Slavery in the Bible is Disingenuous | Ryan - Florida | Atheist Experience 23.25

[@SapienSafari]

Damn brother. The verse you’re defending was used to enslave and beat our ancestors. Come on.

[@shorrodmcclain8777]

Yea I'm not finished with this video yet. About half way done and this is bad 😫

[@SapienSafari]

Shorrod McClain Dude. It’s embarrassing.

[@shorrodmcclain8777]

@@SapienSafari Yea. And I live in the South so I'm used to excuse making sigh

[@SapienSafari]

Shorrod McClain Sigh me too bro...welcome to Atlanta where the players play...🙋🏽‍♀️

[@ultramagnus8240]

@@SapienSafari "Where the players play" Y'all killin me 😂😂😂😂

[@SapienSafari]

Today after being told to follow Jesus, again, I told my mother that she was religious because it was forced on our ancestors. Period.

[@patrickpersianni5314]

you are so correct and slave owners force this upon you and took your names for english names,and used the bible all the way up to the civil rights movements about mud people and stupid crap,say you dont have rights or because the color of your skin

[@SapienSafari]

Patrick Persianni Why yes. Yes Patrick.

[@lmoral222]

Hi, I was actually thinking of this topic when watching the video. I'm Filipino, and like the people of your ethnicity, people of my ethnic lineage were also subjugated to religious tyranny by external ethnicities, primarily, the Spanish, hundreds of years ago. I find it incredibly unsettling when I see the elders in my family speaking about god and Jesus, seeing religious statues in almost every family member's house and stuff, because, well, that's a religion brought from an external source. I constantly wonder what the ancients of my bloodline believed in, before the Spanish invasion. Sadly, this information isn't the easiest to find since, like Africa, the land was divided among separate kingdoms and city-states, each with differing cultures, customs and beliefs, according to what's historically available. My people were grand! I'm currently seeking as much info as I can about my people's ancient roots, and I must say, it is totally mind-blowing. The jewelry, clothing, technology, buildings - all so amazing. I'm sure their religious beliefs were equally fascinating, if only purely for just the knowledge of it. Ancient Africa seems totally mind-blowing as well. IDK you personally, or know what you've done, but, if you haven't, I encourage you to learn about your people's history before colonial rule. I'm sure that you, like me, will be totally swept off your feet! So much to learn...so much knowledge and history lost...uncovering the past is almost as exciting as speculation about the future, if looking at the positives. Either way, I wish you and anyone reading this the best :) peace!

[@KingLeno]

Well that's certainly not the only reason. Humans are just predisposed to believe in something. No matter how logically ridiculous it may be.

[@lmoral222]

@@KingLeno Predisposed by other people, sure. I think a more accurate thing to say is that we humans are wired towards curiosity of the unknown; if we're speaking of base level stuff.

[@AdmiralBison]

"If you are a black Christian, you have a real short memory" ~Chris Rock.

[@DudeWhoSaysDeez]

Wow

[@Yeiyn343]

I'm African American and Ex-Christian _and_ Ex-Muslim. Ain't looked back! I'm surprised not many people realized it was just forced onto African slaves and Native Americans, and then passed down the generations.

[@huskyfaninmass1042]

When was Christianity forced upon Ethiopians?

[@paddybeadle9090]

@@huskyfaninmass1042 330AD by King Ezana the Great, when he made it the state religion.

[@bandstem]

@@Yeiyn343 You are so right there, man. They stole your country, family, freedom and life. And to top it off, they forced their ridiculous religion upon you.

[@2l84me8]

It’s heartbreaking to hear a black man defend slavery because of a religion that was forced upon his ancestors.

[@danyellwar77]

As a black woman that was a christian for over 30 yrs. This really made me almost cry. That he hesitated when u asked him if he would be your servant under the same rules. Its gonna take them time but hopefully they see it.

[@garyross4602]

Unfortunately it all boils down to indoctrination, manipulation and brain washing. So called atheistic autocratic and dictatorial political systems learnt everything they need to know from various religions, but in particular the monotheisms, about controlling peoples thoughts and actions. In regards to slavery, it is also true that the repugnant practise predates Judaism and Christianity and has been conducted by every civilisation of every ethnic background and race known to man. Until that fact is accepted the truth about this practice will continue to despoil relationships between peoples, races and nations. That it still exists in various parts of the world is both a stain on human between people and proof that elements of humankind will only change when they are coerced and/or forced too do so.

[@macadon041]

Facts

[@untheist5533]

I’m a 54 y.o. black man & I haven’t believed in this mess since I heard the Noah’s Ark story in Sunday School‼️ I was the kid asking a whole lot of questions. The part of this video that got to me is after Matt asked brother “Is it morally correct to own another person as property?” & he said NO. Which is the only correct answer. THEN HE SAID 👉🏽 “BUT...”‼️ If it’s WRONG it is WRONG. THERE ARE NO ‘BUTS’‼️

[@guitarista67]

These people are a bunch of ignorant assholes.

[@8888-x4t]

Christianity has always been anti-black, gay and free thought. As a white guy I could never see why anyone could support the megalomaniacal lord of the Bible. He is a tyrant and the people who made him are evil.

[@darksoul479]

Even though a million people in this comment section already said this. To hear a black man defending slavery is just heartbreaking.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

For 400 years???? That sounds like a choice...

[@gloriasanchez354]

Honestly, anybody defending slavery is heartbreaking

[@denbecr49]

@@scipioafricanus5871 Is this your alias, Kanye?

[@miconis123]

He firmly believes slavery is wrong but also firmly believes that the Bible is right. That dichotomy is why he had to try saying that the slavery talked about in the Bible wasn't really slavery as we understand it today.

[@broski365]

@@denbecr49 kanye was defending slavery 2 years ago? wow!

[@kam3410]

The worst thing is hearing black people try and defend it. Breaks my heart.

[@CronoXpono]

It absolutely hurts man. I used to laugh but now it hurts to know that people could just DIVE in to this bullshit. :(

[@SapienSafari]

Yes

[@phoebeflanders]

You think that you have the right to comment on how black people should feel about the Bible as a whole. Learn some history and some context and some empathy, and then maybe you can intelligently comment. Otherwise, check your privilege.

[@Hylianmonkeys]

@Great White honestly what a fukwit.

[@StinkyWizleteets]

@@phoebeflanders is exercising her stupidity privlege.

[@johnnyblack4]

I find it amazing how black people, women and homosexuals can be religious.

[@KatKevaKelise]

Johann Swart it’s called delusion. I suffered from it for years.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

@@KatKevaKelise I was raised in the church, grandfather was a deacon, mom reads the Bible on a daily. Y question is HOW THE FUCK can you find this and want me to worship the fucking god that endorsed us being enslaved. Fucking hell

[@natemorgan1996]

I find it sad how they can be religious honestly, and sadly i used to be a Christian

[@karljones7491]

That's what happens when you're brainwashed

[@natemorgan1996]

@@karljones7491 that is true, man

[@AtamMardes]

"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible." Mark Twain

[@AtamMardes]

@AlienFirefox Yes.

[@AtamMardes]

@Bob Smith Most Christians have not read the Bible - they only have been listening to the interpretation made up by the hoaxers who preach the Bible. Atheist have read the Bible. Intellectuals like Mark Twain, Albert Einstein, Isaac Asimov, and Thomas Paine have read the Bible.

[@AtamMardes]

@Bob Smith "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." Isaac Asimov

[@AtamMardes]

@Bob Smith "The Bible, a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish." Albert Einstein

[@AtamMardes]

@Bob Smith “It is not a God, just and good, but a devil, under the name of God, that the Bible describes.” Thomas Paine"

[@jonzun69]

As a black man, I find it very difficult and painful to hear other people of colour and people in general, struggling to justify slavery in the bible! Those same people remember the slavery of our ancestors with pain and are extremely grateful that we no longer have to suffer that way. But just because something is written in the Bible, they will try to justify it, however wrong! I've been an athiest for 30 years now, and I've been following your channel for over 10 years now. Bravo Matt! Keep asking the questions!

[@harveywabbit9541]

Slave, in biblespeak, is the "winter" season when survival depended upon stored food (sun below equator). Freedom, in biblespeak, is the "summer" season when crops were produced (sun above equator). See Galatians four and allegory. The entire bible is pagan mythology.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@ippos_khloros See Exodus 19.3-4, where Zeus takes the form of an Eagle (Aquila constellation) and carries Moses/Ganymede (Aquarius constellation) to the top of a mountain.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@ippos_khloros Read "The Origin of all Religious Worship," by Charles Dupuis and then we can have an intelligent discussion.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@ippos_khloros The entire bible, like the quran, is a fairy tale.

[@ArchonSeachmall]

​@@harveywabbit9541 Congratulations! Have a gold star. That wasn’t what @ippos_khloros was arguing. You wrote that the Holy Fabel is a pagan myth. You supported it with: some bs about allegories and seasons, with “The greek myths have a story like this” and this guy wrote a book about religion. Therefore Bible fake! You seriously lack skills in presenting your own damn point.

[@rachelmarieLMT]

Telling Matt to "calm down"... dude, are you new here? Lol

[@alejandrovillalba3143]

Well, you are extremely gorgeous. Congratulations 😊

[@alejandrovillalba3143]

@@jeziscricket4448 You'd wish to have even a quarter of a tiny fragment of his mind

[@zer-op2gq]

Wish i could like this twice 😂 Well put

[@puckerings]

It's pure tone trolling. Dude knows Matt is owning him, so he has to resort to allegations that Matt is being emotional and irrational.

[@mobilegamersunite]

He didn't even drop that many F bombs today lolol 😂 this was a mellow vid for Matt I think lol

[@KonradZielinski]

"But biblical slavery is not like modern slavery" is the real disengenious argument.

[@7gamex]

I just saw someone recently comment that. Like, for real? The book even tells you how to BEAT your slaves...

[@greatestscott6599]

Not one of those good, _upstanding_ slaveries the lamestream media refuses to talk about 😆

[@manuelescalante8065]

Not really. They were property.

[@briemuss05]

@@7gamex No it doesn’t!

[@7gamex]

@@briemuss05 Yes...it does. Exodus 21:20-21 and Exodus 21:26-27

[@GrimbleBrad]

When Matt gets fired up about slavery...it's guaranteed a good time. I agree with him totally.

[@jeffhart9916]

BordersaneX for a laugh check out Jeff Dee getting upset about burning in hell.

[@Tonyblack261]

@@jeffhart9916 I was just thinking the same thing!

[@alvarogoenaga3965]

@@jeffhart9916 Now that you mention it, I have a little exercise for you to mock the bible. What is worse, being a slave or burning in hell?

[@jeffhart9916]

Alvaro Goenaga I think it is worse to believe in this ridiculous nonsense. Religion is poison! !

[@Omerta_1964]

@@alvarogoenaga3965 This is a easy one! Being a slave because burning in hell is not a reality but slavery is!

[@Saturn554]

What got me was when Matt asked The caller if according to these rules would you be my slave and the guy paused and actually thought about it!!?! WTF?!?!

[@alvarogoenaga3965]

The guy's reaction might have been understandable if Tracy would have asked the question instead of Matt.

[@MacXpert74]

Alvaro Goenaga LOL

[@beatsbyjaeforte]

I know what you mean. It was so disturbing.

[@TlalocW]

Search KZbin for, "GMan destroyed by Matt D at the door." GMan, a Black man, gleefully claims that slavery would be okay if God said it was okay.

[@alvarogoenaga3965]

@@TlalocW . Maybe with him being the slaver. I think I saw that clip too, that G guy is a piece of garbage. Through history there have been slavers and slaves of all colors and races. Needless to say, regardless of race, slavery is immoral.

[@TruthWidgets]

He had the nerve to say "Calm down." 😂

[@kimmygibler760]

Most people try to divert when they are losing a debate.

[@heisenberg1898]

Remember who Hannibal was???? Your ancestors reaped what they sowed. It's called Carma. So calm down.

[@Tirreg88]

I don't agree with the caller, but Matt really had to calm down there. He was a bit fired up and was not listening and interrupting.

[@otterofconfusion3850]

Whenever he said "Calm down", it made me more pissed off. "Calm down? Fuck off man!"

[@efrahome]

TruthWidget I saw it too and Matt is seriously triggered, he really ought to calm down because his position is the right one and that guy should be an ally not an enemy. I found out when you let others speak first you can turn the argument around.

[@Radam89]

‘Thou shalt not own people, and must free slaves in the land you control‘. That wouldn’t have been difficult to write as an 11th commandment. Imagine the suffering that could have been avoided.

[@ringo666]

11th? I'd have made it the one right after "do not murder'.

[@Radam89]

@@ringo666 if we’re playing that game, why not make it the first or second and get rid of the commandments about worshipping no other gods and not making graven images?

[@Radam89]

​@Derrick Crawley Then you don't understand empathy. The problem comes when people think they have the right to own others - such as a God-given right in the Bible which includes rules on how to treat them. No smart-ass comments can change what's written there.

[@Radam89]

@Derrick Crawley You know that the answer to your question isn’t needed right? Let’s say we don’t understand what causes empathy - we can still use it as a tool. Whether or not you view us as a bag of chemicals, whether or not you know what empathy is; we’re bags of chemicals who can empathise and think rationally. Do you defend the Bible’s positions on slavery?

[@Radam89]

​ @Derrick Crawley The simple troll can't differentiate between hypothetical concessions to prove a point, capitulation and whataboutism. Either that, or the simple troll is using standard-issue point scoring techniques. The simple troll then goes on to suggest we use a tool which promotes slavery. It's impossible to have a conversation with a dishonest interlocutor - so I won't be replying until you answer the question from the previous post.

[@Bolgernow]

"I'm coming in with my hands up...because I'm now gonna actually defend Slavery" What breaks my Heart most is Ryan's inability to reason after he knows it is wrong

[@ultrainstinctgoku2509]

Is it wrong though, how so? Can you explain? Then tell me where you got that answer.

[@ultrainstinctgoku2509]

@ammar siddiqui Don't you know our whole world is built on slavery. Slavery still exists today. Did you know that the device your using to comment to me is the work of mental slavery?

[@SapienSafari]

Edit: 75 slave owners disliked this video.

[@littlesmith5005]

Now it's six! I guess six out of 300 ain't bad!

[@redman27597]

Nichole I love you lol. Six slave owners dislike this video.

[@dannysouheaver1931]

Nichole How do you handle the black community being so christian?

[@SapienSafari]

Danny Souheaver I vent on Twitter.

[@trentking1978]

Make it 11 now. Sadly

[@timwilliams8496]

Words alone cannot explain how sad this truly was !

[@thorntonmellon]

Agreed. And you know that Ryan just couldn't let himself see that Matt was right. It was like his brain literally couldn't accept those verses said what they do.

[@sanmigueltv]

Tim Williams I thought I was gonna cry.

[@nicolasandre9886]

@S. gloobal : experiments have demonstrated a few times that amino acids can form spontaneously and very quickly by themselves in the right conditions. What proof that the next step of abiogenesis is impossible do you have in mind?

[@phoebeflanders]

@S. gloobal "Science" doesn't show that at all. You misunderstand what science is and is not. "How sad indeed." You would rather ascribe our origins to magic than natural causes, without a shred of evidence. Believe what you want, but don't appeal to "science" to justify your believe in the supernatural.

[@karendahlquist2629]

@@sanmigueltv Matt was barely holding it together, I thought he wanted to cry.

[@baabaq9126]

This was so pathetic, the amount of mental gymnastics just so you can justify something that is inexcusable

[@Ploskkky]

Slavery was just like a walk in the park in those days. People loved to be slaves and to be punished. It was SM heaven. When you are mistreated and abused "in context" then it is all lovely. God, these theists make me sick with their warped morality.

[@twik2699]

Leland Jumper that documentary made me really sick

[@Ploskkky]

@Leland Jumper I even bought the DVD. It makes me so angry when I watch it.

[@kodisummerville5366]

It's sick when a black man follows the same shit that helped bind his own ppl...its a sickness

[@thegreatlordcthulhu9852]

Theists will say just about anything to defend their god(s) acts & words "You're taking it out of context" "You just don't understand" "Satan has deceived you" "God had _good_ reasons" And my all time favourite : "You're looking at it from a human perspective" Yep, theists typically possess 2 books for life. 1. The _holy_ Bible 2. 1001 excuses for being religiously stupid

[@MrKevart66]

I never tire of listening to Matt. He is a scalpel of logic and reason.

[@marklewis369]

Matt has quickly become one of my favorite human beings on this planet. His passion, knowledge and humanism is breathtaking and a breath of fresh air all at the same time. Super hero status..,

[@kandacesprings]

Mark Lewis agreed

[@samsox69]

Same! He is the one who helped me get out of the chains. I don’t care what people think he really helped me save myself. I’m eternally grateful!

[@emperorsgrandads]

Legend. Almost up there with Hitchens for me.

[@davidburgett551]

I totally agree with your assessment of Matt's ability to be articulate and extremely convincing. He makes for a GREAT debater. I just heard a Pastor Perkins on a FOX News show say that the most recent shooting in Western Texas DOES NOT require more gun control but rather more morals as based on the Bible. He said that as a result of the lack of morals based on the Bible even CHILDREN are being murdered by guns now. Has the good Pastor ever read Psalm 137 ? It actually PROMOTES the brutal murdering of children (infants & babies) !!

[@LeighDWYC]

Mark Lewis yeah man, Matt is a true spokesperson for humanity. First time I ever stumbled across this show was Jeff and Martin which made me want to see more so I let play through to the next clip with Matt and Don - absolutely hooked now

[@daytonwhite9507]

Matt's heart, his love and passion for people he doesn't even know really showed through in this one. So genuine. Love you Matt!

[@zebraimage]

And Christians get call atheists immoral and evil. How crazy!

[@darrickbrown88]

As the Christian showed the opposite

[@LifeIsThePrayer]

That was the best part of the show at the end!

[@HillaryCampbell]

Matt's rant deserves a cookie. That was one of his more amazing and passionate monologues.

[@mattjindrak]

I deserve a cookie

[@reparter1327]

@@mattjindrak 🍪

[@Damai2100]

"There was slavery back in those days". Slavery still exists. This guy has a very blinkered view of the world.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

yeah it's called human trafficking.

[@mszyanya7161]

@@Gadget-Walkmen it’s also called the prison system as stated in the constitution.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@mszyanya7161 yeah I know that but that really doesn’t apply in terms of how people know what slavery to be. That’s more have to do with the punishment system.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@mszyanya7161 It's also called Minimum Wage and real estate speculation.

[@ScottCastle]

I used to be just like Ryan. A fool stuck in my own ignorance. So glad that I managed to realize that.

[@voiceoftruth2646]

Nothing has changed, you're still a FOOL and still ignorant.

[@forallthestupidshit3550]

May I ask you what it took for you to become an unbeliever?

[@forallthestupidshit3550]

@@voiceoftruth2646 and you are a giant asshole. Way to represent the faith you hold for the rest of us. Makes it easier for the rest of us to know who to spend time around.

[@voiceoftruth2646]

@@forallthestupidshit3550 That's easy, atheism requires a belief in magic.

[@forallthestupidshit3550]

@@shrimpgripper Thank you

[@SuperTreemendus]

"All scripture is god breathed" Then God's breath stinks.

[@igotstoknow2]

Nonbelievers have unlimited ways to live to ensure their trashed eternities. Why do you encourage others to do the same?

[@Magar6]

@@igotstoknow2 If you believe the Bible is a good book, you yourself have become evil and immoral.

[@larjkok1184]

CauseAndEffect You’ll burn in Hell.

[@AH-vm8yo]

If God supposedly gave us morality and we know that slavery and stoning people is wrong then perhaps it was the devil who wrote it and god was testing to see if you would defend evil as god apparently gave us the ability to question and to seek out our own knowledge why would he do that if he didn't want us to question things.

[@brianmi40]

@@igotstoknow2 For the same EXACT reasons you don't worship ALLAH, ZEUS, ZARATHUSTRU, APHRODITE and 1,000 other gods you are an ATHEIST TOWARD. How stupid is it that out of 1,000 plus religions, you're "SURE" you picked the right one, when in a 5 minute video it PROVES your book supports SLAVERY. Better PICK AGAIN idiot.

[@DudeOnADualMotor]

God I've never seen Matt go that hard on something you can see how pained and frustrated he was.. wow

[@airbrat]

I agree. In most cases its best to bench your emotions when engaging in a volatile subject but to see Matt's passion and genuine frustration was a true holy shit moment for me. Matt can be raw but this was well warranted.

[@JohnPKING-nj8nc]

"God I've never seen Matt go that hard on something you can see how pained and frustrated he was.. wow" I;ve gotten a little testy myself lately with people on youtube discussions, especially when people from the side who insist that the Bible is the literal word start to feel imposed upon the inconvenience of it all. I did feel bad about some of the things I said but was reading about French Canada where they have a very, very pronounced tendency to curse so many things about the Catholic Church, the tabernacle where the host that is literally the body of Jesus, they curse everything, the sacraments, they curse Mary the mother of God, they say f**k Jesus, f** the host, everything, they take it to a different level. I think some of it goes back to the intensity of the religious wars where one side ( the Catholic side ) succeeded only by brute force meaning decades and decades of butchering Hugenouts who were finally subdued. It took centuries before people had the courage to speak their minas and it has been coming out profusely since the 1800's and they weren't even talking about slavery. Imagine arguing the way the people here are arguing and it reaches the point where people took up arms.

[@Omerta_1964]

Just watching and listening to it fired /enraged me up! I was practically screaming at the screen "WTF is wrong with you!" to that caller. I cannot believe what i heard. tragic!

[@OfficialSeth]

Imagine living in 2019 and still trying to defend slavery. Years ago a Christian told me that slavery in the Bible, and slavery in general, was pretty much the same thing as being employed. So I asked him if he would be ok with his employer owning himself, his spouse, his kids and all of his property. He said, "Hell no!!!!" What's wrong? If slavery is good enough for your holy book then it should be good enough for you too.

[@danielgautreau161]

In Leviticus there is a long continuous stretch of pages of rules about slavery, including "The children born of your slaves are also your slaves".

[@garydamberger]

Imagine a system where an employer who could beat you.

[@stephenolan5539]

@@danielgautreau161 I think that is only if the owner finds a wife for his slave. IIRC if the slave has a wife and child when he get owned then he can keep the wife and children if he gets freed.

[@danielgautreau161]

@Minh Khang Vu No. I invite you to read it.

[@anonymouse4793]

@@stephenolan5539 Yes that is the way it reads. Still immoral to own people as property which the bible condones. The reason the bible condones slavery is because the mostly unknown authors of the bible were most likely slave owners. The rich were much more literate than the common folk and able to buy slaves. They wouldn't want to impede their bottom line. $$$

[@larryborsa4396]

This guy is the one who is flat out disingenuous, on everything.

[@artje123]

Larry Borsa Yeah that’s what this whole episode is about. That’s actually pretty much always the conclusion about the person calling in.

[@MannyKunV]

actually had a conversation with a religious fella and i brought up the slavery in the bible. he said it wasnt true, showed him passages, he said jesus came to change it, showed him passages of jesus supporting it. then he tried to say its talking about being an employee at a shitty job. kept asking him why it says 'slave' and not 'employee of a shitty job'. conversation went no where because he kept trying to say 'slave' meant 'employee'. last i check your employer cant lay a finger on you or its a law suit for them and the company

[@vern1101]

It's crazy cause christians do backflips trying to justify every immoral shit in the Bible. Even the immoral things that they don't support. God must have his reasons. After all he is a perfect being and we mere humans could never understand

[@truthisoutthere2104]

Religions are poison and they try to justify the evil that embrace the world

[@fogsmart]

@@vern1101 maybe the real God, if there is such an entity, has very little to do with the bible. If the God of the bible is indeed the true God, well, crap, this is one screwed up universe.

[@basildraws]

@@fogsmart yeah, that right there is a great first step on the path to disproving all religions. Remember, Christianity wasn’t the 1st religion. It came from Judaism, which also wasn’t 1st. Every religion comes from a previous one that was found to be lacking and then rewritten into a less terrible version. The gods of the old version became the devils of the new version. So of course, as our cultural morality evolves and improves, we find faults with the holy books written by our ancestors. We could revise the Bible to leave out all the terrible crap in it and create a new and better religion with a new and better god. And a 1000 years from now we’d be back in the same place because of course our cultural morality will have evolved and changed again by then. People, Christians and Muslims and all modern religious people, act like their book, their religion is the pinnacle of theism, or that it’s the only possible truth… forgetting that mankind has for 15,000 years been inventing magical sky wizards to fill the gaps in their understanding and relieve their fear of death and not a single one has had any basis in fact and it never will.

[@hughjanus2781]

Should’ve showed him this: Leviticus 25:39-43 If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to you, do not make them work as slaves.(A) 40 They are to be treated as hired workers(B) or temporary residents among you; they are to work for you until the Year of Jubilee. 41 Then they and their children are to be released, and they will go back to their own clans and to the property(C) of their ancestors.(D) 42 Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt,(E) they must not be sold as slaves. 43 Do not rule over them ruthlessly,(F) but fear your God

[@TheBiostacle]

Caller; you are taking Exodus out of context.... Matt; Hold my beer.....

[@kiaharper7172]

😂😂😂

[@Hylianmonkeys]

😭👍

[@meeder78]

Hold my Coke Zero in this case ;-)

[@colindickson8034]

@@meeder78 cant give enough likes. Lol

[@amberblackwell7687]

Here's my thing. In WHAT context is owning another person as your property morally permissible?

[@Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo]

I've never seen Matt genuinely upset and disappointed at someone. I've seen him get mad or annoyed, but nothing like this.

[@quinn799]

Gavin Blackshear watch the other slavery one

[@michaelmarini94]

@@quinn799 Can you be a bit more specific? 😊

[@AllieAshmead]

As a black person, I am ashamed of that caller. Clearly in denial or reality. He don't even know he's free.... Thank you, Matt!

[@christopherianlister5212]

as a white person I'm embarrassed 4 him...

[@edheal3246]

It makes me cry when someone tries to justify slavery

[@kurtmcdonald7113]

"I'm not a slave to a god that doesn't exist" -Marilyn Manson

[@voiceoftruth2646]

PROVE He doesn't exist. You made a claim, now back it.

[@jkryanspark]

@@voiceoftruth2646 Why does it matter to you? The Christians I know who are the most secure in their beliefs never proselytize. Why the itch?

[@sebastianfeuerstein9306]

@@voiceoftruth2646 The burden of proof is on you, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, just cuz someone can't prove the existence of something doesn't mean that it exists, you're committing a logical fallacy. Prove that fairies, bigfoot, the abominable snowman, Santa Claus and leprechauns don't exist. (Thought so)

[@voiceoftruth2646]

@@sebastianfeuerstein9306 I agree, and believing dead matter can come to life for no reason all by itself is an extraordinary claim with atheism. So prove it.

[@sebastianfeuerstein9306]

@@voiceoftruth2646 Yeah, we still don't have a clear understanding of how consciousness works, so I'll give you that. And just cuz we don't understand how something works doesn't mean that a God is behind it, long ago ppl used to believe that lightning was caused by gods until science was able to explain it. Even if the universe was created by some God, why does it have to be your particular God, why can't it be a Hindu God, why can't it be Allah, Buddha, Zeus? And just cuz a book says that your God is the right one doesn't mean that it's true, if that's the case, then everything in Harry Potter books is true, right?

[@hegyak]

This is why I am an Anti-Theist. Religion, Christianity in this instance, caused the caller to literally try and defend slavery. And, to not outright say, "No. Slavery is bad." Because if the caller did that, then He would have been saying "God's Word, is bad." Matt, said it best starting at 12:21 The caller was so into his beliefs that he could not or would not accept that his religious text could possibly be bad.

[@nonoozabletodogmaisaiah4577]

This is exactly why I became an apostate before I realized I was an atheist anti-theist humanist skeptic and a happy happy mother for the first time in my life. Christopher Hitchens has the gospel. "Religion ruins everything."

[@RonSafreed]

China had black slavery 1400 years & brought there by the Arabs & no one talks about this slavery.

[@protheonovo]

Under no circumstances can he allow himself to question his beliefs. Questions lead to uncomfortable introspection so faith must be defended at all costs.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Otherwise you would be disingenuous.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Paul, in Galatians four, explains that slavery, in the bible, is allegorical. There are no humans in this book of Pagan mythology.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@ady nails Calm down, the entire bible is a work of myth and the first page of Genesis reveals this.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@Thomas Campbell The bible is a big fairy tale used to fuck over the suckers. When god speaks, it is the voice of a lying priest.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@ady nails Slavey, in the bible, is nothing more than the "winter" season, when people were dependent upon the months of crop production.. All major churches realize the bible is bull shit...it's just a means to scam the ignoramuses.

[@desertguy395]

These poor callers; once they start stuttering it's all over.

[@betsyduane3461]

I as an atheist know 10000x more about the Christian religion than my Christian friends and family, and it drives them nuts.

[@Later_Doober]

And I 10000% agree with you. Christians don't ever want to talk about all the bad stuff in the bible, they just want to pick and choose stuff in their bible to try to make them look good. This is why they actually need to read the bible.

[@johnsperry9494]

@@Later_Doober “The road to atheism is littered with bibles that have been read cover to cover."--Andrew L. Seidel “Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool.” ― Mark Twain “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” ― Isaac Asimov "Atheism is what happens when you read the bible. Christianity is what happens when somebody else reads it for you." Robert G. Ingersoll.

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

@@johnsperry9494Excellent selection, thank you.

[@renil295]

Soooo glad I don't belong to this insane cult..

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

Never did and NEVER will ! ........................

[@Sergei_kv82]

@@ralfhaggstrom9862 it was shoved in my face as child, I support views over this in komsomol always has and happy

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

Da daa tavarits, ..........................,@@Sergei_kv82

[@Sergei_kv82]

@@ralfhaggstrom9862 as older it is clear as glass. Immoral ancient ideology

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

Known that for 64 years ..........................@@Sergei_kv82

[@yourfavoriteblendedfamily2218]

This guy just refused to listen 🤦🏽‍♂️ that was supremely embarrassing

[@SapienSafari]

Embarrassing as hell

[@fashizzle78]

It's sickenin

[@jsmall10671]

TBF, Matt also talked all over him and wouldn't let him get his point out so that Matt could show him he was wrong. Matt directs the conversations too much. I know, he says he doesn't want to waste everyone's time, but these people calling in have specific things they want to say and if Matt talks all over them and mutes them, they're going to feel like Matt didn't listen to *their* point.

[@dougcasey6117]

@@jsmall10671 I see it as it's no point to sit and allow the callers to go on and bury the topic in piles of horse crap, that you then have vainly attempt to sift through mountains while they continue to pile on inane tons of incredulous stupidity. You have to talk over them because Christians know they have no defense, so they become aggressors. All history shows that he that requests us to accept on faith the insane and inexcusable, will eventually turn violent in the process which proves my point we must be aggressive and to not be so is to be bullied that is a foregone conclusion. Matt is correct you make a point it gets dealt with as is first, we already have to step down the ladder and give them a hand by pretending for a moment there is this deity in the first place... So we've been kind upfront in just doing that.

[@Omerta_1964]

Yeah that is the scariest part about the MInd control/ brainwashing of religion! All logic and true morality goes out the window and they put ear plugs in! They refuse to listen to any common sense. I do not know how that caller can look in a mirror? wtf?

[@coolcatcass10]

I’ve never seen Matt get this emotional, and I feel equally as passionate about it. I can’t believe anyone believes and defends this crap 🙄

[@michaelmannucci8585]

It makes me laugh because, as an atheist, getting emotional about "immorality" betrays his fundamental presuppositions about the universe and human beings.

[@nothingand779]

​@@michaelmannucci8585 You are a chrsitian

[@michaelmannucci8585]

@@nothingand779 Absoultely I am!

[@juanausensi499]

@@michaelmannucci8585 Do you think atheists aren't moral? Oh, well, of course you do.

[@michaelmannucci8585]

@@juanausensi499 Some of them, like everyone, yes. But there's a difference between being moral and being able to give a foundation for morality. I am happy that many atheists live inconsistently with what they claim to believe.

[@BlahBlooBlee4205]

He protecc He attacc But most importantly He owns that theist's ass

[@zimbothemagnificent]

Henrik as long as he doesn't knock their teeth or eyes.

[@Eyrie007]

Honestly, Matt is a hypocrite he talks about slavery all the time, but he still owns theists regularly. What a jerk!

[@lmoral222]

Man, Matt was fired up on this one! Very well done, SIR !

[@JamesRichardWiley]

I think Matt is finally running out of patience struggling against religious mental illness.

[@mahanubhavs9980]

Don't call them slaves, they are prisoners with jobs - Jeff goldblum (Thor Ragnarok)

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

Tor Ragnarök ...........

[@sandraarriaga832]

Christians should take a history lesson, not from the Bible.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Disingenuous: "Not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. Ryan is forced to be disingenuous to defend his belief in a Bronze Age god worshiped by Hebrew tribes living in the Sinai Desert.

[@madiej.7516]

You are no joke! You dropped the mic too many times on this caller. Love it. Love being freed!!

[@nahuelkid]

Matt losing his shit was so beautiful.

[@anthonylong9067]

nahuelkid if only Jeff Dee was still there.

[@jimmythebold589]

@@anthonylong9067 hah, i miss jeff... talk heathen guy also lost his cool with a previous caller, hah. i've never seen him do that, lol... cheers!

[@d-hunter9801]

@@anthonylong9067 Matt and Jeff was the perfect combination in this show in my opinion. It was funny seeing Matt and Jeff (a natural grumpy dude) lose their shit, funny as hell. Too bad Jeff isn't in the show anymore, damn I miss that guy.

[@marcelkuizenga]

This is Matt's best work to me! World class hero! Learn believers, this is the way to think!

[@piotrorkisz]

"I wake up everyday, every single day, in a World with a majority of people believing bad shit crazy stuff that is also evil and contributes to the destruction of society" Love it, Matt. I'm sure that despite we live on opposite sites of the Earth we do live in a same World. Welcome to reality. It bites.

[@GSP-76]

This video should be required viewing for all children in school. Easily one of the best calls I've seen Matt do.

[@hero6677]

This has to be my favorite moment of matt, ever. The passion and the emotion displayed. And the amount of problems with religioun displayed in full face. Its beautiful.

[@ryanwood6754]

Love Eric’s reaction trying to save him then the guy says “the bible doesn’t say you can beat slaves” and Eric does a quick 180 and says “oh man now you brought this on yourself” as matt let’s it rip hahaha

[@Captain_Vornskr]

Thank you for what you guys do. Your channel helped free me from mormonism. Keep it up.

[@Puleczech]

Good for you man!

[@LovelessOokami]

Congrats! I’m happy to hear that!

[@canderson5098]

48 hours later and Ryan is still holding the phone wondering what to say

[@Ometecuhtli]

Waiting for god's advice, probably...

[@siren2003]

Hes probably doing this uhhhhhh slaves are ok i wouldn't mind being someones slave but please dont beat me

[@jeffhart9916]

c anderson he is still trying to figure out what is wring with Exodus 21. His brain, like most religious people cannot grasp it!

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@jeffhart9916 no, he KNOWS it's wrong, he just can't admit it. That's why he's making so many excuses and hesitating to answer Matt's question.

[@Shazam5G]

"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again." Exodus 21: 7-8

[@electricspark5271]

Daughters have been sold by their families for thousands of years. We called them dowries. Even in China today they practice the same customs. The point if the dowry is to offer the would be groom a good beginning for his daughter and new spouse to begin their life togeather. A means to purchase a home and land and form a family. We used to practice the same customs in America and the UK. Also, the rules of servitude applied not only to Jews but also to gentiles, including those from conquered nations. As a matter of fact once the years of jubilee were over the house master was required to offer the servant supplies and money to start a new life. None of these words your reading will you comprehend. Because you're not a scholar of history but a slave to your pastor, Matt Dilihunty

[@electricspark5271]

All of this information about the Hebrews is available in the Tanakh. I know for a fact you have not, nor will not read historical texts because it would break your narrative and cause you to actually think about history, etymology, and hyperbolical meanings. It's much easier for you to listen to idiocy than to challenge the status quo and actually read for yourself. I understand though, like you, I was an atheist until I made the choice to challenge my personal baism and stop listening to everyone else and read....

[@willman18696]

@@electricspark5271 just because it happened long ago, culturally or even nowadays automatically make it Moral? Also, tell me why should we worship a book written from men? Because we don't agree with the Bible or any religion for that matter, what makes us wrong? Your anger towards Matt is condescending. For one thing, Matt is not a Pastor, but just someone who doesn't agree with the majority religious views. Also Matt did pretty much say everything you did just not verbatim and he is pretty damn sharp and if you feel like you have something to say to rebut just call in, that would be very entertaining...we are very lucky to have Matt defend athiesm... Look, just saying that the fact that the bible allows slavery should discredit people from worshipping it like they do today. It's like poison...

[@electricspark5271]

@@willman18696 "Matt said everything I said, just not verbatum. He's pretty sharp" You assert we said the same thing yet he's smart and I'm dumb? I'm confused, do you actually read the idiocy that you type before you hit send? What you have is an IQ problem... 😂😂 you're trying to hard! Matt and I said absolutely nothing similar. He is being 100% disingenuous. He rarely let's anyone finish their thoughts before berating them into submission, and he always goes 2 vs 1. Why? I'll tell you why, because every real theological discussion he goes 1vs1 on the stage with well informed biblical scholars he gets schooled. What's his answer to his ego? He makes a 2 vs 1 scenario and goads people into calling him so he can sell you his narrative, books , and affirm your personal bias. You know is it's true, you just won't admit it because you're naive and scared of you're personal detachment from what you know.

[@elegantoddity8609]

@@electricspark5271 Ok well I've seen him debate, as well as do it solo so that's a lie right there. This mainly seems to be accusations. Again, everyone else does it, is not an argument. We don't exactly look to China for good rules about how to treat children do we? And assuming that the Jubilee releases gentiles, I have to ask this. If I locked you up and forced you to do my bidding for 50 years, am I a good person if I give you money afterwards to go live out the remainder of your life? Ignoring the whole beating you to death thing.

[@homophilosofikus8215]

"But our slavery is the good kind of slavery" - Hypocrites

[@cshubs]

I'm waiting for the caller who, when asked why he believes, say, "Because I was brainwashed as a child."

[@silverwolf2676]

You’re going to be waiting a long time since they will only use that word to describe other groups methods of getting kids to believe.

[@neonshadow5005]

Matt nails it there when he says what's actually happening is the dude realizes he can't argue it without defying his fictional God, so he becomes frozen.

[@TheDahaka1]

We have more punishing laws for cruelty against animals than the bible has for cruelty against slaves. That's... that's something...

[@ryanmarquez9404]

They just cant admit that something in the bible is wrong lol it's so painful and cringe.

[@igotstoknow2]

Nothing in the Bible is wrong. All of it has the purpose to save people in Christ Jesus. Everything in atheism is evil. Evil moves people away from God.

[@natemorgan1996]

@@igotstoknow2 Do you know how fucking stupid you sound saying that?

[@TheSufferBrothers2]

@@igotstoknow2 - You can't move people away from fuck all.

[@josephjoestar5654]

@@igotstoknow2 so let's start beating children close to death now since its in the bible, right?

[@rwk808]

@@igotstoknow2 👀😵‍💫this must be a joke

[@TheActualPES]

Matt, you never ever fail to impress me. This was actually really emotional.

[@plumbmaster7022]

I feel Matt's aggravation, I'm sure it riles up us ex christians more for several reasons. I try to avoid the subject but the bitterness of the lies brings me back in the fight.

[@jayt829]

Eric + Matt = Beautiful Duo

[@prothewful]

Matt, you are correct - such a shame some people defend evil. You are a breath of clarity

[@stevenb8611]

Am I the only one that loves when Pope Matt goes on a perfect, succinct rant pointing out how easy it is to be moral?

[@incarnate478]

Steven B he’s an amazing speaker

[@francoisona]

I so understand Matt's rage. I go through the same thing everytime I raise it with street preachers. Here is Ryan - a BLACK MAN trying to justify slavery. Shame on him! He pisses on the memory on the suffering of his people! SHAME ON HIM! SHAME ON HIM! Thank you Matt.. You ve been bringing slavery up for years. I know it's tiring but please continue. Genius how you used the cop beating a black man analogy.

[@phoebeflanders]

Why do you focus on the ethnicity of the caller? Are you the enlightened white man trying to bring earning to the benighted black folks? Examine your privilege and maybe try some humility

[@francoisona]

@@phoebeflanders 1. My colour of skin is irrelevant here. A pink alien with purple spots on his backside that owned an American history book would be equally right in shaming Ryan. 2. Ryan's colour of skin is very relevant here. It places a responsibility on him to have a greater unique insight into the abomination that is slavery. 3. Did I mention that my dad is black? Well he is. Not that it matters 4. You're a presumptuous imbecil. You and Ryan should hang out.

[@Hylianmonkeys]

@@francoisona 👍

[@davidkosa]

Matt, you have outdone yourself with this one. Kudos for your passion, your well-chosen words and your strength.

[@richardgreen1491]

Matt, this is one of your best arguments ever! And that's a high bar to reach!

[@TheRealFumigator]

I love how Eric asked for a little bit of introspection and the caller couldn't even let down his agenda for even 1 second to consider it.

[@thorshammer128]

To me, one of the most poisonous aspects about religion, is that it causes a otherwise smart and honest person to adopt the most immoral and bizarre positions imaginable......and then they become dishonest by just making stuff up in order to not be wrong in their minds. To this day I still don’t understand why my fellow Black brothers and sisters embrace a theology that’s partially responsible for generations of torment that our ancestors went through. However, slavery in the Bible is besides the point......because of the lack of any measurable evidence, I’m not convinced that “anything” can exist beyond a physical universe. Matt said it best on one of the older episodes......”God either doesn’t want me to know that it exist, or it doesn’t exist”. That statement couldn’t be anymore true, because in both scenarios, the effects are exactly the same.

[@RonSafreed]

China had black slavery 1400 years & brought there by the Arabs & no one talks about this slavery.

[@jasonwitte9582]

Man, that diatribe by Matt at about the nine minute mark was SPOT ON! And, for me, his best explanation. Bravo, Mr. Dillahunty. Bravo! *applause* EDIT: I just finished watching the entire video and this was amazing! I still say Bravo, Mr. Dillahunty, but it's now a standing ovation. :)

[@gFamWeb]

I'm sad he didn't get to answer the question "why didn't God just prohibit slavery?"

[@silverwolf2676]

Surely you know he would have tried to dodge the question

[@FINESTGAMER100]

@@9432515 and beating slaves is protection to you?!yeah ok

[@pedroheilel130]

As a modern BLACK GAY GENTILE, I cringed the whole video. That guy tried to justify the unjustifiable and I'm VERY sorry for him and that's what makes me sad to my stomach when I think of the YEARS I was a believer. Smh

[@jaygill5582]

God creates gays... God hates gays for being gay! (Typical murican Christian logic)

[@flea8332]

i do not know why but listening to this made me very angry then emotional by the end if i didn't fight it back i think i would have cried. I can understand Matt when he says this breaks his heart

[@vCoralSandsv]

Same

[@carlos4477]

yes, same here.

[@ConcealedCourier]

Honestly, it gets me emotional too. To hear Matt put that question out there, and to hear the drone like response of restating his argument.

[@bonchbonch]

NEVER stop bringing up Exodus 21. It's one of the most obviously immoral parts of the book, and the squirming cognitive dissonance of its supporters should be endlessly challenged.

[@JohnattandelaTrinidad]

Matt’s eyes when telling I wake up everyday in a world … men he’s trying. It is heartbreaking seen everyone else suffering from its own blindness.

[@Freethinker_94]

Yep

[@DenyThisFlesh]

It's amazing the way people will twist and contort their minds to try to justify slavery because of the bible.

[@sidselnilsestuen6570]

you can give me superman , batman, ironman, thor or even hulk. but the man i want is matt. he is my hero.

[@fishmayne3327]

I'll take batman. I mean don't get me wrong here, Matt is a great guy, but having batman protect your city...by golly!

[@rembrandt972ify]

You do know he's divorced now, right?

[@FlCracker-Atheist]

I think this is the video I'll finally show my parents. My phone almost melted from Matt's intensity! I hate to use this, but as a fellow former Baptist it's the only thing that expresses me correctly at the moment: Preach it Brother Matt!👏👏👏

[@Puleczech]

So how has it worked out?

[@RonSafreed]

China had black slavery, brought there by the Arabs for 1400 years & no one talks about this.

[@wolf1066]

*Keep* "harping" on slavery, Matt. Don't stop until we reach a point that all people understand that what the bible prescribes on the ownership and "disciplining" of other humans is indefensibly immoral. What gets to me is the number of people who acknowledge that the passages are immoral and then turn right around and try to spin it so that they're somehow "OK" anyway.

[@wolf1066]

@foxfireman188 It's one of the most deplorable things I can think of - in a book filled with some pretty damned deplorable things. You could argue that murdering someone - as foul as that is - harms them *_less_* than enslaving them

[@vyzion]

Matt you are one of my heroes. Keep up the good work!

[@davemash82]

All I can say is Amen! 🙏 well done Matt 👍 I've watched Matt for a couple of years, I've seen him mad, calm, collected, upset... never have I seen such a powerful statement about the excuses people make for the sake of their book. Thanks Matt 👍🏆

[@SlideRulePirate]

The Tap Dance is strong with this one.

[@mofobecks]

Exactly this! My dad is such a devout Christian and I want to show him this but I fear for what it would do to him. He’s spent his entire life worshipping an absolutely immoral concept

[@Mirko1960H]

It's never to late for truth...

[@senvestoj]

"Oh, you brought this on yourself."

[@dinohall2595]

Did you just endorse your own comment?

[@viasevenvai]

Yet again Matt’s love reaches out to another. This is why he’s so powerful. It’s not a “gotcha” it’s a life line.

[@n2dabloo]

Any Christian, “Yeah but we live under a new covenant” Face...palm...

[@tiatrips]

Which is totally irrelevant, considering that the only thing Jesus changed was animal sacrifice. I'm sure you know that, I'm just taking the long way to agree with you.

[@miconis123]

Yep "That's the Old Testament/Covenant". God is supposed to be unchanging and yet changed? Is that how it works?

[@militeghebre5386]

@@tiatrips what about the ten commandments?

[@tiatrips]

@@militeghebre5386 What of them? If the Old Testament doesn't apply, then neither do they. But Christians don't like to acknowledge that logic, so it gets glossed over.

[@militeghebre5386]

@@tiatrips oh ok yeah true. If the old doesn't apply the new even allows slavery as well I think.

[@dessopopp]

Yes hello, I would like to speak to the CEO of Slavery!😭

[@liamvosu3223]

Mr Yahweh is currently unavailable. When would you like to book a appointment?

[@applecore8978]

"It's a bad idea don't do it." Lmao

[@brotherga977]

Not to mention the silent no and head shake...lol it's really heart breaking

[@attilakucserka7062]

This is the Matt we need!

[@mikevieira8583]

So sad. Keep fighting the good fight, Matt!

[@The_Chef2511]

"Malachites?" Trying to keep track of all the tribes put to the sword by the deranged genocidal barbarians guided by the all loving god is like trying to remember all the times Picard said "Make it so."

[@FakingANerve]

The hardest part of this video might be the silences. If you turn the volume up to max, you can almost hear the struggle, the cognitive dissonance. Jesus... that was rouuuugh!

[@mattjindrak]

"Jesus...that was rouuuugh!" That's what the man himself said when he rose on the third day.

[@rhondah1587]

@@mattjindrak Actually it would have been a day and a half at most. LOL If it happened which is doubtful. BTW sacrifices usually stayed dead and didn't just have a bad weekend. However, any so-called god who needs a human sacrifice to appease it because it demands human or even animal blood is not worthy of worship. Vicarious redemption is also immoral.

[@jfurl5900]

I wish I had matts patience .

[@silverwolf2676]

What, talking over them every 10 seconds? Still better than I’d do, I’d be talking over them every 3 seconds and cursing every 5

[@markvonwisco7369]

I hurts my heart to regularly hear African Americans defend Biblical slavery.

[@dinohall2595]

Instant classic, this segment is sure to go down in AXP history.