There Is No Such Thing As "Isekai" Anime... LET'S FIGHT.

The isekai genre in anime doesn't exist... those hot controversies and more on another episode of #LetsFight!
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[@alebakanchannel]

Joey: "There's no Isekai genre" Also Joey in other videos: "Ugh, another Isekai anime"

[@ashchisalleh1454]

Joey the trap.

[@motherofhamsters]

I did notice that too... XD

[@demonheart13]

Isekai = Schrodinger's Cat. It can exist while not actually existing.

[@BrokenBladexXx]

It would be great if Joey actually read the comments and responded to you

[@StrangerHappened]

He probably meant it in "game world" sense.

[@JustinY.]

*Truck-Kun wants to know your location*

[@moonangel2368]

Greetings, Justin! 🙋‍♀️

[@Exp.LJ1223]

Dude stop following me..

[@perseusgamez2431]

Your everywhere

[@hopree2839]

Ayyy

[@rubencantu710]

@@Exp.LJ1223 stop following Justin

[@ricardovazquez1772]

"they hated Jesus because he told the truth"

[@sei8932]

Amen

[@ajshim]

I could not agree more.

[@them.o.g6734]

We hated Jesus because he was overrated

[@albert44]

Jesús was the first Isekai

[@zenmastakilla]

@@them.o.g6734 Don't cut yourself on all that edge!

[@dragoncat3499]

Iskekai is not a genre. It’s a subgenre under the fantasy umbrella.

[@brendaasbury3421]

Wait so would that make yoai and yuri not a genre

[@dragoncat3499]

Brenda Asbury Um, yeah, those are subgenres under romance.

[@brendaasbury3421]

@@dragoncat3499 why can people say that? But can't say isekai.

[@NoobNoob-ss5hs]

@@brendaasbury3421 because there are no yaoi isekai *runs off*

[@sladikk]

not necessarily

[@evaristegalois6282]

Joey: “There Is No Such Thing As "Isekai" Anime” _Natsuki Subaru is typing..._

[@Rimmer7]

If there's no such thing as an Isekai anime, then there's no such thing as a Magical Girl anime either.

[@jmdelrosario9053]

Rimmer 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@yakovantonovich643]

That is actually a philosophical topic, every anime world "sekai" is actually an isekai(another world) if you think about it

[@Jinx-iw6zb]

Yare yare daze

[@rigen97]

_Touya Mochizuki is typing..._

[@MrJobocan]

"There's no such thing as isekai anime" *10 minutes later* "Grimgar is an isekai anime" Oof

[@AsmitaKiran]

e x p o s e d

[@YoungOneJim]

This comment is underrated.

[@MojoJojoJunior]

Indeed oof on his part. Would've defended him if the title of the vid was "There Is No Such Thing As An Isekai Genre" but welp.

[@velbutvel]

He said genre, not a fucking label, so, isekai anime is a thing, but it’s a main plot point instead of a genre

[@gabbzimoongem3067]

@@velbutvel Yea but the fact that people refer to isekai anime the same way that people classify slice of life anime means that people are calling it a genre, whether they mean to or not

[@wargreysama]

Digimon Adventure is an isekai anime. Digital World wasn't just a setting, it was an entity in the anime. It mattered. :^)

[@omegaryder7855]

I feel like people forget about digimon being an isekai

[@uraharasshop3547]

Yes its absolutely an isekai

[@opaldust1979]

I mean for anything that’s considered an isekai it matters. But all things considered the digital world is the settings, it’s where it takes place, but the anime could also be considered fantasy/adventure fantasy. Theres even isekai that could also be considered as horror or comedy or pretty much any genre which is why it’s a bit questionable as to if isekai is a legitimate genre.

[@wargreysama]

@@opaldust1979 In all the isekais I've seen world itself didn't mattered, it was just in the background. However in Digimon, at least the first season, it was an entity, it was alive, there was something to it. Recent isekais, world doesn't matter, it's just for the background.

[@baychill1994]

Dang a celeb!!!

[@AtDawnWeKill]

"Ichigo dies and goes to another world" I'd like to see that version of Bleach. EDIT: I am back year and a half later to remind Joey, that Ichigo never really died. Maybe you could say he was on death's door in his fight with Ulquiorra, but other than that, he never died in the manga/anime.

[@g33k_Tech]

i think soul society is already isekai

[@AtDawnWeKill]

@@g33k_Tech So by that logic, every anime is isekai then? Fucking hell, this isekai shit has done tremendous damage

[@kacpers6975]

@@AtDawnWeKill no... but another world full of shinigami and ghosts doesn't exist on earth, therefore it's a second world. lots of anime take place on earth exclusively with no 2nd world.

[@AtDawnWeKill]

@@kacpers6975 And please do tell, which anime is actually based on real life?? Your logic makes no sense

[@kacpers6975]

@@AtDawnWeKill I didn't say anything about being based on real life, i said that they take place on earth, if the anime takes place in more than 1 world then it's an isekai.

[@icefang111]

Joey: "its setting not a genre" Westerns: *exist*

[@adamhercik581]

fucking lol

[@MJuicy]

Was coming down here to make the same point, at least I’m not alone in realizing this 👍

[@pixelimperfect7569]

Well beyond just it being a setting Isekai is what most people would call a"sub-genre" like a "Buddy Cop" action film, or a "Slasher" horror movie. There's a reason we have the term and this is it. This particular Fantasy setting/plot structure has occured so often that it becomes a specific category within the broader Fantasy genre.

[@travis_redfern6771]

I mean westerns before like the 80’s were very cut and paste in terms of the stories as well. (Even if some did it so damn well like The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly) It wasn’t until like with the Coen Brothers, that it became mixed with many genres.

[@dvillines26]

there's neo-Westerns that aren't actually set in the Old West, like The Good the Bad and the Weird, and The Proposition.

[@bingcringing]

*Next Video:* There's No Such Thing as Anime... *LET'S FIGHT!*

[@lizzz1263]

Lmao, I'll actually fight

[@kqver9696]

@@pennypincher21 hmmm mm mm mm mm mm

[@salaheddinemalek1032]

How can Japan exist without anime?

[@Wiggins-]

I mean, you're not technically wrong, in all honesty. As it's really not inherently different from cartoons aside from its point of origin so yknowww.....

[@heroslippy6666]

You sir know your vocabulary. Anime is literally just cartoons, except that everyone outside of japan sees amime as a standalone entity from all other cartoons.

[@BrickBuster2552]

Sword Art Online isn't set in another world; it's set in a HOSPITAL.

[@ankanaguha8713]

Lmao I can't help but agree

[@milky..877]

私はじゃがいもです

[@hero303-gameplayindonesia8]

@@milky..877 hey potato, im dad!

[@soonersciencenerd383]

i want to see nurse hitomi 's monster infirmary in an anime.

[@TheDan10ful]

"there is no such thing as isekai anime" 1 year later: isekai tier list lmao

[@MGengarDude]

Unpopular opinion: Most people don't care about other peoples opinions.

[@DMadHacks]

Your opinion is a little less unpopular than you thought.

[@MGengarDude]

@@DMadHacks lol.

[@gwenk903]

I mean, I think his sub count begs to differ

[@MGengarDude]

@@gwenk903 Talking in general lol.

[@TheGeladoo]

That's not an opinion, though, it's a statement.

[@charginginprogresss]

"Ichigo died" ...I beg to differ about this.

[@Ragefat]

Yup, he fumbled there.

[@Sheamu5]

Should have*

[@haze2464]

Well he was stabbed and rukia gave him her "power" for him to "live" and that's how the anime started if I remember correctly

[@fuzemurcury3082]

Wired World but he didn’t die

[@haze2464]

@@fuzemurcury3082 yeah because of rukia did after he got stabbed it's literally in the beginning of the show

[@falsef7798]

"Anyone born between 1981 and 1996 (ages 23 to 38 in 2019) is considered a Millennial, and anyone born from 1997 onward is part of a new generation." Your a Millennial too Joey

[@falsef7798]

@@tera7174 cool bro

[@NoobNoob-ss5hs]

@@falsef7798 Cool, bro.*

[@MsZeldasaga]

It actually varies. Some sources say 1997 is included in the millenial generation some say otherwise. The thing with generations is, it can't be clearly defined intil people of that generation get older (like 40 and up).

[@ajshim]

This confused me, because I was told a Millennial is some who is born from 1970's to 2000's. Which only made me even more confused because I though Millennials were people born on or after 2000.

[@thecapitalisticdictator2256]

@@ajshim on or after 2000 would be generation z. Though I think the precise date is 1997 to 1998 and onwards is generation z. Most people just round up and so between 80s and 2000 you are a melinial and after 2000 you are generation z. Anyways its variable because it's based on grouping age groups based on how the average looks at the world

[@Zruncho_Kroki]

"Corpse Party is an isekai" *Let's Fight*

[@bestpriest2224]

Controversial

[@rizza8920]

It is, I think another dimension is considered as another world right?

[@user-mh6ju3pg8c]

"when they cry is an isekai" Don't fight ita true

[@jkud3332]

*There is such thing about Isekai if you put a 9.5 on it*

[@aguywholikeshimself5330]

Fucking SAO reference

[@brendanlong6282]

HAHA

[@TheGeladoo]

Your comment made no sense

[@MaDmOnStErQr]

TheGeladoo theAnimeman put a 9.5 on SAO way back then.

[@twolittletoots4009]

@Trafalgar Law It kinda feels like it

[@dzogurtowa]

For many years I thought Lupin the 3rd was the third part of Lupin franchise, so I didn’t watch it because I couldn’t find previous seasons. I felt so stupid when I found out the truth

[@ctvuniverse4414]

That's exactly what I was thinking while watching the video, it seems nothing nowadays is unique to oneself after all.

[@calebwee328]

So have you watched it yet?

[@angelolorilla2050]

As a man who watched that series as a kid, I can say that Lupin the 3rd is a great classic.

[@beegyoshi5382]

omg same might have to go check it out now lol

[@grimkidcoffee5013]

It's alright. Its pretty misleading.

[@thechannelitrollwith1645]

I've never understood hating Naruto. When I finally watched it, I was quite surprised. The story was good enough and it makes you love the characters. Skip the filler if it's not for you but overall, a really fun anime.

[@Chen-fp6xf]

I liked it, but then after watching other animes it just kinda felt like a okay at best anime. Expectations are higher while naruto doesnt meet those expectations (in relation to the hype)

[@jotaro2105]

Boruto is worse

[@adityagandhi9882]

@@Chen-fp6xf can't agree more. Before watching many different types of anime I used to think that Naruto is a 10/10 but after watching so many different shows its 6/10 at best for me

[@lilli4222]

I'm sure it's fun but I just don't get it. It's okay but that's just it. It doesn't suck it's just that I'd much rather watch Hatsune Miku fight against uuuuh idk goku (?) then have to go through whatever naruto is. It fails to grab my attention.

[@oak6225]

18:00 really appreciated that you used the magical teri pic on portraying the magical girl genre lol.

[@thesparky502]

I would like to see you do a "let's fight" on livestream and argue with people in real time

[@waffles4243]

He can't he a pussy

[@everinghall8622]

Idk if that would work, when you have hundreds of people posting per second.

[@thesparky502]

@@everinghall8622 I mean I've seen people do similar things before on livestream (i.e. reading your comments) so it wouldn't be that hard for him to do

[@thesparky502]

@@waffles4243 but a Cat would bring in so much more views tho

[@everinghall8622]

@@thesparky502 I suppose lol, would be interesting to see.

[@Wol333]

Settings are genres and Truck-Kun is a protagonist

[@KiraSlith]

"... Truck-kun is the Initial Antagonist" FTFY

[@ravenala9521]

Read Isekai Transport thank

[@KiraSlith]

@@ravenala9521 I did not know that was a thing.

[@Jitzau]

Mob, bunnygirl, or anything similar being slow just makes me laugh

[@jpark8323]

As a person who has friends working in the animation industry and learned about the current state in class, the problem with South Korea is that the animation industry hardly gets investment. It is getting bigger but the big problem is that with low investment there’s hardly any time to produce a good standard show. Like the time the investors give are unbelievably short. So prerecording is almost impossible. Especially for large scaled very fancy animation movies/ tv shows.

[@kablstr1451]

*With 7 ads on my side, nothing can stop me!*

[@John-gz5mz]

6

[@DMadHacks]

Anime Man has WAY too many ads on his videos, almost never gets demonitized recently, and still thinks he needs a Patreon. #AnimeManLogic

[@nerdie_pickle1411]

He has a patreon I think

[@gianepineda5799]

@@DMadHacks money hungry bastard

[@kinghow123]

always use adblock

[@Gantorin]

I personally liked Wotakoi when the anime came out. Not sure if that is classed as a Shoujo genre. I like that it has some nerdy gamer/otaku stuff, some romance, and pretty good comedy in it mixed together. I was visiting Japan as it was airing. When I saw that the manga looked to be getting good reviews, I stopped watching it to not spoil it. Bought all the volumes of the manga to read help progress my Japanese learning. It is my reward to proress my studies. As an adult male, I enjoy a good number of shoujo/romance themes. They seem to have a lot of good feeling vibes, and sometimes have the humor to help put a cherry on the genre. I enjoy it.

[@dheerajmishra3649]

It is one of the best shows that came out in 2018 atleast in its genre. Love stories which has more realistic moments than cliche stupid type ones are the ones I dig.

[@asmog5484]

I love it too... and it's Josei

[@panleot1894]

I love the show and the manga. So nice to see a show about adult otaku. I’m so tired of everything being about high school students.

[@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr]

Isn’t that Josei (adult female demographic)?

[@stephaniestanger4339]

yes it’s such a good show and manga!!

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

"Yeah, it's kinda like *real life* " The truth hurts so much.

[@noname-yt5dj]

I think elfen lied also tells you how it is to be an outsider and how people treat you just because you are different. And how the government sees people who probably might be dangerous. and that they don't give "weird" people a chance

[@gv12351]

I got so excited when Joey mentioned Grimgar... then he proceeded to calling it shit and broke my heart. It’s too bad it didn’t get a second season. I read ahead into the light novel and the story only gets better.

[@uHasioorr]

up to volume 12 when it dives head first, into a pool of garbage :P

[@arcverson4963]

Grimar was Ok.. Joe is confirmed having shit taste so just ignore his nonsense

[@chickanime9433]

Arcverson lol and u have the "right taste“, logic...

[@kylebarry20000]

I personally really enjoyed it, i wasn't a masterpiece but I did think it was decent and I love them types of shows anyway :D

[@kylebarry20000]

I think joey has great taste and experience and logic to base his opinions on

[@olcrimurtoir4532]

"The millennials of this generation." *face palm*

[@thestrangeking3985]

That sentence makes me want to kill myself

[@Balala_]

"millennial" has become a slur these days

[@alexk7880]

@@Balala_ blame this generation that became crazy people lol

[@Balala_]

@@alexk7880 I don't blame any generation. Every generation before used slurs. It was just different words.

[@zotaninoron3548]

@@alexk7880 Every generation since the written word has accused the most recent generation of being lazy good-for-nothing, self-entitled know-nothings. The term "Me generation" was originally applied to the Baby Boomer generation in a Times article in the 70s and was successively applied to every generation afterwards.

[@hxnx3900]

Joey: ...the millennials of this generation don't appreciate old anime. Me looking at Gen Z voting for MHA as the greatest shounen: ...yes

[@SotonskaTamburica]

I appreciate you being so chill about reading shoujo and josei manga. Respect!

[@SergeVolkovMusic]

I think, that things like "Isekai" or "pirate" anime can be described as Sub-Genres.

[@adambaker2190]

But those define setting and character tropes, not genre. You can throw pirates into another world and it would still not define its genre. On a similar note, the mechanics of a show, movie, or game don't really define the genre either. One Piece would be very different if it were horror, but wouldn't be much different if it took place in another world.

[@SergeVolkovMusic]

​Well, first, let's define what a "genre" is. Technically, this is a general concept that reflects the essential properties of an artwork. And these properties can be both generalized or more specific, such as setting or сharacter trope just for sake of simplifying classification and ordering, imho.

[@adambaker2190]

@@SergeVolkovMusic But you can have a horror take place on earth or on another world, or involve pirates or ninjas or both. Horror defines the genre, not the people in it or where it takes place. And a sub-genre should better define what it is about, for example, gore or thriller being sub-genres of horror. If anything isekai would be a super genre or you could use the actual term, in this case, the setting. That's the point he was making. A genre is not the same as the setting, and the setting should not be what you use to describe the genre of a movie or show. If you did, Star Wars and Alien would be the same genre. Sure, they are both sci-fi and both take place in space, but Star Wars is not the horror that is Alien, and Alien is not the opera that is Star Wars.

[@SergeVolkovMusic]

@@adambaker2190 You say so, as if we using the setting or anything else as a sub-genre, we can no longer use the main genres. Yes, "Star Wars" and "Alien" are movies of different genres, but they have a common setting. And I see no reason why this can not be specified as a sub-genre to better define what it is about and simplify the search. Why do you think that if there are gore in the film, then it is ok to specify this as a sub-genre, but if the movie is about pirates or ninjas for example then we shouldn't do that?

[@credfire8660]

The "semicolon" universe is called the SciAdv universe, and the VNs are the best way of experiencing the story (although Occultic;Nine isn't technically part of it, and none of the versions released are the complete story).

[@mistbornlazarus2611]

I was one of those who said "Steins;Gate gets interesting after the second half" but last year I read the VN and MAN, everything is great about Steins;Gate! (imo). What would be "the first half" is actually pretty good by itself. I love the "science" on S;G and its take on time travel is my personal cannon. And the Soundtrack is amazing and all hail to my personal Goddess Asami Imai (Kurisu's VA). So yeah! With the Vn you experience the story a little different. You get the "whole experience". It's a good idea to read those. (And I kinda want to read Chaos;Child because i've been told is pretty good. I haven't watched the anime nor will watch it)

[@the_real_breeso]

@@mistbornlazarus2611 Just finished Chaos;Child yesterday. Go read it. It's worth it.

[@gabrielpaolopila9243]

I'm a dude and I read Skip Beat the Wallflower Kimi no Todoke alongside Slam Dunk Ace of the Diamond One Outs Liar Game.

[@kleozane2781]

are these shoujos ?

[@sondrebjorsvik6709]

Skip Beat and kimi no todoke are life bruv

[@punani_slayer4209]

Do your parents know you're gay?

[@hydratedgraph2486]

@@punani_slayer4209 Oldest trick in the book bruh

[@lilli4222]

Based.

[@JD-gm2ly]

I love as he talks the he slowly zooms in getting closer and closer then reservations after a while and just repeats it

[@lucastardjopawiro3698]

Heey the right side of your moustache is almost connecting, you'll get there

[@mecrop12]

It's actually the left side of his face mate.

[@lucastardjopawiro3698]

@@mecrop12 well ye excuses me

[@FirstLast-uj9ud]

Lmao I wasn't the only one who was bothered by this

[@danisha4114]

@@mecrop12 no it's the right side m'dude..

[@mecrop12]

@@danisha4114 it's like looking into a mirror fam so it would be the opposite

[@OvPdTurtle]

Did that person say Bunnygirl Senpai is slow paced?

[@alexprus7953]

They might be confusing "slow paced" with "dialogue heavy"

[@everinghall8622]

Bunnygirl senpai was so good, has good plot, has feels, but the plot isn't too serious and the feels aren't too heavy. I liked it.

[@infinitykiyen6270]

Ah... If I have to say if they want a fast-paced one? Read the manga and feel disappointing... Yes, when it goes fast as fk you will be like super damn confuse. Fan base Novel > Manga. #facts

[@krazykangaroo4653]

Fuck that!! Did that guy say mob was a slow anime? WTF?

[@danny87573]

Yeah he confessed within the first three episodes lol.

[@kitoudark]

Thank you for pushing Lupin the 3rd and The Castle of Cagliostro ( My favorite movie). Part 4 and 5 we're amazing and I'm glad we are getting more Lupin these days.

[@JuliaNightmare]

The part about pacing got me thinking about my preferences in anime vs manga. More specifically action sequences\scenes. I think I'll save these thoughts for the next round of submissions.

[@twolittletoots4009]

Wait.... Is the Death 13 arc in JoJo considered an isekai since they went to another world?

[@jkud3332]

I tried answering this, and now I'm puzzled

[@MI-mm4lq]

Yes

[@xblade149]

No

[@jesus_gm4856]

Yes, LALIHO LALIHO!

[@skalatoor4872]

is death a jojo reference?

[@baronsamedi5741]

Hey Joey could you please make a list about Anime with deep messages regardless of the genre

[@vi777x4]

1. Eromanga sensei. The trash that ascended trash.

[@pineapple1784]

"The Perfect Insider" has a lot of existential/philosophical messages

[@atanuchakravarty486]

Ergo Proxy

[@scooottbruh7849]

Jojo Part 3 Fuck Lazer eyes lets use a road roller instead

[@shamoonsaqib]

Psycho Pass season 1

[@DenderFriend]

I think the reason people call Isekai a genre is not just because they all take place in another world but because they have similar patterns of 'character does something that causes them to be transported to another world, typically of a fantasy setting, where they must survive and potentially find their way home.'

[@chrisblogs5115]

Steins gate and serial experiments lain are legit in my top 5 anime. Glad you are talking about them a lot

[@jumpingjack2264]

Next video: There's no such thing as fighting...... LET'S FIGHT!!!

[@baguettebtch]

^^^^

[@kurisu1204]

I quite liked the setting and pace of grimgar of fantasy and ashe. For example, normaly the Protagonists would mindlessly charge into the enemy at first sight. The guys from grimgar weren't that way. I liked that more " reasonable"? and melancholic approach

[@blakestallsmithofthematrix3438]

It takes the. "Hey we can kill monsters!" To a "Oh fuck... they are alive to."

[@liesandy291]

Realistic they're even weaker than GOBS. and THEY LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES!!!!.

[@thestrangeking3985]

Yeah, yet I didn't like it because its "not dark enough". I like animes that were dark or at least has dark elements

[@kurisu1204]

@@thestrangeking3985 idk it was quite a mature Show imho

[@kylebarry20000]

It needed more than 12 eps

[@doov3537]

Ichigo didn’t die as far as I know. His soul’s makeup having Shinigami DNA and him stealing Rukia’s powers turned him into a weird mix

[@Ari__Ari]

@ 17:35 THANK YOU!! istg people are just hating on the show because they see "magical girl" and think "ew cutesy girl stuff" smh Madoka Magica is such a great show and the movies are just as amazing! #GoWatchMadokaMagica

[@XXXkazeXXX]

i used to love magical girl animes and i hate madoka. way too alice in wonderland -ish for me

[@HarleyCringe]

Go watch Sailor Moon, it's great

[@Aqua_Rin]

Hai to Gensou no Grimgar was awesome for me 😢

[@LasherTimora]

Same. I bet the Joey that gave SAO 9.5 would also like Grimgar.

[@soniablanche5672]

You must like trash

[@anandak5155]

Nope..

[@Succubus_L0li]

Chihanmi Kasar yeah it needs more hentai

[@Xenorous_]

Woah Grimgar was great! Fight me!

[@julmlearning635]

These vids are a lot of fun! I always get at least one new thing to read or watch from them. Keep up the great work!

[@prwleyghost4154]

Killer intro like always much love bro

[@AndreaGiuseppeCastriotta]

Genres are just taxonomy, used to categorize something so the user can have a grasp of what the product is about before buying. Working in the videogame industry I see every day genres like "First person shooter" (which are a camera perspective + a mechanic), "Role Playing Game" (which indicates a system), "Managerial" (which comprise a set of dynamics), "Platformer" (which hints to a level design obstacle), "Metroidvania" (which indicates the game it take inspiration from) and I can go on. So yeah, as long as the genre gives info about the show and make the people grasp what it is about (theme, setting, etc), "Pirate", "School" and "Isekai" are fully functioning genres. In the end it's just taxonomy and the human desire to classify everything.

[@ColorfulMusicNeko]

Thank you for this, to say Isekai isn't a genre is pretty dumb imo. I mean, considering there's tons and tons of isekai shows it's pretty fair to consider it a genre of sorts.

[@Omnispleesh]

Sorry man, those just aren't genres anymore, there are only video games. Genres are a pointless distinction and we should stop using them.

[@LegDayLas]

you said it better then I have been able to in this comment section lol. People are acting like genre is some kind of special term and that only a select few choosen by the gods may exist.

[@MJuicy]

Omnispleesh ahhh yes I see. So when I go on Steam to buy a game I just buy the first one right, I mean they’re all just video games so they must be the same. When I go to the search bar I just type in “game” and that will bring up the one I’m looking for. You’re logic is on point

[@Omnispleesh]

@@MJuicy I'm not the one who made the stupid video trying to tell people that certain genres don't exist. If you couldn't pick up on the massive amount of sarcasm that's on you.

[@bingcringing]

Anyone else still feeling absolutely destroyed after watching episode 5 of Dororo..? *I AM...*

[@TheArmidillionAire]

I'm still trying to figure out where I can watch it...

[@PunkRocker-ts6bv]

Please don't remind me

[@ADTillion]

Armilli Amazon Prime Video depending on your region.

[@bingcringing]

*GoGoAnime* my dude... It's literally the BEST site to watch Anime...And it updates new Anime Episodes Faster than Crunchyroll...

[@TheArmidillionAire]

@@ADTillion Alright I'll check it out, thanks. But yeah, I have crunchyroll, Netflix and funimation but none of them have it. So I tried kiss and they banned me for my ad blocker. No anime is worth the viruses that would come from me turning off ad blocker...

[@meeranhaq9479]

4:15 and that close up after had me dead lol

[@studi0robb]

i love these. because, with very few exceptions, i totally agree with your arguments (fights). your "points/counterpoints" are always well thought out and spot on. oh, and Shōjo manga that guys should read: Fushigi Yūgi, Akatsuki no Yona, and Puraido (Pride).

[@Duskstone89]

I gotta respectfully disagree with you, chief; While School, Pirate or Isekai aren't genres in the sense that they describe what type of story it's going to tell (like Fantasy or Horror) you most definitely can say "One Piece is my favorite Pirate Anime." Because, some settings are simply so popular that the setting is more enticing to some than the genre. Some people just like the prospect of a story told in another world, not really caring what said story might be about, and so they tend to say "I like Isekai anime" rather than "I like anything that takes place in another world and has a set of common themes and tropes."

[@thoughtgaming492]

Equilorian anything can be a genre. Being a setting and being a genre are not mutually exclusive. The definition of genre includes “characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter.” Which means that yes, settings can be a genre too. Look at western movies. Similarly, you could say that Isekkai does tell you about the story. In fact, it tells you a lot more about the story than “thriller” would. With just thrilled, you know a general mood. With Isekkai you know much much more, but lack what the mood will be. It’s simply differentiates what info you have before starting the show and what your expectations are.

[@betarise2772]

Joey: Who the fxxk watches Boruto? Gigguk: ...LET'S FIGHT.

[@goob27]

HOLY- this 22 minute video has 6 ads. I always thought that the youtubers I follow surely had to be exaggerating to some degree how often they get demonetized, but if this is full monetization... Joey is a god. I'm converting to AnimeManism.

[@kyukake_shi]

The biggest mystery in occultic;nine is when you can't hear "eight" in their ending song, but the singer said she actually said it in the song

[@twavla4972]

6:50 Wowowow the GENRE shonen? Shonen is a demographic, not a genre. I mean, find a similarity in genre between Naruto and Death note. Because both are Shonen manga.

[@KiraSlith]

Highly underrated comment.

[@Raeyeyi]

Okay well wow, I mean I still have some arguments but this is seriously an amazing point

[@KiraSlith]

Short answer: The current naming method for anime Genres is retarded, but it's a solution to how Japanese as a language works. Long answer: For the Japanese language, description as genre is a language hack they need because their language doesn't really allow for the formation of completely new words, just compound description-words. English uses a hack to do the reverse, the hyphen and the apostrophe, to allow for compound descriptions and words, so neither is doing better overall.

[@zackrose6261]

Basically anime man is like *Slaps Japan * "I don't care about what you consider a genre cause I'm the right one even though I'm not the guy who makes anime and the genres"

[@sammysaito529]

Zack Rose Joey: isekai is a setting not a genre Westerns: *exist* Joey: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that

[@phlaryx7145]

Damn. The anime man really hates grimgar XD

[@deadinside6650]

Madoka magica wasn't horror tho? Or am I wrong? I am pretty sure that it is just psychological. Still a good show tho

[@stainlesssteel6559]

I mean.... if you think back on Mami’s witch scene in episode 3... I’m pretty sure that would count towards horror... juss sayin’

[@deadinside6650]

@@stainlesssteel6559 I wouldn't say that was horror.

[@bluez1892]

Still a horror. A psychological horror.

[@Ari__Ari]

"Horror" is a genre and I'd say that "Psychological Horror" would be a sub-genre in that.

[@Pooky1991]

Psychological horror i think

[@grimsladeleviathan3958]

"...under our noses" Joey: * points under his eye *

[@superxgyro7870]

I don’t know about you guys but I liked Grimgar Of Fantasy and Ash anime and it’s light novel.

[@toddunet6940]

Grimgar is in my top 3 of all time with Stein;Gate and Parasyte

[@ragefacememeaholic5366]

I very much didn't enjoy Grimgar. And I prefer Isekais.

[@JJJNProductions]

I also loved Grimgar and have been buying and reading the light novels as they come out.

[@ScarFearz]

Ok, I really want to know, what do people dislike about Grimgar?! If the answer is Ranta, well, he's there to annoy the shit out of people. The author makes sure to remind everyone of it in every tome. Every character has a realistic personality. For once, we actually see the struggle of the main characters, and real struggle, people actually die, no one is safe from death, but they're not pointless death like Akame ga Kill. Every character feels real. I actually know people that would fit how those characters are described. It's easy to identify, the story is engaging, the pacing is somewhat slow, fine, but it's not a bad thing imo, there is real suspense. I just love everything about it. So, while I could understand why someone wouldn't like it, I can't understand how you could call it shit.

[@dom3225]

I loved the animation, the colors, the gore and the fact that they were weak at the beginning but at the end of it I was like "meh". I can't put my finger on what prevented me from liking it as much as I liked Re:Zero for example.

[@luke-ww2vz]

Isekai is a sub-genre and so is school, it gives you an idea of what the anime will be like

[@RisqueBisquetz]

Not "sub-genre", call it "setting" because that is what those are.

[@jtamiing559]

school aint a genre

[@Sujugirl23]

School isn't a genre at all you're not explaining nothing with it. It's a damn setting. Some anime is has more going on than a damn school

[@luke-ww2vz]

@@Sujugirl23 A genre is supposed to explain whats going on, these 2 are sub genres because they describe in what setting they are, they describe whats going on. If i see isekai as a genre ill know what to expect, same with school.

[@toshvtosh5469]

luke Fate Stay Night takes place at school, but I would have never thought it had to do with a holy war that takes warriors from all generations to duke it out for a wish if I saw “school” as a sub-genre.

[@travis_redfern6771]

I saw Serial Experiments Lain finally this year, and so glad I did. The slow pace is definitely not boring ever though. It’s actually quite unique cause in my opinion even though the show moves slowly, it’s so damn suspenseful, that you are still on the edge of your seat.

[@cloudunderweather9554]

OK let me get this straight... He says that it would be stupid if we were saying "pirate" was a genre (4:44), but "magical girl" genre is just fine? (17:52) Somethings's not adding up. I also believe that isekai is indeed a genre now. Because a genre describes the feel or atmosphere of a series. If you can say, "this show has a *insert genre here* vibe to it" then it can probably be a genre. You could just call them fantasy, but that doesn't really do it justice does it?

[@LeonGun8]

It's a subgenre though. Isekai is still part of the Fantasy Genre, just that the Fantasy Genre is so bloated now that the subdivisions are neccesary.

[@thoughtgaming492]

Anything can be a genre. Being a setting and being a genre are not mutually exclusive. The definition of genre includes “characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter.” Which means that yes, setting can be a genre. It doesn’t even have to be a subgenre as Isekkai does not always mean fantasy. For example, there are a couple sci-fi Isekkai as well and also reverse Isekkai where someone from a different world comes to our world. That would not be fantasy if the setting is our world. Anyway again, settings can be genres. Look at western movies. Pirate can also be a genre by the same rules.

[@anirudhvp4931]

LeonGun8 omfg legit i was about to comment the same goddamn thing

[@magic_cfw]

While I do agree, I think mahou shoujo for me is like power rangers but with cute anime girls, to justify the term. This is where there is a recurring format, where some girl meets some mysterious thing, makes a contract and gets powers. Whereas Pirate would be akin to Demon, Penguin, Butler, as these have less format behind it and more just a descriptor of the characters in it. The closest similar term would be Idol, where its more like a format (idol do idol things, there is a concert at the end of the arc/episode, etc). I would prefer if there is a term for the "power rangers" format apart from shounen or action, but I am yet to become aware of such a term.

[@cloudunderweather9554]

@@magic_cfw that makes sense with the whole iconic "magical power rangers" feel. i just think Joey thinks this can be a genre, and not something like pirates only because there currently *is* no pirate genre. Use any theme enough and a format is likely to develop naturally. I think Joey believes its not dumb that mahou shoujo is an idea for a genre because its already been established by a gajillion anime. If a bunch of pirate anime follow the things One piece did, it would be a genre just like everything else. You know, hidden treasure that they never find, gradually recruiting members that they call "nakama", first pirate ship saves your life and makes you cry, blah blah blah. Its not as stupid as he makes it seem.

[@kamaraalya7607]

Speaking of anime outside of Japan, mo dao zu shi is a really good show

[@parvathi6638]

I know right,many people sleep on it cause it's shonen ai

[@kamaraalya7607]

@@parvathi6638 yeah but it's censored because of Chinese TV limitations, so it only has small elements of shounen ai

[@parvathi6638]

@@kamaraalya7607 but it's tagged as shonen ai ..that's why people don't give it a chance

[@jskim5336]

For anime outside of japan its gotta be Thunderbolt Fantasy for me :)

[@kyuzo26]

God can't find it anywhere to watch, mind helping ?

[@visieg1235]

Happy Chinese New Year. As a celebration, LETS !@#$ING FIGHT

[@kappadarwin9476]

Hamtaro how the memories come flooding back

[@jana7098]

@Lelouch Jang Happy Chinese New Years!

[@myHuge249]

to me what distinguishes an isekai from a traditional fantasy is the fact that this world is new to both you and the protagonist, allowing you feel more immersed. My guess for why isekais are such a force among the otaku community is that isekai essentially gives the ultimate form of escapism. One where you and the protagonist learn about this world simultaneously. Whereas traditional fantasy tends to be a much more third person experience

[@elchefgusto]

Thanks for all these great accidental recommendations. 0.0

[@IgorAkou]

Could you please explain why you don't like Grimgar? I've always liked it and never really understood why you say it's so bad.

[@lisa_42]

I thought it was a pretty interesting approach on the isekai settings... I'd like an explanation too :/

[@ssarellas]

Because he has trash taste in anime

[@bakyura156]

Yeah I liked it allot actualy that it made me read the LN

[@alexprus7953]

Even if he didn't like it, I don't think it deserves being called shit. Personally there are a few anime that I enjoyed, but found to be shit, or that I wouldn't say are bad, but still hated. I think Grimgar deserves at least an "ok", even if you don't like it

[@ssarellas]

@@alexprus7953 Well Joey always shits on anime he doesn't, so no surprise there. He's just a troll

[@chadowsrikatemo4494]

Mirai niki has a message (Teenagers love Flipfones too much and cry when their parants buy them a Nokia so it does not break)

[@cybersquirrell1370]

Hey Joey, if you see this could you explain what your issue with Grimgar was?

[@Balala_]

Joey doesn't answer to youtube comments

[@kylebarry20000]

Probably not a lot happens in the 12 eps

[@bluez1892]

Maybe he read the light novel and wasn't satisfied with the anime. It happens to me when I read the manga of The Rising of the Shield Hero. I like the anime though but I'm not satisfied as of yet.

[@megaplay]

...that elf lied dog almost made me cry 😭

[@akantorman1]

0:44 your most disliked videos have below 5% dislikes? What the hell lol

[@keeegz95]

from what i've seen most videos on youtube as a whole unless super controversial or just really bad generally have somewhere between 1-2% dislikes so just under 5% is actually fairly high especially for a big and successful youtubers with an avid following.

[@keeegz95]

in fact just going to 5 random videos of his on my recommended all of them had less than 1% dislikes so yeah 5% is quite substantial not only in general but for joey especially

[@akantorman1]

Well for controversial videos 80% likes are quite normal actually from what youtubers I follow

[@keeegz95]

@@akantorman1 it depends on the controversy but 5% is still fairly disliked compared to most videos

[@JustJgast]

omg he talked about grimgar, that's my favorite show!!! and then he called it shit :(

[@basicinsight7214]

He probably haven't seen it, there is still hope man.

[@TheSwooj]

No I’m sure he did, the problem with that show is that for the majority of it nothing really happens.

[@KiraSlith]

Grimgar was a REALLY good show, it just needed WAY more time to get into the plot than it had before the "Oops, season is over! If you liked this and want more you better go buy those books! ;-3" that's so painfully common these days with genuinely good series, I guess the cost to profit rates just aren't there for the companies involved compared to the Novels and Manga.

[@JustJgast]

@@KiraSlith ive read up to 8 of the light novel and i love it :^)

[@KiraSlith]

@@JustJgast And the fact you had to change mediums to continue enjoying it is bull.

[@inahokiyotaka6203]

For every lets fight series I take a notepad with me. taking notes of every anime he talks about that I do not know.

[@KinToInferno]

10:37 DONT YOU DARE SHOW THAT DOG AGAIN I can’t handle it again!!

[@clippsforryou]

The first anime I ever watched was Naruto and I was instantly hooked so now I’m interested in Shonen Jump anime and (as bad as people say it is) Naruto will always be my favorite anime.

[@jobertuy2130]

"sees title" *All isekai MCs Has joined the chat*

[@SimonCleric]

21:26 that cracked me. I can't stop laughing, help xD

[@SirAyme]

My first anime was a shoujo anime, Tokyo Mew Mew. Not sure how I did it, but the show I watched after that was Vampire Knight. Which is Seinen I believe?

[@HHT-rk7wn]

Love ur vids keep it up😁

[@ArchDemonD]

Your hair looks "good" as always

[@zaidsyed8187]

*"You think you're anime.. But you're not"* Exactly what I said when I came across Chinese/Korean "animes".

[@deviathan9330]

*Kazuma vigorously types on his keyboard*

[@TheBrazilRules]

It really is a sad day when girls have to justify reading Shoujo manga

[@AdamGlory]

Hm...does MAR (Marchen Awaken Romance) not count as an Isekai then? Side note, I wanna know what Joey thinks of that series, since it came out at a time when (as far as I was aware) parallel world anime hadn't over-saturated the market yet.

[@luckyfresh7]

Adam Glory yeah it is. Mär is an ok show since it’s cliche and ginta could’ve had way better options with babbo, but the art a characters are amazing.

[@everinghall8622]

"What kind of anime did you start watching in that case" My first anime, ever, was Ninja Scroll.... I saw it when I was about 4-5 years old.

[@samchoe5843]

Sounds like my english teacher discussing the importance of setting in creative writing

[@SonGoku2031]

What is the second anime mentioned at 4:18 and is it any good?

[@IamClipsus]

Oregairu. It's awesome.

[@alex9140]

It,s oregairu and yes it,s good A lonely emo is forced to be a member of some school club and solve random shit for other people

[@wobblytwat3964]

@@alex9140 So it's basically Hyouka

[@deepEleven]

So, Magical Girls & Shounen are valid genres but Issekai and School cannot be considered one.

[@jtamiing559]

issekai is a sub-genre.and school is a setting, the slice of life genre are mostly (not all) set in school.

[@dray4705]

Deep Jahan Grewal issekai? What is issekai

[@deepEleven]

@@dray4705 's' was an ordinary letter , living its normal life, taking part in forming normal, not too complicated, english words. One day, out of nowhere, it got transported into a japanese word 'isekai'. But, it soon realized that it wasn't needed there. Will it find a place for itself in this new realm of otaku-words? Find out next on...

[@LegDayLas]

@@dray4705It's pronounced issssssssssssssssekai

[@LeonGun8]

@jireh tamiing May I add then, since you are adamant, that Mahou Shoujo is a sub-genre, which is also what many people consider isekai as. They are all part of the Fantasy genre. Subgenres are just convenient divisions that divide stories with similar traits, like "stories of characters being transported to another world or simulaton" or "stories of young girls being granted magical abilities". And Shounen is a demographic that Japan uses to categorize their stories, specifically they use it to label the stories they write for teenagers. What most people talk about when saying "shounen manga" is actually the Action manga written for teenagers like Dragonball and One Piece.

[@jacobdrolet4262]

Totally amazing video of isekai anime fight, fantastic job.

[@silverr1111]

One of my favorite series on your channel

[@GuyLogen]

“MHA is alright I guess”. Finally an “anime expert” that shares my feelings for that show. People keep overhyping the show like it’s this great anime with amazing writing but I’m like, nah fam it’s decent, solid even but it’s not as great as shows like dororo, mob psycho, hxh, fma or even naruto for that matter.

[@sondnatsuro7148]

so what your saying is its wrong for a show to be liked by to much people cause you belive its overhyped sorry bro but things being overhyped doesnt exist you cant just say only this number of people is allowed to like this no matter if you liek it or not there is a reason it has a hype

[@GuyLogen]

@@sondnatsuro7148 no man, anyone can like any show. They can hype it up however they want as well idc. My comment is more for the people who will claim that it's one of if not the best shounen manga/anime out there.

[@sondnatsuro7148]

@@GuyLogen when u say they say its one of the best what do you mean with best is it not in the top 20 coversation we have to remember that my hero is pulling numbers and getting new people into anime as one of the most succsessfull franchieses so for you to say that it would be an overstatement ot call it ONE OF THE BEST u didnt even say THE BEST you say one of the so you dont think my hero has achievet nothing ofc its no one piece or naruto death note etc but you cant say its not one of the best thats just wrong

[@GuyLogen]

@@sondnatsuro7148 I mean in terms of writing. I don't care about the sales. Read the context of my comments man. I said I don't care about the hype and enjoyment. It's popularity is due to coming out during a dry spell of good shows and it filled the gap as a good show. But some people say it's one of the greats or even the greatest. Which I disagree with both. That's all.

[@idk.6306]

13:33 wat a savage 😂

[@Ravemaster620]

I found out about Lupin III from a song called skateboard p. The animation had a certain charm to it which made me want to watch. I was actually suprised at how old it was to be honest.

[@andrewprahst2529]

As a general rule, I would like to classify all shows with "Isekai" in the name as an Isekai anime. Also, you should talk about that's new manga about the girl reincarnated into a spider? It was like "Kumo ga desu ka... Something" Anyway great video.