The Weaponlight Surefire Doesn't Want to Talk About

[@quadconjures]

I feel like "hop buys terrible product, roasts it, and the sells it as limited edition hop merch to recoup costs" is fucking hilarious and every review youtuber should try it

[@the_realpapajohn]

yea i need this to go on my limited edition hopsurp 4in ar9 dear hop pls sell this to me

[@beekydogg]

“Touched by infamous KZbinr”

[@stevennewman4778]

@berryreading4809 Elcans are terrible products now?

[@epiccowboymemes2042]

@@berryreading4809 He literally said he didn't keep his SpecterDR...

[@ThePatriotParadox]

​@@the_realpapajohnare 4-8" AR 9 blowback builds actually better than Hop says.... Because he never gives up on his ...lol

[@GBGuns]

I loved that "and WTF does Flashlight mean, isn't the whole thing a flashlight?!"

[@SureFireLLC]

If you want enough of something, we'll build it. :)

[@Hoplopfheil]

DUAL FUEL TURBO VAMPIRE?!

[@SDGLFDNC]

This comment is beautiful. I will now be a surefire customer without question.

[@ElTejon47901]

We want non-trash lights. Can you build those some day?

[@carringtonconfroy5764]

Bring back the M77 mp5k rail!

[@AJ_Sparten1337]

How about bringing back your H9 buffer for suppressed full auto M4s?

[@BrassFacts]

Trijicon, Leupold, and now surefire. The thrilling conclusion to the trilogy where hop digs up a jank discontinued products and then bullies the company for 10min.

[@chromosomehoarder6927]

isn’t that we’re he found you, it’s a tactical doodle but it’s blemo

[@mrpibb7781]

You kept hopping over Hop on your IR laser tier list. You're better than that , Brass.

[@diet_dr.demoncore]

whoa! brassfacts? Didn't expect to see you here, you watch hop as well?

[@williamflowers9435]

My favorite videos!!

[@williamflowers9435]

You guys should do time capsule videos… buy a bunch of the best stuff 2003-2009 had to offer and give us the videos we could have had, if only KZbin had started being a thing a decade earlier

[@knowtheplan472]

surefire is about to sneak some olights under hop’s pillow for this one

[@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528]

olights are fine, dont be a snob

[@DocMitchell69]

@@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528 If you like a grenade with a flashlight attached to it, sure.

[@kevinw4267]

Is that’s an assassination attempt?

[@BlaulingHD]

@@kevinw4267yes.

[@peterslaby9782]

Shouts allah-akbar in Chinese

[@Mrgunsngear]

I used one of these for several years including a deployment. We loved it due to the pros discussed here and never saw that radio issue FWIW 🇺🇸🔦

[@mariorossi9300]

Fun fact I got to know since a friend of a friend was the movie set armorer on "Sicario", the "hero" rifle had an original SureFire 720v, but the "stunt" rifle had a non IR airsoft replica of it, just to avoid getting it destroyed/ruined in impacts.

[@melissasmess2773]

So the weapon light had a stunt double, hilarious 😂

[@TheDankCat127]

Instructions for light unclear; wound up being dragged into an ethically questionable CIA operation for bureaucratic reasons.

[@atomicsmith]

I think you need to start a channel called “Forgotten Accessories” where you fully let your accessory ‘tism loose on the world…

[@M1911jln]

I’m old enough that I remember when a Maglight was state of the art. I still have one kicking around the house somewhere. It is amazing how much flashlights have improved.

[@prototype3a]

It's amazing how long Maglight REFUSED to update their lights to use LEDs and when they did, they were STILL obsolete.

[@ghostpunkkilla]

I still have my old two D cell that I used to carry in my truck

[@alanmeyers3957]

@@prototype3aand somehow they still have market share, they do make a good club.

[@HawaiiFoodAndFun]

solofish will blow your mind

[@prototype3a]

@@alanmeyers3957 Not really since the tube is actually quite thin aluminum. Convoy L6 makes a far better club but very few people know about the L6 and my 3x 26650 L6 is even more rare as they didn't make the extension tube for very long.

[@RewardedRocki]

FUN FACT: You can trip GFCI wall outlets with a radio if you key one up within a few inches of the outlet. We do it all the time where I work as a prank when someone is trying to type a report. So I can believe radio interference might cause this light to activate.

[@christopherreed4723]

The vehicle radios on our work trucks put out enough watts that the garage has had to move the antennas on most of them. The contractor who modified them for us placed the antennas too close to the overhead light bars, which causes the antenna's output to trigger one or more of the LED blocks in the light bar. Usually in white light mode, but there are a few that flashed red/blue before they got dragged to the garage and fixed. There's also a Tahoe that starts running the entire rear panel of the light bar every time the transmission is put in reverse, but that's a wiring issue, not an RFI issue.

[@Enjoyer.762]

I will try that at my job the next time I am in the break room. I will try on the outlet for the coffee pot.

[@JoeUglyFatMama]

Years ago, I found out a Motorola Saber VHF would disable the USB port on a HP computer if keyed up within 12 inches. But only the mouse was effected. Unplug and plug it in again and it'd work. The IT guy didn't believe me until I did it to his computer LOL

[@loarmistead]

Good God that thing is so complicated it needs its own MOS.

[@hateferlife]

Thought the same. 'Press button, get light' in high stress situations is about as difficult as it needs to be.

[@-Seeker-]

@@hateferlifeWhich it is, if you set it up correctly. You're not going to be switching from IR-Visible or High-Low during high stress. You can just use the pressure pad usual or finger the button on the light.

[@hateferlife]

That's like, your opinion, man.

[@-Seeker-]

@@hateferlife I mean, think about it. You go into a mission with a set-up light. Either you use the pads, or you use the button on the light itself. The pads work the usual way, the button is hold/double tap. If I need my light in a high stress situation, I press the pad on my gun. You aren't going to be switching modes in a high stress situation anyway. You won't go, "Oh shit, I'm taking fire, I need to lower my lumens" You'll go "Oh shit, I need my weapon light" and tap on the pads.

[@hateferlife]

@@-Seeker- "You aren't going to be switching modes in a high stress situation anyway." Yeah, because I wouldn't carry this hunk of crap. Dual-illumination WML are mostly a gimmick. The lock/IR/white heads don't seem too bad but they'd have to be more than just friction-to-adjust. I had one flashlight with dual heads and broke it as often as I could. 'Press button, get light' is the best, better, and only option imvho.

[@RandyTheB_]

I love old and stolen surplus flashlights.

[@DPolk98]

Hi Randy

[@rekingskrubs3130]

Me too I have a tomahawk NV flashlight I “found” best little hand held Ive used

[@Thor_b]

😂

[@jaycee509]

We call that "tactically acquired" in the army 😎

[@RealGreenrh]

S.T.E.A.L. Strategically Transfer Equipment to Alternate Locations

[@threat2demoracy5454]

Wilson Combat wanted me to ask why the heck do you need a WML!? Don't shoot the messenger! 😂

[@MikeRehfuss]

Hackathorn: Thinks lights on pistols are a silly waste. Also has zero compunction with telling people a $5,000 single stack pistol is a must.

[@stevem4783]

I know everyone's just running with the meme, but devil's advocate here: he meant that in the context that they're overrated in concealed carry scenarios and he believes you're better served with a separate pocket light. And I tend to agree, for concealed carry. If you're in a truly dark scenario where you cannot positively ID anything around you, drawing your weapon in order to do so is reckless and dangerous. Pointing a pocket flashlight at someone's face in the dark might be a jerk move, but it won't get you arrested like pointing your weapon at them will. I also like keeping my CCW as low profile as possible and to me it's more comfortable to carry a small pocket light on a clip next to my knife than a weapon mounted light. I know, I must be a lot of fun at parties, etc etc. Home defense, bump in the night, and your LARP special weapons, yeah, toss a light on 'em.

[@threat2demoracy5454]

@@stevem4783 I think everyone is entitled to their opinion. It's nuts lol

[@stevem4783]

@@threat2demoracy5454 I just think it's crazy how many people are trashing him without actually listening to the full clip of what he said, but hey, that's the internet for you

[@christopherreed4723]

​@@stevem4783You're saying that Twitter/X text buffers, TikTok, and KZbin shorts reduce your attention span? No! Say it isn't so! 😂

[@SGTSkylor]

“And what the fuck does flashlight mean? The whole thing is a flashlight” got me

[@Enjoyer.762]

Fleshlight

[@jasonparent7967]

US SOCOM: Make us a weaksauce pistol light for our rifles. But make it EXTRA. Surefire: Wut? US SOCOM: (Waving $$) EXTRAAAA Surefire: (pockets $$) We can never talk about this…

[@chandlercody4213]

One of the Air Force Security Forces dudes we had in our small detachment in Afghanistan had the M720V on his issue rifle

[@nurse-dude]

Hop: the Chris Hansen of the gun world, hello Surefire, have a seat and let’s talk about this.

[@melissasmess2773]

The CIA really did us a disservice by letting him go😂

[@possumpatrol45]

If you don't have a Hellfighter 5 on your rifle, you don't truly operate.

[@uts_137]

we have quad rails for a reason, true operators run 4 hellfighters on their rifle

[@CertifiedSunset]

I prefer Helldivers 2

[@Weimerica8841]

@@CertifiedSunset Hail Democracy

[@CertifiedSunset]

@@Weimerica8841 For Liber-Tea!

[@Gezere9]

For when you need to see the future.

[@mdbm777]

"Block II Clone F4g" New band name i call it

[@Enjoyer.762]

Need a meme lower receiver now

[@twright600]

I turned on Closed Captioning to make sure I heard that right and it was censored so I now know for sure that I heard what I heard. LMAO!

[@hbetz5300]

I came here to see if someone else caught on. Made me do a double take, then proceed to laugh myself into a coughing fit. Only shit that Hop can come up with 😂😂

[@Heikin-Ashi-Larry]

Wondering if anybody caught that🤣😂

[@bigpapi6688]

Glad somebody’s calling out the clone bois 😂

[@josh656]

When I was GRS (peak GWOT) we had the Insight M3 (and the new and sexy 416D). When I switched to DPS (CONUS team), we had the sexy-for-the-time-Pentagon light/laser combo. I’ve got the M620V on my GWOT build and the first thing I did was sell the mount on eBay. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Rubeless]

What video game can you pretend to be GRS?

[@shootloadrepeat]

I have one of these I bought at the German PX in Kandahar. I thought it was a cool trinket to bring back. Never knew it had won contracts.

[@jackbower8671]

German PX was my favorite place to go while on refits

[@jackchan3235]

What else did they have?!

[@moparbryan]

Take the rifle bang it on the vehicle door jam and see how often the battery door pops open, now you understand why this light was disliked. It takes surprisingly little shock to pop the battery door open and disable the light and if you didn’t run the tape switch as many didn’t you now had a disabled light and no batteries

[@PewLand]

Nothing a little 100mph tape couldn't fix

[@CujoX11]

>be me >see new video >"Sweet, more obscure goodness. Whadja slap on a rifle this time, Hop?" >it's a Surefire flashlight with a crooked ass-end >holdup.wav >intense flashback to 2011 >dig through old magazine collection >find volume 9 issue 2 of Combat Tactics magazine >feature article about the Colt SCW >shown utilizing that same exact Surefire light >dude in the photos had it mounted on the bottom rail and held onto it in the goofiest way possible due to limited spacing >forever stuck in my mind because it looked like he was about to ask the SCW to turn and cough I love it when the 'tism comes together.

[@buncer]

This is almost like @ForgottenWeapons if Ian covered more weapon accessories. More than he has in the past that is, like the old machine gun mounts, bayonets, and swords Ian has covered.

[@almostontimehero5415]

Now THIS is a topic that needs light shined on it.

[@pj4433]

You just made Ken Hackathorn sad.

[@gunnshotts9892]

I see what you did there 🤣

[@TTime685]

Never realized incandescent bulbs are used for infrared emitters. But that makes a lot of sense now. Learn something every day..

[@haley746]

Nah we have IR LED now, an LED just can't do both vis and IR so they have to switch around the diodes

[@TTime685]

@@haley746 Ahh, I see, gotcha. That makes even more sense. Thanks

[@scottmyers6441]

Got one years ago, still works like a champ. That being said, the scout does nearly everything thing you would ever need in a smaller package.

[@lordhuck2689]

Ahh, the eternal struggle obtain even older and worse equipment.

[@sullimd]

Both Sicario movies are outstanding.

[@theunofficialresults231]

Number one is a must watch, number two, not as much.

[@Rubeless]

They are movies that are definitely good, not realistic, but good.

[@theunofficialresults231]

@@Rubeless I know a guy that will tell you otherwise, at least about the first one.

[@josephgonzales641]

You're making the best videos. Thanks for covering all the classic stuff.

[@donteh58]

I worked in a CA unit back in 2013-14 we had a a dozen or so in ours armsroom never used them because we were told our comms interfere with them

[@sliderofelay]

You are quickly becoming the forgotten weapon accessory channel.

[@austinkeen4577]

Easily one of the weapon lights of all time!

[@shiftyfitter]

Of all the weapon lights ever made this is one of them.

[@hateferlife]

"...buy this one..." No, sir. That's _your_ hot potato.

[@toddinfl]

Hop GWOT mode > Brock SHTF mode.

[@almostontimehero5415]

Can't trust Brock. Its those beady serial killer eyes.

[@gordygohard]

Surefire: "Thank you for finding the remaining material Hop..." DELETE *Inserts Mandela effect*

[@achilles_kbab]

I have a M720V and I love it! Got it used for about 350.

[@ryanmclaughlin2434]

Same here. Got mine for 300 or so a couple years ago and I absolutely love it. The complicated settings don’t really bother me. I don’t find myself worrying about changing settings when I’m out using the weapon at all, but it is nice to have the ability to change my IR output on the fly depending on ambient lighting conditions if I want to.

[@lanepeterson2348]

I’m really liking this kinda “forgotten weapons” format but with firearm accessories. Keep the weird old stuff coming, hop!

[@Prepared_Mindset_Pod]

I love this. I can't afford to clone, but hearing the history and etc. behind all of this stuff is great. Appreciate you doing the leg work to be able to share with the rest of us.

[@RailRoad188]

Going to start calling this channel: "FORGOTTEN ACCESSORIES"

[@travisp11]

I managed to snag one of these new off of eBay for a movie gun build. I wanted to make my DDM4A1 a replica of what Josh Brolin carried in Sicario. The lumens output on this is average at best but the infrared beam is pretty cool. I don’t have any night vision equipment but in the dark my security cameras pick up the infrared beam. They are getting a bit hard to find now but if you want some SOCOM goodness from the 2010’s, pick one up! Cheap plug but my Sicario gun build is on my YT channel. Watch out as there are fakes out there. The fakes don’t put out an actual infrared beam.

[@henrymaz1697]

i love how he always finds the weirdest things to reivew and go over. Not for the sake of product placement or anything just to show how cool or dumb something from the past was

[@Rubeless]

He will stick around after the other rubes are still debating 9 vs 45 vs 10 vs laser beam

[@gavinmullet688]

video becomes watchable at 12:50

[@natsuccubus]

HE IS RIGHT 🫡

[@theunofficialresults231]

Got me, I should get more sleep.

[@chromosomehoarder6927]

@@natsuccubus well dressed bachelor caught in camera

[@akmjolnir-v4r]

I love the new Forgotten Weapons-esque deep dives.

[@EdouardLAURENT]

Actually, a little known fact is that the FSB "Alpha group" of Russia was probably the largest user of the M720V in the 2010-2014 period. Back in the good old days when Uncle Sam and Ivan conducted based SOF training together. Rad pics with MP5s, Vityaz and "Alpha" AK105s showing M720Vs can be found online.

[@FreakrichSteiner]

Me genuinely tweaking in the corner with my TLR-1 (I have no concept of what a lumen is)

[@michaelturk7237]

"What the hell is a 'throw' anyway?" -me, duct-taping OLIGHTs together like old-timey dynamite bundles for Maximum See

[@sonofmandalore]

I'm a simple man, I see new Hop video i click.

[@johndees967]

HOP!!!!... absurdly well done video... the humour is a BLAST.. the info 1st rate. DON'T STOP.. AWESUM CONTENT!!!

[@RealBenAnderson]

11:19 this is most likely correct. Gov likes to let all the desk jockeys add their pet features into a massive list and then demand products that fulfill all of them. Check out the F-111B aircraft for another example of this happening.

[@thomaseric8662]

The algorithm requires engagement

[@hoplite015]

I've had one of these little tanks on a 416 upper/mr556 lower Kraut-Franken gun for a hot minute and I love it. Had it not had a plug outlet for pressure switchology goodness, it would have never have been considered at all LOL

[@kingwiththeax6880]

I’m old. And I’ve been a student of gun industry news since 1995. I do not remember this light. I remember the insight lights, and when they used to say 60 lumens was more than enough output for self defense. 90 lumens is almost dangerous. 110 lumens will permanently damage eyesight!

[@MugenZeroX]

I still have my first issue of Recoil, there was an article covering night vision equipment of the time and that light was in there, I thought it looked peculiar

[@praetorianservint]

Holy sh*t a buddy gave me one long ago, he had a shop was given some demo's back in the day. I had no idea it was so complicated, I thought it was broken and just had low output(no tape switch). Thanks for the vid Hop!

[@jedjorr7]

In addition to the regular m952v, and vampire scouts branded as m952v(starting around 2018), you can find some line infantry units that have boat loads of these for whayever reason.

[@Sam-et3bv]

Thank you for another great video. You really do have some of the best content on KZbin.

[@willwilkie8558]

I had one for a while when I bought it at half off back when they were still cool. It pooped out good IR which was the reason I needed it, but it was an odd thing. Kind of which I kept it just for the sake of keeping it though.

[@GLAJMAN]

Holy cow, didn't know I didn't need that, until now! Good job my favourite boomer 13 year old tactical grandma'phile.

[@Esch_atton]

Preserving history like none other. Great video, Hop!

[@Hoplopfheil]

Thanks man :)

[@KarlHensen]

I got 2 tan M720V in great condition for just USD 300 each. I guess that's a steal

[@radish1031]

Interesting video! For what is essentially two LEDs and a button it's facinated just how overengineered it went, to the point of having to consider the effects of radio interference. I wonder if people will forget to take that into account for future computerized optics and accessories.

[@wildcat8598]

Hop always coming through to show people like me things I’d never get a chance to even see 😂👍

[@travisbrowning1033]

I love that you posted this on tacswap shortly after this video posted lol

[@williamflowers9435]

I love these “Gear of ShotShows Past” videos!!

[@michaelfabian2401]

Super neat and a great explanation Hop! Atta boy, you're killing dude 🤘🤘

[@seanmccurdy94]

I work all day just to drive home to the new hop video playing in the background

[@sciloj]

Well, the whole paragraph about incandescent lights is a little weird. First, near-infrared is their _dominant_ spectrum (that's why they are so inefficient as visible light sources). The problem is that the bandpass clip-on filter needs to be fairly good (high transmission, sharp shortwave cutoff) and durable at the same time. That's why clip-ons are based on absorption filters (that cost reasonably and don't get damaged from scratching), not reflective coated filters (that cost more than the light itself). But absorption filters have bad transmissivity in their transparency window when the desired optical density is achieved outside of it. Heat (long-wave IR) doesn't have a lot to do with it.

[@jmullner76]

Hop continues his "Forgotten Flashlights" quest.

[@chromosomehoarder6927]

Hop Balaclava arch he’s in his villain mode

[@M3talr3x]

this is best channel for things that glow

[@rhodycars6058]

I love this channel. Hop buys an insanely expensive, unobtanium, obscure, horrible flashlight and does a deep dive into it like he is reverse engineering it.

[@skyhop]

I have to be honest, this thing tickles a part of my brain just right for a specific look we only got in accessories and gear during a very short window. When it seemed that nobody in the industry ever considered cost in making anything.

[@mabs9503]

New Hop video!

[@Hoplopfheil]

New Mabs comment!

[@natsuccubus]

hi mabs :3c

[@SpartanONegative]

Thanks for sharing with us Hop

[@CruxG228]

Weirdly, with how some people had it mounted, it seems comfy to hold and use as a foregrip or rest of sorts. Nice and bulky, fits the cup of the palm easily. I actually like this quite a lot, and shame we'll never have anything on the civilian market quite like it, but...sometimes good ideas are just that, and not good products.

[@flopus7]

Its weird to hear the m620v talked about like its a hidden wml. This was the only weapon light my unit had and the one I have on my gun. I think of the 620v when I think of surefire rifle weapon lights

[@jonathanrogers9961]

As always, great stuff, thank you HOP.

[@randomidiot8142]

My favorite triple A creator. Adventures in accessory autism.

[@Ammotax]

More electronics = more likely to break under recoil. Still a really cool light

[@Rubeless]

On M2 maybe

[@shockwave6213]

6:21 I don't see that as an oversight. To me, this seems like a built in safety/secure feature so you don't accidentally bump it on something and open the door to dump your batteries.

[@Hoplopfheil]

Maybe, but Surefire lights with the battery door include a little cotter pin that you can insert to lock the battery door closed, which seems like a better way to protect it.

[@shockwave6213]

@@Hoplopfheil Well, in that case, perhaps....

[@wubaru]

Great video. I remember looking at those years ago and always having a heart attack over the price lol.

[@sealove79able]

a great very interesting video and product Mr Hop.have a good one.

[@PeppicoBF]

Thanks Hop. It all makes sense now

[@jcarter855]

Always wanted to try one out but even seeing them lightly used for $250 I pass. Thanks for the in-depth look & history of that abomination!

[@Cmoth040]

I intentionally bought a clone fake, that was advertised as a clone fake, for less than $50 a few years ago. Obviously, it has no IR function, but the light output was actually good and it had a usable strobe function. The only fault was the mount. The lock lever sucked and now doesn't work at all.

[@Ghostrider-71]

Seems like SF just wanted to try out some new weapon light concepts and mixed and matched and came up with this light. Someone said “oh crap, we spent too much $$$$ on this POS, what will we do??? Along comes the US Government with an unlimited budget and SF gets to recoup $$$$. I am still waiting for SF to do a “retro” LAM so I can have my clone correct “.45 long slide whiz Lazuh sight” from the 1st Terminator movie. Great video and thanks for posting.

[@Rubeless]

SF is a unit in the army, not an entire community.

[@Ghostrider-71]

@@Rubeless SF was intended to mean Surefire.

[@DesertTactical]

Always learning stuff. Love these videos.

[@Corbett-CM]

Damn you really said it out loud haha.

[@joeditz48]

Hey hop. Thanks for making the vids you do.... I just get stoned and binge watch all of them. 🤙🏼

[@armandoquintana2185]

The echo from your rifle in that environment highlights why everyone should have one. Hearing is important

[@michaelmendez5658]

This light is also in Den of Thieves during the firefight with first responding officers to armored truck robbery!

[@chromosomehoarder6927]

“wow hop looks so kissable in this one” - Nat

[@BarnDoor-won5ve]

If you really want to be old school gucci before "gucci" was even used to describe guns, you'll run a surefire m500 handguard light on your colt like I still do. Only takes (3) cr123's to give you a whopping 125 lumens for 60 minutes, but it's just too cool to replace, lol

[@Thor_b]

Boys Hop uploaded get the popcorn 🍿

[@Just_A_Gun_Guy]

LEPs with a quick flip diffuser are going to be the future of weapon lights im calling it.

[@CaptainAhorn]

I ran across a counterfeit a few years ago. Looked identical but lacked a lot of the functionality.

[@limpetarch98k]

A perfect companion to a MAWL-C1. I love stupidly complex units that fetch $4000 USD

[@shoegum7362]

And here I was looking at this light for a retro light to pair with the Tommy Tactical T7

[@Blipp619]

I dont know who it says more about - Hop or us that we knowingly go into these videos searching for dark, negative commentary about things we often really like 😂. Every sub to this channel is a masochist.