5 Reasons we can't follow the Gospel and the Law at the same time

[@The_verb_of_love]

When i was trying to follow Torah I couldn't focus on Christ. And I was constantly worried I wasn't really saved.

[@bobreese4807]

You don't know what "saved" means yet

[@johnjones8112]

​@@bobreese4807"work out your own salvation with fear and trembling"..... Christians: "I am saved and can disobey all I want because HE knows my heart." PS... David Wilbur is not a good representative of HIS remnant.

[@nickylouse2]

@@johnjones8112 if you are saved by your obedience, how much obedience is "good enough"? Do you see where that line of thinking must take us? There is no assurance that you can ever be obedient enough. My point is that only God can justify us, making it "just as if we had never sinned" as many people like to think of it. That must be true both before a point in time when faith is given by God to us and after. For if God is truly sovereign, He must have the sole prerogative to save whom He will at His own choosing. If He is not sovereign, specifically over whether we accept His gracious offer, then we slip into a philosophical argument of Pelagian, who argued that we are only "sin-sick" and not "dead in our sins".

[@johnjones8112]

@@nickylouse2 repent >of what

[@nickylouse2]

@@johnjones8112 I can say "Amen". We should repent (of sin) as a matter of sanctification. And yes, absolutely, sin is the transgression of Torah and any other commandments given by Messiah. But as for whether our disobedience has any effect on our justification, it cannot - it MUST not. Otherwise, we are all still dead in our sins without any justification and the sacrifice by Yeshua was ineffective for anyone.

[@bornofJesusblood]

Excellent teaching. Who could argue with that??? I am so grateful for the simplicity of Jesus. Thank you brother

[@AlRay-qh2eb]

You wouldn't believe JESUS if you saw him infront of you

[@jeramilltua-requena1497]

i love and admire the spirit of grace, truth, and humility as you speak about others even while disagreeing with them! truly this is the ".. fruit of the spirit" and the "...love, against which there is no law."

[@williamdecamp7343]

You do an excellent job of teaching. Your videos helped me to leave Adventism, which is just like Hebrew Roots.

[@Musicalpa]

While Adventism has similarities to Hebrew Roots, it's absolutely not the same and is a flat out occult with their own false teacher with her own so called writings. I'm happy to hear you've left Adventism. However, I wish to encourage you to be very careful not to be deceived. Hebrew Roots too has drifted away from the truth, even to the point of denying the deity of the Messiah in some movements within Hebrew Roots. Personally, myself and those in the community I fellowship with refer to ourselves as Messianic solely because it mirrors much of what we believe. Messianic isn't part of the Hebrew Roots movements. However, when we describe ourselves, we simply say we are disciples of the Messiah, studying God's Word to know and live out God's Word just as it's written. If you'd like to learn more, an outstanding resource I would highly encourage you to check out is torahresource.com/ I have found Lex Meyers to be quit good also on his KZbin channel. Shalom

[@odhiambokevine7843]

You're right.

[@givethanks6714]

yeah, there is some of the same bondage, but they argue very differently at some points.

[@marybrosseuk2144]

100%. I left Adventism before I found Dr. Solberg, but wow, has he helped me with the garbage that tries to raise its ugly head from time to time, left over from those teachings. His teaching is clear, and most importantly delivered with kindness and humility, and fully biblical.

[@Jaco3688]

@@marybrosseuk2144. My wife is SDA. Prof Solberg’s systematic articulation has helped to crystallize the points which sink the SDA boat.

[@katiec6828]

My husband and I's best friends (a married couple) have fully embraced torah keeping. We were in the process of starting a new ministry together. It started with him just saying he wanted to eat biblically, observe the feasts and rest on Saturday. Him and his wife fought about it to the point of separation. My friend told me last week she 'has seen the light' and will start following the torah. She said she will hand over all the paperwork for our ministry. Its like a punch to the gut to have someone you are very close with (best of friends) tell you they can no longer be involved in ministry with you and don't know how to proceed as friends over this. They say we can't follow all of the torah and they're trying to 'figure out' which parts still apply to us today. When i ask questions and show them verse after verse they say they are still searching out the answers. Which tells me its something they've just decided is correct and will twist scripture to make it fit. The gospel is simple to understand. It doesn't take years of trying to figure it out. God doesn't want us confused! Thank you for the work you do. When i first heard about their beliefs, your videos really helped me to understand a lot. You really are doing the Lord's work. God bless you!

[@salpezzino7803]

Sorry However, God uses Cults to remove Goats from His Bride. Sad, but maybe a Blessing for you and your Ministry. Jesus will not lose His sheep, if they dont return, they were Never His

[@bobreese4807]

So define the gospel and what is its purpose?

[@salpezzino7803]

@@bobreese4807 what is your point? Are you a Cultist? 1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.

[@jamesbarksdale978]

It can be much like a cult.

[@educational4434]

I once believed as they do, but the key to opening my understanding was a teaching on whether we were under the law or not. And the answer is that we are no longer under the law, that is all of Moses and the ten commandments, but we are now under the Law of Christ, which includes most of the ten commandments and more. That's when I understood. We are to keep the commands of Christ and we are under the law of Christ. So do we practice lawlessness as the Hebrew roots tell us we do? Certainly not. We are not lawless. We do have a law. We are under a law. We are under a set of laws. And those laws are the commands of Jesus and his interpretations and explanations of most of the ten commandments. He taught the spirit of the law, not the letter of it. And he did not explicitly teach Sabbath-keeping, so it is as he said, that the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath, and that he, Jesus, is Lord of the Sabbath (in other words, he gets to explain how and whether we are to keep it after his resurrection, and it appears that his answer is that he is the Sabbath rest, so that your belief in him enters you into that rest, as the Sabbath was a shadow fulfilled in Jesus)

[@kareng3655]

great teaching. I was getting "sucked into the Hebraic Roots ideas by a Messianic Teacher. He used scriptures to support his opionions and they seem to make perfect sense.He presents very strong arguments for following the laws of Moses. I watched a video on Hebrews 9 by the Professor Solberg and clearly showed me that we don't need to follow the laws of Moses. This whole do we need to keep the law of Moses has been going on for 2000 plus years. I think this Hebraic Roots movement is a very strong delusion in the church today and is gaining speed and confusing many Christians. Thanks Professor Solberg for these teachings.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

God is good! Thanks, Karen. Blessings, Rob

[@educational4434]

Yes. We are to follow the law/commands. The law of Christ/commands of Jesus

[@earlwhite3760]

The obvious is that we get closer to the end the one who works very hard to decieve can be seen. It is amazing at all these new enlightenments keep coming out & forming. It's as if we keep searching for something new to alter course just to be different. Clearly, very clearly Satan does not like the body of Christ and seems to be doing a great job dividing us up in camps of confusion. RCC, HRM, SDA, Kingdom Christians & on & on.

[@jackslapp9073]

It is sad that there is so much judaizing, and paganizing of Christianity going on. It seems to be getting thicker and thicker as we get closer.

[@brandnewchristian777]

In my opinion, this is the best teaching you have done so far. It has systematically exposed the false teachings of this "movement" in a logical way. I know some will want to argue that with long drawn out essays that make no sense, then there are others who may have the veil finally lifted, so they can be set free from the spell they are under. May God help you! 🙏 A note to those who disagree with me and can't wait to comment with a thousand word response. Please listen to the video again as it would be a better use of your time. Maybe hearing what Mr. Solberg has to say over and over again will help you to understand.

[@sammygeiger3562]

Agreed! Best one yet. For some reason this was just very simple and easy to understand. Love all his videos though, for some reason this one was much more clear!

[@brandnewchristian777]

@@sammygeiger3562 Yes very easy to understand. God bless!

[@lavieenrose5954]

@@brandnewchristian777 God bless you and Merry Christmas 🎄 I totally agree with you ❤

[@brandnewchristian777]

@@lavieenrose5954 Merry Christmas to you as well!

[@YahuahsMaidServant]

@@lavieenrose5954 are you serious? Did you really just wish someone a merry Christmas... That unholy day is by far the biggest smack in our creators face! You really should read your entire Bible and not listen to the doctrine of man...

[@VictorResto]

I really like that you stick to scripture brother. You don’t reinforce your conclusions by giving opinions of other men saying that other scholars agree with this teaching. You allow the spirit to guide you in your teaching and the us the viewers has to go to the Bible and look for ourselves if we want to doubt what you say. May the Holy Spirit guide us unto all truth. This year has been deep study on this topic of law keeping.

[@cryptocuriouss]

Bro - you’ve been cranking out the content and it’s awesome! Thank you. This is so valuable coming out of the Torah Observant movement.

[@jacobstrouble4273]

Out of Torah and back to Rome and sun worship. Too bad.

[@lavieenrose5954]

@@jacobstrouble4273 Out of Torah and back to Jesus Christ ❤

[@jacobstrouble4273]

@@lavieenrose5954 Yeshua taught the same Torah He gave Moses at Sinai and is authority over that covenant and the one he made with Abraham. Keep studying.

[@fuzfire]

​@@jacobstrouble4273Then you must be saying Paul and all the writers of The New Testament got it wrong. If that's your view it's you that has fallen from Grace!

[@jacobstrouble4273]

@fuzfire Please remind me what I texted because it's been awhile. But I'll just say this. Unless you have the same understanding of the Talmud, Mishna,gemara, targums and the torah and pagan influence of Paul's day, given at least 2 language translations you're going to have problems with Paul. Even Peter called that shot back then. But just just like most Sunday folk it's either an accusation about falling from grace, legalism, works or whatever they are pumping into your little brains

[@TheRevelationDeception]

Thank you for your body of work here brother. A brother I've known for over a decade has recently slipped into the ensnarement of Torahism. I attempted to share a TON of Scripture with him but he has taken an "ulterior spirit" 2C11.4. His name is David if you and anyone else reading this will pray for him. God bless!

[@MaryShmee]

Please pray for my friend Rebecca R. whom has fallen for this deception also. I will pray for your Brother in Christ Jesus that he may break the bondage of this deceptive movement

[@l1Experiment]

Yes I shall pray for David, and Rebecca R. ...

[@lavieenrose5954]

Prayers for David and Rebecca ❤

[@kiruiandrew1]

"If You love me, you keep my commandments"

[@kingdomseekers1973]

He thinks commandments are traditional suggestions...

[@maxmatlock1976]

Hes describing the book of Hebrews where Paul tells you what has changed !

[@kingdomseekers1973]

@@maxmatlock1976 The mediator changed, not the law

[@maxmatlock1976]

@@kingdomseekers1973 you missspeak. Read it. He's moving us (his children) back to his original intention..the same one he had in exodus....that we ALL be a royal priesthood. While parts of the instructions(torah) have changed the part that will never change is the fact God wants His character to be displayed IN his children. We have to come out of Babylon in a full way! Leave all the pagan things and follow OUR KING who is the WORD OF GOD!

[@rockblackwell7829]

​@@kingdomseekers1973It's not only that the mediator changed... ​ 11 Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? 12 For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily A CHANGE IN THE LAW as well. (Hebrews 7:11-12)

[@jesus_our_priestking]

Thank You Prof. Solberg for this sound teaching.

[@joeyz5577]

This is exactly why I LOVE the Professor! Iron sharpens iron!

[@tbishop4961]

@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 it doesn't sharpen iron either🤦‍♂️😂

[@tbishop4961]

@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 😂😭

[@larry7781]

I just want to say I already knew what you were teaching today but the way you teach doesn't only put it in our head it brings it down to our hearts I thank God for that

[@kingdomseekers1973]

2:45 "As I always say, those traditions are permitted by followers of Jesus, but they're not required" Right there, he admits that he doesn't understand our side (the Torah Observant side) nor does he understand the Tanakh (Torah and Prophets), for he calls the ten commandments "traditions"...it's not a tradition its a commandment... washing your hands before eating a meal is a Jewish tradition, not using certain combs on shabbat is a tradition...but the sabbath in general, is a law, not tradition.

[@1954mill]

What a wonderful instructor of the Word you are Brother Rob!

[@SylviaNel-b3h]

Thank you thank you for your channel. May our Lord Jesus keep you focused daily!!

[@patnoon1544]

Thanks Rob. Very good comparison that can only leave one with the fact that the Law cannot be followed and is not required to be followed. We can learn so much from the Torah, Psalms and the Prophets, but in the end Jesus told them in Luke 24:44 that they basically pointed to and confirmed Him as Messiah. So many wonderful pictures of Messiah in the Old Testament. But He in His loving kindness towards us has provided a new and better covenant. Shalom

[@larrytruelove8659]

It’s my belief that old covenant ended with finality in 70 AD. The old covenant was fading away, on the way out, from the time of Christ until 70 AD. Hebrews 8:13, fading away. What do you think?

[@beckyfrechette4439]

Yep!

[@lavieenrose5954]

For sure 💯

[@WeThePeople9069]

Keep up the good work brother 🙏 many just dont see it 😞 i try to help people on FB but thier just not having it, all we can do is pray and keep showing them the truth

[@patriciaorourke8850]

It’s so simple I really don’t know how anyone can miss it. Thanks

[@jimijames7703]

This is useful for Seventh Day Adventists. They are very similar.

[@larrytruelove8659]

SDA’s make similar arguments that David does.

[@rayray4192]

Adventists are wannabe Jews captured by a religious cult. Indoctrinated, deluded, and bewitched for one ultimate reason- Adventists are running a business and they want your money.

[@joshuamelton9148]

It's because Hebrew roots movement has its origin from 7th day Adventist and the Millerites of the 19th Century.

[@larrytruelove8659]

@@joshuamelton9148 I see. But what about the black Hebrew Israelite movement? One of them debated James White and the guy made all kinds of claims about the Masoretic Hebrew text. Apparently he thought their Hebrew dialect was the correct one. Naturally this guy lacked education and any kind of coherent thought. The sabbath was not the primary thing but they believed in the sabbath. He did know quite a number of Hebrew words.

[@joshuamelton9148]

@@larrytruelove8659 The Black Hebrew Israelites movement also goes back to the 19th century with people like William Crowley. Their history is diverse. The most vocal ones that you see today on the streets and online has its origin in the 1960s in Harlem the One West School and all of its sects that had their own schism.

[@pollyandkendarrell8909]

Great teaching ...brings joy anfd peace to my heart ❤❤

[@heather602]

Misunderstanding in spiritual warfare is not always a failure on the one teaching. Often its a refusal to see, or a rebellion against the truth. Stiffening one's neck. Jesus never erred in His teachings, yet the pharisees continued in their stubbornness. Today, if you hear his voice, harden not your hearts like in the day of provocation.

[@rayray4192]

Rob is being humble and gracious. Wilbur is a spiritually dead heretic. He’s a deluded biblical fool.

[@bornofJesusblood]

Well said

[@adamguy33]

The key to understanding the relationship between the Christian and the Law is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments, for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). In place of the Old Testament law, Christians are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament law can be a good guidepost for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor. At the same time, to say that the Old Testament law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some of it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it. “This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshiping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them. The purpose of the Old Testament law is to convict people of our inability to keep the law and point us to our need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.

[@rayray4192]

@@adamguy33 I read your long post, and gave you a thumbs up. You made one small mistake that makes a big difference. The Law of Christ is to love as Christ loved. An infinitely higher standard than loving another as yourself. Humans don’t love themselves perfectly. It’s sacrificial love. If an act doesn’t cost you something it’s most likely not a choice for love. Love is a choice for the highest good. God has given his body of believers an impossible law to keep. Hebrew roots heretics lose their mind when you inform them it’s impossible to keep the Law of Christ. Their broken cultic minds are obsessed with laws. They think they are obeying God and pleasing God. God loathes pompous Pharisees. The obedience God looks for is obedience to the pure gospel message given to the apostles. Obedience by practicing faith in the complete and final atonement of Christ. Believing the gospel message is not advice; it’s a command. Hebrew roots heretics rebel against the gospel and practicing faith which makes a man justified and righteous. The wannabe Jews are self righteous Pharisees who have fallen from grace. They are not “ In Christ.”

[@pipinfresh]

Great work Solberg, I think this might be the best one yet! An interesting verse in Acts 21 that made me stop and reconsider Torah observance was this: ‭‭Acts‬ ‭21:25‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ [25] But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.” This follows what James said to Paul about the accusations he was teaching Jews to forsake Moses. It's a clear juxtaposition, between the Jews and gentiles and what they are to observe. "they should observe no such thing". James is clearly saying that the gentiles don't need to observe the Torah like they had previously addressed in Acts 15.

[@rayray4192]

Good point. Anyone reading Acts 15 and 21 with no bias and preconceived notions can easily understand that being a new covenant new creation in Christ is nothing like being an escaped Hebrew slave under the yoke of bondage of all 613 Mosaic laws, which were a ministry of condemnation and death.

[@astutik8909]

Verse 25 comes from Moses laws. 🤔🤔😚

[@heather602]

Good point about the Levites. Also worth noting that the priesthood itself has changed. Jesus is from the order of Melchizedek.

[@kimartist]

Which is VERY clearly stated in Hebrews. Hebrews is an eminently foundational book for Christian doctrine & yet is almost universally neglected when it comes to "new member" teachings & teaching sermons in general.

[@rayray4192]

@@kimartistgood point. The key passage is Hebrews 7:11-12. “ Now if perfection were attainable through the Levitical priesthood ( for through it the people received the law), what need would there have been for another priest to arise from the order of Melchizedek rather than the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed the law is necessarily changed.” Come on! How can a man who can read with comprehension deny this passage of holy writ teaches a new and different law for new covenant new creations in Christ? And not only a new law, but an entirely new and better way to relate to God. I can explain because I was cursed to grow up in the home of a 1%er pioneer Adventist health evangelist. Adventist cultists use their health message as a lure to capture naive people who God loves. Paul uses the word “ bewitched.” The word means to be persuaded by false representations. Wilbur is deluded, confused, and bewitched. No amount of facts, excellent presentations, or Bible verses in context will convince him he’s wrong. In fact, he had been trained to view Rob Solberg as an enemy of God and truth. It’s called cultic behavior.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

The fact that the priesthood changed doesn't mean the Law changed or that it was abolished.

[@Gigi2four]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779Hebrews 7:12 “for when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of the law also “.

[@Wisdoms_Inheritance]

The priesthood didn't change, it transferred along with the law, the words "changed" and "change" in Hebrews 7:12 means to transfer, transposition or transferral, it doesn't mean made different like you see in other passages, we need to study our bibles better before throwing out bible verses and misusing them, the law never changed.

[@SSNBN777]

The Apostles went to the Temple to preach and make converts, since that's where the unbelieving Israelites were gathered. They were beaten, thrown out and threatened with death (in Stephen's case he was killed). They weren't "worshiping" or following the Law.

[@salpezzino7803]

Amen, Acts 14:19 But Jews came from Antioch and Iconium, and having persuaded the crowds, they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the city, supposing that he was dead. -- 1 chapter before Torahism Cultist teaches in 15 that Paul and the Apostles were sending Unclean Gentiles to a Jewish synagogue. BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[@arlindodossantos2305]

They were actually going to synagogue but Paul was arrested in the Temple, and professing that he was still a Jew!

[@marieclinton4117]

I just found your channel. I’m grateful I did. With spiritual discernment and the Holy Spirits guidance-this is good ground to glean from. Thank you for the teaching/lectures(s) I’ve been watching. Especially…the Bible Studies. Please keep posting material and content. Please. By tha’ way Sir-you up there looking (and my momma use to say this) cleaner than tha’ BOARD OF HEALTH‼️ That suit and that color combination-fire!

[@anaflores5200]

You are a blessing, thank you for bringing clarity.

[@JacobGarciaMusic]

Excellent explanation, thank you for your ministry.

[@LilachNails]

Can you not see that the Law is made more full, more complete, more amazing. I can do the feasts in my own home, since I am the temple. Thank you Yeshua, for not abolishing the Torah, but for making making it more full.

[@jefb2361]

The Law brings wrath, exposes our sin. But THANK YOU JESUS for your atoning work at the cross! No circumcision or animal sacrifices necessary! More than a jot or tittle I'd say, God bless you.

[@Israel-of-Yah]

@@LilachNails 💯💯💯

[@kingdomseekers1973]

There was a sabbath long before any Levite existed. You don't need a temple or be part of the Levitical priesthood to keep the sabbath.

[@sundayciscero]

That’s fine brother, keeping the sabbath is fine, but to say someone is sinning or damned for not keeping it, (including yourself) is wrong and not biblical. It’s about your intent with doing things of the Law. If you’re doing it to justify yourself, you’re missing it

[@anthonypalelei8559]

Is it apply as a law to keep, even Adam and eve didn't observe the sabbath,

[@APERTWllz]

You help me understands alot. Thankyou

[@waynehobbs5175]

Professor, you have explained this immaculately. You have used scripture to prove how the new Covenant has achieved the necessary obsolescence of the old Covenant to be effectual. That X not equal to not X is brilliant. It's like you must only use only your right hand can never equal you must use only your left hand. God continue to bless your ministry in the name of Christ. amen.

[@freyaaldrnari6086]

Thank you for this.

[@bobreese4807]

Most Christians don't even know what gospel, grace and saved means.

[@OneSparrow-76]

Clear, concise, Truth in Love

[@digimike8]

One of the biggest theological mistakes I see Torahism make in this argument is that they equate the 100's years of the Hebrew captivity and its lack of a physical temple with today’s lack of a physical temple. They argue it’s happened before. They leave out and miss the fact that Jesus Messiah has now lived, sacrificed his blood and ascended into Heaven. The entirety of the law and prophets pointed to Jesus. Something monumental happened in Christian theology, a New and better Covenant. I also view the Temple from another point of view. The temple just wasn’t needed. In the New Covenant the Levitical priesthood has no authority from God. All authority is in Jesus our High Priest, in the order of Melchizedek. The destruction of the temple didn’t end the Levitical Priesthood, rather it was removed because the priests no longer had authority and the activities in and of the temple were no longer needed, much less required.

[@SSNBN777]

Amen!

[@nickylouse2]

If it is not too much trouble, since your argument is indeed paramount if accurate, can you take the time to flesh out from Scripture exactly why you assert that the Levitical priesthood no longer has authority? I might ask that you focus on one idea in particular and that being: did the Levitical priesthood ever rectify the problem of sin? And if I seem to be misunderstanding why you say that, please offer me reasons that you have said it.

[@jacobstrouble4273]

Incomplete hypothesis. It's the takkanot or 613 of the talmudic rabbis and the sacrificial system un necessary today. The Melkezedek part is correct but that is connected to the Royal Law or covenant agreed to prior to what was given and broken at Sinai. That's why the Aaronic line was given authority and why John the baptist relinquished at Yeshuas baptizm. Which returned complete authority to Messiah and restored His covenant made with Abraham , Isaac and Jacob. Otherwise the covenants of promise wouldn't be all over the new covenant scriptures. Walk as Yeshua walked. Paul and all the gentile assemblies he ministered to did including sabbath, high sabbath of feasts and dietary regs. So if what you claim is correct Paul never got the memo. You contradiction to work out. Good luck brother and be blessed.

[@digimike8]

@jacobstrouble4273 but then how do you interpret Paul saying he is gentile with them and acts Jewish with the Jews?

[@nickylouse2]

@@digimike8in the same way Jesus was a Samaritan as He was a Jew. Paul’s approach TO the gentiles was different than his approach to Jews with respect to proclaiming the gospel. He did not change his behavior towards God. It would have been hypocritical. In fact, he chastised the brothers in Galatians 2:12 who had not yet learned from the vision of Peter concerning Cornelius.

[@debbiewoznicki2419]

I love this teacher! He is very polite and explains his points so well.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, Debbie! Blessings, Rob

[@GatheringJacob]

He is polite, I appreciate that also. The problem is, his “points” are incorrect.

[@santosmacias1021]

What great teaching thank you so much

[@toreykrieger4427]

Really good stuff. Thank you. Excellent job explaining.

[@nickylouse2]

@34:40 the topic of circumcision was spoken of as though it had something to do with justification, but Paul clearly explained in Galatians 5:4 that this was a matter of Judaizers trying to force circumcision upon believers in order to be justified. We all know that we are justified by faith. The major reason for Paul's writing to Galatians was to dispel the idea of being JUSTIFIED by any means other than faith. So once again, a strawman has been set up since Paul was not talking about sanctification through obedience.

[@robertcain3426]

Obedience to the Spirit, yes.

[@Charlie-kit]

Amazing teaching! I’m so glad I found someone who teaches what I believe in

[@nancywhitehead219]

Not just believers in Jesus but "And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Mark 16:15-16

[@janakeil4637]

Such great teaching. Thank you for very clear instruction. My HR loved ones will debate validity of modern Bible and Paul's teachings. They truly believe that modern church and Christians have misled them and that only ancient documents and maps are trustworthy. Have you encountered that belief as well?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi, Jana. Yes, I run into that belief a lot. And my typical response when our Hebrew Roots friends want to cast doubt on Paul is to ask if they are suggesting that Paul's writings should be removed from the Bible. Because if that's what they believe, they are putting themselves in a position of authority over Scripture. And if they only accept the things in the Bible that they like, and reject the things they don't, it's not the Bible they believe but themselves. On the other hand, if they _do_ accept Paul's writings as Scripture, then they need to accept the things Paul teaches as the true Word of God. Which means they've got a significant uphill battle if they want to claim that the Old Covenant laws are still in effect today! Blessings, Rob

[@robertcain3426]

I agree. Great teaching. If I may put forward my understanding on the matter of Christian traditions which have been handed down are unscriptual in that they do not conform to the true meaning of the apostle's teaching. Christendom is not the church. The church is the body of beluevers, the body of Christ. On the other hand, Christendom is the progeny of the Roman prostitute and still walks after her ways. The true church which is the body of Christ did not fight wars for the dominion, power and wealth of this world. Christendom did and still tries to do politically. Christendom belongs to Babylon, the great house of religion that was Babel/Babylon. Housing all the religions of the world. Christendom still holds captive his holy people, just as the type and shadow of Nebuchaddnezzar's Babylon held captive God's people Israel. I began to receive these revelations 20 years ago, to realise that Luther had similar teachings. Only Luther attributed Babylin, the harlot, solely to the Catholic Church. And, indeed, she is the mother. And her children have followed after her ways. From the false Roman church came all manner of pagan superstitions clothed in Christian attire. It is from her that came church buildings as temples, when believers are the temple of God in the NT. From her came alters, when the one sacrifice fir all time has already been made. From her came priests, when e ery believer is a priest before God, the veil having been ripped apart by Christ's atoning work on the cross, and believers boldly come into the most holy place before the throne of God. And the Catholic priests became Ministers/Reverend etc, in the Protestant church; we don't need ministers to serve in the tabernacle since we have our high priest Jesus. From Ministers/Reverend etc, came the modern day Pastor, who still ministers to the people. This is not at all the pattern set by the apostles, where the gifts to the body were to operate, ministering to one another, bringing firth from their gift as the Spirit led, for/to the building up of the body, the church, to the maturity of the fullness of Christ. I could say much, much, more. But I won't and I appreciate it if you have read this far. Cheers

[@EnHacore1]

Thank you for the detailed explanation, the drawings are very helpful, please continue to use charts or drawings

[@mikhailmarvin2188]

Thank you so much for your job! God bless you!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you so much, Mikhail! Your support means a lot to me! Blessings, brother. Rob

[@salpezzino7803]

Rob no matter how hard you try not to, you still bring out the CrAzIeS. Another Great Job rebuking Evil. After each teaching I figured this one did it, however, no. This one should be you last - You Nailed It ...................................

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hey, Sal! If Torahism was solely based on intellectual reasoning, that might be true. But sadly, it has a whole lot more to do with emotional/psychological commitments and issues of identity. And I believe Spiritual warfare plays a major role, as well. At the end of the day, although my work is not as important or impactful as Mother Teresa, I take great comfort in her famous words: "'God has not called me to be successful; He has called me to be faithful." Blessings, Rob

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

If believing Christ's words in Jhn 14:15 makes me a "crazy", then fit me for a straight jacket. I'd rather be viewed as crazy by this world than to be viewed as lawless by God.

[@salpezzino7803]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 If you are in the Satanic Cult Hebrew/Jewish roots Cult then you are lawless. If you think in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments" - and believe He said 'law of Moses' and not "my" you would be worse than cray. you will be Damned. In the Great Commission Jesus said -"Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” -- What He didn't say was ', 20 teaching them to observe (all the law of Moses). And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” -- Truly a Low IQ Cult -- Jesus in Matthew 7 was speaking to Torah Keepers when He called them "Lawless" because they thought their works meant something, Just like today's Cultists. BLAAAAH

[@michaelmacias8]

Even though Christ is of the tribe of Judah the reason why his priesthood is superior to the Levi priesthood is because His priesthood precedes the levitical one. He is the last of the Melchizedek priesthood.

[@pastordavidberman2091]

I am a messianic Jew. We are not required to keep the Old Testament law. We may keep it if we wish to. Those of us who are Messianic Jews do many of the practices of the Old Testament because they are Jewish practices, however when gentiles run around like they’re supposed to become OldTestament, it’s not only biblically wrong. It’s insulting.

[@maverick2813]

I totally agree with you about ceremonial/ritual law/s but what about the "moral/ethical law"? Please make video about it. Thanks so much for your video. It was awesome, really❤️ God bless you🥰

[@PhrenicosmicOntogeny]

I just wrote a paper about the priesthood of believers a couple of weeks ago. Lovely stuff

[@coreybray9834]

Solberg: It’s not optional, it’s required. 5:56 But if that’s the case, then on what basis does the New Testament tell us that every 6:02 believer in Jesus-whether or not they’re an Israelite-is a priest and has been given 6:07 priestly duties. 1 Peter 2:5 says all followers of Jesus are “a holy priesthood, 6:15 offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” *But, they aren’t necessarily attempting to become Levitical priests. So, they don’t have to be Levites. You seem to forget torah has different priesthoods: the Levitical priesthood, the kingdom of priests and the order of Melchizedek. There is no Levitical restriction prohibiting nonlevites from becoming priests under the Order of Melchizedek as Christ demonstrated in line with Psalms 110. And Christ never teaches that his becoming a priest, or anyone else becoming a priest under the Order of Melchizedek, does away with the Levitical priesthood. Like the sacrifices, the Levitical priesthood has simply been temporarily suspended until it is again appropriate for them to resume their function in Ezekiel 44.* Solberg: And the book of 6:21 Revelation three times says that Jesus has made us priests of God. *Yes, he can do that. Why is that surprising to you?* Solberg: And Romans 12:1 says we are to, 6:30 “offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God-this is your true and proper 6:36 worship.” That’s priestly language. The priestly duties of making sacrifices that are pleasing 6:42 to God are now the domain of every believer in Jesus, whether Jew or Gentile or Levite. *But, you aren’t demonstrating that this is a problem. Again, torah law has always supported multiple priesthoods. You seem unaware that God planned for this well in advance.* Solberg: And that’s not all. The Bible explicitly tells us that Jesus is now our high priest, even though He 6:56 descended from the tribe of Judah, not the tribe of Levi. *Certainly, because he wasn’t seeking to become a Levitical High Priest, but a priest after the Order of Melchizedek as explained in the prophecy of Psalms 110. There is no restriction placed on a member of the tribe of Judah from becoming a High Priest of the Order of Melchizedek anywhere in torah law.* So the New Testament reveals that these 7:02 priestly regulations are no longer required. *Someone in the New Testament might make a claim like that, but that is not proof that God agrees-especially seeing that God has every intention of bringing the Levites back in Jeremiah 33:14-18, Isaiah 66:21-23 and Ezekiel 44-46. The best we can say is that God has temporarily suspended the function of the Levitical priesthood until which time as God places his sanctuary among his people in Ezekiel 37 in the future restored Davidic kingdom. But, this in no way does away with any torah regulations concerning the various priesthoods it lays claim to. Just as the introduction of the Levitical priesthood didn’t perminantly nullify the earlier priesthood of Melchizedek, which would have left Christ without a priesthood to become a High Priest of if that had been the case. That is why God planned for these two priesthoods well in Advance in torah. He was well aware of all the dynamics these priesthoods would have to accomidate for as they relate to the respective roles they would play in the later prophetic periods outlined in God’s prophecies.

[@makenoimage]

As if His gospel was contrary His Law..."live as He lived" and "love as He loved" and you too will follow Him His way...as ONE bride obedient to His ONE Law

[@PavelMosko]

I think a Facebook group of Ex Seventh Day Adventists I belong too will probably like this so will probably post a link. Not an Ex Adventist myself but a guy who argues them and my postings triggered my Messianic rabbi friend and made me realize he is a Torahist.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

I would be really interested in what they would have to say about this, Pavel, Thanks! Rob

[@marybrosseuk2144]

I found these videos from an ex SDA site. Someone posted a link, and I have been watching them ever since. I have found the Bible studies here very, very helpful.

[@PavelMosko]

@@TheBiblicalRoots The former SDA folks like it. Of course this sort of thing, usually isn't news to them it often is very similar to the arguments they make to their own folks' leftover in the Church/cult. The biggest reaction, I get comes from my Messianic rabbi friend who tends to react not just to the stuff I post on my Facebook wall but tries to argue with the things I share in groups designed for former Seventh Day Adventists or are meant to be polemical against Ellen White and the teachings of Seventh Day Adventism.

[@littleshrederdude]

Looking forward to David’s response. Grateful for both of these men, as it’s deepened/widened my understanding of God’s grace AND His relevant, loving instructions (Torah) for us.

[@adamguy33]

The key to understanding the relationship between the Christian and the Law is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments, for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). In place of the Old Testament law, Christians are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament law can be a good guidepost for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor. At the same time, to say that the Old Testament law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some of it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it. “This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshiping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them. The purpose of the Old Testament law is to convict people of our inability to keep the law and point us to our need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.

[@radostinvasilev599]

Rob, I can explain it to you. The salvation by grace doesn't not make the law is not required. For example, if the judje forgive you your breaches of the law without reason, just because he loves you, that doesn't mean that he gives you a permanent permit to continue breacging the law or that he says no more law for everyone. No, he forgives you the penalty, but requires from you to continue keeping the law.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

"You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Gal. 5:13-14)

[@radostinvasilev599]

@@TheBiblicalRoots For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him. 12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Psalms 103

[@soybeanfarmer4576]

@@TheBiblicalRoots The commandment of Love your neighbor as yourself (Lev 19:18) is a sub heading. Without the Torah you would have no way of instruction on how to do this. The Tablets of stone included the Torah. Written on front and back.

[@jeremiest-louis2943]

Right now I do see a moving of goal posts by your side, we'll see if that changes after watching but here's why.. I see that your first point is that you cannot do both the mosaic law and the new covenant because it would offend God to sacrifice again.. but then you also say that it is permitted but not necessary. So I do not see how they can both work together, its either we are permitted to follow the whole torah or we are not permitted to follow the whole torah. David's argument works here because if you say that they are not permitted, then by him showing that the apostles did it, then it means at least that they were permitted to follow it by tradition.

[@jeremiest-louis2943]

Now that I have watched the whole video, I can see how some of your arguments go to show that the law is not required but permitted. However some of your arguments go to show that some parts of the law are no longer permitted, such as circumcision and sin sacrifice. Now those are two different things that you are trying to prove. It would be much clearer if you tried to prove one at a time.

[@notusedexer]

The problem is they don't believe Paul.

[@ashersian2563]

Once you understand the distinction between the decalogue and the ceremonial laws, then apply to your study and you will understand better

[@studywithmefolks5809]

This dude is pretty slick. He makes it seem like Paul was trying to only have the sacrifices done for the other dudes. But Paul was doing it with them and it says make and offering for each. This would include Paul. Notice how he leaves that our when explaining. Whether or not Paul did, he intended to.

[@arlindodossantos2305]

Yes Paul was arrested in the Temple not Synagogue. Kept the Nazarite vow before that and even say let us keep the feast.

[@educational4434]

That's because Paul is Jewish. You are not Jewish

[@AsterionH]

David's arguments make much more sense.

[@terrioliver6041]

My sister has slipped into Torah also. For the last 6 years following it.. she is following both, and I feel she is totally confused, and she is not an Israeli she is an American. It breaks my heart the Rabbi she is studying under she is even learning Hebrew, which I feel is awesome learning any new language. She is always trying to convince me of the why. She says the bible is not totally true, and that's why she is studying Hebrew to learn the truth.. I said I believe it's 100 percent the truth. I got a copy of her Jewish bible they read almost identical other than using Jewish names like Yeshua and God's Jewish names." I kept bringing up the New Testament and Jesus fulfilling the law to her reading it from her Jewish bible... I feel Satan has us at each other. Until I have finally just let it go, and given it to our Lord, and I pray that Jesus would help her see the truth. It breaks my heart. She wants so much to please God that she has a good heart. It's a hard place to be trying to be a Jew when she is an American born she is so confused. And yes, I have gone over all this with her that you are teaching and have been praying and was so very happy to see this and listen to your study which is exactly the way we were both raised to believe. I was beginning to have doubts myself after her constance over and over again, telling me about her belief and lifestyle change. So thanks a million Mr. Solberg, an answer prayer for me to stay in God's Holy Word and keep the faith, and continue to pray for my sister and her husband to see the truth. For Jesus', Truth is the truest form of freedom in all things great and small. Her husband was not raised in church but is now following her new belief the last 4 years. My heart is breaking for so many in the world that are lost and confused. I feel for and pray for all the ones teaching and misleading the Word of God. They will be held accountable to Him. PS Im not meaning to refer to the Rabbi teaching. It's here in American and around the world are alot of false teaching it just breaks my heart. Peace to all

[@lesliemagby8445]

And that means we no longer need to meet in a church or pay tithing to a congregation. Each of us can just worship at home.

[@EnHacore1]

Actually you need to meet with other Christians regularly, that is what the early church did. It is true that they were meeting in houses because they did not have churches yet, but eventually they built churches to make it easier to meet. You cannot be a lone Christian, you have to have fellowship with others, it is all over in the New Testament

[@graftme3168]

@@EnHacore1 You can be a lone Christian, but I think it stunts growth and it forsakes others the benefit of having your fellowship. Fellowship was considered the most important reason for assembling together. Most people don't seem to know that though. I always hear people say they go to church for themselves, not for other people. Which is unbiblical. It's hard to find a biblical church these days though.

[@ZachFish-]

I just don’t see this standpoint as one that comes from a faithful heart.

[@John3.36]

Judiazers IMPLA'CABLE, adjective [French from Latin implacabilis; in and placabilis, from placo, to appease.] 1. Not to be appeased; that can not be pacified and rendered peaceable; inexorable; stubborn or constant in enmity; as an implacable prince. 2. Not to be appeased or subdued; as implacable anger; implacable enmity, malice or revenge.

[@coreybray9834]

Solberg: The other argument you might hear is that under the Old Covenant, all believers were also 10:15 identified as priests. And those who make this argument will point to Exodus 19:6 where Yahweh 10:22 says to Israel, “you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.” 10:28 *Yeah, that is God saying that. And if God said it, it proves pretty conclusively that God is saying more than Levites are priests. So, it is no surprise that you need to dismantle what God says here, because it openly disputes your position that a person must be a Levite to be a priest. But, the fact is God said this before he ever chose the Levites to be a special class of priests under their salt covenant. So, if people walk away believing more than Levites are priests in the Mosaic law, because God says so, then you force us into the corner of asking you if you believe God was wrong for saying this? Would you really expect us to ask you anything less here?* Solberg: Does this phrase "kingdom of priests" indicate that every Israelite is, in fact, 10:34 a priest, *It is perhaps reasonable to suspect that they all started out that way, but they may not have all decided to remain holy and follow God’s plan as agreed. Not everyone is interested in obeying God and doing what he asks of them, you know!* Solberg: who was given priestly duties in the same way we’re priests under the New Covenant? *And what exactly does the New Covenant say about priests and priestly duties, because I have read the wording of the New Covenant many times in Jeremiah 31, and the words “priest” and “priestly duties” are not mentioned in the wording of that covenant anywhere. Consequently, your above reference does not appear to lead to a completed idea here rooted in what the New Covenant itself actually lays claim to being the case.* Solberg: Or is it instead, identifying that the nation of Israel, 10:45 as a whole, is to serve in a priestly role among the nations, as an intermediary between the 10:51 peoples and God? I take the latter interpretation. *You mean just like when Christ sends his disciples out to teach all nations in Matthew 28? Because that’s funny Christ would instruct such a thing if we were under the New Covenant, seeing Jeremiah 31:34 explicitly instructs against people teaching others about God, because that sort of thing is no longer needed under the New Covenant. Now, introducing the gospel commission is not a problem if we aren’t under the New Covenant yet, and that is far more believable to me, because I don’t believe God brings us under the New Covenant until after he removes man’s stony heart and gives him a new heart in Ezekiel 11 and 36. So, maybe our priestly duties means we are part of that kingdom of Priests introduced in Exodus 19:6. Christ did Say in Matthew 21 that he would take the kingdom away from his people and give it to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof, suggesting that the Gentiles would come in and succeed in this kingdom where God’s people formerly had failed. But, if that prophecy of Christ is correct, then we are still very much under the Old Covenant’s kingdom of priests even today. Because the Israelites were no longer trying to bring forth the fruits of the New Covenant in that parable and discussion Christ was having in Matthew 21. So, the Parable Christ gave their and its subsequent implications really places a strain on how most Christians reason the covenants, suggesting they really jumped the gun by trying to introduce the New Covenant way too early into the mix.

[@thomasprice1320]

No!! The Torah and grace cannot be separated. They go hand in hand. Isaiah 8:20 testifies. " To the law ( Torah) and the testimony of it ( Messiah ) if they speak not according to this, there is NO LIGHT in them." Torah PLUS grace is the truth.

[@markkallstrom7398]

I love God's commandments

[@givethanks6714]

Great teaching! Hopefully some will gain understanding. I would in Love, advice to cut your hair. You may look at 1 Cor 11 differently, but if not for something else, to not be a stumbling block. Longer hair on men will hinder some to listen on you and learn more. Thanks for the good video :)

[@TboneWTF]

Is it because the Gospel is so convoluted and contradicting that it would be ridiculous to try and follow what it claims? Or is it because the Gospel allows for and supports many immoral and hateful actions which if followed would get you sentenced to life in prison?

[@TboneWTF]

lol

[@graftme3168]

I can't imagine that the apostles would have continued the animal sacrifices! What would be the point?

[@scotthays9133]

Impeccable and unarguable logic.

[@nunofyourbizness5975]

I find it amazing when we think we are following the law when mankind couldn't even obey 1 law when God told mankind not to touch the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Incidentally, what does the Bible say later brings acknowledgement of sin? The law. Our greatest sin is always not trusting the One who loves us the most, and whose original intention was to hang with us in a perfect garden that required no maintenance on our part. Holy Spirit help us keep our eyes on Jesus!!❤

[@PavelMosko]

I figured I would elaborate more on occasionally sharing your videos with former Adventists etc. The basic gist is familiar to stuff is the same or similar, but there are some specific details that are important. As a Faith SDA is very sloppy on a lot of things, like Church history, the details of doctrine, having a coherent position on something. But they do nitpick the details on some things relating to the Old Testament law, rituals etc. This is because they believe that Christ is acting like a kind of Cohen/high priest in heaven right now, blotting out people's specific sins that are confessed but leaving the other ones that have not been confessed to be judged at the end of the World. (Called the Investigative Judgement). Anyway, some of the specific points you raise are helpful to folks that want to raise their game overall. It kind of reminds me of my favorite web site & KZbin channel dealing with Seventh Day Adventism, called Answering Adventism that is very educational in general. That has been extremely useful for dealing with online Adventists but also given me some good gold nuggets for my other online theology writing and posting.

[@Jeff-gr3yl]

At the end of the video you said the law was important to show us our sin and point us to Jesus. How can that be. The law was given till the promised seed came: Jesus. When Jesus died on the cross the law became obsolete. Hebrews 8:13.To bring the law into the new covenant would make Jesus an unacceptable priest as Jesus is not of the Levitical priesthood but of the tribe of Judah. Faith comes by hearing the gospel. And through it the Holy Spirit convicts unbelievers of the sin of unbelief. John 16:8-9. Note verse 9. We need to get away from using the law of Moses of the old covenant. Through out the gospels and epistles it's about the sin of unbelief. 🙏

[@radostinvasilev599]

Human body is a physical temple. So you follow both Jesus and Moses.

[@coreybray9834]

Solberg: But when it comes to the issue of the Levitical 10:57 priesthood that we’ve been discussing, it doesn't really matter how you understand this phrase. Because the Torah very clearly establishes a Levitical regulation for God’s 11:08 priests. *Obviously, the matter is not as clear as you imagine it should be, if God is the one arguing in Exodus 19:6 that more than Levites are priests, disputing your claim that only Levites are priests in torah. The regulation God puts in place that you are bringing up here only identifies who are Levitical priests, not necessarily who all are priests in the more general sense of the term as expressed in Exodus 19:6.* Solberg: Deuteronomy 18:5 says this about the Levites, “For the Lord your God has chosen them 11:15 and their descendants out of all your tribes to stand and minister in the Lord’s name always.” *If he intends this to be “always”, then their priesthood should be viable forever as their salt covenant from Numbers 18 implies. And that detail above tells us why Jeremiah 33:14-18 is so significant as it concerns what God says about the Levites there as well in perfect line with the above instruction from the Mosaic law. Again suggesting that God is still enforcing the Mosaic law even in the restored Davidic kingdom and not forgetting his Old Covenant promises.* Solberg: The Torah unambiguously commands that every priest must be an Israelite from 11:27 the tribe of Levi. *The torah unambiguously provides a clear counterexample to that very claim in Genesis 14:18. Melchizedek is the priest of the Most High and he is not from the tribe of Levi, because he preexisted the entire Israelite nation. So, the best you can argue is that torah is arguing that Levitical priests must be Levites, not all priests, because not all priests in torah are Levites.* Solberg: And God’s priesthood cannot be restricted to Levites and open to non-Levites 11:34 at the same time. *Well, you are missing a bit of context here, only Levites can be Levitical priests, but Christ was never trying to become a Levitical priest. He is a priest after the Order of Melchizedek, not the Levitical priesthood, as explained in the prophecy of Psalms 110. So, it helps to understand God has multiple priesthoods, not merely one priesthood in torah.* Solberg: Which means we need to choose whether we’re going to follow the law of Moses or the gospel of Jesus. Because we can’t follow both at the same time on this issue. *Well, the gospel of Jesus in Matthew 4:4 says that man shall live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, and the law of Moses contains a lot of words that came straight out of God’s mouth. So, no one truly following the gospel is at odds with the law of Moses: these are they who will victoriously stand on the sea of glass in Revelation 15 singing the song of Moses and the Lamb. It is only those who reject the foundational connection between the law of Moses and the gospel that try to create this wedge between Christ and Moses you are forcing into place above to your own detriment which prevents you from learning that song in Revelation 15. God warned you not to attack the law in Isaiah 8:20-22, because God has already judged that there is no light in you if you take this path and that you will eventually find yourself cursing God and king as you head into darkness. Because Isaiah 8:16 identifies the law as what God is trying to seal among his disciples, and you are trying to take that away from God’s people every time you turn them away from the foundational teachings in the law of Moses. You should spend time reading further in Deuteronomy 18, since you brought that chapter up, because that is the chapter where God establishes that Christ is another prophet like Moses, not a prophet trying to destroy Moses. It’s why Christ warns you to not even think that he came to destroy the law in Matthew 5:17, because Deuteronomy 18 is where God also establishes the authority for Christ’s ministry in this all important Messianic prophecy that you harm when you turn people away from the law of Moses. You can’t genuinely follow the gospel if you are destroying the very foundation on which God authorized Christ to preach the gospel in the Father’s own words, for which he holds us accountable in Deuteronomy for every word Christspeaks. And Christ said the following too. Mat 23:1 - Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, Mat 23:2 - Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: Mat 23:3 - All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. But, shouldn’t Christ have said, “Forget Moses, just follow my gospel.”??? No, when the leaders taught from Moses, Christ wanted the people to continue in Moses. He just didn’t want them to follow the corrupt works of the leaders of that time, because they taught Moses, but they wouldn’t obey Moses. But, Christians did not take this gospel teaching of Christ to heart either, and instead they joined the leaders who don’t obey Moses, only today they don’t even try to teach Moses anymore, and their works are still corrupt while they pretend they are under a better covenant built on better promises, but when the curse of Isaiah 24:5-6 that devours the earth for the harm done to God’s law and covenant starts to make its presence felt and the inhabitants of the world are burned and few men left, Christians will learn that the covenant they really embraced in their rejection of Moses was not a better covenant built on better promises, but nothing short of a covenant with hell. But, there is still time to turn this around, Professor Solberg. We need only remove the wedge man is trying to place between the law of Moses and the gospel that is founded on that law to help Christians learn how to sing the song of Moses and become victorious on the sea of glass in Revelation 15.

[@russmaples5351]

Mr Solberg, you said something about one function of the Mosaic law being to witness against our sin. How do you define sin in that context if the law is not something we should follow? I do very much disagree with your perspective here and think that much of your argument is kind of circular (in the way you often interpret Scripture based upon the conclusion you have come to and then use that interpretation to support your conclusion), but I'm not asking this to fight or trap you with some kind of perceived 'gotcha'. I'm sure you have a well-considered explanation. I am just wondering how you would explain the issue, so I can more fully understand your position and perspective.

[@soybeanfarmer4576]

Your spot on. I always ask the reader to give the Biblical definition of sin? Romans 3:20, 7:7 and 1John 3:4. There is much context needed to understand Paul’s writings. 2Peter 3:15-19 says that if you don’t have a foundation in God’s Word you will misunderstand Paul and become Torahless. That is exactly what happens 99.99% of the time.

[@beaverinaneaglesnest1024]

Someone I know says because we are grafted in and Israel is the bride of God, therefore, the church is not the bride and we are to live as Messianic Jews. Can someone please help me refute this?

[@Oversite869]

The Torah provides these wisdoms for Life.. Peace be with thy neighbor. Don’t condemn anyone. And there is a time and place for everything YOU want to do. In everything you do, Love Yahuah. He is who He is.. I am who I am. Yeshua who you are. So create a Torah. And respect the Torah of thy neighbors, and join their walk. Because everyone has a god, and a Torah. Yahusha HaMachiach ze Adonai above all Law

[@GatheringJacob]

You should have named your channel, “Defending the Roots of Roman Catholicism”

[@KamalasFakePolls]

He's not catholic.

[@GatheringJacob]

@@KamalasFakePolls he might as well be, that’s what he is teaching RC doctrine.

[@jbheavenlyfootman]

I heard him make biblical arguments, but I didn’t hear any appeals to Roman Catholic dogma. How about interacting with his actual arguments, rather than making unsubstantiated claims? 🤷

[@GatheringJacob]

@@jbheavenlyfootman this is my criticism of this video and me stating that he is in effect towing the doctrinal lines of RC doctrine instead of scriptural truth. Protestants who in effect follow Luther have so much more they should have protested against and reformed! In effect Protestants are only a sub section and daughter of there Roman Catholic predecessors, and in fact NOT part of the true apostolic faith of the Messiah YESHUA! If you want to know why I say such things, clear your head of the man made doctrines you have been fed and “study to show yourself approved by Elohim, a workman that needs not be ashamed of the words of truth”. The defense for my statements are made by scripture, read it for yourself!

[@jbheavenlyfootman]

@@GatheringJacob I assume that your arguments are found elsewhere in the comments. I couldn’t find them. Maybe copy and paste them as a reply to me, so I can see? All I see is your comment that I responded to, which is just guilt by association, rather than an actual rebuttal of his arguments.

[@TheRevelationDeception]

32:07 Interestingly enough, the Greek word translated "disciple" is the noun "mathetes". The verb in the same word family is "manthano" which means "learn". So literally, the "disciples" were "learning ones". If Peter and others he commissioned were under Torah, what was it they had to "learn"? It wasn't Torah! M9.13 But going LEARN (manthano) what it is: Mercy I want AND NOT SACRIFICE (according to Torah), for I did not come to call righteous, but failers". Paul termed the law of Moses "a law of righteousness" which was opposed to "the law of faithing" R9.31; Phil3.9. Paul also called the law of Moses "the law of failance and of death" R8.2. So the context of those Jesus did NOT come to call being "righteous" points to the righteousness out of law of Moses, not the law of faithing!

[@ivangodin1850]

Law & grace: then, would tithing still remained a law ritual? my understanding of scripture is that we are no longer bound by it, but giving has become an act driven by love and self sacrifice, where at times, in the NT, offerings given often would surpass one tenth.

[@ashersian2563]

Mr soberg you are right that the ceremonial laws including sanctuary related matters like priesthood and sacrificial system are all done away with. All of which have been fulfil in Christ. But the decalogue distinct from the ceremonial laws. Jesus magnified the Decalogue. Matt 5. Not the cereminial laws. Hebrews 8. James 2. 1 John 2:3-4, John 14:15 I hope we can correspond The decalogue is never in contradition with the Gospel

[@fuzfire]

Hi Professor Is there any way I can print out the transcript or find an electronic document to get? I have a daughter in HRM and no amount of logic or Scripture has gotten to her. I think your teaching on this just might with the moving of The Holy Spirit.

[@philliprude5997]

Does this include keeping of the Sabbath? It seems like a very big issue, and point of conflict. Muslims worship Friday, Jews worship on Saturday, and Christian worship Sunday. I think to be on the safe side we should take all three of these days off. Lol But seriously, are we to keep the Sabbath and if so which day?

[@robinanderson6893]

Thanks!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you so much, Robin! We are so grateful for your support. Blessings, Rob

[@SofaiMatautia]

Revelation 14:12 (KJV) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THE FAITH OF JESUS. Revelation 12:17 (KJV) And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND HAVE THE TESTIMONY TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST. Matthew 19:16-17 (KJV) And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if THOU WILT COME INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.

[@Oversite869]

613 Commandments of the Law. Only 1 judgement fulfills all commands which would subsequently nullify judgements. “I Love You no Matter what” IS the Gospel of Jesus. God IS Love itself. The Law of Moses can’t possibly be fulfilled without unjudgemental Love, which is the greatest atonement of sin.

[@Oversite869]

Gotta understand that being judgemental toward fellow man equates one to God. But Loving no matter what, fulfills Gods image in man, and would’ve prevented any sin or judgment from ever occurring in the first place. Peep what Moses said to God after Israel made the golden calf. He pulled a Jesus before Jesus and put the whole nation of Israel before himself. Whereas Jesus put ALL of humanity before Himself.

[@Oversite869]

The Law of Moses is the wisdom and Knowledge of Good and Evil. It brings about judgmentality and Death. The Gospel of Jesus is the Tree of Life. I Love You no matter what is the mentality of Eternity and Jesus Christ Himself.

[@Oversite869]

@@YY-jv4uu yeah, The Law makes Love a command, which is why God said it is flawed. Commanding rebels never works. Commands cannot be fulfilled by commands, only a judge can fulfill commands. Which is why God is judge. And John said God is Love. Jesus revealed that Love is the judgement that reins supreme to all commands. If our own judgement is Love, the Law is fulfilled.

[@JoseGarza-n5b]

Interesting, question: what happens in the latter days (Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3) when GOD opens up His house and the law is taught will Levits or gentiles minister, if any, in the house, and will certain parts of the law not be taught?

[@coreybray9834]

Professor Solberg said, “So it’s important that we understand the freedom we have in Christ, and why we cannot 2:58 follow the law of Moses and the gospel of Jesus at the same time.” *The first mistake Professor Solberg is making here is he did not read Revelation 15. Those who gain the victory and actually end up standing on the sea of glass are not trying to distance themselves from Moses and his teachings with the gospel of Christ. But, instead, they sing the song of Moses and the Lamb. Rev 15:1 - And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. Rev 15:2 - And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. Rev 15:3 - And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. Notice also, Satan is waging war with a very specific group of people: Those who keep God’s commandments (the law) and those who have the testimony of Jesus (the gospel) Rev 12:17 - And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. So, the only reason to try and pit the gospel against the law of Moses as competing messages is to join Lucifer in destroying the foundation God has put in place through Moses and Christ. And that foundation is more intimately linked than you may realize, Professor Solberg, because Christ’s own defense against Lucifer in Matthew 4 is taken from the book of Deuteronomy, for example. If you get rid of the law of Moses in particular, as irrelevant, you hand the argument to Satan in Matthew 4 by invalidating the foundation from which the arguments of Christ were derived. Christ quoted Moses to guarantee that the law of Moses and broader elements of torah are integral parts of Christ’s own gospel message and defense. So, you can’t make the law of Moses irrelevant without doing untold damage to Christ’s gospel message. It’s not possible. But, there is an even deeper intimate link between Christ and Moses found in Deuteronomy 18, because Christ is the other prophet like Moses. Deu 18:15 - The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; It’s why the disciples admitted they learned Christ was coming from the writings of Moses and the prophets. Jhn 1:45 - Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. So, his coming was prophetically foretold in the law of Moses you keep attacking. Deuteronomy chapter 18 is also the part of the Mosaic law where God authorizes the ministry and teachings of Christ. Deu 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deu 18:19 - And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. If you nullify or get rid of this section of the Mosaic law under the Old Covenant, by tossing out the Old Covenant, you harm the obligation the law places on us to abide by the teachings of Christ, doing even more damage to the gospel message in the process. And notice, Christ’s own response to the above teaching in Deuteronomy explaining whose words Christ came to speak. Jhn 14:24 - He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. So, all you are doing by attacking the Old Covenant and various aspects of the Mosaic law is you are undermining the very foundation on which the ministry of Christ and the gospel itself rests, joining Lucifer’s war against God’s people in the process in Revelation 12:17. And when Christ wanted to identify and verify who he was, look at where he turned the attention of the men he was speaking with here. Luk 24:27 - And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. And why would Christ do this? First, he wasn’t trying to use a self referencing circular argument here to establish who he was and what he had accomplished. Secondly, he was establishing how foundationally critical the teachings of Moses and the Prophets are to validating the gospel itself. So, the true gospel is not one at war with the Old Covenant or the broader law of Moses. The gospel is essentially an extention of the Law of Moses from what God is requiring in Deuteronomy 18 when he holds us accountable for every word Christ speaks. And Christ equally charges us to live by every word that God speaks with his mouth in Matthew 4:4. So, you can’t toss out a single word God says in torah without doing further damage to the gospel message of Christ, or disobeying Christ directly. So, when you teach people to reject observing the Sabbath as God has commanded it to be kept with his own mouth in Exodus 20:8-11 in other videos on your channel, you are in direct violation of the gospel teaching of Christ in Matthew 4:4 who obligates us to live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi Corey. I don't believe we need to distance ourselves from Moses or the Torah. They are both a fundamental part of the Christian faith. In the Torah, Moses told us that we are to listen to the coming Messiah Jesus: "The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers-it is to him you shall listen" (Deut. 18:15). God confirmed this when, on the Mount of Transfiguration (in the presence of Moses) He said, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to him" (Matt. 17:5). He didn't say, "Listen to Moses" or "Listen to Moses _and_ Jesus." Moses and the Torah point us to Jesus (Luke 24:44-48), not the other way round. And as this video clearly lays out, we cannot follow the Gospel of Jesus and the Law of Moses at the same time. Which do you follow? Rob

[@coreybray9834]

@@TheBiblicalRoots @TheBiblicalRoots 1 day ago Hi Corey. I don't believe we need to distance ourselves from Moses or the Torah. They are both a fundamental part of the Christian faith. *If you honestly believed that, you wouldn’t dare ask the following question later in this post!* Professor Solberg wrote: “And as this video clearly lays out, we cannot follow the Gospel of Jesus and the Law of Moses at the same time. Which do you follow?” *You don’t ask “which do you follow” unless you are intentionally trying to place a wedge between the law of Moses and the gospel to distance Christians from Moses like you are doing above. As a Professor familiar with the dictates of basic logic, you know perfectly well that you can’t have it both ways. Because the logical form {X and ~X} = contradiction. The truth table doesn’t lie, Professor. So, it would be more honest of you to admit you are distancing Christians from Moses, because that is precisely what you have done here.

[@coreybray9834]

Solberg: In the Torah, Moses told us that we are to listen to the coming Messiah Jesus: "The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers-it is to him you shall listen" (Deut. 18:15). *And this is why you shouldn’t ask which should we follow the law of Moses or the gospel, because this section of the law of Moses is the foundation on which the gospel and ministry of Christ ultimately rests. God is essentially saying that the gospel is part of the law of Moses here by protecting every word Christ speaks with the totality of what was stated in Deuteronomy 18 concerning this Messianic prophecy.* Solberg: God confirmed this when, on the Mount of Transfiguration (in the presence of Moses) He said, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to him" (Matt. 17:5). *Yes, and Christ returns the favor by telling us to not so much as think that he came to destroy the law or the prophets in Matthew 5:17. And Christians have been trying to figure out how to make the law and most, if not all, of its provisions obscelete ever since, doing exactly the opposite of what christ commands, because they do not listen to him either. If Christ isn’t trying to destroy the law or the prophets, then the Levitical priesthood is and will be a valid priesthood operating well into our future as the prophecies declare. Because Christ promises he is not trying to destroy the prophets either, not merely the law only.* Solberg: He didn't say, "Listen to Moses" *He didn’t say listen to Peter, Paul, James, John or the Unknown author of Hebrews there either. You want to make them irrelevant too??? Consider that God didn’t say, “Never listen to Moses again” here either. So, it is strange that the way you worked this attempts to distance people from Moses, the thing you said you weren’t trying to do earlier.* Solberg: or "Listen to Moses and Jesus." *But, Christ gives us some advice along these lines. Luk 16:31 - And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Isn’t Christ one who rose from the dead? Will we be persuaded by what Christ says if we refuse to hear Moses and the Prophets?* Solberg: Moses and the Torah point us to Jesus (Luke 24:44-48), not the other way round. *But, now you are stomping all over your former premise. You seem to have forgotten that you said, Solberg wrote: “He didn't say, "Listen to Moses” ” So, how is Moses supposed to point us to Christ, if we refuse to hear Moses because of your above premise? It has to be a two way street, if Christ is using Moses and the prophets in Luke 24 to defend his own claims, because we must also hear Moses and the prophets to be persuaded by one who rose from the dead, and that is precisely what Christ was doing. He was trying to persuade people about himself from Moses and the prophets after he resurrected from the dead. He wouldn’t have needed to do that if the directive to listen to Christ in Matthew 17 was stated to the exclusion of hearing Moses as you implied. So, you might want to go back and rethink Matthew 17, because you didn’t quite have that properly understood.* Solberg: And as this video clearly lays out, we cannot follow the Gospel of Jesus and the Law of Moses at the same time. Which do you follow? *You are stuck at the same Delimma the Jews were stuck at back at the first coming of Christ, only you are making the opposite mistake they made. They chose to reject following Christ and the gospel, because they couldn’t figure out how to unite the two messages either,and look at how long that has kept the Jewish people in darkness about their own Messiah. And Christians choose Christ, but reject following the torah, and think they can cover their endless disobedience to the law with claims of grace entitlements, no matter who they harm in the process, wondering why no one can progress morally to a decent state of holiness even though Christians insist we are under a better covenant built on better promises. It would be laughable what Christians have done to themselves in this respect if it weren’t so incredibly sad. The rejection of the law was most amplified by the little horn of Daniel 7:25 who changed times and laws to put rejecting the law of Moses to the ultimate test, and Christ likens that period in Revelation 13:4 to the people worshiping the dragon and the beast, before they engaged in a war of persecution that murdered so many Christians between 538 and 1798 that Christ said in Matthew 24 that if those days were not cut short, no flesh would have been saved. Since those days, more and more Christians have been turning back to Moses and the law to figure out where they went wrong, and strangely, the Jews are slowly waking up to the fact that Yeshua really was their Messiah and are reading the gospels. And both these situations are causing Jewish and Christian teachers and leaders to pull their hair out, because God is ripping their congregations away from them, because they are the Pastors God sends a message of woe to in Jeremiah 23 before replacing them with good shepherds to lead his flock instead at Christ’s coming. Finally both groups are starting to realize the other group has something they most desperately need to push both groups back to reunification which is the very fulfillment of Ezekiel 37, undoing the breaking of the brotherhood of Judah and Israel which occurred at the cross as prophecied before hand in Zechariah 11. Here Judah represents Christianity (because Christ in Revelation 5 is the lion of the tribe of Judah over us) and Israel represents itself. So, to reunite the Christians with Israel in Ezekiel 37, it helps to realize the Christians need the law of Moses as much as the Jews need the gospel of Christ. You will never reunite the two houses of God’s people until they realize this critical truth and repair the bridge between the law and the gospel. So, the two prophets of Deuteronomy 18 are a package deal and we need to learn how to follow them both. This is why the beast of Revelation 11 hates the two prophets and wants them dead. Because the world hates the Jews who follow Moses and they hate the Christians who follow Christ, and the secular leaders know they will never eliminate the threat of reunification and taking control of the world imposed by the Judeo-Christian faith unless they destroy the law of Moses and the gospel. But, those who get the victory in Revelation 15 sing the song of the two prophets of Deuteronomy 18 and Revelation 11: Moses and the Lamb, because they understand how this reunification of Judah and Israel works in the prophecies by bringing the law of Moses and the gospel back together. So, either you are working towards this reunification, or you are joining the beast in hoping to prevent it, professor. @@TheBiblicalRoots

[@simonskinner1450]

The gospel message of Paul Romans 2:13 = "For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified". Law of righteousness not ordinances.

[@williamcyriaque1820]

My brother, the temple is still physical, it's better to say " the temple is no longer man made. Our body is the temple. Our mind, our heart, our spirit is the kingdom.

[@jamesbarksdale978]

This is what Paul is addressing in Galatians. Many within the Hebrew Roots movement and Messianic Judaism are little more than modern day Judaizers. It's interesting how the old heresies keep getting repackaged for a new generation.

[@KenPeters-sr1125]

Concerning sacrifices, the reason sacrifices needed too be repeated was because a blood sacrifice was needed to cleanse a person from their sin, to mitigate the sins that had been written on the tables of their heart (Jeremiah 17:1). God remembered sins by writing them on the tables of their heart, their account. Jesus' sacrifice did the same thing, but the difference was that the sacrifice did not need to be repeated because God would remember their sin no more. The account no longer needed to be cleansed because sins were no longer written there. It is the content (logōn) of the account (logon) that determines if we are justified or condemned. Justification is not the absence of sin but the presence of righteousness. The Greek words for righteousness and justify are almost identical. Branches that do not bear fruit are cut off. Those who were saved in the Old Testament did not need repeated sacrifices because they were taken out from under the law, for where there is no law, sins are no longer imputed (remembered in the account (Gr. logon). Romans 7:1 the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth. To get out from under the law, you need to die - baptism qualifies as a shadow of death. Joseph was saved when his brothers slew the kid and dipped his coat in the blood. Then they threw him into the pit - his shadow of death. And God was with him. No further sacrifices were needed for Joseph. Jesus' sacrifice was better because it could be applied once for all people. By being born into the kingdom of God, with Jesus as your Father, you join the house of Judah. A sacrifice was never applied to future sin. His sacrifice for us is sufficient because sins arer remembered no more. Under the New Covenant, we are under grace, not the law. We are still held accountable under grace. The New Covenant is the ministry of life, where the ministry of Moses was the ministry of death 2 Corinthians 3. Under the law of Moses, there are no entries of righteousness in our account for obedience, only entries for violations. Look at the last five of the Ten Commandments to understand what it means to love your neighbor to the full extent of the law. I won't kill you, I won't commit adultery with or against you, I won't steal from you, I won't bear false witness against you, and I won't covent anything you have. There, I have loved you to the full extent of the law and I intend to keep it that way. Don't you feel cherished? Of course not. If I were to violate any, however, I would get dinged. The law of the Spirit of life is the New Commandment, where I love you as he has loved me, in the power of the Spirit. The law of Moses included everything but the Spirit: all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, all your strength, all you, no Spirit. All you and no Spirit is separation from God: death. You with the Spirit is union with God: life. You do not need to be baptized to be saved, but you do need to die to get out from under the law. I highly recommend baptism over the approach the thief on the cross took. And here is how you can tell if you are really interested in the truth: while you were reading this, were you looking for rebuttals? Or were you seeking to understand? Looking for rebuttals is like pouring new wine into old wineskins. grace-4-grace.com

[@simonskinner1450]

There is no contradiction between keeping the law and the gospel, and in the gospel only doers of the law shall be justified, the law given to Abraham kept by faith for the grace of Christ.

[@Tom-cv7sf]

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[@studywithmefolks5809]

But a physical temple wasn't required. They did sacrifices upon return from Babylon without even a foundation to the temple. They only needed an altar, as told in Ezra. They apparently didn't even need the ark of the covenant to sprinkle blood and incense on, as required by the law. So, hole in the reasoning. David still doesnt know anything, but the argument has a shortcoming. Also, the drean within a dream is not possible how inception depicts. But among lucid dreamers it is called a false awakening.

[@Marwil23]

you act like Jesus didn't teach from His own words in the old testament, nothing will pass away till heaven and earth pass away. Shalom

[@kimartist]

This kind of doesn't make sense. Old things have to pass away in order to make way for new things to be established, right? But you're making it sound like EVERYTHING has to pass away in order to make way for NOTHING(NESS) 👀

[@Marwil23]

@kimartist Gods word last forever in other words my friend.

[@kimartist]

​@@Marwil23 Jesus is God's Word. Jesus (& His Bride) will last forever.

[@Marwil23]

@kimartist John 1:1-4 1¶In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4In Him was life, and the life was the light of men like I said His Own Words. Happy Feast of Dedication edit yes the goal of life is to receive eternal life with our God.

[@adamguy33]

​@@Marwil23The key to understanding the relationship between the Christian and the Law is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments, for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). In place of the Old Testament law, Christians are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament law can be a good guidepost for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor. At the same time, to say that the Old Testament law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some of it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it. “This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshiping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them. The purpose of the Old Testament law is to convict people of our inability to keep the law and point us to our need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.

[@giftmumba86]

Amen