Game of Thrones/ASOIAF Theories | The Old Powers Are Waking | The Three-Eyed Crow

[@kathleenschwab4645]

In Storm of Swords Littlefinger offers Sansa a pomagranite, the fruit that Hades used to trap Persephone in the underworld for half of every year. She turned it down, and ate a pear instead. When Arya was warging Nymeria and the pack was eating dead people, Arya/Nymeria wouldn't eat human flesh, and went after a crow instead. But Bran! You drank the Kool-Aid! No! No!

[@allyriastark3508]

Kathleen Schwab these are good points I didn't catch them before!

[@210SAi]

Bran is young and highly impressionable

[@andreaspapapap7737]

@@210SAi so is arya

[@made-line7627]

@@andreaspapapap7737 Biiiiit of a different situation. Arya knew it was a dead human. If the Jojen-paste theory is true, Bran *didn't* know. And f*ck, he's at the end of the bloody world, almost in the Heart of Winter, crippled and living in a cave with an extremely powerful greenseer and surrounded by magical forest elves. What has he got to lose?

[@andreaspapapap7737]

@@made-line7627 well bran ate human Meat while being inside his body so thats even worse if you listen to the people in westeros but I dont think it means anything tbh.

[@mrgaudy1954]

I love how this channel focuses on providing alternatives to theories that are considered factual by the ASoIaF community at this point. You never really hear the Three Eyed Crow discussed much because most people just accept that it's Bloodraven and move on.

[@arkano18cl]

Bran has the perfect storyline to become the ultimate villain in ASOIAF!

[@land1877]

That's what I'm praying for

[@SunDogGod]

Why do you think he came all this way

[@asaenvolk]

"Don't trust the crows, they are lairs all" -Old Nan

[@akashijamoka]

Yesss, I was just thinking about this

[@kathleenschwab4645]

Martin has such a dark mind. And it all sounds so plausible.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you

[@gogozeppeli9267]

He might be possessed himself who knows 😈

[@lordbirdwood250]

The powers of the Old Gods explain how Bloodraven was such an amazing Master of Whispers and Hand of the King.

[@madarauchiha-xx5gp]

I love that most videos are more than 20 mins long. I can just cuddle up in my bed and watch it.

[@That2J]

Very true. Five minute lore/ theory vids tend to lose my interest as soon as I see their runtime

[@julianusvatinius4479]

*"Mass Confusion*" Damm It Jimmy

[@That2J]

It's probably best if we did sexy splits

[@julianusvatinius4479]

But Why?

[@That2J]

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[@aditpandey6422]

you are the guys GRRM was talking about when he said some people have figured the ending and the story right. great videos guys. I was just wondering why Tyrion didnt take on little finger when he knew that little finger played the Starks to take him as hostage.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

He wonders to himself if he can 'touch' littlefinger - if he has the means to protect himself if he does so, and he comes to the conclusion that he doesn't have the means to take on littlefinger at that moment.

[@sophiemoconnell]

The interesting thing about this is that under normal circumstances when a person sleeps the first four hours it is the deepest that they will sleep until they wake. This is because it's the restorative part of the process. After that the body goes inbetween a steadily lighter sleeping state and an awake one, with the last few hours in particular being reserved for dreaming. Although Bran had obviously been in a fall (meaning he was not able to go between sleeping and waking), the fact that he is dreaming at all suggests that the body had done most of the restorative work ready for Bran to wake from his coma. If the crow hadn't turned up at all, Bran very likely would have woken up a short time later anyway. The Crow is indeed a tricksy bird...

[@anaisabel713]

This is so amazing. Bran's storyline finally someone does it the creepy justice it deserves! No one ever pays atention because Bran's chapters are kind of boring, but so so so creepy. I am dying for the next part! you guys rock!

[@TheVeganFinalBoss]

Hear Hear!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you both

[@blablatarantino4718]

Ana Isabel Pire Am I the only one who loved his chapters especially in Dance with Dragons? I felt like they were important

[@anaisabel713]

Blabla Tarantino I actually liked the chapters of bran (I hate the ones with the woman of Tarth though) but everyone always says they are boring because bran's story is so slow but i think they have very important info.

[@blablatarantino4718]

Ana Isabel Pire Exactly!

[@moostyberghein4725]

Aaaah this is why I like to marathon videos I have no patience to wait for the next one. Great vid.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you moos!

[@aniko7125]

I don't think it's the tears that were so hot that they burnt his face, rather where he was was cold that his tears felt hot.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

it says "the heat of his tears burned on his cheeks"...I guess if you were really cold normal temperature tears could feel hot enough to burn, but the way it was phrased seems to point at the tears being hot

[@TriceratopsUnicorn]

"see peoples hearts in their chests" I thought that line was more for a metaphorical heart, than their literal one. Seeing into someones mind or reading their emotions, seeing their loves and fears, motivations and goals, stuff like that.

[@blablatarantino4718]

TriceratopsUnicorn Maybe it wants to appear like a metaphor but is actually exactly meant like that. It happens at least often enough in asoiaf

[@TheVeganFinalBoss]

Exactly, just as here; A harp can be as dangerous as a sword, in the right hands. (tyrion to Sansa) A Storm of Swords - Sansa VI I don't own any castles, and my queen wears furs and amber, not silk and sapphires. I am my own champion, my own fool, and my own harpist. (Mance to Jon) A Storm of Swords - Jon X yet mance plays a lute when jon first meets him, why mention the harp? because he's arthur dayne! and "a harp can be dangerous as a sword, in the right hands" is referring to arthurs skill with a two handed sword. all links in, works on two levels, songs are dangerous heard by the wrong ears, but also it works in reference to Mances prowess with a 2 handed sword double meanings, it would be awfully in-complex if everything had a singular meaning

[@nitegxd9755]

The order of the greenhand never disappoint, always impress it is known🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you so much

[@csuderburg8389]

Always so excited to see a new Order of the Green Hand video! Woo hoo!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you!

[@artprincess3996]

I've always liked Bran's chapters, but never really understood it. Thank you so much for bringing to light things that we haven't noticed before. Great video btw! 👍

[@AzaleaJane]

Y'all make these books feel even more epic and deep than they already are!

[@shaunrogers8811]

Ned Dayne of the young lord of starfall tells Arya that Ned stark and his aunt lady ashara fell in love at harrenhal. He then says Jon's mother is wylla and that he and Jon are milk brothers. The common belif is that a stark dishonored ashara at harrenhall. She last danced with Ned stark who she danced with twice. It's common knowledge lady ashara was pregnant before the end of Robert's rebellion. However they say she commited suicide by jumping into the ocean when Ned returned dawn. They also say she had a still born girl. Now most wetnurses are lactating because they just had a child. So with that in mind allow me to clarify the truth about Jon snow and young Griff. Young Griff Is rhegar and lyannas child at the tower of joy. Septa Lemoore who is with young Griff in essos is ashara Dayne Wylla the wetnurse had a still born daughter which is why she was a wetnurse in the first place. She was at the tower of joy to help with the birth. Sometime Atfer harrenhal Ned got ashara pregnant and promptly married her, just like rob did Ashara gave birth to Jon snow just before the events at the tower of joy Arthur Dayne tells Ned that she had a son when they meet at the tower Ned returns dawn to starfall accompanied by Wylla, her stillborn daughter,and young Griff with his targ features. Ashara shows Jon to Ned, Ned shows her young Griff who is being nursed by Wylla. To keep his promise to lyanna and to hide the marriage between him and Ashara,(he has already married cat by now ) ashara takes young Griff into hiding. Next the news is spread that ashara had a still born girl and they used wyllas still born girl Ashara Dayne fakes her death (they never found her body) heads to essos with young Griff with the help of varys who some how finds out about what happened. Wylla stays with Ned nurses baby Jon back to winterfell (when rob and cat get to winterfell Jon and his wetnurse are already there. And Jon grew up in winterfell so Wylla had to be there for a while as well This all fits the Robert's. Rebellion time line as well with 9 to 11 months from Ned and the fisherman's daughter at sisterton to Ned returning dawn to starfall. Wylla tells Cait about ashara Dayne and Ned sends her back to starfall. This happens 3 years into the marriage cat even remembers it this would also be 2 years before eldric Dayne is born allowing for travel time back to starfall . Meaning it fits the timelines and explains why her name was nver said again in winterfell The half maester with young griff was winter fells maester the bastard son of arch maester walgrave from the patent chapter. Hence the name half maester Thus making Jon Ned's only true born son, able to be the sword of the morning (Which Is in lyannas t Crypt statue), and the rightfull lord of winterfell When Jon joins the watch and Ned goes south there's no stark in winter fell rob and Rickon are snows. This also marks the point when everything went shifty for the starks specificly all the snows. Jon got off easy compared to the rest of his siblings I'm anxious to see someone shoot this down...

[@cc-rz4ts]

Shaun Rogers It looks really good but the honorable ned lying and accepting to marry caitlyn when he is already married ? Hard to believe but i think that the show pretty much spoiled the books on jon parentage.

[@kain1799]

Shaun Rogers and the fact that Caitlyn stark believes ahasra to be Jon's mother which should clue you in that it's wrong. Because Caitlyn is an idiot who jumps to many conclusions just because the basics of the time line match up.

[@gogozeppeli9267]

But this channel already made a video about this 😂 and you have the balls to act as if YOU ARE THE ONE THAT THOUGHT THIS SHIT OUT? 😂 fucking fraud 😂😂

[@made-line7627]

I like it, but a couple of questions: 1) So Cat *knows* that Jon is Ashara's? Or did you mean Wylla just told Cat about Ned and Ashara dancing? 2) Why is Haldon a half-Maester if he was already Winterfell's *full* Maester? And please remind me again, why was Ashara in the Vale with Ned again? I forget. Cheers

[@shaunrogers8811]

In answer to ur question cats father forced bed and John Arryn to marry his daughters or he would not join there side of the rebellion. This is what caused the black fish to decide to leave. Further more yes cat knew or most likely suspected John was Asharas, the wet nurse was from house Dayne and when cat asked ned about Ashara he responded by yelling not to ask him about John

[@samwise001]

Listen all you dudes and dudesses out there, you have to give credit when credit is due, this channel should be the only place to come and truly enjoy the books of "a song of ice and Fire" these guys are singing that song to you!!. We are all so looking forward to the winds of winter BUT what would we have done, where would our thoughts be?? if this channel was not around, i ask you that question. It to me has opened up so much more than i had actually thought of, it's made me see the books in a totally different light and made me explore them in different ways, i concentrated on what GRRM was not saying instead of looking at them from outside the box, The Order of the Green Hand are diffenitly right brain thinkers. Great work guys, even if a couple of things don't pan out, it really won't matter to me because i'm, i'm entertained. Greetings again from N.Ireland the home of westeros lol the red hand (our flag)

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

wow...thank you so much...that is so nice of you to say that we're at a loss for words on how to even respond other than to say thank you and it is very much appreciated

[@infolord79]

Sam Wise Idk. This channel is ok. They seem to be naive enough to believe that GRRM, a hardline atheist, has written a story where gods and profits are real. That is not very insightful.

[@samwise001]

@Karl, so who spoke to varis when they burned his bits, how do the red priests and priestess know so much the future, who really are the children of the forest and how do they do what they do do, where do dragons come from, etc etc, there is something going on, and i also thought it was more of an antiwar set of books, rather than story about the god's, i still feel this could all turn out to have a sci fy end to the story

[@rachelriley377]

Was thinning the same thing. Literally hv had anxiety about not living through getting to read the conclusion to TSoIaF! But you know what, it's ok now. Im good with most of The Greenhand's theories/explanations. Even if none of them pan out, I still feel satisfied with it... you know?

[@BLung-tq2mm]

***COOL FACT*** GRRM originally wrote Tyrion actually meeting with the "Shrouded Lord" of the Rhyonar when he nearly drown in the river during the attack of the stone men in Chroyane. However he changed his mind and removed that part completely before publication. He stated that he did not want the gods to appear at all during the series.

[@williamhermann6635]

3 eyed crow is Leyton Hightower with a glass candle. He gave Euron the same falling dream and Euron became his apprentice. Theres some weird connection between Hightowers and Ironborn that I havent been able to puzzle out yet but I think the original ironborn may have been Hightower bastards. The first Hightower was Uthor and after that theres a number of examples urrigon and other variarions of it which also show up plenty with the Ironborn. Euron's alter ego in Essos is Urrathon Nightwalker. Put it all together and I think Euron's gonna be like some kind of apprentice puppet to Leyton Hightower. Most think hes gonna destroy Oldtown but I think theyre gonna join forces.

[@scottie16976]

That was great. Can't wait for the next one. I always read this chapter as Bran dying and the crow (whoever it is) bringing him back. I hoped we'd get a chapter like this for Jon in the Winds of Winter.I think your going to take us DOWN a whole other path. Cant wait. Looks like its going to be another great series

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you Sir Scottie

[@soraminamichishiro538]

You are both so amazing. This is a brilliant and horrifying video.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you

[@lesliemisaacs]

I am obsessed with your channel. I go to it every day and rewatch this playlist over and over again. I like how you guys break everything down. You helped me finally understand how the H Dany was able to wake the dragons. That had been driving me crazy for awhile. As for Bran, I had never thought of the things you guys have brought up here, but now I'm convinced that Bran is dead and his body has been inhabited by the same being that was inside the body of Brendyn Rivers.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you so much. We still think there’s hope for Bran. As long as he stops allowing the crow to influence him

[@mattythemartian3742]

He’s gonna steal Jon’s body.

[@TheVeganFinalBoss]

Just checking to see if this is the best ASOIAF channel, with the most well thought out theories. It is

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

+liam henderson you know it

[@dratheart]

This is superb work! I'd never thought of any of these things in these ways. You two are amazing! Keep it up! And I just signed up on your Patreon, and I've never been a Patron before. I'm on a very limited disabilities income but your content always makes me think and smile for the 20 minutes or whatever amount of time you post in a week, and I don't get to smile much in my life. Thank you for putting yourselves out here and distracting people like me from our woes for even a little while!

[@lordofbamfs-3941]

When you guys described the power of the third eye and 3-eyed crow I was reminded of Sauron and his abilities. At east there's no Melkor in ASOIAF.

[@johndaly5268]

I have watched every single one of your videos. Some multiple times. I love it

[@shorndancingbetweenthereal8118]

Each time I see Arya and Bran being associated with death, I think of the many faced god/lion of the night. This channel really creates thought provoking content. Keep dissecting and keep up the awesome work!

[@sakshock]

This is the best ice and fire channel !

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you so much

[@julianusvatinius4479]

The Only asoiaf KZbinr That has quality content and uploads On A regular basis Love Your Content :D

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

+Julianus Vatinius thanks so much!

[@julianusvatinius4479]

The Order of the Green Hand Your Welcome :D

[@julianusvatinius4479]

The Order of the Green Hand Also Have You Watched Alt Shift X good videos but takes for ever to upload also he is reading Agot drunk complaining about food descriptions I'm trying to keep on track. I am not a affiliate of alt shift x Sorry this comment is so meaningless

[@biembamboombriekamam2699]

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[@madadhthewolfhound1623]

You have made asoiaf so much more mysterious George's writing is unmatched except Tolkien I can't choose between them your theories fucking facinate me. Much appreciated

[@ProfitYoEL]

My most anticipated channel!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you

[@TheMedinaBlack]

I wish I could like these videos twice. Great work all around. I look forward to the next one!

[@willy289]

Video so good I liked it twice! Bran and the Tywin videos are my favs

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you so much...we're going to finish Tywin in the next week or so

[@michaelwatson8890]

The 3 eyed crow seems to be taunting more than teaching

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

we were actually talking about that Friday night

[@aruvitamishra1945]

We see Martin to be a person extremely resourceful in histories of the world. He is likely to pick up the most interesting and suitable instances from all over the world, like Scotland and India. As per Indian mythology, the identity of the Destroyer God from the Trinity of creation, sustenance and destruction has been defined as being three-eyed, i.e. Lord Shiva. It is known that whenever he opened his third eye, he brought destruction to the world of men. Maybe that is exactly what Bran is destined to do in the series. He's new with his powers, very young to be owning such massive power and honestly doesn't have a lot of wisdom either.

[@tracywhitlock5395]

Great video, as always guys!! I can't wait til part 2!!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

+Tracy Whitlock thank you Tracy!

[@masterneo96]

Nice, you are finally doing another thick thin foil theory! I love it and can't wait for part 2! :D Very good :)

[@jayceee.5494]

Oh my God...this video blew my mind. Btw, this is the first video I've seen on your channel. Just subscribed. Keep up the awesome work, guys.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you so much!

[@najalush]

This is brilliant! Lots to ponder before the next one...

[@blueskieskoda2833]

Well done as always, thank you.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you so much

[@mary-patconnolly1583]

Another fantastic video!! My mind is reeling with all the implications :-)

Superbly done!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you!

[@Itisoverthere-rw]

Reading about Bran in the books, especially in Dance with Dragons it gets relly fucked up. What he does to Hodor is disgusting, he tries to control Meera and every time he is in Summer it is so messd up. I would be surpriced if Bran doesn't turn into the biggest threat for Westeros.

[@gllyflower]

+Γιάννης Νικολάου Yeah I mean I know The Order of the Green Hand was like "sorry to break it to you folks, but Bran's got demon tendencies"...but I don't think most people will be surprised. I mean he really crossed a line with Hodor. An evil line.

[@Itisoverthere-rw]

I always saw him as a future villain. We will see.

[@gllyflower]

+Preston Jones Well, I think the point is no one's simply a villain and no one's simply a hero. And everyone's a little bit racist.

[@gllyflower]

+Preston Jones Agreed! He really does take the genre and turn it on its head.

[@mrgaudy1954]

I can only imagine what he'd make Meera do, the little creep.

[@XXcaesar5000]

I really hate when I don't get a notification for your videos . love the new series already "The third eye was full of terrible knowledge" Duck and cover ,run for the hill, Danger Will Robinson.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

I really wish I could figure out why the notifications seem to go out staggered...a few weeks ago someone told us that they got the notification 3 days after our video went out

[@jimboy3625]

Don't rely on youtube only, follow them on twitter, facebook, and Patreon and you will be notified.

[@XXcaesar5000]

I'm there with you on Patreon but I'm not into facebook or twitter

[@marcusanark2541]

Bran definitely doesn't know what he's into.

[@210SAi]

I’m still not sold on the Children of the Forest being evil.....GRRM said the White Walkers will be a major part of the next books. I don’t see how WW and the CotF are both evil threats along with everything else that’s already going on in Westeros and Meereen

[@marcusanark2541]

@@210SAi Humans almost wiped out the Children from existence, they flat out say to Bran the world men are making doesn't have space for them; and I don't think the Others are going to be the major or even a real antagonist I think they might even have built The Wall themselves.

[@malmorbidus2788]

They say the best villains often see themselves as the hero...

[@SolaGratia.]

So is Euron the three eyed crow? I've never considered any of this before but this 3 eyed crow stuff reminds me a lot of Euron invading Aeron in his dreams/visions.

[@darrenjaxen1019]

I don't imagine that George meant Bran was in outer space just because Bran's POV thinks he's 1000 miles up.

[@made-line7627]

No. I don't think so either. Interesting theory though.

[@AMBERSKYS1]

I'm gonna love this series of videos!

[@meridianmormont665]

Oh my you guys always give me so much to think about!!!! Time for another reread I think . Keep up the great work. Seven Blessings 💖

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thanks Meridian...Seven Blessings

[@indivisiblebyzero1]

btw totally love that preston didn't dismiss your basic premise- hope he looks into - also great production values, and voices

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you! Do you mean about the Kingsguard thing? I saw that episode too!

[@indivisiblebyzero1]

well to be honest i'm doing re-read based off of your vids, totally new ideas! i don't think y'all are 100% on 100% but yes

[@Richard_Nickerson]

I don't think Jojen literally meant his physical heart. I think Jojen was going for something like knowing his mind. No one ever talks about x-ray vision is that way after that, but the crow and Bran can read minds, so... I think Jojen was saying more like knowing his mind, intentions, and loyalties.

[@genesisdawn6672]

Dude, the TEC literally shows him the other attempts to persuade other people to "fly or die." There were a thousand bodies on spikes. And with how many one-eyed characters there are, could it be that they are all failed attempts? Or maybe the Crow takes an eye in lieu of the third he helped them open?

[@ReeceDee]

I agree. Green hand vids are always great eye openers. can you guys not book some holiday at work and drop a whole bunch of vids to keep us ticking over summer vacation? 😊

[@thisguy8106]

I love spending my lunch watching y'all!!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

happy we could help

[@thisguy8106]

Yall are truly amazing. Beyond words.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you so much

[@marcmartial1221]

Hi there. Great video, again :-) So, like almost everyone else I thought the 3 eyed crow was Bloodraven. But you(ve convinved me that it's not, and that it's most probably evil. That got me thinking about this popular theory that Mance sent the Catspaw to kill Bran. I thought it was possible, but I never found a plausible motive to explain why he'd try to kill Bran. Well, if Mance is truly Arthur, and if he's in league with Melisandre, then it could be that Mel somehow (glass candle, maybe?) knew that the 3 eyed crow was trying to take control of Bran, and then convinced Mance that they should not let it happen (a powerful warg with Stark blood would obviously be a great asset for the Great Other). What do you guys think?

[@BiteThis]

I believe shiera seastar is the three-eyed crow. I think she seduced both bloodraven and bittersteel to put them against each other on purpose. Bittersteel gave shiera bloodraven's eye as a gift to win her affection and prove himself better than bloodraven. After she acquired the eye she used it in blood magic and became the three eyed crow. Once bloodraven found out she betrayed him he began to work against her. Crows and ravens are both members of the corvidae species, close relatives, just like bloodraven and shiera. I think shiera and bloodraven are fighting over bran, to use him against each other.

[@210SAi]

So who’s Quaithe then?

[@Nitrousoxidification]

Nooooo! More! Moooore!!! Every time your videos get better and every time it feels like so much content but it's never enough. You guy;s are like the crack cocaine of my subscriptions.... like without the nasty side effects.

[@petequill8469]

Bran could end up being the most powerful (living) character in a Song of Ice and Fire. I love listening to indepth analysis of how his power have grown.

[@DT-mn6wr]

This is great keep up the good work

[@sflr38]

I've been binging your channel for the last week and love it, my favorite channel 2nd only to Preston. The biggest thing I can't get over with Mance being Arthur Dayne is Mance's musical abilities and that Arthur had no history as a musician. Did you guys have any thoughts about that?

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you so much...Mance isn't that good...Theon in Reekmode didn't describe his singing all that well, and neither does anyone that I remember...I think he likes music because his best friend was a musician...who is to say that over those years of being friends with Rhaegar that he didn't learn to play the lute, which is a much easier instrument than the harp

[@honestinsincerity2270]

Yeah see I think that passage in the ACOK Jon chapter where Jon dreams of being in a wolf and then seeing Bran in a tree wasn't Bran actually reaching out to Ghost. For one thing, Jon was beyond the wall at that point with Bran still in the crypts at Winterfell, so I feel like the magic barrier the wall poses should be consistent with Bran unable to reach an animal past it. But also, and more importantly since that magic barrier seems to effect wargs but possibly not Greenseers, during that passage where everyone assumes Jon reaches Ghost in his dream and talks to Bran in a tree, the author states that the wolf Jon is in howls to his brothers and sister. He even specifically mentions how the sound of that call bounces around and sounds lonely or sad. So, if he's truly sharing Ghost with Bran during that dream, this is the ONLY time that Ghost has ever made a sound and contradicts other passages in the books where Jon says Ghost is drawn to high places but will never howl once on them. Then right after Bran touches him in the tree, at that point, he's shot over to "another" wolf that we definitely know is Ghost because his feet are deep in snow, he's spying on the wildling camp and he's them attacked by Orells eagle. And it's later confirmed that wasn't a dream at all when Jon finds Ghost laying in the snow with eagle wounds. So I think that somehow the first wolf dream that Jon sees Tree Bran in was actually some type of glass candle like dream and not Jon and Bran sharing Ghost. I originally thought that it was actually Jon reaching Summer and them sharing him before Jon is shot off to his own wolf. But that doesn't make sense either with the wall between both of them. Unless somehow Jon managed to greensee thru to the future when Bran made it beyond the wall and it was actually future Tree Bran in that passage communicating with Jon. Of course, this could be just a simple mistake on the authors part with either him forgetting Ghost never howls or that the wall is a warg barrier. I have a feeling that a ton of these theories people come up with are based on a lot of in depth logic and reasoning of the text and rules of the world, when really much of it is just George forgetting how some of his magic/characters are supposed to work.

[@MrSkillen]

Oh yeah, as always this is great!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you so much

[@PBRStreetgang]

Another great video, thank you again for your insight. Bran III GoT will probably end up as one of the most important chapters of the entire series. Definitely believe that Osha knew that there was a difference between the wolf / warg dreams and the visits from 3-eyed crow.

[@TheVeganFinalBoss]

Can't wait to watch this. A mans internet has returned.

[@longfang72]

Still love everything you do, keep up the great work. Though I think you have it backwards, the three eyed crow is waking the hidden old powers of true kings blood. the one true king the King in the North who's name is Stark. Gathering up the leaders of the Green Hand, to fight the next coming winter. Like how the children made the WW, so two the old gods make the Starks protectors for the realm. I think of the three eyes crow as the grim reaper (death), he is not good or evil, his job is to carry souls to the other side, but as soon as the WW wake, so too does his need to wake the protectors. forcing them to open their eye to the powers the gods bestowed upon them. Tin foil hat ready, the crypts of Winterfell are another gateway to the realm of the old gods, like the house of Black and White and the cave in the North, they are there to train those to fight to others, why they spring into action as soon as the deserter says the whites have returned. Everything in GRRM is circular, as a history buff you live and die by the phrase "those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it." in his world it happened before and it will happen again, fail safes were put into place by "Those who remember" to make sure when the past comes back they will be ready to do what men must. "All men must serve" and they serve one of the old gods Death, not good or bad, just is something all men must face , but hopefully "Not Today"

[@peterwindhorst5775]

For the love of god, don't give him magic. It would be easier to have him provide everything Joff needs. Start with small animals like cats and dogs encourage it, coddle the boy's sadism. Then say, "Why not a man? or a sick boy?" Joff would jump at it.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

and how was LF supposed to know that Bran would fall before they left, and how did Joffrey find a cutthroat to do the job? the circumstances worked out too perfectly for LF for him not to be involved in some way

[@peterwindhorst5775]

A spy among the King's retinue can keep LF informed of Bran's fall. The same spy could be the one that is the cutthroat. The said cutthroat could be providing Joff with the cats and other small animals to be abused - Joff never knowing that the cutthroat is on LF payroll to keep the boy happy.

[@made-line7627]

I know. Pleeeeeaaaase don't ruin the awesomeness that is Littlefinger by making him magic. It just ruins him. It's as bad as Arya killing the Night King in the show.

[@genesisdawn6672]

The Crow told Bran he'd die when he hit the ground. What if Bran really experienced death after his fall? Just like Dany was reborn with her dragons from the funeral pyre, necessitating that she must have *died.* I've been wondering for some time if there were more than ice wights and fire wights. I thought there might be a death wight. What if it's Bran? Literally animated by death. Jon smells death on him. And if he really does get the throne, does that mean that the people are ruled by Death itself? Is George trying to say that we are all ruled by death in the end (of our lives)?

[@210SAi]

Nothing in the text states that Daenerys died in the flames. Bran couldn’t have died from the fall unless everything after that is all in Bran’s Head

[@charliethomas2217]

Can I ask, cuz I'm genuinely curious and would appreciate any answers for this theory I've concocted. There are a number of other dreamers who'd failed to fly and been impaled upon impact and, obviously, died. Either the crow is manipulating Bran by creating this vision of the "dead dreamers" to scare Bran into opening his third eye and fly. Or those dreamers are real and the crow has tried for countless times to do what it did with Bran. I don't see a grey area for these possibilities. If the first is true that only strengthens the theory that the crow is actually a malevolent being bent to use Bran for evil. If the second is true it also strengthens the basis of the crow being malevolent, not only in manipulation but in that it has tried omce for every dreamers corpse to make a pawn like it did with Bran; killing each of them. But if this second one is right that also shows that Bran is somehow special: that his Stark blood, his Wargdom, makes him especially suited for the tasks the crow would use him for...I would luv an answer for which one could be right. Discuss at ur leassure.

[@uzzyR]

Yay! New series! But please come back with Littlefinger part 4 quickly...

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

We're going to finish Tywin and come back with Part 2 of this, then get back to LF...this one and the next one give some background for where we're going with LF

[@ashleyofnaath]

I see some parallels between what Bloodraven & The three-eyed crow are doing to Bran and what the kindly man is doing to Arya in order to awaken their abilities. While teaching him to skin change ravens, Bloodraven tells Bran "Never fear the darkness, Bran. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong."(Bran III, ADWD-p450). Later on in the same chapter, after eating his Jojen paste, when Bran enters weirwood roots for the first time, the children extinguished all the torches in the cavern and once engulfed by darkness Bran goes into the roots. So again, we see a new power emerging once darkness is embraced. Which brings me to Arya, in the House of Black and White. The kindly man takes her sight, thereby forcing Arya to live in a state of constant darkness. He claims this is punishment for killing the singer from the Night's Watch, and later says that he would have taken her eyes anyway as part of her training. I believe that to be a partial truth. I think the kindly man has a different set of rules for this girl with magical blood. Like Bloodraven with Bran, the kindly man is trying to awaken Arya's magic. In The Blind Girl I, ADWD, Arya asks the waif how long she had to be blind. The waif tells her "Until darkness is as sweet to you as light". This sounds an awful lot like what Bloodraven said to Bran. While in this induced darkness, Arya skin changes a cat, which enables her to "see without being seen". Awfully reminiscent of what Bran tells Jon he likes about the darkness. This new found skill also enables Arya to see that the person who'd been hitting her was the kindly man. When Arya told the kindly man she knew it was him, her sight was returned. So it would seem like this was always the kindly man's end game. Based off your assertion that the Faceless Men are servants of the great other, as w/the 3EC, I think the Great Other is manipulating the Stark children so that Mankind can't use their abilities to stop him in the wars to come.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thanks Ashley. We're getting there in part 2. Haha we didn't want to make a 40 minute video lol

[@ashleyofnaath]

I wouldn't mind a 40 minute video!😆

[@ashleyofnaath]

Can you remind me, from your Tywin Lannister series, did you guys think he played a part in orchestrating the Tourney at Harrenhal? In my rereading, I just got to Barristan Selmy's account of the tourney and a few things about it struck me as odd. I feel like Tywin could've been involved.

[@jay446944]

I thought Bran didn't eat JoJen?

[@CaptCKernel]

Ashley of Naath I feel like since he was obviously Pro-Rhegar at Duskendale with his "better king" comment, he was the big benefactor of the Tournament. It parallels the benefactor of the Tournament in Dunk and Egg all too well

[@pritipatel4776]

I loved your video. The information is brilliantly put together. Feels like such a really possibility they way you have laid it all out. Three Eye Crow Question Dodging with a question. Reason - He does not know the answer Reason - He does not want to give the answer

[@christophertracy7272]

Martin is an atheist but the Lord of Light and the Old gods of the North exist.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

George says he's fascinated by religion

[@DD-ok2pt]

Excellent. Also don't forget that the 3ER actually edited Bran's thoughts and removed that he was remembering that is was Jaimie who pushed him. Crow - Bad.

[@alex52043]

I think Jojen saying that Bran could "see his heart" may have been more of a reference to inner desires and such. Gazing into one's soul, so to speak.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

it seemed pretty literal...he also mentioned being able to see the acorn the tree grew from

[@alex52043]

@@TheOrderoftheGreenhand The acorn the tree grew from isn't something you can see with X-ray vision though. He's either looking back in time or seeing the tree's memories at that point. And yes, I know trees don't usually have memories but this is Westeros and nature seems to be a mystical force, sooo....

[@ladydragon6854]

so love your videos and take on what is going on underneath the storyline the possibilities of what has happened in the past and present but also the possible outcome of the future I've been invested in these books since the first book was published back then there was no you tube so now since the show started and all the interest there is with the books when I do my rereads now it's like a different story every time so keep up the good work you guys I look forward to your next video xxx

[@miy1925hassun]

An Order of the Green video is great. An Order of the Green Hand video about the three-eyed crow is like my mother's pizza(one of my favorite material pleasures). Also, Bran is just too cute to be a demon! George just what kind of cruel, saidstic pshyco are y- oh, wait I forgot you're the guy responsible for creating Ramsay.

[@luminyam6145]

Incredible video, thank you so much.

[@grimmitachi]

21:15 I thought they made it clear that warging by definition is the ability to enter the minds of animals and warging humans is highly difficult.

[@dannyshow3801]

Bran has already seized the body of a person, numerous times... Hodor. So he has committed all three of the abominations

[@Drew_Thompson]

Man George rr Martin is really going to break new ground when he writes the first ever paragraph of wolf mating where one wolf is possessed by a teenager ever.

[@SaneMillennial]

I'm still trying to make sense of it all, as I feel like Bran has been misled by the 3 eyed crow and I still wonder if Bloodraven wasn't somehow The Great Other's prisoner as why couldn't he see it or tell Bran that he wasn't the 3 eyed crow and to stay away from him? I think Jojen and Mirra are good people, but have been misled as well, but their father knows the backstory of some important things and some think he's been at the Gods Eye now waiting for the right time to go into action (or maybe he's a prisoner too?), so why would he send his kids to Bran if he's on the side of good yet the Great Other could be behind the 3rd eye phenomenon? What does it mean that the Great Other wants Bran so much to open his 3rd eye unless he is planning on stealing Bran's body to live again that way (either the Great Other or the original Night's King in the books) as an all powerful being? Some have said maybe Bloodraven wants to take over Bran's body since he's about to die, so he lured him there since he sensed his great warging powers. And then some think Bran could've been Rholh'r but if so, then that either means The Great Other and Rholh'r are two sides of the same coin, if the Great Other is the one responsible for Bran's powers.... Yet then why fight each other, unless all they ultimately want is man's destruction in the process? - or maybe Bran realized who the Great Other was then went back and affected time as Rholh'r as a way to stop him? I still mistrust the COTF too in their true intentions in all of this. I'm still not sure if they're like how they're portrayed in the show where they regret creating the WWs and now are trying to help stop them (again) yet the timing of them creating them in the first place is suspicious too. They seemed to really hate the men for a time, and the men still destroyed many of their weirwoods, and still seem to be suspicious of those "gods" and keep them far away from most castles.

[@bouboubibila979]

Remember Dante's Inferno: Lucifer is at the center of hell, and the flapping of his wings is causing the most intense cold imaginable. It seems likely that the heart of winter is Lucifer himself (or the Great Other, whatever it actually is, here in ASOIAF). I believe that Bran's journey mirrors in some ways Dante's journey through hell, with Jojen first, then Bloodraven assuming the role of Virgil. Also remember that Lucifer has three heads in Dante's Inferno, which could be a parallel to the three eyes of the crow. Will Bran's journey end up like Dante's? After hell, will he go through purgatory and then visit heaven? I'd love to see that.

[@allyriastark3508]

Boubou Bibila who will be the third person to help him meet with three eyed crow? Do you have any ideas about third person?

[@agnibasnet8050]

omg.. right on time.!!!! awsome :)

[@grantdenton1668]

Hey ya'll. Awesome video as always. I was thinking about where you might be going with Bran's dream and experience with the three eyed crow. You seem to be focusing on Brans terror and how "his tears burned his face". Wouldn't that be a GRRM way of saying it was so cold that Bran's warm tears seemed to burn? The kind of cold our characters experience when there is an "other" around?

[@TheVeganFinalBoss]

half way through - holy shit

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you liam...I think it kind of ends with a bang, even though it leaves people hanging a little...we had enough for a 45 minute video and decided to cut it there, and finish it up in part 2

[@michaelcookielover6091]

Love y'alls channel. Always gets the theory juices flowing. While Bran warging into the Mad King isn't a new idea, this video makes me wonder if he did it to try and stop Aerys from burning Rickard and Brandon, but in fact he actually caused it. I try to stay away from GoT hype till a month away. I've got some catching up to do.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

I have never considered the idea that Bran messed around in Aerys' head...I always thought it more likely that Bloodraven tried to tell him how to kill the white walkers (burn them) and inadvertently made him obsessed with wildfire and burning people...there is no evidence to really go on either way

[@robertkillian2418]

love your channel. finally someone who has read the books. i agree with you on a lot of things. dany and her house with the red door make me think she is not who we are lead to believe she is i my go with preston on that, like the idea of lyanna and rhager being in winterfell. keep up great content

[@Gjergji311]

Will you be covering why it is that Bloodraven hasn't noticed anything nefarious about Bran (and Jojen)? Also, do you think Jon has also been affected?

[@kevindepuy5390]

This one was really freaking good. You guy's think the Three-Eyed Crow and Bloodraven are different people?

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Yes. One of our Bloodraven videos outlines why

[@skunkdoctor]

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[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

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[@redbayly]

Another interesting thing about the three-eyed crow's methods and how it shows Bran all the world stretched before him, tries to goad and pressure him to do what it says, and whispers all these promises reminds me of something from the New Testament. I know it sounds cliché, but the three-eyed crow operates very much like Satan in his temptation of Christ. In the gospel accounts, Christ is meditating in the desert for forty days after his baptism by John; he is tired, hungry, totally alone, and readying himself to face his inevitable death on the cross that draws ever closer. Satan appears and tries to trick Christ into behavior that is contrary to his nature as the Son of God, and thereby undermine his mission to save humanity. First, Satan tries to goad him by telling him to prove who he is and turn the rocks into loaves of bread to sate his hunger. In the second attempt, Satan takes him to the top of the Temple and tells him to jump because it is said the angels would catch him. Finally, Satan takes Christ to a mountaintop (or, rather, a "high place" as it says in the text) and shows him all the world and the kingdoms of men spread out before him and promises to give them to Christ if he will but fall down and worship him. It's just a little thing that occurred to me while watching this, but it felt like it resonated well with the themes of the video. It's all in the way that the three-eyed crow speaks and the way it seems to prey on young, vulnerable people experiencing a great deal of emotional/physical pain or who are close to death. The way it's clearly been using twisted people like Euron Crow's Eye and possibly even Littlefinger (from what I've seen in some of your other videos) by making promises to fulfil whatever twisted desires they have or deceiving lost and innocent souls like Bran, Arya, and Jojen in order to accomplish its own ends, is very much in keeping with Satan's modus operandi from a Christian perspective.

[@tylerbarrett6652]

Okay... so it dawns on me that during all of this, there is a time when Hodor will NOT go down into the crypts... and GRRM says it was just for that period of time. He goes down before and after... so what exactly was going on? Maester Luwin had Osha carry Bran down into the crypts... where they are scared out of their minds by Rickon and Shaggy Dog. Shaggy Dog even bites Maester Luwin. Later, when Bran is in Summer, he sees a winged snake while in the God's Wood... just for a moment, and then it was gone. Seems to me like SOMETHING woke up and escaped the crypts somehow... or SOMETHING happened. What are your thoughts on how that series of events fits with this whole process of learning to use his 3rd eye. Bran didn't naturally have it. He doesn't have red or green eyes... the crow had to give it to him. What is up with that? ... compared to the other Stark children who are all supposed to be wargs... but maybe not greenseers?

[@JuliusEvans06]

I always thought that Bran entered Jon/Ghost's dream with his ability to see the past (through his third eye).

[@MaluluKeleGuiSila]

After listening to this, it almost feel like I'm revisiting the Balgariad Series. Belgarath the Sorceror changed into a wolf and mated with Poledra(a female wolf) herself a powerful sorceress. They change at will.

[@joanisarmento]

Me too, I wouldn't mind longer videos. In fact, often i wish they were longer ;)

[@loufrontier9812]

So Brans a meteor? Or is symbolically a moon/star?

[@agnibasnet8050]

interesting thought !!

[@SaneMillennial]

I don't gather that from what they said so far. Just because he may have been flying through space?

[@loufrontier9812]

Well that's the fun thing about astro mythology and symbolism people can see what they wish to see. I'm gathering this from prior thoughts on what I've read in asoiaf. What do you make of it?

[@gllyflower]

+Lou Frontier Is that how you read it? I thought they were hinting that he was traveling through time--falling through time? However you want to describe it.

[@loufrontier9812]

+gllyflower that too is a possibility I definitely get that vibe while reading Jon's dream in ACoK, as it covers both Brans present situation and his future situation. It implies his bonding with the weirwood.net . If course anything is possible.

[@capitanspoiler7393]

16:54 "bran shooting through space" kzbin.info/www/bejne/epLdY3d5i7GbkK8 you are welcome