“Family Matters” Precon Upgrade | Bloomburrow | The Command Zone 624 | MTG Magic Gathering Commander

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@commandcast
@commandcast Ай бұрын
What do you think of this precon? Any cards we missed? Any cards we suggested to take out or add that you disagree with?
@tedwasanasan3805
@tedwasanasan3805 Ай бұрын
I put dockside in lol, also put offspring cards not in the precon in, so I can double up on offspring, more ramp to be able to afford it, and lots of good etb creatures to double up on.
@UnidentifiedReader
@UnidentifiedReader Ай бұрын
Panharmonicon is cheap and will double all those ETBs
@calebbrown1068
@calebbrown1068 Ай бұрын
Was wondering what you thought of Panharmonicon and Virtue of Knowledge. We already have Delney and Zinnia is a Panharmonicon-style effect, so how much is too much?
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar Ай бұрын
One card that absolutely belongs in this deck: CLOUDSTONE CURIO! It lets you bounce the original creatures (assuming they're also not artifacts), so you can offspring them again.
@KBystedt10
@KBystedt10 Ай бұрын
Day 1163 of asking you guys to stop with the KZbin face.
@omegavulture8379
@omegavulture8379 Ай бұрын
I did NOT have ”Rachel and Jimmy tell you how to make babies” on my bingo card 😅😂
@bryceduyvewaardt8136
@bryceduyvewaardt8136 Ай бұрын
What? I just listened but I must have missed it. When did they mention that (besides the stork jokes)
@jsato4921
@jsato4921 Ай бұрын
I personally like Semblance Anvil for this deck. Stick a creature under it to always pay the offspring cost.
@SilverGarrison
@SilverGarrison Ай бұрын
TMW I played with this precon out of the box, won a game, watch your video, and I used all the cards you said you'd swap out 😂 2 Bosses chauffers did great with a board wipe
@ivanchen5802
@ivanchen5802 Ай бұрын
Not commander related, but I th8nk the true crime podcast mentioned is, "Serial" hosted by Sarah Koenig
@Natedogg2
@Natedogg2 Ай бұрын
42:35 Judge here. Yes, if the Nesting Dovehawk is a token, it will see itself entering the battlefield and it will get a counter.
@FSUSeminole378
@FSUSeminole378 Ай бұрын
Another bonus is that any creature that has Offspring itself, Zinnia gives them an additional Offspring. The card sees both instance of Offspring.
@ANitschkeProduction
@ANitschkeProduction Ай бұрын
Yep, I've done that with Agate Instigator
@stephencopeland1724
@stephencopeland1724 Ай бұрын
@@ANitschkeProductionso if you use both offsprings for Agate Instigator, how much damage do you do on that turn to other players with Agates ability?
@ANitschkeProduction
@ANitschkeProduction Ай бұрын
@stephencopeland1724 the original will see the 2 tokens enter, and the 1st token will see the 2nd token enter. So 3.
@nickatwork
@nickatwork Ай бұрын
You can tell this was filmed a bit ago because nesting dovehawk is around $20 now lol
@Russian_engineer_bmstu
@Russian_engineer_bmstu Ай бұрын
Really? Nice I have like 7 of em in my "white bulk rares" box
@AxillaryPower2
@AxillaryPower2 Ай бұрын
Yeah, this deck would have been a great place for a reprint, 'cause that card's only going to go up with each new token maker.
@hughjakeman5296
@hughjakeman5296 Ай бұрын
Damn... glad I ordered one a bit ago i almost didn't order one a bit ago cause it was $6 ,feel like I lucked out a bit lol
@halvsketchy9293
@halvsketchy9293 Ай бұрын
The price trend is 7,5€ on cardmarket right now. Idk which site you are using, but people tend to keep to cardmarkets price trends
@nickatwork
@nickatwork Ай бұрын
@@hughjakeman5296 you sure said a bit a lot there
@rylanchampion5972
@rylanchampion5972 Ай бұрын
You're telling me the baby deck has a lot of wipes... could you say there are a lot of baby wipes?
@jorochimaru
@jorochimaru 29 күн бұрын
That was weak bruh
@elizebadiahjacobs9770
@elizebadiahjacobs9770 Ай бұрын
i know this isn't budget but this feels like the best serra ascendant deck ever. base power 1/1 and with two of em ( for 3 mana) you got some damage
@dachivale5319
@dachivale5319 Ай бұрын
Oh frick, thanks for the suggestion. Have a copy in a different deck. Angel of Invention and Thristledown Liege are also quite nutty here. 😁
@magnusprime962
@magnusprime962 Ай бұрын
3:18 "When those hot singles in your area arrive at your door, make sure they're protected!" Jimmy would be a great wingman.
@magnusprime962
@magnusprime962 Ай бұрын
8:58 To be fair, Arthur is the name of the most famous fantasy hero ever.
@jeffreylong1478
@jeffreylong1478 Ай бұрын
@@magnusprime962 King Arthur?
@chrisgallo2236
@chrisgallo2236 Ай бұрын
Another cool trick is Whitemane Lion. You cast it and offspring it. The original returns one of your creatures to your hand so you can recast it and offspring it again and then the token copy returns the original Lion to your hand.
@TheSmartCinema
@TheSmartCinema Ай бұрын
while it sounds great on paper and might be fine for a table with lower power level, imo repeatedly paying 4 mana (2 for lion and 2 for offspring) just to bounce back to your hand one of your creature that you will still have to pay the cost of, sounds like it's far from being one of the best thing you could do. I feel like there are 200 cards I would want to add before doing this kind of very mana hungry "combo"
@perinthia6829
@perinthia6829 Ай бұрын
Shreiking drake would be a better option as it only costs 1 mana, but doesn't have flash
@Setzer
@Setzer Ай бұрын
Agate Instigator - if you have your commander out can you pay 1R and 2 to offspring twice? I would think that the commander is giving a separate ability that means you could pay both.
@FSUSeminole378
@FSUSeminole378 Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@sunnyflynn5901
@sunnyflynn5901 Ай бұрын
at 25:46 they say that Combat Celebrant wants the Zinnia to be an 11/3 and swing twice. if you play it with its offspring cost you only need Zinnia to be a 7/3 to swing for lethal. Which, from experience, is very doable. even if your not going the token route
@Togsworth
@Togsworth Ай бұрын
Honestly kinda wild how they've put an infinite combo in the precon with helm of the host and combat celebrant giving infinite combats
@BarbeqdBrwniez
@BarbeqdBrwniez Ай бұрын
There's been other precons with infinite combos. There's also a second combat celebrant infinite in this seen lol.
@Togsworth
@Togsworth Ай бұрын
Really? Which precon?
@BarbeqdBrwniez
@BarbeqdBrwniez Ай бұрын
@@Togsworth off the dome, the Prossh one is one.
@Togsworth
@Togsworth Ай бұрын
@@BarbeqdBrwniez Huh, neat
@sulakkalus
@sulakkalus Ай бұрын
Fountainport is an exceptional utility land. Especially if you’re running Anointed Procession!
@joshuacarrillo8306
@joshuacarrillo8306 Ай бұрын
Did anyone else notice most if not all offspring costs are cmc 2? Cheeky lil reference😂 It takes two!
@iamunnami
@iamunnami Ай бұрын
Does offsprings add to each other? Zinia adds to all creature offspring 2, Agate invitigator has offspring 1red on its own. Can i pay 2 and 1red and get 3 Agate's?
@mn6334
@mn6334 Ай бұрын
Offspring costs do stack. You have to pay the original mana cost and both offspring costs but you can get two 1/1 token copies if you cast a creature with its own instance of offspring. You would have to pay a total of 4RR (1R mana cost + 1R natural offspring + 2 Zinnia offspring) to get two token copies of Agate Instigator.
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 Ай бұрын
Hot take: Pollywog Prodigy is not good in this deck. It's rarely going to evolve in this deck. It's much better in Ms. Bumbleflower, where you can actually buff it's power permanently without relying on evolve. Also...what the hell is Jimmy wearing on his arm??
@dachivale5319
@dachivale5319 Ай бұрын
Agreed, cut it from this deck. It generally just doesnt grow a lot. The copy does grow a bit more, because of 1 toughness. But it needs at least 2 power to even trigger in most casual commander games. And then it only triggers on 1-cost. If it was equal or less than its power I can see it maybe being alright. 🤷
@eXJonSnow
@eXJonSnow Ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s even that good in Bumbleflower, tbh. Pollywog Prodigy reminds me a lot of Mystic Remora, where it scales pretty well with the power level of the pod. Low power games are going to feature bigger creatures, which will pump it, but it’s maybe going to draw 1-2 cards each rotation. Obviously that’s good, but it’ll probably just draw some removal. In high power games or even cEDH, getting it to 2 or 3 power means you’re going to be drawing off of basically every spell your opponents cast.
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 Ай бұрын
@@eXJonSnow my point was that regardless of how good it is in her deck, it’s a brand new commander card that just fits what she does more than what Zinnia wants. They do this often and it always leaves me scratching my head like “…but..why…it was right there”
@barrychan3722
@barrychan3722 Ай бұрын
Turn 2 Pollywog Prodigy and then turn 3 Zinnia is the sadness thing ever.
@sciencemage
@sciencemage Ай бұрын
Rachel’s sly grin as she goes for a drink when Jimmy says “hot singles in your area”
@paultrujillo8539
@paultrujillo8539 Ай бұрын
Needed this to drop
@andrewfornes5320
@andrewfornes5320 Ай бұрын
I built mine around artifacts & the artifact creatures that make artifacts cost 1 less. If you get two of them out like og one and the offspring then your offspring is free. I also put Cayth, Fames Mechanist in for more tokens and 1/1s.
@rickperriwinkle
@rickperriwinkle Ай бұрын
I'm confused, how are you making offspring free?
@JasonOshinko
@JasonOshinko Ай бұрын
@@rickperriwinkle Offspring is an additional cost to cast the spell. If you have effects that reduce the cost of spells you cast, it will reduce the amount you pay for offspring.
@pigcow7744
@pigcow7744 Ай бұрын
Some crazy stuff I've done with this deck: 5 solemn simulacrum ETBs (without Zinnia) thanks to Arthur, a restoration angel, and the luminous broodmoth Pumped the Devilish Valet from 1 power to 32 in a turn with the Jacked Rabbit Sacrificed a copy of the Selfless spirit to shield my board from a martial coup (then my dozen odd guys were free to strike at an empty board) This is my favorite commander deck by far.
@definitelyarealchef
@definitelyarealchef Ай бұрын
i got devilish valet to 128 power last night using the card that makes goblins (cant remember its name)
@fredmyers503
@fredmyers503 Ай бұрын
I cant wait to see the extra turns were you guys pick one of the upgrade precons you have upgraded to play against each other!
@sulakkalus
@sulakkalus Ай бұрын
Very excited for this precon. It’s surprisingly powerful.
@DatPaulGuy
@DatPaulGuy Ай бұрын
Miss the splurge/honorable mention segment
@thehermit196
@thehermit196 Ай бұрын
"its kicker" The intrusive thoughts almost won jimmy
@grimeyguy9989
@grimeyguy9989 Ай бұрын
Panharmonicon is a must add and boss’s chauffeur has over performed every time I dropped it. I used them as blockers or got swept and ended up with 20+citizens then revive it put 20 more 1/1 counters on it
@savannahlion3081
@savannahlion3081 Ай бұрын
WATCH OUT.... OR I'LL HIT YOU WITH MY BUFF STORK ! 🤘🦁🤘
@stuartbaxter-potter8363
@stuartbaxter-potter8363 Ай бұрын
Stornks. I like to think of it as Zinnia playing up a storm on their lute and attracting a crowd and just getting more fired up the bigger the audience gets.
@luffeinator2654
@luffeinator2654 Ай бұрын
So far I've been able to get Zinnia to an 8/3 with 1-power creatures; both offspring and not. Warren Warleader and Rapid Augmenter are great fun, especially when you get to offspring them - in the same vein with Agate Instigator, Molten Gatekeeper and Witty Roastmaster to ping multiple times per ETB
@Tclark6199
@Tclark6199 Ай бұрын
....you mean to tell me the guy I've been watching repair watches the last 2-ish years was an MTG GUY THE WHOLE TIME?!?!?
@commandcast
@commandcast Ай бұрын
He's a man of many talents!
@Tclark6199
@Tclark6199 Ай бұрын
@@commandcast and here I thought I loved his channel before 😭😭
@crossr1984
@crossr1984 Ай бұрын
This is the one I'm interested... Of course it's sold out on Amazon😢
@AlienoidGamer
@AlienoidGamer Ай бұрын
It's literally the best of the four, sold out for good reason
@BroncosDaBomb19
@BroncosDaBomb19 Ай бұрын
I love that Nesting Dovehawk hasn’t been $9 in like 2 weeks. That thing doubled in price
@rudysal1429
@rudysal1429 Ай бұрын
Yea, I'm gonna have to wait a while until the price drops. Way to expensive now
@shadowdesmond
@shadowdesmond Ай бұрын
@@rudysal1429 same here
@markmason2216
@markmason2216 Ай бұрын
@@rudysal1429 I wonder if we're going to have to wait for a commander masters set for a reprint?
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Ай бұрын
Nesting Dovehawk is an MVP, Reprint Please WOTC ;p
@SwedishWookie
@SwedishWookie Ай бұрын
I wanted it for my Satya deck but hoooh boy D:
@michaelwhitney2620
@michaelwhitney2620 Ай бұрын
Stinky Binky
@DivinePenguin00
@DivinePenguin00 Ай бұрын
Me: Oh cool, Agate Instigator because he's firing little agate crystals!". Jimmy: "A-Got-Ay Instigator!"
@memetea6065
@memetea6065 Ай бұрын
Thank you, everyone I’ve seen keeps mispronouncing it and I was like “Am I crazy? The agate crystals are right there on the card!” Lol
@Hencid
@Hencid Ай бұрын
my whole play group bought a bloomborrow deck and i am quite sad to say that i feel quite let down after picking this deck, all the reprints are niche and overall quite bad in the deck and the deck looks so inconsistent
@Threader4444
@Threader4444 Ай бұрын
Well at least you can sell pollywog and nesting dovehawk has spiked in value.
@Hencid
@Hencid Ай бұрын
@@Threader4444 nesting dovehawk isn't in the deck sadly, which is one of the main misses of the deck.
@pokelover02
@pokelover02 Ай бұрын
I see that Dungeons & Daddies mug 😏
@Kazutoification
@Kazutoification Ай бұрын
I think 'Agate' is pronounced 'agg-it', Jimmy...
@craftmasterasaga
@craftmasterasaga Ай бұрын
Each new set, there always seems to be a precon that Rachel is most excited about. Those tend to be the precons I pick up, upgrade, and have heaps of fun with! However with Bloomburrow I couldn't tell which one she liked best. Could anyone at the CommandZone tell me? (pretty please
@2livesleft
@2livesleft Ай бұрын
Rachel's explanation of the interaction between Delney and Zinnia was something I would have never noticed
@the_r4ts
@the_r4ts Ай бұрын
I saw them in EDHREC and thought "Alright, they double the 1/1 copy's triggers, but they're legendary so probably not worth running in my build", then watched the rest of the video and promptly shoved them into the deck XD
@rabelcastillo1299
@rabelcastillo1299 Ай бұрын
Cutting Combat Celebrant is a horrible choice! You get two combat celebrants for two chances of extra combat!
@fizzyheart2486
@fizzyheart2486 Ай бұрын
Combat celebrant is a good card but it’s not a good fit here
@BarbeqdBrwniez
@BarbeqdBrwniez Ай бұрын
It also goes infinite with helm of the host.
@caseysummers3437
@caseysummers3437 Ай бұрын
I cut it too. Even with the infinite you have to give it evasion or swing at someone who can't block and kill it.
@jsato4921
@jsato4921 Ай бұрын
@@caseysummers3437 You actually never need to swing with the one wearing the helm, it prints a copy that hasn't been exerted each combat.
@danielcurren2119
@danielcurren2119 Ай бұрын
Intangible virtue, elpeth’s talent, gold forged thopterix, hero of the precinct one, hop to it, Aurelia the warleader and key to the army of offspring: tetsuko umezawa, fugitive- making all 1 power creatures unblockable
@thriftypsgr
@thriftypsgr Ай бұрын
Whitemane Lion feels good in this deck. You cast it and pay for the offspring, you use the offspring ETB to bounce a creature that is either high value ETB or being targeted and then use the original whitemane to bounce him back to your hand also
@lotrloreman
@lotrloreman Ай бұрын
Definitely good, but you're not allowed Thrifty. Aulela says no! -Zand
@thriftypsgr
@thriftypsgr Ай бұрын
@@lotrloreman you have to be able to use her lol
@sandydelrosario6748
@sandydelrosario6748 Ай бұрын
The banter in the very beginning of this episode reinforced to me that there needs to be a just random topic video with various guests
@davisyoung1585
@davisyoung1585 Ай бұрын
Having played with this deck for a bit I can actually say that junk winder is better than it gets credit for. Even if not fully discounted, it’s pretty easy to get that thing out with an offspring and shut down somebody’s entire board the next turn. Also underrated is selfless spirit. 4 mana to protect your entire board at any time, twice, and with no mana cost. Another commenter mentioned how well this pairs with martial coup (which I would choose to keep in the deck). Cannot tell you how many times selfless spirit has kept me in the game. Also, throwing in a few clone creatures (Spark Double) is pretty sweet. Throw in a Panharmonicon and you’re getting so many ETB triggers it’s almost not even worth keeping track of.
@starmanda88
@starmanda88 Ай бұрын
B E N C H I N G B A B I E S
@alexjunge5826
@alexjunge5826 Ай бұрын
LAST POD ON THE LEFT!? Command Zone and LPOTL, together at last.
@hilldn87
@hilldn87 3 күн бұрын
Hail Yourself.
@thriftypsgr
@thriftypsgr Ай бұрын
I actually have all of these cards! So good. This is my wife’s deck and I can’t wait to go over the upgrades with her
@Xylak
@Xylak Ай бұрын
I got all 4 precons, and in playing around with them, seeing gameplay, and considering what other, smarter players were saying about this deck, I gotta say that this was the most disappointing and weakest of the bloomburrow precons. Zinnia has a strong ability, and Arthur is quite good too, but the deck feels disjointed in what it tries to do. Zinnia can effectively double up on Enters effects in one of the more inefficient ways, since blink exists and is so well supported, but the deck seems most effective when it tries to make a ton of 1/1 tokens. There are a bunch of effects in these colors to mass produce tokens like that but few of them are in the deck. But the double Enters isn't a bad way to go necessarily, it just needs a lot of support. I think if they put in more ramp, that could have smoothed out the deck, since you effectively want to spend 2 extra mana on every creature you cast. Putting in cards to bounce creatures would be good too, like Shrieking Drake, so that you can have a body and also bounce a card to hand (Pay 3 mana to get a 1/1 copy of the drake, and the original drake plus an enters effect on your side goes back to hand). Heck, Panharmonicon was just reprinted for Science! but fits far better with this strategy than Helm of the Host. I know a lot of people were hyped because the deck seemed strong, and in theory it could be the strongest of the 4, after all it has an infinite combo in the box (combat celebrant + helm gives infinite combats iirc). But in practice it just tends to fall short. It isn't weak, but the other decks just seem to have a more cohesive overall strategy straight out the box. It has some of the highest potential, but if you just buy it and use it as is, the other 3 are a bit stronger and more consistent.
@jocoro29
@jocoro29 Ай бұрын
i liked the plumecreed scort. And if you offspring it and have all the stuff to populate the copy you can protect a creature each turn from spells. (And you can do the same with damage with the selfless spirit)
@shadowmyst9661
@shadowmyst9661 Ай бұрын
I’m considering adding Terror of the Peaks as my fourth Impact Tremors effect. I definitely included cards like Panharmonicon, and Virtue of Knowledge (I do also intend to add Elesh Norn, MOM when I get one) to get even more value from all the ETB triggers in the deck. I also added Cloudstone Curio as a way to bounce my actual creatures back to hand when their Token Offspring Enter so I can reuse them again later.
@hilldn87
@hilldn87 3 күн бұрын
Don't forget Purph
@DannyMcLaneDC
@DannyMcLaneDC 21 күн бұрын
HEY! I love tokens and doubling stuff, so as soon as i saw this deck i snapped it up and obsessed over tuning it for a few days. Def. recommend Ojer Taq, and Panharmonicon type effects (Mondrak for double tokens, Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines double ETB) but a few less obvious benefits are for other things that make tokens without Zinnia, because we're not running a ton of protection for them and they could get bolted out of cast range. i put in Skyclaive relic because when Kicked, it makes 2 token copies of itself upon ETB so in a ideal scenario (more likely in the the late game) you can double the ETB and get 4, or double the tokens and get 4 or both and end up with 8 token copies for 6 mana. the other tech I think no one has mentioned is Equilibrium 1BB for an enchantment that lets you pay 1 upon cast of a creature, to return a creature to owners hand. you can use this to flash in a bounce creature with offspring and return 3 attacking creatures to owners hand, or use it to target your creatures on the board when you cast and new creature so you can re-cast and re-offspring the one you picked up. also from the Warhammer 40K set there's a few cards with Squad ( when you cast it, pay x any number of times , when this creature enters, make copies of it equal to the number of times the squad cost was paid) so late game what you have ( Ultramarines Honour Guard) as a a normal 4MV 2/2 that buffs all your other creatures by +1/+1 now is for 8MV and gives you the original plus offspring copy AND a Squad copy WITH offspring copy, that is a 2/2 then instantly your whole board gets +4/+4 and each of them see each other and get +3/+3 so are 5/5 for the original and squad copy and 4/4 for the offspring. or another really good at is Serra Redeemer, 3WW for a 2/4 flying that says "Whenever another creature you control with power 2 or less enters, put two +1/+1 counters on that creature." with 2 on the board your 1/1 offspring get +4/+/4 and that's not including any other doubling effects. i have a decklist, but that's a little beyond what y'all asked about, but this is the direction i took it in.
@Demerwe
@Demerwe Ай бұрын
When I upgraded my Zinnia deck, I treated the two abilities separately. I added both nice creatures to offspring (like soul warden and brash taunter), but also added some legendaries that might be terrible offspring targets, but buff zinnia incredibly quickly and synergises really well with the rest of the deck (like Locust God), and the deck can absolutely run away with the game.
@abrahamwilliams2280
@abrahamwilliams2280 Ай бұрын
Is is it just me, But delney, and nesting dovehawk, should be in the honorable mentions / splurge cards. They both are 20 or more dollars its a good thing I already have them, Also not sure how creatures with offspring work with zinnea. For example pulled a warren warleader toda and am adding it its a very good offspring critter from the main set. Also idol of oblivion seems right or is that just me too. Anyways good ideas just not budget friendly.
@virreerikson617
@virreerikson617 Ай бұрын
I have played this deck and find it quite manaheavy. I would like Knight of the White Orchid eaven if there is one exactly like this. I also love esper sentinel and Charismatic Conqueror. it might make you a target tho. Also a removable card I think is Arthur. Its a nice card but dosent does exactly what zinnia wants to do. Also is brudiclad a monster in this deck.
@starmanda88
@starmanda88 Ай бұрын
I wonder if I’m first. Close enough!
@lightfut
@lightfut Ай бұрын
I didn't anticipate how much of a peeve it would be for all of the a-GAT-e happening in this set. I swear people never picked up a shiny rock before. AG-et. Look them up. They're super cool.
@hilldn87
@hilldn87 3 күн бұрын
What did you call me? I'll look them up, but that was pretty uncalled for.
@rlftwalker
@rlftwalker Ай бұрын
I like to know where can I find rules for commander because they kept saying having more then one card and from wat I was told you are limited to one of each card expect basic lands
@chrisgallo2236
@chrisgallo2236 Ай бұрын
What about Burn At The Stake as little piece of tech as a finisher at the end? You’re making a decent amount of tokens coincidentally.
@TK-zd7ym
@TK-zd7ym Ай бұрын
I think Arthur is definitely a card that should be removed. I mean it was the first card in the deck that I was like "this really doesn't belong here" but I agree with the other removals.
@MirrorAshes
@MirrorAshes Ай бұрын
Oltec Matterweaver can also copy treasure tokens! Great card.
@alanregis6792
@alanregis6792 Ай бұрын
I would add Skrelv's Hive to this deck. Makes 1/1 creatures on each of your upkeeps.
@WindchargerPrime
@WindchargerPrime Ай бұрын
Bruidclad
@Austinduncaniscool
@Austinduncaniscool Ай бұрын
This deck was my second choice but I ended up going with Peace Offering because it seemed fun and I like wabbits
@jacobmartin8758
@jacobmartin8758 Ай бұрын
So I can offspring Apex Devistator and cascade 8 times... I'm going to try this
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Ай бұрын
LOL So not only will Zinnia bring you the baby but they got some romantic ditty's to put y'all in the mood! ;P
@madscientist2621
@madscientist2621 Ай бұрын
Thoughts on Perplexing test? Bounce all of your non-token creatures ( and your opponents) and you can get all of your ETBs back.
@bryceduyvewaardt8136
@bryceduyvewaardt8136 Ай бұрын
Great! There’s a few cards in the precons that can swap with each other, like taking out the Perplexing Test from Ms Bumbleflower’s 99 and putting in the Pollywog Prodigy since it can have more +1s added to it faster than just evolving. Sword of the squeak also fits from the Hazel deck.
@lewisrainwater9527
@lewisrainwater9527 Ай бұрын
Helm of the host doesn't double power from your commander. It's quadruples it.
@glittch135
@glittch135 Ай бұрын
Myr battlesphere and Devestation twins are two of my favs I have in my deck
@HollowdTV
@HollowdTV Ай бұрын
Did I hear you say Go Birds?!?! E.A.G.L.E.S. Eagles!!!
@UGDMchris
@UGDMchris Ай бұрын
Hail Yourselves!
@caseysummers3437
@caseysummers3437 Ай бұрын
Plumecreed escort is so cuttable. I made my zinnia deck bird themed and still cut it lol
@katchinska
@katchinska Ай бұрын
why do they push archideck so hard when forge is vastly superior?
@lkledu2
@lkledu2 29 күн бұрын
Baby elesh nor
@losttheory2761
@losttheory2761 Ай бұрын
40:22 just noting that populate only works for creature tokens. 👌
@dylan9624
@dylan9624 Ай бұрын
Ive debated about adding anim pakal to him. Thoughts?
@Dirtycook0430
@Dirtycook0430 Ай бұрын
Just won a game in a funny way. I had Zinnia on field. Inspiring leader as background. Used two offsprings to cast Agate Instigator. Then I already had two jack rabbits in field cause of offspring. There power was 8/8 and 8/9. Attacking with the rabbits creates bunnies equal to power. Which caused Agate to trigger. All that was using zero skill cause I literally fell into the win. Didn’t even realize all of that would happen 😅
@SAWOfficialChannel
@SAWOfficialChannel 28 күн бұрын
Hi! I just restarted playing and im dumb xD how did you evoke the jacked rabbits as 8/8 and 8/9? I mean how much mana did u spend? The second one casted with offspring have the X value too?
@ushman18ify
@ushman18ify Ай бұрын
Offspringing combat celebrate creates a loop of infinite combat steps
@shanonkallhoff2431
@shanonkallhoff2431 Ай бұрын
@Whitewing89
@Whitewing89 Ай бұрын
How are you coming to 11 card draw in the base deck?
@George-mm8cr
@George-mm8cr Ай бұрын
Built this as artifact creatures with cost reducers to get free offspring as rule 601.2f sees additional costs as total casting costs, so it can be reduced
@JasonOshinko
@JasonOshinko Ай бұрын
This would be interesting with modular creatures.
@George-mm8cr
@George-mm8cr Ай бұрын
@@JasonOshinko never even occurred to me. Great idea! Definitely will add a few
@elijahboulders377
@elijahboulders377 28 күн бұрын
@36:45 Delney doubles babies?! Is that true?!
@Negative_NBG
@Negative_NBG Ай бұрын
Jimmy, it's AG-ET, it's a kind of rock
@Debatra.
@Debatra. Ай бұрын
Getting an Offspring of Combat Celebrant means they can untap each other for infinite combats if they can survive. But they aren't going to survive.
@Natedogg2
@Natedogg2 Ай бұрын
Keep in mind that they can only exert themselves once each turn - "If Combat Celebrant hasn't been exerted this turn". So you could get three combats each turn, but not an infinite amount each turn.
@ingolf82
@ingolf82 Ай бұрын
I want to congratulate Gavin and WOTC for balancing "Winota" with this new card here, "Arthur Merrigold knight". this is a balanced Winota. The creature you bring in doesn't get any protection and it's bounced to your hand after combat so you need to recast it. impact tremors should be a cheap card to add, assuming its not already in here. another fun include is Purphoros, God of the forge, but he is very expensive, but hey., if you have one already, he is good here.
@platypus121212
@platypus121212 Ай бұрын
Brudiclad is such a blowout in this deck. If you offspring an illustrious wanderglyph you can turn ALL your tokens into wanderglyphs, and give everything X +2/+2 where X is your token count. I did something similar in my Tetzin deck and swept
@GlacialJaguar
@GlacialJaguar Ай бұрын
Birbs!
@sulakkalus
@sulakkalus Ай бұрын
Some cards I added: Fountainport Flamerush Rider (you can get multiple offspring using a cheaper Dash payment) Sardian Avenger Unsettled Mariner Breya’s Apprentice Serum Visionary Cephalid Constable Strionic Resonator Phyrexian Metamorph Scholar of New Horizons Bennie Bracks, Zoologist Satya, Aetherflux Genius Spelltithe Enforcer Ledger Shredder
@adamrobinson6951
@adamrobinson6951 Ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't add Brudiclad. Having all your ETB offspring creatures become copies of your threats after triggering sounds really powerful.
@TaviIsLost
@TaviIsLost Ай бұрын
Jimmy, you’re awesome man! What deck do you think will be your favorite from Bloomburrow? What about out of the precons? Jw, sorry if I missed it in a recent video, I’ve been watching them but I may have missed it 😅
@bluqbe
@bluqbe Ай бұрын
Hmmmm! Its one thing to have the set named 'Family Matters', but to have the creatures playing music too?! What are the chances WoTC is giving a wink & nod to Kendrick & Drake rap beef :o
@Zarigun
@Zarigun Ай бұрын
Do you need to get more tokens for it? I don’t understand tokens. So would I need a token for every card in the deck since they are all copies, or do I just grab a random back of a card and use that as the token and put it under the character it is a copy of? I’m sorry I’m Confused
@Natedogg2
@Natedogg2 Ай бұрын
You're not required to use the tokens found in packs. You just need some way to clearly represent what the token is. I wouldn't recommend other cards (since they can be confused with face down cards), but you could always make your own tokens or use something like Inifitokens, designed to be used for a variety of purposes like representing tokens.
@Kazutoification
@Kazutoification Ай бұрын
I have the Family Matters precon, as well as the Blame Game precon. So... I'll be goading opponents and board clearing, haha.
@Flameboy53
@Flameboy53 Ай бұрын
Brudiclad would make for some hillarious games. Definitely not the "best" option for this deck but it could funny if all your tokens suddenly became terror of the peaks or sun titans.
@jarvis2892
@jarvis2892 Ай бұрын
I don't know if anyone has said this in the comments, but I noticed that they have "11" as the main number to reference the emphasis on 1/1 creatures and more "wipes" than most decks to signify baby wipes. I found that pretty cheeky of them.
@benpeterson7028
@benpeterson7028 Ай бұрын
I just got this deck today and I gotta say there's a surprisingly small amount of just straight up animals in it. It would be sweet in a future episode you come up with a deck list that was just animals instead of all the humans, artifact creatures, elves, and devils. More woodland creatures for the flavor win!
@pepdawg18
@pepdawg18 Ай бұрын
Awesome video and great suggestions! :)
@MikhailHudon_ZerithFarron
@MikhailHudon_ZerithFarron Ай бұрын
I'm waiting for the day some inspired and heroic artist decides to make Offspring Token Proxies for ever Non-Legend.
@crocholiday
@crocholiday Ай бұрын
I tried to play this deck a couple days ago but missed land drops, especially for green so the ramp cards in my hand did nothing but stare blankly at me lol. Will give it a go again this weekend... and hopefully shuffle better this time haha. I did get Agate Instigator out which pecked away at them a little before I was mercilessly pummeled.
@SadwichPunch2100
@SadwichPunch2100 Ай бұрын
Akim, the Soaring Wind came to mind. Create a 1/1 Bird everytime you Offspring. Plus pay to give all your tokens doublestrike.
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