Jaime Lannister vs Daemon Targaryen : Who Is the Better Warrior?

[@ct-117]

I think The Unsullied vs The Golden Company could be a cool comparison. Army vs army sounds neat

[@TheFandomeClips]

Hey CT great to see you! Not next week but week after (depending on how tied up Thom is with Christmas stuff) we're doing a video on the armies of Westeros if that stuff floats your boat! If it does well we might put your idea on the drawing board! Shiny mercs Vs the most disciplined slave army in the world is definitely an interesting match up! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@georgeprchal3924]

I'm choosing The Golden Company. Elephants with Westerosi knights.

[@Rizz779]

@@ct-117 Golden Company destroys the Unsullied

[@rogeliomanueldiazmoreno2818]

Only elephants would give GC a chance, remember Unsullied defeated at Qhor a Dothraki force outnumbering them 10 to 1, and even elephants are not unbeatable.

[@Rizz779]

@@rogeliomanueldiazmoreno2818 Golden Company actually wear armor unlike the Dothraki And heavier armor than the light unsullied armor 1. Golden Company have advanced archer units with Goldenheart bows 2. Have the Elephants 3. Have Calvary 4. Are the most sought after mercs and so rich they waste gold like nothing lol They’re a functional army and not just bodyguards like the Unsullied who they’d destroy

[@cadenroedl4896]

I recognize this would be a difficult match-up to determine but Corlys Velaryon vs. Euron Greyjoy in a contest of who is the better captain? A battle between the Sea-Snake and Silence and the skills of their captains. Who is the better navigator, who is the better ship commander, and who has the better ship and crew. Does the Kraken devour the Seahorse or is Crow's Eye struck blind by the Sea Snake?

[@TheFandomeClips]

Honestly a fantastic suggestion that Caden! I think Thom would find that interesting as well! We might wait a bit though to see more of the sea snake in action and we might hold out just a wee bit more hope that we'll get Winds so we can really see what Eurons all about! It's a great suggestion though! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@cadenroedl4896]

@@TheFandomeClips To be completely honest I'm just happy to hear you like the idea! Keep up the amazing work.

[@lacym9278]

Awesome idea

[@b1bbscraz3y]

Corlys hands down. Euron abuses his crew and takes out their tongues. people actually wanted to sail for Corlys of their own will and continued to sail with him until the end. and Corlys enriched house Velaryon beyond what they had from his voyages

[@veloxfurem]

"whos the better at sleeping with their close relatives?" in daemons defense, shit was normalized in his culture + he married rhaenyra for political purposes. jaime and cersei absolutely have no excuse whatsoever.

[@TheFandomeClips]

That is true in fairness, but do we mark Daemon up because he's following the rules or give it to Jaime because he's getting away with breaking them? 🤣 Thanks for watching as always buddy! Liam

[@juanloaiza9975]

Jaime was a Maverick

[@KakashiHatake-or4zu]

Nah daemon is more of a creep "he loved deflowering young maidens" while Jaime is showing his distance to Cersei now and admiring brienne

[@strawberryshower1175]

​@@KakashiHatake-or4zu honestly... If Jaime hadn't loved Cersei, he would've probably became the best knight of Westeros. Alas...

[@lukewatson411]

You should totally make more chapter readings!! The last one was so incredibly made.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Luke buddy, appreciate it! The issue is the time they take. The last one wasn't even as finished as it could have been (I was going to score it musically and refine the SFX) and it still took an immense amount of hours to put together. It's not off the table, but unless someone is going to pay me to live while I make them, they just aren't feasible as a regular thing 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam

[@Rebel_Lord_Taron]

@@TheFandomeClips I agree with Luke you need to do more of those they are f****** awesome

[@neodigremo]

Oooh, this is another wonderfully close one. By skill Jamie has an edge, but Damon has a bit more experience. Jamie is better at focusing, but Damon has better kit. This is seriously, as you say, entirely going to depend on the tiniest external advantage being translated into a moment to make the final push. I would say that IF Damon stays calm then he probably just about takes it, but IF Jamie can draw it out a bit or get under Damon's skin he wins. Razor thin margins, and it likely ends up going something like 6:4 in the results.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Neo, I think you'll be in the minority like us with that opinion. Most are just going to say "but Jaime goat in skill, George says so Jaime stomps Daemon" 😂 It's the sort of match up that separates people whose fighting knowledge comes entirely from fiction (mainly anime) and people who have some real world experience. Skill only gets you so far or makes up for so much before other factors like size, equipment and psychology start taking over. Look at Gregor Vs Syrio Forel. Forel is undoubtedly vastly more skilled than Gregor, it's almost by a laughable margin. But in a fight? Gregors equipment, size and weaponry gives him such a monumental leg up Vs Syrio and his equipment that the dancing master is firmly on the back foot, possibly even outmatched by it. Don't get me wrong I still think Jaime takes it, but I thinks it's way closer than people think. Thanks for watching as always mate we appreciate it! Liam

[@ucnguyenanh9414]

Jaime has his own share of experience too. Countless tourneys, the whispering wood where he wore down the smiling knight for Ser Arthur, the Greyjoy Rebellion, his battles in the Riverlands.

[@John14710]

@@neodigremo true, it would be such a mental game as well

[@The_Malcontented]

@15:31 In both the books and show, Jaime's hands were also still manacled for his fight with Brienne. Brienne thinks to herself during their fight that he'd be putting up even more of a fighter if his hands were unbound, yet Jaime still attacks her while he is bound, malnourished, and hasn't had any exercise in months because he''s been locked in a dungeon. He certainly didn't have to deal with low self-esteem

[@TheFandomeClips]

😂 Yeah he was a confident dude that's for sure. Alot of people use that fight (along with the show only one Vs the Hound) as a way of saying how awesome Brienne is, but Jaime was at less than 50% of his normal output, I think even Brienne herself acknowledges that were he unbound and fresh he would have killed her immediately and that noone could have stood against him at full strength. Brienne is still awesome though, just not Jaime level awesome..,.........yet. Thanks for watching as always mate!

[@hermajesty6970]

I was thinking when I first clicked on the video that you couldn’t give Jamie Oath Keeper without losing his hand first. Fantastic idea, I hadn’t realised how close they actually would be

[@TheFandomeClips]

Aye you can't give Jaime Oath keeper without taking the hand, this is thrones the price must paid 😂 I think Jaime gets a little overrated due to fans taking George's statements about him being the Goat to mean he can't ever be bested in a fight. The same was said of Arthur Dayne and he was killed in combat just like any other man........as far as we know. The best of one era should realistically be able to stand with the best of another when PEDs aren't a thing 😂 Thank you for watching we really appreciate it! Liam

[@jeremygilbert7989]

The Kingslayer had to deal with the Mad King constantly talking shit about his family for years while serving him and later had to deal with the endless lechery of his brother-in-law, the new king, against the Queen who was not only his sister but his lover. Jaime's honestly a paragon of restraint for what he endured as a Kingsguard, there's absolutely no chance Daemon would have endured the same for even an instant.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Oi we'll have less Bobby B slander in these comments thank you very much!!!!! 😂 But in seriousness you make a fantastic point. A lot of people paint Jaime as reckless and hot headed but I think sometimes he's like "you know what? I've really had enough of everyone's shit" 😂 Thanks for watching Jeremy! Liam

[@Psub950]

Syrio Forel vs Khal Drogo

[@TheFandomeClips]

It's on the list buddy! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@John14710]

Syrio gets crushed surely

[@MummysBraveBoy]

@@John14710 Not necessarily. Drogo doesn't wear armour, remember and whilst he is known and not just fast, but sudden, Syrio is a master water-dancer. The lack of armour is a perfect example for, "All men are made of water, do you know this? If you pierce them, the water leaks out.. and they die!" I'm not saying this means Syrio takes it, but keep it in mind. It would be a smashing contest though, I do concur. Famedome, love the work. Looking to get into similar myself. Lots of ideas. Hopefully it shows soon.

[@cameronwixcey9692]

Forel all day long. Rapier vs arakh in unarmoured combat. Rapier is faster and stabs are more dangerous than cuts.

[@lacym9278]

I swear, the voice on these is half the reason i watch, always makes these matches sound epic

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Lacy, it's nice to have it complimented. Normally the comparisons I get is it's like ear sandpaper 😂 thank you for watching! Liam

[@NedTalbert]

Criston cole vs jon snow! The line up we have been waiting for.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I feel that's a little unfair on Jon no? 😂 Criston is not out of the conversation for the best around for his time whereas Jon is good, but not hitting that top tier..............yet. Thanks for watching Ned! Liam

[@Rebel_Lord_Taron]

@@TheFandomeClips Ser Fistin' Pole sucks lol and I think the rogue Prince could beat Lamie Jannister 9 out of 10 times. Why do I say 9 out of 10 because there's always a chance that the rogue Prince could trip over a rock or have a boot come untied or something lol

[@3esiln]

​@@Rebel_Lord_Taron First, Sir Crispin licks not sucks... Second no matter what you might think of him as a person, at that point in time he is a valid consideration for the stronges knight alive probably top 5 all things considered.

[@Rebel_Lord_Taron]

@@3esiln first that is a matter of opinion. Second I have my own opinion but I do respect you for yours.

[@Minuteman270]

I agree but the think the experience gap would be small because I wonder how much of the conquest of the stepstones was spent riding Caraxes.

[@TheFandomeClips]

That's true, though it's still a two year war and I suspect there will have been plenty of on foot stuff. Jaime was really unlucky bless him to get taken out so early in TWOTFK. Imagine what he would have accomplished if not for Robs tactical brilliance. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@xBOBALUx]

The same way that being a Lannister paid for all of Jaime's equipment and training, being a Targaryen gives Daemon a certain advantage as well. An advantage of the giant, flying, and fire-breathing variety.

[@TheFandomeClips]

😂 Bob I tried to let Daemon have his flying friend, but Thom said no. It's "cheating" apparently. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@vink5581]

Betting my life savings on Jaime winning

[@TheFandomeClips]

How much did you win Vink? 😂 Life changing money I hope! 🙏 Thanks for watching! Liam

[@vink5581]

@TheFandomeClips about 3 dollars and 50 cents, eating good tonight.

[@dylanperrone6769]

7:40 “being considered the best by the best.” is the smartest thing you’ve ever said haha. Awesome video guys, thanks!

[@TheFandomeClips]

Glad you enjoyed it Dylan! Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@fire1655]

One thing I would like to note as far as the training that they would’ve gotten with weapons and all Daemon have been trained by members of the Kingsguard we see it in the main show where one of the members serves as master of arms, so we can somewhat make it a speculation that the Targaryen liked to have their children trained by loyal people, and who better than the people who are supposed to be guarding our lives one of the seven best Warriors in the kingdom at their time.

[@TheFandomeClips]

That's true and pretty fair assumption to make. We're thinking of using old Daemon once we've got season 3 so we'll probably bring this up there! Thanks for the insight! Liam

[@B.Specter]

Show : Daemon Book : Jaime via statements Daemon in the books got disarmed by Cole with morning star keep in mind disarming ≠ winning due skill and being better, also Daemon in the show has shown to be arguably the best in the show imo because he did won in 1vs1 against Cole and lost the mele due to flexing to the crowd and is shown to slash people like its nothing so Daemon (books) is underrated but show he's perfect, smart af when it comes to fighting, fights dirty and is not afraid to test his luck plus him jumping from Caraxes to Vhagar midair , removing Aemond helmet and killing him is by far the best feat in verse but the video doesn't include that part , great video and I love this channel ♥️

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thank you Specter for the kind words! Yeah honesty can't wait to see Daemon do that in live action and once we have seen him in the dance we'll do a video on older Daemon against another warrior (maybe old man Barristan) Thanks for watching! Liam

[@nickdentoom1173]

Like... thats kinda the problem We have heard from Jaimes deeds via statements, but the thing is that statements can be over exaggerated, especially if they are coming from people that are close to that person. Its kinda the problem comparing a show character with its original book counterpart. For example, show Jon is in the top tier of fighters in Game of Thrones, while in the books he is just the average, mediocre fighter, especially comparing him to other characters. Then we for example have show Areo Hotah and book Areo Hotah... book Hotah is supposed to be one of the top tier fighters in Westeros, while the show made him the Sand Snakes bitch. So perspective matters a lot too. Book Daemon is shit, show Daemon is supposed to be the best fighter of his time... while Cole is portrayed the other way around.

[@jeffreym8503]

@@nickdentoom1173 book daemon is shit? Says you his sword prowess was good enough to be knighted by his grandfather the king at 16 and as far as loosing to cole so what!.. you act like cole was an average fighter and not one of if not thee best of that time!... daemon slew plenty of people in single combat and was considered the most dangerous man in westeros I don't think you get called that by being "shit" with the sword

[@genemaxwell4]

Very great breakdown. Top marks!!

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Gene we really appreciate the kind words! Thanks for watching as always buddy! Liam

[@Stoic-Waziri]

Ah yeah my favourite channel is back with a bang. Hopefully when I finish my animated series on African history you will do videos like these for fans🎉🎉

[@darkxdead]

I want a time-bending show of just two of them going around, messing/fixing all the things that they couldn't do separately in their own times.

[@G.4.E.L]

it's sad to know that the internet has completely wiped out realistic duels, nowadays people just think that a character is stronger or something, so he wins without difficulty, but these same people forget that these concepts were introduced in scenarios where fantasy is such that these terms make sense, but when we take into account a duel in a “realistic” universe, they simply don't make sense, because let's say that in an anime (or a very fantasy universe), the strongest character in the universe manages to beat almost everyone with a certain ease because the differences in power are immense, but in realistic universes the strongest can lose to almost anyone depending on the circumstances, no one is invincible in a realistic scenario, just look at arthur dayne, no fight of the strongest in a realistic universe results in an easy victory, almost all of them the two warriors have a chance of winning and losing, and these chances are closer together than most people think, because again people are used to concepts made for very fanciful duels, and forget how a realistic duel works.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I whole heartedly agree. In a world like Westeros, chance and the circumstances of the day make more difference than sword skill and "power levels" Hell to back up your Dayne point look at the fight between Brienne and the Hound in the show. Most would agree the Hound was favoured to win all things been equal, but he was absolutely knackered from sleeping rough, starved and had a wound that was on the verge of becoming septic, factors that didn't allow him to be at his best and so Brienne was able to beat him. Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@crazyscotsman9327]

I wonder if Daimon's reputation might push Jaime to giving it his all. Like he shows up knowing oh shit I'm fighting the Rogue prince! Gotta give it everything I have and not fuck around. If he goes in thinking it's just a random Valyrian he might get cocky and wrecked. But good video!

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks my insane highland friend! Yeah I think if Jaime knows before hand, Daemon is done for. Jaime when he's not clowning around could beat just about anything.......... assuming his sword doesn't get stuck that is 😂 thanks for watching as always mate we appreciate it! Liam

[@rogeliomanueldiazmoreno2818]

Not only we have seen Ser Cole defeating Daemon, we also have seen Jaime taking care of participating in tournaments to assess the capabilities of possible rivals. So there is a level of foresight there. Remember what he said to Brienne, "there are three knights in Westeros that can defeat me". Intelligent to have them identified! even though he could have bypassed one or two more. Would ever Daemon have worried about that?

[@connor4435]

I think Jamie’s physicality will play a decently big role in this fight. As you said most fights of this type (plate armoured sword fighters against each other) will often devolve into wrestling and grappling and I think that Jaimie being a bit bigger and a bit stronger will help him edge out Daemon more often than not when it comes to that.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Absolutely, I think if Jaime can get the sword out of Daemons hands and force them to go at it with their daggers his odds go way up. Strength and size becomes quite important at that point, especially if the agility gap isn't big . Still I wouldn't count Daemon out though, he might not have the body of a greek god but he's evidently got a shit ton of functional strength if we look at his feats. Thanks for watching Connor we appreciate it! Liam

[@AlexanderRodriguez-dd1eq]

It’s probably my hatred for Targaryens talking but my money goes to Jaime look forward to your videos as Always Also video suggestion Could Ned and Robert have stopped the Dothraki “and just for fun let’s put the Unsullied” if they had invaded when they were alive

[@TheFandomeClips]

Hey Alex thanks! You'll be getting your wish with regard to Ned when I get the script finished, the North is first up in our Drogo invading Westeros series! Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@cdcdrr]

I would have really liked to see Daemon take it, but I can't disagree that between the two volatile tempers in the room, Daemon is easily the more unpredictable and unstable. And if there was just one thing Jaime takes serious, it's a swordfight. But he'd better remember there are more legendary warriors all through the history of Westeros and Essos.

[@TheFandomeClips]

It honestly was a close one mate. Was tempted to call it a draw but I think that's such a terrible cop out. Take heart though buddy, Jaime only takes it one more time than Daemon in our opinion, it's almost 50/50 Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam

[@LordBloodraven]

A spot-on assessment. Unlike my comment in the Viper vs. Kingslayer video, if both combatants were pregaming the day prior to the Trial by Combat, Daemon wouldn't necessarily resort to using poisons. I would say argue that he'd resort to using proxies to assassinate or otherwise maim Jaime prior to the fight (a la Blood and Cheese). Similar to the assassination attempt on Prince Aemond, Daemon's attempt would fail due to the quality of his proxies. Sending a rat-catcher and gold cloak to assassinate a highly skilled knight would be doomed to fail. However, a failure may be exactly what the Rogue Prince would want. Yes, Jaime would dispatch any would-be assassins, but the aftermath would force him to keep his guard up in the hours prior to the Trial by Combat. A well-rested Daemon would have factored this into keeping the Kingslayer off-balanced and fatigued. Jaime would still win, despite a handicap. He was able to give Brienne a fight, despite still being chained and having spent a year in captivity. A single restless night would barely take the top off his tank.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Hey Bloodraven good to see you! Yeah I agree with massively. Rattling Jaime won't be half as easy as rattling Daemon! Thanks for watching as always my friend! Liam

[@robcahn7663]

You mentioned in passing Daemon gloating causing his loss to Cole, almost as if you are discounting the loss because of it. But that was a weakness of Daemon's (celebrating too soon), and we have seen it sink a number of great fighters across the series (Oberyn springs to mind). In my opinion it is a pretty glaring weakness - as much so as 'playing fair' would be.

[@andrewflores5666]

@@robcahn7663 after that loss daemon never hesitated to kill on sight, plus in that setting it wasn’t life or death just a tourney, we see in the battle field daemon cuts down anything in his path without hesitation

[@TheFandomeClips]

I mean........ Daemon did lose that round because of his arrogance and temper. I don't really think we discounted it 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam

[@carastone3473]

GREAT VIDEO!

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Cara! We appreciate you always stopping by and tuning in! Liam

[@carastone3473]

I don't know, but I'd be down to watch it play out!!

[@MatthewBooth-xo3oq]

daemon got merked by cole twice how is this even fair

[@TheFandomeClips]

Not in the show he didn't 😂 seemed like he had cole dead to rights and only lost due to showboating Thanks for watching! Liam

[@aratus1622]

I’d like to see a a video on how the wildlings or nights watch could win/survive the game of thrones.

[@John14710]

Ok, the video I’ve been waiting for since starting to watch HotD. Is that ur real voice tho?

[@TheFandomeClips]

Hi John, it's my real voice in the sense that's it's not AI or had anything done to alter it aye 😂 but this could probably be categorised as my teacher/lecturer/public speaking voice, my conversation voice is a little softer but sounds roughly the same Thanks for watching! Liam

[@hk-4886]

Greatjon vs Bronn. It‘s assumed that Bronn may have a shot vs the Mountain so it‘s interesting to see what he does to a a little bit smaller but also maybe a little smarter Greatjon. In this duel the physical category can finally be used

[@TheFandomeClips]

Problem is GreatJon is a much better fighter than Gregor and probably not as stupid. I feel like it would be even harder for Bronn lol Thanks for watching as always HK! Liam

[@hk-4886]

@ feel like that’s why it would be interesting. Bronn can beat the Mountain but can he beat the Greatjon?

[@jameshedrick4490]

I fully agree with the results here, though I might give a slightly more favorable win to Jaime than you did. While I do agree with the fight IQ and anger issues being the main source of Jaime's victory I also think with these two valyrian steel doesn't make as much of a difference as some others seem to believe. It is unbreakable and never loses its edge, yes but it's main advantage is being lighter and therefore quicker than a regular sword. Jaime is notably stronger and more muscular than Daemon meaning he simply won't be weighed down as much by his weapon. I've done HEMA in the past and in my experience one thing that can tip the scale is a fighter becoming worn out by the weight of their weapon and their arm getting more and more tired from repeatedly swinging it. To me this is the true advantage of valyrian steel. It's sharper and stronger but it doesn't cut through other steel so functionally in a duel it acts as just a sword. However being lighter weight without sacrificing any strength or cutting power is a HUGE advantage against some opponents. In the case of Jaime however, because he is notably stronger than Daemon I don't think it will make any difference. His sword will be of the best quality possible without having valyrian steel and his superior strength means he is unlikely to get tired out faster under the weight of his own weapon. To me weapons and equipment in this fight are dead equal so neither will really have an advantage on that front. This takes it back to skill and fight psychology and in both categories, Jaime wins.

[@MC11723]

was this inspired by the our hits hurt video from a few months ago?

[@TheFandomeClips]

I'm afraid not. We're good pals with the guys at Hilts (and we're super happy for their recent success) and we love their Jaime Vs Daemon video, but that's more about who's a better character. This was just something we've had a lot of requests for in our Vs suggestions channel in our discord and me and Thom really like both characters so we thought why not for a bit of fun :) We try not to poach other channels ideas if we can help it (unless we think we can do something different with the idea) and they nailed their go at comparing the characters, our attempt would just be a poor imitation I think. Thanks for watching MC! Liam

[@haydenhodgson8716]

Brilliant video guys, so glad I got to enjoy this on patreon early. Do you guys agree that dark sister (damons sword) actually makes the weilder more ruthless and blood thirsty ?

[@TheFandomeClips]

Hey Hayden good to see you! Just wait till you see what's going up early next, one of our best vids yet I think!!!! I'm not sure how much stock I put in theory but I definitely think the case is there. V-Steel weapons are magical at the end of the day and it's suspected there is blood sacrifice involved. Maybe they do take in the essence of who is sacrificed and it can taint the wielder. You know something buddy this sounds like a good quick video idea on all honesty! Thanks for watching buddy and the continued support we honestly appreciate it! Liam

[@haydenhodgson8716]

Ill be honest I think their is, thanks for the response as always liam. You guys rock !! ​@TheFandomeClips

[@GustavFröhlich-s8g]

for the next video i would recommend sandoq vs sandor

[@willbyers7233]

Excellent video. I thought this would be a cop-out vid with the “too close to call” stuff but the way you explained everything… it is a bit too close to call. It is a “who wants it more today” kind of a matchup. But if we go for Daemon’s “win by all means necessary”, I’m pretty sure he’d fight Jamie with his dragon…. Unless the Jamie gets under Daemon’s skin and provoke him to fight mano-a-mano.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I did say to Thom this is a stomp, Jaime's good but he's not 1v1 Caraexes good, so we had to put that nerf in place 😂 Yeah I'm not a fan of those "it's too close, either will take it" conclusions you get in some Vs videos. There's always a way to get a winner even if it's just one more time in ten than the other. Thank you for watching Will we appreciate it! Liam

[@SolventnoizeYT]

Great video ❤

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks matey and thanks for tuning in, appreciate it! Liam

[@jeremy1860]

Great comparison. But I do have to wonder if the fact that they come from different eras might also play into it. Swordplay changes from century to century, so it's entirely possible that techniques and skills are better or more refined in one time period vs another. And with 200 years between them, it's likely another feather in Jaime's cap, given that "how to fight with a sword" has likely come a long way since Daemon's time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@thepunisher6674]

A good robert matchup would be robert vs sandog possible or sandog vs the mountain Or do something with daemon blackfyre

[@neodigremo]

@@thepunisher6674 Robert in his prime vs the Hound is tough. On prelim the Hound is probably more skilled, a little bit stronger and maybe more overall vicious. Maybe. Bobby B is the fury after all. And Bobby probably has more stamina, his hammer is useful kit and he fights a lot of bigger battles than Sandor does. As with most of the best matches this will either be over in seconds, or it’ll go to the judges.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Sandorq is probably one of the few who is a truly scary prospect for a young Robert. The guy doesn't sound like he was fully human 😂 we will use Sandorq one day mate holding our hope he'll appear in the last season of HOTD if we get some time skips! thanks for watching mate! Liam

[@thepunisher6674]

@ He definitely won’t appear in hotd because that would be awesome and that show doesn’t let us have good things

[@phippscopeland4394]

I hate it when people say “rogue Prince” a better moniker is “the most dangerous man in Westeros”

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think a few other characters have held that title though (including Jaime himself) whereas Rouge prince is unique to Daemon as best I remember. Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@John14710]

That’s not his main nicknane tho. Too long

[@KBD1999]

No announcement on the Discord? I almost missed this

[@TheCAL-dx4tr]

ikr

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thom will be brutally punished guys don't worry! 😂 Thanks for watching guys! Liam

[@wildghoul7485]

Who do you guys think would be a good match for Cregan Stark? I'd like to see him in one of these videos but I ain't sure who'd be a good rival.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thom has a rule. If I'm using a character there dam well better be a good amount of footage and art of them 😂 honestly I'm not sure. Cregan is supposedly up in that top tier with Daemon and Cole so without anything else to go on, I'd definitely say he needs a high caliber opponent like Jaime, Sandor or Garlan Tyrell. Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@wildghoul7485]

@TheFandomeClips as if I needed more reason to dislike HBO for the lack of Cregan in the show. Thanks for the answer.

[@hclw3589]

Barristan vs sandoq the shadow is an interesting VS to think about. I’d give it to barristan (the number one in the verse if not for author statements.) But I would to see your thoughts on this possible duel

[@clintwilson4139]

One match up i would love to see is victarion greyjoy vs brieanne. I dont know who will win but i know it would be a crazy fight

[@TheFandomeClips]

That's probably a pretty good match up for Brienne! Vic is still a big guy and a savage warrior but not so big Brienne wouldn't be able to manage him. I'm keen to see what that black lava hand if his can do, as that might be a game changer! Thanks for watching Clint! Liam

[@Domanese]

Ah, if it isn't my favorite GoT youtubers. I wasn't expecting a new video before the annual mass Turkey sacrifice, but it is always welcomed. Jamie taking this win because of his ability to taunt feels very in line with Game of Thrones. Never underestimate the potency that Vicious Mockery can do to a person. The internet and online gaming prove that in spades.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Oh don't we know it matey 😂 one only has to take a look at the comments when they catch me or Thom having a bad day to know the impact of getting under someone's skin 😂 Thanks for watching as always buddy! Liam

[@LongfusedbombasticBarbarian]

Yeah this one is so close and to be honest with you I think as Daemon got older he kept getting smarter and his physical abilities didn't deteriorate that much so I could totally see this going Jamie's way

[@TheFandomeClips]

We'll definitely do old Daemon against someone when we get season 3 of HOTD! I agree with you he might actually be better in his older age! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@jameshedrick4490]

I would like to submit this battle for the VS series! Robert Baratheon the Demon of the Trident vs the Greatjon Umber both in their prime and with signature weapons.

[@TheFandomeClips]

That's a very spicy match up James, Reach Vs Power between two well trained warriors! Added to the list! Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam

[@Rudraksh.Pratap]

I don't think Daemon will get provoked knowing The opponent he's fighting. Remember he always did it when he knew he can be against them . When they r weaker than him . He's cunning. He's confident but not overconfident. He's gonna win it with really high difficulty.

[@josephmallett1051]

I think it’s time for a deep dive into Aragorn vs Arthur Dayne. (I know the question was Aragorn or Jamie but I think Jamie needs a break)

[@josephmallett1051]

Or a young barristan

[@Mikeydavey]

Pleas could you do the hound vs bronn good ser 🤔

[@TheFandomeClips]

I can add it to the list old Spice! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@Rebel_Lord_Taron]

Hell yeah!! Let's Go!!!!!!!!

[@sedriss9665]

Now i wonder what it would look with Old Daemon VS Jaime

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think Old Daemon might fare a little better, I think by the time he fights Aemond he's got a bit more chill and is a bit more at peace. When we've had the Godseye we might revisit this! Thanks for watching Sedriss! Liam

[@siriusb22]

One thing you could've mentioned in personality flaws is that Jamie was prone to awe. Jamie standing across from one of history's greatest swordsmen is going to effect him. Daemon doesn't give a shit who he has to kill. Jamie is prime Ali. Quick slick and Deadly. Daemon is prime Tyson. As Skillful but a fucking relentless hellbeast. The man is a SAVAGE. That is why I'd give it to Daemon. I pers

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think that's why the odds are so close for ethier, I don't even think Jaime winding Daemon up is a surefire tactic as it has the potential to just piss Daemon off into a frenzy that Jaime might not be ready for. Thanks for watching mate! Liam

[@siriusb22]

@@TheFandomeClips oh tis way too close because this is the first of these videos where you're arguments haven't swayed me. And the only part I differ here is who the 6 out of ten goes to. Thank ye both for creating, Dónal.

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

yeah nah daemon was good but he was never ranked as the best of his era COLE WAS, daemon was just a white bull of his era sure hes good but no one gonna sing his praises as the best now if was blackfyre now then I can say hell yeah

[@metalhead6662]

Is there even enough characters for a top 10 Warriors from HotD? Daemon, Criston are the only sure fire names on that list that I can recall.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Aye there is, we do need season 3 possibly season 4 to get some footage for them though. Cregan Stark is also an absolute monster of a warrior. Thanks for watching as always metal head! Liam

[@ucnguyenanh9414]

I doubt Daemon was the best fighter in his era. Clearly Dalton Greyjoy and Criston Cole were better than him. A guy who been taking lives since he was ten and the guy who confident enough to suggest a 3v1 duel would be something to beware of.

[@jameshedrick4490]

Ironically Jaime's fight IQ, anger, arrogance, and tactical abilities all improved after he lost his hand. His arrogance came from his outrageous skill. Deprived of that he became a much more intelligent and calm fighter and a better and more honorable man. I always wanted to see Jaime gain his greater humility and cool tactical head without losing his hand. Had this been possible he would have been truly unstoppable in combat or on the battle field. I only wish he could have gained this without losing his hand but then I suppose we would have lost his brilliant character arc.

[@professorsassafras]

Could Lord Denethor, Faramir and Boromir survive the war of the five kings.

[@3esiln]

I mean we know rhe answer for Boromir...

[@TheFandomeClips]

Depends on if Boromir is being played by Shaun Bean or not. It's written into his contracts that his character must be killed off no matter what so in that instance he's a goner lol 😂

[@mrhalloween3592]

Before I watch the video I wanted to make a guess; the books seem to constantly note the greatest swordsman’s of all time were people like Arthur and Jaime is also in that category. I’ve never heard Daemon get compared to the GOATs and I’ve also never seen Jaime even speak about Daemon despite him being apart of a significant point in history. So my assumption is that while Daemon is extremely good, Jaime would win. The way Jaime is talked about makes him seem almost super human, much like the other GOATs of Westeros, and if he didn’t lose his hand he’d have likely just continued to grow in skill.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Pretty spot on guess of what we say about their skill and training in fairness! 😂 Thanks for watching matey! Liam

[@warlordofbritannia]

On first thought, it has to be Jaime, if only because we have more data on him. That chapter when Brienne fights him, if he was that quick after spending months chained up and still wearing shackles, then a Jaime at 100 percent must be nigh superhuman. Jaime has the advantage of directly comparing himself to Barristan and Arthur Dayne, as you point out. Daemon came of age at such a peaceful interval that there were few renowned warriors even alive, and those were largely old men. Even Criston Cole is more of a tourney knight, if only due to lack of opportunity. Personally I see no significant difference in their respective experience levels. That lack of notable opponents for Daemon again brings what would otherwise be an advantage down to parity. In terms of personality, Jaime at least is slightly more circumspect. I don't know if that's an advantage or not however, given Daemon's willingness to be a bit underhanded. The relative restraint might backfire. In the end, what would give the contest to Daemon is Dark Sister and a cunning move or two, since Jaime either matches or surpasses him in every category. This leads to the somewhat ambiguous conclusion that Jaime is the better warrior overall, but Daemon would be better in just the right ways to win...most of the time...probably. Say 65/35 odds in favor of Daemon.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Great analysis warlord. I think that sword is such a massive wildcard. When one opponent is vastly better than the other I can imagine it doesn't make all that big of a difference, but when it's already two top dogs going at it, Is the sword a minor, major or game changing advantage? That's something I'd love to see when I get winds......... In my dreams. Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam

[@Tardycripple]

Deamond the knights of his time where a cut above the ones after the rebellion when Jamie came into his own after Dane’s gone.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I don't know about that, you still had Selmy knocking around, Loras and Garlan are absolute beasts, there's Gregor and Sandor (and Sandor is supposedly to be a wickedly skilled swordsman) I think the bar was still pretty high, I'd always thought it was the kings guard who had declined, not the overall quality of Knights in general. Thanks you for watching! Liam

[@Tardycripple]

@ yea you got me there I was just thinking about the foes he had faced not being at the level he was at. He hasn’t faced selmy he may have Loras or garland in tournament but I think daemon definitely faced bigger foes in his life. And love the videos

[@3esiln]

You know that is more or less what Robert is thinking to about good'ol times [insert Renlys rent]. How much truth there lies in is a different question...with the exception of the kingsguard. The whole bunch was morally and the majority skillwise unfit for the position.

[@Dr_Juju]

Yes, Daemon has a chance but no sane person would bet on him 😅 Jaime is one of the grandest fighters in history while Daemon is carried by his sword 😅

[@TheFandomeClips]

I don't think Daemon is that far behind. The sword definitely is what puts him in with a chance though in my opinion. It helps bridge that gap a little in their skill Thanks for watching! Liam

[@georgeprchal3924]

Do one on who would and wouldn't bear Strongboar Crakehall.

[@TheFandomeClips]

That's Jaimes strong buddy isn't it?

[@georgeprchal3924]

@TheFandomeClips yes. He wants all the smoke with Blackfish or The Hound.

[@Rudraksh.Pratap]

How do u know that kings guards didn't teach the dragon prince

[@rayji6501]

How rude, cutting you off at the end. Thats 15 paddlings.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Haha I think that's Thom trying to cut my ramblings lol Thanks for watching Rayji! Liam

[@mesaigbuku1233]

Daemon's father, Prince Balon was an excellent knight. Given the sword Dark Sister by his father Jahearys due to his superb skill. He slaughtered dozens of myrish pirates to avenge his brother (ignoring the hundreds he burnt on Vaghar)

[@TheFandomeClips]

The lore points to his father being a good warrior, but not something special from my interpretation. Whereas his grandfather was said to have been an extremely talented fighter, just not quite good enough to be on par with the kings guard (and this was back when the kingsguard actually meant you were one of the best fighters in the realm) Thanks for watching! Liam

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

2:24 So Matt Smith wins the contest for sword skill.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Not quite buddy! If you take both show versions I'd say yes from what we're shown, but Book Jaime and Show Jaime are two totally different characters when it comes to fighting ability. Thanks for watching Josh! Liam

[@Smilodon_ex]

In a life or death battle I got daemon he showed way more experience in 2 major battles in his area while Jamie would beat him in tourney but 1 battle he actually fought as the lead he lost to the young wolf 💯

[@TrueYellowDart]

In his prime, Daemon was armed with a spicy noodle monster (who is also the bestest boy) therefore he wins.

[@DKMediaStarWars]

Daemon was good but Jamie was the best⚔️

[@TheFandomeClips]

I always thought it was one of George's cruel masterstrokes of writing that we never truly got to see Jaime in action in the books before he loses his hand. The closest we get is when he takes on Brienne but even Brienne acknowledges that he's running on less than half his fuel tank, and he still nearly takes her down! It leaves us to try and make up the gap in our mind as to what he looks like at full strength which seems to be, he's nigh on unbeatable in a swordfight. Thanks for watching DK! Liam

[@DKMediaStarWars]

@TheFandomeClips That's true we've only seen a few fights from him but maybe he'll get a magical gold hand or something in Winds of Winter/A Dream of Spring if Victatrion has something similar Jamie could get it too.

[@carlandersson2185]

I mean Baelon the Brave also wielded Dark Sister and cut down hundreds of myrmen on Tarth, so why would you consider him a middling swordsman?

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think we may have come across like we're trying to downplay him, that wasn't our intention. What we meant was more that he was good but not remembered as skilled warrior of note, he's not legendary level fighter like you can argue with Barristan and Arthur Dayne. Whereas Daemons Grandfather was supposedly extremely good and touching the top but not quite at it, with only the kingsguard gatekeeping him (and this was back when the kingsguard were the best fighters around) I don't think the amount of people you cut through is a testament of skill, I think it's more important who you cut through. The Mountain has also cut through hundreds of people, but most would agree he's a middling/just decent swordsman. That's just my opinion though, yours is perfectly valid also. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

A pity how they would do jousting didn't make it in, or how they would do with swords while ahorse.

[@TheFandomeClips]

That would drag the video past Thoms sweet spot my friend, and then he would kill me 😂 I do like the idea though! I might try to show horn it in the next one! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@KingSlayer_.]

Kid slayer vs king slayer? We all know who wins🦁🗿🔥

[@TheFandomeClips]

Haha I knew this one would make you happy (I know it's really you behind that keyboard Jaime!) Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@jonadeip9319]

I have an Ibea Arthur Dayne (GoT) vs Túrin Turambar (Lotr)

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think Turin might be a bit too much for the sword of the morning. Is Turin the guy who went toe to toe with a lotr dragon? Seems Dayne is a little out of his depth with that one. Would have to look more into though, we are looking at cross overs in the future! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@jonadeip9319]

@TheFandomeClips Yes

[@winkoman3]

Daemon is very cool and competent in his own way, especially with his dragon, but we also see him lose his very first fight in the series to Cristin Cole. Jaime, on the other hand, is undefeated in the books and the show untill he's captured by the Starks, and even then it's said he killed a dozen men trying to bring him down. He's pretty confident that he could take on The Mountain if he still had his right hand. George R.R. Martin himself has said that he thinks Jaime could defeat Eragorn, who is a mythical savoir of humanity with Elf blood and is annointed by God.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I'd always take what authors say with a pinch of salt as they can have bias just like any of us, double so when it involves characters that don't belong to them. He also said Jaime could defeat Aragorn which is a statement about 99% of people who know both characters would heartedly disagree with. But your not wrong, Jaime is an absolute beast, when he's not dicking around he can beat just about anyone in his own universe. Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@mazdakahmed4057]

Show robb stark vs aemond targaryen

[@kangarooMonkee]

For the record, Daemon wins that other category.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Which one?

[@kangarooMonkee]

@ bloodline buggery.

[@TheFandomeClips]

🤣🤣🤣 that is fair enough my friend, maybe one day we will make a episode that goes into depth with it. Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@ravonsmith]

Damon wins on volume/variety but Jamie wins cause twin has to top niece & cousin

[@kangarooMonkee]

@ I was more thinking how the two actually care about each other… kinda, it’s a less toixc relationship… kinda, it’s a low bar.

[@dmandaman5060]

If you're asking "who is the best warrior?" Then Jaime. GRRM talks about him with the likes of Arthur Dayne and Barriston. Daemon, while talented and ruthless, isn't spoken about in the same light. However, in a fight, Daemon would likely win. He weilds a Valyrian steel sword and is certainly good enough to hang with Jaime. I would side with Daemon. Jaime tries to fight like his role model, Arthur Dayne. Daemon is his own role model. He doesn't fight with honor. He fights to win. That's the difference. I would side with Daemon

[@TheFandomeClips]

I'm not one for taking author statements as gospel if they aren't backed up by something that happens in the story, Authors have a bad habit of changing their mind depending on the day 😂 but I do like your assessment and I do agree in a lot of regards. Jaime has to be careful, like extremely careful. Daemon is a savage beyond savage, he'll do whatever he feels is appropriate to win, honour and fair play be dammed! Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

@@TheFandomeClips going by his showing with Brianne I believe it if this emaciated and chained warrior could push Brianne despite being so injured I believe jaime wins

[@carastone3473]

The cast of GOT was perfection, but...yeah...as for the story, the books are FAR superior!

[@TheFandomeClips]

Definitely. The Lannisters especially could not have been casted better in my option Cara! Ultimately though you can be the best actor in the world, but none of that matters if you don't have material to work with. Thanks for watching as always! Liam

[@x.kasiouris5503]

Jamie is not overconfident when it comes to sword fight he was as a battle commander

[@TheFandomeClips]

I don't know about that. His inner monologue in the books tells us he thinks he can wipe the floor with absolutely anyone, including top tier fighters like the Hound and monsters like Gregor Clegaine. That whole segment is him basically thinking "noone can beat me" If that's not overconfidence, I don't know what is. Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@jaybirdjetwings7516]

I heard that Cregan stark was also powerful and possibly just as good if not better than cristion or daemon

[@TheFandomeClips]

He's definitely up there too! Hoping we'll get to see him in action in season 3! Would be awesome to be able to use a Stark in one of these match ups! Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@mazdakahmed4057]

Strongest targaryen fighters ranked

[@doggfriendly]

In the show it appears Damon was the better in war zone combat and Jaimie better at 1 v 1

[@caraxzes]

I have Jaime over Daemon with a 6:4, I think if Daemon didn’t have Dark Sister it’d be 7:3. I think Daemon is just that guy of his time, while Jaime is that guy of all time. Not to downplay Daemon, easily my second favorite ASOIAF character.

[@TheFandomeClips]

That's the big "what if" of the fight I think buddy. How much of a difference is that sword actually making and is it bridging the gap between Jaime and Daemon or is it helping Daemon suppass it? That's the fun thing to think about for me personally. In my opinion at minimum it bridges the skill gap between them, but it's interesting think what other advantages it might bring. Thanks for watching mate! Liam

[@caraxzes]

@ anytime, big fan. Can you do Strong Belwas vs Drogo in the future?

[@adamcahoon6362]

Hey......guess what I'm about to suggest for the next match up.....

[@TheFandomeClips]

Dew it Adam! 😂

[@adamcahoon6362]

@TheFandomeClips Olenna Tyrell v. Tywin Lannister! Who is the better head of household!?

[@robcahn7663]

Khal Drogo vs Oberyn Martell. I think that Drogo wins unless Oberyn has armour. Drogo is often underrated, and Oberyn a touch overrated. Drogo is just as quick as Oberyn,, probably more experenced and much stronger. Spears are great battle weapons, but not noted duel weapons.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think Oberyn would butcher Drogo. He's one of Oberyns perfect victims (a bit like Robert Baratheon) You can't take a scratch against Oberyn or your dead thanks to his poison. Much like Bobby B Drogo doesn't seem to mind getting wounded and powering through, which is an absolute death sentence against the viper.

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

Actually this match up has got me thinking have we ever seen someone with Valarian Steel lose a fight to someone with a normal sword, i can't think of a case off the top of my head, I mean i can certianly believe it's possible (I mean pretty much any swordsman vs Jeoffrey with Widowswail would be so one-sided its not even funny and Old Man Barriston could certianly do it hes just never had a chance) but have we seen it on screen or on page?

[@Aaron_Guest]

Criston washed Daemon.

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

@@Aaron_Guest That was more more Daemon turning his back to showoff before the battle was done.

[@Aaron_Guest]

@joshthomasmoorenew Criston is leagues above him. The writers even confirmed it. (But you know those writers have a terrible way of showing what they mean)

[@TheFandomeClips]

There are some instances Josh, I remember reading about it for our Dawn video but I'd have to go looking for them. My understanding is those swords give you a massive advantage, especially if you are already skilled, but they don't make you invincible at all

[@donalny]

Daemon also single handedly took Harrenhall

[@TheFandomeClips]

😂 in the show I don't think it can be argued that it was all that impressive of a feat Thanks for watching Don! Liam

[@thejurassicrepublic394]

yay more v-tuber Liam

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thom is slowly but sure working out the kinks bless him 🤣 Thanks for watching buddy! Liam

[@NedTalbert]

FIRST COMMMMENT!!

[@dylanperrone6769]

Best of Westeros vs best of Esos?!

[@TheFandomeClips]

It's on the list! Lannister/Stark and Drogo vids next though or Thom will kill me 😂 thanks for watching matey! Liam

[@konradfischer8629]

Oberyn vs Robert

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think we covered that in our nightmare match up video buddy! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@alexnunn2161]

This is a bit if a silly match up, so i have no expectations of this being picked up, but how about a prime jaime vs Lion’el Johnson from warhammer 30k/40k, but instead of being in his primarch body he’s in a clone body of jaime that is physically identical as the prime jaime he will be fighting making it purely a contest of skill rather than factors like size or strength. How badly does The Lion trounce jaime? Kek

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think that is the premise really mate. It's not a case of who would win, but just how badly does Jaime lose 😂 Crossovers are in our future but I'm not sure about 40k Vs ASOIAF in terms of balance 😂 Thanks for watching Alex we appreciate it! Liam

[@dakotalange2858]

Kinda funny They were almost distant relatives

[@TheFandomeClips]

As is the case with all noblity! Thanks for watching mate! Liam

[@tri3183]

I bet they pick Lannister

[@davidbaker-l6g]

Considering that Daemon was able to beat Christian Cole while drunk and that Cole and Jamie are carbon copies of each other this conclusion is pretty clear.

[@TheFandomeClips]

He didn't technically beat him though did he? His arrogance got the better of him. I do think Daemon has way more of a shot than people give him credit for. Dude is a savage! Thanks for watching David! Liam

[@frower-h2f]

Before the Video: Jaime EASILY wins After the Video: Jaime loses due equipment, if not jaime takes High-Extreme Diff (As long as you aren't saying just shit) (I know they said that jaime would win due personality, but I disagree, because while its bad, it isn't bad enough to make up for a Valerian Steel sword)

[@TheFandomeClips]

But you've got to factor in the skill gap between them being in Jaime's favour. Daemons sword has to bridge that gap before it starts to become an advantage and that's one of the issues with judging this. How much of a skill gap does that sword compensate for? Thanks for watching! Liam

[@frower-h2f]

@@TheFandomeClips But it made a BIG impact on similar skill level (50-50 or 60-40 to nearly 100-nearly 0 I believe) and as you said youreself the skill diffrence, besides if you want to take it by 'milimeters', its pretty close (50-50/60-40 for Jaime), but I believe the 'buff' of Dark sister is bigger than the 'debuff' of his Anger (Daemon), its still fucking close, do not get me wrong here, but I believe, as I said, that Daemon has a slight edge (40-60, if not 55-45) Regards from Germany (excuse my grammar) Fabian

[@hclw3589]

This is not a close fight Jaime wins this easily. But daemon is not some complete bum or anything he’ll put up a respectable level of fight for a character of his skill. Unless something happens there’s no situations where daemon is the one that comes out of this alive.