These Supercars Will Bankrupt You

[@fourwheeltrader]

🚗 Check out the auctions at Sotheby's Motorsport 🚗 bit.ly/3Rey7po

[@kingsmark965]

Does the auction platform accept international vehicles?

[@fourwheeltrader]

@@kingsmark965 International sellers are not accepted untill next year but international bidders are already welcome.

[@ricsu3462]

These analysis just got better and better. No longer benchmarked in a vacuum, love the big picture across makes and models

[@rlstrad2059]

My local Mercedes dealership took in a two year old loaded Aston V8 Vantage. Drop dead gorgeous. Had it on the block for $120k for about eight months, finally sold it for 99K. Original MSRP around $180 K. So sure, tons of depreciation. But for buyers, absolute right car to buy.

[@applelegos]

I think 4.0 Vantage numbers are just really good now. Following recent trends, I traded in my 2015 older Vantage for a 2019 and could not be happier. Value for the money is great considering comparable 911s in that price segment. The infotainment is a miss but replacing that with CarPlay solves all problems.

[@fourwheeltrader]

I agree, they start to offer great value for money.

[@mufflejoy]

Given that many young "collectors" finance their purchases, with higher interest rates this is only going to get worse as they stop making profits on their KZbin dreams.

[@mg-by7uu]

Don't worry they'll drop rates back to 0 and print another 10 trillion soon enough

[@navyrotc2012]

Okay boomer

[@mufflejoy]

@@navyrotc2012 🙂 - this boomer never went bankrupt and paid his cars in cash. We can all have our own ideals, mine is financial freedom from having to talk with a bank advisor (sales person)

[@whatdoesnt]

Step 1: Make enough money to go bankrupt by buying a supercar Step 2: Buy Supercar Step 3: Go bankrupt 😢still stuck on step 1

[@dash-ryan]

I always thought the AMG GT 4 door, Taycan and MC20 were overpriced. Dealerships in Canada are still trying to overcharge for these cars. Don't fall for it. Wait and you'll see the prices drop like a stone in 18 months. Another one I predict that will collapse in price on the used market is the new AMG SL, not because it's a bad car but because Merc lost its mind in charging over $200k for it. It's not THAT good. Wait 24 months and I'm certain used SL's will be worth half the price.

[@JGGTRCALI]

Excellent videos - only getting better I like this new style.

[@luxylando]

I would like to see a video on the Lucid Air market. Great job on the videos, I love them! I always look for the McLaren and Cayman market updates.

[@MrSchn3ll]

Any EV startup is like playing Russian Roulette. The financials for Lucid / Rivian / Fisker, etc. are scary. The burn rate of their cash is unsustainable and I wouldn't touch their cars. They are rolling supercomputers and when these high priced RC cars go belly-up, good luck fixing them. The proprietary body components are already insanely high to fix due to the complexity and low production. They are for suckers.

[@sburns2421]

We are in a moment of flux. Going from low inflation, low interest rates, people with extra money, and somewhat limited supply of desirable cars for these people. Now the situation appears to be relatively high inflation, a return to historic interest rates, no PPP or other free stimulus. And every manufacturer has several "sports car" models that the ignorant think will just go up up up. Or worst case keep their value. The car market generally has a lot of inertia, economic changes do not immediately reflect by higher or lower prices. We are in that lag time now. The really desirable cars (even newish cars like 599GTO or GT3RS) will do better than the standard models. But the guy who bought a normal 911 Turbo or Gallardo in the last two years that thinks his car will always hold its value is going to be in for a very rude awakening.

[@JGGTRCALI]

Do the Nissan GT-R next please. This car has had very interesting price trends since Covid and has a lot of model years/generations to cover and has a lot of trims.

[@dfw10000]

Always well-researched, well produced, and entertaining

[@CTP1111]

Big reason Vantage values have declined so much is that they flooded the 2020 and 2021 market with cheap leases after they went public and they have been coming back to market before people realize what good cars they are

[@martinsolodky6167]

Very informative video. Only thing is regarding the 812 GTS. Many have an MSRP of ~500k, so the price drop of $112k to Mid 600’s is still above MSRP, and many original owners are still up 100k+. Other than that, I agree with everything else!

[@OviWanKeno9i]

Nice video! Found this randomly. I love cars and I'm thinking of getting either a used LC500 or a new Lotus Emira. Would I hit depreciation hard with either one of those? They're both amazing, but would love the Emira more for the manual. My daily is a C7 A6 tuned to 500 some hp and Bilstein suspension. I love it and I will keep it forever if I can, but would love to get a more special car and those two are exciting to me.

[@mikajo]

Can’t believe no McLaren’s made the list.

[@fourwheeltrader]

Most McLarens lost more than the average during last year, but only a few more than 14%. I posted a McLaren market update not too long ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppLCgJhrqthkj8k

[@Durrah1]

Do you think the f12 will gain value soon or not yet?

[@sutherlacd27]

I do. It's one of the last NA v12 Ferraris.

[@filiberto2266]

100% value up

[@patrickbanick2174]

Love the f12 think it’s better looking than the 812. Will for sure appreciate

[@VanderlayLux]

Good video. Please can we get a Lambo update, with a focus on the Aventador? You could have a new thematic series on depreciation outcomes when cars are replaced. I wanted to know your thoughts on Aventador pricing now that the Revuelto is out. Thanks and good work.

[@therealgaragegirls]

We test-drove a Taycan in 2021. Amazing car. But no way was I going to buy one new. I *knew* prices would quickly tank on them. We'll probably scoop up a Cross Turismo in the next couple of years.

[@Bob-in4eh]

Bought a 15 Calit T after watching your 2022 information and multiple videos. Had a 21 C8 HTC and while great cars for the money , the quality is not even close to my 15 Cali T which in my opinion is way more comfortable and Handel if and speed is equal to the Vett . I expect they still depreciate but love the car just curious what the update might be on these . Higher interest rates certainly affect used cars I am sure . Great channel

[@reaver9]

How come Panamera 971 GTS is always priced above the regular Turbo? Hisotorically Turbo is the more expensive model, you won’t tell me that all these GTS are so heavilly loaded with options.

[@keithdempster482]

Please do a analysis on the un loved Ferrari 456 market. Thanks

[@DavidBrown-bs7gg]

Depreciation is the least of your worries with the 456, it'll be running costs that kill you, like the very weak steering rack that costs tens of thousands to replace

[@josephwestfall6844]

No I don’t know, what does the Vantage have the 911 doesn’t have, except a V8?

[@Drarek88]

very good, the EU market is the same of US? Can you doit with huracan and aventador? thanks

[@PhileasFogg1969]

Interesting video and surprised about the huge depreciation for the Taycan. What about the older generation Aston Martin Vantage V8 and V12 ? Do you expect these to become classics and raise in value especially the manual versions ?

[@patrickbanick2174]

Manual ones for sure will appreciate over the long term

[@poultz413]

Is depreciation necessarily a bad thing? For example, the f-type v8's have dropped in value. But surely this means that you can pick up a second hand 2021 model on the cheap! Or is this still a negative as it will continue to depreciate faster than the rest of the market? I'm only asking as I'm looking to buy a 2021 f-type v8, there super cheap rn

[@troyr3478]

My 2017 BMW 540 is nowhere near supercar territory...but it's continual repair costs should put it on this list.

[@SAMMYJR00777]

can you make a video for 928 S4 and 944S cars?

[@ZDY66666]

Should I trade in my 981 Cayman GTS for a 991.2 GT3? Both are dropping but since GT3 has a higher sticker price, each % of drop is great in dollar value versus my cayman where dropping 10% is just $10k

[@butlr732]

I would. The 981 has a 4 cylinder right? 718 brought back the flat 6 that is much more highly regarded. I love caymans but there’s also a lot of people out there that would never consider one over a 911

[@sutherlacd27]

Is the Cayman a manual or pdk? I believe it's still a flat 6 in the 981 right? If its a manual flat 6 keep it. Unless you're getting a manual gt3. If they are both pdk then get the gt3

[@shelloiluk]

@@butlr732981’is a 6 718 is a four apart from the newer 718 4.0. I’ve had 5 Porsches. Latest is a 992 911 GTS as crashed my 992 911 S

[@ceo_Angelop]

I love this video! Just bought a Roma and a Urus 😂 I did get killer deals on both. Urus in 250k range and a pearl capsule and also Roma with a 315 sticker for 260. Probably lose a good 30-40 on the Roma but the urus should hold over $240 or so.

[@The0rs]

What is happening with Lotus? Emiras selling above rrp but older cars still cheap compared to similar from other marques.

[@fourwheeltrader]

I am working on a lotus market update, more on this in the upcoming months

[@Jay-xr3sb]

Emira is below rrp, nearly new cars with sub 1000 miles

[@The0rs]

@@Jay-xr3sb Interesting. Not long ago they were being advertised above rrp. I'm talking about UK.

[@GTC4cam]

@@fourwheeltrader regarding Lotus I suspect your confidence intervals will be very wide. Thinly traded, highly idiosyncratic, hard to measure with statistics, easier to look at individual comps like a conventional appraisal.

[@kerrnni4814]

Kindly asking, what is your view on the aventador s coupe’s price curve? I currently own a 18 model year and is considering selling it in the near future, is that a good financial move?

[@tw8438]

Was surprised to see the Panamera Turbo S depreciate less than the S and the GTS. Really surprised by the GTS depreciation rate. Is the Turbo S depreciating less because there isn’t many of them? Don’t get me wrong as they are still depreciating higher than the average.

[@SurviveTheDay]

What never depreciates is the cost of ownership. Parts, maintenance, shop costs, insurance, gas, etc. Get yourself a financial planner and be smart with your money. Just remember depreciating assets are bad for wealth.

[@tuomasholo]

The watch market went crazy as well. Now prices are dropping.

[@FrankGallagherr]

Car market is going to crash hard!

[@rlstrad2059]

Why

[@sutherlacd27]

Nope. Due to COVID the market ended up losing millions of vehicles that would have normally been in circulation and that is going to keep vehicle prices up

[@wiretrap1035]

Cars should be used as vehicles. Not investment vehicles.

[@GoesSlow]

Would love to see a video on the Huracan Performante.

[@better20]

used panameras are great cars to drive and own

[@wymy1412]

agreed. it is such a great car. I may buy another because the affordability is so good on a used one after 3-4 years of depreciation.

[@semblance832]

If you're looking at these purchases as investments, not only are you doing it wrong, you're just plain out of their league.

[@jameschaves5723]

My F50 is skyrocketing. Not sure how much longer I can refuse offers

[@SWright1978]

Is this really just a question of folks paying a silly premium for having the car “fresh in the wrapper” and being fawned over by the dealer, and the true “value” of the item (less the ego pandering) only emerges at 12-18 months?

[@yuthomas8792]

911 Targa price trend?

[@sutherlacd27]

Targa will hold it's valve extremely well.

[@AdamElDiablo]

How about a video on Aventador now that they are discontinued?

[@philipparana9225]

Id like to see f type manuals.

[@BugMateo]

Great analysis...

[@orjan-j2881]

That was a great video

[@DivineFrag]

Shame that the 812 GTS is so expensive as is. Do wonder where the new Astons will bottom out in the next year or so.

[@sakimano]

i'm watching the DB11 volante but was disappointed to learn it's V8 only. Want a V12 which means DBS ...which means $$$$$$.

[@charliecleanup]

Thank you very well done

[@tonypartridge7085]

I wonder how the C7 Corvette is doing

[@Wonderlaust]

Approaching pre COVID levels

[@MTbone7]

I'd be buying those cars that came down the most

[@MB-bg4mz]

people who have never worked in the car sales industry always think they know what's going on... Or do they.

[@gar24407]

There has to be alot of underwater leases😂😂

[@basstradamus1]

If you take inflation into consideration drops will be much lower

[@letsthinkfirstpeople]

You do know the people who can own these cars do not care how much they are. The money is irrelevant, its for fun only.

[@KingKenKen]

Aventador plz

[@O1012-u7q]

I remember I used to get emails from Lamborghini Dallas regularly, and one promo email was letting me know that for the low, low price of $5,000 they would install a… button in your Aventador… to make the spoiler go up, so you could wash it easier. That bit of insanity has stuck with me.

[@tonyoliver2330]

R34 Nissan Skyline GTR VS R35 GTR

[@rzr0000]

Is the video more about “supercars that have already bankrupted some”?

[@jordenkaufman840]

Panamera is a Deprecation Hero lol 700hp for under 70k? nice

[@DavidBrown-bs7gg]

i8 will start rising in a year or so IMO

[@sutherlacd27]

I'd be shocked if they do. They are not good cars

[@Wonderlaust]

Why? They get gapped by 370z’s lmao

[@flavioc5389]

Not to avoid, to buy after 5 years.

[@artureff3046]

buy and hold....

[@amirsnags8663]

Good video

[@johnyang1420]

I double my money with my 1991 Acura NSX.

[@alliedfroth]

Wow, so in 3 & 1/2 years i can have it for free! AWESOME!

[@Serckep]

You're amazing and unique.

[@ZDY66666]

Aka these cars are great buys in another year ? 😂

[@jesseallen1742]

I am buying mu MC20 because I want it not because I am a wholesaler

[@albertmyers7176]

😎😎😎😎😎