Phil Heath 7x Mr. Olympia Talks Bodybuilding, Mental Health & Personal Struggles | The Pivot Podcast

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Phil Heath, one of the greatest body builders of all time and a seven-time winner of Mr. Olympia joins The Pivot in a special Friday conversation talking his journey into fitness and performance as well his personal struggles along the way.
Sitting down with Ryan, Fred and Channing, Phil details his path from his childhood dream of being a professional athlete to wrestling to finding his calling as a bodybuilder. But a lot of success didn’t come without a lot of struggle. Overcoming mental health issues and loss, Phil turned his setbacks into motivation and explains how he was able to make peace after suffering emotional disappointments.
And no show would be complete without Channing being able to ask the questions we all want to know but wouldn’t dare say out loud!
Tune in to this special Friday conversation at 3p est with episode streaming on KZbin, Spotify and Apple podcasts

[@xilften1]

Your guys guest list is crazy. You guys have covered a wide spectrum of guests in such a short time. It's legendary to say the least.

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Because they are willing to travel... of course they are respected.. but going to the guests homes and places of business is a huge plus

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💯💯

[@moreeverythingtoday4582]

Facts

[@pcab5786]

Derek Rose should be a guest🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@brooklynforever1990]

Indeed

[@iRun24Digital]

The diversity of this show is crazy! Again, these boys don't miss!!! Love it!

[@lampfinancial]

Exactly

[@TwistXLR8]

Facts

[@jacobqueener7593]

Absolutely, Definitely my favorite interview show

[@erictaylor9582]

facts !!!!!

[@iRun24Digital]

@@ZZ-dy6xy I'm referring to the different topic genre, they don't just stick to one sport or guest type. what are you talking about?

[@juliusdavis5069]

I can imagine CT Fletcher on the Pivot. That would be a homerun episode.

[@sfrvnko7818]

Facts

[@ronniecathcart2484]

Man I would absolutely love for them to bring CT Fletcher in

[@flyingspacerock8968]

They interviewing the wrong one. Phil killed Bodybuilding

[@michaelblankinship7172]

Kurt Angle

[@TheHeart419]

@@flyingspacerock8968 explain because i dont know

[@baltazarpacheco8035]

“Im Damn glad no cars hit you.” -RC DAMN that line hit deep for me who also tried suicide when I was 18 but I’m alive at 27 still kicking it. Anyways Channing made this episode be hilarious haha and Freddy with the DEEP questions . What show… keep at it !

[@Semperityy]

god had bigger plans for you, im glad you pulled thru man!

[@kwicksand12]

Glad you’re still here with us

[@kernalbert4939]

Keep kicking, bro!

[@dr82rd]

Glad your still here my Man, GOD’s Plan is the Best Plan

[@sterlt.2836]

Glad to see you here brother. 👑

[@keljerel]

The diversity of this podcast's guests is unreal. Keep 'em coming fellas!!!

[@capricornmagic63]

But most are Black

[@caper087]

@@capricornmagic63 not all .. Jesus kaitlyn Jenner and ric flair ain’t black lol

[@TonyJackson44]

I knew you was talking about the diversity in the different sports not necessarily color.

[@keljerel]

@@capricornmagic63 Diversity applies to more than just race.

[@pauldawson5395]

@@capricornmagic63 most sports stars are black !

[@Syxxclips]

Fred accidentally leading Channing into his nasty conversations is wild lmaooo

[@WearyKawhi]

Freaky Fred be knowing what he’s doing 🤣

[@dr82rd]

He automatically knew he went down the wrong road and Chan took it way way out their. Hahahahaha gotta Love these guys man.

[@Ravaun1]

Lol camera 🎥 panned to Channing so quick!😂. Channing was like "👀"!

[@brianshropshire3481]

Chan chillin but you open the door we know the homie gonna do his job🤣🤣🤣 these guys chemistry is funny, amazing and well balanced !

[@T-HaynesTv]

@@WearyKawhi on god 😂. He be throwing that Lob to Channing 😂😂

[@gabrielhunter2129]

Phil just broke another boundary for body builders !! Thanks to the pivot podcast 🙏🙏🙏 y’all boys solid man keep inspiring keep pushing most importantly keep loving one another 💪🏾

[@browncmp]

Im a disabled vet. 6 years ago I found out I have cancer that has destroyed my endocrine system. It was give up, or fight back. Just like saying he laid in the road and heard nothing. After my consult, I sat alone, heard nothing. Im still here and Im better for it. His story makes me appreciate what he has done even more.

[@619behem0th]

I would of never thought y’all would interview Phil Heath. W interview, I’m a huge bodybuilding fan and big fan of Phil. This was cool.

[@chezzmaine]

Same here

[@sonjahicks1466]

I didnt know who this Man was and I am glad this Show introduced me to Him

[@papapeeps85]

Bro, Phil Heath is a big dude, but he's also a humble and down to Earth dude. Another great episode fellas.

[@dillonrobertson2138]

I love when yall introduce someone new to me. His story resonates so much! Most kids that dont the pro dream have to pivot and find their identity. It sucks, ive laid in the road myself. Thank you guys for this one!

[@kernalbert4939]

No pun intended. Hope you're on the right path now, bro.

[@cloroc]

Thank you for sharing Dillon

[@devinmcrews]

Man I got chills when he started talking about your identity being wrapped up in your sport.

[@jonathanheard980]

Phil does deserve his flowers. Legend indeed.

[@Josue166]

Facts!!

[@thecookster23]

Channing reminds me so much of my grandma. Zero filter and everything that comes out his mouth is somehow hilarious 😂

[@somewero49]

Oh so nana a freak? 😏

[@taike545]

@@somewero49 hell nah 😭😂

[@samkelisotshuma8485]

😂😂😂He makes me laugh

[@danielvaladez3210]

nah this was hard. been in therapy. was supposed to play at my dream school but thought I was going to marry my dream gal. so i passed up the school and got cheated on. I battled--I'm about to graduate with a degree in CS. this is the conversation a lot of young men dont wanna have. I'm only 23 but i appreciate this so much

[@kenjeshadugui]

Stay strong bro, as someone who had a similar journey I can say now you were put here for something greater. Salute.

[@xrewdavid]

The level of honesty and emotional vulnerability you guys allow to flow naturally is a testament to the caliber of people you are. Another great show

[@profitoneX]

The reason this podcast is great is because nothing is forced, they ask real difficult questions, and they aren’t afraid of confrontation. Excellence & black excellence at that.

[@jortizu92]

Phil Heath is a monster. Such an inspiration to many in the bodybuilding world. Good conversation with a legend

[@InsainNetwork]

This was such a great episode. The versatility in who the pivot is interviewing is unbelievable. This has opened my eyes to a lot. I have contemplated suicide and I’m happy to still be here. It’s been rough for me, but I’m blessed to be standing here today. I appreciate this episode because it has brought much clarity. Thank you so much

[@dellthompson1260]

Blessings brother. May not knw me but I’m glad you’re still here. Love 🤟🏾 Strive for greatness! You’re A King! 💪🏿

[@InsainNetwork]

@@dellthompson1260 appreciate that my brotha and many blessings your way 🦾👑

[@NORTREB]

You all are bringing out the personalities behind your guest's athletic career! THANKS!

[@1juicecrazy]

Phil Walked up like Debo from Friday 😂😂 another great episode in the books!

[@lenniemarshall3085]

😂😂🤣

[@abdulg4360]

"You won't see them at Expos because they will get Expose". Fred loved that bar 😆!

[@joshuagarcia662]

wow! this podcast is unmatched! they interview legends in every walk of life... Never did I think they would get Phil Heath... salute fellas..

[@viakpengbe]

RC's conclusion was on point. 🙏🏾 Greaaat episode!

[@Love2Hoop]

The way RC linked Seattle and violence back to a question of suicide to Phil deserves an award for sure!!

[@moebreezy7187]

I peeped his journalistic prowess. Man deserves an Espy!

[@NSmith-hh1ys]

Oh they def gonna win many awards in the future!

[@samsneadd]

Agreed and growing up in seatown and losing friends to suicide and violence. Finally getting away. Being suicidal myself. Growing up around the gangs and shootings and being a brotha and a fan of the sport. This hit home more than u can imagine. Def award deserving.

[@keumejose2448]

Facts!! I felt it too

[@carlito6458]

@@samsneadd 💯

[@gaber.1465]

Top tier show! Since the beginning these guys have delivered. Love the variety of guests and watching RC, Channing, and Freaky Fred grow throughout the lifetime of this show. Props to Phil Heath for sharing some of his experiences on this episode. 👏🏾 to RC with the Chadwick Boseman shirt. Bravo.

[@benflyt9827]

Dude is way more thoughtful than I would have guessed. New fan here

[@stepal7053]

19:05 “You were saved, to do something better” SUCH a deep statement! 🙏🏼❤️ May God bless him and his journey!

[@Neighbah]

I never thought bodybuilding would be even a podcast on here. My two worlds collide. Let’s go!

[@alexp1100]

This dude grew up with so many famous athletes it’s crazy

[@twoninesgwapo4156]

Makes sense how he was so down bad and hungry seeing everyone come up…great episode

[@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851]

Imagine others like him who didn't make it, seeing him and other dudes who are super famous

[@Notforsale206]

Seattle produces alot of pro athletes. Especially South Seattle and The Central District

[@tjofwakanda8027]

@@Notforsale206 I remember nate Robinson saying it was a lot of stars that came out of seattle

[@vonversace]

@@Notforsale206 even outside of Seattle, around Spokane everywhere is a basketball hoop and kids be hooping Seattle is on another level

[@alphanganga4092]

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode😭. Man, i am so glad i got to see this side of Phil Heath. What a guy. Thank God no car hit him👊🏾🙌🏾

[@mikecox6170]

Phil is the shit! Glad to hear him being this open and honest. He is a great representative of our sport

[@amsf1]

Guest lineup is insane. Great work my brothers.

[@Youngdre30]

Channing got me dying omg!!! 🤣

[@viriatobarros2317]

They don’t miss!!! The next step is to interview a regular random person, because they changing regular peoples lives…💯💯💯

[@ndawgg1858]

One thing about this show...it really shows u that all these greats that we think are superhuman...that they actually have gone thru some very dark times in the past and some even now...mental health and hard times either make or break u...everyone needs someone to lean on!!

[@michaelwilson939]

Yoooo, Channing is the best😂🤣😂🤣..." If my forearms was that big, I'd tear my whole head off, nothing but the shaft left"-channing

[@DGRAHAM4]

They rocked this one. I wasn't expecting Phil Heath as a guest. I'm glad I watched this one. This one could've went longer it was getting good. Great advice when Phil spoke about people getting their physical on the regular. A good majority of men of color are afraid of the doctor visit.

[@DT_313]

Man this is interview is AMAZING! I MET Phil YEARS AGO and he was the exact same genuine dude that he was in the interview. Much Respect to Phil and to you guys for what what you’re doing!

[@makeHimknown3]

I love how Uncle Fred is listening with his heart....Unc we appreciate u

[@josephtownsend3045]

I have been a Phil Heath fan since his first Mr.Olympia. I have listened to a plethora of his interviews and I have never heard the laying in the street story until now. Shout out to the Pivot Podcast!!

[@thomaskentouris5720]

Incredible Episode with Phil. You guys brought the deepest and fun out of him. Well done. More people need to see this!

[@splashmann1085]

This became one of my favorite things to watch easily every show is a banger🔥 Y’all all fit into it so perfectly much love to all of you for doing this💪🏼

[@trueboxingkings3721]

Channing is a damn fool, 🤣🤣🤣 The forearm joke had me crying.

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

🤣🤣🤣

[@onyx51]

RIP Chadwick Boseman. Another great show.

[@kmar2154]

The GOAT! I love this! The first to crossover to bodybuilding! And to get Phil?!! EPIC!

[@huntstyle]

This was outstanding. I had never heard of him, because I don't follow bodybuilding, but after this I'm a fan! Inspiring story, and he seems to be very humble.

[@sebastianpieterse7472]

Huge respect 🙏🏽 to Phill for this 👏🏽. This is deep.

[@MegaShinobi2011]

"You won't see them at expos cus they'll get exposed." Fred looked like really wanted to say "that's a bar right there"

[@tommy2putts]

15 mins and this is one of the best podcast episodes I have ever listened too and I spend way too much time on this app watching pods……much respect for PH and the Pivot guys for talking about an issue that so many people feel

[@brooklynforever1990]

I’m so happy that more men are talking about their mental health struggles and battles with depression.

[@jalenfrommiramar]

U know Channing succeeded when the guest be like “this man is crazy” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DMDL669]

Once again the trio delivers... blessings to the platform my brothers

[@mystatamiaj]

RC seems so much more relaxed and in his bag on this podcast

[@user-ik5ze1sh7i]

It's the environment you can tell the group has a real relationship

[@jamespatrick2680]

Channing be killing me with the weirdo questions lol. This was a good motivator for anything... I am a chef and gave me good go get em energy

[@RealisticEnt]

I'm glad when people talk about their experiences with suicide. My situation wasn't that I didn't hear anything, it was just a lot of noise in my head that wasn't real. My loved ones that I was preparing to leave were being checked off in my head until my son showed up. At that moment, everything came to a slamming hault and I came back to reality. It was noisy af in my head, but in reality, there was no sound at all. It was deathly quiet. At that moment, I realized I had to make A LOT of changes. BTW, I never comtemplated suicide. The pain got so intense and the decision was made out of no where. Its a literal psychotic break created by pain, depression and hopelessness.

[@MackBoxing-MMA]

I remember the comments that were said about Heath, and just took it as someone who was super confident and excelled at everything….hearing his story from himself, suprised the heck out of me and made him more human; good show as always.

[@larryholstein7925]

Phil is the man, miss seeing him compete. One of the best ever.

[@dwaynenotjohnson1405]

Phil heath revealing he won state with Jamal Crawford not even 5 minutes into the pod wtfff this episode is crazyyy!🔥🔥🔥

[@WarrenTafah]

This was one of the most genuine episodes

[@GodlyDating101]

Man this podcast is insane! Helping so many men heal and develop hunger around the world. Kudos to y’all

[@haystak510]

I didn’t see this coming but happy to see y’all got 7x mr Olympia Phil Heath on this

[@Nat_Turner]

Shout out to the homie for putting me on to this podcast last night. Great episode. This is some dope content.

[@LeadbyEG]

Loving Phil Heath, his honesty and integrity. 💜Pivot Podcast

[@Artsyclone2012]

💪🏼 never thought I’d see Phil on the pivot! Y’all always bring the most honest and genuine conversation no matter who the guest is 🔥🔥

[@Notforsale206]

Shoutout to Big Phil a true Seattle Legend. ☔️

[@khoderacoleman1173]

Channings eyes when ole dude was approaching was hysterical! Like he seen Michael Myers approaching with a Machete! LOL!

[@gregj9535]

You need a Channing on this kind of show with the seriousness of some of the questions to bring that laughter and comical aspects to it. He is a real fool and it’s needed… much respect to all u brothers and the great content you put out💯💯💯💯

[@kurtluga6915]

This show is goin to good directions and different genres is really great. It’s different from other podcast and only having great conversations where their guest can open up to a personal level. Keep up the great work guys. Would like to really see phil heath against kai green again on a competition

[@andrewespinoza692]

I used to HATE "the gift" and now you can't do nothing but appreciate his greatness. I loved the boys touched on that. Oh and RC is back to killin it with the sweater

[@muzimchunu9993]

I love this podcast. Every week I’m here. Awesome to see Phil Heath as a guest, awesome to see him in this environment with other brothers. You guys really know how to bring the walls down & allow guests to delve into their stories authentically.

[@michaelmcmillan983]

This Podcast should be so much bigger, Chan, RC and Fred you guys are all role models to the young black men in the world! Thank you for shining a light on these major issues .

[@kevacademia]

Ok ya caught me off guard with this crazy pivot . I see what ya doing 🙏🏿💙🐐 i can tell ya was definitely aware in your primes 🔥🔥🔥

[@mrsandura78]

You guys are a treasure to the culture!!! Y’all brought out The GIFT!!! Damn.. I love this

[@ravensfan410]

This is the blueprint for greatness! No other shows compare. Amazing interview!!! You guys deserve an Emmy, or whatever award is available for great streaming content 100%. Keep doing BIG things my brothers!

[@JayMoney81178]

Phil Heath just earn a fan. His mindset is what makes greatness. Can’t wait to learn and see videos of him.

[@davidabbot1990]

Unreal episode fellas! Really felt this one. Much love Phil, thanks for sharing

[@jaquanadams1]

This one was an Emotional roller coaster😮‍💨🙏🏾

[@calvinfelton4077]

The plethora of guests, love hearing these stories. Y'all were definitely meant to be doing this. Great conversations.

[@rigobertojack9500]

Letting the guests talk is one of the best part of the show. Different platforms is crazy good

[@blakbrain1208]

I appreciate how relaxed the guests are in order to tell their stories! It's really refreshing!!

[@kaobiokekeewo6316]

These conversations always leave me with little nuggets that I hope to implement into my mindset and lifestyle. Shout out Pivot podcast for engaging in meaningful conversations!

[@skottg.walton240]

Thank you all for having Phil Heath on your show. It was really enlightening.

[@Thehiddenhuddle]

THIS was amazing. I’m in the Bodybuilding Industry and I never knew this about Phil. Bravo to this awesome podcast 🎊 🎉

[@damienwyche2105]

Wishlist for Pivot: Andre Rison The Rza Mariam Jones Dan Marino Barry Sanders Ice Cube Dexter Manley The Rock Steven Jackson(Rams) Phil Jackson Isiah Thomas(Pistons)

[@WhiteBeltG]

The Rock will definitely happen

[@tryjames1ify]

Interesting choice's

[@inoketaufalele562]

Can’t believe ya’ll got Phil Heath 7 time Mr Olympia on here damn this was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@shaunjones9676]

Thank you, gentlemen, for continue to think outside the box with these interviews. You keep putting guest on that I would never think you would interview. I appreciate how you are able to get the guest to open up and gives us the real on what is going on in their life. This is therapy to a lot of us who watch the Pivot. Great Job Gentlemen!

[@jalenroddey1419]

The worlds rejection is Gods protection 🙏

[@ml2539]

I'm so pumped for this episode! Didn't even watch just wanted to salute. You are doing the damn thing!

[@kennethherrera1659]

Phil is an amazing human being. Always took the time to help me out and answer any questions that I had. Also used to repost my videos and it brought my followers as well as followers up.

[@whatwouldjesusdo7961]

damn that last sentence hit hard. that ending was some poetic stuff

[@baronredd112]

The night time outside vibe is a great atmosphere..little things like this makes this show stand out 🔥 🔥 another dope interview

[@ShadomanG]

The Pivot, is in complete control. Not only do we get GREAT guests from all disciplines, we get this shit on time. Back to back to back! Amazing content. BIG Phil Heath 💪🏽

[@trellcleveland5187]

Can we literally solidify this as the best podcast out? There is nothing negative you can say about it. The chemistry, the questions, the guests, the locations of each show, the topics. You name it, they don’t miss. I find myself saying, they can’t beat this episode and somehow they find a way to prove me wrong. Phil’s message to wanting to educate US about the sport as well as taking accountability of his actions speaks volumes as to who is was and now who he is. Love brothers

[@legendkilla8651]

Love this podcast. Great show. I laugh and cry every show. Its nice to see the multiple facets of brothas. Its great to see "elite" brothas have regular life trials and triumphs like the rest of us.

[@MrBeatboxmasta]

"You won't see them at expos because they'll get exposed." Fred caught it.

[@mathematics8531]

Yeah you’d be surprised how much photoshop & EGOs are in todays fitness & bodybuilding community. I remember a some big mf wouldn’t even shake my hand at the Arnold Classic in 2018. He signed an autograph and gave me picture. I threw that shit on the ground. Weird Mfs

[@sydneydance]

The mental health talk in this episode was so real guys. Thank you for talking about it. Thank you Phil for opening up and showing that the biggest, strongest guy in the room can still talk about it. Get rid of the stigma. 🙏👍💪

[@calvinrnewby]

Great interview, I never knew who Phil Heath was until today and I'm glad I now know his story. I love the chemistry with RC,CC & FT who all play vital roles and it's a great connection with them and all their guests.

[@rjordan6165]

Truly a inspiration for all of the different athletes there interviewing.. I never knew I would be that interested in different type of sports keep up the good work fellas much love from (West Baltimore)👏🏽👏🏽

[@brianawilliamson765]

Channing is pure gold 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love this show , teaches me a lot as a woman that likes sports

[@FerrariRari]

Maaaan He Is The Life & Soul 😂😂.