MiG-23ML Full Review - Should You Buy It? - Better In War Thunder Than In Real Life

[@fabihubi7039]

When those premiums are on sale in the next year, I can totally recommend them for 35$

[@wildlcl1318]

When do you think they will go on sale?

[@fabihubi7039]

@@wildlcl1318 after the next 2 patches have passed, as soon as another sale comes up

[@black_thunder2159]

​@@wildlcl1318May Day i think it will be discounted

[@wildlcl1318]

@@black_thunder2159 ok thanks my buddy said it might go on sale Christmas day Im not sure if that's true or not

[@UnsungAces]

@@wildlcl1318 Gaijin NEVER discounts premium items from the newest patch, so no

[@Kilanov]

Pretty good plane to be honest, I've been maintaining a 1.8 K/D in it even queueing with friends at 11.7 or 12.0. around 450 games at most would get you to the Fulcrum with this plane if you could keep decent stats

[@Jackplayz1178]

Wdym decent stats? Like average kills per match? How many if so

[@Kilanov]

​@@Jackplayz1178 2-3 average per match is fine for the ML, took me about 600 kills to get to top tier with it

[@Jackplayz1178]

@@Kilanov dang thats awesome. How fun from 1-10 is it?

[@Kilanov]

@@Jackplayz1178 it used to be good fun, I'd avoid for now. looks like it's getting a pretty hefty nerf alongside the MLD

[@bwhittv1446]

If you got the $70, I'd say this is a solid investment. Recommend only running the IR loadout with 2xR-24Ts and 4xR-60Ms and use the IRST radar as it will not give RWR nor radar lock warning. P.S. Recommend to bind your keys for the manual swept wing mechanic so you can fully extend out your wings when in a dogfight or to sweep them back when at high speeds. rarely do i have it on auto unless I'm engaging a bandit as my teammate is #1 on his 6 as I'm trying to keep energy and altitude advantage then no reason to extend my wings out as I'm in the middle of helping out then I'm not trying to boom n' zoom, as I want to stay close as support, so I don't need my wings swept back either

[@ovgamesffa5403]

I can't see the su25 on sale on playstation store neighter the gaijing store, where is it on sale?

[@MrPanggs]

SU-25K is not on sale, and it does not carry R-24T's

[@ethan2570]

@@MrPanggs Yes it does. Carries the T’s and R’s

[@ml-fishing1341]

@@ethan2570litteraly only gets the r60m lol

[@MrKamper_]

Why did you say it was on sale when it isn't

[@FatherExo]

Climb to 20k feet before you turn in for the initial merge, even most F-16s and F-14s aren’t paying attention to you and you can legit fly over everyone at 20-25k feet, once above you can just lunge the R24T from at most 6 or 7 km away, almost always guaranteed one of the two bandits will die, then you’re close enough to throw R60s at people and since you’re aiming down they can really reach out and touch someone even with the short burn time.

[@lasi7000]

ah i see a f14 player wanting free kills using gullible people yeah tried this strat died to a f14 instantly def a f14 player

[@zak9100]

@@lasi7000 this is so sad that those players cant even kill the same f16/14 jets as his., and he want to grind on new players by letting them by jets at 11BR and above for 70$ any guy looking for USSR tec tree get the su25k learn how the r60m ranges and when your wing will rip and you will be fine .

[@lasi7000]

​@@zak9100 in the 3 days it took you to write this comment i learned how to play the mig 23ml it is very easy to learn 10/10 i would recommend but the comment still stays true you should not climb high instead use the r24r and stay below 2 km to use the mti mode and try to get into head ons

[@xianchaencari3244]

@@lasi7000 how do you switch to mti?

[@GeneralArmchair]

@@xianchaencari3244 for that you want the "change radar/IRST mode" control. Another tip is to map the "Radar/irst beyond/within visual range combat" option to swap the radar over to boresight targeting to make it easier to lock targets at close range in the middle of a big furball. You'll need to use the normal target selection options to lock targets at longer ranges though.

[@Irridium2]

I'd love it if you could do a guide for the ML(A/D/*) in 11.7 up-tiers vs F14/F16/M29's - with their waves of superior BVR, and better maneuverability. I did fine prior to latest update, but all I face in my M-23ML*'s is 11.7, 100% of the time, and its a struggle...

[@SirCabooseCCCP]

Yeah it’s quite annoying, basically have to hope an F-14 or F-16 is not focusing on you

[@Denkmaldrubernacht]

I've got the 23MLD and it's way better now than when f14 spam was. You can easily beat the f16 in the 23 if you manually put wings out in a dogfight, the T missiles I have found to be very capable for top down stealth attacks and bvr isn't too much an issue once you learn to notch.

[@RedVRCC]

R-24, notch their radar missile, out turn the F-16 since it's limited to 9g, *use your wing sweep* Also you can use ACM mode on your radar to pull off some particularly nasty r60 shots at very close range

[@tierneysmith7915]

Heck even ir acm is good

[@MunitionsDudTester]

I fully agree about this being the better top tier premium among the other options. In air rb when I see a f4s it's a free kill.

[@chickenjoe427]

Switching to this from the fgr2 is a night and day change this thing absolutely eats anything in its BR if you play it right

[@lilMungo]

Yeah r24 are still op

[@MilesBTW]

@@lilMungo 1 flare

[@lilMungo]

@@MilesBTW no there radar guided to lol

[@MilesBTW]

@@lilMungo depends which R24 you mean

[@niggalini]

@@MilesBTW the R24T (IR version) true strength imo is that it can be used in similar distances as SARH missiles without tripping enemy RWR. So yes they will flare it if they expect it, but the thing is the R24 can be used in a way someone might not expect in the heat of battle

[@WurstWesen82]

It is actually a MLA with a worse Radar. So it is closer to a MLA not the MLD.

[@itspeachy2540]

Wrong way around

[@WurstWesen82]

@@itspeachy2540 ​ @Its Peachy No not wrong way around. MLs were upgraded with a better Radar to use the R24s. ML->MLA->MLD. That is the correct order. That is what all the sources say. I have Yefim Gordons book right next to me and his book on the Mig23 is the best literature you can get. So next time please deal with the subject matter before you post wrong facts. Thank you.

[@julianescalona1491]

@@WurstWesen82 thanks for the clarity

[@niggalini]

@@itspeachy2540 yeah he's right. From the MiG-23M as a basis, the ML's prime improvement was a lighter weight fuselage which led to the improved T/W ratio of 0.83 versus 0.77. The next improvement, MLA, focused primarily on an upgraded radar set, IRST sensor and firing control system. The final improvement, MLD, was centered on flight performance, with a rework in aerodynamics (addition of vortex generation and sawtoothed wing roots) that gives the aircraft higher AoA and thus tighter turning capability, as well as strengthened wing roots to handle more G's and more speed at a straighter wing angle.

[@itspeachy2540]

@@WurstWesen82 I'm not talking about irl jet.... I'm game the ml feels almost exactly like mld with a slightly noticeable worse radar

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

I'm still learning this plane. Its a massive jump from the mig19 I've been using

[@MarekCech-cx9pu]

Bro i am jumping from bf109 f4

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

@@MarekCech-cx9pu RIP. you gonna get obliterated in 10 secs at 11.3 BR. Go and master the training flights first. Find the radar setup that works for you. Choose your mix of flares and chaffs then go ahead to battle

[@MarekCech-cx9pu]

@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 thank you for your tips ill definetly do it

[@MiG23ML]

me jumping from tier 1 biplanes

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

@@MiG23ML how'd it go

[@SPFLDAngler]

The only problem with it is the lackluster radar. Sure it’s got good range and coverage, but it has subpar tracking ability. Sometimes I’m literally looking right at bogeys at co-altitude and it won’t show anything on the radar so I end up having to ACM because they’re too close. It can also lose lock if they are doing anything other than flying towards or away from you, if they are beaming then forget it and if they are at certain angles which seems to vary wildly then it drops lock too. I find myself mostly just slapping on all IR missiles and using the IRST. Oh, and the way Gaijin has set it up so that you have to use the “select secondary weapon” to choose IR missiles if you have both because for whatever frickin reason even if you’re using IRST the game will select the SARH missiles first when pressing the “fire a/a missile” or “lock a/a” AND those require a lock to be had already in order to spool up otherwise you just get the “requires radar lock” message. Which is frustrating because in the heat of battle focusing on the enemy it is difficult to keep track of what weapon you have selected and that can mean the difference between a kill and a death.

[@Iceman2504]

As always! Thank you very much, you helped me a lot making my decision

[@Stunfill]

Did you get it?

[@Iceman2504]

@@Stunfill no I didn't. It's not worth the money

[@KinowasBossu]

Highly recommend this one, got it a little cheaper on steam, just make sure you link your account first!

[@Austrium1483]

How did you get it cheaper?

[@KinowasBossu]

@@Austrium1483 in my country on the gajin store it costs $140 while on steam it costs $100

[@lordmilchreis1885]

@@KinowasBossu Are you from Argentina?

[@zak9100]

highly dislike this one! get su25k or submk

[@Austrium1483]

@@zak9100 are you a new player? Su25k is great but it’s only rank 6

[@ryanwarkentin4706]

If your playing sim and have a VR this things is ridiculously good

[@zak9100]

do not fall for this guys haha. what a scammer.

[@ryanwarkentin4706]

@@zak9100 um in a full 3 hour sim game I average 20 to 35 kills

[@yesyes-om1po]

@@ryanwarkentin4706 cash moeny

[@ryanwarkentin4706]

@@yesyes-om1po fr

[@Ironwarrior-jk3fh]

This was my first premium and I still think it’s the easiest one to use

[@atvkid0805]

U recommended su25k, a slow ground attack plane, that thing is just dog food for any jet and will make grinding significantly harder

[@kencrowe1965]

Another fantastic review!!! Thank You!!

[@SilentButDudley]

All these Mig 23s yet we can’t get 1 F-111... the disrespect of the Aardvark...

[@tensor8804]

With all these mig 23 you got the f14 and soon after f16, ffs

[@ryangosling6651]

Y’all American mains are so fucking ridiculous you guys complain complain complain

[@zitrowill8530]

Id like to hear your take on these jets on Simulator Battles included in your reviews!

[@spaace.938]

He does not play sim so it would not be worth hearing his opinion.

[@Kalrisi_Rei]

@@spaace.938 I'm pretty sure he has made videos on sim, but just doesn't play it as much anymore because Gaijins lack of much focus on it. Well until the BR bracket changes to sim recently atleast

[@ghost0d077]

On average I get 2 kills per match with this plane so I give it a 10 put of 10 even got 6 kills 3 days ago

[@ovgamesffa5403]

Will rank 7 prems go on sale in the summer sale or 2023 christmas sale

[@earpoizin3271]

I wish the Ah-1Z viper had a premium variant

[@longshots2593]

Probably not the best video to post this question on, but what tank at rank 3 plus has a main gun of 37 mm or less for the system of measurements challenge for the season pass?

[@niko5015]

Puma has 35mm

[@harryvenners3603]

SPAAs also work

[@frostedbutts4340]

SPAAs. Just pop into arcade to get it done fast.

[@ShinyRIS]

@@niko5015 it’s just 30

[@infernorex6997]

M163

[@zak9100]

as a player with 2000 hours lsn to this , if you are a new player this will be hell for you you are going to play vs f14/f16 and you will keep dying . any jet at11BR and above is going to be a lot of times vs f14/16 so only buy things below that BR . the reason war thunder put those jets is to revive the high tire matches so it wont be f14/16 vs f14/16 match, and after you buy this jet at 11.3 BR you will want to spend more money to a lower tire jet why? , your dying and not having fun remember? even i , A player with 2000 hours i wont buy those jets . if you all ready bought a jet at 11 BR or above , i`m so sorry for being late. reach level 3 on aviation and use bombers to grind an event seasons and sell those vehicles and get your self a jet below 11BR :) idk why you want a USSR aviation USA tec tree is ruling right now, but the su25k is the best deal for USSR now . you don`t want to lsn ? fine mate we will feast on you with f14/16 enjoy :)

[@XheroldX]

In my opinion Premium Jets should be able to farm bases/groundtargets. Most of the time you want a Premium vehicle to farm SL and grind the tree. Planes that can do both, are much better for grinding.

[@iufu4991]

Su 7 is amazing

[@johnathanben2163]

Not anymore the 10.3s and 10.0s aren’t fun!

[@MiG23ML]

hey u have any trouble with mig23ml's r24f veering into the ground? or turning at the last second to miss the target. Also with MTI can u attack from the side and not do headons, or when i'm attacking from side should i switch off MTI.

[@Austrium1483]

The removed the gyro sight thing from the options again.

[@mrpineapples4752]

I can’t seem to find it on ps5 either will it be out next patch ?

[@Austrium1483]

@@mrpineapples4752 probably, or with a small update they will add it, it probably was removed because it was unfinished

[@yaksparrow2493]

@Croaticum it was extremely janky so yeah that's what I would guess

[@Proever-mq5eo]

I would say if you got the money get it it’s probably one of the best planes at top teir it don’t take that much skill it took my ten games and i was averaging 2-3 kills a game

[@deadstop4434]

Wasn’t the mla the first version of this jet to get access to the r24?

[@takticaltoaster3122]

I bought it for the grind and yes it is worth it if you are experienced enough but if you are new play some games first because Jets play different then props and you will die a lot if you don’t get some experience also the gun pods destroy light armor tanks that’s it I recommend (Ps I think it is the best premium so far and for the experienced players use the noobs learning curve to your advantage)

[@zak9100]

do not believe this guy. jets at 11BR and above will face the f14/16 you will feel very experienced then with losing 70$ get the su25k if you want USSR aviation tec tree. when you unlock the mig23 mld and see how its not easy to kill f14/16 but to sneak on them , you will thank me later :)

[@WyvernCV]

69.99 American? Cries in 89.99 CAD

[@WyvernCV]

It isn't really a big deal mind. But I often forget currencies vary

[@Spicy_Italian_Sausage]

@@WyvernCV I bought it through steam since I had some balance left over. $105 CAD after tax 🤣👍

[@g3arjammer837]

@@Spicy_Italian_Sausage you guys have tax on digital purchases? Oof

[@WyvernCV]

@@g3arjammer837 Government service tax and Provincial service tax. Unless your Alberta, they only have one of the two iirc

[@mrkrabs4913]

I’ve am thinking on the su7bmk and the su25 but all my matches with the tech tree su7 is full of bmks the mig23 seems like a good plane but 70.00 dollars

[@PotatoeJoe69]

If you get the su7 or SU-25, don't get them for Air RB. Only get them if you're gonna use them in ground RB, because in Air RB both those planes are just food.

[@hansloyalitat9774]

@@PotatoeJoe69 Not the su7, great for bombing bases and grinding the tech tree, I never die while flying the su7 because all you do is fly super fast, drop bombs and repeat.

[@warmald3918]

@@hansloyalitat9774 Surprising Su7's get farmed by av8a's all the time its really sad

[@hansloyalitat9774]

@@warmald3918 Probably because lots of inexperienced players buy the premiums.

[@warmald3918]

@@hansloyalitat9774 True but it was better when it had an air spawn

[@unrendered821]

Should I wait to get this jet next year for 35 dollars or should I get it now for 70 dollars or get two premiums on the Xmas sale for 60 dollars?

[@lexonfors]

don't spend the $70, get the SU-25K if you want a Russia grinder. If you really want the MiG-23ML wait for the $35 sale.

[@FishyTopic]

@@lexonforswhy is the su25 better? I’m trying to decide between the mig 23 and the su25 for the summer sale

[@lexonfors]

@@FishyTopic 2 R-60MKs, the best IR missiles in the game below 12.0 tied with maybe 9Ls. Literally 2 free kills at 10.0. Speaking of 10.0 that is 1.3 BR lower than the MiG-23ML, and as such you cannot get uptiered to 12.0. And take it from someome who owns it the ML gets uptiered nearly every game. On top of this the 25K can hold it's own in ground battles, with AMAZING ordinance loadouts, probably the best ground pounder for GRB in the game. So even if you just want air RB you could probably bomb bases with it after or before your 2 free kills.

[@blaisepascal3804]

hey tankenstein, should i get f-4s or mig-23ml?

[@Tankenstein]

MiG-23ML is in a better spot, at least if you prefer air dominance. Better air-to-air missiles for close and long range, though the F-4S is better against ground.

[@blaisepascal3804]

@@Tankenstein on that note, should i get mig-23 now or wait for a sale and get both?

[@madmax7368]

What would you recommend for grinding soviet aviation mig 23 mig 21 s or su 25k

[@swagster8506]

Su

[@princeporridge6928]

su25k absolutely EASILY

[@theplum2706]

Mig-23ML.

[@zak9100]

su25k the mig23ml is above 11BR and f14/16 will be hell. the only reason why those players really want you to get mig23ml because they cant kill the same jets they are flying (f14/16). never fall for them

[@theplum2706]

@zak looser. I fly the ML and i do not own any F-16

[@infacix]

the top speed on the stat card is pretty missleading lol, i could get it up to 2500kph at about 11000m in a straight line

[@frostedbutts4340]

I believe the stat cards are with full fuel or something.

[@yesyes-om1po]

stat cards always lie

[@Kylejphotographer]

I don’t play this game religiously and the best rank I’ve reached is 5.3 and I’m wondering if this premium plane can we used in the air assault pve mode and if it can be used in arcade battles or only realistic

[@camilorodriguez5602]

Any plane can be used in those modes, now is it efective? Idk in arcade but pve it should do good with its speed

[@maxy8820]

does it face f16's and mig29's?

[@maxstgl2991]

Yes

[@LordRidler]

Its 11.3 what did u think? F16/M29 are 12.0 and higher and F14 is 11.7 and higher

[@ovgamesffa5403]

Tankenstein, would you recommend to purchase the a10 for grinding or is it a suffer or is the F5C a better option cause I've had enough time in my beloved av8...

[@jonlikesplanes]

I prefer the a-10 because you don’t have to go against f-14 like the f5c. Plus I sometimes make up to 100k a match if I bomb get a kill or 2 and get ground targets. F5c is also ok but I found the a-10 is more fun to fly.

[@ovgamesffa5403]

@@jonlikesplanes thanks! Btw how many lb pounds for a base in a10? Whats ur loadout

[@morzik12345]

@@ovgamesffa5403 3 2000 lb

[@krzak7856]

f5 is amazing and it's one of the best grinders in the game but 1: you need to understand it 2: don't use anything less than caannons and sidewinders 3. its hard for begginer very bad missiles amazing energy and manevuerablity (you can outturn nearly everything and has very easy guns

[@krzak7856]

@@jonlikesplanes if you survive with f5 and do decent match like 2-3 kills maybe assist or two and light pillbox/bot plane you can easly get 20-25k exp and 100-130k sl with f5 it's easy to get minimum two kills per game sometimes maybe 5-6 my record is 8 (7 without reloading)

[@savageazn69]

I would buy this when it goes on sale, not for full price

[@deaconsequoyah5661]

How do I change the range of the radar

[@Cmoney716]

Search of radar in the controls panel, then set keybinds for each. The second setting (I’m pretty sure) is your range.

[@Lxcx311]

Yay let's introduce rank 8 with 2 planes so we can make old top tier planes into 70buck premium BUT we don't do top tier premiums RIGHT????

[@bamaman6478]

Bro the R24Ts are absolutely clapped

[@UbiKentang-]

please do Mirage F1C-200 review

[@Ryan-go6id]

should I research F-14 or F-16

[@Mangosap]

F-14 still is king. Until F16 gets buffed

[@thril1677]

both are amazing, but if u dogfight f16, f14 has the better radar tho its just up to personal choice

[@bwhittv1446]

F-16 if you fw ground as well. If not, F-14 solid especially on bigger maps as it still has one of the best BVR loadouts in the game. The AIM-56's got a slight buff it feels cuz I've been dying to that more often even when I turn away, dive, and turn. Both solid aircraft but 100% F-16 if you be playing top tier ground as the AGMs and GBUs are solid on the F-16's platform

[@Ryan-go6id]

thank you for your recommendations 🫡

[@discopanzer9921]

meh the f16, the tomcat is so ez to counter

[@humzaakhtar9208]

What's the difference between the MiG 23 and MiG 27?

[@M1A2C.]

MiG-27 is a ground attack variant of the MiG-23 but it is still alright in the air tho nowhere near as potent as the MiG-23

[@cyanide7270]

I dont know what the fuck theyve done to the R-60Ms, but i havent landed a SINGLE R-60 since the patch. Not one, even on jets literally flying straight, no flares, not turning, at a very lazy attack angle, and on full afterburner, EVERY working for them, and theyre fucking missing. Every kill ive gotten has been with the R24T, WHICH to that point have also nerfed and are far more susceptible to flares which was pointless since it would still go after them often enough. Since the hotfix id get 3 that fall for flares for every one that doesnt. All while still fighting F14s, F16s and Mig 29s that all out shine it.

[@velleitas8618]

how do i get this paint job?

[@jovanni_orb5116]

Video is still current.😊

[@thefox787]

I have to ask : how good is it for Air Sim?

[@ThaiLitzki]

Strong as hell. Cheap spawn cost and if you master the art of being stealthy with the IRST/R34Ts you are guaranteed at least two kills each life.

[@thefox787]

@@ThaiLitzki thanks! I was wondering as they're doesn't seems to be many sim reviews.

[@ThaiLitzki]

@@thefox787 that's cause the sim scene is kind of dead :/ sadly it's not really popular due to the weird game mode and extreme repair costs compared to the gain. But a good way to farm RP if you get good at it! :)

[@thefox787]

@@ThaiLitzki yeah I know! (Except since they added radar AA at the base bombing targets) But playing in a BF 109F4 is quit fun with its incredible guns manuverability and powerful engine

[@Tortugo_1]

correction: pretty much a MLA

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

Can someone tell me what is the best missile configuration on this plane?? Is it the SARH missiles?

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

@@GeneralArmchair my mig21 MF is premium and only has R3S and R3R configurations and no countermeasures. Currently I'm only using R3R missiles for head on engagements. They aren't really useful for anything else

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

@@GeneralArmchair I'm thinking of playing with the radar eg IRST/SRC etc... maybe that might make a difference 🤔

[@GeneralArmchair]

@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 Your replies got lost in my notification feed. I don't have experience with the Mig21, but after playing for a few more weeks I still think that 2xR24-R and 4xR60M is still the best loadout for the Mig-23ML. Head to head jousting engagements have been the name of the game for me and have scored me most of my missile kills. I generally follow the following gameplan during my matches: 1: Set my wings to 0% sweep during takeoff and then return my wings to "automatic" mode once I've raised my landing gear. Later during the match I'll return to semi-auto mode if I need to duel someone in a gunfight. 2: I stay low to the ground to disrupt enemy radar guided missiles. The missile seekers get confused by radar reflections of the target once close to the ground. By staying low, I mean less than 100m from the surface. Ideally closer to 20m above the surface. 3: I will approach the enemy team headon, but from the far left or right of the blob of friendly planes. Ideally I will also try to hide my approach with canyons/mountains. 4: Upon reaching the enemy, my objective is to score kills with my two R-24R's. I'm looking for hot targets that are higher than ~100m. I want to lock them with SRC mode at 8-6km and immediately fire before they can start chaffing. If they chaff after missile launch, I just pray that the missile hits. If they chaff before I can launch, then I hold my fire to look for a new target. During this I want to start pre-emptively deploying countermeasures to disrupt any AIM-9L's or R-24T or R-27T's that are sent my way. 5: If the opponent is too low for a radar missile, I'll attempt an R60M head-to-head. I'll pre-flare during the approach to disrupt any missile locks. I will lock the target during my approach but hold my fire. Just prior to 1km I'll spray a few short bursts of cannon fire to make the opponent think that we're doing a gun run at each other. Then, if the opponent hasn't pre-flared, I'll release the R60M at a range of ~800-900m. There usually isn't time for any new flares to seperate from the plane at this point. 6: After merging with the enemy, I will not turn around to engage any other nearby enemies. Instead I'll keep my speed up and cut across the frontline with the ultimate intent to pass through friendly lines again. This whole time I'll keep my eyes open for other hot targets ~6-8km away for a new R-24R attack, or look for any enemies preoccupied with my teammates. Toss R60M's at the preoccupied enemies to see if they pass the vibe check. 7: Once my R-24R's are expended, my objective is to RTB for resupply. I'll assist with any nearby targets of opportunity along the way, but ultimately I want to disengage and get more R-24R's.

[@gus8310]

@@GeneralArmchair very thorough explanation my friend I will definitely be giving this game plan a try

[@Ilovethedeepsea]

It is good target practice

[@melenninja4744]

when will it be on a discount ?

[@SamSamiiiii]

After 2 major updates and next time when its anniversary or chrimas sale. So not in anytime soon, probably december 2023.

[@g3arjammer837]

Mirage next?

[@prumernycech4744]

i 100% recommend, decent radar and missiles

[@bwhittv1446]

Highly suggest only running the IR missile loadout. 2xR24Ts and 4xR-60Ms. Play support role and you'll rack up easy kills especially with the R-24Ts from distance. 4-7km is a solid range (obviously 7km being they're in the middle of turning and such)

[@prumernycech4744]

@@bwhittv1446 i prefer R24r, bur i will sure try few games with r24t

[@Flying_Lexus]

I'm actually impressed by it's maneuverability and speed retention in dog fights. I noticed that the F-14 players get angry when they get outmaneuvered. One guy was yelling at me last night for shooting him down with guns after he stalled in a dogfight and I shot him all across the fuselage. According to him a Mig-23ML is not capable of doing that. I bought it to grind for Mig-29 but now looking at the loadouts, I'm not sure if I'm going to like it more than this plane.

[@Flying_Lexus]

@@prumernycech4744 IMO the r24t is less headache. And they lock on better than expected from longer ranges.

[@zak9100]

as a player with 2000 hours lsn to this , if you are a new player this will be hell for you you are going to play vs f14/f16 and you will keep dying . any jet at11BR and above is going to be a lot of times vs f14/16 so only buy things below that BR . the reason war thunder put those jets is to revive the high tire matches so it wont be f14/16 vs f14/16 match, and after you buy this jet at 11.3 BR you will want to spend more money to a lower tire jet why? , your dying and not having fun remember? even i , A player with 2000 hours i wont buy those jets . if you all ready bought a jet at 11 BR or above , i`m so sorry for being late. reach level 3 on aviation and use bombers to grind an event seasons and sell those vehicles and get your self a jet below 11BR :) idk why you want a USSR aviation USA tec tree is ruling right now, but the su25k is the best deal for USSR now . you don`t want to lsn ? fine mate we will feast on you with f14/16 enjoy :)

[@GabriGlider]

Im goona buy it once I sell this event vehicle

[@Austrium1483]

The Tornado how much will it be worth?

[@chickenjoe427]

@@Austrium1483 no clue yet at least 60 gjn probably more given time

[@MilesBTW]

@@Austrium1483 probably like 20 in the first week

[@danalaing9704]

which one SU 25k or MiG 23ml

[@BC_Jerome9141]

mig

[@GeneralArmchair]

In my opinion the mig has the higher performance ceiling once mastered, but the Su-25k is both much easier to use and can serve as a CAS plane in ground RB. You NEED to learn to to defend and attack with BVR combat with the mig, which is challenging for some players.

[@julianescalona1491]

Anyone know what it would be 2km to feet/ 6km to feet

[@ml-fishing1341]

Google

[@MageOtter27]

1m= approximatively 3ft

[@skill.issue.]

why does the camouflage in the thumbnail looks a bit if its saying Arabic "Allah Akbar" if you look far away

[@jayklink851]

👍👍

[@MoskusMoskiferus1611]

The ML downed some F-14s in real life

[@meancat6558]

I got the F104S cuz it good

[@Austrium1483]

Is it better than George Floyd?

[@meancat6558]

@@Austrium1483 yes very

[@Austrium1483]

@@meancat6558 good to hear

[@z6a99c]

World of warships players. Hearing when you get extras. 👁👄👁 Wows t9 ships go for 77 USD.

[@loggermandan1425]

Any of you guys here in the comments know how to get into the discord? I’m stuck at the welcome channel

[@blackghost6796]

It's only £8 more than the previous top tier premiums for the brits

[@feraltrafficcone4483]

I will with the money I get from selling the T-80

[@GabriGlider]

vehicle events will probably cost 25 dollars

[@feraltrafficcone4483]

@@GabriGlider top tier vehicles usually start at $60

[@GabriGlider]

@@feraltrafficcone4483 Yes but that's for the crafting events, This event is so easy. You can make 40k points in 3 hours in air battles. Check out last summer event. It was the same event and vehicles cost around that money :(. I'm in the same situation as you, i want the 23ML and gonna spend the money I get with the airplane event. Hopefully is more than 30$!!

[@feraltrafficcone4483]

@@GabriGlider maybe? We’ll fuck around and find out

[@RedVRCC]

MiG-23MaLD

[@morzik12345]

all of my matches with this has been against f16 that snipe me with their radar guided missiles. Worst $70 spent

[@Crusher99a]

Skill issue

[@morzik12345]

@@Crusher99a ok smart ass< how you supposed to dodge radar guided rockets

[@spectre0969]

Dude you have an RWR If you’re at 11.3 and don’t know how to deal with radars you shouldn’t be up there

[@morzik12345]

@@spectre0969 mate, i've been playing the mig21 for the last couple of fukin years. Its not the fukin radar killing its the fukin radar guided missile coming straight for my ass and flares do jack shit. I don't need a fukin Radar Warning Receiver when I see the fukin missile heading for my fukin cockpite

[@ml-fishing1341]

So your sub level 25 and thought it would be a good idea to buy an 11.3 jet. Thank you for the free RP!

[@Chris-ts2yc]

A6e pls

[@vunac1159]

You Are czech?

[@ragemonikers]

Crown royale

[@Taylor.L.]

Lets be real your gonna use the mig 27k for cas anyway

[@TheUnderscoreSeven]

Or the SU-25K

[@daxdert7620]

Don't buy it whatever it's price is it's just not capable plane with broken radar range 30km you are seen by anything except mig-21, R-60M nerfed even smallest flare could turn missile tracking facing F-14,16 won't give you much life.

[@blackghost6796]

I like how I watch this after buying it😂😂

[@sumsmoke1188]

I was literally buying it as I watched it😂

[@sacrament6544]

The only reason I would buy the Mig23 is if Gayjin added that if you shoot he gun the plane shakes apart

[@Andy_M.S.c]

Hell no to the Su25. for 10 bucks more you get R24Ts and the great climber that the 23 is. If you have a good amount of skill and previous experience with top tier the 23ML is the way to go. I wish I could talisman the 23MLD. I already grinded the 29 so I don't need to but it is so worth it.

[@zak9100]

do not fall for this guys get the su25k or su bmk if you want USSR aviation but to be honest USA tec is better

[@beepbeepbeepgo2122]

This thing is better than f16 in game I have both

[@zak9100]

do not fall for this guys .

[@FormulaOneStar]

This plane ruined Russia win rates at Top Tier.

[@Anuj-2]

If it costs 69 dollars then I'm buying it for sure

[@warcriminal121]

petition to get a premium mig29

[@Torbert_]

petition for you to just grind

[@warcriminal121]

@@Torbert_ petition for you to take a joke

[@Takemura76]

Gaijin said they wouldn’t do this and now they’re selling the top of the top tier planes. I’ve died to more ML noob pilots than I have to enemy planes since the patch.

[@Klonnno]

Sounds like you’re the noob if you’re dying to noobs.

[@Takemura76]

@@Klonnno your poor reading comprehension gives you away as a noob to basic level logic and reasoning. Notice, I was speaking of friendly Mig23ML pilots team-killing me. More so than enemy planes. Get it now? Do I have to spell it out in even more an elementary fashion for ya?

[@Ken-no5ip]

The ML players are bots

[@boris5693]

Lol you haven't met the tomcat then

[@theplum2706]

@@Ken-no5ip no im not. I like to bully players who still think the Mig23 is a shitty platform from 7km away or slap in their faces a R-60M

[@discopanzer9921]

Ah yes, now low levels can be even more useless by buying LITERAL TOP TEIR vechiles seriously (if your a low level dont buy your way up here dont be bait or a useless team slot) thank you!

[@AwolMedal27]

Maybe if grinding didn’t take FOREVER!!! I wouldn’t buy premiums. I have a LIFE and don’t have time to grind.

[@zak9100]

@@AwolMedal27 get su25k , the mig23ml will be worst

[@discopanzer9921]

@@AwolMedal27 its called having balls

[@AwolMedal27]

@@zak9100 I bought the mig 23 ml and grinded to the mig 29 in 3 weeks

[@Harrier-i3f]

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV, Jesus Christ is the only way......

[@zacharysevick]

This plane is terrible one of worst premiums