@@mjanny6330 Nationalism, and native rights, are now seen as a pariah in Ireland.

[@andylewis7360]

WE see you. WE know what’s happening. And we mourn the loss of your wonderful country and people. One of the last bastions of European Roman Catholicism has switched so fast it makes one’s head spin

[@mesolithicman164]

It's not acknowledged because nothing will be done in the present circumstances. Ireland took the European money, invited the multinational corporations in, but the price was Ireland itself. Like Holland, Ireland has been used as a petri dish to see how rapid multiracialism would affect the status quo. Holland's farmers have kicked back and it seems the Irish people aren't going quietly. This is what must happen to prevent Ireland being completely lost. My one major surprise has been how willing Sinn Fein has been to sell out the Irish people for EU cash.

[@andylewis7360]

@@mesolithicman164 What a clearheaded take. With just the commensurate degree of cynicism. So, what’s the endgame, MM? And what’s to be done about it?

[@chrisohanlon69]

Andrew Neil describes Macron as "surviving and seeing out" the various examples of disorder and decline under his presidency. Surely ignored until they diminished and making himself absent for anything that mattered would be a better description.

[@terencefield3204]

Neil as ever and of limited value now.

[@tpl6963]

he's a globalist and nimbyist, goes with the territory. the elite always love a plaything to laugh at, while suffering no ill effects. frankly andrew looks close to death and it seems his fatass doesn't give a damn about future generations

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Johnathan Miller, demonstrates that the elite of our society never suffer the consequences of the disastrous policies on near open boarders that they have inflicted on us. "Oh, in our [posh] village it has been utterly unremarkable". It is just a topic of conversation and annoyance that this is happening again...to other people.

[@baronniesereine]

Our village is hardly posh. Average household income under €30,000. My neighbours are vignerons, builders, market traders.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

@@baronniesereine What has that got to do with it? My comment is that Miller is part of the "Let them all come" class and he doesn't suffer when they are tearing cities apart. The vast majority of working class people don't live in leafy villages, regardless of average house price or income.

[@baronniesereine]

@@williamvorkosigan5151 you said I lived in a posh village but you had no idea what sort of village I live in so your comment is incorrect, irrelevant. I replied to you to correct your misinformation. Your ignorant reply to me suggests it’s a waste of time to engage any further with you. You can’t even spell my name. Hopeless. Goodbye.

[@andylewis7360]

Their only contact with immigrants is with people of their own social standing and so they expect every import from a third world country to be like a Ugandan Princess they met while studying at Oxford. They don’t understand that if you import a decent proportion of people from the third world you GET the third world.

[@tpl6963]

i'm starting to distance myself from the spectator. just a bunch of nimbyist idiots save for a few good journalists like Freddy Gray

[@gca259]

I watched the Sajid Javid interview hoping for insight and solutions and got 12 minutes of drivel. Wasn't he supposed to be an intelligent, capable, get-things-done, potential prime minister...? I despair.

[@guff9567]

Good spot of racism there. Proud?

[@andylewis7360]

Agreed! Just Tory codswallop. They’re no longer conservative. If anything they’re Blairites.

[@egverlander]

@@guff9567 Your perception filters everything through racism. SJ was boring. Turned it off.

[@gca259]

@@guff9567 My comment about Sajid Javid had nothing to do with race. What did you think of his interview?

[@guff9567]

@@egverlander Thank you for your kind racial hatred

[@happystarhappystar1477]

It's like the two men are just itching to pretend the jihad invasion away.

[@RichardEnglander]

Exactly that ^^^ 👏👏👏 they want to deny the inevitable. The cope is strong.

[@phantomhorse8255]

Correct!

[@guff9567]

​@@phantomhorse8255must be fun being a racist, no?

[@andylewis7360]

It’s intentional. It’s politicians’ job to make excuses for the real decision makers and people like Neil’s job to keep us all calm. We are being intentionally replaced because we don’t breed fast enough

[@gillianwhite1706]

I studied in 1997 = 2001 (very late in life) and on my reading list were the philosophers of the 20th century. Trying to remember who it was who said that a book is not finished until a reader had read it. These trigger warnings are idiotic. It means that people are incapable of making up their own minds about a book. Does no one know when it is fiction? I read Grimm's Fairy Tales as a child, I wasn't damaged because I knew it was a story. I am hating the world as it is at the moment and worried for the young generations who are being brainwashed.

[@philiplindley7384]

This is the result of too much liberality and too little respect for civilisation; that needs to be turned around - a few harsh lessons. Once all these thugs know they can get away with almost anything, they will. If anything goes, then everything goes, until someone has the 'cojones' to disprove that, like El Salvador. That's what's coming, for all of us.

[@julianshepherd2038]

It is because cops killing young men in Paris is not uncommon. This is 1 of 17 in recent years. Police acting as judge, jury and executioner is not civilisation.

[@phantomhorse8255]

It's the result of too many people, and inevitable inability to control escalating numbers.

[@khankrum1]

When this " Liberalism " collapses National Socialism takes over!

[@andylewis7360]

Does anyone really think that Notre Damme was NOT arson??

[@stevenrichardson1843]

To discuss these incidents without mentioning Islam is cowardly.The rioters certainly did.

[@guff9567]

Why? Are you a Christian?

[@stevenrichardson1843]

@@guff9567 No, I just saw footage of rioters praising their god . That suggests to me that THEY certainly thought it was a factor.

[@andylewis7360]

Alloa Snackbar!!

[@BudFox575]

As a German, I want to thank you for totally exposing Von Der Leyen. She is an absolute disaster. The unspoken consensus in Germany is that we posted her to all of these international roles to keep her out of the German and limit the damage she can do.

[@DungeonKeeperLondonDungeonHire]

Very short memories!! The whole place went up in a flames in the UK following the shooting of Mark Duggan.

[@danielclemence3689]

I can't believe Andrew thinks it could happen anywhere in Europe. Who thinks like that? There's literally no comparison to Paris in Eastern Europe. Pretty much all Eastern Europe doesn't have issues with this because of reasons so obvious that I don't need to say them.

[@douglasprobert251]

Ben Wallace should identify as trans woman. Job is hers.

[@gerhard7323]

Andrew Neil's obviously got a pub sumo gig lined up after this interview.

[@guff9567]

I give him 6 months tops

[@andylewis7360]

Startling similarity to Mr Creosote. 😂

[@ijejlnfzzdfar7540]

I love this format of the show and Kate did a brilliant job.

[@glynparry6598]

AGREE

[@jasonedwards6870]

Great podcast. I listen every week.👏👏👏

[@SamOwen55]

We were never asked. Yet we are forced to accept and change for them, and to foot all the cost of all the issues.

[@andylewis7360]

We didn’t breed fast enough. Enoch Powell saw the writing on the wall but he was silenced.

[@commonwunder]

In France, it is illegal to carry or collect ethnic data. All French citizens are just considered 'French'. But to be 'French' you must put the French state and its ideals above everything else. To be French... you must uphold French values. Muslims specifically but many other ethnic groups too... can't and won't do that. So in a bizarre sense... they can't be French. So you've large groups of people that live in France, that are not fundamentally citizens. The 'unofficial number' of French Muslims is 'one in ten people' ...but it's probably much higher. Possibly two out of every ten. Which is even higher when counting other groups... with similar 'unease' with the country they call home. Feel traditional French values don't appeal, or have anything to do with them. In a corrupt Western Capitalist dystopia... Nationalism is all people have to bind themselves together, at a local level. Otherwise, all you have is the West's 'giant pyramid sales scheme' for sustenance. The West is a soulless place and generally people need Nationalism in order to overcome the meaninglessness of their lives. Take it away... or have the 'left-leaning educated' segment of society try to undermine it, then you've a huge societal problem. And Europe and the US have huge societal problems.

[@jugg3647]

Yet so many people want to come to the "soulless" west and enjoy our "huge societal problems"

[@commonwunder]

@@jugg3647 No, they come to the West for the wealth. Not to 'join' Western society. The smart people stay put... the greedy migrants move to where the money is. They believe that money equates happiness. They don't come for the culture. The West only attracts the surface dwellers of life... from all around the world. It makes the West even more dystopian, as it fills up with restless lost souls.

[@mjanny6330]

The west sold its soul to satisfy the enemies they ironically fought to protect.

[@mataform]

Omg! I do not hold your nihilistic view of the west. Crumbs! What do you think of the rest of the globe?Fancy a turn in most of the Arab countries or perhaps the Congo or Yemen or Somalia not to mention Libya or South Sudan. I mean you really sound like someone who has never suffered.

[@narendra62]

​@@jugg3647It just shows migrants home countries have worse problems. I do agree there are societal problems in the west. And we do need to tackle them. Take France as an example. If young people aren't interested in or aren't prepared for the jobs on offer that has severe consequences.

[@_Vanderlust]

Kate Andrews ❤

[@vrkoven]

On the trigger warnings for Virginia Woolf, I wonder if the key motivating factor on the part of the publisher is just fear: as Mencken said about puritans, who are kept awake at night by the gnawing fear that someone somewhere might be having fun, publishers may fear that people who, no longer being led by the nose by college teachers and administrators in exactly how to think, might find themselves having independent ideas about literature that might not line up precisely with those of the the publishers' editorial staffs and similarly pulverized, sifted and filtered "thought leaders."

[@Clickie13]

This episode is approved by the WEF the UN and the EU.

[@andylewis7360]

Unkle Klaus iz werry pleaz’d mit dis eppizode.

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

Enoch Powell was right.

[@andylewis7360]

Damn bloody right he was!

[@patrickjoneill5836]

Rishi Sunak/By-elections - to me this all feels like the John Major years leading to the Tory wipeout in 1997, the only time since the 1960s that I didn't vote Conservative and spoiled my ballot paper instead. The Tories have very little to show for 13 years in power.

[@exebit9366]

Excelente analysis from Tom Slater. This is a subject close to my heart as the love of books since early childhood opened the world to me. The best way to fight this is humour. And putting the publishing bosses on telly to explain exactly why they are doing this. I think the elites don’t want today’s readers to be aware how unfair and dangerous the world used to be. The elites need to keep us afraid and divided so that their careers continue to thrive before Woke ends and the world pivota to the Right. This will be scary.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Pro No Boarders Kate Andrews astonished to hear that if you invite in barbarians, your country (or rather our country) becomes more barbaric. Has she changed her views? No. After all, she is an economist that doesn't see the link in House Price inflation and vastly increasing demand with Hyper Immigration.

[@paulies5407]

Intellectual cowardice. That’s all these academics have to offer.

[@mjanny6330]

The people rioting are worse then barbarians, they're more like marauders.

[@tom4381]

It really is blood boiling.

[@andylewis7360]

The only immigrants these people encounter are minor African royalty they met whilst at Oxford

[@jamessheedy8933]

The policy choices are 1) mass expulsions 2) swift and brutal punishment for public order offences 3) a 20 year moratorium of 50k a year on immigration from Africa, Islamic countries and Asia 4) start sinking small boats.

[@sharpasapistol]

Next victim for a trigger warning, the films of Roy Rogers ?

[@khankrum1]

Ursula Von der Leyen as General Secretary of NATO???? ANGELS AND MINISTERS OF GRACE PRESERVE US!

[@andylewis7360]

It’s all slowly coming together. Pretty soon the WEF, UN, EU and NATO will be indistinguishable

[@khankrum1]

" Macron walks on water"! That only goes to prove that shit floats,

[@DrEO86]

The only trigger warning that should come with Virginia Wolfe's work is that it is always garbage. Nice Ralph Lauren shirt by Andrew Neil.

[@RonanTOC]

Riots would never happen in Poland, Hungary or the Baltics

[@andylewis7360]

That’s because they’re too busy thinking up new potato recipes

[@carrie4558]

Perhaps if the nhs focused on increasing standards and on patients’ well-being instead of pushing diversity in the workforce it would be a better place.

[@TessaTickle]

Jonathan Miller: "in France there is almost an institutionalised racism, these kids have almost no access to higher education". Oh, are you saying that operating a meritocracy is "institutionalised racism"? Are you suggesting that like in the UK the French lower the standards of entry to levels of UK incompetence?

[@liaminwales]

Terry Pratchett is also getting content warnings. It's sad that big publishers want the money from selling IP but are scared of a social backlash from the minority on social media, the idea of a disclaimer freeing them from backlash is pathetic.

[@phantomhorse8255]

It will not be long before we are like France. The number of people is becoming iuncontrollable and we have little idea of who is here.

[@guff9567]

"we"? None of y'r nosey-parker, busy-body buiness. Go home to Lorene Whitacker , y'r mum whom u married.

[@andylewis7360]

We ARE like France. Andrew Neil just conveniently ignores the fact because his wife is Muslim!

[@shylockwesker5530]

You won't have racial riots in Poland, nor in Hungary, Slovenia, Slovakia, Czechia, Romania, the Baltic nor in Turkey. Now what do these countries have in common?

[@robertcook2572]

Hmm...the less said about Turkey's record on human rights the better

[@Libertariun]

No one knows, apparently. Is it that they don´t have "gang violence"? That's the new "code word". "Gangs".

[@guff9567]

Jaruzelski, Kádár, Svoboda, Ceaușescu, Tito. 🤔 😂😂😂

[@andylewis7360]

Catholicism? 3G phones? Spastic colons??! I’ve no idea! What’s the common thread?

[@user-nx6ji9tk8i]

First time there was a call for a Royal Commission on the NHS was 1979. Then it was Norman Lamb who made a serious proposal for a cross party think on the NHS with a Riyal Commission. The subject has been ducked for decades. Sajid did not identify the causes of so much ill health being rooted outside the NHS. There has to be a bigger consideration of prevention & what we were taught in the 1960s about ‘western diseases of civilisation’. Let,s not discuss the demise of western civilisation just yet!!

[@richardgillies9160]

I think you will find the migration issue is one of belonging. If you are say an Algerian and move to France and have children as a parent they know they are an Algerian living in France. But their children are not seen as Algerian in Algeria, they are French. But in France they are not French, they are an Immigrant. If they do not belong in Algeria or France they go to where they feel they belong and Religion or a Gang let's you have a family. Make them belong and you will solve the issue. We partially do this by accident as you can be English, Indian or from the Commonwealth.

[@Zidana123]

"Make them belong and you will solve the issue." How does it go? *"If wishes were horses beggars would ride"* Yes, if only you could reach into the hearts of men and make them feel something other than what they actually feel then you could solve not just this but _any_ issue But meanwhile you don't actually have the ability to do that so the solution is beyond the reach of both yourself and the French

[@andylewis7360]

Well said. The OP is obviously intelligent but is incapable of seeing what’s glaringly obvious to those who live with the problem all the time. He should make a good replacement for Corbyn / Foot / Callaghan

[@drew1784]

The NHS needs more doctors and nurses. And should grow to include dentistry But to do this affordably there needs to be a reform of the tertiary education sector to increase the supply of these skilled ppl.

[@patriciakimball8150]

“‘Ghetto’ is” NOT “an American word.” It derives from the Jewish area near the Ghetto Glassworks in Venice.

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

It has NOTHING to do with social justice. If the cops stop you do what they say. If you don't bad things can happen. This isn't social justice.

[@andylewis7360]

Yup. 100%. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes

[@paulgilliland2992]

Try getting an appointment with specialty providers in the larger population centers in the Western USA . It never was great but now it’s simply beyond unacceptable. More and more of the gatekeepers, ie primary care referrals are ditching their jobs for other countries. I know personally of two pc and one gastroenterologist who have left their full time positions and are working in Europe or Per Diem contract jobs paying $10000.00/week.

[@drew1784]

The UK needs to snub Von der Leyen. Acquiescing to the US on this is not a good look

[@lotus7eater]

Jonathan Miller said "a number of people have been killed" in the riots- how many?

[@terencefield3204]

The core error was the mindlessly stupid decision to not define citizenship as specific to territory in 1945, rather than 1964, with 19 years as all being simply 'subject of the King ( or queen) and thus able to travel with no restriction. Then the left forced the decision de facto to make a tiny previously poor European archipelago a tinpot version of a vast empire, when the British understood the component peoples, and knew well that the different tribes and religious groups in the globaL EMPIRE would not get on, having slaughtered each other whenever they encountered each other. British Madness. Now all is lost.

[@markashdown1314]

The French disturbances are race riots.Imported aggro. Nanterre was idyllic when I lived there.

[@deborahloew-black5637]

What about looking truthfully at why there have been so many humans placed in a situation of feeling desperate or even it to be a matter of life & death to seek the path of a refugee in another country. What are the truthful reasons underlying uprooting of enormous populations ? Wars for example? Does a country that now is increasingly a destination for refugees, have a role in the causation leading to the refugee population? Can this be reversed in a good & constructive way?

[@josephgonzalez_]

Politicians are afraid about saying a lot of things, not just in relation to the NHS. Too many spineless careerists in their ranks.

[@andylewis7360]

The front benches on both sides are lined with people whose ambitions dwarf their abilities or insight. But then, they’re really only there to make excuses for the real decision makers so I suppose that’s no surprise

[@irish7summits]

I'm old enough to remember a racially motivated police shooting in a major city leading to widespread riots in the capital city which spread to many other urban centres across the country, lasting 5 days, resulting in 5 deaths, 200 injuries and 5000 arrests with 2500 businesses attacked and looted, 230 homes targeted by rioters and 664 people robbed or injured. That was the London riots of 2011!

[@davidrenton]

it wasn't a racially motivated police shooting, a criminal had a gun and was shot. The fact he was black was irrelevant, the police would have done the same no matter his colour. It was the rioters who acted like thugs that where the actual racists. Imagine if White people rioted everytime a white person got shot, which in the US is far more likely than for a black person to be shot by the police i live in that exact area and i was driving through the riots at the time, i tell you 1 thing, i doubt any1 of those morons could even name Duggan , and yes i was prepared to do whatever was necessary to protect myself against them, i'd rather do life than submit to thugs like that

[@spm36]

It wasn't racially motivated at all

[@robertingle9845]

Criminal was shot. Race irrelevant to the event.

[@khar12d8]

​@@davidrentonLoads of white people rioted in the riots in 2011. In London it started with some local black people but then across London and up north I remember seeing loads of white people rioting. You could argue it was more a class thing than a race thing. White people have rioted in this country for generations. The poll tax riots were overwhelmingly white.

[@julianshepherd2038]

​@@spm36just a coincidence he was brown😂

[@julianshepherd2038]

Tories smug because it is 12 whole years since the last major rioting in England. Its going to be a long hot summer.

[@guff9567]

Why do you and your ilk choose to use the word "tory", when it's "conservative"? Do you also name call black people the n word too?

[@andylewis7360]

Smug is what they do best. God knows what Labour does best but it certainly isn’t govern

[@VerdantSerpent]

Why criticise Mary Lepen and act like Macron has weathered some sort of storm like a strong leader. They literally state the problem is immigration and migrants. Atleast Lepen might actually do something about the situation. Like all politicians should. Like all citizens are literally dying for governments to do.

[@khar12d8]

I think Labour could end up reforming the NHS and its funding more than the Tories because the Tories are too untrusted on the NHS. Labour could get away with doing more without the fear of privatisation.

[@Mitjitsu]

Ironically Labour will probably be the ones to do what the Tories have long being accused of wanting to do.

[@guff9567]

Your use of the word "tories" says it all. I bet your the type who use the n word too.

[@andylewis7360]

Hah! Labour could never improve ANYTHING!! 😂 They take credit for the NHS although actually Churchill got the ball rolling on that and have rested on those laurels while trying to spend their way out of trouble ever since. Every so often the British electorate get utterly exasperated with the Tories and allow Labour to have a go. And almost immediately suffer buyer’s remorse!! 😂

[@guff9567]

@@andylewis7360 It's true. A cast iron fact, that Labour have ruined EVERYTHING British. Imagine if they'd tried to run WW2. Nelson's columns would be replaced with a stature of Adolf

[@khar12d8]

@@andylewis7360 I've voted Tory in the past but I think that's an insanely partisan opinion. Partisanship is what causes so many problems. Labour has improved things. And so have the Tories. And both parties get things wrong, too.

[@rcw3009]

In all honesty all of your progeny will be ended.

[@christopherbrookfield4785]

Virginia Woolf had a big nose. Surely, that is all anyone really needs to know. 😊🎉😮❤

[@ianramage1593]

Anyone with even a scintilla of intelligence could have foreseen the disastrous consequences of importing hundreds of thousands or millions of (mostly) young men from Muslim majority countries who lack education or any useful job skills. I recommend Douglas Murray's book The Strange Death Of Europe.

[@andylewis7360]

They’re intelligent alright. But they met this really charming princess from Uganda when they were at Oxford and every foreign person they meet is also high-status so they presume that every immigrant is just delightful. What’s more, we haven’t been breeding anywhere near quickly enough for them and that lovely Mrs Singh just popped out her 7th

[@AbAb-th5qe]

The PM did not migrate from India

[@andylewis7360]

He might as well have. He knows nothing of the lives of ordinary people. He doesn’t even know how a debit card works!!

[@AbAb-th5qe]

@@andylewis7360 Not to mention his visible contempt for democracy or even just everyone around him. Don't get me started. The mere thought of him makes me angry.

[@terencefield3204]

He only talks about hybrid funding. He says almost nothing about capacity and structure. Perhaps he knows nothing about that. In addition, the US has a universal system, with a choice to buy insurance or use public hospitals. Whose outturns are better than your NHS hospitals, so more ignorance. He is very unimpressive, but what do you expect from a bloke charge with running the system. Knowledge? Deep awareness of global systems? Not a chance. Plainly the NHS has been a rubbish Soviet style closed loop sys5em of supply and finance since the 40s and has been totally inadequate as a result. He never knew that? Garbage political operators as ever.

[@andylewis7360]

Quite so. But Labour would do worse

[@terencefield3204]

@@andylewis7360 WELL DONE!!! SO you have discovered that the Labour Party protects a crappy health care model!!! It only took you 78 years since the Second World War ended to realise they are Soviet light!!! Ten points and a star. SO What will you do, emigrate, or live there, if you do, and die young from neglect?? Choices choices.

[@johnderrick2501]

Who are these people ?

[@andylewis7360]

Numpties

[@russellsharpe288]

Sajid Javid looks about ten years younger with that beard.

[@andylewis7360]

Doesn’t make any more sense than he used to. Just a diversity hire at the end of the day. Shone brightly until he rebelled slightly and a brighter shining billionaire could be promoted.

[@jodypritchard5425]

Which nationality is Jonathan Miller?.....

[@terencefield3204]

For any British deranged enough to sneer at France, I have two words. And I utter them with respect and horror at what happened to that dear man: PC Blakelock 1985. Nothing more needs to be said.

[@tom4381]

To be fair all the Brits I speak to recognise that we are in the same boat as the French albeit behind them by few years.

[@terencefield3204]

@@tom4381 Good, maybe the arrogant Codswallop is confined to the journos and the like.

[@andylewis7360]

Well said! That honourable man’s name should be remembered more than Steven Lawrence.

[@andylewis7360]

@@tom4381Belgium is arguably ahead of France.

[@GolgeIncelemesi]

As an American, can Americans please stop speaking with so much vocal fry??

[@859902]

SJ is so correct about the sacred cow NHS which has become largely dysfunctional

[@bbslj9040]

The NHS is dysfunctional by design!!! It has been under attack for decades by both parties. Much money to be made by the few too tempting for morals and ethics!!

[@sisiphas]

Looking forward to a great program

[@RichardEnglander]

I look forward to the Great Progrom too, get it done and the border secure before this Age Of Migration really kicks off.

[@andylewis7360]

@@RichardEnglanderAHAHAHA! 😁👍🏻 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@sisiphas]

NHS uniquely (as far as I know) relies entirely on government funding. This is a strength and a serious weakness for the obvious and less obvious reasons.

[@robertcook2572]

Well, that was a very helpful analysis - thanks.

[@andylewis7360]

@@robertcook2572😂😂 One might even go so far as to say “forensic” 😂😂

[@davidtuer5825]

You've obviously thought deeply about the subject.

[@andylewis7360]

@@davidtuer5825 Pearls before swine 🤣

[@themycroft5894]

I cant wait to hear the opinion of some one who pushed medical tyranny and human experimentation.

[@guff9567]

Sounds like the NHS through and through to me

[@jh-oj7nb]

the fundamental problem with the nhs is the conservative party,the best intervention would be to shut down the tories once and for all

[@guff9567]

Tories tories , tories. N word,n word, n word

[@andylewis7360]

Well it might help if the Tories were actually conservative and not poundshop blairites.

[@alandean2]

Downplaying the French violence isn't going to solve the problem that these events are going to become more frequent and vicious. That coupled with politicians who won't admit that there is a problem is going to lead to the end of Western culture

[@andylewis7360]

Enoch Powell was right and those bastards will never admit it

[@realitychick4502]

“An honest assessment” yeah yeah … never trust anyone who repeats the word ‘Honest’ . This is a script parroted by a human with no empathy 😢

[@liammccann8763]

A 'local' health service existed in the UK prior to WW11. It was managed by local councils and had a history of assistance from the Church and volunteers. Prior to WW11, the 'household' was seen as an economic unit. That was replaced by the 'individual' becoming an economic unit which leaves little scope for goodwill in relation to volunteering. The present NHS model has around thirty years left and bold decisions will be required.

[@AchtungEnglander]

At the rate we are going we will probably have 11 world wars....

[@andylewis7360]

It will all crumble to dust. As planned

[@TessaTickle]

Andrew : "in France and Germany, the migrants are a lot more [homogenous]". Yes, Andrew, they're muslims. There's your problem right there.

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

How to deal with this? Closing the borders is a good start Pay people to leave the country Fill up the prisons Fix the schools

[@douglasmilton2805]

I can’t believe that a literary critic, or at least a book reviewer, can glibly admit that he hasn’t read Nancy Mitford’s The Pursuit of Love. Damned sewer!

[@ptcosmos]

This needs to be said, You are all seeking comfort not truth. be honest with yourselves

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

NHS needs to be shut down and replaced with a proper free market system, it'll be 80% cheaper and 100% better. (note the US doesn't remotely have a free market system).

[@andylewis7360]

Quite so

[@cthornback]

Andrew Neil looks quite ill.

[@guff9567]

Uncontrolled obesity. He does not have much time left

[@andylewis7360]

Mr Creosote

[@LindaAndrews-ly1qf]

12:50 16:49 18:08 19:19

[@patrickjoneill5836]

Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf?

[@johnmulvey5121]

When did Americans aquire the sing song accents that we hear all the time now . A few decades ago you 'd never hear that speech.

[@guff9567]

Nope. It's still grusomely grating

[@andylewis7360]

It’s an affectation. As are most American things

[@roberthumphreys7977]

The UK challenge with the NHS is similar to the US problem with Medicare and Medicaid: the citizenry the system serves is not healthy and much or most of the funding is spent on a very unhealthy elderly sector of the population. As a result, healthcare is focused almost entirely on cure rather than prevention. Couple this with a trend in the USA that deals with obesity as "fat shaming" rather than the long term health disaster that it is and you have a bleak future for healthcare outcomes and costs. Of course, for the healthcare system, which includes Big Pharma, the status quo is money in the bank long term. A very healthy population means lower spending on healthcare. Washington is awash in lobbyists whose remit is to ensure it never happens.

[@andylewis7360]

Well thanks for your diagnosis of the US healthcare system. Doesn’t get us much closer to a solution for Britain though, does it.

[@roberthumphreys7977]

@@andylewis7360 You have the same challenge: an aging population with a generally unhealthy life style. Nothing much can be done in the near term and the problem will get worse before it gets better. And, of course, lockdown just made it worse by causing delays in diagnosis, early detection, and treatment.

[@yuglesstube]

There are only three solutions for the NHS. Increase funding greatly, or means test access, or go hybrid private. Good luck getting elected on the second two, and good luck affording the first.

[@andylewis7360]

God!! Andrew Neil looks like Mr Creosote!!

[@futures2247]

every time you hear the world 'change' here regarding the NHS replace with privatisation.

[@andylewis7360]

And it wouldn’t be before time!

[@futures2247]

@@andylewis7360 if you can afford private health care its there for you. I'd rather pay more in taxes to fund the NHS properly. These privatised, corporatised systems appear to be driving human wellbeing and planetary resources off a cliff edge - greed is not good, greed is - an excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth.

[@ianparker1456]

Andrew Neil, Gbebies failure

[@OffGridNet]

Listening to these complacent commentators certainly made this writer want to go out and smash a few windows, join a gang maybe , anything to upset the smug consensus...

[@excaliburironforce9908]

Nobody gets away with anything

[@andylewis7360]

So true

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Riots in the UK are not improbably compared to France. As Andrew Neil states, we have invited many people from all over the world. We have done so without regard for the fact that Muslim Pakistanis hate Hindu & Sikh Indians. Turks hate Greeks, etc. We have already had riots over the outcome of a Pakistan vs India cricket match. We have had inter Muslim sect differences shut down cinema's. Showing one sects view of things, raised the ire of another sect. Having noted that there are different outcomes from different groups, have we adjusted our immigration policy accordingly. Of course not. Chinese might do well. Do we keep them out of sensitive classified research, because they may either be CCP spies or susceptible to pressure? Of course not.

[@guff9567]

Do you LIKE eating Chinese food? 😂

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

@@guff9567 Western Chinese food. Delicious. Real Chinese food, with some rare exceptions, it is pretty much disgusting. Steamboat, shudder. Not sure what relevance my food choices have to anything.

[@guff9567]

@@williamvorkosigan5151 Clearly you've NEVER been to China, because it's precisely the reverse of what you say

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

@@guff9567 My comment wasn't on Chinese cuisine. Yours was and after this I will discuss it no further. I have never been to china. I have lived in Brunei, Singapore and Malaysia since 2006. I have had Chinese work for me and have worked for Chinese. My wife works for a Chinese boss. I have nothing to say against them as a group other than their food frightens me. As my former boss, Chee Tor told me, if it has a spine that faces the sky, Chinese will eat it. If your idea of delicious is to pick your own live frog to boil in a Steam boat for your evening meal, then I am not going to argue with you. I was more than pleasantly surprised at pigs knuckle though. I wasn't looking forward to it but it was fantastic. Most of the things I would watch Chee Tor eat, while I politely had a coffee, I wouldn't feed my dog.

[@guff9567]

@@williamvorkosigan5151 Good luck getting that job at M15

[@BudFox575]

Privatize the NHS and maintain a state run health insurance

[@johnmoorefilm]

Growth in Europe, Andrew? Well, traditionally, war and “reconstruction’ are good for business?

[@SamOwen55]

Yeah I skipped Sajid. I don't care about anyhring that man has to say given his covid fanaticism. He then jumps ship when it's convenient. Horrid man.

[@merlingeikie]

Shocking intro.

[@robertcook2572]

These discussions are rubbish; no-one ever really says anything. What's the point of coming on here, pussyfooting round the subject and telling us that politicians don't know what to do? We know they don't!

[@guff9567]

You know it. Jobs for da boys.

[@andylewis7360]

Hahaha! Quite so. But you misunderstand the purpose of a politician. A politician is the most ambitious person alive who’s job is to make excuses for the policies that are decided by his superiors.

[@ostevoostevo1592]

Perhaps Ben Wallace could identify as a woman?

[@alice1374]

"Record amount of funding" Sajid lies out of his teeth he means the 2.4 billion that isn't "record-funding" what it is, is privatisation of the NHS. The companies that own stakes in the "National Health Service" keep a certain amount of profits in tax havens offshore. It was never meant to be privatised. I despise what Thatcher did so much to this day and with Blair, Brown keeping the status quo. They should've reversed the effects. Privatisation starts it never stops. I would have rather of had a yearly payment on NI for 5 or 10 for everyone that would rake in up to 600 million+ a year for the NHS.

[@andylewis7360]

Perhaps if there weren’t so many doctors who spoke such pitifully bad English that they’re incomprehensible the NHS wouldn’t be paying Billions in malpractice claims.