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@-w-Trix3 ай бұрын
The fact that the ceo apologized first to the INVESTORS within under 10 seconds tells you everything.
@drd6753 ай бұрын
Hell, in the US it is law that a corporation's duties are to the shareholders not the employees nor the customers. Thank you Henry Ford
@tribopower3 ай бұрын
If I was an investor for niji (one that was big enough to even mention) I would be suing niji for the amount of lies they dropped for me as an investor...
@seanmckelvey66183 ай бұрын
@@tribopower No you wouldn't. You would have known and wouldn't care because money.
@clovistheconbat3 ай бұрын
@@seanmckelvey6618 this, unfortunately, tends to be the truth when it comes to shareholders.
@garethdewhurst14993 ай бұрын
Thats expected, his responsibility is primarily to the investors first, especially in Japan...but serious, what was with the black colour scheme? bad look given the rumors
@LegamSSF3 ай бұрын
Once you're on Charlie's channel, the damage is no longer "negligible"
@HomekittyL23 ай бұрын
Still love that Riku apologized to the INVESTORS for saying Selen's termination was negligible but not to the almost 1 million fans who supported her (myself included) or anyone else in her corner. Very smart move indeed
@USSAnimeNCC-3 ай бұрын
True that
@Kurimi133 ай бұрын
The yacht is sinking...
@pdpgb3 ай бұрын
@@HomekittyL2 Or to Selen herself.
@Beanzops3 ай бұрын
I eat the cotton candy from my walls
@izabelreyes39153 ай бұрын
CyYu even mentioned how Niji wanted him to completely drop his VA career if he wanted to join. The company wants nothing but full control so that they can drop them with no chance of them thriving after.
@Zack_Zander3 ай бұрын
“No chance of them thriving after” **The company continues to harass Doki by releasing a statement about her private legal document during her stream** Can't be any further from the truth.
@user-xx7kl7sr6i3 ай бұрын
Honestly they just completely destroyed that tactic with this PR nightmare. It was so bad that several VTubers who graduated or were going to graduate suddenly UNGRADUATED, meaning they backpedaled from the NIJISANJI debut or audition process after realizing what's up.
@Banshee_Null3 ай бұрын
JESUS NO (bro we dont need hoyoverse mixed into this bs)
@sand_eater1013 ай бұрын
They want full dependence so they can treat you like shit but you’ll stay anyway. The fucking audacity bro
@batterupman3 ай бұрын
It's insane. Everything and anything Nijisanji could offer him is already dwarfed by what he gets out of voicing Shallot alone.
@aljoshilagan32043 ай бұрын
just to put it in perspective for people who aren't in the know when it comes to vtubers. hololive also had someone who left their ranks, and was basically part of the longest group they had. because she violated her contract. and the way they handled it is different: -they wanted her so stay, and just forget about the incident. she said herself she wanted to leave. as she didn't want to be given special treatment. -everyone in the company was free to say what they want, but all of them were saddened by the news. -the CEO himself, wanted to give her another shot. but respected her wishes. but hey, thats the difference you get when a company cares for their employee rather than treat them like products.
@franks777_KFP3 ай бұрын
Mel right? Is it true about them wanting her to stay? First time i hear from it but if true, my opinion of holo goes up cuz i was so angry at them for not using something like a suspension.
@gab40993 ай бұрын
@@franks777_KFP what I've been hearing is she breached contract by accident (leaked company info or something like that) and that while they *wanted* her to stay, they couldn't let her because then it would render that portion of all of the other contracts null and void in the future bc they made an exception, therefore they came to that agreement.
@franks777_KFP3 ай бұрын
@@gab4099 ah too bad, that aligned with what i heard. Op made it look like they were willing to go with something less severe but she opted out honorably. Well, that's harsh jp business for ya.
@ecyor03 ай бұрын
@@franks777_KFP It's also worth noting that Mel's name didn't become taboo, even though it was a termination rather than a graduation, everyone was free to express regrets and condolences, they did a very good job of communicating that there was no maliciousness or bad acting involved, it was just an unfortunate consequence of contract law.
@gabetalks92753 ай бұрын
Idk how I feel about that. If they wanted her to stay, then that proves to be that it wasn't a termination worthy situation because the leak was self-contained. It didn't spread like Rushia's leak did. And Mel has always been a very sensitive person, so I feel like Mel wanted to leave was just her feeling emotional in the moment. I don't think Hololive going through with it so quick when emotions were so high was a good idea. It makes me question whether or not Mel's judgement was truly sound or not. I wish she was just suspended, because even though I never watched her content, she always had a big presence in Hololive, and just her status as being one of their senpais to the younger talents was really comforting. I feel really bad for Advent because they never got the chance to meet Mel.
@kanebravo9533 ай бұрын
During this shit show, Hololive, probably the biggest vtuber agency out there put out their yearly financial support and it showed that each of their talents got a salary of like 30K a month, completely independent of their merch sales, superchats, and other income. When the shareholders asked the CEO, Motoaki "Yagoo" Tanigo, to be more like Anycolor to make more money, he responded, "We pay our talent what we believe they are worth, and will not be lowering their pay."
@GarrusN73 ай бұрын
Nijisanji actually makes a lot more than Hololive but that's thanks to having nearly double the amount of liverstreamers. Of course they also don't pay their streamers as well as Hololive and don't invest in staff either,.
@kanebravo9533 ай бұрын
@@GarrusN7 I don't mean biggest in terms of money, but in reach. Gura being the most subscribed Vtuber on KZbin, Calli making songs for both One Piece and MGS, Pekora being the number 1 most watched female streamer in all of 2023, stuff like that.
@FlammableObject3 ай бұрын
@@GarrusN7Actually Hololive makes more! They're both public and you can compare the financials. In Q3 of 2023 Hololive reported 7.13 billion yen in revenue, to Nijisanji's 6.54 billion. However Holo only reported 1.04 billion yen in net income, to Niji's 1.7 billion. tl;dr Hololive makes more money, but less profit because they aren't a sweatshop.
@applewind93183 ай бұрын
@@GarrusN7 They do? Have any source for that? I'm curious.
@tabinekoman3 ай бұрын
what will you buy ? HRD investment or A Yacht
@mochafurvie3 ай бұрын
Niji CEO memed for being a corrupt, Holo CEO being memed because he is too good and loved
@ReinKayomi3 ай бұрын
Niji CEO is like Mr. Krabs but 100x worse
@Knight-Bishop3 ай бұрын
It's like Tazumi saw Hololive's success (after some very rocky and strict beginnings), and decided to copy all of the shitty things that Hololive gradually stopped doing, as if that was the secret to their success. They completely swapped places in reputation in less than 3 years, it's almost an achievement to fuck up so hard.
@TK09213 ай бұрын
Also after yagoo started to become a meme *mysteriously* for *some reason* nijisanji streamers started to hype up tazumi. None of which felt natural and was very cringe. You can feel the difference between hololive members having friendly banter and poking a little fun at yagoo, and tazumi taking a selfie with him holding a sign saying "I'm selen's idol". Which is an even more insulting image now with the hindsight we have.
@corsojames3 ай бұрын
@@ReinKayomi at least Mr Krabs has a heart. Niji CEO is legitimately Dan Snyder levels of evil
@Swagpion3 ай бұрын
I saw somebody say that Yagoo was pops and Tazumi was anti-pops. It's a regular show reference but for those who don't know. Pop is the spirt of good, antipops is the spirit of evil. So yeah, it makes sence.
@teddedora10623 ай бұрын
Revealing confidential documents as a lawyer is incredibly unethical and often illegal, especially because it seems to be an intimidation tactic. Not only should the company be sued but their lawyers should lose their law licenses.
@ReinKayomi3 ай бұрын
This is like that one former CIA agent who leaked documents to WikiLeaks
@gurugurumawaru78693 ай бұрын
There's the rumor that Elira got hands on those document, because... she is moonlighting as Niji's manager. The Grand Unifying Rrat had spoken.
@scoper78973 ай бұрын
Welp charlie is trying do hard to cancel people and now eben a company? Too big of a step to take for an influencer who only yapping and leeching from other peoples content
@aziki0013 ай бұрын
@@scoper7897 Are you actually defending a company that LEECHES off their own creators?
@Yondayme6663 ай бұрын
@@scoper7897 the only leech here is nijisanji
@Ad-bd6ns3 ай бұрын
Something that wasn't mentioned was that this isn't the first time this happened with a niji branch. Nijisanji Korea, Nijisanji India, Nijisanji Shanghai, Nijisanji Taipei. ALL of them crashed and burned due to mismanagement. This time it was just given enough attention.
@Helmir3 ай бұрын
Yeah it's not all rainbows in the JP branch either as they've had a number of big members exit to go indie because of management, pay, etc.
@MujinOfficial3 ай бұрын
BEING IN A CHARLIE VIDEO WAS THE LAST THING I WAS EXPECTING LOL THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING ME AND I'M SO GLAD YOU ENJOYED MY BREAKDOWN!!
@DaKdawg3 ай бұрын
It was a really good break down by the way. Nice job!
@Artwolf0073 ай бұрын
The unhinged lunatic himself. Good job on the breakdown bro
@joestar_kid52083 ай бұрын
CONGRATS MAN
@biazacha3 ай бұрын
Two universes colliding right here
@RKNancy3 ай бұрын
My favourite drama KZbinr is finally gaining the recognition he deserved.
@Crytica.3 ай бұрын
"It's like this company is run by a Voltorb that is obsessed with using the move Self Destruct." I fucking love you Charlie LMAO
@dustinbragg19213 ай бұрын
So a full odds Shiny.
@youdonegoofed3 ай бұрын
man's a lyrical mastermind
@thunzur3 ай бұрын
he'd probably thought of that joke on the spot lmao
@philippbassauer97803 ай бұрын
ive searched this comment xD
@Swagpion3 ай бұрын
BWAHAHA
@imgonish3 ай бұрын
I would also like to add to K9Kuro's claims. In one of his earlier livestreams with VShojo, he had stated that he was originally going to debut as indie, but changed his mind. He revealed that he was in trouble his taxes and owed a lot because NijisanjiEN did not give him the correct forms/documents/numbers and refused to help him at all with his financial situation. Reaching out to many of his vtuber friends asking for help, Ironmouse said "i got you" and asked her contacts, and got him in contact with Gunrun (VSJ CEO) and was able to help resolve the issues. Seeing how someone he really didn't know, helped him out way more than what his then previous company did, made it an easy decision to join. It's heartbreaking to hear that both Kuro and Matara were genuinely flabbergasted that management as VSJ were, in paraphrasing Matara's words, going out of their way to make sure everything was taken care of and if they needed any help at all finding artists, VT riggers, BGM artists, etc., and if they needed extra funding for it.
@Zack_Zander3 ай бұрын
VShojo has zero reason to go out of their way to help someone who isn't part of them, but they did and I have more respect to them. That alone makes Nijisanjo even worse and I love it. I knew that Mysta (now known as Kuro) got into tax debt because he bought a house as his work studio and was expecting a tax deduction due to being related to his work, and that it seemed like a problem that he got into himself. But my gut feeling tells me that Nijisanji refused to provide the tax deduction which resulted in his debt. I did not know about the fact that they didn't give him the correct documents, but that still sounds like a way of them f**king him over to avoid giving tax deductions.
@Banshee_Null3 ай бұрын
cried reading this
@Zack_Zander3 ай бұрын
Also to add to the management part, while I don't “think” VShojo “directly” helps with funding it, they most likely “indirectly” help by finding sponsors or marketing extra products to help fund their talent’s projects so the talents wouldn't have to pay out of their pocket. Which is in a way still helping to fund it. I just couldn't even imagine how they were able to fund their projects when they were in Nijisanji, especially when I don't believe the talents are allowed to personally have sponsors or to market stuff on their own without being anonymous about it.
@Corethetic3 ай бұрын
damn, I kinda dislikes ironmouse and used to think vshojo was a shithole. I guess they aren't that bad
@Zack_Zander3 ай бұрын
@@Corethetic From what I know, it was only bad when they first came out, especially due to the three talents/streamer; Silver, Vei, and Nyanners, who caused some of the main dramas. After they left (technically graduate, but VShojo doesn't use that term), the agency started to improve over time as it recruited several fairly-known vtubers who graduated from other companies. Btw, what's wrong with Ironmouse? I mainly know her due to her having a connection with CDawg, but I don't remember her causing or being a part of any major drama like Silver, Vei, and Nyanners.
@PossessedbyPhoenix3 ай бұрын
A ukelele apology would have unironically been a much better choice than what they pulled
@kuroshiba19033 ай бұрын
That image of the CEO is so funny to look at. They called their company "Anycolor" and decided to go with the black and white evil company background
@neontiger15573 ай бұрын
Should have ditched the white considering they're a Black Company seemingly
@Flapjack37343 ай бұрын
It feels straight out of a cartoon trying to make the evil company have some ironically “cheery” name 😂
@m4x_payn3_enjoyer3 ай бұрын
My farts are way smellier than of Charlie's
@Rinrin-ms3lp3 ай бұрын
If you combine every color it will be black
@datchia_exposed3 ай бұрын
IM MUCH MORE SUCSESSFUL THAN NIJISANJI
@KFishproductionII3 ай бұрын
Heres some missed parts: Mysta Rias was in 400,000 USD (might be pounds/another currency) in debt after leaving Nijisanji. Dokibird stated she spent 200k in 2023, mostly paying off people Nijisanji refused to, and made exactly ZERO profit for the entire year. Himemori Luna, the Hololive Japan talent, was formerly a Nijisanji talent, and was driven to tears many times on live stream under Nijisanji. Pomu Rainpuff saw an opportunity to be sponsored by Metal Gear, her favorite game series and working with them was practically her goal in life. Even though it would have been a huge profit for Nijisanji, they shut her down on it, and then removed the part of her graduation stream where she alluded to it. Mirei Gundou, one of Nijisanji JP's best performing vtubers, was immediately terminated after making a dumb joke about baseball (something about purposefully trying to hit the pitcher). One of the reason Zaion was terminated was for "claiming to be sponsored by companies they had no sponsorship with". This company is the hypothetical "Deez Nutz" that does not exist.
@rAbBItH0LE.md_003 ай бұрын
wait luna used to be part of nijisanji? damn
@zulualpha35513 ай бұрын
@@rAbBItH0LE.md_00 yup, the only ex-Niji to be a Hololiver so far Probably the best decision she's ever made
@TanniMachine3 ай бұрын
The Mirei Gundou one was iirc moreso mistake after mistake piled up on top of her (according to JP fans), with the baseball one being the icing on the cake most likely. It was still dumb but internationally only the baseball joke is mentioned
@ericneo23 ай бұрын
Holy moly!
@r3ll2823 ай бұрын
@@TanniMachineits bs because other shotacon livers like utago get away with the stuff gundou was terminated for
@Cardboardachi3 ай бұрын
Important Key Notes: Riku Tazumi (CEO & Founder) owns 45% of Anycolor shares and is valued at probably 1.5 billion dollars. He is roughly 27 years old now. While not always important, it is important in how hard he is squeezing water from the stone to accumulate his wealth so quickly. He bragged about his 198million dollar Superyacht during a period where the company was seeing oversaturation for talent/lower incomes. This 1-2% merch info comes out. And that was all sort of during COVID that he flexed. So, yeah. Dude is out of touch and still has a lot of failures someone in their 20s would have that has grown out of touch at such a pivotal age.
@user-xx7kl7sr6i3 ай бұрын
Oh, so the yacht is real.
@Turigamot3 ай бұрын
Remember martin shkreli? Tazumi seems like he's the same sort of person
@Archedgar3 ай бұрын
@@Turigamot Martin Shkreli was based af. The niji CEO seems more like a pelosi/clinton type.
@Turigamot3 ай бұрын
@@Archedgar whatever you say dude
@Wayte133 ай бұрын
@@Archedgar How is gouging medicine prices based, exactly?
@thinman252 ай бұрын
I can't wait for youtube to start recognizing "unalive" so people will have to start saying, like, "hamburger time" to avoid getting demonitized.
@Trialsphere3 ай бұрын
*”It seems that Nijisanji EN has hit rock bottom… Unfortunately, they brought a shovel.”*
@d9zirable3 ай бұрын
You mean a pickaxe
@RuyVuusen3 ай бұрын
@@d9zirableBoth. So they can go lower be it dirt or stone.
@randomperson0933 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they had an excavator with them
@Trialsphere3 ай бұрын
@@randomperson093 damn straight
@1badly-ji2jw3 ай бұрын
@@randomperson093you mean fortunately they had a excavator
@matrixster62383 ай бұрын
It’s basically proven that Selen/Doki did NOT make the posts about her hospitalization on the Selen account, those were made by the “management”. She was locked out of her accounts right after she made the post asking people to reupload the music video.
@infernalsorcery79233 ай бұрын
Even weirder
@Zen-zt4uk3 ай бұрын
Never thanked myself and others understanding when it comes different apostrophe strokes.
@shiokarazu45353 ай бұрын
Yeah the insight into the different apostrophes that keyboards use based on location was wild. I wonder if people dig into old messages they can find out more tweets from management that people thought were from the streamers
@Sake_Ikura_Don3 ай бұрын
What really?!
@Sleepyhead0808083 ай бұрын
Nijisanji management themselves confirmed that Selen was locked out of her account when these posts were made. So they admitted it.
@Vexilis3 ай бұрын
My personal gripe with the CEO "apology" is that he didn't even apologize to selen herself for releasing those documents when he clearly knows that was a mistake
@freyathedragon899Ай бұрын
Nijisanji: "You don't have value" The People: "Stop talking to yourself"
@YellowishOnion3 ай бұрын
Charlie is in DEEP... Hearing him say names like Nina, Selen, Mysta, and Pomu is so surreal...
@Beanzops3 ай бұрын
I eat the cotton candy from my walls
@lunehours3 ай бұрын
What a time to be alive, I cannot believe all my interests are merging together
@league-of-lias3 ай бұрын
mans does his research. hats off
@bigpoopies7893 ай бұрын
@@Beanzops superb 👍
@nicorocks73 ай бұрын
@@Beanzops i dont think thats healthy
@TheWinterPhoenix3 ай бұрын
Another crazy thing that wasn't in that post is another Niji talent left in December and K9 Kuro of VShojo, aka Mysta Rias, joined VShojo because when he worked for Nijisanji he was recommended an accountant/financial consultant. This accountant/financial consultant recommended by Nijisanji had messed up so bad it left him $350,000 in tax debt. He didn't know what to do because of how bad the debt was and he asked everyone he knew for help. That's when VShojo's Ironmouse and VShojo's CEO Gunrun helped him out. Gunrun sorted out the paper work for him and managed to reduce a significant portion of the tax debt. He noted that him and Ironmouse weren't that close. They hardly spoke but he was desperate and messaged everyone he knew. Ironmouse and Gunrun said they had his back and they really did. Kuro was so grateful he joined VShojo and is working off the tax debt.
@sitchreapotere10733 ай бұрын
Ironmouse and the rest of VShojo are practically saints in the VTubing community, it's insane the amount of goodwill they have fostered.
@biazacha3 ай бұрын
Mousey is a real one for this
@ellenation22943 ай бұрын
yeah, mysta was considered like the second highest paying male vtuber in the en branch and I was so surprised to hear he was in a bad financial situation cus I thought the company helped them out on it but it seems like with everything u have to figure it urself in this company.
@hypertrixdark3 ай бұрын
I don't get why people hate on vshojo so much they help and care about there talent and they treat them as people.
@bluedemon27833 ай бұрын
This, this right here is why Mousey won Content Creator of the Year!
@kohakoulov3 ай бұрын
My concerns, Mysta used to be very poor with his mom, and he was desprate for money so he joined NIJI and he said he was happy he has money now but when I learned that the talents get 1 or 2% of the merch they sell I got concerned if its the same of the dono's they got...
@yezki83 ай бұрын
The big 3 is now Hololive, Vshojo, and Phase Connect. But back then, it was Holo and Niji. THE MOMENT I SAW YAGOO BEHAVE, i knew he was the consumer of his own product, just like Gaben. I knew Hololive was the choice lol
@livingcorpse56643 ай бұрын
The irony of greed is it ends up costing you money, not making more.
@Punishthefalse3 ай бұрын
It *might* make money in the short term but in the long term it ends up emptying up the bank account.
@MollyHJohns3 ай бұрын
Just like gambling. But they call it investment 😂
@MultiKommandant3 ай бұрын
"The tighter you grasp a handful of sand, the faster it empties" can't recall where that saying originates from but yeah greed is not a trait conducive to greater wealth, only a worsening reputation.
@alexipestov70023 ай бұрын
Penny Wise, Pound Foolish
@alive5273 ай бұрын
@@MultiKommandantdamn that sounds so powerful as a message
@thecrazycapmaster3 ай бұрын
It’s really interesting, Vox’s claim that he read the entire document actually puts Nijisanji in an unwinnable position- they said that they DIDN’T show the whole document to the livers. So either Nijisanji lied about not showing the whole document to them, or Nijisanji gave them an altered document, which is the perfect situation to stuff some lies into the document to pit the livers against Doki and the fans against the livers.
@danielschnitzer70443 ай бұрын
There's multiple contradictions between the Three and the statement Management released later on. To add insult to injury, Vox also said he read the entire document THOROUGHLY. The only one that didn't make it worse for Niji was Ike, mostly because he barely said anything. Vox did most of the yappin (and is getting cooked the absolute hardest)
@anhkduc79303 ай бұрын
@@danielschnitzer7044worse is that, all the content from that stream is approved prior by their legal team, so it's not like he slip up or something. Everything he said can and will be use in the court case.
@biazacha3 ай бұрын
@@danielschnitzer7044to be fair Ike barely saying anything is pretty lore accurate.
@danielschnitzer70443 ай бұрын
@@biazacha He didn't sign up for this, literally
@Norimin3 ай бұрын
looks like their own legal team is very incompetent... if niji survives this, they really need to invest in better people and not cut cost for yatchs
@Shft-T4b3 ай бұрын
Let's also not forget about what happened to Nijisanji KR and ID. They were the former Korean and Indonesian branches of the company that were eventually dissolved into the JP branch sometime around the end of 2022. After the merge, many of the livers who used to belong to those branches started graduating left and right, moving on to other things. Now that all of this has come out, it's probably not a stretch to think something similar was going on behind the scenes with them. I genuinely think the only branch Nijisanji really cares about is their main JP team. I was a big fan of Nijisanji EN back in 2022 but fell off keeping up with the talents at the start of 2023 because I had less free time. Recently, it feels like I'm only coming back to watch the graduations of my favorite livers - biggest was Pomu. Can't believe they've had to deal with this crap the whole time from their own company.
@Helmir3 ай бұрын
There was also the India branch and ones in Shanghai, Taipei.
@kangketokmagic3 ай бұрын
Niji id sound like niji solo😢😢
@farequinas56153 ай бұрын
I was a huge fan of Niji ID. They were like a close-knit family, all of them (including ID management) are based and are eager for growth. Frustratingly of course, Anycolor just drop them into the mud. You know what's really sad? Those ID livers who already left are STILL meeting up together even now. They have their own youtube channels and even meet up for some games like DnD where the usual ID chaos ensues. Truly shows you that they are genuine friends who enjoy each other's company. It's really a shame that they couldn't just continue to grow doing all of that as a vtuber in Niji ID.
@LooterPenguin3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if things were just as bad on the Japanese side as well. Just that the work culture in Japan is to bow down and be obedient while silently suffering abuse and harassment from companies.
@jackmayor35743 ай бұрын
probably so, given the fact that Japanese fans are currently defending the company and saying they did nothing wrong. Their culture is used to corporate harassment and toxicity.
@farequinas56153 ай бұрын
Funny you say that, cause Niji JP's first gen Yuki Chihiro graduated amidst Selen's incident, she stated that she, along with her genmates have been forcing themselves to stay at Niji until she finally gave up and graduated. Then, not even 1 week later, she debuted as an Indie Vtuber, Sakura Aoi, and her genmates tweeted about her debut, not even giving a fck about what Niji thinks anymore.
@LooterPenguin3 ай бұрын
@@farequinas5615 Yeah, definitely sounds like things are just as bad on the JP side of things. Hopefully as many as possible can manage to get out and have a successful indie redebut.
@firework81403 ай бұрын
The thing about Selen's MV, she already got permission from LilyPichu and the producer of the song. They took it down because she didnt get permission to feature 2 vtubers, Nina and Mysta. 2 Nijisanji talents that have left the company. She didnt use their voice, just showing Mysta and Nina Nijisanji took down the video because Nijisanji didn't get permission..... FROM NIJISANJI
@firework81403 ай бұрын
What is more fucked is this rule was implemented AFTER her MV
@MinhPaprika-pu6yg3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, Hololive has just released the last cover with Mel in it, they respect their talents
@kringe7003 ай бұрын
@@MinhPaprika-pu6ygHeck they are even allowed Rushia in Marine's MV despite the circumstance and drama around her.
@sisterjanel3 ай бұрын
I hate niji as much as everyone else, but you can’t be serious in thinking THATS the cause of the video being taken down right? Selen may have gotten direct permission from lilypichu, but that doesn’t mean that she got permission from niji themselves. We all know these livers have to go through stupid hoops to show specific content and this isn’t the first time she hasn’t gotten permission to do a project.
@dlcyKing3 ай бұрын
@@sisterjanelan mv takes ages to be made, her management has been informed of said mv is being made for months. Said management much like previous times ignores her and the mv had to be out for christmas. Said management also has failed to pay creators so she paid out of her personal paypal account, said management has failed to send out NDAs so they never got signed as well. Management being woefully incompetent is what made the situation to what it is now.
@rezkel74043 ай бұрын
Sadly this isn't even the first time they mismanaged a branch, as their India, Korea, and Indonesia branches were massive failures in part due to not having any support and almost all of the livers have since left
@AnimaRandom3 ай бұрын
Not even that During their hayday, fcking mito had to do a resistance movement due to mismanagement That's why mito is very concern because this is basically the repeat of what she fought
@Benzcrimsonitacilunarnebula3 ай бұрын
@@AnimaRandomactually what happened there like how does nijisanji not fall apart it's like a miracle
@AnimaRandom3 ай бұрын
@@Benzcrimsonitacilunarnebula They listen Unheard right? But given their most profitable liver basically revolted, they kinda bended. That's why niji jp has been at peace for the most part Now its different, niji is a giant corpo. All ibsaw if mito leaves, its over
@Oneiroi03 ай бұрын
A little correction. ID branch have behind the scene support. Webcomic, Videos, Events, Fan merch, etc are all managed by ID management. The reason why ID is one of the vocal group of people hating Kurosanji cuz them using the reason of "Mismanagement"(untrue) and Financial growth is little(basically Kurosanji wanted to focus pure money).
@gymbmymb34653 ай бұрын
@@Oneiroi0 I noticed the ID branches in most vtuber companies are very tight-knit and their communities have a lot of overlap, I really respect that. Heres to ID talents having the best fans, cheers.
@4RILDIGITAL3 ай бұрын
It's really disheartening to hear about the unfair treatment of talent by such a massive organization. The importance of transparency, respect, and fairness can never be overemphasized. Hopefully, this highlights the need for changes within the industry.
@ambasing_omaygot2 ай бұрын
Whatever you say bot we never cared
@AccordingtoJim2 ай бұрын
CEO looks like a punk you beat up in the tutorial fight in a yakuza game
@oreki223 ай бұрын
"She included our personal information and locations in a legal document." Yeah, obviously, because thats how legal documents work. The courts/legal system isn't going to refer to them as their personas that the companies own. It's like if someone was sueing Daniel Radcliffe and he got upset that they weren't addressing him as Harry Potter instead.
@livecarsonreaction3 ай бұрын
Imagine having to be a lawyer for Voldemort
@olivierdubreuil-gagnon22013 ай бұрын
@@livecarsonreaction”Your Honour, my client, He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named, is suing Mr. Potter for doxxing and slander.” “All I said was Voldemort killed Cedric Diggory.”
@SomeoneOnTheInternet_DM3 ай бұрын
It sounds goofy cuz it's a script that failed and backfired lmao
@NateLeonhart3 ай бұрын
@@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201 I would watch this series.
@dragb92843 ай бұрын
Reminder the elira is literally on a work visa with niji. So yeah that’s something to hold over her head.
@ZodiacBoi423 ай бұрын
A company stealing, abusing, and literally causing a person to attempt suicide. That’s disgusting.
@dopesickdog3 ай бұрын
par for the course tbh. MANY people feel entitled to exploit young folks for all they're worth - time, money, sexual gratification, dependence - all for the crime of... being too innocent & trusting to call adults on their BS.
@Sundablakr3 ай бұрын
Par for the course from a big Japanese company tbh.
@MultiChrisjb3 ай бұрын
Well your phone was probably made in a factory where some of the employees have committed suicide from the shithouse conditions in some 3rd world country.
@Spid3yTCG3 ай бұрын
Capitalism!
@lyncharles48563 ай бұрын
the social culture of the leads of that company. you would think it was an american public school
@1ternityMind2 ай бұрын
Ninji: corrupt Hololive: lovable Phase connect: "JUST GIVE ME MY OWN MARINE, but nonetheless i love all my little goblin trolls"
@braindead20003 ай бұрын
Dokibird did another statement today and I felt my heart sink to my stomach reading it to the end
@nowfear3 ай бұрын
Like to elaborate?
@celebisonm42713 ай бұрын
@@nowfearApparently it wasn’t one unalive attempt but TWO
@toospooky0513 ай бұрын
Nijisanji: "pls no bully" Also Nijisanji: "lol doxing is fun look guys watch"
@yuiyanamoto3 ай бұрын
That's a Wactor move right there
@Beanzops3 ай бұрын
I eat the cotton candy from my walls
@tezzla63583 ай бұрын
very random and funny@@Beanzops
@PixelPixie863 ай бұрын
Kurosanji: “It’s okay when we bully people, but you better be nice to us!”
@long_dennis3 ай бұрын
@@Beanzopsme too It has such a crunchy texture
@69yuuki693 ай бұрын
when mika announced her graduation she mentioned that when she decided to leave she found out that the whole year already had people set to graduate that hadn't been announced and she had to wait a looong time for hers since they don't want it all to happen at once which is crazy
@theglobalwarming60813 ай бұрын
"iTs EaSy tO GrAdUaTe" my ass
@eaglefg3 ай бұрын
I wonder if that's why they didn't give Selen that option. "We don't want her anymore, but we don't want to wait for her to graduate either."
@garfieldandfriends13 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was done so their stock price doesn't tank like crazy. Yeah, they cared about their financial more than the talents' welfare.
@tristen97363 ай бұрын
I kinda figured what with the sort of one after another we've seen. Mika in December, Pomu in January, Kyo in February. It's pretty clear they're trying to spread them out to make it seem natural
@gohabs89183 ай бұрын
Man, this story was way too deep into the weeb realm for me, but thanks anyway Charlie
@JihadMuhammad-uk8ze3 ай бұрын
So this actually inspired me to seek legal action for a similar work issue im having. It sucks being harassed by someone you think is supposed to be looking out for you. Definitely subbing to doki
@geeseispluralforgoose3 ай бұрын
Best of luck for fair judgement for your case! Take care and rmb your rights as a human being.
@Koefficient3 ай бұрын
Oh boy…
@ReinKayomi3 ай бұрын
Oh shit Koe, what's up man?
@kawaiiaine49863 ай бұрын
To add to my comment too, don’t forget Yugo’s “graduation”. He wasn’t given a chance to say goodbye unlike all of the other graduations, and his account was suspended so he literally couldn’t even post a real goodbye. Nijisanji said publicly that he broke rules, but they were at least “kind” enough to say they wanted to part peacefully to save his reputation. Nijisanji is seeing that their ex talents are thriving without Nijisanji’s help and they don’t like that, so they’re tarnishing all of their current talent’s reputation so they can’t leave and succeed. They scheduled that “message from Nijisanji” stream during Doki’s first gaming stream on purpose. They chose Elira, one of Niji’s top female streamers, and Vox and Ike, their two top male streamers, on purpose. They chose Ike, who joined Nijisanji all because of his admiration for Selen, on purpose.
@kawaiiaine49863 ай бұрын
Not to mention, why would Ren express how truly upset and not okay he was with Selen’s termination, only to ask people to watch last night’s suspicious stream because of how “important” it was? It’s all so disgusting of the company. I just wish all of the talent to escape and succeed on their own.
@KingBobbito3 ай бұрын
Hey now, I'm pretty sure Luca is actually a bigger earner than Ike.... but oh wait, he's in his own drama right now too.
@CiCodiCadno3 ай бұрын
@@KingBobbitowhat drama? I dropped off the vtuber wagon a while ago, so I'm not up to date
@KingBobbito3 ай бұрын
@@CiCodiCadno there were receipts posted by his mod that merch that had his handwriting on it was actually written by someone else, and that they write all his scripts and ideas for boyfriend experience streams, and did a ton of his Minecraft building for him. Rumored to be his girlfriend, although this is the part that's less certain. He's honestly lucky the Selen situation is happening since it's drawing all the attention.
@CiCodiCadno3 ай бұрын
@@KingBobbito that sucks about the autographs. Tbh I'm not surprised about the scripting: there's only so much inventiveness in one person, so I'd be more surprised if any liver actually 100% constructed all of their own material. But the autographs suck- unless he has a disability stopping him from writing, that's not acceptable. Unless it was Kurosanji's idea? Like, getting all the merch to and from Australia/getting Luca to them to sign stuff was too expensive and they decided to cut corners?
@polken54183 ай бұрын
The plaque thing really throws me. YOU CAN BUY MULTIPLE PLAQUES!! Not only does Niji apparently not want to waste money on an extra plaque they won't even let the liver buy it if they want to. This is what hololive does they buy 2, one for the office and one to send to the talent. It's just pettiness, they don't think the liver deserves the plaque.
@sephtis3 ай бұрын
They probably got 4 for FuwaMoco as well, I bet they got 2 for the office.
@tkfsung3 ай бұрын
Afaik first one is free, every additional copy costs a hundred bucks... a completely incidental cost. I think Riku just likes rolling on them while laughing at the talents.
@justinlast2lastharder7493 ай бұрын
Liver Plaque is not something anyone should ever want, so they did them a favor in my opinion.
@ThatWhichObserves3 ай бұрын
@@tkfsung the waterjet channel or something cut theirs in half recently and they said it's like 700$ to get a new one shipped to you, even though through the company that makes them it's significantly less
@gottagoMS1233 ай бұрын
@@ThatWhichObservesthat's gold plaque. Silver is cheaper
@syrusalder77953 ай бұрын
Didn't know matara was in that sweatshop of a company in the past, feels bad man. She seems like a super chill person from what ive seen of her when bricky was chilling with her and the other vshojo girls. Theres so many terrible decisions happening at niji. Like, the merch? 1 or maybe 2 percent of something your every action advertisments, that nobody would want if not for you? Bruh. The bare minimum you should be getting is 20%, ideally at least 50%.
@warior71203 ай бұрын
Thank goddnes she already left that company
@skeletonentertainment42013 ай бұрын
as someone who watched Matara during her time in Nji, yeah it really does feel bad
@warior71203 ай бұрын
Matari ???
@leekspinner3 ай бұрын
One of the upsides of the modern days is that these types of corporate misconduct surfaces faster. I'm sure back in the 90s there were hundreds of idol agencies who had been getting away with worse stuff for entirety of their existence.
@shaneclark89033 ай бұрын
You're not wrong. Japanese vtubing agencies are based off the old idol agencies. It's why they are so controlling and brutal. This is the culture of they own you and your image...
@Ozai753 ай бұрын
Charlie absolutely nailed the Nijisanji CEO’s “apology” video was *absolutely* about investors. Nijisanji has bled 160+ million in value from their stock since Selen’s termination.
@robertocaballero10093 ай бұрын
and they call it "negligible"
@livecarsonreaction3 ай бұрын
The funny thing is even the investors aren't buying it. Both of the statements put out by the company last week were called unnecessary at best.
@scottbecker43673 ай бұрын
@@livecarsonreaction they were absolutely unnecessary. The bleeding was slowing down, and they decided to rip it wide open again.
@DaKdawg3 ай бұрын
Don't forget. Selen swept the Gamer of the Year awards at the 1st Vtuber Awards, hosted by Filian. Apparently it wasn't just her hardwork but also her greater financial sacrifice, where she promoted and thanked Nijisanji in her acceptance speeches for the opportunity and how she "Wouldn't be where she is if it wasn't for them." How is she damaging their reputation by promoting herself with a music video she had perms and payed for? This situation is crazy. I'm just catching up to the livestream shit show from last night...this is getting more wild? How?
@Claudekr3 ай бұрын
The music video wasn't the issue (well, it sort of was - management didn't want it released for some reason, the current hypothesis is that it featured then-graduated livers who may have said some bad things about the company since they left, I'm not sure) - but Selen herself basically said "management" took down the video, and tried to make it look like it was their fault the mess happened. Which, maybe she's right, but either way it does make them look incompetent, which was a theme with Selen. She would try to host some fun event with her own money, allude to the fact that Niji wouldn't pay for it or were trying to trip her up with nonsense red tape, and management would smack her somehow by banning her from hosting tournaments, or pulling down her videos, or whatever it is. The mere act of constantly getting into fights with management like that is understandably damaging to their reputation, although not nearly to the degree as the shitstorm they've created now.
@y.b42513 ай бұрын
Japanese power tripping is scary.
@Diamond12343 ай бұрын
@@Claudekr And the way Nijisanji reacted to her "making them look bad" made them look worse, even evil because the way they used their VTubers as meatshields to take the hit after the backlash to them kicking her after her attempt on her life. Funny how that works. That whole honor thing is really biting them in the butt, huh?
@gemgem-hl7ii3 ай бұрын
Just a quick note, it's 'paid' instead of 'payed.' 'Paid' is the correct past tense and past participle of 'pay.' While "payed" does exist as a word, its usage is specific to nautical terminology, referring to the sealing of the seams of a ship's planking with pitch or tar. In general language and finance contexts, "paid" is the correct term.
@Claudekr3 ай бұрын
@@Diamond1234 Some of what they said was scripted and might make it seem like the only reason they were there was to protect the company, but Vox in particular seemed to be airing personal grievances that it would seem very odd for Niji management to have written. I'm not convinced they were thrown out as meatshields so much as Niji wanted to make a retaliatory statement and they offered to be the faces of it. Remember there is no reason this could not have been on the Niji English channel, it was on Elira's.
@erossenpai28843 ай бұрын
Kurosanji: "You aren't that girl, Dokibird. Our finances will face no problem." Doki: "Bet."
@lyokohero3 ай бұрын
The merch sales thing is normal in japan unfortunately. Demon Slayer made over 500milion one year, but they still pay the animates like $10 an hour. The payment structure in Japan is criminal.
@DatGuyWhoPlays3 ай бұрын
This is no longer drama. It's a full blown SCANDAL
@dmpokemontrainer3 ай бұрын
Nijigate
@ST0AT3 ай бұрын
Clown fiesta, if you will
@saber28023 ай бұрын
Quite possibly a legal battle too.
@chainsawlizard95283 ай бұрын
Also note that Matara Kan (Nina Kosaka) and K9 Kuro (Mysta Rias) were both extremely relieved to find themselves in Vshojo. Matara herself commented that it was incredibly uplifting to not have to compete for company resources alongside other talents, and actually have a management team that backs her up and supports her projects, implying that she did not have much of either while she worked for Niji. This paints a very bleak picture for how Niji operates.
@stupidheadwisp3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Matara even said that she nearly cried because her new management was actually treating her like a person ;(
@BrownRicePaddy3 ай бұрын
@@Steveatetheicecream bros been spamming this comment everywhere, chill out
@SkibidiLeakz3 ай бұрын
@@stupidheadwisp The main reason the company is in this condition is because of the pants they made. They made pants for males which hid their piggy and they made a pants for women which has a built in piggy. They got huge backlash.
@stupidheadwisp3 ай бұрын
@@SkibidiLeakz what?...
@muriias45233 ай бұрын
@@SkibidiLeakzbro wtf are u saying lol
@hykotamaprojectrequiem3 ай бұрын
When i heard The 'Message from Nijisanji' clip video, it genuinely sounded like Vox was trembling and sweating. After losing pretty much all of their MVP livers.. how much more can they do before they call it quits.
@xeroack75603 ай бұрын
Any Ceo should know this and remember it well, they are not the pillar holding the business they have up, the workers/employees they hired are the ones holding up the business.
@magentalizard12503 ай бұрын
"The impact this will have on the company will be negligible." *That one didn't age quite so well...*
@thibaud13303 ай бұрын
Ummmm tekshnically the termination didn't have that much of a financial impact by itself, it's the shitstorm surrounding it🤓
@R_Caine3 ай бұрын
And it aged faster than expected.
@giannicolamatteo81553 ай бұрын
Its like a record company loosing one artist, if they have multiple artists then indeed financially it would be bareable , but they made it financially damageing by going after her instead of just let It Go, she had allready said she was satisfied and ready to move on so they could have just let things be
@UltimaKeyMaster3 ай бұрын
@@thibaud1330 That still is not something you ever let out in a public statement. Ever. That's saying the quiet part out loud.
@runman6243 ай бұрын
What is negligible? I think my English is sucking so my bad
@czaczaczar3 ай бұрын
Their talents are playing Lethal Company irl.
@Zack_Zander3 ай бұрын
That's an insult to Lethal Company
@ManjigumiVirus3 ай бұрын
with niji skin mod
@RU-rx3ef3 ай бұрын
This is an insult to the company, and we love the company.
@snarkybug4Ай бұрын
Good comment
@reversalmushroom3 ай бұрын
13:21 "her unalive attempt" I guess KZbin won't let us say SUICIDE.
@ygthemoth94253 ай бұрын
They legit age restrict videos for the mere mention of it now, crazy stuff.
@TehFoamy3 ай бұрын
I love how the livers' forced statement said "the document contained personal info about us that could lead to doxxing!!" like lmao yeah, and it was a private document that was ONLY meant to be seen by Selen/Dokibird, her lawyer, and Niji's lawyers. It's laughable that they're trying to spin this to imply that Selen was threatening to doxx other livers when the repercussions for doing so would be utterly catastrophic for her
@Zack_Zander3 ай бұрын
Even if it was forced, it still leaves a bad taste that they went out to do so. If they had revealed that it was forced, they would’ve likely gotten more support from the community. Now that they outed themselves (even if they’re not the bullies), I can not see them receiving any more support other than from their “die-hard fans” if Nijisanji were to collapse or if they are terminated/graduated as the situation worsens.
@fanti8883 ай бұрын
@@Zack_Zander bruh. Forced means FORCED. did you not watch the video and completely zone out on the part that says "Nijisanji rules with an IRON FIST with terrible contracts?" You shouldn't say stuff like this when you have absolutely zero knowledge regarding their current contracts and circumstances. ie. Elira is working in Japan under a visa. If she refuses to do what Nijisanji tells her to/goes out of line, they could easily fire her, and she'd lose her visa. they did not "go out to do so" of their own accord. and how do you even know IF they can reveal that it was forced.
@Vexas3453 ай бұрын
@@fanti888Yeah, it sucks the company forced them to do something illegal and immoral. But sometimes doing the right thing is hard. If you're only moral when it's easy, what kind of person are you? "Just following orders" isn't an excuse.
@fanti8883 ай бұрын
@@Vexas345 sorry, this is some of the most ignorant stuff I’ve heard regarding this topic. This is real life. Do you think these people can afford to violate their contract, possibly lose their job, and face additional consequences because of morals? So many people are saying stuff like “do the right thing.” As if it’s that easy??? If you were to do the “right thing” and would have ended up losing your Japan visa, having your entire life upended, losing your job and tons of money, I’m sure that you’d be having some difficulties. Not everyone in the world can afford to do this kind of thing bc of “morals”, especially if it can ruin your life and leave you several thousand in debt (just a comparison, not something totally accurate) This also slightly reminds me of a case in Japan where this old and dead guy named Johnny or smth took advantage of his extremely powerful position in the J-pop community to rape/SA/etc. young boys and idols who worked for him. And then people ask shit like “why couldn’t they have spoken out? Why couldn’t they have said anything sooner?” Bc of the CONSEQUENCES. This man was so powerful that he could have blacklisted them from the industry and completely ruined their lives in an instant. People who did speak up got slapped with lawsuits and terrible consequences, and then faded to obscurity/badmouthed for telling the truth bc this guy was just THAT powerful. Now compare this to circumstances like nijisanji being a black company. Once again, I’m not saying that this is anywhere near the same thing, but it does hold similarities. this is real life. Please understand the potential consequences these people face before saying ignorant stuff like this. Nijisanji is called a “black company” for a reason. There are people who simply can’t afford to do this.
@Vexas3453 ай бұрын
@fanti888 Yes, this is real life. Almost everybody can find justification for their bad actions. Again, though, if you only do the right thing when it's easy or convenient, you aren't really that committed to being a good person. If you're willing to hurt other people for your own well-being, that's like the literal definition of selfishness. And I'm not saying she wasn't forced to by the company. They only stream when the company allows them to, so that's probably the case. Yes, she can be fired and lose her visa. But you know who has already been through the stressful situation of being fired, and worse. The person she went after.
@Amehame...3 ай бұрын
Yagoo congratulating pekora on her achievements and Tazumi exploiting her talents is the Barbenheimer of 2024
@lilsp82693 ай бұрын
you are a poet
@fungalsnoot16553 ай бұрын
Pekora is the reason for Nijisanji's fall. She wants us all to forget that she bought a monkey. This is all part of her plan.
@randomexeter36273 ай бұрын
@@fungalsnoot1655 The F'in Monkey could run Niji's PR better than whoever is doing it now.
@faisfaizal51943 ай бұрын
On one side, you have a guy flexing his new yacht, while the other side, built a multimillion dollar studio to accomodate their talents. That alone should tell you what their priorities are
@amspook3 ай бұрын
@@faisfaizal5194 Tazumi is flexing his yacht Yagoo is flexing their state of the art 3d scanner, case in point, the fried chicken in that medley music video
@mrravinraven3 ай бұрын
I just want to add, Selen's access to her socials was removed on the 26th of December. The statements made after that date were not Selen's words, those words were the company's under the guise of Selen posting it herself.
@evanblake52523 ай бұрын
It's always so textbook. Always so obvious when it's just "we're sorry we got caught" or "we're sorry the truth got out". Well, hopefully the PR shitstorm and decline of the company, and the legal battle are enough to at the very least get them to straighten up and fly right for a while.
@RRed193 ай бұрын
If they were truly sorry, they’d actually get fucking PUNISHED with something by the law.
@evanblake52523 ай бұрын
@@RRed19 I don't think their level of apologeticness correlates with their legal penalties in any way at all. I don't think this is going to go well for them. I don't get what you're saying.
@AyaYuuhi3 ай бұрын
As someone who used to be a huge fan of their ID branch who got fucked over in favor for profits I can't say I didn't see this coming.....
@farequinas56153 ай бұрын
Yeah, what's really sad is that the ID branch (both livers and managements) are very eager for growth. They're also the true unironically "family" in Niji. The proof is that those graduated livers are still meeting up to hang out and play games with each other now on their youtube channel.
@GeneralBrwni3 ай бұрын
The best part of this all "After a rigorous legal check, ANYCOLOR Inc. hereby declares that it has not made any confidentiality violations while checking the validity of claims made by Selen and her lawyer with its affiliated Livers." They can't be in legal trouble, they *hereby declared it.*
@askylibrarianoftheoceans41023 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, every lawyer in Canada is all "damn, I wish I was Doki's lawyer..." because goddamn the settlement will be glorious - when you employ a Canadian resident, you're subject to Canadian labour laws, and they are extremely strict, and equal to everyone. As a bonus, Niji can escalate all they want, but they'll never reach a point where it becomes too expensive for Selen to continue because _that's not how it works in Canadian legal affairs._ The lawyer works on contingency - they only get paid when the plaintiff gets paid (and only 40% of the total settlement maximum, a percentage that's decided before proceeding to trial). In short, they can hereby declare whatever the fuck they want, but they're still hilariously guilty, and they _will_ pay.
@toystoryteletubbyism97223 ай бұрын
“We investigated ourselves, and found us to be not guilty”
@ArcanistShion3 ай бұрын
@@askylibrarianoftheoceans4102Canadian Court is gonna be a real pain in the ass for them lmao.
@Outlander193 ай бұрын
The council has invoked a special comitee formed of its members so as to ascertain whether it was guilty or not. The comitee has decided the council was not guilty of any infractions
@serdna1023 ай бұрын
@@Outlander19 yeah but the special committee is still just them lol
@leoscrymgeour58813 ай бұрын
Even Charlie is covering this drama it’s so fucking over for them
@leoscrymgeour58813 ай бұрын
@@Deynox38who?
@league-of-lias3 ай бұрын
naw FR I'd shut down after this
@Kurimi133 ай бұрын
@@Deynox38 purchase advertisement
@rexx50313 ай бұрын
Seems he used some decent sources of info here. I could pick out things that probably deserve further context, but it was better than a lot of the videos I've seen on the topic from people not in the know.
@Beanzops3 ай бұрын
I eat the cotton candy from my walls
@KBDawg19903 ай бұрын
Don't know if you have read Doki's LATEST tweet but holy shit... it gets even WORSE. Turns out that Selen/Dokibird made not just ONE attempt on her own life but TWO.... fuckin' TWO attempts. And imagine having to watch your father break down and cry in front of you. Yeah... that's how bad things got... Absolutely awful stuff. 😢
@Rezilism3 ай бұрын
i still hear someone defend that 2% merch revenue and i cant even fathom
@Mutualititve3 ай бұрын
Kurosanji is on fire while Hololive is all sunshine and rainbow right now. It is even funnier when you see that on Hololive side, Hololive has just terminated one of their oldest talents, and it was taken by fans as by far, the most peaceful and good natured termination ever. While on Niji side, every termination and graduations in just the past 2 months has been the most chaotic and slanderous in all of Vtubing history, just behind the likes of WACTOR.
@ZXUmi3 ай бұрын
another point about the recent hololive termination was that they really didn't want to do it, but knew they had to since breaking nda is a very huge no-no, especially in japan. they even let the vtuber in question, yozora mel, make a statement about it on twitter before she said goodbye to everyone. it was 1000× more well-recieved than whatever nijisanji did with the terminations of both zaion/sayu & selen/doki
@OwinBlazer3 ай бұрын
@@ZXUmiif Mel breaking NDA is already a big nono, niji revealing private legal documents is definitely a bad look... Makes me feel like gaijins of EN are treated as second class citizens with little rights
@Savescreen3 ай бұрын
@@OwinBlazer If you are a non japanese person working for a japanese company like this you are in for a time. 100% treated worse and not just Niji is doing so.
@Kro-RissaVirus3 ай бұрын
Yep. Guaranteed by this time next year NijiSanji EN (at the least) will be completely gone. Probably even sooner given the scope of this situation.
@Helmir3 ай бұрын
Adding to that, Mel also said on her own personal account that she fucked up. In the end it's just really unfortunate.
@Umbrox-573 ай бұрын
One detail I find absolutely messed up that was brought up in the video you referred was that when the company handed out their termination notice to Selen publicly they self reported on something that’s just dark to think about; They took control of her twitter account while she was recovering from her suicide attempt. Those tweets of her basically saying ‘I’m ok guys, see you all soon, teehee’ were NOT Selen. It was the bosses trying to save face from the fact of one of their own employees being pushed to that point because of said employee working for them. That’s just messed up.
@thelordelric84243 ай бұрын
They way Nijisanji as a whole (management and other livers) have downplayed Selen's suicide attempt is sickening.
@doctoraquisio79573 ай бұрын
dragoons found that before (iirc it was before the termination) they admitted taking control of her account just by noticing the " ' " were different in those tweets. But in corpo vtuber scene it's not too dark since they own everything and can do anything they want. it's just not so ethically correct
@YukiMurakumo3 ай бұрын
@@doctoraquisio7957 that part about the apostrophe was confirmed to not be due to skinwalking (which they have done and should not be ignored) but due to the difference in the apostrophe used by Windows and an iPhone. The tweets with the "incorrect" apostrophe were from her phone right after she got out of the hospital, likely because she didn't have access to her computer at the time for whatever reason and wanted to address her fans ASAP since she knew everyone knew what happened. Unless there's more information beyond that point, I'm pretty sure that's the last conclusion speculators have come up with on the matter.
@yook15643 ай бұрын
@@YukiMurakumoThe maujin video Charlie references at the start confirms it by overlapping the date of the tweets and when niji’s statement says she was stealth suspended and lost social media access
@doctoraquisio79573 ай бұрын
@@YukiMurakumo I actually didn't know/heard about that but the time line supports the theory tbh (my first comment was from my pc and this one was from phone)
@TheJmd90173 ай бұрын
I think it was Kson who alluded to getting 50% of merch sales when she was working with Hololive, only 1-2% is downright robbery.
@warior71203 ай бұрын
And hope she get that in vshojo as well
@farequinas56153 ай бұрын
@@warior7120 Vshoujo is different. The talents get 100% of superchats (after twitch cut) while Vshoujo gets 100% of merch.
@wilianrodrigues52803 ай бұрын
This entire situation truly made me realize how toxic the Japanese work culture is. I thought America loved its companies but to think companies could be that toxic and force its own stars to accept only 2%…
@runajain57733 ай бұрын
It already term as black companies
@bruv75213 ай бұрын
I never thought the name “Zaion Lanza” would be uttered by charlie’s mouth lmao. All this time she’s been ridiculed, they hated her for telling the truth and look where she is now.
@JG-nc5yf3 ай бұрын
saddly there are still people hating/harassing her despites her debunking a lot of stuff and apologizing about the things she did do wrong I really do feel bad for her and she never really got support for a long time after her situation
@tabinekoman3 ай бұрын
the girl must be laugh bitterly.
@Azusashusband3 ай бұрын
@JG-nc5yf what did she apologize for? I don't know about anything she did that is worth apologizing for
@Azusashusband3 ай бұрын
@@SkibidiLeakz i think im out of the loop here. What exactly did that community do to be considered horrid?
@MeButYoutube3 ай бұрын
Honestly I feel so bad for her. Maybe she has fucked up as well (we don't know), but for the love of god she was right. Everyone that didn't listen and harassed her should feel ashamed of themselves!!
@Berstain_3 ай бұрын
Those PR/Lawyer team on Nijisanji side can't catch a fucking break, even Charlie is shitting on them too 💀
@Beanzops3 ай бұрын
I eat the cotton candy from my walls
@fledthehunter52933 ай бұрын
@@Beanzops What does it taste like?
@logikx13253 ай бұрын
@@fledthehunter5293 The saltwater flooding in and turning the yatch into a submarine I'd expect
@gottagoMS1233 ай бұрын
What PR team lol
@deedr12343 ай бұрын
It's not even that, I'm willing to bet the pr people at this company are quitting and going to another company. Cause this isn't salvageable.
@isqqcc6 күн бұрын
charlie's analogies get me EVERY TIME BRO 😭😭 "A VOLTORB OBSESSED WITH ONLY USING THE MOVE SELF DESTRUCT"
@Happykastle3 ай бұрын
I wasn’t surprised, the way streamers have been leaving/terminated (AKA graduating) the company just shows how much they don’t care for their employees.
@flameofthegame3 ай бұрын
And if people think the CEO only has millions ,no my dudes ,this guy is a billionaire and literally scams people with those 98& splits.
@papascrumpeeh3 ай бұрын
soo fken true
@railgum73923 ай бұрын
ONLY 2%? GODDAMN. its not even a split, its just a breadcrumb.
@jabbawookeez013 ай бұрын
i mean mans about to lose billions. his company lost millions of dollars in worth and its still sinking, he is going to have to put money to fix it and get back to where he was.. if he makes it back
@Jose-rc3dl3 ай бұрын
Wtf, a vtuber company can make billions?? That is insane
@biggsviii16523 ай бұрын
@@Jose-rc3dl wake up old man this isn't the early 2000s with cable tv
@chomosuke07203 ай бұрын
When the Black Company is being covered by the White Shirt, y'know it's officially mainstream
@Beanzops3 ай бұрын
I eat the cotton candy from my walls
@wishiwasaneet268163 ай бұрын
The trifecta of you done fucked up: Internet Jesus, the Bald Man and It's Him Mutahar making a video about your shenanigans on the same day.
@ilikezturtlez63963 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for Zaion because she was so sad about the people she considered friends in that company to backstab her n talk bad on her name and see other members say they are nothing without Nijisanji, how low their mental was that they couldn’t see their own talent was the reason they were popular in Nijisanji
@i_liek_bois24 күн бұрын
"graduating" is such an evil way to phrase leaving a corporation
@hedmeddig3 ай бұрын
We in the Vtuber community, has known about Niji's bad reputation for a long time, but people still wanted to support the talents themselves, which is why Niji has survived so long, it was a powder keg waiting to explode, and Seleln's termination was the spark
@livedandletdie3 ай бұрын
I'm sad that it sparked now, and not in 2021 when all the Non-EN and JP branches got Effed hard. And the only OG ID member worth watching left last year as well. Mika Melatika, she was last heard speaking in one of Vshojo's K9kuro's streams as "friend". It's the trash of trash companies.
@user-vc63 ай бұрын
These agencies literally rely on that ‘we’re helping the person/ talent ’ to completely exploit talent to maximum degree while minimizing risk. They own everything and thus your 99% helping the company vs 1% to the person… no company would take on such risk and behave this way unless they could use innocent waifu’s ( the nature of the fans para social relationship is important, it’s like the childhood love interest vs regular person) as a shield!
@oofgottarunn3 ай бұрын
unfortunatly they still have a lot of stans willing to support them simply because of their oshis choosing to stand with nijikuro.
@tiramusi3 ай бұрын
The stans supporting their oshi to be abused by the shitty corpo aren't helping anybody but the corpo itself.
@Person012343 ай бұрын
This mentality needs to stop. If a company is garbage, stop using them. The employees will find other jobs in other places. Nobody would keep using Walmart because they "want to support the employees", ditch this parasocial garbage when it comes to entertainers. I get the impulse but you have to make your own decisions on whether the company is worth supporting. On the other side of things, if the people working for them aren't happy with their conditions they should leave. I'm so sick of this culture of complete non-accountability we have nowadays where we're all just supposed to feel sorry for everyone all of the time because life is hard. Life is hard for everyone. You have to man up and make the hard choices you know are right, not the easier ones that you know are wrong.
@firebrony1013 ай бұрын
I'd argue this all started WAY before Selen's music video. I'd say the catalyst was when we were first made aware of their practices via a leak that happened a year back when we found out they did shadow suspensions of their talents under the guise of them "taking vacations" or "breaks" as well as how bad and utterly incompetent their management truly was.
@greenphoenix73653 ай бұрын
Sayu/zaion was the spark, the thing is the fire only going wild now since everything just allign with well... Everything
@jjQlLlLq3 ай бұрын
Definitely, this is fact, not opinion. The MV was just the tipping point, the last straw. Ask anyone who've been following the situation for much longer than when it blew up cuz of the MV and the events that followed. That explanation video is incomplete.
@addminustraitor85143 ай бұрын
Way earlier than that. It starts from the IN ID KR branch dissolved and multiple graduates from the branch. Getting worst when the 3D live is cancelled and Niji pumping the debut of vtubers.
@Natsuxc743 ай бұрын
it did, did u actually watch the video lmao
@waifudestroyer21203 ай бұрын
It goes even further beyond. i personally took that leaked discord group dm bashing holo council as a massive red flag. Before that point, my opinion of them was pretty neutral.
@laszloneumann5003 ай бұрын
These companies are literal pimps for the digital courtesans
@hentron4203 ай бұрын
I gotta say, using the voltorb and self destruct analogy really put it into perspective for me. Thanks Charlie!
@Helmir3 ай бұрын
On the other side of the "vtuber titan" companies with Hololive/Cover: Cover's CEO actually told a stakeholder that was commenting on how the merch sharing % talents get isn't good for the profit of the company, that the talents are paid what they're worth. Imagine working for a place that isn't trying to bleed its employees dry. Thank you to Yagoo and Cover for not being Niji. They also send the talents their play buttons btw.
@thejamesonthestreet3 ай бұрын
They fucked up a lot of times in 2020. But, they learn from their mistake, owning up to it, fix whatever they could, and move on. No dogpiling or doubling down to make themselves look good.
@thegemguy13343 ай бұрын
The Fuwamoco channel is used by a pair of twin. And Holo get a button for each sister.
@EllaKarhu3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be too quick to lick Cover's boots. They don't pull shit like this, cause they're actually competent and know how to turn a profit. Not because of some moral compass.
@jigarpatel96383 ай бұрын
Hololive also invests a lot more in it's vtubers, they made one of the biggest motion capture studios in Japan, it costed them 20 mil USD and is made specifically for vtubing and even has different studios to record songs which was requested by the talents. Not to mention they always try to create more opportunities and project's for them, last year they had a whole album with Deco Nina this year they are collaborating with Honeyworks for another album, as well as with Universal music for another music project.
@Ltp13053 ай бұрын
@@thejamesonthestreet Yeah, Even at their worst, you can at least assume that management mean well Fucking hell, is not like Hololive is immune to fucking up (Hitomi, Aloe, Rushia, the entire Coco saga, Mel, etc..). But they still try to get better.
@DjuraValtr3 ай бұрын
You know you fucked when Baldy and Jesus talks about how bad you're doing.
@neglevin3 ай бұрын
who’s baldy
@ablackbunny31493 ай бұрын
@@neglevinI think asmongold?
@trillsaber88793 ай бұрын
And mutahar is gonna release a video too
@TheGamer-ko7eg3 ай бұрын
Now we need Coffezilla and the drama trio is complete
@onyxblack11673 ай бұрын
@@TheGamer-ko7egmost of his content is about fraud and scam right?
@suzanneclark77063 ай бұрын
Nijisanji feels like the type of company in the Christmas movies that would try to cancel Christmas
@Jenna2k24 күн бұрын
Good for her. Glad she spoke out. Sometimes exposing horrible people is worth being sued.
@rift10673 ай бұрын
I should mention that the Reddit summary missed out on a key event that actually signaled itself as an omen of things to come, and it was the termination of a liver named Yugo Asuma (now goes by the indie handle "Unnämed") many months before Zaion's termination. Part of the reason most people overlook it is due to how obscure the series of exchanges were - very much unlike how they handled the ones that followed. I feel it's very important to mention this because Yugo's termination gave the company the confidence and a sense of security that they can get away with shit like this. That bit is evident with how much bolder and more obnoxious they kept getting with each consecutive termination statement going forward.
@joyboy82803 ай бұрын
Im so sad nobodys mentioning him, youre literally the 1st comment out of a Dozenten videos ive watched on this matter
@ellenation22943 ай бұрын
@@joyboy8280 its cus honestly after looking at all terminations he did not deserve it cus he really didn't do anything too hardcore. Its again nijisanjis weird ass rules that they enforce at times and not in others. When he go terminated I was so frustrated and he wasn't even my oshi. I was so shocked by it, the way they left us hanging and from that point I stopped checking nijisanji out and thank god I did cus the shitstorm that happened and is happening ---OMG.
@joyboy82803 ай бұрын
@@ellenation2294 its sad man. I dont want him forgotten. May he be remembered along with the rest of ex-kurosanji's
@mikoposter3 ай бұрын
what reason did they give for yugo's termination
@whthghb243 ай бұрын
It was framed as a graduation and the only major issue I remember hearing about was a drunk stream where fans were misidentifying him which caused a liver to come into vc and calm him down this isn't the first time it has happened since even around debut it was going on but things got intense if I remember@@mikoposter
@infinacity3 ай бұрын
The "Yacht" thing is just a meme that popped out of 4 chan since thats typically what millionaires do. This is in contrast to Hololive's *2.7 billion yen* studio they have invested for their talents. Also 2% is not the norm. Hololives cut is 50% or more, with the talents having most of the creative liberty on what the merch would be with the company taking care of the production and contacts. They also get a standard salary aside from the superchats, so this gives them stable income that they can actually get by regardless of performance.
@infinacity3 ай бұрын
An example of that creative liberty is Yukihana Lamy's Sake merch that she herself was heavily involved in the process of making and deciding the taste of the sake. It was described as "A Koji and rice malt-driven sake with rose and melon, pollen and cherry blossom. Savoury and fresh." During the International Wine Challenge 2023 (IWC).
@Oneiroi03 ай бұрын
@@infinacitythere is also Laplus hot sauce Lolll
@slackjaw15253 ай бұрын
I believe it started when people analyzed why they spent so much on paying taxes and then it was revealed that they were barely investing anything and were just hoarding money so people started to joke around about the money actually being spent on a yacht.
@tarot30783 ай бұрын
@@infinacityI’m still grumpy that I’m never going to be able to taste her sake.
@JohnWick-rh1zz3 ай бұрын
Remember when marine wanted to sell tissue box cover as merch so whenever people use tissues they will always see her, too bad we didnt get that
@Queen_Myrrh3 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this! I knew a bit about it, but you had a lot more knowledge on the situation than I did!
@FutureMan420Blazer3 ай бұрын
1 thing. Hololive bought 3 youtube buttons in case of Fuwamoco. 1 for the HQ and one for *each of them* because they are 2 persons. (and they barely cost anything, a few 100$ maybe ~ compared to multimillion $ companies)
@Hjutner3 ай бұрын
One thing that the loremaster missed regarding Pomu was before she left one of her membership VODs (maybe all of them? I'm not sure) was made public. And in one of them she mentioned how she in her own words "missed out on a once in a lifetime opportunity because it was denied to her." Obviously denied by management and no negotiations or anything were allowed even though she obviously wanted to do it.
@JJtoob3 ай бұрын
Just read in another comment referring to what I imagine is what you are taking about here, and it was a collab with Konami, which would be huge for anyone and heartbreaking if taken away, but even worse that it was passed off to another member? That's downright sinister.
@Hjutner3 ай бұрын
@@JJtoob She didn't mention exactly what the opportunity was for obvious reasons. But there was a lot of speculation it was related to MGS or Konami since she is a HUGE MGS fan and there was an announcement related to MGS around the time.
@Percy04123 ай бұрын
Not only that, once her long time members began to draw people attention to that VOD because they remembered the conversation and could freely talk about it since it was now public, management then re-privated that one singular members stream. Pomu made all of her members content public as she left, but when people began to look a little too close at a probable reason for her wanting to leave, management swept it under the rug and prayed people would forget.
@jake33w3 ай бұрын
All her members VODs were made public after her graduation as after KZbin cancels them the content disappears all talents are a lot more personal and less filtered on members content and she basically stated how upset she was with the way things turned out because of management decisions. That VOD got deleted specifically because of that as the other membership VODs are still up
@merick33953 ай бұрын
not denied they simply didnt care and did nothing
@UltimaKeyMaster3 ай бұрын
"Now that I'm fully caught up on the situation" I guarantee over the next six hours we won't be yet again.
@FallingPicturesProductions3 ай бұрын
Lawyers, dragoons, dramatubers, and /vt/: This can't possibly get any worse! Niji: SURE IT CAN!!! (aggressively pumps up paint bubble)
@valenciodiaz26443 ай бұрын
Lmao yeah, one week tops another issue will be revealed.
@baul9973 ай бұрын
Yes in fact it's possible scarlet is either graduating or getting terminated. She left a pretty cryptic message in her private account about seeing us soon again
@baul9973 ай бұрын
@@IllIlIIlIllI could really just mean she has been in the graduation waiting room for that long already
@SweetpeaRie3 ай бұрын
I’m always so grateful that you breakdown what’s going on so well! You are extremely talented! Thank you for doing this!!
@ErikaMariTakahashi3 ай бұрын
I didn't expect you made a video about this drama
@jagerbombasstic3 ай бұрын
NijiEN loses a member from each gen. Never gets breaks. HoloEN has lost 1 member due to personal circumstances and is still referenced and loved 2 years later within company. Gets long breaks, Gura didn’t stream for a year and Mumei literally left for a month to be with Doki. Shit is wild in the difference in company culture
@CompuBob3 ай бұрын
They do some breaks but we don’t know if they are real breaks or actually “stealth suspension breaks”.
@velveteensallet9493 ай бұрын
@@CompuBobBy their track record, it doesn't seem like they do stealth suspensions. There were those that thought they should have when Vesper got suspended, but in hindsight, it's good that they didn't.
@dcresistance3 ай бұрын
Mumei was on a break for a month before the music video was even released
@Nioclas643 ай бұрын
Doki deserves to be able to move on with her life after being bullied and harassed until she made an attempt, but her abusers just won't let her, they did this during her first gaming stream causing her to have a panic attack live in front of thousands of people, at least they self reported saying that the 3 of them and 2 others were in the lawsuit aka they were the ones named as bullying and harassing Selen, they claimed they weren't bullying her behind closed doors while they publically bully her, Doki's lawyer is getting so much free ammo from these abusive idiots.
@CJODell123 ай бұрын
If Doki doesn’t automatically win this lawsuit, there will be a bloodbath.
@sssS-ch8nr3 ай бұрын
Wait who did she say they bullied her?
@Hyvemynded3 ай бұрын
@@sssS-ch8nr the three of them on stream + enna and millie
@mimavolo96063 ай бұрын
@@sssS-ch8nr That's the MOST FUCKED UP PART, She didn't say ANYONE was bullying her, THEY DID in an attempt to get ahead of potential accusations, She just alleged workplace harassment vaguely AS A RESPONSE to their hitpiece of a termination notice
@Nioclas643 ай бұрын
@@sssS-ch8nr Elira Vox and Ike admitted to being listed in Selens legal document, and stated Millie and Enna were also in it, a legal document listing bullying and harassment allegations, aka they self-reported themselves and Millie/Enna as being the main abusers, otherwise they would not have been in the document or listed in the lawsuit.
@DexyD203 ай бұрын
This feels like how they do idols in Japan...
@Unknown14life3 ай бұрын
When Charlie goes over things I can understand the situation slightly better than other videos covering the same thing
@jagerbombasstic3 ай бұрын
Bruh the plaques is crazy. Holo the other big corpo buys 2-3 everytime. They bought three for the twins. Two for them and one for their wall. It’s like $100
@zuglymonster3 ай бұрын
I was just thinking to myself "can't they order two" when he was talking about the plaques, it's absolutely insane that they wouldn't even give them that
@yummycookies583 ай бұрын
That money can go to Riku's yacht instead, silly
@Neysiriss3 ай бұрын
Imagine allegedly forcing your workers to write a hitpiece on their ex-coworker/friend who just came out of hospital after an unaliving attempt
@Ducaso3 ай бұрын
What a flippantly wild way for management to behave.
@twentyonetortas59213 ай бұрын
Part of the reason why some people suspect they were coerced in a way was bc el1ra was in JP with a work visa and all so it might've been used against her. idk if this is true or not but honestly it's still messed up that the company had other livers involved. they could've had that 15min stream on their main channel and not a liver's and they should've kept Selen's papers private.
@0taku9122 ай бұрын
Nijisanji keeping the KZbin play buttons is so fucking petty. Hololive goes the extra mile and purchase a second play button--one for the talents and one for the office. Even better when Hololive bought two play buttons so the twins vtuber FuwaMoco each get their own.
@kirika1193 ай бұрын
I hope Selen is doing better; she’s awesome and so she is so good to her fans
@Tahanok23 ай бұрын
She's under the name Dokibird now. She seems to be doing fine and just wants all the drama stop.