Winston Peters on the claims that Māori aren't indigenous to New Zealand

[@markturner2971]

You should be running the next government, not national not act. This country is in dire straits and it Needs to turn 180 degrees.

[@charlotteweber9466]

100% agree! The only man qualified for the job when the country is in this state

[@lucial9887]

We all should move forward instead of look back. One person one vote. Nobody get special treatment.

[@annekevandenberg1635]

Must stop giving in to ethnic demands at the expense of the rest of the people of a nation.

[@Playboysmurf1]

Gotta finalize that land theft

[@rocky6180]

Stop the old bits of dog hide and paper immediately!

[@FrightF]

This would be cool if it mattered but the people dont appoint the next parliament, debt collectors do. The previous governments rack up whatever, It doesnt matter who gets in, they have to undo the borrowed money, the continual debt accumulated, be it National or Labour. Its a cycle. All under the guise of Freedom. You better believe at this time Labour will spend the money they borrowed knowing next governments will need to pay it back. Theyll go to town, fulfilling all that they can! Who wants to be in parliament after that? I sure wouldnt. National comes in and nobody wants to them to use our nations natural, truly renewable, resources, Oil and Gas and to some degree Trees. If we do, we must export it to where (mostly) Its NOT China. China has huge natural resources. Nobody wants nuclear in NZ. What do we have left? Even our Dairy industries being attacked. The "climate change" angle. In the 80s this was the Green House Effect and blamed on Refrigerators lul. Do we wanna be self-reliant or in the pockets of others?

[@elizabethbradley4301]

​​​​@@FrightFall of these movements that are telling all nzers that we are all pieces of garbage that must be aware of our sins from a group of strangers must be rejected. We had lowest religious percentage in NZ 25 years ago and magically rainbow flags and sh1t came along treating us like religious extremists disowning their kids when this was not an issue. If anything everyone else should have learned from us. The fact that this country had to be sustainable for survival reasons for generations and culturally composted and was a nation of farmers and tradespeople thatvhad people come along acting like we needed to be aware of global warming was ridiculous. Im sick of being treated like a villain because of a plastic bag and then condescending remarks on a papee countdown bag saying we can take the paper bag that they are kindly providing as if a paper bag, shipped over on a tanker of oil from china is somehow a favour, nobel and environmentally friendly. As if replacing plastic bags that people did reusw and stash away for thick branded plastic bags for $1.00 were going to make people better off. Removing cage eggs for free range in which apparently it magically costs twice the price and things with less chemicals are three times the price when literally everythinf has a chemical in it. Its not genuine to so things for the environment and make it more expensive and less accessible and then also remove the cheaper options which removes competition and once again goes after poorer people. Also this rubbish of if you buy something they'll donate money to a cause, Id like to buy items because they are good not because they are riddled with guilt and morality, its ridiculous while none of these people care about how much they are fleecing the people around them. We literally cant live in a place acting this vapid and stupid and its got to a point where Id rathee grow my own foos and share and force these idiots to earn their place and respect the buyers and their children. Its got to a point where I dont even think the schools deserve our kids and they need to earn the right to that as well and also have to be competitive and remove zoning. And whatever schools are the most respectful just get more funding and expansion to get more kids. And if every person in the country had more creativity with their money other than real estate there might actually be more jobs, people not losing thousands in moving costs and more independence and more income generated in the country

[@kiwinz8392]

Well said Mr Peters

[@MatuaKiwi]

well said he lied fromthe start new zealand doesnt have a constitution this isnt america bro. Also United nations declaration does not give more rights to indeginous people it stops colonizers from completely eradicationg indeginous culture and stops the complete annexation of indigenous land by government

[@MrTumblingmoth]

Luxon says peters is wrong. He needs to get up to speed. A pity he has not picked up on the simple stuff like this. Mike Laws has been a lawyer and has picked through UNDRIP and the rest and all need to get their heads around all this. When you boil this all down Peters needs as much power as possible so he can have a good crack at correcting the mess we are all in.

[@lindaclifton2460]

Luxton is out of order I will be voting NZ First next election, I am a nat voter I thought Luxton would be good… but two things I was very disappointed when he said Biden was sharp as a tack that is a lie, and now he is not supporting Winston with the truth, funny how people are afraid of the truth. ✝️

[@rachelabbott9393]

Absolutely love your style Winston. You are a winner!

[@MatuaKiwi]

winner he lied from the start, new zealand doesnt have a constitution this isnt america bro. Also United nations declaration does not give more rights to indeginous people it stops colonizers from completely eradicationg indeginous culture and stops the complete annexation of indigenous land by government

[@lilfridge5652]

​@MatuaKiwi you are not indigenous. There were people here before them, whatever race they were. It's foolish to believe Maori were here first, bit like saying Columbus was the first to reach and discover America, and before the early 1900s there were no people on Antarctica.

[@MatuaKiwi]

@@lilfridge5652 okay so who were these people and where are the remains of these people. ill wait

[@SopwithTheCamel]

When the National introduced this I asked Key what his definition of indigenous was. He duck shoved.

[@robintamihere4550]

Native Title, Indigenous Native Title, Aboriginal Native Title, all stated on land deeds proclaiming Maori's ownership of land back in the 1800s by the British Monarchy. This alone is recognition Maori are Indigenous, SO GET OVER YOURSELF.

[@mikefinz1856]

The Maori gravy train needs to be stopped. Democracy must be the rule of the country not the lie of co-governance which is rule by racism.

[@priehowell8825]

Exactly. It stops now!

[@MrRasZee]

as a maori ive never gotten any "Gravy" from the govt . so what are you talking about?

[@user-bw5nc]

@@MrRasZee I'm also of Māori heritage, what I've noticed a lot, is the generalization of the Māori race, like they all think the same, act the same, and are privileged the same, when that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm not saying the poster meant that in their 'gravy train' comment, but there absolutely are plenty that do generalize Māori. It actually tells me more about them, than anything else..... there's a word for it 😉

[@priehowell8825]

@@MrRasZee bullshit

[@andreatodd3095]

@@user-bw5nc the activists aren't doing much to help Maori, or anyone else, other than making noise, I could understand if there was no representation for Maori in gvt or gvt departments, but there is, a vast majority of us don't expect there not to be, it's the guilt tripping the activists foster,. Never had any of this growing up, but it's getting worse.

[@2pintsofcremedementh]

Tommy Solomon would have a thing or two to say about "indigenous" Maori!

[@mr2981]

I just did some Googling of Tommy Solomon, and virtually every reference to him cites his status and significance as the last full blooded Moriori. All except one source - Te Ara. There he is described only as a "Moriori leader, farmer". and it is said "While he remained proudly Moriori in identity, Tommy Solomon was culturally Māori." It is a disgrace, and a complete woke-washing of history.

[@2pintsofcremedementh]

@mr2981 My Nan knew Tommy Solomon as she grew up one of 14 brothers and sisters on the Chathams, he was as Maori as the Kaimanawa wall, or the megaliths atop significant hills throughout the nation, that is to say not at all!

[@ABCBUGGYNZ]

Thats fascinating, and I wish more would say more. I've heard that from maori legends that when the canoes arrived there were people here. This is huge and nobodies talking about it.@@2pintsofcremedementh

[@godisanissan7407]

Ive been to Tommy's house on the Chathams. Its was falling down when i visited in '99😊

[@dartagnanngarangione4346]

@@ABCBUGGYNZthat’s a lie, Europeans came up with that propaganda 😂😂

[@bevywills1004]

Winston peters says exactly what he knows not what the media wants him to say. Yes been around for a long time now . Lead the way Winston 😊

[@robintamihere4550]

he is only shit stirring to get you white voters to vote him back in. the same old winston

[@StellaHoyles]

Well said

[@sovereignbeing8530]

Winston Peters is on my like list" along with Donald Trump Putin and Rocket Man😂😊👍

[@westsideAUKILANI]

Maori are the indigenous people of New Zealand Bev, Winston is wrong and using racial politics to gain favour. Seems to be working....

[@StellaHoyles]

@@westsideAUKILANI Maori like myself are indigenous to Hawaiki, it's not a question, but really an honest statement. You can't be indigenous to two countries. We are all New Zealanders.

[@amirrora885]

Most people in NZ are well aware that Maori aren't indigenous. It's only politicians and Maori with their own agenda who deny it.

[@ianmoon5436]

Im indigenous to England but I would be labelled a hatefull racist bigot if I were to claim first nation rights.

[@amirrora885]

@@auintogold4725 Any educated person can deduce the facts using a very insignificant amount of brain power.

[@amirrora885]

@@auintogold4725 Uneducated and indoctrinated into a belief system. Our average IQ is dropping.

[@Againstdhawa]

bull they are indigenous and in Aoteroa . we are claiming whats ours all blacks to be re named the KAHUS

[@amirrora885]

@@Againstdhawa Your literacy skills prove my point.

[@cspace1234nz]

Radical Maoris have created a form of racism that was never previously there. Many of us grew up side by side with Maori people, we went to school with them, played footy with them, worked with them, went into business with them, went camping with them went fishing and whitebaiting with them and then our kids all grew up together and have done the same thing. We were all one people. A close Maori mate of mine who has strong ties to his iwi descrices these radicals as "plastic Maoris". They got their snouts in the trough and have been pigging out ever since, meanwhile, ordinary Maori people are embarassed by them all.

[@merledoughty5787]

Titiwhi Hawarewa termed Winston as a Plastic Maori, this election will be interesting. Lets get one thing straight Winston was not going to go with national when he was swayed by labour under Ardern. National had shat on him and that was that, winston does play devils advocate and that for me is what is needed , like him or lump him he certainly has had more years as a politician than any of the rabble in the beehive today

[@briankemp2116]

@@merledoughty5787you are dead right, we have to give Winston enough power that national have on choice but to swing his way. We need to end this divisive woke crap, so the more vote for Winny the more chance of this happening.

[@valeriehughes1008]

A very true and accurate picture you paint of life in NZ. I am a 7th generation New Zealander and never in my 80 years have I experienced and heard the rubbish that the "plastic Maori" as you call them spout today... all the while setting themselves up as Maori Elite to grab all they can ... many are wealthy beyond belief... all stolen from their own people. Maori has to help us deal with these radicals - they know exactly who they are - they hate them as much as we do.

[@cspace1234nz]

@@merledoughty5787 ...yep, you make good points. I remember well over 20 years, an old mentor of mine over many years used to talk about allt he work Winston did behind the scenes between elections that most people never saw. But the older folks saw all that because he was one to look after them. He certainly knows how to attract the popular vote, years ago it was alal about "preventing the Chinese from taking over", now it's the same sort of thing, just closer to home. I think he's also the only one I have heard speak out against the nonsensical gender ideology and there's a great many people are interested in that.

[@JH-kd6hs]

Only one courageous and principled enough to meet with Wellington protestors too. Adern should have done it - they were NZ citizens after all. She could have smoothed the waters and at the very least improved her own mana as peacemaker attempting to facilitate reconciliation. She was of course too dim to take the opportunity. She had the political nous of a potato.@@cspace1234nz

[@mr2981]

Winston is in great form right now. Bring on October!

[@francisheperi4180]

We on!

[@itsjustweard2328]

I don't know why people are up in arms about this. This has been known for years.where do they think the Maroi came from do they think they fell from the sky.

[@robdykes3659]

Either Taiwan Korea or Hawaii but not new Zealand a country Maori never knew New Zealand existed so how can they be indigenous,sure you got here first, but you came from somewhere else as you have told us countless times,we came across the sea in our Waka,s

[@wellput1015]

Here first,able tasmen even verified this 1643,Winnie played all the mugs an won the fight,however can he carry on to win the war,only time will show his demise

[@Holdfast-of5eb]

Thank you Winston for setting things straight in fact think I well give you my vote

[@robintamihere4550]

Winston is a good liar, he's managed to con you.

[@NzTings]

​@@robintamihere4550 least he isn't a WEF puppet like the rest

[@saltymahero9898]

​@@NzTingshe is absolutely a WEF puppet...to think otherwise is delusional.

[@PsearFamily]

​@robintamihere4550 no he's not. There's archeological evidence that has been redacted from the public and has been for many years. Only government officials are allowed access to these documents that confirms this. Winston is the only MP in 50 years to acknowledge the truth without using for political gain like Labour's, Greens and Maori.

[@MatuaKiwi]

your thanking a man who lied from the start new zealand doesnt have a constitution this isnt america bro. Also the United nations declaration does not give more rights to indeginous people it stops colonizers from completely eradicationg indeginous culture and stops the complete annexation of indigenous land by government

[@crd-nz_001]

Hey Voters, how about putting someone in Government that supports unity and self reliance, rather than division and government reliance?

[@marcussteele8437]

We can't have Europeans 😮coming to the Asia Pacific region alleging to be self reliant and an economic island seperate from the community.

[@crd-nz_001]

@marcussteele8437 Time we did. Copying the U.S. in a Debt based economy, which relies on increasing house prices to keep it afloat, is not sustainable. Continuing to rely on large corporations for brain dead jobs and sending our own manufacturing off shore supports nothing but a race to the bottom. Enslavement by debt and allowing the country to think that is the only way an economic system works proves how broken the system is. The fact that none of this is taught in schools further supports that previous governments don't want its people to know this, allowing for the cycle of debt to be passed from one generation to the next, and the chains never broken. What this video demonstrates is that the more that we fight amongst ourselves, the REAL changes that need to be made are also never seen. (Strawman Argument) Unity starts with knowing what we ALL no longer want. If a Policital Party was to address the above issues, then I would back them.

[@marcussteele8437]

@@crd-nz_001 Woodstock 1969. We are stardust and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden

[@marcussteele8437]

@@crd-nz_001 Exactly. It was Henry VIII that started that shit in England. London belonged to the Catholic Church. Monestry land. He murdered them for land and divided it and sold it. Bank of England. Church of England. Capitalism. The only way you'll change that thought pattern in England is to lock them down. Imprison them to keep them out other countries and world resources. Like what happened to France 1940.

[@AskingforAIfriend]

Or govt a that's experimenting with collectivessness

[@mephistofleece]

Winston is the man 🙌♥️

[@Innerlight320]

Denying his heritage

[@coastalchicka]

Putting down his own people

[@mephistofleece]

No you tw@, He is just standing up for what is real, what is good for all, common sense and the truth. You want race based privileges, doesn't mean you should get them. Nazis wanted those too and look where they ended up in history. Shame on you racist bunch. Look in the mirror and feel ashamed. Just because you are a small bunch of entitled racists doesn't mean others should give in@@coastalchicka

[@sonnyday6830]

Winston is correct

[@richardcox3713]

Finlayson’s role in repealing the Foreshore legislation was motivated by the need to provide future employment as a Treaty lawyer. He generated a lot of favour and did very well out of his clever actions.

[@Anonymouse405]

Same with Eddie Dury 🥴

[@robintamihere4550]

Finlayson is ONE of many ROTTEN LYING DEVIOUS TREACHEROUS dishonest NZ MPs who lined his pockets with the WEALTH of Maori owned businesses and Maori owned LAND, JIM BOLGER is another, Geoffrey Palmer, & Bill English, another by now you should be noticing a PATTERN here they are ALL NATIONAL MPs, thieves & fornicators of the highest order. but wait there is more.... many more...

[@robintamihere4550]

Finlayson is a Criminal who filled his pockets by pilfering Maori land.

[@MandySam13]

Well the fact that Seymour voted against the legislation proves he can be trusted when he says he opposes co governance. It’s not right for Winston to act like he’s not trustworthy. I don’t think Seymour has done anything to deserve that. As for Key? He was conned. Then Sharples followed by many others, used the UNDRIP to try to change the meaning of the treaty by stealth. That’s the story. Now blaming National & ACT won’t help. We can all see Labour/Greens & TPM are radicals. Left to them, where this will end is anyone’s guess.

[@mikewalters5815]

The Left doing the job of the UN and Globalist agenda 😢

[@charlotteweber9466]

No, Laws had that wrong as he rectified at the end, Seymour wasn't even around in 2010.

[@MandySam13]

@@charlotteweber9466 Yes I did wonder that? I was thinking he was in from 2014? But because Micheal said that I thought it must be right? But I still believe Seymour is not for it. He was not part of the government that passed it. So we can’t blame him for it.

[@whatthe6532]

Probably in a civil war like Lebanon, Cyprus or the old Yugoslav states

[@chriskiwi2601]

The political arena has changed since he said that.

[@valeriehughes1008]

Correct Winston, any one who has read early NZ history.. the likes of Ernest Best & Robert Stout... Stout our first PM in 1842 who lived his life in NZ wrote many books about Maori - a highly learned man his works are very detailed... he died in 1931.... Best born in NZ in mid the 1850's lived amongst Maori and recorded their early history recording 164 generations of a number of early tribes... The vicious activists today (many totally ignorant of their own true tribal histories) have captured and rewritten our history - writing out the Musket wars when Maori wiped out 1/3 of their own population. Robert Stout actually records cannibalism did not end until 1842 and gives a very detailed account of their problems with Maori and changing their taste for cannibalism... he goes into much detail of the tribes and their numbers. It is shocking how Labour has let our history by hijacked and rewritten by activists with their own agendas.. The truth of the matter is Maori were the first colonisers of NZ and early natives of the day fared far worse being colonised by Maori than they did later in 1840 being colonised by the British Crown.

[@maieldmik5233]

More than 2/3rds or even more before hardly any settlers were established

[@senseisaitama8684]

Use your own brain. Why were weapons like the musket introduced to Maori from the Europe? Why were men with diseases brought to NZ first? And as for the cannibalism it was practiced by all cultures at one time or another do your research,and from what I've gathered only few Maori tribes practices this and the tribes that dis not all warriors did. Again you sound very disconnected.

[@senseisaitama8684]

@valeriehughes1008 DNA testing has been done. A whole documentary has been done. European anthropologists tried to discredit Maori from being indigenous people a long time ago on behalf of her majesty and the crown by saying MoriOri were a different people. But common sense told a different story, for example, the languagess/culture and physical feature similarities between the people from CHATAM ISLANDS(moriori) and New Zealand(Maori) were to related. Thank goodness DNA tech came around, and those uneducated fools were silenced when Moriori DNA came back as Maori DNA 🤣 I feel bad for you racist bozos that were hoping for the demise of what truly makes NZ unique and that is the Natives culture that is imbaraced by all kiwis 😀👍

[@user-zi3st5jh6v]

Not colonisers tyrants who killed and eat most of those already here and there were others before Moriori as well.

[@senseisaitama8684]

@user-zi3st5jh6v ok time traveller, I agree that there most likely were inhabitants long before Maori but they left or died before maori arrived. If they were still here when maori arrived they would've dispatched them quick if maori were a threat. Just use common sense sometimes.

[@gavinmcarthur3676]

get us out of the UN, NZLoyal will cancel all UN treaties, come on Winston keep up

[@Anonymouse405]

He's too old to keep uP with..Liz✨️

[@gavinmcarthur3676]

that may be so , but winston has been there he has experience, Loyal would be a good partner tho for NZ 1st

[@Anonymouse405]

@@gavinmcarthur3676 then there's morals, ethics and integrity...need l say more 🤷‍♂️

[@gavinmcarthur3676]

sounds like you are wanting a honest politician, they all lie, its part of the job

[@robintamihere4550]

@gavinmcarthur3676 - Another DREAMER. Making stupid brain dead comments. Winston cannot change United Nations policy. Winston is only a ''fart in a bucket'' a useless NZ politician he has no power to change International Law, or Treaties. UNDRIP is an International Treaty BINDING on ALL signing countries. NZ is a signatory to the Treaty. Peter Sharples signed NZ up in 2010, being a politician of the John Key led National government. Key was totally against signing the U.N. Treaty, so I'm surmising Key was threatened by the powers that be, to either sign up or take a swim wearing concrete shoes. You people live in a cotton wool world have no idea of what goes on around you. or that your government is totally controlled by outside forces.

[@marlenemcphee3502]

Thank you Michael Laws and Winston Peters.

[@Brucemcleod2345]

Maori have been in NZL shorter than Cockney in London who have been wiped out and lost East London. Maori are not indigenous. Well said Winston

[@robintamihere4550]

Native Title, Indigenous Native Title, Aboriginal Native Title, all stated on land deeds proclaiming Maori's ownership of land back in the 1800s by the British Monarchy. This alone is recognition Maori are Indigenous, SO GET OVER YOURSELF.

[@brucegibbins3792]

Irrelevant to Polynesian settlement in New Zealand. Before Cockney people were early Anglo tribes subject to Roman occupation and interbreading with the Angelo's. London was originally named Londinium by the conquering Roman's.

[@mickclipping882]

Indigenous means first people in a land regardless of where and when they got there. It is as easy as looking up a meaning of a word. If we used Winnies logic aboriginal Australians would not be indigenous because they came from Africa 40 thousand years ago or Native Americans not indigenous because they crossed the bearing strait 12 thousand years ago. It really is an uneducated answer.

[@killerangel4613]

Bullshit

[@killerangel4613]

Same pakeha bullshit just another day, what’s ironic is Winnie thinks he white but pakeha just see another Māori , so he’s not accepted by either people’s

[@888Sooty]

Its an indisputable fact Maori brag about having travelled here from elsewhere

[@lindac8237]

Yes, you’re so right. They admitted they came to New Zealand in their waka.

[@Innerlight320]

Yep still indigenous

[@thedarklordofthejougan4990]

It's also a fact that Maori have patupaiarehe whakapapa, it's also a fact the waitaha nui, ngati hotu, moriori, are related to Maori by blood and culture, it's a fact that the whole pacific ocean is full Maori people, Samoa, maoi, Tahiti, maohi, Cook island, Maori, Hawaiian, kanaka maoli, Rapanui, maohi, AOTEAROA, MAORI,

[@Timetofly8888]

@@Innerlight320 Not indigenous, Indigenous means, originating from or naturally occurring. Maori in Aotearoa are anything but Indigenous. You can't just change language definitions by shouting louder to fit a chosen narrative.

[@Innerlight320]

@@Timetofly8888 that’s plants😂

[@StGammon77]

Plants and animals are native or indigenous not people it's ridiculous we all got here by traveling they need to stop imagining they have special rights and the UN can't just suggest otherwise and not look at the history of each country

[@AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible]

Actually humans are also able to be classified in this way. All humans are indigenous to Africa. That was our centre of origin. Some humans self introduced to other parts of the world. Others stayed in Africa. Those who left inherited DNA from matings with Neanderthals. (Commonly 2-3%). Those who are descended from those who stayed have 0% Neanderthal DNA. The term "indigenous" has been used in a non scientific way. It actually comes from the Latin word "indigena," which combines "in" (meaning "in" or "within") and "gignere" (meaning "to beget" or "to produce"). In science it was used to describe species which evolved in a place. For example, Tuatara are indigenous to New Zealand. Blackbirds are introduced. So all humans in NZ are self introduced mammals.

[@Innerlight320]

I could argue tuatara existed elsewhere gondwana . Fossil leaves found in previous gondwana . Why do refer to tuatara as indigenous but not maori .

[@user-ii1iy8fz1d]

Holy shit they went there!! Moriori among other peoples... Go winston, thanks platform.❤

[@bronwynsearle2117]

They are not indigenous! Winnie should know, he's part himself 😊.. apart from that, it's in Maori history that they came from another place..end of!

[@manawahinekorero9534]

He says that.

[@thedarklordofthejougan4990]

Yes but they come in small numbers before kupe came, plus the 7 waka, but the patupaiarehe are in there whakapapa

[@AskingforAIfriend]

So did the New york jews occupying palestine ?????

[@AskingforAIfriend]

What are you trying to say ? Do you agree with ethnic cleansing and oppressed people from colonizers ? Are you against indigenous people that have knowledge of the land the stars the lunar cycle and plants herbs animals ??? And even knowing the seasons they would have had to be there a while to know of such knowledge any ways where are you from ?

[@veragreen9725]

You are ignorant of the definition of the word ‘indigenous’ … be educated and informed... Here is the official definition of ‘indigenous’ : “Indigenous or less commonly indigenous : of or relating to the earliest known inhabitants of a place and especially of a place that was colonized by a now-dominant group” …

[@martindicarlo3294]

Voting for you Winston!!! Where’s the money going iwis have received already?. It’s millions. Curious.

[@yogibear4682]

No, not millions, its now in the billions. They gave the north island invaders ngai tahu over a billion alone.

[@martindicarlo3294]

Well billions!! What are they doing with it to help Māori??

[@brianharris8055]

No wonder this country’s so deep in the shit, what have mori’s done to build this country ? Bred to fund booze, pokies, ram raiders, check out the jail rates and murders, geez don’t get me started. Willie Jackson says and what has white man done for mori, got you on $300,000 a year, plenty of late model wheels in your drive and how many houses you got now you little parasite.

[@koro287]

Invested in multinational companies, making everyone richer except the people the money was meant to help.

[@Rokker61]

Actually billions of Treaty settlement money so far, and I understand it's "in perpetuity" due to inflation - so will never be fully settled ever! But our common Maori folks still live in poverty in many parts of New Zealand, while the Maori "Fat Cats" line their own corrupted pockets!

[@Cruising_the_Dash]

Excellent Mr Peters......well said ❤

[@davidboskett5581]

The Treaty of Waitangi Act was originally passed in parliament and a tribunal set up to address genuine grievances Maori had for compensation for past injustices and for the land taken from them illegally by past governments. And I think most people in NZ thought that all these claims would be settled and the whole matter tied up within a period of 10 years or so. No one ever dreamed that 50 years later we would still be having new claims being made with further extra ordinary demands that were never discussed or thought about in the past Because of interference by the UN, a body with little understanding of the situation, Maori have become so emboldened that they want to have some control over every aspect of life in NZ coupled with co-governance. As long as we keep giving in to these demands the Maori activists will keep demanding more and more. The Treaty of Waitangi has no relevance in NZ today and needs to be abrogated

[@whatthe6532]

Well said sir.

[@jackiebiggs7071]

If you look at the 'principles' of the treaty which is a list of manufactured 'principles' drawn up in the early 70s you will understand why they the claims continue, particularly no 3 and no 16.

[@Troy-g3q]

Since when has any country. Honoured a treaty.

[@moniquebode1655]

You're absolutely right. Maori will never be happy and there'll always be something. Meanwhile NZ will go broke

[@moniquebode1655]

​@@Troy-g3q the only way to stop it is becoming a republic

[@andreatodd3095]

A great interview Michael, with Winston, pleased to hear an assurance that Winston is on board with NAT and ACT to put this country back to a position of improvement. Wipe the slate clean from corruption and ideological idiocy

[@tiatamara11]

NAT and ACT are not an improvement. Good luck. The greens are political criminals.

[@kotukuwhakapiko467]

😆bro don't fall for it..winny gave us comrade jabcinda. They work for black rock not you. Please wake up

[@andreatodd3095]

@@kotukuwhakapiko467 can you provide verification from a contracts lawyer that Winston is working for black rock as you say ?

[@briankemp2116]

@@kotukuwhakapiko467c,mon mate, he had nothing to do with putting that woman in power in 2020, the voters did it all by themselves, Winston got shit on like the rest of us.

[@kotukuwhakapiko467]

​@@briankemp2116winston created co government with jabbycinda ..

[@greencloud2225]

it would be more accurate to call Maori 'first settlers' given that the only mammal native to NZ is a tiny bat.

[@jimijamesjowitt]

The Maori found shipwrecked sailors here. Many different groups. Not even the first people.

[@Colin_Izer1111]

Ancient Celtic NZ.

[@DouglasFir90]

Fuck yeah, I'm celtic, therefore the UN should be forcing govt to give me gibs as the real indigenous race of nz

[@kotukuwhakapiko467]

2 speciesof bat-short tail , long tail. (Dolphins are mammals ...( potential other native mammals?)

[@jasonyoung1230]

@@Colin_Izer1111ask anyone up Dargaville way

[@lindamckenzie6500]

Good on our Winston..you can see why other political parties dislike him so much...Winston tells it as it is ...and the truth ...l support him too in his announcment that the Maori are not the indigenous people of NZ ..the Maoriori were here before them...and there is a suggestion that there were other races here before them...l remember reading a very detailed book 30 years ago and it explained how the Maori arrived here...

[@erina4586]

Do some more Research.

[@dartagnanngarangione4346]

@@W61K what a load of shit this is Māori land always has been and always will be 😂😂

[@alhippo2026]

On the Kon Tiki Bote

[@MatuaKiwi]

people dislike him because he is a man who lied from the start new zealand doesnt have a constitution this isnt america bro. Also the United nations declaration does not give more rights to indeginous people it stops colonizers from completely eradicationg indeginous culture and stops the complete annexation of indigenous land by government

[@rabidL3M0NS]

Man you’re ignorant, the Moriori are the indigenous people of Rēkohu the Chatham Islands, what on earth have you been reading? 😂

[@Youthwithin01]

Does this mean that Maori need to pay Michael laws?

[@ronnymcdonald2543]

If you want to be pedantic you can find interpretations of the word "Indigenous" that mean simply being born in a particular region/nation ... Under that interpretation all Kiwis born here no matter the race are "Indigenous"

[@Osprey6m]

Winston is right. Māori a not indigenous in the classic meaning. They may have rights but they are not indigenous rights.

[@mr2981]

Treaty of Waitangi entitles them to the same treatment as every other subject of the crown. Doesn't seem like it should be controversial except for people who have an incentive to claim otherwise.

[@Innerlight320]

Please tell me the classic meaning 😂

[@shoutatthesky]

@@Innerlight320 "Originating, or occurring naturally in a particular place".

[@stevenroberts2490]

@@Innerlight320lock it up in the dictionary it means was always in a place not migrated

[@Innerlight320]

@@shoutattheskythat’s about plants 😂

[@helenskelton8926]

Winston is 100% right. Both National and Act should back Winston on this and put an end to the Māori claims they are indigenous and have special rights over others. In doing so National and ACT would put NZ back on track to being a fully democratic country based on one person on vote.

[@kotukuwhakapiko467]

Mate ya falling for it...this is distraction politics...blah blah look at the bad maoris they will give them the land back...buy we won't, vote us....meanwhile nz is already sold to China black rock. What you fighting maori talk for ? We need oil refineries, own nz gold backed dollar...this is what politicians should only be talking about and what the public should want and care about...!?

[@bronwynsearle2117]

Yes agree 💯👍

[@Innerlight320]

@@user-ky2xo2ls4mwhy ..? For a start the leader doesn’t know the meaning of indigenous 😂

[@Innerlight320]

Not sure they need to claim they are They Are Sherlock 😂

[@RōraKereopa]

Māori people were here over 600 years before the first europeans, if we aren’t indigenous then pakeha may as well be a bunch of immigrants

[@tb7977]

He is correct

[@danielcleary6819]

Perplexing question..... considering everyone that came here way back then came by some sort of boat.

[@saregama-r8td]

There is nothing wrong with upholding Māori culture and language and acknowledge that Māori migrated from the Islands before the British discovered NZ, 900 years is not a short time, that's six or so generations. Surely by now this should not be a political football, otherwise what the hell has all the Māori in Parliament been doing this whole time. Oh, that's right, lining their pockets. I'm with Winston he knows what he's talking about when it comes to Māori corruption and lies. This should not be a topic for discussion if the dim wits in parliament were there serving their people. Māori language and culture has thrived thanks to Winnie back in the day.

[@overover..]

You mean 16 generations? 150 years per generation is a bit of a stretch, but I get your point

[@saregama-r8td]

@@overover.. Thanks!

[@saregama-r8td]

@@FelixTweezer It's really not. Perhaps when immigrants become the majority and run parliament maybe Hindu, Muslim take your pick then it really won't matter who is indigenous. But for now, your point is invalid and stupid.

[@Rodtang-x5z]

Generations are measured between 25 and 30 years...most apply the 25 year time frame...

[@tararuaman]

800 years

[@antihebrew]

Maori just want other people's stuff.

[@francisheperi4180]

😊

[@annekevandenberg1635]

Covered it all in six words!

[@antihebrew]

@@annekevandenberg1635 most people get it when they get rolled outside 4 Square.

[@proanimator.]

What a moronic statement. You took all of their land. You took their language from them. Yet, you continue to ostracise and belittle them. No wonder this country is so divided

[@dartagnanngarangione4346]

This is our land always has been and always will be

[@judyirving7631]

Winston is an absolute ledgend. Kia kaha dude. You speak the truth for all of us.

[@robintamihere4550]

DREAMER!!!

[@paulwhitehead4449]

Truth is, they were chucked out of their home because they were violent cannibals, and they drifted down and arrived by luck in New Zealand. Nothing special there.

[@winstonsmithsoul]

That’s the oral history I heard from Rarotongan’s. They were bad people chased away.

[@annekevandenberg1635]

The truth hurts sometimes...Ouch!

[@richardmorley4223]

Good on him honestly truth love it

[@TheLincolnrailsplitt]

I love to hear contrarian views even if I don't necessarily agree with it. Good stuff, Mr Peters.

[@njd2342]

Contrarian? Winston is 100% right.

[@leelabella7357]

Yes, he is right. Sadly his view is still contrarian by all accounts.

[@adsdft585]

All people travelled to NZ but is true to the world. People walked from Africa to many parts of the World.

[@annekevandenberg1635]

True origins.

[@hildashaw213]

Maoris are not indigenous to New Zealand and my husband who is like Winston, a Maori agrees. In fact I think they are not all the same race either. The Maori Party and others want to turn NZ into a country where Maoris are treated like children. It would be like Australia, where there is overreach by the government into the lives of the indigenous people. It happens in the US too. The government needs to realise they work for the people, not the other way round.

[@robintamihere4550]

Native Title, Indigenous Native Title, Aboriginal Native Title, all stated on land deeds proclaiming Maori's ownership of land back in the 1800s by the British Monarchy. This alone is recognition Maori are Indigenous, SO GET OVER YOURSELF.

[@jamesc3505]

@@robintamihere4550: Technically, I don't think Māori are indigenous to New Zealand. I think indigenous means their ancestors arrived here naturally, e.g. by wandering over a land bridge, and they developed the way they are, racially and culturally, here. That's true of the Aborigines in Australia, but I don't think it's true of the Māori in New Zealand. I think they arrived here intentionally, i.e. they were settlers/colonists. And I think racially and culturally they're very much Polynesians, e.g. similarities with language and religion are very evident, and, like other Polynesians, they recognise a common original homeland, Hawaiki. I don't think that's a bad thing, though, and I don't think it's relevant at all, either. They're still the first nations peoples of New Zealand.

[@robintamihere4550]

@@jamesc3505 You live in a world of make believe and fantasy. It's time you woke up to the real world out there. All governments are controlled by the world Elite, i.e., the Chase, Rothchild's, Rockerfellers, Morgans, Builderberg Group, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Gates, and many many more, Let me educate you, the Christchurch earthquakes these wankers are responsible for. Don't believe me watch who caused the Christchurch quakes .... #Whistleblower Unveils The World's Largest Directed Energy Weapon | The Antarctica Earthquake Weapon & Doom Tech | USA's earthquake weapon, Nikola Tesla's design, HAARP truth: conspiracy theory decoded Than research - ''HAARP'' at Geophysical Institute at UAF UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA FAIRBANKS the Earthquake and Tsunami Hazards Program, Alaska Division of Geological & Geophysical Surveys, 907-451-5974, [e-mail] Christchurch Shootings is another. Now whatever dream you have get over it, Maori are the Indigenous people of NZ, as recognized by England in 1840 Maori land shares are recorded as ''NATIVE TITLES''. The U.N. has Maori recorded as the Sovereign people of NZ, that's Indigenous & Native people of NZ. #And here is a little #GEM that will rattle your dead brain cells. The NZ Government is a #CORPORATION registered at the U.S. Exchange Commission. So when you elect MPs to Parliament you are actually electing CEOs to take their positions on a Corporate Board of the NZ Company aka Government.

[@AskingforAIfriend]

We know we weren't we are the inheritors? We feed yous we were given knowledge of stars the seasons herbs and plants ???? But a nzer who just joins this country don't know how to swim ????

[@porkeywings]

If Maori arent indigenous then nobody is. They were here for 800 years, pakeha have been here for 150, Maori took care of this land while Pakeha have destroyed it. If your family took care of land for 800 years i think youd see yourself as its owner too

[@operatorsix6933]

stop handing them billions and assets, RECOVER IT ALL......

[@bronwynsearle2117]

Yep, then we can build our roads and rail and move forward...

[@annekevandenberg1635]

Needs based,not race based. Ethnic demands are ruining NZ!

[@dartagnanngarangione4346]

We don’t get billions unlike your people 😂😂

[@MycoolNZ]

Agreed

[@MycoolNZ]

Dart.. you also don't earn it.

[@prosperity8]

That was brilliant. You are such a learned man. I have been including that in comments for months now. National got us into this mess by stealth. I thought everyone knew it was Pita Sharples who did it Australia is dealing with the Voice now. I have also promoted recognition of the Moriori and their creed of peace and their genocide. Colonisation of their land by Maori was not enough it had to be annihilation. No reparation from them. They are seeking a Moriori Language Week. There is a petition circulating for it. Our household remembers your work on the seabed and foreshore as well. It was great hearing your pride in your work and belief in what you were doing. The Gold Card was appreciated. It was great the other day when you talked about both Maori and NZ women being first in the world to get the vote and Maori men having it so early on. But it doesn't seem to matter to many any more. Thank you both

[@MatuaKiwi]

so two maori tribes were picked up and dropped off in Chatham islands in 1835 by a pakeha trade ship thats how they got there and the reason maori were taken there by the pakeha is because of war created by the pakeha, As for the rights to vote they should of been given from the start.

[@prosperity8]

@@MatuaKiwi dreamer

[@sueelliott4793]

Winston is the only one with the balls to have his honest say. Judge a person by his actions, we don't want to go the way of South Africa with an apartheid mentality. None of us lived over 100 years ago, we are not responsible for it.

[@johnshanks251]

Winston does not have to defend his views . Winston is correct correct correct !

[@howlsatdesertmoon9840]

All the lie of Maori indigeneity has achieved is to exacerbate a grievance culture in some within the Maori community.

[@DW_Kiwi]

In South Canterbury there are caves with ancient marking on the walls. They look very much like the markings on the Chatham Islands trees. I seen both. Moriori ?? When I was a kid (70 years ago) when I first saw the local ones, no one was interested in these markings in South Canterbury. As far as Im aware the local Maori was not even aware they were there!! Its only in the most recent times that Maori have claimed them as their own!!

[@bac5040]

Those drawings are Chinese.

[@Natalie-rr2fj]

They are Waitaha (who also predate maori)

[@yogibear4682]

the south island maori are north island invaders who stole the south island for themselves and now claim it

[@kiwia8271]

They left China about 1260, got here some time after Able Tasmam and before James Cook.

[@mr2981]

No they got here a couple hundred years before Abel Tasman, or they wouldn't have been able to kill four of his men. They still aren't indigenous though.

[@Eohippus100]

Taiwan not china

[@TheRinolander]

@@Eohippus100 Have you ever seen a Taiwan Passport? Go google and see the cover, it says "Republic of China".... ROC

[@annekevandenberg1635]

And came across some pale men living with Moriori. Lost sailors?

[@kiwia8271]

@@Eohippus100 DNA mapping leads to China.

[@5150show]

I suspect a few party votes will be changing

[@annekevandenberg1635]

Like the weather mate...like the weather.

[@annekevandenberg1635]

R.I.P Moriori.

[@wellput1015]

What do you mean,is Mike laws dead,no,moriori are alive an well,

[@chriskiwi2601]

Maori can see the gravy train slipping between their fingers this coming election. 😅

[@paton57]

Bet Chri-cinda Lux-dern suck up to them just like Labour, hesfull of shit and will do anything to have power he's no different to Ardern, he's already robbing Peter to pay Paul by putting the $5 prescription fee back on to pay for his big speel on cancer treatment, so the money isn't there like he states

[@whatthe6532]

Well Willie Jackson anyway. He thought he was going to be King of his new wonderful democracy. Bah humbug.

[@erina4586]

Another one who hates Maori People. Listen here, Racist Chriskiwi2061, you can see the Land slipping between your feet come Judgement Day!😂

[@dartagnanngarangione4346]

What a load of 💩💩

[@peterwilson7340]

Winston Peters is a champion for all of us. Always telling the truth about everything. Well spoken and very knowlegable about all maori topics. Possibly knows more than 99% of the rest of them. A hero and a saint to us all.

[@esmestrydom9079]

I agree with Winston. I wish Luxon would research!!

[@Sadder302]

Your a legend Winston

[@annekevandenberg1635]

So is his horse now.

[@philippaanderson3882]

Finally the truth is being heard 🙌

[@dufus7396]

He has a valid point ..can we rename back to Mt Egmont now please

[@realitytime1198]

Just lying generally about being indigenous is bad enough but lying to your youth, to your future is unforgivable.

[@irishpete5472]

Go Winston.

[@helenaconnor5397]

When I went to school the history books taught Moriori were the indigenous ones, eaten and wiped out by the canoes arriving with invaders from the islands In the North. Suddenly by Expo 88 in Brisbane… Māori were the First Nation, fished up by some mythical ancestor. Finally someone prepared to leave unicorns and fairy dust to speak the truth. Good on you Winston Peters.

[@eeeaten]

yes, because the myth that moriori were the first people was debunked, and what you got taught was made up nonsense from pakeha ethnographer percy smith. learn your history and stop embarrassing yourself.

[@helenaconnor5397]

Just checking… nope… not embarrassed

[@eeeaten]

@@helenaconnor5397 look it up. i recommend the te ara online encyclopedia article for moriori, or michael king's history of nz, or maui solomon's moriori: still setting the record straight. get yourself informed.

[@danielbroughton6880]

​@@helenaconnor5397That's because you'd rather be ignorant and see what you want to see. Mori Ori were not here first and are a branch of Maori culture (A peaceful one). If you're going to bring up history, please educate yourself on the entire matter before stating your comments. Otherwise you're just a misinformed lie spreader, Kia Pai te Ra

[@0075KP]

WOW Another racist!!! White supremacy is alive and kicking in NZ

[@DavidAnderson-ps3rp]

Excellent interview, Michael . Your quick thinking was fun listening on talk back. What a good argument, N.Z. First has made ! I was Labour, Greens, but after listening to this interview, I've studied all the political policies and am now voting Natioal - N.Z First. Cheers David.

[@MatuaKiwi]

youd reallt vote for Nz 1st a party that would see maori culture eradiated by colonization along with the annexation of maori lands by government

[@DavidAnderson-ps3rp]

Your pionts are a concern that comes up often. To purchase New Zealand, the true cost would be in the triIions of dollars. I think one way to be honest and respectful about land payments past , now and the future would be ; Every time a purchase of land is made, either government, private, or commercial That a 5% fee is paid to the local Maori tribe. This payment would be made for every purchase forever and ever , On going. This would eventually repay the real cost of land stolen or underpaid after a few hundred years and offer a rent for the land in a way of tribute in the future. This money would give financial independence to Maori and enable them to plan their own destiny . I spock to Willy Jackson on the topic as an idea, and he and others have said it would solve the financial arrangements. David Anderson Canterbury

[@MatuaKiwi]

tell me how removing Maori from UNDRIP isn't tyranny, tell me how trying to strip Maori of their indigeneity isn't tyranny, tell me how suppressing the Maori language while legislating the English language into education for over 200 years isn't tyranny, Tell me how outlawing Maori facial tattoos isn't tyranny

[@MatuaKiwi]

@@DavidAnderson-ps3rp problem is govenment doesnt purhase maori land it annexes it or "borrows" it and never gves it back

[@DavidAnderson-ps3rp]

@MatuaKiwi The thinking or culture had to change to ; Yes, the land was borrowed or stolen. Now we have to fix the wrong. I believe in us all being equal, but I am angry at the stolen maori lands or bad deals. To solve a fix a wrong , sorry is not enough. We must be truly honest and genuine in our new vision as a mixed peoples. 5% of all purchases should be made to local Maori tribes on going, for ever. One to eventually pay back the true amount Of purchases, which would be trillions of dollars. Then, as a rent for my relatives Planting themselves in to New Zealand. To me there has to be a two way respect. Well, never have full and final settlement otherwise. Our family arrived in 1870s , pushed off there farm land as tenants. David Anderson Canterbury

[@mjanny6330]

"We were the greatest traveller's the Pacific had ever seen! Great voyages from our native lands and down to Aotearoa!......oh yeah, but we're also native to Aotearoa"

[@winstonsmithsoul]

Gold medal levels of cognitive dissonance :)

[@jame2433]

The point is they settled here prior to the English, and we signed a treaty. It’s that simple

[@Rokker61]

Yes - a treaty in two different languages with different understandings and interpretations, signed nearly 200 years ago and people today think they know what was meant or understood by those at the time. How ridiculous is that! The Treaty is outdated and meaningless because of its duplicity and needs to be scrapped. The Maori "elite" need to stop indoctrinating common Maori people with this insulting "victim-of-colonialism" mentality and, instead, start empowering them to function in our modern New Zealand society, just as 10,000 Maori are successfully doing right now in the U.K. We are all colonists here. Collins Dictionary: colony (ˈkɒlənɪ) n. Word forms: plural -nies 1. a body of people who settle in a country distant from their homeland but maintain ties with it. 2. the community formed by such settlers.

[@Joeseph-t2e]

Actually we didnt sign the treaty the British did...Throw out the treaty and lets get back to fighting and sort this shit out for once and for all.

[@5150show]

One New Zealand

[@josiewielders2330]

Kia kaha Hon. Winston Peters! This is the only man that listens and generally cares about all of us!Common NZ wake up! If you want to improve NZ for all New Zealanders vote NZ First!🎉💜

[@eeeaten]

obvious con artist manipulator

[@LHNA130]

Everyone should look into ‘New Zealand loyal’

[@charlotteweber9466]

Liz Gunn who decided to split the freedom vote and ensure none of the freedom parties get in as there were already 11 of them all vying for the same voter base. She wasn't around in 2020 no she was virtue signaling stay home save lives and advertising every trend going at the time with her Facebook profile surrounds. She is trained media and a professional at PR and people won't allow her to be questioned or challenged and think she is the saviour. She acts like the single source of truth. Every time I listen to her I get raised hairs as she gives me Jacinda vibes, school marm nanny state feelings. I have learned to trust my gut and not just jump in, I'm now discerning and evaluate everything. It was her that made me look at NZF as I knew when she did that there was no hope for any freedom party to get in. I then embarked on a full investigation journey into NZ First and what I found was soooooo many lies and a real smear campaign by the media and the National Party to cast doubt and ensure his mandate was always weakened. Every accusation is programmed and there's about 6 that get thrown around and the interesting pattern is everyone uses the same words. I have been able to debunk every single one of them. Remember those that are persecuted the most are usually the ones fighting back. He has been fighting against the beast his entire career and kiwis are too stupid and sucked into propaganda to see it. We have an awful lot of things we take for granted that we owe him a great deal of gratitude for. Now we know the wasted votes then get apportioned to the remaining seats propping up the two party system we cannot afford to split our votes and weaken the resistance that is the only party that can get in. Remember NZF has a party full of Freedom types membership and candidates. This is the final chance for this country.

[@launchsquid]

If Maori are indigenous to NZ than White Europeans are indigenous to the Antarctic. Just because you're people got somewhere first it doesn't mean that you are indigenous.

[@TheRinolander]

Kiwi birds are

[@marcussteele8437]

Maui was first to visit Antarctica. Not England

[@user-bw5nc]

Right, now that's sorted, next on the agenda would be to stop classifying/dividing our citizens by race, that was ok in the 1800s, not so much in 2023.

[@charlotteweber9466]

Exactly what he's trying to do, we are all Kiwi's

[@user-bw5nc]

@@charlotteweber9466 If it does go through, my next expectation, would be to do away with negative statistics concerning Maori..ie: prison statistics and crime statistics, if we are all equal as New Zealanders . I have a funny feeling, many wouldn't be on board with that?? It's a waste of time otherwise. I find it weird, how someone can be mostly European, but they end up in the negative Maori statistics..... it's bs.

[@charlotteweber9466]

@@user-bw5nc just do away with determining race and refer to kiwis, problem solved

[@user-bw5nc]

@@charlotteweber9466 We can only hope Charlotte 🙂

[@dartagnanngarangione4346]

It was alright when it was beneficial to white people now its no longer beneficial to you people it’s not alright, what a surprise 😂😂

[@BeHarpazoReady]

God bless Winston. May God bless you, protect you, direct your path, go before you and make crooked paths straight, advise you, keep you, shine His face upon you. Amen and amen. 🙏🙏🙏

[@eeeaten]

wacky

[@BeHarpazoReady]

@@eeeaten what's also fantastic is scripture repeatedly makes it clear that heaven is a realm of unsurpassed joy, unfading glory, undiminished bliss, unlimited delights, and unending pleasures. It will be a perfect existence. We will have unbroken fellowship with all heavens inhabitants. Life there will be devoid of any sorrows, cares, fear, or pain. Maranatha 👑

[@eeeaten]

@@BeHarpazoReady so you’re saying… ooga booga magical faeries sky spirit orgasmatron?

[@jasonfray]

They came from Asia!

[@annekevandenberg1635]

All lumped in with Polynesia.

[@rachelabbott9393]

I think Scott Morrison is about to find that out Winston!

[@annekevandenberg1635]

Don't mention the Moriori!

[@silenthawkstudios9924]

I was only going to vote for NZF because I want to destroy the National coalition from the inside. But Winston actually has some great points ngl.

[@tearohakathleenmatangi1668]

You are so right Winston Maori people are not indigenous

[@willem1642]

The whole concept of indigenous is meaningless. People have been migrating back and forth across the planet for tens of thousands of years, replacing or assimiating or destroying the previous region's occupants.

[@hospitalcleaner]

By this logic Japan could invade NZ, take over everything, send millions over here, and force everyone to learn Japanese, and then when the NZ population complains they are struggling to get ahead, Japanese could argue that everyone gets equal rights and they should just assimilate into the new culture.

[@lukegoatley8501]

Good to have a bit of real-world reality

[@Innerlight320]

Sorry you still dreamin 😂

[@StellaHoyles]

Well said Winston!

[@MycoolNZ]

Peter's is the man!!!! Stick it to them.

[@JohnDoe-tn6dk]

He Maori ahau, (I am Maori) and I don't have a problem with what Winston is saying, he's right we did come from Hawaiki. It's a favored story of ours and showed our values about what's important to us. It's there to remember where we came from, where we landed and where we are going. As deduced by our pepeha and our whakapapa. A wise Kuia (Grandmother) once told me, "we don't own this land, we are simply kaitiaki (Guardians)." I love my countrymen, all Maori and Kiwi's alike. I'm sorry these radicals have caused a bad image for us, but I promise you most of us don't think this way. We still hold hope for a united country, pressing on stronger issues then what is currently presented.

[@eeeaten]

Of course Māori came from hawaiki. They were the first people of nz, before the colonists, and are therefore indigenous.

[@ProximaCentairi24]

I would love to see stronger rights for Maori to claim support from their tribes who in many cases have received billions of dollars in claim settlements. Is legislation needed? More transparency needed so ordinary non-connected Maori can benefit.

[@chrisblewden1712]

You got it right Winston ...The fact is the truth about who was here first is not in the interest of the MAORI billshit ..

[@29Ni8]

Michael just jumped the line ahead of Winnie with the whakapapa

[@robertmccabe8632]

Adam and Eve is my whakapapa.

[@29Ni8]

@robertmccabe8632 okay nothing wrong with that

[@Anonymouse405]

Got some Nephylim and Anunaki dna's hear! 🖖😁🖤

[@beew106]

If you did, you'd be amongst the elites and born into the royal familiy or the Rockefeller's or the like. 😀@@Anonymouse405

[@briansatchell2319]

By God. Winston sure has a good memory of things New Zealand

[@Anonymouse405]

Things of God hmmm not sure🤔💛

[@stampsplusltd670]

Massively interesting and very educational too. This all begs the question as to whether or not there is a third force, (probably outside of New Zealand), that foments racial disharmony - in New Zealand. Imagine if the money that is spent on perpetuating racial separation and disharmony was instead invested into total integration - for all New Zealanders! Maori descentants are a great people, descendants of the European settlors are great folk too, not to mention the remnants of the peaceful and indigineous Moriori! Lets forget about the various waka that landed on these shores by different people at different times. Can we not instead embrace, "tahi ka pai ake tatou" (together we are better)? In conclusion, our beautiful national anthem has the phrase, "God defend New Zealand"! May it be so.

[@erina4586]

Well said👍but, there is 1 problem, Rascism, Insults, Unfair Treatment Prison System Detrimental, against our Maori People and disregarding Maori Language has to STOP! We need a Meeting!

[@teevis3620]

If there is, and as a maori male in my mid 60s l can see someone such as George Soros funding fomentation of vthat ideology. I seriously started to notice those offshoot American liberal leaning ideological influences popping up here in New Zealand. Jacinda Aderns association with the WEF is also something New Zealanders needed to be conscious of. Klaus Schwab and his cronies can exert influence in circles that can have added negative impact on the local economy. Groups such as Blackrock are another looking to exert influences that can affect local markets.

[@SteveHilliarphotography]

CORRECT, CORRECT, CORRECT.

[@georgemooyman7155]

Doesn't matter if they are Indigenous or not. When the treaty was signed, the Maori chiefs gave up Maori sovereignty to the crown. All people living in NZ are equal, same law and privileges apply to all.

[@thedarklordofthejougan4990]

Soo that means all people in nz should say thank you,

[@robintamihere4550]

NO THEY DID NOT.

[@Christina1Love]

They never ceded their sovereignty. Read the Treaty. Their consent is needed for everything going on today.

[@robintamihere4550]

No they did not dude.

[@georgemooyman7155]

​@robintamihere4550 I have read several books on the treaty and it's meaning, and they all indicate that we are one people and one nattion. The last book I read was by Apirana Ngata and he is saying the same as well. Can you suggest something something I can read to support your view? I am genuinely interested.

[@user-rv9ml6wh5q]

Great podcast WP

[@fruitinprogress]

Its how undrip is used for political benefit since 2019 under Mahutas whanau rewriting of it that has become the relevant problem NZ is facing now, not about the well-intentioned and fairly benign history of how it started because it wpuld be weaponised still now regardless of the key govt just trying to ‘do the right thing’ for Maori at the time

[@robintamihere4550]

KEY WAS DEAD AGAINST SIGNING THE UNDRIP INTO FORCE FOR NZ. KEY JOINED AN ALLIANCE WITH AUSTRALIA AND CANADA CALLED ''CANZ'' TO FIGHT THE SIGNING. MY HOW PEOPLE FORGET.

[@kathygurnick6014]

he is right

[@GhostOfArtBell0935]

Well....yes. They are not indigenous and do originate in East Asia. They are however, barring any major bombshell evidence to the contrary, the first settlers of the land. Keep in mind that the term indigenous has been given a newspeak definition by academics and organisations like the UN, now focusing more on being a victim of colonisation- indigenous peoples day in Europe for example recognises the Sami and maybe the Basque and ignores the vast majority of indigenous White Europeans.

[@Colin_Izer1111]

Yip the quiet changing of definitions just like they changed the definition of v-ccine in 2020.

[@CelestialInsights]

they certainly aren't the first settlers of the land, there have been many previous settlers on these islands, the government know it, there is a plethora of embargoed information sitting in hidden vaults in various museums around the country, embargoes until 2065! enough time to get the whole maori take over done and dusted before the real truth can be told. this is well worth the watch, there are many others you can view as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnOpoXqXrrV0itUsi=o4_7ukRFfLez3YEI

[@nzdeb100]

I actually agree with Winston .

[@glennwr450]

At least someone is talking sense, unfortunately Whinny putting labour into power back in the day hurt his party badly

[@bigboy0625]

Time for ask for all them billions back from them then. This is the best news of 2023 they are not even from NEW ZEALAND thats been well documented. The Greek and Egyptian people where here 1000s of years ago from the stuff that has been found. The British should ask for a refund 😂

[@proanimator.]

Racist nonsense. There’s zero evidence anyone was here before Māori. You’re spreading white supremacist propaganda

[@dartagnanngarangione4346]

Sources?

[@miggy8011]

For once Winston is correct.

[@Innerlight320]

Hard no , currently still wrong about everything

[@annekevandenberg1635]

Innerlight needs a stronger bulb.

[@phillipmurray1724]

The consummate politician. Give him your votes 🙂

[@Silenced01]

Old Winnie is bang on the money and anyone with a iq higher than room temperature and a open mind will know that Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand and never have been. They came here roughly 800 years ago on a boats after previously being in Chile (which is where they got the kumara from) and before that they were in Hawaii and originally they came from the pacific Islands near Samoa, this information is all available for anyone to read at Te papa, the kauri museum and I'm sure up at Waitangi as well. Or if you can't move from the couch just use Google. Heck I learnt this in history class at school and just thought it was common knowledge.