Three Biggest Sins when Driving a Land Rover

#Landrover #LandroverDiscovery #LR3
In this episode, we tell you the three biggest Sins when driving a Land Rover Discovery.
We are not liable for any harm you do to your car, your engine, your surroundings or yourself. Use the information given in this video at your own risk.
We use the following diagnostic units (no affiliation or affiliation intention):
- GAP Diagnostic OBDIID for ~500 to 700 Euro
- IcarSoft I 930 ~ 100 Euro (no longer available - use later replacement)
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[@daraboy1973]

First off, thank you for everything you have both taught us all . The lessons are invaluable to all of us out here in landrover land . Invaluable information which covers everything . Sound advice as always . Vielen Dank .

[@Vera_and_Christian]

You are most welcome. 😃🙏🙋‍♀ Vera

[@toyotatim2521]

The only tool I ever needed with my Discovery 1 TD200 was a mig welder to chase the rust around the body. I do hope the show (fair) was worth that very long queue.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Oh yes, absolutely. 🙋‍♀Vera

[@defendermodsandtravels]

Look at the videos on my channel on this very subject. To prevent further deterioration you must passivate the rust before doing other treatment.

[@justinsmith6296]

Two videos in a week, we are blessed, thank you, we hope you both have a great week, see you next Sunday 😉

[@charlescoventry6193]

What a great humorous way to let us all know what level of sinner we are. I have been able to get by without a diagnostic tool but agree I really do need one. Thanks again for a great video.

[@justincase2384]

Christian, thank you so much for your rant about social media diagnostic experts! Every word of it true

[@TR4zest]

Yours would be a great name for an author on this subject: "Preventative Maintenance for your Land Rover" By Justin Case.

[@andrewellis3083]

Hi Christian and Vera, I think you videos very helpful and I also like the humour in them, I’d like to thank you for the information you provide, I’m not a mechanic but after watching your videos I felt confident enough to take on a few jobs on my LR4, transfer box fluid change, both diff oil change, fuel filter, air and cabin filter and engine oil change + filter and yes I used 5w 40 oil, my next mission is to change the gear box oil and filter which from what I’ve heard is a bit of a pain. Once again thanks for the service you are providing it really helps👌👍 Andrew South Wales🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Car-dash-Ian]

Hi Christian and Vera just watched you're latest two videos they were both great. I owned a landrover Defender for a few years but now I drive a Toyota and have thrown away all my tools!! Haha 😄 I don't think my heart or bank account could survive owning any kind of landrover!! As I said before Landrover turning drivers into mechanics since 1948! And mechanics into alcoholics almost as long. Still I think it's impressive that 75% of the series and Defenders are still on the road.

[@evanduggan431]

Yes, the other 25% made it home 🤣

[@philhawley1219]

More pathetic anti Land Rover jokes. My only car is a 26 years old Discovery.Apart from a new boot floor and door sill she still runs perfectly on all the original electrical and mechanical components. She looks a bit tatty after many years of hard labour in farming and forestry but I would not swap her for any other make of 4x4 in the world. Modern Land Rovers are shit, all other modern vehicles are shit too. Why does no car maker in the world make a vehicle that the owner can simply and easily service and adjust at home? One guess...so you are beholden to their rip off dealers and the electronic industry.

[@aussiebattler7789]

I like the way that you have moved the steering wheel over to the passenger side so that the missus can drive while you talk

[@AlloffroadAu]

you are so right and exactly why I moved on from 2 x Discovery 3, I Discovery 2 and two Defender to a 105 Landcruiser with a 1HDFTE conversion and magically all issues are disappeared normal servicing is all required.

[@StephenPieri]

Why didn't you make this video last week...??? I committed 2 of the 3 sins! I just picked up my Discovery 3 (late) 2008 TDV6 on Friday. Had I have watched this i would have bought a gap tool or similar and checked it first...now I feel terrible...my previous Discovery 3 TDV6 was written off 12 months ago and only required towing home twice in the 2 years I had it, once for an incorrectly set park brake (my bad), 2nd was the alternator just stopped in the middle of an intersection, otherwise it went well, especially after changing the auto transmission fluid and filter...thanks again, I need to confess I did check the service history and most of the things were ticked off but not all things are written nowadays with dealers sending the service history via email as they go paperless. So you have to physically do the legwork yourself and arrange to talk to the mechanics after seeking permission off the owners etc. Keep up the entertaining videos.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

This happens. I received a online printout from a LR dealer for my used bought LR4. They had all this in their system. I went through it and found items they reported but the previous owner did not have it fixed. That was actually helpfull. Small oil leak and a near-torn hose. Christian

[@SiCrewe]

You don't need to worry about this stuff with a Disco' 2. Basically, if you can't poke your finger through the chassis or body anywhere and it's still managing to retain some oil inside the engine & gearbox, it'll be fine. Seriously, I'd say the biggest sin for anybody driving a TD5 LR would be to head out on a big trip without fitting a fuel pre-filter. It's kind of ironic that LR built vehicles that can travel anywhere in the world but fit them with engines that can be destroyed by a bit of water or sediment in the fuel. Also, I'd say the biggest sin for people driving ANY Land Rover is ignoring routine mainenance. If you don't know where all the various oil/grease points are, or you haven't checked them for more than a year (engine, gearbox, transfer case, diff's, axles, hubs etc), you're on borrowed time.

[@desertking4u]

I love your videos, I didn't know Germans could have such a good sense of humor, have not met them for a long time, but as you can see, exceptions prove the rule. Christian, I think you're one of the few with a good sense of humor.

[@kingmonkeyno1]

I think owning a landrover helps cultivate a great sense of humour!

[@AdventureWithDanan]

Forgive me Christian and Vera for I have sinned... I have purchased two Rovers without checking them with a diagnostic tool... and they've been great!! Other than the standard maintenance like control arms, electrical failures, needing to rebuild my transfer case, steering knuckles, compressor bushings and a front air suspension leak...

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Oh, so only some tiny miniature breakfast repairs. Ok, your sin shall be forgotten. Christian

[@overlandgearreviews]

@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you for your absolution! I feel renewed to buy ANOTHER Land Rover... But I will not...

[@greenbills9539]

Good job guys..i'm not as scared of buying a landrover after watching a couple of your videos. Keep it up guys..

[@Vera_and_Christian]

That is goood. The least thing we want to do is scare people away, but rather empore them so they know what to do. 💪👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@desmcdermott6090]

Excellent advice as per usual. Keep up the good work

[@charleshepplewhite7384]

Hi hope you are all well. I thought the biggest sin (especially on a diesel engine) was not changing you engine oil before the recommended time. I'm looking into changing my engine oil and spend a little more to get some Amsoil signature series 5w-30 it seems to be ACEA A5/B5 and gen 2 oil. I have a 2015 LR discovery 4 SDV6 3.0 engine 31, It has been fully maintained by Land Rover service but now it's my turn, so I'll see what the have not done and what they have messed up. By the way my last car was a D2 2.5 that I keep going for 9 years, thing under warranty that they obviously don't do is change the fuel filter or put a rag over the engine. Things they do are spill brake fluid when bleeding the brakes disconnecting my dash cam and braking the support bracket, topping up a FULL washer bottle and trying to charge me for it, the list goes on. Love the videos

[@Vera_and_Christian]

👍But we do not put 5W30 into any of our Land Rovers anymore. Check out our two videos we made this spring. Christian explains why not and what we are using now. 🙋‍♀Vera

[@ourdiscovery325]

FACTS! FACTS! FACTS! Yes i completely agree, people unfortunately buys a discovery 3 with no knowledge of what a discovery 3 is and what commitment's you have to have with a discovery 3 and its those people who buys it and then relies all the problems and bings and bongs and thinks why is all this happening and then when it comes to having the truck fixed and how much it cost then they start to cry and wishes they never bought one in the first place...the best way to deal with a discovery 3 'talking with experience here' is to treat it like a small child, if it isn't feeling or sounding too well have it checked, and never ever turn a blind eye to any odd sounds or screaming for that matter. just like a child that need regular heath checks from a doctor your discovery 3 is the exactly the same as in a service, oil+filter, air filter, pollen, and most importantly DIESEL filter/ fuel filter!.. and don't be afraid to have a look underneath the truck for any spills or leaks and get it fixed if you do see anything don't wait next month or wait till next service or at your next MOT 'yearly inspection to check if a vehicle is road worthy and safe' because once you do that more things will fail along side the first problem but now its even more expensive fix. YES a discovery 3 will eat through front wheel bearings faster than normal and YES the front suspension components will need replacing more quickly than your neighbour's car but that's what owning a nearly 3 Ton truck does BUT if you spend time regularly checking over your discovery 3 it will prevent expensive repairs.... again to Christian and Vera brilliant video and very much needed.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅👍I just went through all our invoices for our Discovery 3 and found out that Christian always bought the cheapest wheelbearings possible. So, I am starting to question whether or not that might be the reason my car eats so many wheelbearings. 🙋‍♀️Vera

[@philryley7521]

Luv you guys. I do some repairs myself, electrical, I am an electronic engineers, and repaired after a deer ran out in front on me I was doing 60mph. My family walked away without injury and I have repaired my D3. Insurance declared it a cat n right off UK Classification for economic un repairable. But good now. Whether you maintain your self or pay others, the biggest sin in not to let the maintenance tasks lapse. Fairly new to your channel, comments re oil pump taken on board. I will have the conversation with the garage I use. Two questions. Mine has a sun roof, I know (leaks) don’t go there, but I have a rattle in the headlining, ideas?. Also what is the best OBD2 tool, gap2 aside. I have Carly and TOPDOD 500 reader. Not confident in either, unless not using correctly. I currently have an eye bleed so everything is work in progress at the moment. Don’t wish to through money away so recommendations appreciated. I see negative comments re you guys, total bollock, (sorry UK phrase) armchair experts 😡😡😡 Please ignore. Have a great weekend Phil

[@mikego18753]

Thumbs up.ps.i had a Harley in the 70s.lol. Cheers.

[@drforbin801]

"We don't want you to commit suicide after this video" LOL :-)

[@thewraith4858]

I have 2x Range rovers, nether have any problems with them, Both kept service and maintained.....

[@johnmorgan5377]

Hi guys someone asked me were to plug diagnosis tool in I said notion my 1970 model

[@TheLastOilMan]

My dad used to make this garbage, and they have improved since then ! That's why I got one haha

[@bobmortimer1149]

I have a 2014 Discovery have you done any Videos on this year

[@Vera_and_Christian]

About 25, yes.

[@richardmccay8425]

I confess, I committed the cardinal sin and bought my LR4 without plugging in a diagnostic tool…..mainly because I don’t have one ☹️😬. You see, part of being British means we’re very good at queueing, and we’re very good at being polite to sales men whilst they spin us a web of half truths and lies. Meanwhile we nod politely, whilst thinking to our selves 🤔💭”I wish I had a diagnostic tool I could sneakily plug in while he’s making me a coffee”. You’ve guilted me into it though !, but there seems to be one i car soft for most every other brand, and one for Jaguar & Land Rover. Is that how you see it Christian ?? P.S I did go through all the Land Rover service history and got the cam belt and auxiliary belt done when I bought it. I’m sure that must redeem me 🤞

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@The_1]

I have a LRV02 diagnosis device and on the discovery there is the airbag lamp that disappears for a second when starting up and then returns permanently, the diagnosis device does not find any fault and it is not possible to make this lamp disappear, thank you for the advice but I find that for this kind of technology implanted in a discovery it is necessary to invest in a much more sophisticated device to be able to solve all the equations of the problem. or maybe you have the answer for the airbag lamp. Kind regards. Have fun and stay safe

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Our GAPIID is the most advanced unit available. But even with my IcarSoft I930 I never had issues resetting airbag faults. Christian

[@obainomilano]

Check to see if you have the passenger airbag is turned off with the manual key on the passenger side. If yes, use the manual key to turn it back on. If no, then it’s a fault.

[@The_1]

@@obainomilano I sold the Car, the best way to feel free😃😃😃

[@obainomilano]

@@The_1 🫡

[@SasiKumar-nl1ud]

Hi.. Got Smart key battery low warning on both keyfob, changed new battery but still got the message, I can remote lock unlock no issues.. How can I clear the message Thanks in advance

[@Vera_and_Christian]

It should clear with a OBD2 tool. Christian

[@marcos3ltrv6]

Hi ChristianI've been subscibed to your channel fo ages even though I dont owwn one. I do own a Range Rover Sport though with the same TDV6 3.0 ltr engine which recently had a bro0cken crankshaft. I am interested to know your reasoning about the 5W/30W oil. Cheers Colin

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Sorry to read that.Have a look at this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3jZgnSYgsSMh7s and that video kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2Wxln2ol9SlatU That explains it all. 👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@struanrobertson3417]

Sin 4..not watching all episodes of LR Time 😊

[@Vera_and_Christian]

💪👍😃🙋‍♀Vera

[@martinkulik9466]

Do you camp & sleep in this vehicle? Any plans convert it into standalone camper with kitchen, 220v electric, etc

[@Vera_and_Christian]

We camp with this vehicle and have customized it for our personal needs. There are several videos on our channel like this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWLLk5ujgN6YfKc or kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoWWoqGLjNJ_Z9E or kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zqe7naalg7d9epo. And there are a couple of videos about our trips to the Alps, going offroad and camping. But I don't have, and don't want to have, a full slide out kitchen with sink and everything. We are not your typical youtube coffee maker campers. 😅👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@paulsmith7592]

Morning Christian and Vera another great video your so funny I love my Sunday morning video and I would love a couple of stickers to put on my 14 plate discovery 4 it would be much appreciated kindest of regards Paul Smith x

[@Vera_and_Christian]

You have to send me an email please, then I can hook you up with the info how to buy one. 😃👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@David-jt1hv]

Entirely random question - how do your rear headrests sit lower! the middle one in mine is much higher than yours and gets in the way of the rearwards view most annoyingly. As the middle seat is used often I don't want to remove it entirely. Are there lower sitting headrests from another model or year?

[@David-jt1hv]

@@Vera_and_Christian thanks for replying, my 2007 must have a different type - they aren't shaped in a way that could slide over. Just a very ordinary shape with the bars in the middle front-rear. I wonder if I have the wrong ones now!

[@graemevass745]

Vera's D3 has the same rear seat headrests as the Range Rover Sport

[@jonnyhead]

Hi guys is it considered a Land Rovers sin to fit an XLIFTER on a disco 3? 😁 it looks an amazing piece of kit. Also side note- dashboard has just started cracking on passenger side🙈 I thought I had escaped that problem I'll try to stick it somehow before it gets worse, any good sticking tips?? Cheers guys

[@Vera_and_Christian]

No, no sin here. You are all good. Dashbord issues are no issue in Germany. Does not get that hot around here. Christian

[@usandutz]

What an amazing channel you got! Btw, do you have any problems with the German authorities because of your car being EURO 5 (or EURO 4)?

[@Vera_and_Christian]

No, only if you go into restricted zones, but then you do that on purpose. Every German knows where they are. 👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@freespeech2261]

OMG.........Amen.

[@ngasilingowe8375]

So, if I for any unknown ressons I buy a discovery 3, how do I know if the pump id updated?

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Unfortunately, you have to do your research. Ask the previous owner, let them show you the invoice from the shop. If it's build during that time, and nobody knows, you can probably assume that the oilpump has not been replaced. Ask also Land Rover if they have done it. Just make sure you either know it has been replaced or not, then you know what to do. 🙋‍♀Vera

[@ngasilingowe8375]

@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you for your I am in Africa, Tanzania, the land of Kilimanjaro. Unfortunately When we buy used cars there is no history.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

@@ngasilingowe8375 Yeah that is really unfortunate, and the smart thing to do, in your situation, is not buy one actually. Unless you are really confident that you can handle the repairs yourself and are able to get spareparts. 👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@danhayes3546]

Owning a scan tool also an extensive amount of tools🇬🇧👍

[@trevorbinnersley4144]

Dear Christian I live in Staffordshire ,Shropshire border Its very rare If you see a Toyota landcruiser but you see hundreds of Landrovers every day so if Toyotas are supposed to be so good why dont you see them on the roads ,I have owned my Disco 4 for 10 yrs a brill car and I know lots of people who own them with no problems and its tows better than anything else all your comments about the Toyota will not put me off my Landrover (why dont you buy a Landcruiser) regards Trevor

[@Vera_and_Christian]

We explain this again and again. Here in Germany, Toyota does not identify itself with the offroad / overland community. Only with the Hybrid and E-car drivers. You will not see a Land Cruiser at a single dealer near you. I assume it's the same in the UK. That is one of the main reasons we will not own a Toyota. If the company behind the vehicle is ashamed of it's existence in Germany, then well. Nobody buys them. 🙋‍♀️Vera

[@trevorbinnersley4144]

Thanks for the reply I know someone with a landcruiser done 400,000 miles that many things wrong with it he is going to scrap it Trevor

[@bugjuicer]

2:00 - those posts annoy me! It's like going to the doc and saying you hurt, expecting the doc to know exactly what's wrong

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Lol, exactly. Same with me. I feel like I have to educate then everybody but I dont. Christian

[@harveysmith100]

Now even my Land Cruiser gets 5w 40

[@jamesbrock5263]

Forgive me Father, for I have sinned.....

[@terrortorn]

Toyotas are Japanese so they have a ボンネット.

[@bobrose7900]

Because of this channel there will be Disco 3s and 4s running around well into the 22nd century...! Your passion is very addictive and I promise I will never buy a Toyota! Seriously, I've got a mate who is buying a Disco 4 today... guess what I've just been telling him - yes, engine diagnostics readout! Great, fun video, again.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

👍💪You'll save him a lot of troubles. 🙋‍♀Vera

[@hammyh1165]

So glad my Discovery is so old it doesn't have an OBD port 😂

[@philippevoordecker6956]

Hold it !

[@evanduggan431]

I wouldn't swap my old D2 complete with Nanocom for anything else.

[@philhawley1219]

What the hell is an OBD. I don't have one on my Discovery 1.

[@stlswagger]

I wasn't with my 95. Never again another pre-obd2. It was a pain. Thing was a tank but not knowing where to troubleshoot when data isn't as available. I'm so happy with my 2012 lr4. If something is off, I can scan and usually find someone else with the same issue with a fix I can do or learn to do

[@valentinalexandru2579]

Dear Christian, I can get your bet with waking me up in the middle of the night and asking me details about service history. I can answer even regarding on how many flies hit my windshield on my last jurney. Leaving the joke aside, you are so right about everything you said! I love you both! Thank you for being there for us and sharing your experience!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

I know you could 👍💪😃🙋‍♀Vera

[@DiHandley]

It really is an amazing world we live in now. I’m on the other side of the world in the middle of winter sitting in front of my fire with my iPad on my lap watching you two drive down an autobarn in the middle of summer. It feels like you’re my next door neighbour. Isn’t that great. Thanks guys. 👍🇦🇺

[@adda58]

Lol yes German summer looks good! Heater is on full blast here In Albury Wodonga too!!

[@DiHandley]

@@adda58 Gippsland, Victoria here! 👍

[@glynjones8187]

Out of curiosity how cold is the Australian winter?

[@DiHandley]

@@glynjones8187 along the coast sometimes down to freezing. Inland minus 10 during the night. Mountain ranges obviously enough snow to ski. That’s about it

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Didn't it snow during the first days of the Olympics in Sydney in 2000? It was the first hot weekend here with temperatures up to 38 degrees. That is actually a bit too much for me. I rather wear my down jacket 😅👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@gilbert7794]

I brought an OBD tool for my land cruiser, when I plugged it. In it laughed at me and said my fault is I wasted my money lol

[@raymondclark1785]

Mine needs the voice of that Georgia State Trooper, We have a failure to communicate!

[@Welder.]

First sin is for any newer car... sticking a diagnostic tool on a car thats not yours is like sex before marriage... definitely needs to happen... haha.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Oh I don't agree with you, and I think Christian also not. 😅👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@eccosabanovic1589]

...bmw plastic coolant pump failures are charm of its own, making land rover oil pump issues as small matter...over here(Singapore/Malaysia), so so many of those with busted engines because of that plastic thing..

[@mattcartwright8272]

Possibly the most brilliant video on KZbin this week! I think you guys need to come to the UK to one of the LR owner's shows and do Q & A on stage. I think everyone would love it!

[@davelr3x474]

With three LR’s in my driveway and no diagnostic tool I’m likely the worst sinner. Great content. Keep it coming

[@davelr3x474]

Unfortunately mine are all petrol;-) My ‘05 LR3-HSE has about 250k and is my daily driver. My daughter’s daily driver is an ‘08 RRS-HSE with about 125k. Last but not least is my wife, she drives the ‘11 RRSSC with about 125k.

[@Traderhorn]

My old series 3 Land Rover reliable, occasional servicing and put fuel in and drive it, now it seems Land Rover owners have to regularly replace parts as they are failing bad design?, I always enjoy your videos although I don’t have a Discovery and how you solve problems a brilliant engineer, what would modern owners do without your videos, lucky you didn’t choose a Toyota Land Cruiser you’d have to make videos of family dog/cat.

[@jeffreywilkinson2679]

Great video as always Vera & Christian. Thank you. Agree with your three sins. Scott H (below) makes a good point, that the plastic coolant outlet is also an engine killer. It could be added to your "List of Sins" that owners should know the history of this part. If you need to top up the coolant, track down the cause and diligently check the coolant outlet and consider replacement.

[@tonythorne4623]

Sin number 1 buying a Landover in the first place. Here in the UK and probably every where else on the planet. Every garage owner rubs there hands together when a Landover enters there premises. Technicians weep. My question is why on earth would you buy such a inherently flawed vehicle in the first place. Buy Toyota and banish your fault codes readers to the bottom draw of your tool box. You will have a nice clean garage floor to. Ps seriously love your videos very helpful and we'll put together.

[@martinbradshaw692]

A minor sin albeit not too difficult to fix, is not checking to see if the tailgate release actuator has been replaced. It's definitely a job to do before it goes wrong. Just did my D4 the hard way. Love your videos.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

I did our LR3 the hard way too. I also installed a manual release wire in case it happens again. Christian

[@MrBadtoad1]

OMG OMG. first thing. Christian please breath. Lol. Second Vera from the uk it is so nice to see you drive the way you do. In the uk people will always hog the road and never pull out overtake then pull back in. Another great video. 👍👍👍

[@bohicajohnson7203]

The zeroth sin is buying one in the first place. Says the guy that is looking at changing from a D2 to a D4!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😂At least you know in what kind of a mess you can get yourself into.👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@andresposso822]

Hi, completely true number 2. Two years ago I bought a used LRD3, sent to an autorized LR dealer in order to change the timing belt and other essentials maintenance. After 5000k had a major breakdown, engine light up, not possible to analyse with the IDtool in the middle of the road. After checked the engine, found the sin 2 to be true... Major fault of the engine... Big and costly one... Thanks for all the explanations, regards

[@Vera_and_Christian]

He should have changed the oilpump with the timing belt. 🙄Shows aga in that we all, as Land Rovers owners, just need to know more about our cars than the certified LR mechanic who don't give a damn. 👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@DiscoGruffalo]

Sin 1. I bought a D3 sight unseen in a different country with no diagnostic unit. It ended well. I was lucky. Then I bought a Lynx. Then I bought an IID tool, then when I got my Discovery 4, I bought another IID tool for that one. I inspected that D4 in Spain for 2 hours with my IID tool and a jack, I was wearing my Land Rover Toolbox overalls, and got €1000 off the price as a result of the inspection. Sin 2. My 2005 D3 ran the old oil pump for over 250,000 km. I changed the belt at 150,000km and didn't change the oil pump. I changed the pump on the second belt change at 300,000km Sin 3. Not guilty. I bought both mine at about 87,000km, and they had just the basic LR dealer servicing. Since then, they have both now done 320,000km and I have a full service record. So 2 out of three for me.

[@seanhammon6639]

Love it! I was brought up VERY Catholic, all this talk about duty and failing and guilt and sin... (even the sin of omission!) really works on a Sunday! I love you guys! 😂😜☠️

[@frglee]

I get the impression from online sources that old LRDs are great cars to own, especially if: a. You are mechanically gifted. b. You are married to, or related to, or a great chum of someone mechanically gifted or c. You are wealthy enough to pay someone who is mechanically gifted. Less so, if none of these conditions apply.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Yes that is what we always preach , if you can't fullfill any of the above, a Land Rover is not the right car for you. 😅👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@stuarth43]

big one, do not use cruise control on anything but the flat, applies especially to d3, 4, they are heavy, drive command shift, listen to your motor, downshift when it loads, keep your INSTANT FUEL mode on and you can take advantage of this I'd tow a light trailer and not load the roof with all that crap, wind drag kills economy yeppers like my CARSOFT diag tool but is does not give fuel usage readouts, torque it reads and often a fault is not a fault, in this case i shut down and restart I know i get better fuel eco than both of you, especially Wonder Woman, driving a heavy vehicle taught me how to manage that, so there!!👌

[@adda58]

I confess- only bought my diagnostic unit after handing over the cash, also joined the forums too - bought a D2 V8, should have bought a D3 TDV6 !!!!!!!!!!!!

[@adda58]

And Icarsoft wasn’t around so I bought a Hawkeye tool from Atlantic British. As soon as I bought it, a new model came out that covers all models, does more and is the same price! Do your homework!!!! Mine has saved the day a few times so I am happy!!!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

I would love to have a V8. D2 is too expensive to drive in Germany. Christian

[@Fe_lix]

4:34 : "it also fuels the bad reputation" Don't worry I think you are doing that perfectly well on your channel =) As A Toyota driver I love to watch your videos with some popcorn, so relaxing and funny to watch LR issues xD

[@PrettyGreenMonk]

I love the discovery looks and practicality luxury etc, but sat here in my hilux watching this much the same as you 😁

[@toddhoffmaster6057]

As a Jeep owner we always have a check engine light on. I would love to have the space and comfort of a LR Discovery/Defender, but I can not afford 2 vehicles with check engine lights always on. lol

[@t0nit04]

same :)

[@batmanlives6456]

If you want to go four wheel driving get a LR If you want to get home again buy a Toyota Christmas tree of lights on a LR just means you are in a LR

[@andrewmitchell6351]

Forgive me, Land Rover, for I have sinned ..... I am currently chasing a dynamic response system error on my 2008 L320 RRS .... my iCarSoft reader doesn't seem to read sub-codes, and I need to get to a lower level than 'C1B11' and 'C1119' to understand what the problem is.....fortunately, I did not buy the reader, however, I would not be recommending the iCarSoft i930 for this application, as I cannot see that it provides a sufficiently granular diagnostic output to pinpoint a problem.

[@GoranSkular]

I am a big sinner. I would like to slam myself in the face back when I went to buy a high mileage 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 couple days ago. Now I am stuck.. and don't know what to do. If i sell it, I will loose money.. I need to confess and make some plan :)

[@sienaoverland]

I agree with your “3 sins” but feel that the plastic coolant outlet is just as important as the oil pump. An engine killer that every owner should know the history.

[@richardgraham7672]

The really stupid thing about this problem is it wouldn't have to be an engine killer if LR had just implemented some sort of warning chime so the driver knew there was a problem instantly instead of just saying "LOW COOLANT LEVEL" cycling on the dash with no other info. You might not see that for a while. All the Audis I've had have had made lots of loud beeps when there is an issue with a critical system like this.

[@reneleeuwenkamp3456]

Good Morning Christian and Vera, sorry I don't agree with you.We are Landrover specialist and see the craziest things wen people start to diagnose themselves. You are technical so it works but many do not.Personally i have been driving Discovery 3 for many years without to many problems good maintenance is important perfromed by people who really care about the brand.I think that's the key. Have a nice sunny day.

[@awalk5177]

The first sin is buying a Land Rover that NEEDS a diagnostic unit. Buy something from before the ECU was introduced . There are Discovery and Defender that did not need a diagnostic system. They are simple vehicles that don't need it. I have owned both a Discovery and Defender and they did not have all these crazy fault lights and electronics. They were reliable (190K miles I put on the Discovery) and you dont need the electronic versions.

[@martinbradshaw692]

PS. Christian. If you would like me to send you my failed actuator, which I suspect is 11 years old. I would be happy to do so, at my expense. Martin.

[@keithrm26]

I bought an icar v3.0 before i got my land rover discovery 3 it had 24 faults through various systems cleared it all then bought it, good part of the deal they replaced the battery and put a new fuse cover on free of charge.

[@vmax1399]

Well Christian and Vera I bought mine cos it was big and green and shiny first thing that tortured me what's the electric parking brake everything seized and rusted oh what fun the next thing was front prop shaft apparently it has had a new clutch and they hadn't replace the prop shaft bolts bless them then I did the cambelt change it went perfect new oil pump at the same time however they supplied me something called a genuine seal for the oil pump front which it wasn't and it was .05 mm smaller then the Land Rover part also it had little ribs on it guess what my genuine seal popped out luckily I didn't lose me engine but I wasn't very pleased new belts in everything going to see if I can get some sort of recompense from supplier I bought the Disco so as I could have a few jobs to do in my retirement as I am along summer it hasn't disappointed I do have another vehicle so I can work on it at leisure I don't need to do yoga or martial arts all the contortions just doing Standard jobs on this creature keep me as fit as a flea thank you for your channel guys

[@dougwernham5209]

Thanks for the video. Need to purchase GAP IID tool!

[@davidbaker3270]

ha ha maybe i i do have 2 cronky range rovers yes p38 is broken again thats why we own a volvo xc90 when you need to go it has to be able to go both ways without breaking down just popped up to northhumberland for a week away and not think why the run light came on after putting a new set of glow plugs in grr the joys of landrovers lol vera i would drive any thing without air bags and gadgets have done all my life till they started appearing

[@Jim-fo7hc]

what a great video I love my disco 3 on a 08 plate, but don't understand it. I have lots of questions. I am taking it too the garage otuesday toget the rear door actuator replaced, I will asking the garage lots of questions about getting a sin 1gadget

[@ianwheat1577]

Hi again if I ever got to own a disco 3 which I don't think so I do have the skills or equipment or the time to repair it . I will stick with my old 300 TDI with no diagnostic socket it's old it's slow but it gets me every were I need to go without any disco lights on dash coming on

[@gordonwedman3179]

Take it to the dealership for a pre purchase inspection. Cheaper than buying a GAP tool. Buy that when you need it.

[@danhayes3546]

Sin number 4 would be to rely on the original Jack that the discovery 3 comes with for changing your wheels

[@Vera_and_Christian]

We had to use it only ones, but it's my worst nightmare if I have to use it on my own one day. 👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@darrelldavison3876]

Very very true thankyou even though my disco 3 is 4lt petrol same Christmas tree 😂😂

[@saschaglobisch2598]

I must say jeep and Land Rover are the same, for both the most important tool is the diagnostic scanner tool 😆

[@joemonageng6292]

Thanks for the information. How do we contact you for the discovery?

[@OhTenenbaum]

15:30 I was able to tell all these things within less than a second but acutally I am not proud of it b/c it simply means that I own a Discovery. 😂😂😂

[@Rickwardful]

The BIGGEST sin of all is not to love your Land-Rover. Be proud of it and look after it. After all, there is one one vehicle that will go anywhere in the world, INCLUDING Buckingham Palace, with pride! No other vehicle in the world can do this. Unless you are as clever as Christian and Vera, find a non franchised shop that is good with Land-Rovers and understands them. There are many of them out there that are as proud of the brand as we owners are. They will appreciate that although we might not be clever enough or have time to fix them, that by having watched Christian and Vera at work, we care for the brand too.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Agree. Christian

[@cjhickspe1399]

Owning an LR3 means getting used to seeing it say "service required" every time you start it.

[@jamiebanister509]

Hi Christian and Vera. I own a land rover discovery 2 I've owned it for 10 years and apart from the normal Land rover bits and bobs going wrong its been great. I always have two code readers onboard just in case one fails. The only thing wrong I live at pump 3 at my local gas station (4.6 V8) I can only dream of owning a diesel living on the west coast of Canada you have to have half a million dollars to get a diesel. Maybe a Toyota is needed I believe they run on fresh air.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😄That's a good one. 🙋‍♀️Vera

[@robertpearse237]

Hello from Australia Christian and Vera. I use a hawk-eye diagnostic tool. My local 'independent' land rover service works told me when i bought my D3, now got a D4, that it was as important as having a spare wheel. So i got it and use it. it's wonderful tool. Love your videos. Keep us the good work.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😃💪🙋‍♀Vera

[@stevemorris3710]

Isn't this engine Ford/Peugeot?

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Yes it is, we have covered that topic in many, many videos 😅👍🙋‍♀Vera

[@stevemorris3710]

@@Vera_and_Christian Great, thanks! I'll check out your videos on it :-)

[@stfncreatormodeon]

so great video 😅👌👌👌

[@SCGFunktionsmodellbau]

Then i am a Saint, But in the Last 15 Years i had never a breakdown or Something, except from the Blown Out Crankshaftseal, and this was the fault from the TÜV Guy. I dont know anybody that revs the Engine repeatedly over 4800 RPM...🤔

[@dafyddhumphreys8921]

😆 finally you flipped 😆 Love German humour.

[@dnscud1]

Happy Father’s Day Christian. Hello Vera

[@iamgermane]

Diagnostic tools? Most 4x4s in the USA do not need them!

[@dadgarage7966]

The SL driver at 10:09 seems unburdened by all these sins.

[@daidavies6210]

The Biggest Sin was selling them in Germany……….

[@MarkSpohr]

Glad I have a Disco 2 gas engine. 200,000 miles

[@gastondicastelnuovo8857]

Well Christian and Vera, now in worried! I thought after replacing both LPFP and HPFP I would love and enjoy my car ( as I'm doing for the last 2k km) but now you tell me something worst can come out! Oh Lord! My VIN is SALLAAA149A497922 and I've had the timing belt replaced 7k km ago. What should I do?

[@Vera_and_Christian]

You have to do what Christian said in the video, unfortunately. You have to do your research and find out if your oilpump has been changed. Go through your records or ask the garage where your vehicle has been serviced in the past. Whoever did the timing belt, should have advised you to replace the oilpump. If they were Land Rover people. And if you replaced the timing belt and HPfp yourself, then you'll have no problems changing the oilpump. That is a walk in the park. 😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@naturemixmv7667]

This was very entertaining. I wonder now if I should get a diagnostic tool for my three Fords. I wanted to ask you now in case I forget to ask you next time we talk. I predict this video gets a lot of views. Good title and very provocative right from the start. You sound like me when I talk to people about nutrition, getting all excited, saying things like, "How the Hell can you not know, or not care, exactly what happens to your body and brain when you stuff all the various different things into your pie hole?!?!?!"

[@leonmouton4133]

Christian guilty as charged

[@equaliser2265]

Land Rover Freelander TD4 auto 2006, 190000 miles, just done 7000km around Europe to UK and back to Kosovo via France Italy Albania. Not one problem, drive with mechanical sympathy, service regularly.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Of course your not having any problems, it's a Freelander, not a Discovery. 💪😅But I have to say, my Freelander had it's regular repairs, always the same stuff broke, every single year. 🙋‍♀Vera

[@anthony.m.lamotta2337]

I must confess. I purchased an LR4… site unseen!! No diagnostic tool either. Since, I have repented of my sins, and after the check engine light has come on twice for no reason, and have purchased one. 🙏🏻 I was the “Toyota driver” and hoped that the lr4 would be as simple as, turn the key and driver for the next 15 years 😅

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅👍🙋‍♀️