What do Star Wars fans want from Star Wars? (And More "Lightning Response" Questions/Answers)

[@YegRon]

Well written stories with characters who behave in a consistent and logical manner made by people who want to celebrate the IP rather than putting as much of themselves into it as possible. That’s what I want.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same here💯💯💯

[@AKATenn]

What makes something well written? What story elements will make it well written? I think it's more like... stop making all the characters compete with each other when they're on the same team, make the use of the force and lightsabres more consistent, follow the pre-disney lore, no more power fantasy girl bosses, etc... something as nebulous and vague as just "better" really says nothing. It's kinda like calling tech support and saying "help, my computer won't turn on" there could be a hundred things wrong... so it's not a helpful thing to tell the tech guy... need to specify.

[@Deuteromis]

Don't forget cool saber duels and space battles.

[@allenzelt4481]

@@AKATennlike stop letting people survive getting impaled or cut in half by lightsabers!

[@GGBlaster]

@@allenzelt4481Hey now, friend, don’t go hatin’ on my man Maul. But, more broadly, I agree that there is an issue of too many people cheating death. Which is sad, because death can be an incredibly powerful plot device in fiction: Obi-Wan in ANH, Anakin in RotJ, Qui-Gon in TPM, Shmi in AotC. Even the slaughter of younglings spoke volumes to just how far Anakin had fallen (and that scene gets even more emotional as I age). TLDR: good fiction has compelling, emotional, and permanent deaths.

[@zacharyfett2491]

I know exactly what I want from Star Wars: A well written story which respects the lore and the legacy characters, and can introduce new characters and themes, WITHOUT dumbing down those legacy characters and themes.

[@hermittmog8697]

Competent, well written stories in a galaxy far far away that don't crap all over the OT or prequels. If it hits on classic star wars themes of family, redemption and hope all the better. Andor is probably the best of Disney Star Wars. The no one asked for this applies equally about Rogue One and fans mostly really liked that one.

[@dereklopez9060]

All I want is a well written and coherent story with compelling characters. It doesn't have to be perfect, but at least make sense. Apparently, it's too much to ask from Disney.

[@Milothemighty10]

Yeah, even from good things like the Jedi games I can’t help with be scared that the third game could potentially be not as great I still have hoping and I don’t wanna sound cynical just for the sake of it but still one change can make a difference and that may or may not be a good one…

[@achaudhari101]

It can be too much to ask since the perfection part is masked in those requests.

[@BibFortunasBarber]

@@achaudhari101learn to read, he literally says it doesn’t have to be perfect lmao

[@michaellane5381]

​@@Milothemighty10it will be worse, it's game 3 in a good series it can't be better than if everything is thrown at it by competent people, but there aren't more competent people or assets to throw at it, the IP isn't doing well enough to funnel more money or time, the question is if it will be noticeably worse or just "not as good" and if it has enough new stuff to make up for it.

[@achaudhari101]

@@BibFortunasBarber I've learned recently that's not always going to be the case. Sorry but at this rate, I think the fandom would expect perfection out of this franchise to start getting it off of life support.

[@tobywareing6435]

6:30 I like to think that Palpatine was to overconfident with himself which would also match what Luke says to him in ROTJ "Your over confidence is your weakness" Palpatine was to over confident with revealing himself to Anakin and then had to face 4 jedi masters. Windu beat him due to Palpatines over confidence and was close to failing for that small moment until Anakin arrived and eventually helped him out.

[@smartalec2001]

Palpatine's plan in Attack of the Clones is the same as his plan in The Phantom Menace. Stoke the sentiment of political corruption and lack of faith in the Senate, encourage a Separatist movement, cause a political flashpoint, spark a war that the Jedi have to get stuck in. He's just fast-tracking it the second time, because rather than slow-roll it like he did the first time, he's made sure both sides have huge armies ready to go to get it started right away. The trail of breadcrumbs that Obi-Wan follows does, indeed, seem deliberate. And, Palpatine knows exactly who screwed up his plan the first time: Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padme Amidala, Jar-Jar Binks, and Anakin Skywalker. So this time, he tricks them all into helping him.

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

I love democracy.

[@jeremyfields9009]

Attack of the clones is the worst political thriller ever

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Jar Jar Binks: Oh Riiiight Palpy, Yousa Manipulated me. All right Palpy. 'Hangs up phone.' 'Starts Laughing' 'Starts Evil Laughing.' 'Dons a Sith Robe and Starts Evil Laughing even more.'

[@petersanzen4106]

His plan in the prequels makes as much sense as his plan in the sequels

[@chingma8064]

His plan in the prequels makes about as much sense as his sequel plans- bullshit!

[@brandenmanuel2037]

I want Star Wars to be Star Wars That means well written characters, stories that have a lot of heart, space battles that make sense, lightsaber fights with good choreography and high stakes, tons of lore to chew on, references to past stories, and no bs from Disney. Basically go back to being an EPIC Space Opera

[@RaikenXion]

This can only happen when Kathleen Kennedy is gone from Lucasfilm, we still have a ways to go yet.

[@Milothemighty10]

@@RaikenXion even when she does inevitably leave it’s so long road from there, it won’t be like Moana, where restoring the heart will automatically fix everything there’s still a lot to be done…

[@RaikenXion]

@@Milothemighty10 Well i mean how i look it once she's gone all her ilk will be gone too, it will create a whole regime change within Lucasfilm. For all we know Jon Favreau could replace her, no one saw James Gunn literally running DC studios. Favreau has done everything right, even when he was interfered with and ordered (by Kennedy) to make drastic changes to his *Mandoverse* he did and never kicked up a stink or literally fell out with her or anyone. Even his Rangers spin-off got shelved by her, and he's carried on and stayed on good terms, Iger sees this, he knows because Favreau has made bank for Disney in the past, with both his Lion king and Jungle book remakes. He's even been given a Starwars movie of his own to helm, and that itself has been pushed up, ahead of even the Rey movie which itself, that character and that particular era was intended to lead the entire "Disney Starwars" franchise. That tells us alot.

[@RaikenXion]

@@Milothemighty10 I can see the leadership of Lucasfilm in the future being split, where one individual will run the entire *Creative* side of the company, the other will handle all the "Business" side of things. Disney, execs, shareholders and even Iger deep down are well aware of how much damage Kathy Kennedy has done to the brand, but they know they can't officially blame her for anything, or throw any ill-will her way because she's considered a darling of the industry, so they're just carrying on regardless, but Iger has took projects off of kennedy, he cancelled her project "Children of Blood & Bone, which was meant to be a adap of a Y/A novel, so that would have been woke anyway. But this shows if he has to Iger can halt any production Kennedy greenlights, and i think he has with many already because of all the stupid announcements Lucasfilm kept making, saying there's gonna be this movie, and that persons making a starwars movie. There is light at the end of this tunnel, but it's all down to this Rey movie i think, if that gets made, comes out and is just dismal, i mean does as bad as Indy 5 Dial of Disaster and The Marvels, to where it doesn't even break even or make it's money back from it's budget, that kind of failure would be soo catastrophically embarrassing to Kathleen Kennedy herself, she would out right step down from that; because the Rey movie is all her's, that character is her baby, so she's desperate to make that movie work, but i just can't see it happening. Majority of the fanbase are just too jaded and done with the Sequels, those movies caused way too much irreversible damage to the Saga and the Fandom as a whole, the only thing Disney can do logically now is move on from them. They won't not right now, because financially they've invested too much into the Sequels era. That's why they're trying to make one last go with this Rey movie, but i just think it will fail.

[@idawg7332]

I don’t need anymore Star Wars. The original trilogy ended well. The prequels are there for people who like it, the eu is there. Star Wars doesn’t feel special anymore because it’s been over saturated by Disney.

[@Kowkarot]

Good writing. That's all. I feel some people get confused when Andor is given so much praise, like they think we want more of that specific tone or genre, but it just so happens that Andor, with the style it tried, actually had good writing. It could've been anything really, but the quality is what made it shine. I wouldn't be surprised that, in the off chance Andor S2 becomes extremely successful, Disney will decide to start pooping new SW shows with the same tone, because they'll think that's what brought audiences, only for them to have the same mediocre writing as most things they make, so then they'll fail, and people will start asking themselves again "well, then what do people actually want from Star Wars?". I have my own preferences and wishes about what I would like to see from Star Wars, but that doesn't really matter if it's gonna suck, and I'll gladly enjoy something outside those preferences if it's good. One thing to consider though, one good show or movie is not gonna fix Star Wars. You need many of them. You need to slowly bring audiences back and rebuild trust. Destroying is easy and quick, but building is tedious and slow.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

Andor is too overrated and is definitely not good Star Wars.

[@lasercraft32]

What do we want from Star Wars? _Quality._ We want quality!

[@YegRon]

I loved Andor, and I hope we get more SW like it, but I wouldn’t want all of it to be of the same tone.

[@Slugnoramous]

THANK YOU! its like you took the words out of my mouth. i get unreasonably mad when people pull the "apples to oranges" argument, the point really seems to gone over their head. nothing to do with tone and setting, has everything to do with quality in writing, cinematography, dialogue, and vfx.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

@@Slugnoramous Cinematography? Dialogue? All of which are terrible in andor.

[@ericnetterville2108]

Well written stories which respect the stories and (perhaps most importantly) characters that came before. It shouldn't be that hard, really.

[@jasonreynolds6643]

George’s ending for his story was the one we got in ROTJ. The only reason he wrote Sequel treatments for Disney was because he knew they were going to make a new trilogy regardless so he wanted to try and have input on it. But the original intended ending was what we got in ROTJ.

[@jeremyfields9009]

Lucas been saying ROTJ was the ending for decades idk why fans keep wondering about his sequel plans. The fall of the empire is the definitive ending. also theres a interview with KK where she said that Lucas sequel outline seems like a story that was thrown together. also at Star Wars celebration 05 he said there was never any sequels and the prequels were never meant to become films. Star Wars 77 is the story he always set out to make from the start and he was lucky to do sequels to finish the main story.

[@saberiandream316]

George even said, in not so many words, that if you don't want to abide by what he says, there's the books and comics that he let grow under his leadership, and wouldn't you know it, that's literally the first thing Disney Star Wars purged, like the Empire.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

I don’t even know why fans would have wanted more movies after ROTJ. Everyone’s arcs all ended perfectly there.

[@jeremyfields9009]

@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 That’s the same thing Timothy Zahn said while explaining why the Thrawn trilogy wouldn’t work as sequels.

[@ZoeMalDoran]

My personal opinion has always been that Palpatine lost the lightsabre part of both his fights in Revenge of the Sith but won the Force parts. He probably could have beaten Mace with Force Lightning or other Force-based attacks even after Mace disarmed him, but with Anakin's arrival imminent, that didn't suit his purposes, so it's less a case of throwing the fight (Mace genuinely was better with the blade, and so was Yoda) and more a case of "Blast! There goes the lightsabre, but Anakin's right outside so I can just look helpless now instead of switching to Force attacks". As for how much of what happened was Palpatine's plans, I'd say he was very much like Katherine in The Vampire Diaries - "Did you really think I didn't have a Plan B? Or if that didn't work, a Plan C? And, well you know how the alphabet goes"

[@TheSlackrguy]

Great video! For me, I would have liked the expanded universe they tossed out. Please understand - the want is not a version of the expanded universe but the expanded universe with both Solo kids and stuff like that. This is not possible anymore - so there is not much Disney Star Wars can do for me story wise. I did not care for everything Lucas did with the property either. Like the RotJ special edition or limiting Jedi lightsaber colors in AotC. Right now, I want video games with attractive, customizable protagonists able to wield lightsabers of any colors. KOTOR, Jedi Academy, and the Old Republic are good games but have been around a while now.

[@Milothemighty10]

Thanks for answering my question Thor hope you and Naboo are doing OK and yes I do have faith in the third Jedi game. Most of the writers are staying around so that’s definitely nice but still I can’t help but fear that just one change could make a big difference and not a good one At this point the only thing I’m anticipating is bad batch season three andor season two and the third Jedi game after that well, to quote Cal kestis, “ I don’t know if I’m ready, I don’t know if I’m ready for what comes next” and I agree with that comment that you answered to Thor fallen order and survivor are some of my favorite things to come from Disney Star Wars…

[@miragewizard]

Here's what I want (or envisioned Disney doing with Star Wars when they bought it): Star Wars to return to the movies, and theatrical versions of the Timothy Zahn Trilogy "Heir to the Empire," a movie (or perhaps a series) on Darth Plagueis, a series of movies on Darth Bane, and a series on the Knights of the Old Republic that features Revan. But I'm afraid that if Disney touches any of that, then they'll ruin it. Perhaps a streaming series on the Rogue Squadron books.

[@jeremyfields9009]

I will never understand why fans think the Thrawn trilogy will make for a great sequel trilogy. Zahn himself said it wouldn’t and the sequels should focus on the next Gen.

[@miragewizard]

@@jeremyfields9009 I will never understand why some fans don't like it.

[@jeremyfields9009]

@@miragewizard it doesn’t work as a sequel. It’s a glorified epilogue.

[@miragewizard]

@@jeremyfields9009It works fine as a sequel. Lots of great things in the Heir to the Empire Trilogy.

[@dock9626]

Very simple: new, exciting (and even bold and challenging) stories that help evolve and move the lore along.....WITHOUT PISSING ON THE PAST. There was a respectful way to honor the past and introduce the new and it's more and more clear that that was DELIBERATELY not the path chosen.

[@bushmaster6894]

I believe Palpatine lost to Windu, but he knew that it had to play out that way for Anakin to fall. He gambled his life knowing it was the only way to push Anakin over to the dark side.

[@aarongaroutte4496]

I would love to learn more about War Hammer, too! Not sure where to start though...

[@thorskywalker]

That does seem to be the tricky part.

[@jds3k_616]

Eisenhorn trilogy by Dan abnet is how I started

[@chuckmaloney1298]

Good writing and storytelling and pushing the limits of visuals and effects

[@Amoschp524]

I think the second question about Palpatine's plan in the George Lucas films shows one reason why the OT and Prequels still hold up. With Lucas's writing you can ask questions about the lore and fan-theory having fun exploring the lore. With the Disney Star Wars material you have to sludge through bad writing and baffling decisions before you can have fun with the lore. And the final reason is until Disney, when new material was created like Legends or KTOR it respected the lore that had been created and what Lucas wrote while still giving fans an expanded universe to plan in.

[@TriggeringOpinionsandFacts]

Well written stories, both force and non force driven, big character (Luke/Ahsoka) and little guy (andor/mando pre S3). Respecting the established lore, bringing in ideas from legends - and capturing the spirit of them (ex don’t do what filoni has done to the commandos, bring them to their elite form like they were in legends), while establishing new lore - which filoni also does well.

[@istari0]

While Palpatine was certainly a mastermind among masterminds, he was also very convinced of his infallibility. While he certainly was pushing Anakin into position to force the latter into choosing the Dark Side, I also think he was fortunate that that moment came when Palpatine needed it most because I think Mace had beaten him. As far as clones go, I don't want to see either a young Palpatine or Snoke in The Bad Batch.

[@esharp86]

I was for sure one of the people who thought “what is the point” regarding Andor. I thought it was a terrible idea, I had no interest whatsoever. I thought oh great, another prequel, we know exactly where and when this character dies so there will be no tension, this will be Solo all over again except with a character I could give a fart about. It is now up there with my favourite shows of all time. Just goes to show even if people literally go in with the intention of watching something to laugh at how bad it is… a good story will win them over.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

Why?

[@esharp86]

@@peterkrochmalni673 why did I dismiss it initially or why is it one of my faves after having watched it?

[@peterkrochmalni673]

@@esharp86 yes, why would you betray George Lucas and even give Disney the time of day. You are just giving Disney just more incentive to give a green light to make more the last Jedi.

[@esharp86]

@@peterkrochmalni673 if Disney wants to make more Andor quality content I’m all for it. I think rewarding good content by watching it and recommending it while not finishing/shit talking the shit stuff is more effective than a blanket boycott of all Disney content. There’s zero chance we’re getting George back, and a non zero chance that Disney can hire the right people and get something right. I walked out of TLJ and didn’t buy a ticket to RoS so I think I did what I could to discourage that. But I’ll leave andor on playing in the background if it ups the numbers and sends the message that I want more content like that. I want good Star Wars, and I haven’t entirely lost hope - though I understand why that may seem naive.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

@@esharp86 not andor quality, andor is just a Trojan just to get you to drool and beg Disney for more like you’re doing now, only they will make more with Ahsoka and last Jedi level of quality and writing. In other words: you fell for it.

[@j_dangl]

Thor... What do you think? I just had the chance to read the original Thrawn series (1990 versions) for the first time. Once I started, I couldn't stop. I really enjoyed these books and found myself getting excited about Star Wars again. As I read each page, I couldn’t help but think where Star Wars would be at today if Disney had just followed what had already been written in the expanded universe. So, what do you think? Would fans have been happy if episodes 7 to 9 had been true to the Dark Empire and Thrawn series? Sometimes I think directors and script writers place too much emphasis on surprises, subverting expectations, and leaving audiences shocked rather than on just telling a great story. If Disney had followed the Thrawn series and the direction of the expanded universe books, would audiences have been happy with that, or would they be left yearning for more surprises?

[@mitchellhouser1572]

“Many fans are saying make less of these often bad to mediocre shows and try coming out with a decent movie! It’s so confusing what they want!” Like what a seemingly dumb question. Wanting less bad shows and more good movies are not opposed to each other or mutually exclusive in anyway…

[@bossbattlegordy6963]

Cal Kestis is my favorite new Star Wars character since Disney Shut down LA and took over LF. Mando would probably take the top slot if not for season 3. I would enjoy to hear your musings about the game series! Also the juxtaposition of how well outsiders of LF are generally able to tell better Star Wars stories than LF.

[@richardsylvester4518]

I don't think the majority of fans know what thy want. However, the majority know what they don't want when they see it. I.e the sequel trilogy snd the Disney plus live action shows.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

I want more of what Andor provided. A smartly written narrative with good characters and writing. I also want shows that aren’t just reliant on nostalgia, fan service, and lightsabers to tell a narrative. It’s fine if it has them, but it shouldn’t be the replacement to telling a good story.

[@seanbaugh3239]

*Thor, C'mon Bro...* 🤨 What do Star Wars Fans Want From Star Wars? 🤔 We want it to STOP !!! Let it die with dignity. What Disney is doing is like having your dog taxidermied after it's dead. A once beloved friend turned into a grotesque abomination. 🤔💭... 🐕 ☠️... 😳 *"NUFF SAID"™*

[@Yumeko1996_-sd5sm]

I wish they would make a movie or a TV show about the life of the Second sister, her as a Padawan just before the order 66, her escape from the order 66 and how she fell for the dark side, i know it was already shown in the game Fallen order but I wish they would go deeper in it, it would explain more about the inquisitors and how they serve vader, and I think her story in general is pretty interesting and shes a pretty strong character. But is it just me that want a TV show about the bad guys?

[@Daemonik]

I'd just like characters that I can believe. Whether they're existing characters that change completely (e.g. Thrawn from books to LA or Sabine from Rebels to LA) or new characters that have the believability of a mannequin, Disney just don't have a good record.

[@darkhart1275]

1. I want to be entertained not preached at or insulted. (are you listening hollywood?) 2. if it's Star Wars or MCU or any established IP then I expect it to follow the years of pre-bob disney source material. 3. the following has to be present for any shows or movies, a well thought out plot, great writing, great character development, actors that can actually act and were correctly cast for the character they are going to portray and no gaping plot holes. 4. malty movies trilogies have to have continuity.

[@Slugnoramous]

what it needs: good, gripping and character-driven stories with dialogue that doesn't want to make me slam my head into a wall. the best way to get invested is if the people act like people. it can absolutely do this with all the force/mythology as well as everyman's everyday stories, but ffs it has to be a good story first and foremost. after all its not just competing against other star wars, its competing against literally ALL OTHER MEDIA on the market. what i want (personal desires): yall might look at me like im insane but for what its worth i appreciate it when star wars at least attempts to DECONSTRUCT the idea of the jedi/force/mythology. granted it has to be done right and not overtly bombastic (looking at you TLJ). show that their philosophy has worked before, but so have other methods of problem solving. i feel like an effective way to do this is to force (pun intended) jedi/force users into a situation where their jedi teachings/access to the force are ineffective, and a lightsaber is just not going to cut it (im on a fuckin roll).

[@GGBlaster]

Hey Thor, do you think that a Thrawn-focused show/film could be leveraged to bring back some of what fans love so much about him? I’m thinking something more serious like a war film, maybe detailing what happened during Thrawn’s exile in Peridea. He could have battles against civilizations native to that galaxy, leading to the dwindling numbers he cites in Ahsoka season 1. Thrawn would be the protagonist, and the film/show would have a serious tone and slower pace with periodic moments of Thrawn executing genius plans.

[@jasonreynolds6643]

If Disney wanted to print money they could make animated movies/TV series adaptions of the EU content with the OT characters… They could also make their own content like The Acolyte and the Rey Movie and see how the market reacts…

[@PsychedelicDude]

I know exactly what i want. Forget movies; I want a big budget show, 10 episode seasons with 1 hour episodes about Luke's Jedi Academy, where we follow the OT characters, their kids as well as new students becoming Jedi. I want this to replace the ST and i could see this concept run for 9-12 maybe 15 seasons. Seeing characters go from padawans to masters, while introducing new padawans along the way. Preferably live action, but as long as it is good, i'd take animated as well. This could take inspiration from the EU while also coming up with some original stuff that fits the SW universe. I want to be kind of GOT style, as in the way they tell the story. No obvious main character and stories that are connected; characters that have never met can still impact each other etc. I also want good side content. Why do people want movies btw? When we can get ''movie content'' within shows. Like in TCW, some of those arcs were better than some of the movies imo. They should just make shows with movie arcs. Don't get me wrong, i like a good movie now and then i just don't see the point and we have to wait so long between each film. Movies should be for shorter side stories while the main storylines should be in show format. A good show is automatically better than a good movie imo. Imagine if Breaking Bad was a trilogy of movies, would still be good, but wouldn't you rather have the series?

[@death-king1834]

I want a story that actually honours the past and pays respect for it's characters while also trying to move the story forward in a logical sense. You know, kind of like what the Expanded Universe did (for the most part).

[@MedalionDS9]

We want quality... we want star wars, that respects and continues in the vein of the original Lucas Star Wars.

[@brettloo7588]

Do i/we know what we want. Yes 1. I want the EU books as canon and made into movies 2. I want good consistent characters in a good story.

[@B1er0l14m]

Thor you should reach out to MauLer, i'd love to see a collab between you and him. You agree on a bunch of the fundamentals and it'd be great to see you interact.

[@realDesertLad]

As someone who used to be a fan of MauLer he shouldn't. MauLer has fallen with the crowd of "hating Star Wars for the sake of Star Wars, but I'll act like I'm being objective" crowd.

[@B1er0l14m]

@@realDesertLad Since when? Can you give an example of that?

[@B1er0l14m]

Ahsoka? TBB3? Mando 3? Kenobi? Which show has he hated for the sake of hating? BTW, he liked Andor from the first episodes.

[@therealruski3906]

Consistency and continuity in the world, populated by characters and stories which embrace the spectrum of emotion… from the heights of transcendent joy to the depths of hatred and despair.

[@ajh22895]

I just want Star Wars that tastes like real Star Wars

[@Malstalgia]

As I watch what Disney has done with Star Wars, I think I am starting to realize what is so frustrating. It seems they are focused on selling as many branded products as possible. For this reason everything is gray, both sides are right sometimes, and wrong sometimes. I’m sure it’s not just this, but it does seem that story suffers in favor ensuring the audience feels better about buying as many licensed cool licensed products as possible: First Order, Resistance, Bounty Hunters, Mandalorians, Kyle Ren, Rey, Luke, Stormtroopers, Red-Armed C3PO, BB8, imperial BB8, etc. I loved Andor, and Rogue One and i would bet they weren’t able to merchandise those as easily as Force Awakens or Grogu. I’m finding it harder to find new hope for more high quality stories. Do you have any hope to offer that we’ll ever see another high quality Star Wars movie or project, beside (hopefully) the next season of Andor? Or will the next Rey movie be about introducing a new line of good guys and bad guys to sell products?

[@Rezzanine]

I see the point you're making, but I don't think good stories and merchandising opportunities are mutually exclusive. The original films were excellent stories as well as merchandising juggernauts. Everyone loves strongly defined, well-executed heroes and villains, gadgets, spaceships etc. I agree that merchandising should follow the story rather than the other way around.

[@masterevenpiell]

Hey Thor, I don't know if you've talked about this before, but do you have a hypothetical plan of what you would do if you were given control of Lucasfilm, or even Disney? I feel like every even slightly disconnected fan has some sort of idea of what exactly they'd do, but not sure if that's everyone or just the few people I know

[@blazingblazers14]

A Star Wars movie about the mandolarian history would be cool

[@Imhotep397]

A Sith throwing a fight expecting assistance from someone else, particularly Mace Windu with his shatterpoint technique just doesn’t pass the sniff test.

[@realDesertLad]

Hey Thor! I've asked this a few times, but I REALLY want to know. Would you be open to seeing a movie (or series) about a Jedi who uses the dark side to "balance the Force," but in the process loses everything. Especially given fans like us see the Sith as "cancerious" to the Force vs the Jedi being the "T-cells" of the Force. I would like (under the right director and writers) to see a "good Sith," but is still punished in the end for resorting to the "unnatural" side of the Force instead of trusting in will of the Force to balance. I can see the show building up his friends, relationships, and personal interest and showing us many "alternative paths" of him being humbled, patience, open-minded, and selfish that he doesn't take being "the real way" that he could've handled things. It would not only align well with what Lucas's has said about the Force BUT also teach its target audience (tweens) to be more open minded and allow for alternatives to present itself rather than rushing into things.

[@BGdropships]

good lightsaber duels!!! well written stories that are consistent with the Original George Lucas lore. The source material is already out there

[@donovangomez9489]

@HeyThor See here is something that I personally disagree with about the OT. Having other Jedi during the OT era is not an issue. Yoda is not all knowing... He didn't know every single Jedi that was active during the OT era. Remember he was on Dagobah for years and he only knew about Ezra and Kanan. How would Yoda know about Cal? It's not like he was on the Holonet. So why does Cal have to die? According to OT Fans so Luke can be the last Jedi? To take Yoda's the Last Jedi you will be line as Gospel is kind of ridiculous to me. From his perspective perhaps Luke was the last Jedi, but that doesn't mean there can't be any other Jedi in the galaxy. Yoda was a recluse and a hermit. How we he have known about people like Cal Kestis and Cere Junda? And sure u can say that he could sense them in the Force but what about those who cut themselves off from the Force. Honestly want to hear the other side of this debate

[@masterevenpiell]

Yeah agreed, and Obi-wan talks all about how important point of view is, doesn't make sense to criticize based off the omniscient pov of the fans

[@deaconcarr]

It took me a long time to get here...but I just don't care any more. I saw the Dune movies, and while not perfect - It's the new sci-fi standard to me.

[@PsychedelicDude]

Hey Thor! Assuming the quality is good: Would you rather have a movie franchise or a big budget GOT style show? What's even the point of movies when you can tell a ''movie-story'' within a show? Some of TCW arcs were better or just as good as some of the main movies imo. I just don't get the strong want for movies when a good show is better. Imagine if Breaking Bad or GOT was movie trilogy; would still be good, but wouldn't you rather see the show? You already picked my comment a few videos ago so i don't expect you to pick me again xD

[@seancrowley3142]

There is only so much you can do with a movie, due to the 2-3 hr time constraints. BB, GOT both would not be nearly as good if they were movies. I honestly much prefer the shows! Shows lend to better storytelling, more complex characters.

[@PsychedelicDude]

@@seancrowley3142 Exactly! Movies are great for things like spy thrillers and comedies and such, but for big franchises set in worlds with it's own history and lore like Star Wars, Marvel, GOT, LOTR, Harry Potter etc, shows are better. Again, assuming they're well made.

[@C-Content]

Hey thor, with speculation of Abeloth coming into canon after Ahsoka, what on your thoughts on Disney “reimagining” a lot of EU characters in their new canon? I think theyve been mostly unsuccessful, especially with larger characters such as Thrawn, but George also had this issue, taking EU characters like Quinlan Voss and writing them much worse. Should Disney move on from trying to rework Legends into canon, especially if theyre not interested in working with the EU authors for larger projects? It seems to me theyre more interested in the surface level iconography, names, and titles, rather than the good stories that were told.

[@range78]

i miss so so much the pure in-fandom-ness of the second question. all the discourse around SW used to be like that.

[@andrewgardiner1077]

I want Legends (the original expanded universe) to return and make new material. If Star Trek, Marvel, DC, Image Comics, and even something like South Park can have a multiverse; why can’t Star Wars? I wanna see “The Force Unleashed III,” “KotOR III,” “Star Wars 1313,” “Sword of the Jedi,” a novel about Darth Zannah as the new Sith Master, etc…

[@diegojose4173]

As a whole, Star Wars needs directors and writers with strong visions and themes that are not meddled by progressive interests that care more about making "strong female characters" that inspire "little [insert race here] girls" that they can be on-par or better than men (i'm looking at you Sequel Trilogy). They also need to give projects time to develop naturaly rather than constantly meddling in their development for one reason or another, leading to messy productions like The Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi which clearly suffered from rushed productions and creative restrictions.

[@madtalk3951]

Yes well weitten movies with epic space duels and baddas people in armours fighting people and cool lightsaber duels while respecting the lore and characters and staying true to them with good character development too .

[@wray2real]

I say it's obvious that Mace won straight up with Palpatine because he got figured in that fight. People don't volunteer to be disfigured just to look helpless.

[@darthtroller]

I think Palpatine let Windu win by not immediately killing him alongside the 3 other Jedi masters, once Windu locked in with Vapaad, it was too late for Palpatine

[@Lord-Emperor-Vader]

Hey Thor do you think that Luthen Rael would be a great model of how they should do Magneto in the MCU by having him be some who knows how bad the things he is doing are but sees the goals that he is striving for as worth sacrificing his soul. This would give us a unique take on him for the films while keeping the base of who he is. Also how do you think they will solve the problem of him being a holocaust survivor and the fact he will be around 100 if the next film is set in the modern day and they use his typical backstory which would place it around 2030 at the earliest (the MCU is currently set in 2025 or 2026) and he would have to be born in the early to mid 1930's to have experienced the holocaust since if my memory of history class serves correct (it has been 6-8 years so I can be wrong) young children and the elderly were executed upon arrival even if i am mistaken if he would still have to be born in this range to be able to remember it well.

[@matthewashbrook9077]

Hey Thor, while I know there was talk of nine Star Wars films back in the late 70s and early 80s, for years afterwards and especially after completing the prequels in 05, Lucas stated over and over that the series was done, RotJ was the end and there would be no 7, 8 and 9. It's only around when talk of the Disney acquisition started that we started to hear that George was writing outlines and he was talking to Mark, Carrie and Harrison. So my question, which might sound cynical I admit, is do you think it's plausible that George was doing all this to increase the value of his company knowing it was going to be acquired by Disney?

[@hermittmog8697]

Palp would never put all his eggs in one basket! If he did throw it he wasn't really at the mercy of Mace at all.

[@Paul_McSeol]

I just want a third Ewok movie to finish the Endor trilogy. Is that too much to ask?

[@CantankerousDave]

You sick, sick bastard. Have your thumbs-up.

[@seancrowley3142]

While I would love that, I think they concluded the story well! It was very bittersweet. Cindel’s family all died but she finally got off Endor. If I remember correctly, didn’t she end up becoming a reporter on Coruscant?🤔

[@sonofapirate]

He Thor, Could Dooku fight Anakin for a long time, my first thought was no and that would be because Anakin is more aggressive in lightsaber combat but Dooku has fended him off before I just would want to know how would a five minute long fight to the death between Anakin and Dooku go down?

[@achaudhari101]

Dooku died due to age and his fighting style being incompatible towards Anakin’s fighting style.

[@SigmaBenLinus]

I'm pretty sure George Lucas himself said that Windu actually beat Palpatine

[@lordcarnorjax8599]

I think the first season of The Mandalorian was good enough for most of the fandom. Don't get me wrong I think it could have more polish and there was a couple of things like the tracking fobs & the no taking the helmets off that made no sense. One they conviently forgot about and the other they retconned into a cult thing. But it was it's own new separate thing that was very Star Wars with all new characters. It was when they started bringing in the TCW & Rebels characters and linking it to the ST it went downhill very fast. Anything that builds to the ST is a creative dead end, most people don't like it, LucasFIlm can try and fix the ST all they want but it'll just turn off more fans.

[@DannyMD96]

Hey Thor, with the new season of Bad batch, there is a new theory floating around that Palpatine from ep 6 was actually a clone, what is your take on this? Would this fix the sequels or would it completely make Anakin’s and Luke’s journeys insignificant?

[@ShadowWolfRising]

To go back to the EU era with all the cool shit. To have all the Disney Star Wars retconned heavily or in the cases of the Sequel Trilogy and High Republic to be completely erased from Canon.

[@genghisgahan9623]

Thor, you need to check out Warhammer 40k. Not everything is of consistent quality, but it has some great stories and lore.

[@StefSis]

Hey Thor. Why are you dissapointed with Thrawn in live action? I think Lars Mikkelsen is a great actor and he did the character justice in Ahsoka imo. He's been gone for a long time, and yet he had a plan including the Night Sisters, and he put his opponents through various tests to learn more about them and his newfound undead army. Is it the acting, the writing of his character, or the fact that you think he is fat (I heard you make fun of that before) that you don't agree with??

[@hermittmog8697]

I think thematically you couldn't get much further from Star Wars than Warhammer 40k. Whimsical cantina vs. Death metal. Very cool! But very nihilistic, dark and hopeless.

[@syrusterrigan9366]

i've been a Star Wars fan since 1983 -- that's when i saw RotJ in the theater, at 3 years of age. and i know *exactly* what i want from the franchise: 1) i want the EU on-screen, revitalized, and canonized. (this was the first mistake made by Disney and KK) 2) i want the nonsense, foolishness, preachiness, plot-holery, and narrative/character assassination of the so-called "sequels" erased from pop culture history. (this was the unforgivable sin) now, i understand just how titanic an undertaking part one would be, and i also know that it's a safe bet that no one has the stones and the grit to make a genuine attempt at it -- fair enough. but the second part is non-negotiable -- there is no part of the "sequel trilogy" or the tales that build up to it or off of it that can be salvaged, in my opinion, and all of that stems from one simple truth: if the iconic characters of the original trilogy had remained true to themselves as they were at the end of RotJ, then: 1) Luke Skywalker wouldn't have been an alien-sucking, child-deleting wimp-quitter 2) Leia Organa Solo would have been a chief of state of the New Republic instead of a rampaging incompetent running the same thirty-year-old anti-establishment movement out of the same sewer pipe in the seediest portion of the galaxy AND 3) there's no way in hell that Han Solo would EVER forget where the Falcon was. and that goes double for Chewie. They tore down the history that made the franchise worth the 4+ BILLION dollars they paid for it, and in so doing, made their shiny new toy unmarketable (at least to some of us). and here we come to what i think is the most viable trade-off for the matter of "What the Fans Want". if item #1 is unattainable, but #2 can be undone with the stroke of a pen (metaphorically), i would be willing to return to the franchise if they would simply stop wrecking the history of Star Wars -- but that's what the "sequels" did, EXACTLY: everything that had been done in the previous six episodes was for NOTHING, *and* they made wreckage of their main characters. Star Wars that: a) honors George Lucas' six films, b) validates at least some components of the EU, c) *INVALIDATES* the entirety of Disney Star Wars to date, and d) all rides on the expulsion of Kathleen Kennedy from Lucasfilm and any further opportunity for her to ruin more franchises/movies is exactly what i want. and those four components aren't "peak restoration" -- they're bare minimum prerequisites needed to open a dialogue which *might* result in some of my discretionary monies going toward new Star Wars products. i've got most of the EU all in my head, and that's enough for me, if this worst-case scenario continues.

[@Lt_Rik]

Well said. Though I don't have much hope right now for this to happen, because you would need a major cultural shift in the entire entertainment sector. Do I think it could be possible, that someone buys Disney or Lucas Film, then fires all the writers and executives and hires sort of old school talent and maybe even get George Lucas involved? I'm not sure there are enough normal people left in Hollywood that you could hire, that would bring you the quality of the original movies or the Extended Universe. But one can dream.

[@syrusterrigan9366]

@@Lt_Rik you're right. There is little reason to hold out hope. But, desperate times, desperate measures. Disney is grinding itself to financial chaff so rapidly that if they *don't* course-correct (and HARD!) soon, that every IP they possess will be up for grabs. And Nelson Peltz is building a coalition . . . . I simply look at it this way: one of three things will happen -- 1) Disney somehow unf__ks itself and starts doing right by its IPs; 2) someone gets the current regime out of the way (either by hostile takeover or the bankruptcy auctions) and pays attention to what we've said for the last 8+ years; or 3) the madness continues, and all that's left is my own headcanon. Either way, I believe I'll get what I want, and as my frugal tendencies increase with age, I know which one of the three is cheapest and will provide the most satisfaction . . . . I'm going to win this, no matter what. The only question is: would Disney like to stop failing??

[@jamesgoss1860]

I want ..... nothing. Why do we need to have endless content? There's been enough good Star Wars pre-2012 to last a lifetime. 6 movies, (3 if you're touchy), numerous good games, books, comics. Like having a beloved pet, eventually it's come to the end and it's time to say goodbye, mourn, and move on.

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

Hey Thor, do you think the presence of Darth Plaguis instead of Palpatine would have changed the sequels a lot in better or worse ways?

[@sandroabate]

I want more writing like Andor, less like the sequels. Good character development, good stories, that respect the canon (original trilogy, sequels, clone wars), and respect the fans. Pretend that the sequels were just a bad dream and ignore them. Don’t tell me that Star Wars is for children as an excuse for bad, sloppy, lazy writing.

[@Sjaddix]

I mean a lot people disagree on Mace Windu vs Palps, however, George Lucas explicitly said that Mace Windu WON. Kinda disingenuous for a star wars super fan and content creator not to explicitly state that. Granted you don't always have to agree with what the writer/creator says about their material but still.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

I don't think Palpatine threw the fight, mostly because he's the kind of guy that will put all the chips on the table in a major moment, we see the second time he does (RotJ) he loses spectacularly and PERMENANTLY DIES NEVER SOMEHOW RETURNING IN THE FUTURE.

[@bramderacourt9499]

Hey Thor, what do you think it would take to save the Star Wars Franchise. Like, if you could construct a ten year plan to get the fanbase back onboard and a decent amount of financial success and you had carte blanche, what would you do, I feel like , no matter what the general opinion is on what amounts to good star wars, you would literally not have to release ANY Star Wars Media for several years straight. I feel people are burned out on the sheer volume of content and it would be prudent to go back to the drawing board and take your time before they release any new media.

[@skinnymandan10]

Hey Thor I find it very confusing as to why Disney is so hell set on re-hashing time periods we have seen or know to death. I mean they literally came up with two of their very own time periods within the story, that being the High Republic and The New Jedi Order. I personally think they are trying to squeeze too much into already established storylines, whereas they could very easily without aggravating the fans, just write all new stories with basically all new fresh characters they have designed themselves. For me I have been really enjoying The High Republic books and think they deserve a more prominent spot on the screen. I know we are getting the acolyte and the Rey movie but it's taken this long to get these. Do you think that this is because they was scared the fans wouldn't connect to the stories and characters if they didn't include cameos of this or that character from the main stories? What do you think the reason is that we can't just get a solid Star Wars show or movie about something new and fresh? I would love to know your thoughts...

[@kingofthesharks]

The prequels were infamously derided by fans/critics and yet have permeated pop culture with their plethora of Jedi/Sith and ninja lightsaber duels. It sends a confusing message to modern Lucasfilm as they try to make as much content about supposed fan-favorite characters while the actors are still alive. Meanwhile the one show with excellent writing & full of original (or previously minor) muggle characters gets somewhat low viewership, and suits will be like "...welp". It's a tough situation

[@АлексейМомот-щ7о]

Execs are dumb and don't realize Clone Wars did the heavy lifting

[@Bkidd7]

Thor, I'm calling it, Luthen Rael will make an appearance on the Bad Batch.

[@thorskywalker]

That is a very, very interesting possibility...

[@Mouse_Metal]

Not very likely. He is not Felony´s pet OC and he puts his pet OCs into shame.

[@edwin4625]

Hey Thor, do you think that if Disney pushed a new Star Wars story some 300 years into the future with a new cast and only included throwaway lines about the past Star Wars stories, the original (old) fans would give it a chance? Or has Disney completely thrown them away?

[@zachschmitt3654]

Hey Thor, do you think Andor will be our only live action Star Wars content in 2025, if not, what else do you or Naboo think we will get in 2025?

[@landonmathews6111]

I maintain the position of expecting Disney Star Wars to be garbage (because it consistently has for arguably the past 9 years) but I’m happy to be proven wrong. Jedi Fallen Order was genuinely good stuff, so there’s a chance they can make something good again

[@mickeybunts]

The fans don't hate diverse characters or women, we hate mediocre activists masquerading as writers, for the sake of pushing an agenda. if the demographics of your show are more important than the story...the story will probably suck

[@YegRon]

Yup, couldn’t agree more.

[@mazkeraid4039]

Yes, and most people who are in the industry these days for some reason are too dense about it.

[@achaudhari101]

What if it maybe people are tired of seeing women and minorities on screen? After all I see people parading the whole “Anti Straight While Male” argument constantly.

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

​@@mazkeraid4039Because most of them are in it for marketing and not to tell a story.

[@achaudhari101]

I don't know, at this point maybe that is the problem to most people considering people are always complaining that white men aren't the face of anything anymore. If the Fandom Menace for example can get triggered over a Latina character in Outlaws or think Star Wars and Marvel need to be Male again, then, maybe people are done with them at this point.

[@seancrowley3142]

I know exactly what I want!! A GOTish live action series set during the Old Republic. I want excellent, complex storytelling, complex characters, including Jedi, Sith, Republic government officials, bounty hunters, scoundrels with/without hearts of gold, underworld crime lords, ect. Just check out those Old Republic trailers for their MMO and give me 7 seasons of that in live action. I know exactly what I want! I’ve wanted this since the moment I left the theater watching ROTS, which satisfyingly concluded the Skywalker saga for me. I get misty eyed just thinking about it🥹🥹

[@PryorTravis]

As someone who stood in line in 1977, i want a complete rejection of the sequels and pretty much everything beyond the beginning of the Disney timeline. Going forward, I want an acknowledgement of the virtue of the original trilogy and relative value of the prequels and the characters of those six movies. Any new films must be centered on good writing with good character development and strictly adhere to canon. Any hint of any sort of political agenda must be immediately rejected in favor of good storytelling that unites rather than divides the fan base.

[@bryanfrazier4648]

I believe George Lucas stated that Mace won that fight.

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

He did, yes and it blows me away how many people can't accept that And how it screws up Anakins arc; if he's just a puppet and it was planned all along then it removes the agency from Anakins decision

[@flyingtigerman]

​ @Captain_Insano_nomercy I disagree that it removes the agency from Anakins decision. In fact, I think it does the opposite by having Palpitine force a decision out of Anakin. Giving Anakin the choice to either save him or Mace Windu. This does not remove Anakin's choice (agency), for Palpatine had already lost the fight and Anakin's choice is still extremely important. Also, Palpatine needed be deformed in a fight with Jedi to sway the Senate to make him Emperor and support his decision to wipe out the Jedi. This would make even more sense if he chose throw the fight. The only person whose agency is removed is Mace Windu, who, in this theory, didn't win at all. It may not be what George Lucas intended, but I think it would make sense.

[@GGBlaster]

@@flyingtigermanI don’t know, while the narrative of Palpatine throwing the fight certainly speaks to his superior intellect and cunning, it kinda stretches things to the point of being hard to believe. Perhaps Palpatine could have planned the whole fight. Perhaps he knew exactly what Anakin would do. Perhaps he knew the exact moment that Anakin would enter the room so he could time everything just right to let Anakin see a menacing Mace Windu holding a helpless old man at the end of a lightsaber. Maybe he had every intention of letting his own force lightning reflect off of Windu’s lightsaber and back at him to cause himself such harm and deformity. Maybe he knew that Anakin would cut Mace Windu’s hand the very instant before Windu could land a killing blow. But really? Not a shred of concern for his own life? Even with his clearly stunned face upon seeing Windu lose his hand? Killing the first of the four Jedi who came to arrest him was evening the odds. The second was because he could finally walk out of the shadows and kill his hated enemies. The third was because he realized Mace Windu was more competent than he had anticipated. Consider: how convincing is it to lose a 4 on 1 fight after killing the first three? Palpatine had taken a moment before killing Kit Fisto, most likely because he actually planned on losing 2 on 1, adding to the appearance of helplessness once Anakin walked in. Sure, it may just be my speculation, but I don’t buy Palpatine having every variable under control.

[@ShavierTheHedgehog]

I know what I want, but I'm terrible at conveying that. So I point at videos that mostly I agree with (like yours for ex.) and people tell me that's not what I want, cuz it's not my own opinion but KZbinrs and they influenced my opinion :/

[@BarefootPeasant]

Not going to speak for the fandom in general, but I'd appreciate a mature perspective and a focus on good writing. Jedi vs Sith is not what Star Wars started out as in 1977, and it's become too much the focus. I'm not saying to stop making these projects, but simply to dedicate a few to other aspects of the universe. Andor is a great start, and going forward, it's the kind of thing I want more of. No agendas, please.

[@DarthTamarus]

Mace beat Palpatine imo. Read Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover. Mace is a phenom.

[@samirabdel-aziz478]

People keep saying "well written characters" but i'd argue good writing was never that big a deal in classic star wars. I want adventure, mysticism, political allegory involving why fascism is bad, incredible lightsabers duels, good writing sure, fantastic acting, and bring back the "wow" JJ abrams made a lot of mistakes, but look at some of those shots from Force Awakens. Fantastic stuff. I want to see variety in Force factions. I want new powers specific to people. The Force should be magic. If "anyone" can be a Force User, then i want it to feel earned. If its in the blood, then develop that. Make it consistent.

[@АлексейМомот-щ7о]

If Star Wars wasn't consistent up to this point it wouldn't suddenly become consistent if you ask it to be.

[@darthqui-gon5986]

I already have EVERYTHING I need Star Wars! I have the complete saga Episodes 1 through 6 on VHS ( even Revenge of the Sith that works on U S. players ) DVD, Blu-ray and 4K many copies. 87% of them still shrink wrapped. I also have the entire Clone Wars movie and the entire series. I have two copies of those on Blu-ray one opened one wrapped and also the complete CW all still wrapped in DVD. This is ALL I need, and want unless it's from Lucas, for Star Wars. Then of course my collections of various Star Wars stuff from 1977 to the present. Hot Toys Padme and Anakin are my next two pieces coming. DEATH TO DISNEY!!!! And that other "lady" who's name I won't mention.

[@allenzelt4481]

I want them to stop turning the franchise into constant Dave Filoni key jingling

[@AlbertusMagnus_44]

Consistency would be a good start. There are millions of potential stories in the SW universe as presented by George Lucas. The only reason to alter SW’s core principles and practices is to celebrate the petty vanities of the current SW production team. They could write original stories and original characters, at least theoretically. But they don’t. They trash what they did not create and offer only junk that is almost unrecognizable as SW. It would be easy to make great SW, but that wouldn’t suit their prejudices and vanities.

[@Carcerian]

We want competent writing, and respect shown to existing canon. We want adventure, fun and action, not extremist political ideology forced down our throats against our will.

[@MyrmThaBadMan]

Dont want Disneys grubby hands anywhere near our beloved Kyle Katarn, not even close to him in any way.

[@seanohara5754]

Warhammer is very interesting but takes a lot from Dune, which is already spectacular in the trilogy they are in the midst of, plus there is plenty of existing lore and a very interesting setting to create brand new stuff. In my opinion Dune is overtaking Star Wars as the premiere Sci Fi franchise. That said I'll definitely be checking out all the Warhammer content whatever it ends up being.

[@andrewhaddad6376]

Honestly I'm still sour about the material that was decanonized. For me to consider Star Wars "fixed" and move forward with it they need to correct that. I consider Darth Plagueis an essential part of the Saga. He's one of the most important characters named in the films that currently has no source material. To decanonize good material and replace it with NOTHING shows to me they just don't care

[@paulemge9156]

I do disagree they Palpatine through the fight, I just don’t think he would take the risk

[@abthedragon4921]

I like what that first comment brought up about the "just make good Star Wars." I see that phrase all the time but I have to ask, what does that mean!? And I notice that a lot of the people who say that aren't really interested in explain what "good Star Wars" is. Look at the Prequels: we have people saying their misunderstood masterpieces which enhanced the franchise as a whole while others say they're terrible stories and proof Lucas giving up control of Star Wars was a good thing. What about Tales of a jedi: Some have said they are great stories that add more depth to the stories of Ahsoka and Dooku; especially the latter. But I've noticed a vocal minority of people saying they're overpraised and didn't need to be made. I'm not going to get into the whole "is this Star Wars content necessary" rabbit hole. Or what about Rebels: Some have praised it for its themes, characters and the greater context it adds to events in the Star Wars saga while others call it "watered down Clone Wars" with worse animation, inconsistent tones and say its characters are ok at best. Even stuff like Andor isn't immune to this; the vast majority of the fanbase (supposedly a vast majority anyway) call it the best Star Wars content since the original trilogy while others say it's not real Star Wars. And some straight up won't even watch it for that reason or another. This might just be a me thing but it honestly gets exhausting hearing people say "just make good Star Wars" when it's incredibly vague on what they consider "good."

[@johnn1250]

Didn't starwarstheory do a video on the outline of Lucas's sequel trilogy plan.