The UNTOLD Story of Kenyon's Brawl With George Karl

[@blaxson10]

I don't think Ive ever heard a single former player of Karl say something good about that man. Not one!

[@33Cinxo]

Literally not one 😂

[@SLIMDIESAL23]

NOONE !!! lol

[@NubSaiboty]

I think Gary Payton has said it

[@DemonKingBadger]

Payton and I think Kemp sort of did one time.

[@dfrank4life]

Thank you!

[@Jab-Cajun91]

George Karl wrote in his book about how Melo needed his father’s guidance (paraphrasing here). The problem with that is that Melo’s pops died when he was barely 3 years old. Habitual line stepper is an understatement. Maybe even a compliment!

[@spicsta]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Itsxmusic]

Karl was what you call a friendly racist.

[@Winnerzcircle1]

That friendly racist bs don't fly in my world​@@Itsxmusic

[@Itsxmusic]

@@Winnerzcircle1 it doesn’t fly in mine either I just said “friendly” because they think we don’t notice

[@Winnerzcircle1]

@@Itsxmusic facts!

[@shawna7813]

All the players hate George Karl. Even NBA good guys like Ray Allen and Kendell Gill...

[@DemonKingBadger]

The players he has thrown under the bus would make quite an All-Star team

[@Grind2Excellence]

Ray Allen was a gentleman

[@GrandT343]

Francisco scored 0 points and grabbed 4 rebounds in those games. Karl was losing games out of spite?

[@travisknowledge6915]

Big Reason why Carmelo doesn’t have a ring smh

[@zenkai8247]

​@@travisknowledge6915 Idk, I honestly think Melo didn't care for winning a chip as long as he was the main attraction for his team

[@BigDilf3]

@@zenkai8247that still don’t mean he didn’t have the chance

[@chearoyewun1186]

@@zenkai8247 that's you just drinking the fucking kool-aid and adopting a false narrative

[@trevonemurry1382]

There it is,

[@ericlutz7939]

If kmart said he was crying , bro karl lucky to be able to walk.

[@charlesjohnson536]

GEORGE KARL: 'IM A START FRANCISCO' .. KENYON: 'IN THE PLAYOFFS??' ..

[@robert-h2x]

and? kenyon was injured and old

[@BruceKendallMartinJr]

yet still better than Francisco and Eduardo ​@@robert-h2x

[@ineffabilecommentatorealto7507]

@@robert-h2x he wasn't even 29...

[@Bob-From-Marketing11]

George Karl was a habitual line stepper with his players

[@albertol9654]

Gary Payton has never said anything bad about Karl and Gary was a goon. Kmart probably mad coz Karl was an old school coach and he wanted a "hip" yes man coach.

[@boomshakalaka8567]

The only players with problems with him were all fatherless ghetto little shits. Gary Payton spoke highly of George Karl. So I'll take his word for it over this fucking thug that would be dead in a ditch without the NBA.

[@RoscoeButtocks]

Oh so you were there to see it 🧐 man stfu

[@cameronpalmer401]

@@albertol9654or Gary and George got along, Kenyon most of George’s other players don’t seem to have nice things to say about him.

[@drodadreads]

@@albertol9654 not you taking up for george "kmart and melo didnt have fathers" karl

[@Murchasm]

"I didn't recruit these dudes that can't dribble" had me rolling.

[@sneezy-e]

Dermarr Johnson and Kenny Sattersfield couldn’t dribble?

[@novelaego2404]

@ sneezy-e Dermarr couldnt kenny was saucy

[@frankwhytejr.1367]

I've never heard any player that's been coached by George Karl have a single good thing to say about him. Not one.

[@soulbrotha24]

Not one. Everyone hated that man.

[@dwoodstwin]

Never

[@SidLaw500]

I've never seen Kenyon this entertaining. It was cool to see things through his perspective. Great energy and humor.

[@MIGGYME1]

This also shows why he wont be a hall of famer or why he didnt make the all star games consistently,poor attitude.You cant treat your coaches like that. George karl didnt specifically say KENYON needs to rebound more,he said WE. I know everybody likes to find humor in these stories and thats fine but if u dig a lil deeper you really get to see which players hampered their teams whether it was on the floor or off of it

[@SidLaw500]

I've been aware of Kenyon since he was in college. It's been common knowledge that he was a hot head and looked at with some disfavor by many, including me. But age tends to soften people, and I sense that is the case with Kenyon. @@MIGGYME1

[@theinktician]

@@MIGGYME1 the other primary rebounder had above his average too! 11 boards! The dude was mad about shots that were bouncing to the perimeter in the hands of guards and tying that to the reason they lost instead of adjusting like a coach should

[@Virtualcritic111]

@@MIGGYME1if he would’ve stayed in the east he would’ve been a all star more

[@MIGGYME1]

@@Virtualcritic111 no he wouldnt

[@rael6974]

K-Mart went to two Finals with the Nets Karl coached one finals in the 90s and got let go after winning coach of the year with Denver. Enough said.

[@NatTurnerswitBurnerz]

Silly to compare a coach and a player. But as long as you are, Karl is far more accomplished as a coach than Martin as a player.

[@4ssistant569]

@@NatTurnerswitBurnerzalso far more of a disappointment

[@The_M0st_High]

​hell no. FOH😂😂😂😂

[@P715R]

Kidd was why Nets made it. K Mart was a one trick pony who stunk it up in the finals. Then blamed Keith Van Horn!!!

[@rael6974]

@@P715R K Mart had to guard Shaq who did Keith Van Horn guard? Fck George Karl

[@Tmb31]

These comments are wild. George (from players’ perspectives) was the ultimate disrespectful person. Too many guys talk about him in a negative way- that they have never spoken about other coaches. 🤷

[@tphoyas]

GIL: "was that the only one?" KMART: "Yeah" GIL: "That says a lot..."

[@tphoyas]

I really believe Karl was a "handler". Given HC jobs to make sure certain teams/players underachieve...Thibbs, DAntoni, Doc Rivers , etc...

[@rayford5127]

​@@tphoyasI like that logic

[@MrJbee73]

Sounds right​@@tphoyas

[@tphoyas]

@@MrJbee73 his post career actions reinforces my theory. He's showing his true colors and players speaking on it...

[@giombi15]

I knew George Karl was on demon time when he published his tell all book 😂

[@keymusabe7207]

Another “⚪️” that wan to control history as “his story”

[@CellHam]

😂😂😂

[@ADRPLREVIEW]

Kenyon outfit so clean 🔥

[@jg2187]

he got on eyeliner

[@jtremaine23]

Pretty good memory....17 boards in 2006 against the Cavs and that same year, he sits out those 3 playoff games against the Clippers.

[@chemistryphysics716]

they prep before the podcast bro. They know the topics. the clown with the computer starts reading off topics and questions and they all act like they surprised and then get into it. They already know what the topics are and did a little research on it already.

[@jtremaine23]

@@chemistryphysics716He must not have done as good of research as Eddie had 12 rebounds instead of 11 that game. That’s why I said pretty good and not very good memory. Plus most stories on all podcasts or whatever are usually off some when they tell them. They may know the topic but not necessarily researching it like that to remember exactly.

[@oceanhudson]

@@chemistryphysics716half of these pods ain’t quite what you think it is … some of it is organic and not all of it is fact checked . sometimes , they just remember and recall .

[@CellHam]

​​@@chemistryphysics716Why is he a clown ? That means you're must be one as well 😂👉 🤡

[@MrJbee73]

​@chemistryphysics716. Eggggggggzactly

[@est.inthe80s]

I believe George Karl was a hater but I also believe Kenyon was ultra confrontational as well and when you got a hot head player and a power hungry coach it won’t mix

[@thewhitedevilfromthebible5899]

You’re making excuses for George !! Tell me your white without saying it

[@lasagna3106]

@@thewhitedevilfromthebible5899relax cheesedick

[@stacktownent2055]

Lexi Said “!Hell Nah “ 😂😂😂

[@melsonleon]

Had me weak 😂

[@elliotsmithers7682]

“I packed all my shxt…next year had to go right back” 🤣🤣🤣

[@LembeckIsStaying]

GP and Kemp don't even speak on Karl, let that sink in lol.

[@charlieboo1830]

Kemp was also a major coke head . So yeah .

[@eliporter3980]

​@@charlieboo1830that coke head was a 6x All-Star. Show some respect.

[@DJSpotG]

@@eliporter3980OJ Simpson was a 5 time all star do you show him respect also ?

[@eliporter3980]

@@DJSpotG hell yeah OJ is the man. Plus he was proven innocent in a court of law.

[@kojirod.dragon3724]

@@DJSpotGYea, OJ the goat.

[@isaiahhardy1477]

The way Lexi said “He’ll na”🤣

[@donaldgeorge2014]

Sorry, but has anyone bothered to look at Kenyon's career stats, especially in Denver? He acts like him sitting was like putting Kobe or Michael on the bench.

[@mwballers]

And how do those numbers compare to Fransiaco Elson's? 🤣

[@andrelong1410]

There’s a reason why George ain’t coaching no more

[@gamble777888]

I mean, he's 72

[@mentalprograming5365]

@@gamble777888greg popvich is 75

[@gamble777888]

@@mentalprograming5365 Second oldest coach in the NBA is 66. I don't think there's been more than 3 or 4 coaches to ever coach past 70. (Nelson, Wilkins, Pop... I think that's it). Phil Jackson didn't coach past 65. George Karl last coached at age 65, he coached 36 years with .588% win % is 6th all time in wins at 1,175 games. Safe to say whatever his issues were dealing with players, the main reason he isn't coaching is because he was old and washed, not because of his altercations.

[@DemonKingBadger]

​@@mentalprograming5365 popovich shouldn't be coaching at this point either

[@standaman1963]

​@@DemonKingBadgerFacts

[@A-A-RonDavis2470]

Huge ego thing, but I'm also gonna give the benefit of the doubt that George had also been horrible to him for a long time and that just set him off. If that was a result of mostly one incident, then there was no justification for that. Kenyon should've got outta there a lot earlier because it's obvious that he couldn't play for Denver.

[@EpsilonKeyXIV]

George Karl has a known jerk and most of the players who played under him have called him out as such. It says a lot when even Ray Allen had beef with him. No other coach writes a "tell-all" book talking about how "Melo & Kenyon needed their fathers to show them how to act like a man", unprompted.

[@A-A-RonDavis2470]

@@EpsilonKeyXIV Yeah, I knew of how bad he was. It explains Kenyon's outburst, but I don't see why he stayed for all those winless seasons with bad leaders and a bad coach.

[@talklesslistenmore5578]

​@@A-A-RonDavis2470 because he a lot of talk

[@jlamedia744]

This dude college tape was effin nuts

[@aithier]

Facts! My favorite college ball player

[@raphaelhilliard1160]

Shit his nba tape 2

[@jcchambers7896]

Seriously his highlights are alien like he had a different bounce then everybody his son got it to genes are crazy I wonder was his dad a high flyer 🤔

[@Tyweezy84]

Shit was Insane. K mart was a BEAST in college

[@edwardburgess5889]

Kenyon Martin , has the absolute Best “ almost” fight stories. Definitely the toughest man alive with no wins & no losses fighting

[@nickb.6726]

He even tried to fight Richard Jefferson…K-Mart was always angry at somebody

[@phyuckyuu9601]

And, people wonder why, them DENVER Teams were LETDOWNS.

[@nydibs]

Nobody wonders, Melo proved he was not a winner. He had the most success under George Karl

[@DemonKingBadger]

Or the 90s Sonics

[@lionface1364]

They want to blame it all on Melo but Karls approach was more damaging imo

[@Hawkeyes319]

@@nydibsbro who were Melo’s teammates that were supposed to help him beat those teams in the West?

[@JmedleyMusik]

@@nydibsno… Melo won in the Olympics and in college. Karl was losing games on purpose per K-Mart

[@rio9503]

Lexie, you ever had a situation... "hell, nah!" 🤣🤣

[@Ben2bwild]

I've never heard any player say something good about George Karl

[@Nawalta]

It’s crazy but yeah, I’ve thought the same thing. I feel like GP and Kemp are maybe a little more complimentary of him, no? It’s not like they shower him with praise but I don’t get the same vibe from them as I get from the Denver guys.

[@Ben2bwild]

@@Nawalta they just don't talk about him. You heard GP and Kemp praise him?

[@jsdzx]

I’m not a Phil Jackson fan.. but Karl is the reason you can’t just say Phil won cause he had the talent. This mfer outside of Doc Rivers have coached so many superstars with what one finals appearance. My biggest issue is his lack of accountability. It ain’t just them

[@TheDizi330]

That Cincy v Xavier was serious business🔥🔥

[@drewbranch7700]

He killed me with “you recruited them” 👀🤣🤣🤣

[@justmyopinion8395]

I’m not sure why the Kings front office thought it was a good idea to bring George Karl in to coach Boogie. Yet they fired Mike Malone in the middle of one of their best seasons in a decade.

[@mikemcgrath6150]

Kmart definitely seems like the sort of guy any organization would want in the room. A real asset of positivity and leadership.

[@MKDAVIS323]

George Karl was the Bill Laimbeer of his time when he played. He was known to fight and for being an asshole. He was involved in the longest team fight in ABA/NBA History between the Spurs & the Nets back in the 70s. Refs let them rock out for over 20 mins and he started it!

[@bisrat9329]

Love K-Mart, but the fact that he’s still proud of his playing day behavior makes no sense. Grow up man

[@albertol9654]

Facts.. He always seems bitter.

[@kvnlien07]

Still living in the past

[@francisikwueme1688]

No wonder he and Stephen Jackson get a long . A bunch of immature hood grown men that can never self regulate their emotions

[@kennygsmooth83]

You clearly don't watch the show enough. Kmart speaks multiple times on how Stern had a chat with him on his career being cut short of he didn't get his behavior in check. He admitted he had to do a lot of maturing.

[@juswolf22]

I couldn’t play wit someone like Kenyon we gone scrap bruh. You can’t jus talk reckless wit me

[@billydakid601]

Well you wouldn't last long in the league then especially in those days.

[@pauldeveaux1517]

Kenyon Martin is funny, clever and a great storyteller; so different than the way he has been portrayed by the media over the years

[@860phantom7]

If it wasn't a alley oop K-mart wasnt scoring

[@dme1236]

He Had A Slight Middy For A Second 😂

[@860phantom7]

@@dme1236 respect

[@TheKingOfAllTrades]

As a long time Denver Nuggets fan, KMart is one of my favorite Nuggets of all time.

[@TedJames-e7c]

Way to be professional Kenyon 😂

[@jonathanwalter3075]

Not playing after being injured isn’t a reason to get that crazy. That was a build up over the season. Had to be. K mart from my hood. BA high school Dallas tx. I know how we coming. lol his stories are legendary

[@MrBmick79]

I heard they had a "hit a white boy day" over at Bryan Adams when Kmart was going to school there

[@jsdzx]

@@MrBmick79, I went to Gaston Middle School. Sure as fuck did. Hat day was a nightmare. That was my introduction to bloods and crips. I had on a all red air Jordan hat. That shit had to get put away quick lol .

[@DaYoungestVet]

Love hearing K-Mart tell his stories

[@NotoriousSSV]

Melo & Kenyon shittin on Karl in the same week is funny as hell I wanna see them link & shit on him together 😂 gotta hear some "Thuggets" stories.

[@unmokable]

For every player publicly saying something about Karl, there are 5 more guys that have been silently talking about him for years. Never anything good. Shocked me years ago but not so much now

[@tonybayarea]

Kenyon said he emptied his locker and was back on that same team the next season. Could only imagine having to go back to a team you don't wantvto be on anymore. Everyone in the locker room knows that dont want to be there and you show up that next season 😂.

[@charlieboo1830]

I mean George Karl sounds like a tough annoying coach to deal with . But you can’t get childish over who he starts , and how many minutes you get .

[@atSlickBoiChris]

You talking from the outside bruh. If you was a proving starter and was benched for a bum you would be angry also

[@kiddquinn2201]

U sound dumb asf

[@timjacobs2487]

Not giving a coach a pass but K. Mart being upset he not starting wasn’t a reason to want to fight. That’s ego being hurt nothing more.

[@courtneyjeffries390]

Yeah I remember seeing that on ESPN with KMart and Coach Huggins.

[@DansChessLounge]

Kenyon Martin always been the type to Stand on Business! I’ve been following him since his college days at UC.

[@DOZAiNDAAREA]

Get off his meat

[@itsthatatm8345]

My second favorite PF behind Shawn Kemp, dude was undersized and a damn DAWG!!!

[@jimmytheweasel857]

K-Mart was roid rage'n at George Karl lmao

[@ErnestRamirez-x5y]

K-Mart was one of those players I hated, but also liked at the same time. I enjoyed watching him play

[@dukec2255]

Man the nuggets were the second best team behind the lakers in 09 and 2010. Just happen to run into prime Kobe

[@calilugas_psychiatrist]

I was a Nugget fan at the time and from 2005 to 2006, Kenyon had micro-fracture surgery on both knees. his body was failing him and he was in a very bad mental space at the time. not too many coaches want to deal with that when trying to win playoff games. to make matters worse, the Clippers defensive strategy was to collapse on Melo and make the Nuggets beat them from the outside, which made K-Mart a liability. so it was a perfect storm.

[@dfrank4life]

A REAL 🗣TOUGH GUY!

[@mukhanglarochannel4774]

Kenyon was an all star level in NJ. But he was the worst when he played with Denver. If he is not injured, he gets ejected. That's why nobody wants him after Denver and he was crying about it.

[@3PTBall]

Kenyon just exposed himself for being incredibly emotional

[@jonhenrychris6973]

He does it every episode with his im so tough act

[@cheighes1]

Latrell Sprewell changed the league with PJ. For the better.

[@KClouisville]

By committing premeditated assault? Lol. Okay.

[@honust2069]

1 Time all star. 113 Million. Detriment to every team he was on.

[@Rico-Suave]

Kenyon has a severely toxic attitude and I don't think he knows it which is the sad part.

[@manuelogando6063]

Which playoff games is he talking about ? In 2006 ?

[@philipmehl9355]

Fighting a coach because you don’t like your minutes is a bit thuggish. These guys are children and the opposite of role models. Yeah Karl might have been an ahole, but coaches should start who they want to start until they’re fired.

[@travisknowledge6915]

George Karl is 100% responsible for Melo never playing in a finals

[@Daniel_Capital]

Can’t let you get away with that one, Melo is most responsible for what he did or didn’t accomplish, which is why he never made it anywhere else he played either. Melo didn’t play defense and was too inefficient offensively. Those are facts. Always wanna find a white man to blame and give zero accountability to our brothers. Gary Payton made it to the finals just fine with george karl while being defensive player of the year. Funny how that works

[@johnnybraxton5539]

Latrell sprewell is the man and played no games

[@tphoyas]

We blessed KMart conquered the stuttering....loved dude since the Cincinnati days. Always thought George Karl was overrated

[@Dee-wp3ul]

If he would’ve accepted the role, maybe they would’ve won. Sometimes you not the best against certain line ups.

[@HoopsRaccoon]

How old are you? I watched that series. GK was wrong.

[@calioumarx4289]

Wat role this guy was the best defensive player in the team

[@Megaalith]

@@HoopsRaccoon He did the same shit in Milwaukee

[@MikeLocke]

Kenyon with his stories, classic!

[@dame5918]

George Karl players didn’t like him for all you people talking about Kenyon was unprofessional or what ever … listen there were tough coaches like Riley and popovich that had situations with players however players respected those coaches… because Riley and pop don’t disrespect the players and treat them like shit…. Karl did he had no respect…

[@sheltonvincent007]

This "good ol boy" Karl seemed to have a stong resentment for "certain" players.

[@kehubbard4386]

This is the Kenyon Therapy session. A True Alpha Male...Respect

[@james7ch]

The head coach is supposed be o be a consummate professional. Too many players say George Karl was NOT that coach. Sad!

[@queenskid79]

This is why sports media is slowly dying and player controlled media is growing because players aren’t ever going to feel this comfortable talking them.

[@LAMEXAME]

Kenyon was a dunce playing with the Nuggets. Dude was always in foul trouble. Dude was dumb as fk during those years.

[@thingsinchuckshouse8015]

A definite underperformer for a number one pick.

[@K3VYK3V1]

..where's the brawl?

[@ToneDennis]

Dam, bro went Denzel from Training Day on everyone, king kong..! 💀

[@marcuseversley3334]

Blocks and Rebounds Marcus Camby was a monster injuries killed his career

[@userlove1070]

I’ve never seen a whyte player in the league that played for Karl say anything negative about him! THAT SAYS A LOT!!!

[@punaforager]

Karl was too old school and never adapted his approach.

[@senkoskipper]

I need Kenyon's all white get up

[@ChevronBlue]

K Mart sound super entitled

[@Iggy52]

This just goes to show you how much power these players have. Guaranteed contracts do the trick here. No way you could EVER talk like this to coach in Europe. Your ass would be gone next day and contract voided.

[@smoothe4216]

Only problem is we hearing one side of the story but ok

[@chrisrobinson8339]

Never met George but I can't stand him.

[@albertol9654]

Me neither but George seems cool af.. I remember him coaching Gary Payton with the sonics and I rarely seen him pissed off. But Kmart on the other hand always wanted to act like a tough guy.

[@The_M0st_High]

Still waiting For that "Brawl" Story.

[@MM-sz6ku]

George Karl was the cause of the Sonics losing to The Bulls for his refusal to put Gary Payton on Michael Jordan too late to make a difference

[@PTJ2008]

Gotta love Kenyon.

[@kermonwilliams2180]

Karl told Kenyon, You're not that Guy

[@Rob954ever]

Man...Karl got Lucky. Kenyon Martin is not a dude to fuck with. I remember him going back in his Cincinnati days. That dude was INTENSE and the guy is an absolute beast. George would have caught a BEATIN '. 🤦🏻

[@clarencepowell912]

Kenyon need to on TV

[@lamart3857]

It's hard for me to believe reggie evans ain't say nothing when K-Mart was checking temperatures

[@BRAWLIC215]

Reggie a strong mf too

[@lamart3857]

@@BRAWLIC215 that's what I'm saying bro reggie a rough goon type dude even if he aint have no issue wit kenyon I could see him saying like we can do whatever you wanna do type 💩

[@3serio]

Nah fr. I’m sure everybody knew he wasn’t mad at them he just wanted to vent his frustration. Unless he was already beefing with the team, that’s a different story. Other than that, don’t put me on the same side as George Karl type-shit

[@jcchambers7896]

I know melo ain't say nun 😂😂😂😂😂 imma lover not a fighter you got it k lol

[@lamart3857]

@@jcchambers7896 melo showed us who he was when he sucker punched marry collins than started running and also never putting hands on kg about those comments about his wife

[@nolas1360]

Kenyon is a funny man, but I'd hate to see him running at me pissed off. lol

[@InsaneZo]

If Kat or gobert had this rant yall would say this gen soft.

[@therealcountryboys]

No doubt. It wouldve been a bunch of "back in the day men were mentally tough and didnt cry like they do now"

[@Jokoman019]

Yup. If you played in the early 2000s or 90s they say ANYTHING they did was "tough" simple as that.

[@djconley6854]

How? Nothing about cursing out a coach or wanting to compete would be considered soft. Stop

[@InsaneZo]

@@therealcountryboysmeanwhile kenyan cry about everything. This man cried about his son getting traded lmao😭gtf outta here.

[@JamesJones-bi4ww]

​@@djconley6854 Exactly...... It's not soft when you really will bark and bite.

[@brockmiddlebrook4396]

George Karl was one of the worst coaches in history

[@ReneAlicea-b9q]

Keñyon is a real one

[@theBlackBearrrr]

I have yet to hear one player (other than Gary Payton] say anything positive about George Karl.

[@marvinjoseph3432]

I remember that game. 😮wow that’s wat happened. Kenyon right. Put the best players

[@shyguyms]

guys like this is why Basketball is ruined.... it's also the reason why so many are in prison. it's sad when players think they can do whatever they want!!

[@Hilarious_]

... Would've , could've, should've, Everybody tough in hindsight

[@hennys2324]

He already dealt with Sean Kemp n Gary Payton so Kenyon was a lightweight compared to what those guys put coach Karl thru

[@johnlarue3163]

I've listened to GK enough to know he is a bonified basketball genius... it's so obvious that he was a horrible man manager. Dude won like 1100 games and nobody like playing for him... So crazy. Watched practically every second him coaching the nuggets... no excuse they didn't at least go to the finals once. But GK wanted to be the reason his teams won, never works out that way.