The ULTIMATE Mini Painting Setup

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Ninjon

Ninjon

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@VASM160689
@VASM160689 2 жыл бұрын
Let's appreciate that Jon has more paints at his place than some hobby stores.
@CourtneyVarner
@CourtneyVarner 2 жыл бұрын
That's because he bought them all.
@markpatterson766
@markpatterson766 2 жыл бұрын
And better ambient lighting than a GW/Warhammer store.
@steveisaak4320
@steveisaak4320 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is a LOT of paint. I wish I had a space like that
@jamescrawford8538
@jamescrawford8538 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ScaleModelMuse
@ScaleModelMuse 2 жыл бұрын
LOL I have the same paint problem...so much paint so little time
@RuthlessMojo
@RuthlessMojo 2 жыл бұрын
Ninjon even has lights to give himself a zenithal highlight. That's dedication.
@alfredincognito7678
@alfredincognito7678 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else here just love Ninjons intro? Like, it's so bad it's awesome? I always wait for that chair-twirl.
@empireempire3545
@empireempire3545 2 жыл бұрын
Its like the Emperor Palpatine in Return of the Jedi, but wacky
@ironreed2654
@ironreed2654 2 жыл бұрын
Ninjon is the correct level of awful to endearing for his level of KZbin.
@ramza813
@ramza813 2 жыл бұрын
he better not change that intro ever. or im unsubbing
@surtrpicks
@surtrpicks 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve paused in the goofy grin, it’s brilliant. Arteeeest!
@ramza813
@ramza813 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite is reaching for a paintbrush and then shaking it like ash and Evil Dead 2 does
@sigpi222
@sigpi222 2 жыл бұрын
A tip for oil paints in tubes and how to store/arrange them for easy visibility, I saw a someone use binder clips on the ends where it's crimped over, to effectively add loops that could then be hung from pegs. As you use the paint in the tube, roll up the end like toothpaste and reclip. Gives a nice visual for when a paint is running low too.
@puffins_apothecary
@puffins_apothecary 2 жыл бұрын
i used to be a traditional oil painter and this method works great, just make sure your caps are on nice and secure so they dont leak. I used command strips on the outside of my painting cabinet, and hang the clips off of them. Iv used this method for years without any issues.
@dv_xl
@dv_xl 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a video with a tutorial for this method I found kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKKkeYuprr98ldE
@VoltanIgnatio
@VoltanIgnatio 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to post this, great tip 👍
@linaelvira
@linaelvira 2 жыл бұрын
I do this with my water colour tubes, you can then get 3d printed multiple peg racks for pegboards and hang like that.
@billdefranza4927
@billdefranza4927 2 жыл бұрын
14:28 Clip the tubes with binder clips on the crimp end, then you can hang them up in your sightline in a row of tacks or hooks, or even a magnet bar like you'd use in a kitchen for knives.
@Nick-fh4wd
@Nick-fh4wd 2 жыл бұрын
Your painting set up is SO good. I most of all love the 3d printing area, the chair, and the weights.
@TheDreadGazeebo
@TheDreadGazeebo Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the actual racks/shelves that you have your paints on? I was hoping you'd cover that in the "how I store my paints" section...
@doskorg
@doskorg 2 жыл бұрын
I love how authentic your videos are, and as a casual hobbyist/painter you keep your videos easy to approach. I always feel like you will give your real feelings about a topic which I love! Also, bro you gotta stop buying paints 😂😂
@NyxErinyes
@NyxErinyes 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know more about the solutions you have for holding/displaying all of that paint. Those look really nice but I don't think you've ever commented on where they came from.
@PocketUnv
@PocketUnv 2 жыл бұрын
It really shows just how much thought and care you have put into that space, places like that are happy places.
@jescheffler
@jescheffler 2 жыл бұрын
Jon, this video is absolutely timely as I am currently setting up my painting area. The furnace filters behind the airbrush station are exactly what I needed to see as a solution to a problem I was trying to figure out how to handle. Thanks!
@jedi9935
@jedi9935 2 жыл бұрын
I will 100% back you up on a solid chair. I HAD A Herman Miller but just got an XL secret lab chair, and I've never been more comfortable at my hobby desk. I CAN EASILY get a few extra hours of sitting now. Great video!
@VoltanIgnatio
@VoltanIgnatio 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to post this also. Gaming chairs suck, but secret Lab is the exception. If your 6' +, I recommend the Titan
@jedi9935
@jedi9935 2 жыл бұрын
@Voltan Ignatio 100% that's the one I have I believe. I'm 6'2-6'3 depending on the time of day and I absolutely love this chair!
@Drag0nSlay3r83
@Drag0nSlay3r83 2 жыл бұрын
@@jedi9935 Im late to the party but I’m also throwing out support for the secret labs Titan.
@jedi9935
@jedi9935 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drag0nSlay3r83 hope you like it. Best chair I've owned so far
@austinthornhill7038
@austinthornhill7038 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for talking about the chair! A Herman Miller chair is absolutely worth the money. I'm lucky enough to work from home and my employer let me borrow one of these bad boys. Makes all the difference in being able to paint for a few hours versus only 30 minutes before getting uncomfortable. More people need this chair!
@Mr_Daso
@Mr_Daso 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the chair. I've had one for about twelve years now. Best money ever spent. My best upgrade to my Aeron has been my Atlas headrest (3rd party addon). Look it up, makes the chair oh so comfortable when you want to lean back and relax for a few minutes.
@metajock
@metajock 2 жыл бұрын
Always love seeing everyone else's setup. Adam Savage says that "Organization is a process...", so its good to see your's for new and better ideas. Thanks!!!
@MrVolvobloke
@MrVolvobloke 2 жыл бұрын
When I was young I didn't have anywhere to paint, so I used to paint lying on the floor with a cushion under my chest for support. I got so used to this that now at 55 I STILL paint lying on the floor with a cushion. Keeps my back dead straight and I've never had any back issues. Additionally it's great for elbow support.
@Gnarlf
@Gnarlf 2 жыл бұрын
Investing in a proper chair is absolutely the right call! Thanks for pointing that out. I don't know what your chair costs, but if it is good long lasting quality, then it is most certainly worth every penny of it. I got my DX Racer King Size almost a decade ago. During that timespan i would have had to buy several of the cheaper office chairs, becuase they always break down after 1-2 years andfrankly, they are not that comfortable at all anyway. In contrast, my chair is still holding strong. It sure looks worn and well used, but the cussins are still top, the technical parts are working well and I can sit on it propery supported. Yes it's a big chunk up front, but it will pay out in the long run.
@gager73
@gager73 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I've been wanting to build out a better paint workstation but been running into some hurdles in doing so. But then my wife walked in and saw yours and said how awesome your setup was and "you should build out that section of the garage like that." I think the major hurdle has been removed. :D
@terrydactyl2077
@terrydactyl2077 Жыл бұрын
I have a lower lumbar back injury that can be pretty nasty pain wise at times. As I’m renovating and building a new dedicated mini painting room I was wondering what to do for the desk. I too like a higher desk for painting and use a sit stand desk currently. It’s cheap and pretty wobbly so I don’t want to use it again. That means I’m thinking either build a dedicated desk or buy a more expensive sit stand one. I’ve considered a chair that can adjust the height for a stationary desk. But I just don’t know if that’s the best as I’m trying to do the “keep legs 90 degrees from butt to floor”. But perhaps that might not matter so much.
@Hakan-mz6pd
@Hakan-mz6pd 2 жыл бұрын
Quick tip for the Scale 75 artist range, Ikeas peg bord with its hookhangers are great for the tube paints, one hanger holds 12 tubes and kosts 1.5 dollars (in Sweden) peg board is about 20-30 dollars
@CoryG1981
@CoryG1981 2 жыл бұрын
thnks for that tour and showing off the hobby space Jon , its giving me alot of idea to get mine made so I can start slaying the grey and have fun .
@krzysztofmathews738
@krzysztofmathews738 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great setup. I like how you explain all of your decisions for how everything in chosen and arranged in your space.
@meledward231
@meledward231 2 жыл бұрын
Herman miller aeron, good choice. I have used an H&M mirra for years. Recently grabbed a Leap as well. A good chair for long sessions is a worth it imho.
@Finkeldinken
@Finkeldinken 2 жыл бұрын
That looks amazing! A nice way to have paint tubes up on the wall is to use bull clips. Clip them on the end of the tube and then hang them on a pegboard or something alike. A lot of watercolourists use that method.
@STOTTSPAWN
@STOTTSPAWN 2 жыл бұрын
So where did you get your pre-fabricated cabinets. I’m looking for additional storage, but I can’t find one I like your’s look nice especially the one at 1:12. I appreciate it if ya can point me in the right direction.
@INK_addict
@INK_addict 2 жыл бұрын
OH! That Furnace Filteer is a really good idea! Might give that a go myself? Can you please give me a Link to them, so i can see if i can find some options here in Europe. Thanks, Great Video as always!
@p-thor
@p-thor 2 жыл бұрын
When Jon talks about podcasts the only thing I can think of is "This is why you're wrong".
@bubbadoom1837
@bubbadoom1837 2 жыл бұрын
"Sure".
@Draculord666
@Draculord666 2 жыл бұрын
!
@sworntothelight
@sworntothelight 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! For paint tubes I used binder clips and a peg board to hang my paint tubes to save space in my last apartment it works well to hang the tubes in a way that you can see all of them in front of you.
@InTheRedShirt
@InTheRedShirt 2 жыл бұрын
Binder clips and nails on a nicely stained board are a great way to display paint tubes.
@noahbodhi8657
@noahbodhi8657 2 жыл бұрын
For tubes hanging binder clips work perfectly.
@steveharrison76
@steveharrison76 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree about the higher desk level meaning that you force the body to retain a good posture. I have injury-induced scoliosis, and I found painting at a conventional desk to eventually become incredibly painful after a time; I put a dining chair at the kitchen counter (I live alone, so I’m not inconveniencing anyone else) and it’s much, much better. An underrated tip!
@MidwinterMinis
@MidwinterMinis 2 жыл бұрын
04:30 100% relatable. Nessa does drive-by gassing on the regular.
@ipwndcancer
@ipwndcancer 2 жыл бұрын
I saw smoke coming from the light on your airbrush station and got scared... This video scratches an itch for me, though. I'm a very mise en place kind of person so having a place for everything and everything in its place is satisfying. Can't wait to do that once I get more space!
@ThYr0N
@ThYr0N Жыл бұрын
Same I also saw smoke ^^
@corbin1680
@corbin1680 8 ай бұрын
It's the incense he lit prior to that lol
@mattbrown1306
@mattbrown1306 2 жыл бұрын
The recycled cool whip container is the most Minnesota thing! Good for 3d printing supplies or leftover hot dish.
@jl7487
@jl7487 16 күн бұрын
awesome space, but I do believe that airpurifiers do not clear the harmful particles from the air? At least that is what most safety threads are saying.
@JohnVanderbeck
@JohnVanderbeck Жыл бұрын
Be careful with those resin printers. Your air purifier isn't going to do ANYTHING for the VOCs/HCHO they release. You need activated carbon for that.
@sniperlemming
@sniperlemming 2 жыл бұрын
i used some folding tables for my hobby space and the height is certainly a problem for my back, i am going to seriously consider kitchen counters and cabinets if i upgrade the space.
@TheBoogerwookie
@TheBoogerwookie 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've seen that goes through the gear end of it. Thanks so much for sharing all the secrets of your studio!
@DementedDistraction
@DementedDistraction Жыл бұрын
Good call on the chair, after wasting far too much time and money on crappy office chairs from Staples, Office Depot, etc... I finally invested in a Herman Miller Embody 2 years ago and the difference has been astounding.
@catvetter7030
@catvetter7030 2 жыл бұрын
Aspiring mini painter who also loves nail polish. I also find that I'm reaching for the polishes that are openly displayed over the ones that are tucked away. Wish I had the space to showcase all my paints and polishes.
@Wijkert
@Wijkert 2 жыл бұрын
Most definitely agree on the spending the most on your chair message. Also, please go with an office chair like Jon did. Way better than gaming chairs.
@bigfil1981
@bigfil1981 Жыл бұрын
I have a Herman Miller Lido, best investment ever! I basically have the same setup but with IKEA office stuff and height extenders.
@Paladin_Painting
@Paladin_Painting Жыл бұрын
at 3:37 in the corner of the table, what do you have in the void between those 3 drawers and the thin cabinet/drawer? did you just build a frame to support or does it not need one? where the side of those 2 pieces are enough support for the tabletop/your stuff there.
@Frostyeel
@Frostyeel 2 жыл бұрын
I need something like your solution for holding the soflat bottles. They're awkwardly large and I just have them taking up space on my work surface
@jabberwok777
@jabberwok777 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great breakdown of the mindset behind the setup. I have just one question; what was happening with the audio?
@jackcampbell4465
@jackcampbell4465 2 жыл бұрын
Something I never see in hobby setup videos--a fire extinguisher.
@justanothercaptain6566
@justanothercaptain6566 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your hobby space. I absolutely love these sort of videos. I got some great tips, especially with your airbrush set up! I’m ready to get one, but didn’t know how ventilate my space. You just showed me how to get around it! Thank you! Cheers 🍻
@222gordon
@222gordon 2 жыл бұрын
That is one impressive printing and painting shop, very informative and I've picked up some good tips, thanks Ninjon. I was particularly impressed by the weights. I need to exercise more. I've been meaning to join a gym but I can't find one with a decent restaurant and bar 😉😉
@RodneyRockwell
@RodneyRockwell 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon! For a way to store your Scalecolor Artist paints on the walls you can use a bulletin board and thumb tacks. On the back end of the tubes you put those lil black binder clips, and they’ll hang nicely. You can make a bulletin board that suits your space without too much difficulty from a lot of what I’ve seen.
@KitWessendorf
@KitWessendorf 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m setting up a similar space in my basement. What do you use for your paint racks? I’ve looked a different fingernail polish racks, but I’m curious to what you prefer.
@Reebthgil
@Reebthgil 2 жыл бұрын
i love your work space! my wife and I just bought our house over by fleet farm and im currently working on putting my craft/hobby/office space together. I can never keep mine organized like you do lol, love your videos!
@DarksouIjah
@DarksouIjah 2 жыл бұрын
The filter behind the booth is good enough? Especially if Mr color leveling thinner and what not? I don’t have a window to ventilate my hobby room. So I have to use my garage where I have to move my cars. Unfold a table and move try paints from the room to the garage every time I use the airbrush and I really don’t want to but some of the stuff I use has strong fumes.
@chillchinna4164
@chillchinna4164 3 ай бұрын
Belated, but it probably works fine for acrylics, but fumes and toxic materials should absolutely be ventilated properly. The acrylic paint partials will mostly be caught by the filters and all. Fumes don't work the same way.
@DarksouIjah
@DarksouIjah 2 ай бұрын
@@chillchinna4164 Thanks for your response. I took care of it and did a makeshift air filter
@jhontompsan365
@jhontompsan365 2 жыл бұрын
A good display solution for paint tubes like the scale artist colors is to bulldog clip the bottom of the tube, put some nails in a board/existing display rack and then use the clips to hang the tubes
@necpwnz
@necpwnz 2 жыл бұрын
Some paint racks have bottom row of horizontal hooks to hang some paint tubes. You could order some custom rack with only hooks for tubes, it will look great on the wall I think.
@kumarsalib722
@kumarsalib722 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the stool conversion for the Aeron. It will raise the height enough to be a better match for your counter.
@brandonwestfall3241
@brandonwestfall3241 2 жыл бұрын
+1 for Herman Miller, I've had mine for 20 years, by far the most comfortable chair I've ever sat in
@aarongray7966
@aarongray7966 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, are those the AP master colours for the new speedpaints on your desk? I look forward to seeing what paints you develop with them!
@Ssking1985
@Ssking1985 2 жыл бұрын
Jon I would love to know more about those different paint racks, particularly the ones for dropper bottles. Can you recommend any products that might be attainable in Australia??
@wyrdcatgaming9898
@wyrdcatgaming9898 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad i saw your Hoppe's #9 for your airbrush lube. I was thinking about using rem oil.
@josetrevino7143
@josetrevino7143 Жыл бұрын
I think I will totally do the kitchen base and laminate idea as well! Thanks for this vid!
@piotrjeske4599
@piotrjeske4599 Жыл бұрын
Well it does seem better then using a fold chair while sitting on a bed. Also the room is like 2/3ed the size of a regular 36square meter flat here.
@Balyrion
@Balyrion 2 жыл бұрын
A tip for tabletops, if you have a lumberyard in the area check for hardwood tabletop seconds. I got two Maple tabletops as seconds at a fantastic price and they will handle anything both shop work and mini work can throw at them.
@liberalhyena9760
@liberalhyena9760 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and exemplary organisation. The only thing you held back about is where Darrell keeps his gear. I’m guessing it’s under his bed, and possibly on it.
@mcspiffington
@mcspiffington 2 жыл бұрын
05:15 I have had to move my pc and painting desk into completely different parts of my house for this exact reason. I never used to get anything done because i would sit down to paint, 'oh i need to put some music/podcasts on' half an hour later im still sat there and now im looking at .stl files and wheeeeeeeeeeee
@wj_owen
@wj_owen 2 жыл бұрын
Thats is Awesome. Got some great ideas to upgrade my own space. Those display cubes..... Brilliant.
@GlodansYT
@GlodansYT 2 жыл бұрын
Jon for the paint tubes you keep forgetting about in the draw you could get a hanging rack for them. The sort of with prongs sticking out that fit around the neck of the tube.
@Alex-mo6zy
@Alex-mo6zy 2 жыл бұрын
Why is there smoke coming out of your airbrush station at 8:02?
@Mekhami
@Mekhami 2 жыл бұрын
lmao good catch what is this
@jasontrinque
@jasontrinque 2 жыл бұрын
I think that is the incense just tucked onto the other side of the spray booth.
@danbrown4420
@danbrown4420 2 жыл бұрын
That isn't smoke, it's steam. From the steamed clams.
@Khoriakei
@Khoriakei 2 жыл бұрын
you can add levels to your display with cable locks and extra glass plates
@Boonedale
@Boonedale Жыл бұрын
I would love to know how much and how long it took to make the paint station you have.
@derekgarcia3069
@derekgarcia3069 2 жыл бұрын
Love your space! While I don't need most of it as I don't make videos or have 3d printers, I think the idea of kitchen cabinets and counters is fantastic and probably much more efficient than multiple desks. Consider me sold!
@droory
@droory 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jon, I'm recently falling back into the hobby and all your videos have been great at priming me for whenever I do start back into it. I do have one question/idea for a video if you haven't already covered it before. How does one start with actually getting paints, with all the different brands and types and even just shades it makes it quite daunting for trying to pick paints even with a colour scheme in mind unless you're willing to just throw money at paints and hope for the best. Would love to hear if you've any advice about it, keep up the great work.
@Zadster
@Zadster 2 жыл бұрын
All the UK modellers LOLing at how Jon has a bigger modelling area than the entire area of most people's houses over here.
@alexrunzel6532
@alexrunzel6532 2 жыл бұрын
Showing off that desk chair when the real flex is the experimental speedpaints on the desk
@christopherelfrink4810
@christopherelfrink4810 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing for this video: I'm working towards finally getting my painting area out of my home office and into its own space.
@SlaveToChaos
@SlaveToChaos 2 жыл бұрын
Id love to get more info on how you customized your Deltof case. Patio Padding? Do you cut it to size from the large cubes? how do you attach it etc. You set up looks great and if as you claim can also keep dust out, I will have to get one sooner than later
@JohnVanderbeck
@JohnVanderbeck Жыл бұрын
Curious what cabinets/tabletop you used. I looked at something very similar at Ikea thinking it would be cheap and it ended up pricing out around $1500 just for two cabinets and a countertop! For that money I could get a solid Uplift or Fully adjustable desk.
@landrecce
@landrecce 14 күн бұрын
Dude this is really really awesome! Thanks so much for teaching this!
@octosink
@octosink 2 жыл бұрын
Ninjon, can you put a link or the brand of furnace filters you use for your airbrush booth? Are they just standard filters?
@johnsimeonidis7518
@johnsimeonidis7518 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I found it extremely helpful! I'm starting to setup my space to include airbrushing and I keep hearing that having a compressor with an air tank is a must. I noticed your compressor is a grex brand (which I hear is great) but it doesn't have a tank. Can you comment on your experience? My airbrushing is just a hobby level for painting minis/figs.
@oddrknot4
@oddrknot4 11 ай бұрын
My biggest challenge is finding a reliable and durable chair. I find most chairs I have bought last 1-2 years tops and then the bottom welding job fails (the piece that allows the chair to flex backwards). Outside of that I still am seeking a magnifying glass. Preferably one that has a flexible pose body & a vice grip for attaching to a table.
@Neoit0
@Neoit0 2 жыл бұрын
I have an almost identical airbrush tub! It's easily the best thing I've added to the setup and makes me much more likely to get the airbrush out, especially just for a quick job.
@Fondyr
@Fondyr 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ninjon, I've watched a bunch of your vids and in one or two of them you recommended different white and metallic paints than citadel, but I can't remember which video's. Can you tell me which ones you find better?
@Fetapeter
@Fetapeter 2 жыл бұрын
where did u get your storage solutions for your paints? They are awesome!
@aerynmusick4548
@aerynmusick4548 2 жыл бұрын
In addition to a dumbbell which I have around, I got these things called alpha grips which you can use to exercise your forearms and combat carpal tunnel, they’re super helpful.
@thewartoad9891
@thewartoad9891 2 жыл бұрын
What about the paint racks? Did you make them or buy them?
@adambuchinski1585
@adambuchinski1585 2 жыл бұрын
@ninjon no paint racks listed in the description? I'd love to see a video on your paint racks in particular, some of them look super good.
@dalle5
@dalle5 Жыл бұрын
the black painting racks you have on the wall. What brand are they? Thanks for sharing
@albertreed966
@albertreed966 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Set up! About those lighted shelves on the wall, I didn't catch what you said about them and where they came from and didn't see them in the...Show more lists can you clarify that in a future post?
@amazonamazon4872
@amazonamazon4872 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, theres a name thrown out there i havent heard in a loooong time or often, jack johnson, amazing surfer and amazing musician.
@glennylebeau4492
@glennylebeau4492 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, what is that you are using to cover the desk surface? I am currently using my kitchen bench and was looking for a good way to protect the worktop. Thanks.
@gavherron3714
@gavherron3714 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jon, great video! Do you use any sort of extractor fan for your resin printer or its it all done with the air purifier?
@tjmmachine
@tjmmachine 2 жыл бұрын
Bit late but a great way to display oil tubes is to use bulldog clips on the tail end to hang them up.
@samsam5066
@samsam5066 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse me sir, are you using pew cleaner as an airbrush thinner?🤔
@gearshiv
@gearshiv 2 жыл бұрын
Hold up you can use hoppes #9 gun cleaner as airbrush lube?
@Gateseleven
@Gateseleven Жыл бұрын
what's the smoke coming out the pain station?? the aroma stick?
@dokool
@dokool 2 жыл бұрын
No extra ventilation for the resin printers? 🤔
@grey_planet_hobbies
@grey_planet_hobbies 2 жыл бұрын
What is the stuff you used to dust proof ur display NinJon
@Ricksteady8
@Ricksteady8 2 жыл бұрын
looks like several glass cabinets.
@marklabouchere2301
@marklabouchere2301 2 жыл бұрын
Sick space! Serious life goals. I am in a much smaller “closet area but I am inspired to make some adjustments
@donbeaner1
@donbeaner1 2 жыл бұрын
What about a link to your paint displays/shelves?
@lostspyder
@lostspyder 2 жыл бұрын
Ninjon -- would you get the same air purifier if you had to buy again? I want to pick one up but that price is steep.
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