REWATCH: Spider-Man Homecoming - The Big Thing

[@seanxmott]

This Coy & Winston moment at the end is the best. Also, THANK YOU for saying out loud that Homecoming is a SPIDER-MAN movie. RDJ has the same screen time as Happy.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Of course it is a Spider-Man movie. Silly for people to say otherwise.

[@Jaygar9392]

*Checks Bingo Card Space “Kristian referencing The Sopranos”* 😂

[@TheKristianHarloff]

:)

[@630designs]

LOL

[@Major98]

The Tom Holland Spider-Man movies are insanely fun. Glad you guys started with the Civil War scenes because it totally did set the whole tone/vibe of the character. I also like the Iron Man mentorship. Side-note: I just watched Shang Chi. It was incredible, maybe recency bias but I think it's top 10 MCU films.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

I am going to watch this weekend!

[@Major98]

@@TheKristianHarloff Awesome. look forward to your review

[@djr_drums]

Spidermans setup in Civil War, in retrospect, is one of the best setups for a character ever.

[@doomraven0]

You are not alone. I had zero expectations of Shang Chi and i dragged my feet on watching it. I didn't even care enough to read any reviews. When i sat down and watched it, i was blown away. Easily in my top five MCU movies.

[@mannyromero5477]

Been rewatching all these flicks then heading over here for the rewatch convos. There's a moment in this film that ive never noticed before and it totally captures the magic of the mcu. At the beginning when Tony drops Peter off and he reaches for the car door he says "this isn't a hug. we're not there yet." And the one and only hug he ever gives Peter is when he sees him for the first time in Endgame. Idk how I never noticed it before but man, it really hit hard. Thanks for the rewatch series homes.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you for checking it out

[@bettercallmaul5810]

These rewatch reviews are great. The actor who plays Mac Gargan/Scorpion in this film is Michael Mando, who is one of the main characters on Better Call Saul. He's a great actor, so I could sew him becoming the Scorpion in No Way Home.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you!!

[@Zachfive]

Really fun discussion! I could listen to a three hour deep dive on this. Plus, last minute bonus reveals on Winston and Coy…

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you! Hope you are enjoying our rewatch series!!

[@keylogg]

Thank you gentlemen for these spectacular reviews!!! Love the discussion and insight!!! 🙂

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you for checking it out!

[@ShaneStLaurent]

The scene in the car is one of my favorite scenes in the entire MCU

[@TheKristianHarloff]

It is great.

[@DamianEve]

One of my absolute favorite Peter Parker scenes from this film (although minor), is after the scene with Michael Keaton in the car. Peter slowly walks from the car to the dance and looks at his friends having fun at the dance. He wants to enjoy the dance and be a high schooler with his friends, but deep down, knows he has to be a hero and stop Toomes. I thought Tom Holland perfectly conveyed the struggle going on with Peter in this scene, and it always sticks out to me every rewatch.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

It is a great scene.

[@LukeTG1_TTV]

Great podcast, If they ever bring Magneto into the MCU, I’d love to see Giancarlo Esposito play him. You could tweak his origin. He’d be amazing 🔥🔥

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you, please check us out on podcast form as well!

[@djr_drums]

I like this casting.

[@metallicnole4514]

I think he's become too typecast as a villain. I'd actually like to see him as professor x.

[@DBuckyBoy]

1:02:24 LOVE the moment here where the penny drops for Winston! lol

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hilarious

[@ThatGuyKeondre]

Loving this trio for the big thing, I don't mind rotating guests but the chemistry is so great I wouldn't hate Winston and Coy being regulars

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you! Def talking about it!

[@noeau4469]

The intro to the “Manscaped” promo was amazing, I couldn’t stop laughing. My wife asked me what I want for Christmas, I played her this promo.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

LOVE THAT!

[@thedefinitionisthis]

On the movie scores, I actually think Hans Zimmer's theme for Amazing Spider-Man 2 is extremely underrated. He had a great Spidey theme there. That being said, I totally get the attachment to Elfman's. Giacchino's score for Spidey in the MCU is definitely great in its own right. It's very "Spider-Man", and yet it has this wide-eyed feel to it, where you can hear the innocence of him still being a kid, but later shifting into a more traditional grand feel, as he is the superhero we all know him to be. And dammit, i love hearing an orchestral version of the 60's theme over the "Marvel Studios" logo.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

I do love that also

[@danedvardsen4082]

@@TheKristianHarloff I dont know i think the main spiderman theme in mcu spidey it so underwhelming and kind of boring.

[@emilnikolov_96]

My absolute favourite Spidey film . That scene with Keaton in the car is incredible.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

It really is!

[@Dohsoda]

What I really like about these two MCU solo Spider-Man films is that they really feel, at the heart of them, 1980's teen / John Hughes films. The actors are really giving it their all and the comedic timing is great. Michael Keaton was fantastic in this movie. I hope to see him in more Spider-Man movies. Can't wait to see how these characters develop and where their character arch's might end in "No Way Home".

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Oh 100 percent on the Hughes angle.

[@BenRnrA]

Coy and Winston at the end in priceless lol. This is my fav Spiderman movie. Keaton is for me the hands down the best Spiderman villain in any Spidey movie. Tom is My Spiderman and I cant wait to see No Way Home

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Me too!

[@ZachBobBob]

I'm from the UK and we're pretty reserved and quiet in the cinema usually but like Winston I'll never forget the loud audible gasps from the audience when Vulture opened that door on Peter....such a great movie man Spot on with that Karen critique too hahah

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Was a big moment!!

[@dereks860]

I don’t typically comment on KZbin videos, but man I’m loving these rewatch videos. So fun to go back & explore & dissect.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Please make it a regular thing! Would love to keep the discussions going with you!

[@kylevesa2810]

Great episode, glad you all enjoyed the more high school parts of this movie, all the little random bits with the kids. Just feels very different from the "kids" in the other spider-man movies. I grew up with Spider-man not being a part of the Avengers but they capture some much of the best parts of spider-man and I feel it makes sense for the universe its in. I got lots of the other Spider-man in many forms already. I have seen this movie so many times but the Vulture reveal with Peter going to the dance always gets me, even though I know its coming I just love watching the scenes play out.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you Kyle, appreciate you checking us out and appreciate your thoughts on the movie as well!!

[@crashingcoyote]

this is going to make my long drive tomorrow morning 100x better

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hope you enjoy it! Def check it out on podcast form!

[@crashingcoyote]

@@TheKristianHarloff love the new image. Plus im from Jersey and have to drive to NY for work so I definitely will.

[@HIGHTS]

I see Coy, I click

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Nice! Well hopefully you stay, subscribe and check out the other shows on the channel!

[@HIGHTS]

@@TheKristianHarloff Got you man! Just watched The Eternals review!

[@nikmuellerprod]

Still my favorite thing on this channel. There is just something interesting and enjoyable about watching you guys talk about older movies doing a rewatch. I think some random rewatches would be awesome as well. Like some movies you guys haven't watched in forever like Con Air, Rambo, Arnold movies etc for example. Just some old guilty pleasure or well loved/hated movies. Imma stop rambling now.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Glad you enjoy it! We are talking more about stuff like this!!

[@nikmuellerprod]

@@TheKristianHarloff can't wait! Thanks for the reply. The fact that you take your time to reply to everyone is awesome.

[@Joakim-Buht-Focker]

I know this Spiderman recap is soon coming to an end, but this crew is one of my favourites on the big thing. Would love to see you guys on other recaps after this ends or just on a normal epi. What a fucking awesome show! Thanks guys!

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Yes the three of us will be doing Batman movies in prep for The Batman. Coy and I will be joined by Kate Mulligan to do The Matrix soon.

[@gregorylieber8362]

Wow, Winston and Coy: together again! Magical that happened on camera lol

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hilarious

[@TheSwaggyBlerd]

My brain damn near imploded 😂

[@caigecrampshee3709]

My favorite scene in this film is when Keaton is trying to figure out who a Parker is in the car. Keaton was TERRYFING in this role! The tenseness of the scene was so well done. Keaton was a fabulous villain

[@TheKristianHarloff]

He really was!

[@krislyons2793]

Jesus, Coy is the fastest talker I have ever seen ...

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Ha he gets in what he needs to say!

[@QuiGeorgeJim]

TBT- Loved the Wake UP Song! Kristian (LMFAO) so true! Great Rewatch/Review of Spider-Man Homecoming!

[@TheKristianHarloff]

haha thank you!

[@MindofMike35]

Coy and Winston coming to the realization that they knew each other before they knew each other is the most meta shit I've ever seen in my life. And how appropriate is it that it's during a Spider-Man rewatch/discussion? 🤣🤣🤣 👏 👏 👏

[@TheKristianHarloff]

MULTI VERSE!

[@TheSwaggyBlerd]

Hey Pedro! 👀

[@mikemudra5489]

this is my all time favorite MCU movie and my favorite Spider-Man movie ever I saw this movie opening day tom Holland is my favorite Spider-Man he plays the character perfectly when the main titles started I had a couple of tears because they played the Spider-Man theme from the 60’s I love this movie. This movie felt like what Spider-Man was supposed to be and they did an amazing job with bringing the true character from the comics to life, vulture is my 4th favorite villain of Spider-Man. I loved that they didn’t did his origin again they touched a little bit of it and that was ok. This movie is fantastic I saw this movie 4 times and every time I watch it I smile because marvel had Spider-Man back and Sony didn’t get involved with any of this movie which was awesome because it seems to me that Sony can’t make a good Spider-Man movie they failed 5 times. The Stan Lee cameo was one of my favorite cameos from Stan Lee. Can’t wait to watch and hear your guy’s thoughts on this movie I also forgot to mention that this is my favorite suit it’s comic book accurate

[@TheKristianHarloff]

It is a really fun discussion!

[@mikemudra5489]

@@TheKristianHarloff yes it is I love watching these videos and your reactions keep up the good work you are literally my favorite KZbin channels ever

[@josephashley4122]

Im enjoying these 3 guys talking about movies. This is good. The moment Winston and Coy found out they worked together 1:02:20

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you!

[@JamalBernardPulliam]

I love these Spider-Man movie discussions. You guys are awesome 🙂

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you Jamal, try us out on podcast form if possible!

[@tashrif46]

A good movie. Interesting to see the high school aspect of Spiderman. But what really bogged it down was the earning the right to be Spiderman. Tom Holland does well but he has been handed his suit and his tech by Tony Stark. And the moments where he had to use his wits, those were the best moments. I think had the shown the relatability side more, this would have been one of the best MCU movies Because when he is with the Avengers, we already see the Spiderman in full force. I wished they showed more of Peter's struggles in his standalone movies. And those struggles is what made Spiderman really different and relatable.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hey fair point

[@ZIPPOKLG]

Great show as always, can't wait for the one this week. Far from home, the new Freshman year precuel animated series and second No way home trailer. A Lot to talk about.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Today's ep is a good one!

[@christianrapper]

Did it seem like Peter forgot how to be spiderman? He was basically unbelievable in the airport scene in civil war. In Homecoming he was mostly bumbling. Peter basically caused a lot of the damage that he had to save people from. He was a big cause of damage on the boat. It was his fault that the elevator almost fell in the Washington monument.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

You aren't wrong here.

[@Rellj16]

Love listening to you guys talk about Spidey. Great conversations! Winston's camera is still blurry tho... I'm sure it's been brought up before but, it's been blurry for a while now so I figured, let me say something just incase it hasn't been brought to your attention. I'm usually at least 3 or 4 episodes behind so I never mentioned it but, I am now. Hopefully the focus for that camera can be adjusted soon.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

That camera is better now

[@Rellj16]

@@TheKristianHarloff OK awesome! Again I'm behind so, don't mind me. Loving everything you're putting out!

[@hito157]

Comedy in movies is an essential story telling tool. You need to give your audience a chance to breath after tension. I learned that from Jackie Chan. Great rewatch fellas.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you and thanks for joining us!

[@samthomas3383]

I get Mad now when There isnt at least one Braveheart reference in these reviews now. So used to it when I listen and watch now haha

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hahaha

[@fawwazf]

Loving this new channel Kristian and the content, keep it up bro :)

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you! lots coming up!

[@gcolbyp]

Also Angourie Rice aka Betty Brant was also Ryan Gosling’s daughter in The Nice Guys which came out the year before this.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Yes she was!

[@katevand]

while Spiderman 3 is my favourite just because of the good memories, Tom is the best Peter/Spiderman and Sony made a great call to let Marvel have him around. when he goes back to Sony movies so curious to see the next set of movies.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

The ending of this movie will cause some talk I am sure!

[@Kenji-fm8kf]

Good point regarding potential Tony stark in no way home. There’s been rumors of Multiverse Tony in the Multiverse of Madness film. Really there’s rumors of multiple avengers variants but we’ll see

[@TheKristianHarloff]

I want to see it!

[@philharrison5210]

That manscape moment!

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Get Manscaped! It will change your life!

[@LAnimeMaster]

Winston and Coy realizing they worked together before Schmoedown. XD

[@TheKristianHarloff]

What a moment!

[@jacobfleck9116]

This is by far my favorite LIVE ACTION Spider-Man film. There are people out there who hate the MCU Spider-Man films and I just don’t get it. The scene where he lifts the rubble off of himself is the most inspiring scene in a superhero movie

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Love that part!

[@benstrobl5539]

I love the Rewatch Series you are doing. Hope it continues!

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you

[@craigwilliamson8167]

Love how the code is Big Thing for a ball shaver…. Ooops meant this for the live chat!! Lol

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hahaha

[@colmgriffin889]

Hey Kristian, I like what you are doing over here. Keep up the great work. You and the lads.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hey, thanks! Adding a lot of new stuff for you all!

[@samurairaven72]

the end credit scene with Cap is the best end credit scene in the entire MCU

[@TheKristianHarloff]

It is pretty funny.

[@jermainehaslam5634]

The amazing spiderman 2 had a great musical score but Danny Elfman's score is still the most epic out of all the spiderman films!

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Agree on Elfman!

[@jackdunn486]

Never, not ONCE have I seen the Manscaped segway coming and it makes me cry with laughter every time 😂😂 “You usin’ a machete to lop off ur sausage?” I think I coughed up a lung.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hahaha

[@MindofMike35]

Stellar intro 🤣

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Ha thanks!

[@TheMasonAguilar]

i feel like everyone forgets he had spider sense in civil war. when (idk who don’t remember) throws some shit at him he goes “oh god” and then dodges it

[@TheKristianHarloff]

This is true.

[@Keizi]

Coy: "I would love a Spider-Man show but that will never happen" *Disney Announces 'Spider-Man: Freshman Year', an animation about MCU Spider-Man set before homecoming following Peter Parker on his way to becoming Spider-Man!

[@ericstorm6582]

Tom to Marvel after seeing that: Guys, come on, let's just make it live action, all I need to do is slim down a lot

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Didn't realize this was canon to Homecoming.

[@Keizi]

@@TheKristianHarloff indeed it is! 😏

[@inghell]

Yo Kristian if you liked the song that introduced Peter in Civil War, the band is Alt-J, they're pretty good! The song is called 'Left Hand Free'.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

I got it! Thank you!

[@timmoth444]

EVERYONE! Comment like and repeat see you next time! Also subscribe on the podcast feeds!

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you

[@jayrastab]

In an alternate universe this is a 4 person panel with Harloff, Winston, Coy and SCHNEPP. I gotta find some of his old clips 😭

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Man, would have LOVED that

[@loveoffilm4327]

That ending was hilarious

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Right?!

[@blackkcinamacritic]

I love this movie great reaction

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you!

[@codyyoung65]

Kristian and all, I highly recommend two Shudder exclusives: Mandy and PG: PsychoGoreman. Mandy is Nic Cage at his best!

[@TheKristianHarloff]

I hear Mandy is GREAT!

[@codyyoung65]

@@TheKristianHarloff it’s fantastic! I made my buddy who hates Nic Cage watch it and he loved it.

[@josearrocha3377]

Thank you for these excellent episodes! Tom Holland is an awesome Spider-Man and Homecoming is perfection. Holland hate is unwarranted and the Iron Man Jr comments are goofy. But that’s just me. I’m hoping you review Rocky Vs Drago.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you! Glad you are enjoying the content!

[@parsman9914]

Love the movie and love the review. You guys rock.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Appreciate you checking this out and being part of the new channel!

[@VideoClubRandom]

1:02:25 This is when you know you're getting old... 😅😂

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Haha yup

[@antnuge90]

Loving the movie breakdowns for both Spidey and Star Wars. Did I miss an announcement about another channel name change?

[@TheKristianHarloff]

No announcement. Content is the same. It is just SEN presents my channel now.

[@ChrisTheAspergerGuy]

I think Homecoming is probably my favorite Spider-Man movie so far. One of the things I liked about it (in addition to pretty much everything else you guys talked about) is that it's not an origin story. Don't get me wrong, I love origin stories, but after the Tobey and Andrew franchises where we saw it happen, it would've been repetitive and unnecessary. We already know how he gets his powers. By the way, that's crazy that Winston and Coy didn't remember they used to work together until now lol.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Amazing moment!

[@vincentjetton4157]

Get off Karen, Harloff! We all need her!💣💥🔥😂🤣😂

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Haha

[@thedefinitionisthis]

Probably my favorite Live-Action Spidey film. I always have a wicked time watching it. Unlike a lot of fans, I honestly don't mind the lack of Uncle Ben. It's funny how fans complain about seeing Thomas and Martha Wayne die over and over again. And yet, they also complain about no reference to Uncle Ben (outside of subtle nods) in these movies despite his death playing hard in the previous two incarnations. Look at every issue and episode of any given Spidey cartoon or comic; Uncle Ben doesn't play into EVERY single storyline. I'm cool with the hints of Uncle Ben here and there. We know Spidey's origin; it doesn't need to hang over him in EVERY appearance. This movie really felt refreshing, seeing Peter much younger, and seeing how he goes about his daily life as a high-schooler. Feels true to real life, and yet it brings the fun & excitement I expect from Spider-Man himself. Do I miss the drama of a Harry Osborn? Yes. But at the same time, I can't helped be charmed by Pete's friendship with Ned. It too feels so true to life (at least MY high school experiences). And yes, the scene under the rubble, paying homage to the OG Ditko/Lee comics gets me everytime, even if the context is changed. Michael Keaton as Vulture is a fantastic villain, and someone I still hope makes a return in the MCU. Such a great installment of the MCU AND a Spider-Man movie in its own right. I think my only complaint is the "reveal" at the end that Zendaya is MJ. Felt very unnecessary. Either have her actually be Mary Jane (as a new, unique take on the character), or just embrace her being a new character completely. Despite that, her presence in the movie was very charming to me as well. But to each their own! Looking forward to listening/watching y'all discussion! Love these rewatches!

[@TheKristianHarloff]

So happy to hear that people love the rewatch series! Thank you!!

[@thedefinitionisthis]

​@@TheKristianHarloff Not really related, but are you gonna do a reaction (or review discussion) of the Stallone Cut of "Rocky IV". I think it drops on streaming today!

[@mylessmith8059]

Thomas and Martha Wayne are plot devices and barely characters that are fixations of Bruce Wayne’s Uncle Ben is a character that is essential to the emotional core of Peter Parker’s story Plot vs Story

[@thedefinitionisthis]

@@mylessmith8059 I'm not denying that's Uncle Ben's importance. But does that have to tie into EVERY mission Spider-Man goes on? EVERY story? No, it doesn't. He doesn't give the "With great power..." speech every time. It's like... we know his origin. We know his motivation. My point is we don't need to be reminded of it all the time in every movie. We get these hints here and there, and that's good enough, honestly. Let's get on with the story. If it doesn't tie into the plot, why do we need a reference to it? Plot Vs. Story.

[@josephashley4122]

I think Tom Holland was (Michael J Fox) Marty McFly as Spider-Man and it turned out great to me

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Yeah

[@trevorthornley8835]

"Oh Hai kristian. What's new wif you?"

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Oh Hai Trevor! Hope you are enjoying the new channel my friend!

[@christianrapper]

Only Spiderman 2 and 3 were on a “friendly neighborhood spiderman”’ scale. The rest of them were pretty high stakes. In amazing spiderman 1 the lizard literally turned a whole city into lizards. In ASM 2 Electro went crazy and was taking out Times Square. In Spiderman 2 Dock Ock had to sacrifice himself before a growing sun destroyed the world. Well, Homecoming had pretty low stakes comparatively. Spiderman just had to save people from his own screw ups mostly.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

This has been a fun rewatch to be able to have all these conversations with all of you!

[@andrewcook3983]

Kevin Feige did say in at least one interview that Spider-Man was the only hero with the power to travel between universes... Whether that was in jest, might have been after Into The Multiverse.... not sure, but I'm pretty sure he said it.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Interesting, I am sure we will see a lot more reason on Tues!

[@gcolbyp]

Even though on these rewatches Tobey Maguire is still my favorite Spidey, I still love Tom Holland in this role and I don’t think his interpretation of the character deserves the hate it gets from some Spider-Man and Raimi fans. I see this trilogy as like a coming of age story for Peter to become the Spider-Man we all know and Holland is the best of both world as Peter and Spider-Man. He’s awkward and shy without being cringey as Peter Parker and he’s witty and charming without coming off as annoying as Spider-Man. Plus I never got the criticism that he doesn’t go through any consequences or have relatable problems. And I’m not just talking about the suit being taken away, he literally gave up the biggest moment of his life with the girl he has a crush on to stop her father, after the final battle Vulture got arrested, causing Liz to move away and ruining his chances with her.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you for checking out our series!

[@WhatISayPodcast]

Great rewatch guys. I’m gonna be honest, I don’t like these new spider man movies. I don’t like how they made him 15 just so he can his ass kicked by everybody he fights. I don’t like how every villain so far is related to Tony. Tom Holland is great but just movies don’t feel like spider man movies. The web swinging, uncle Ben, New York, his own villains, the relatability to Peter, really are missed in these movies. Ik we’ll get to far from home but spider man fighting robots…like what is this?

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hey fair, I feel he is the most Peter/Spidey of all but the beauty of the opinions!

[@dantheman3780]

Ever since reading that issue, "The Final Chapter", I wanted to see that trapped under the rubble sequence in a movie. I lost my shit when I saw it in this movie.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

It worked well!

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Yeah should have been more organized for sure.

[@samdean8182]

I really hope Christian Bale gets as good of a villain role in Thor Love & Thunder as Michael Keaton did in this movie

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Yeah would be great to see Bale as a villain.

[@tashrif46]

17:14 I thought Henry Jackman's Captain America The Winter Soldier was excellent. I actually prefer to the Alan Silvestri score. Especially when he escapes from the Shield Compound and when he dons the classic Cap suit from the museum.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Henry Jackman is a great composer.

[@neilvarma]

Still a great film

[@TheKristianHarloff]

YUP

[@tomdevinney7280]

Anytime soon we can be expecting a Rocky 4 directors cut review?

[@TheKristianHarloff]

I need to see it first!

[@Anthonycheesman33]

Personally this is my favorite spiderman movie but I get the hate for it it does feel like spiderman 1/iron man 4 at times but that's the price of having a shared universe .

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hey that is fair.

[@Kenji-fm8kf]

I definitely prefer this movie over Far from home. Probably my 3rd favorite Spider-Man film

[@TheKristianHarloff]

It is a good one!!

[@LORDS.And.Hammers]

🔥🔥🔥

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you

[@LORDS.And.Hammers]

@@TheKristianHarloff the IPIC moment. ⚡️⚡️

[@meltingkrayons5830]

In terms of enjoyment, I'd probably have to rank as follows: Spider-Man Spider-Man 2 Spider-Man 3 (yeah I know lol) Amazing Spider-Man 2 (yeah I know lol) Homecoming Into the Spider-Verse Far From Home Amazing Spider-Man

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Good list.

[@boi905]

Oh boy how wrong is Coy about Spidey leaving the MCU

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Haha

[@talkingshhhnetwork5100]

Can anybody answer if the guy who asked Spiderman to do a backflip was also the same guy who recorded the fight scene on the bus in Shang-Chi? I swore they looked liked the same exact actor.

[@CoyJandreau]

Tis!

[@talkingshhhnetwork5100]

@@CoyJandreau Thank you for the clarification. I'm calling it now as my witness. We are getting a short story episode on that man's journey lol.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Is it really? HAha

[@daz4363]

Love you guys all love this movie, it is my fav Spidey film, I say 9/10 for me, never got the complaining about Iron Man honestly, I think most people doing that either are just jumping on a hate train, or are like I think RMB who iirc had major issues with this movie because this peter is not like the comics Peter, because Peter/Spidey in the comics is a peer to the other heroes not a junior member, which always made me laugh because it's a different canon who gives a damn? Honestly Peter being a fan of the Avengers makes sense in the context of the story here, as does him trying to impress Stark in the movie, people alway seemed to think it's because he's star struck or something, I always saw it as Peter trying to impress a scout, like a high school athlete trying to impress look outs for the college athletics programmes, which ties into the sort of parable I see in this movie, being a superhero is like being a teenager, Peter is the friendly neighbourhood Spidey, he's a teenager, all he wants is to grow up and be treated like an Avenger/Adult, the if you are nothing without the suit it means you don't deserve it, is like telling a kid if you aren't grown up enough to handle the consequences of your actions you are not grown up enough to be making those choices, and it ends with Peter being given the choice rush through life become and Avenger and leave the rest behind or choose to stay as he is for as long as he can, as in choose to give up childish things and take on the burden of responsibility of an adult, or enjoy being a kid for as long as you can, and Spidey unlike most of us who would probably charge into the unknown without thinking, he chooses to enjoy what he has for as long as he can, and I love that. Which is also why I do not see the same issues with the ramping up in the Avengers movies or taking him out of Brooklyn in Far From Home, because in that Peter is still embracing the same path, except differently, but that's for Far From Home talk not Homecoming talk, so I will say again I love this movie, I love Holland as Peter, I love Vulture, Aunt May, hell I love Flash because it's different to what we got before and I like that, and again I love this review, it's so much fun, the energy and joy you guys bring to all of this is great, I hope you guys have a long list of things you want to go through and rewatch together because the dynamic of the three of you is so much fun, even do fresh watches, maybe like THE THING!!?? I mean you are going to have to watch that movie eventually Kristian, may as well drag Winston kicking and screaming into watching it with you, now that would also be a fun watch along to see tbh. Anyway great stuff Kristian can't wait to see more.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Thank you so much! I love when you guys get so involved in the conversation! Thank you for taking the time to write how much you dig this. And I will watch the Thing!

[@stevedchaves420]

So for the matrix are you doing it with Coy, shouldn’t you do it with Roxy or Kate because they never saw it ?

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Me, Coy and Kate

[@phattony2000]

Coy knows these aren't timed Movie Fights right?

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Haha

[@rja8907]

maybe a tony appears that in his universe Peter snapped his fingers instead of tony

[@TheKristianHarloff]

I want to see Tony return for at least a scene.

[@tornadochaser2457]

This Flash fundamentally doesn't work as a bully, as the environment is too healthy for bullying to occur, and his nastiness towards Peter is too overt and not secret enough to not be called out. In every other interpretation, Flash has always been somewhat distinctly popular and allowed to thrive in his bullying due to a fairly immature, vulgar intimidated environment, as well as an intimidated one, and Peter has either been a loner, unpopular, or both. Here, Flash is alone in his bullying, and Peter is in a decent environment, surrounded by a few people who especially know him and care about him. Sure, Peter and Ned are pushovers, but nobody else is. The obliviousness of the characters in his world regarding Flash as a bully is ridiculous, and Flash would be put in his place eventually, after only a small time of selfish indifference is allotted before a truly nasty agenda is revealed. Writing a situation to appear normal, and all actors engaging in it has a powerful effect, and it's enough to distract from the reality of the situation to not hugely harm these films' quality, but it certainly doesn't make the reality disappear and I consider this a big flaw.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

This is why I enjoy the "variant" that has been introduced.

[@alexlazzerly3677]

Even if they're Gen Z, jocks still very much exist in high school today and they're still the popular ones. I don't love Flash in these movies.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Yeah like Tony but Flash didn't work for me like in comics.

[@Dp_is_Op]

Do you know what time they're supposed to show star wars trailers ?

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Apparently not today, haha

[@Dp_is_Op]

@@TheKristianHarloff yup,very disappointing

[@philrm99]

Another"marvelous" discussion. Love the MCU Spiderman.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

thank you!

[@aaronroibeard]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Spider-Man meme

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Haha

[@ericsietsema2044]

My biggest problem with this movie and it is super nit picky, how do two high school students, hack something TONY STARK built ( even though it wasn't built in a cave)

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Not a nitpick, great question!

[@xronxronx]

I loved the movie but, i hated that scene in the car. Peter is so fast and so strong that he could've taken that gun from him, crushed it and the tell him to STFU. Peter is so under powered and intimidated in the MCU. The suit is just a suit, Peter doesn't need the suit because all his powers are within him. He couldve easily taken out Vulture in the car.

[@xronxronx]

As soon as Peter got his powers, he had it at full strength. The only thing he learned over time was technique, execution, and confidence. Crushing The Vulture in that car scene would've been child's play for him. Vulture isn't like Sandman, Lizard, Venom, or even Rhino. The Vulture is a regular weak powered villain without his suit.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

He is 15 years old.

[@djr_drums]

I miss Tony...........which, for me, means he needs to stay gone.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

A quick heartbreaking scene wouldn't be that bad, would it?

[@doomraven0]

Hmmm, Homecoming is a rough movie for me. First time i saw it-easy A+ experience but i like it less and less with each rewatch. The only part of the film i really enjoy every time is Keaton. He is sensational as always. The stakes of the movie are just so low and i understand what they are going for but it just feels like they took Vulture seriously but not Peter. Even the early comics felt more foreboding than what we see here and the constant stream of jokes in this just wears on me with repeated viewings. I do love Holland in the role, he is a great actor, but this is just not the Spider-man i see in my head when i read the comics. Personally, i don't mind the involvement of Iron Man. RDJ and Holland have a beautiful chemistry and the mentor relationship is important at this point in Spidey's world but i absolutely despise the Spidey suit in all the MCU films. It takes away an enormous part of Peter's character and was one of the few awful choices in the MCU as a whole. And Zendaya? Great actress but just an awful personality for a love interest. Apathy is not attractive. Ever.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

That's why I like where she ultimately goes.

[@doomraven0]

@@TheKristianHarloff 100% agree. NWH was such a great payoff for MJ and Peter. I really enjoyed her character in the end.

[@christianrapper]

Miles is not bisexual. They were talking about making him bisexual but didn’t.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

That is what I heard as well. That they were talking about it but didn't.

[@HARLEMHEFNER]

I didn't like Spiderman: homecoming he's basically Ironman Jr , these movies revolve around Tony starks Spiderman had Drones flying out his chest. Talking AI. The Iron Spiderman suit in every movie now. I loved Tom Holland as Spiderman in civil War then I had to realize. It's the direction I didn't like Jon watts vision for Spiderman. The Russo Brothers understood the character

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Def on different pages on this one here Harlem but thank you for sharing your perspective. I see where you are coming from, disagree but def see the points!

[@tube483]

Lol hope alt universe RDJ doesn’t show up, makes me think Holland’s uncle Ben was a piece of shit😆

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Why, because he cares more about Tony?

[@tube483]

@@TheKristianHarloff nah not that, cuz I feel like almost everything he learned, he learned from Tony………….wow, as I was writing this I realized No Way Home is Peters Ultron, his big fuck up, no Ben speech about power/responsibility, goes to Strange cuz it would be convenient, fuck consequences, nvm he does take after Tony lol, suit cheat codes, abuse of power(s). RDJ is the uncle Ben