General Grievous vs Jedi (Full scene)

[@erikm8373]

I've realized this Grevious is so good against Jedi because he fights with a completely unique style. When Jedi are practicing or even fighting Sith, the opponent will have at most two lightsabers and will almost always be using a recognizable form. There's no way to prepare for an enemy who can spin their torso 360 degrees and wield 3+ blades at once while breakdancing

[@chimerical8746]

Also, sith and jedi use the force to fight as well which means they both know each others moves a little bit before its shown, not with grievous tho, he has almost no connection to it and that makes him 100 times more deadlier to those who rely on it. Same with magna gaurds and anti jedi droids

[@slumbertrap6506]

you can analyze the crap out of this fight just to see how Grevious fights. example Fear tactics: 2:49 (more then once honestly) Divide and conquer: 3:25 staggering opponents/keeping opponents unfocused: 3:39 also keeping opponents off guard by keeping tactics of fighting unpredictable man i wish this Grievous was cannon....

[@lejenddairy]

He also used fear tactics, shown targeting the youngest Jedi here and overwhelming the rest. This Grievous was the best!

[@mr.angryman3599]

@@chimerical8746 him not having a force connection makes him weaker not stronger lmao all he can do is use sabers all they have to do is force crush his lungs like windu did

[@Jedslegomovies]

@@mr.angryman3599 I mean for sure he'd be way stronger if he could use the force, but just because he can't doesn't mean you can sleep on him either. Mace was able to do that because he got the jump on Grievous, but it's usually the other way around. And though hypotheticals probably don't matter much, it might be worth noting that most other jedi probably wouldn't do that if they got the jump on Grievous since jedi are only supposed to use the force for defense, but Mace has no chill.

[@roaringthunder115]

The fact that this was the character’s debut was so badass In his first character appearance alone he killed half of the Jedi there.

[@firetools]

It's a shame the Greivous we have now is so radically different from when he was first introduced.

[@juliancabrera555]

I didn’t grow up with this series and I wish I did

[@chscelebrity8325]

@@firetools what’s the grievous we have now?

[@rdr2v1nce7]

He reckt 3 members of the councel, space shaggy, space naruto and whatever the other one is

[@fhinpus]

@@chscelebrity8325 the prequel grievous

[@Blargleflakes]

“And the others?” “They are all dead, sir. Especially your padawan, like man is he dead. Grievous really, I mean really did him in. Nothing left but red paste... sir.”

[@misterdewott8766]

"In all honesty, I'm surprised that not even the clothes survived. It was literally just a red splatter. It's a bit impressive, sir."

[@nerddragon2222]

Except one who played dead

[@nerddragon2222]

That first guy who ran in was a complete idiot

[@Tokenlightskin_]

Nerd Dragon yeah he’s a joke character. His name is Sha’a gi, a reference to the scooby doo character shaggy.

[@HumanTooth]

@@Tokenlightskin_ Ironic, because this version had absolutely no chill

[@achannelhasnoname5182]

Grievous saying he's merciful by granting the Jedi a warrior's death fits his character so incredibly well.

[@DarksaberForce]

Remnants of his Kaleesh warrior heritage.

[@lucabestea6844]

Indeed.

[@wilder11]

Listen I love this scene as much as the next bloke but that's one of the most common things a villain says. Ever. XD

[@adri2shadow]

I gotta say, Shakti hold her ground alone pretty well, and she avoided the fatal blow

[@Clooger-]

​@@wilder11Doesn't change how well it fits. Crying about it is weird.

[@Kyl0_ben]

A reminder that Grievous was originally fucking terrifying. Wish they kept this up in Episode III.

[@a.morphous66]

I kind of find him hard to take seriously in this series with that voice. His current voice is so much better.

[@darthdrake3095]

Spoiler: Windu damaged his lungs.

[@a.morphous66]

kartoffel Salat You forgot that the final episode of this series where Grievous gets his chest crushed takes place AFTER the Clone Wars series does. Grievous just has a better voice in the canon timeline.

[@sandansaiyan5675]

Ben Merrill did you see last minutes?

[@sandansaiyan5675]

@WILLIAM WEST yep. Cuz he was afraid that would be another one Jedi who could hurt his lungs. Unfortunately he found that guy😂

[@julioacceus253]

"Unstoppable. He's Unstoppable!" That's how Grievous should be. He was the Darth Vader of the Clone Wars!

[@finris1]

His body was literally the prototype for Vader's suit.

[@devontek7760]

@@finris1 incorrect but okay

[@devontek7760]

@@finris1 however I do grant you in legends vader was secretly working on making a better suit without handicaps that would've been like grievous'

[@weiserthanyou2052]

fitting, that he should be given a major injury to his respiratory system not long before his death (well, Vader's was fatal. Grievous' gave him a nasty cough and may have limited his abilities/made him wary of direct engagement with other powerful Jedi for ROTS)

[@thomaspearson8078]

@@devontek7760 His statement was correct, but ok.

[@steel749]

If Ki-adi worried less about the droid attack on the wookiees & more on general grievous than maybe shaggy would have survived

[@Priceluked]

Steel 74. W H A T. A B O U T. T H E W O O K I E S?

[@itwontcomeout5678]

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?

[@MiorAkif]

No joke, character's name is listed as Sha'a Gi

[@torezcoasters6043]

*Wookiees

[@yoda4833]

I fucking love this comment

[@ShotgunMcgee666]

Honestly the best part for me is at 4:32, something I never appreciated as a kid. At this point, if my memory serves, we didn't know Grievous had any organic material in him. He was just the Droid General. So when he turns and reveals an organic eye, meaning there's an organic brain in that metal shell calling the shots and performing those moves, it's terrifying. Also the fact that the eye betrays no emotion. No glee, no joy, no fear, no surprise, nothing. Just Grievous hunting Jedi like prey.

[@wrongchew3423]

Honestly I think it would've been scarier (for the Jedi) if he was entirely a droid. The big contrast in the militaries of the Clone Wars was that the separatists had quantity, not quality. The Jedi and Republic overcame the overwhelming numbers of the droid threat by having better troops, better coordination, and the elite Jedi. Imagine the concern the Jedi have when see one droid absolutely annihilate an entire squad of Jedi. Now imagine their fear once they realize that droids are mass producible, and there could be more than one General Grievous.

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@wrongchew3423 Which was what originally made the IG-100 "MagnaGuards" so scary. A mere droid capable of going toe to toe with and even killing most Jedi. Ofcourse, retcons and bad writing have reduced them to a gimmick that even a novice can effortlessly destroy entire squads of in seconds. Similarly with what happened to Grievous.

[@baron3904]

​@@ForsakenDreamer7Were those the same model as Grievous' bodyguards in Episode 3? At least there that movie did them some justice. As a droid, to last any amount of time against the likes of Skywalker and Kenobi is impressive

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@baron3904 Yes, those two were the very first models in the IG-100 series: IG-101 that fought Kenobi and IG-102 that fought Skywalker. In the novel, which is based on the older version of the movie's script, the fight was much longer and had the MagnaGuards actually landing hits on and overwhelming the two Jedi.

[@baron3904]

​@@ForsakenDreamer7Cool I need to read that again

[@aspennanderson4956]

2:34 I love how well depicted the difference of stature between Padawan, Knight and Master is. The padawans sweating and jerking his head left and right with his saber drawn, the knight has his weapon drawn too but is steady and on guard, while the Master doesn't even have his saber on and is just listening.

[@kreuzer9877]

except immediately after that it shows the master sweating too.

[@Redfield123]

@@kreuzer9877 But you can tell the difference. The Master is on guard, and is listening, while the Padawan is terrified, and paranoid. Maybe they both are sweating, but there's a clear difference in their behavior.

[@chrishca438]

It’s called Form zero of lightsaber combat

[@yurilouback6331]

And is interesting how altered Ki Adi is by 5:52

[@redditor7548]

@@Redfield123 they were all terrified but the master doesn’t let his fear consume him like the Padawan does

[@cowdotking5012]

“Would you fight General Grievous for a Scooby Snack?”

[@soovi4522]

YES WAGGY

[@rexlumontad8078]

cowlord Looks like the Jedi got no Scooby Snacks lol.

[@Yousef-pp6iu]

@@rexlumontad8078 well it was worth knowing him

[@rexlumontad8078]

raoh the king of fists Shame he didn't get to go down swinging but died unceremoniously.

[@ricardonoir3947]

imagine if he said zoinks when he was crushed

[@NewgirlNola]

The sheer terror and desperation in ki adi mundi’s voice when he says “shoot him down, shoot him down!” Is such good voice acting. He had just witnessed this monster brutally murder 3 of his friends and critically injure 2 others.

[@eren34558]

Exact mundi is a sociopath. This isn't like him

[@joshuaded1052]

Well he thought that the 2 were dead

[@KrillintheVillain]

Makes it even better when dooku said you must break them. He made ki adi mundi hysterical and anxiously fearful. Especially since he was trying to be the more level headed one in the group

[@brycemanasco5473]

Same with Fordo's "Backup NOW!" Line. Like it's one of the few times where is a hint of panic in his voice. Not even when he was being overrun on Coruscant did he have that hint of concern

[@michaelchristidis8658]

The fact that I felt worried for the ship and the pilot when Fordo called for backup says a lot about how intimidating this Grievous is...

[@AnimatedTerror]

The sheer awesomeness when he called for backup and the ship near instantly blows through the hull of the wreckage as the music cuts out and grevious stares down the ship… it’s unreal!

[@tarektechmarine8209]

Gunship is best boi

[@Bandit-by8kl]

Excessive fire power was not in Fordo’s dictionary

[@Halo0115]

That’s why Tartakovsky is masterclass

[@two_tone_bandit]

Grevious: "I will grant you a warrior's death." Also Grevious as he squashes padawan Shaggy like a bug: "SIKE!"

[@Scary_Snail129]

Shaggy was a warrior bug

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

Grievous: "I said Jedi... And you aren't a Jedi yet, are you, padawan?"

[@elgatopuntogatos2885]

A warrior’s death, indeed

[@chris-tm8ok]

Well he died in battle so that might count.

[@brunowillich1837]

He just ran like an idiot,didn't deserve a warrior's death

[@lsthero5863]

I love how griveous shows some respect for the jedi and wishes to give them “a warrior’s death”, something very important to the Kaleesh people

[@yasininn76]

And then he squashes Shaggy like a fly

[@guifdcanalli]

@@yasininn76 yeah, it was more like a morbid joke, he doesnt see the jedi that help to slaugher his people as great warriors

[@dreamerofryleh4016]

Well to be fair, that was a cowards move on sha’gis part, grievous probably didn’t see him as a warrior

[@Tokmurok]

@@dreamerofryleh4016 of course not he's part of the gang.

[@Vanedis]

@@dreamerofryleh4016 Lol, I see what you did there

[@thegooddoctor413]

I love how Grievous used fear, intimidation, and surprise like Dooku taught him. Fear was from him stopping the droid assault, intimidation from his speech, and surprise was a by product of pulling the prior two off perfectly.

[@thedecafe1]

I love ❤️ lol 😂

[@observer2484]

And death from above to kill one of the jedi did not hurt either.

[@nurzhan888]

1:26 skubi doo

[@LokiTheClever]

I mean he coukd have just used the droid army to finish them but he wanted to prove how strong he was (and to his credit very thoroughly accomplished that)

[@KuchiKopium]

Dang man...almost 20 years later, and this still gets my heart racing from the suspense. Tartakovsky is a genius

[@Christopher-qq4dl]

😂

[@Marcara081]

Yes, he is. He's just born in a time where he's not being appreciated because well, he refuses idealized characters and ideas. In short, his work prompts questions and not answers, which producers (propagandists) hate.

[@motokokoto]

oh, it makes sense now. Dude is the GOAT.

[@megamillion5852]

​@@Marcara081What is blud actually waffling about?! Tartakovsky is plenty admired today. The very comment you responded to was only 8 months ago as of this reply! No idea what narrative this is you've created here of his victimization.

[@bondseanbond5190]

@@Christopher-qq4dlright (July 21st,2023 and August 11th,2023/🙂).

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

"General Grievous will run and hide like he always does - he's a coward." UM...

[@donnellebarfield3964]

Yeah cause challenging a jedi master with an army of super clones makes you a coward.

[@mrschizo2837]

The force crush is absolutely no longer canon and he was just always like that according to Disney. What a bunch a bullshit.

[@potatohead7579]

Pepe's Kebabs To be fair, he kind of reedemed himself on the comics, killing Mother Talzin and doing pretty well against Asajj Ventress. But this Grievous is still badass.

[@PlaystationGamerZX]

TheAwesomeDarkNinja This cartoon is long before Clone Wars 2008.... Blame Dooku because he told grievous it best to run away

[@CousinJesse1]

Since The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi & Battlefront 2 we no longer consider Disney canon.

[@frostyguy1989]

I wish we could have kept this version of Grievous canon. Notice how he seems to fight almost impulsively. If you've ever seen HK-47's tips on how to kill Jedi, he'll tell you that you want to be spontaneous and make stuff up on the spot so that the Jedi can't predict what you'll do next.

[@chaosinc.382]

Ooh, good point. Grevious seems very skilled at moving faster than one can think.

[@sunhunter0914]

Aight this just reminded me that the Reason why Taskmaster is afraid to face Deadpool is because he's too insane and unpredictable so he can't copy his fighting style which is literally what he does to beat people...but since that doesn't work well can't do much against him So basically give Deadpool two lightsabers and watch him kill Jedi for fun

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Is it not Canon? I mean you can always pretend it's Canon.

[@lazarus9165]

So just be confusing and there'll be no survivors, gotcha.

[@Endersoul-tx1of]

@@lazarus9165 If you don't know what you're doing, then the enemy sure as hell won't.

[@AdmiralOctopus]

As much as I love the 2008 Clone Wars series, this will always be the best portrayal of Grievous. This is what he SHOULD have been like.

[@randomcenturion7264]

AdmiralOctopus- Agreed friend. I liked Grievous, but THIS is what we needed to see. A Jedi killing machine that's pretty much the Grim Reaper with Lightsabers. Even if it's pretty OP, this is how Grievous goes on a hunt.

[@b1battledroidslivesmatter701]

AdmiralOctopus if he had the voice of the canon grievous he would be perfect

[@SuperBoyboys]

canon grevious's voice is shit this voice is far better and fitting of the character.

[@joshuakim5240]

+Finbar Brolly 2003 Grievous being OP actually made sense if you think about it. The CIS needed some kind of OP balancing factor against the jedi who effortlessly destroyed countless platoons of battle droids by themselves. It honestly made no sense that the CIS were even a threat with how ludicrously superior the jedi and clone army were in every way. Having a smart, powerful leader who could tip these scales would explain how the CIS were a threat; a role that Grievous was supposed to fulfill in this series.

[@tyrannicfool2503]

joshua kim Well the Jedi got their asses kicked at geonosis before the clones arrived so I don’t think that is the reason, or at least the only reason. More like they needed a competent general and the Jedi killer badass was a plus.

[@kamenraider1175]

Something to point out: Grevious isn't even using all his arms, he was still holding that ace up his sleeve while taking out several Jedi single handedly

[@MrPezsgess]

He is one of my favorite characters in the entire series. Too bad that Grievous can't be animated properly because it would cost a shitton of money.

[@keremtukel8178]

I think he didn’t have 4 arms at that point. He was later operated on by the guys that anakin killed, who gave him the 2 additional arms

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@keremtukel8178 He did. By the time he was training with Dooku before the battle of Geonosis he already had the split lines on his arms.

[@bobafett8768]

Conversely, when Mace Windu engaged him during the Battle of Corusant, Grievous immediately takes out all 4 light sabers to face him before Mace simply force crushes his ribs. But between that scene and this one, it builds up both Grievous & Windu. Grievous knowing that he could easily handle all 5 jedi at once, yet recognizing Windu as far superior and requiring his full efforts.

[@syenous2454]

@@bobafett8768 It also annoys me that there are people wanking grievous to be stronger than Windu in lightsaber combat, they're like "WIndu was so scared of Grievous that's why he immediately resorted to using the force, there's no way Windu can keep up with someone who can spin sabers twenty times a second" but then they forget that Windu and Sidious were described by Anakin to be blurs and Anakin himself also has insane reaction speed so Windu could defintely keep up with Grievous using lightsabers

[@willthomas2310]

This version of Grievous was terrifying

[@unicornidiots5177]

completely agree with you Will Thomas

[@janehrahan5116]

I consider this more cannon than ep 1-3 tbh XD

[@colaharereadmydescription667]

will Thomas yes

[@IndianaJones84476352]

Pepe's Kebabs this will always be canon to me regardless of what Disney says. This show was my introduction to the Star Wars universe, I watched it before I even saw any of the movies. What Disney considers canon has no effect on what I consider canon. As far as I'm concerned, the entire sequel trilogy is non-canon, because it's just a massive streaming pile of SJW crap.

[@Popdaddy88]

Indiana Jones could not agree more

[@megajoecaco786]

Imagine a horror game where you play as a very young padawan and you need to escape from General Grievous

[@gabrielgendron4745]

Mister Illumin Jedi isolation.

[@AAhmou]

you might be into something, With Republic commando-ish setting it could be a legitimate horror game.

[@zillafire101]

I remember one comic, one of my favorites, where he captured a bunch of Padawans and planned to turn them into cyborgs like himself. He had the entire Ugnaut population on the world herded into one area, and when a Padawan mouthed off, had her watch as he blow up the building. It's one of my favorites because, despite being a tragic villain, it still made Grievous a terrifying, monstrous foe.

[@pirateman1144]

A padawan trying to escape order 66.

[@Revan_Reborn]

what comic was that? i may have to buy it

[@OuterRimPride]

2:40 "zoinks! Like, gee Mundi! General Grevious is coming! Let's run for it!" -Jedi Shaggy

[@liaminator4950]

Rip in spaghetti, never forgetti.

[@TheStanStanmanson]

His name is Sha gi

[@liaminator4950]

...Actually?

[@evolvedturtleproductions7600]

Yep, actually...

[@kyzzori572]

Evolved Turtle Productions Yes, he was actually based off shaggy

[@johnathonrouse7581]

The fact grievous got kiadi mundi the absolute pllar of jedi orthodoxy pissing his pants in fear and demanding his clones that grievous be shot down is a testament to just how remarkable grievous is in his element. His major downfall was taking a direct approach to combat , counter to door's teachings

[@omgitzthunderlol4598]

Bro had him shook to his core

[@yesshh2952]

Also the fact grievous is not force compatible at all. Though there was a side story I read were it basically implied before he underwent the surgery to become the cyborg his body was force sensitive but it's now lost to him cause well he's 95% machine now

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@yesshh2952 That was in a Canon comic. In Legends, it's a bit different. It's somewhat implied that Grievous was mildly Force sensitive and that it didn't change after he became a cyborg. He saw visions of the future, was able to sense Anakin's emotions and single him out among countless Republic starfighters during a space battle and felt the essense of the Jedi he killed in their lightsabers that he collected. Altough it's really unconfirmed.

[@michaelchristidis8658]

It speaks volumes about how terrifying Grievous is when you take into consideration the Jedi ARE NOT supposed to want anybody's death and yet here was a Jedi MASTER desperately ordering the clones to shoot him down

[@scipioafricanus2212]

One thing I love about this fight is we get to see Grevious' tactical mind at play too. He opens up the fight in a demoralising way by killing the Padawan and quickly identifies Ki Adi Mundi as the leader. There he ambushes them and tries to take out Ki Adi first but when he pushes Ki Adi to using his force abilities, he switches to evasive manoeuvres and avoids the masters until he has taken out the other lesser jedi. From there he uses his spinning blades and unorthodox fighting style to disoriente the exhausted jedi and isolate them. When he is ambushed by the arc troopers he quickly resorts back to evasion and tries to close the distance asap and calls it game only when the gunship arrives.

[@canderoussnurd4265]

Your observation is rather impressive. May I assume some sort of prior combat training?

[@scipioafricanus2212]

@@canderoussnurd4265 I wish. I wanted to join the navy but because I had asthma as a child, I was rejected. A bit pedantic but what can you do? Martial arts and HEMA are big hobbies of mine though.

[@scipioafricanus2212]

@The “Meat Chopper” yeah. It begs the question why that droid army just let the gunships fly right over them though. I know it was going really fast but they didn't even try to shoot at it

[@mouseburger4183]

@@scipioafricanus2212 grevious had them halt and hold fire assuming it was just the Jedi I assume the droids didn't fire because he never ordered them to

[@abdellah7879]

@@scipioafricanus2212 The clones blew up some bombs Which destroyed a part of the droid army giving them an opening to escape

[@ShadowtheRonin]

Somehow, I already knew Shaggy wouldn't be the best Jedi ever.

[@devc8161]

Daniel Rhodes yep

[@XenoJaed]

Sha Gi is best Padawan.

[@victorm152]

This makes me think of the recent epic Darth Vader scene in Rogue One. Brutal and terrifying

[@michaelgil990]

Both had no competition and both were slaughters

[@simonoilsup3111]

Victor M That Vader scene was disappointing, heard that Vader goes crazy, but we only see him for a few seconds

[@SubtleArboreal]

The real payoff of that scene isn't the combat, but the reaction shot when the troopers see Darth Fucking Vader ready to kill all of them. Fear incarnate.

[@darkpro0031]

Victor M actually the scene was only that. Btw when disney made the reshoots they added that scene because it wasn't in the movie before.

[@michaelgil990]

The scene was just Darth Vader fanservice

[@enderknight1442]

The fact that it took an ambush from an ENTIRE platoon, INCLUDING their aircraft, to make him commence a TACTICAL retreat really goes to show how much of a badass Grievous is.

[@bonelesschickennuggets1868]

And they had to immediately leave because if they stayed any longer Grievous would’ve monkey’d his way out to ambush THE SHIP

[@owenvanbokhorst4174]

Not to the squad that pulled up were some of the first arc troopers just shows good Grevious was

[@Purified_Water_Enjoyer]

​@owenvanbokhorst4174 Then he casually with almost zero effort kills like 3 of em. Dude, just...killed...three of the best clones ever made, one man armies like it was a standered Tuesday....

[@Myuutsuu85]

To be fair, if it weren't for the plot armor, Grievous would have died right then and there. I doubt those clones, especially the pilots/gunners, don't know how to lead a target.

[@michaelchristidis8658]

​@@Myuutsuu85a target that knows to maneuver inside a sea of debris that covers his form can be a little more than surprisingly hard to track let alone accurately shoot down, even from a very skilled pilot, the fact that the pilot had Grievous retreating is a feat by itself

[@Cybermat47]

So sad that Grievous wasn't as frightening in Episode III, and the later Clone Wars series had to base their portrayal on that :(

[@KaiserFranzJosefI]

+Cybermat47 Grievous still kicked ass in 2008

[@Cybermat47]

+Kaiser Franz Josef I true, but he didn't kick as much ass. I liked the bit where he killed the Jedi with a blaster while they were in a sabre-lock, though - that was awesome.

[@KaiserFranzJosefI]

i know that

[@moonpig2114]

+Mysterious Maximus cus he almost crushed his heart and damaged his organ's which is why he has that cough and breathing problem, which could effect his fighting abilities

[@servebotfrank4082]

+Ryan Im Not anymore. That's been declared non-canon. In the new version, he always had that cough and just sucks.

[@onedaxster]

"Jedi. You are surrounded, your army is decimated. Make peace with the Force now, for this is your final outing. But know that I, General Grievous, am not completely without mercy. I will grant you a warrior's death. Prepare!" Why couldn't we get this version of Grievous in the 2008 series?

[@timothybyrne9764]

Yea, there is a great vod that does a comparason of 2-8 and this. I hope they improve the character in the next cw season.

[@Awesum]

I got chills when he dropped that line. I offer you the honor of a warriors death. I thought man Grievous was a badass

[@Hennu_TRM]

I think he says, "this is your final hour."

[@TheGOAT-dr1sq]

Cus Lucas didn’t want a Vader copy walking around which sucks this Grevious was so cool…. And we didn’t even get to see Vader do anything cool like this all Vader is is a slow fighting robot man who fights like the 1980s films

[@rasamatazz9823]

God his pure white design as opposed to his dirty-yellow color in Revenge of the Sith is so cool, just this pristine white monster killing everyone is so rad

[@mythixthedragon6903]

Rasamatazz Cleaner design makes more sense here too because this was before Grievous sustained heavy injury from a fight and was a constant asthmatic.

[@MegamanZXOmega]

He wasn't yellow in Revenge of the Sith, he was still White, just not as clean as he was here. Since according to the message from the Jedi who asked Obi-wan for help, this was Grievous' first battle or so.

[@Fhnfunn]

MZX Omega he was a tarnish yellow

[@Fhnfunn]

MZX Omega tanish

[@mollybloxham8028]

I love his contrast with the background! Makes him stand out even more and shows how different he is from all the other darker, dirty looking characters. Shows that he hasn’t been effected by this fight like they have.

[@voidraldarken]

4:37 That second where he was utterly shocked at Grievous’ 3 lightsaber stance using his own lightsaber was so impactful. Yes, on its own it is a very simple very shocked expression, but the context of the reaction being from a master jedi realising he is fighting a complete monster of an opponent and that it matches perfectly with Grievous’ other blue lightsaber gave me chills. It shows how unbelievably powerful Grievous is and how he really is a monstrous jedi hunter.

[@wxles]

At 4:49 he even looks back down in confusion, like he hasn’t even seen anything like that before

[@blueguy2128]

​​@@wxlesholy fuck the leap and leg sweep he pulls ITS INSANE 🔥🔥

[@Anunnamedtank]

the leg sweep is cool but doesn't grievous have 4 arms?

[@blueguy2128]

@@Anunnamedtank yeah, he just uses them when shit gets real 🤣 in this faithful to the lore version of Grievous he doesn't need to use all his arms for the Jedi he fought. I'd say he'd need all 4 arms to fight people like Windu, Yoda, or a more mature Anakin. Cuz those 3 were powerful duelists

[@Anunnamedtank]

i feel like if you're fighting 6 jedi you'd wanna use 4 lightsabers

[@jortalus]

This is the REAL Grievous. When I tell people that one of my favorite Star Wars characters is "General Grievous," this is the one I'm talking about. He doesn't make many appearances, but he's the best new villain of the prequels when he's living up to his full potential as a character.

[@Bloooo95]

Yep. I agree. “I love General Grievous” is specific to this version of him. I don’t acknowledge every other on-screen portrayal of him.

[@WokeandProud]

This version is far more in line with someone born from a littreal warrior race then the cringe dork one we get in the movies.

[@SmokeyMountainSuccubus]

This will always be my favorite Grievous too, but given that every single other appearance is far less impressive I think we have to assume he just isn't this good. I wish they had done this scene with 5 unnamed Jedi and one council member, that would fit within the legends told about Grievous and explain why everyone is so afraid of him. But taking on 3 *master* jedi while they're backed up by 2 other knights? Even this Grievous should have lost, right? Idk this is such an amazing scene and such a fun Grievous to watch so maybe there's an argument that makes him the better portrayal, but a part of me feels like we're lying to ourselves.

[@jortalus]

@@SmokeyMountainSuccubus I think it's fair that he did what he did, because part of his tactics are fear and demoralization. He cornered them, psyched them out, then did a classic divide and conquer with overwhelming force and surprising tactics. In some ways, their numbers worked against them because they were trying to defend one another and rushed in to fight. Every engagement was on Grievous' terms.

[@EternalEmperorofZakuul]

@@WokeandProud And from that cringe TCW series

[@kylerdeardurff4734]

Then they nerfed him

[@hououinkyouma3864]

To be fair Obi Wan couldn't have killed him by himself if he fought THIS Grievous.

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@hououinkyouma3864 But then again, this Grievous would be wounded by Mace Windu and have only 4 days before fighting Kenobi. With crushed lungs, yeah.

[@Luxradian]

@@hououinkyouma3864 i think it would have been cool to see obi wan single handly take this grievous down it would show how skilled obi wan really was in comparison to the other jedi...obi wan was also known as being one of the best defensive jedis and only striking when the opponent made mistakes or rushed so i think it would have been awesome to see

[@hououinkyouma3864]

@@Luxradian Well the thing is Obi Wan was excelled in lightsaber duels but Grievous didn't use the traditional styles. This Grievous almost killed 2 Jedi masters at the same time without breaking a sweat.

[@MartyMcfly720]

Well he did get his lungs crushed by mace

[@Vasif_Bugrahan_Alparslan]

2003: Defeats 5 jedi, 2 of which are on the high council, ends up killing 2 of them. 2008: Cant even defeat Ahsoka.

[@Vasif_Bugrahan_Alparslan]

Defeats 6 jedi, kills 3

[@eliburry-schnepp6012]

+Buğra Alparslan He killed K'Krukh, it just didn't stick because he's the Kenny of Star Wars

[@conradojavier]

+Eli Burry-Schnepp But K'Krukh didn't survived the Disney Purge.

[@eliburry-schnepp6012]

Conrado Javier That's what they want you to think. The glory of the hat will never die!

[@jawafreak230]

+Buğra Alparslan He was obviously far more intelligent, cunning, and even honorable in this series of the Clone Wars. in the new cgi series, hes sadistic, cowardly, and an idiot. should have kept him the way he was in this cartoon.

[@sleeplessknight00]

Poor Shaggy.... that's one mystery he won't ever solve.

[@axterminus4465]

I wish General Grievous was this badass in revenge of the sith

[@gametimex3969]

Raxus For some reason he has bronchitis

[@gabrielcarrasco8414]

Windu crushed Grievous's chest, so probably his lungs and heart were taken. Grievous basically turned to face him, and Windu just used force crush, and that was it.

[@gametimex3969]

Gabriel Carrasco I was typing that before watching him vs windu. Mace really fucked his shit up

[@KNJfan]

I can understand why he was weak on episode 3, what I found insulting was that they made him a weak coward that cough all the time in the "new" clone wars series :(

[@gabrielcarrasco8414]

KNJfan Windu crushed his chest. But there's no real explanation as to why he was a coward.

[@jsharb43]

This Grievous would never have been beaten by gungans.

[@hoggers3524]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGK4gZaZqsmkow This will explain why he was so weak in the clone wars

[@isaiahhale6401]

Darth Danker no the 2008 grevious is not like the 2003 grevious

[@SolarDragon007]

Joshua S This Grevious would have made TCW into a TV-MA series by what he'd have done to those Gungans.

[@hoggers3524]

Oh I see then Anakin my mistake

[@globaloccultcoalition9074]

He would have. The thing is; he’s way too cocky. He didn’t think of them as anything to him; and therefore his cockiness got him screwed over.

[@geektropolis]

Can we just talk about how OP this guy is? Come on. He killed all the padawans, took out several clone troopers and almost killed the rest. He would have if the gunship didn’t come in. And what damage did he take? Just a ripped cape. This is the General Grievous I know. Also can we take a moment to listen to the music that’s playing through this? It’s horrifying.

[@bobertdankton4015]

He looked like he was gonna launch up and slice the gunship too, his footing looked like he was gonna rush at it not run.

[@lancecurry7538]

The crazy thing? He's isn't just simply OP. He's a smart fighter. Agility and reflexes aside, that is the genius behind Grievous' unorthodox fighting style. He's intimidating the Jedi by keeping on them and storming them with unrelenting force to make them break their guard. Moreso, he adds to it with his entrance, scaring the Jedi by abruptly ambushing them and stomping Sha'a Gi into the dirt. His unpredictability makes him scary. Dooku taught him this particular style to throw the Jedi off their game, demoralize them, and take advantage of their wavering state to cut them down.

[@michaelchristidis8658]

If you can see he does unusual moves during the fight so as to not look predictable to the Jedi managing to confuse them and catch them off guard

[@Zeithri]

Also known to the Jedi as " _Why do I hear boss music?_ "

[@geekhotel1785]

Also consider the fact that he held lightsabers with his feet (didn’t once have to resort to the four arms) and he CAUGHT A LIGHTSABER IN MID-AIR

[@LifetimeTechnec]

When you realize that Grevious is the only being to defeat Shaggy:

[@Keram-io8hv]

He was so quick that Shaggy couldn't use 0,000000000000000001% of his power

[@ruintheday13]

I don't get it

[@crusaderray1828]

@@ruintheday13 There's a youtuber who does star wars jedi stuff, and he looks exactly like shaggy from scooby doo.

[@Eggsecuter]

@@ruintheday13 im pretty sure its in a reference to the popular meme a few years back where Shaggy from scooby doo was actually an insanely strong character with powers.

[@nanjingmonkey467]

When you realize user-1s9iu9vw4x IS Ablebodied AND ALovely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@SuperNaurva]

when youre a high level and you go back to the starting area

[@vegas3352]

But you find a high level player too

[@baitposter]

tfw you're a high level ganking a starting zone, but then their alts and guildmates show up

[@deadinsidemcgee411]

Everything about him is terrifying in this scene, he’s easily 9 feet tall plus the style he was built with is angular and inspires the look of wickedly curved Africa tribal blades or the scimitar. Plus the fact that he can easily wield 4 blades is especially horrifying.

[@Memelord1117]

actually 5

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@Memelord1117 It's 6 in total with repulsors.

[@DumbRadicalPriestThizGuy44]

His toes are his weapon

[@cosminxz1076]

Bro he s 16 feet tall here 💀

[@KupiecKorzenny_EmhyrVarEmreis]

Still shorter than Anakin expected

[@jakeschaefer4473]

I like how grievous went back slick asf and slowly picked up the lightsaber. I can just hear him saying "mine".

[@atomicbuttocks]

*A F I N E A D D I T I O N T O M Y C O L L E C T I O N*

[@soundwave590]

I couldn't hear him

[@michelveilleux1275]

A lovely trophy.

[@camerongeesey1942]

Claim

[@TheMimic2035]

2003 General Grievous: 🐐🗿🍷 2005 General Grievous: ♿🧠🚫

[@JuanTheBuan]

Don't forget his lungs 💀💀

[@Ale-dd3ek]

At least 2005 has the excuse that windu crippled him

[@baron3904]

2008 General Grievous: 🦨💩🚮♿⚠️🚫

[@OXY187]

2024 General Grievous: 😈 😈 💀

[@TeeArCreep]

@@Ale-dd3ek yeah but it feels... Kinda forced in. Windu crushes Grievous' lungs, and from quite the distance. Why didn't he think of that previously?

[@Drac0blade16]

I just noticed at 4:00, they way his foot grabbed the jedi's head never switched position until it hit the ground... Considering he was caught by the face and brought straight down... Grievous just snapped the boy's head back like a Pez dispenser.

[@Railfan_Chester4628]

It literally, got crushed. Like its full metal body, imagine how painful was that.

[@Mikazuchireborn]

@@Railfan_Chester4628 It probably wasn't that, but only because he died instantly. I think Grievous just flung the dude's lifeless corpse along with Aayla.

[@Nebulasecura]

@@Mikazuchireborn yup. I barely survived that.

[@zeroarashiuchiha7699]

@@Nebulasecura yeah you was lucky

[@jotarogaming4626]

@@Nebulasecura let's hope no one shoots you in the back

[@chesterstevens8870]

Grievous in Clone Wars: wall-crawling whirlwind of death that can solo five Jedi. Grievous in ep. III: "HANG ON A SECOND I HAVE ASTHMA!"

[@forgottenrights351]

It's because Mace Windu crushed his lungs at the end of the 2003 series. Plus, they had to dial him back or he would be too tough to work into the movie (although with good writing they could have done it.)

[@InfiniteNaos]

If you’ve saw chapter 25 of this series you’ll know why he has a cough.

[@worndown8280]

@@forgottenrights351 They should have had Palps take him out. Or Skywalker when he did the rest of the CIS leaders. He could have backstabbed him. Anything would have been better than the fan service that was Kenobi shooting him.

[@forgottenrights351]

@@worndown8280 It would have been cool to see Anakin totally lose it on Grievous, releasing all his rage that he had been taught to suppress when fighting. He could throw some stuff with the Force to balance out Grievous' physical strength and speed. I completely agree.

[@NinjaDude85]

@@forgottenrights351 Or he could have used like Vader-esque force crush and just crush his body with his rage 😱😱😱 Grevious was not force sensitive so he could not have avoided it

[@metr0nom314]

No one would survive if he used his other two hands

[@eduardoreyes3892]

The two jedis that died protecting Palpatine can ensure that XD

[@madfire8403]

They were lucky that Grievous didn’t have four lightsabers yet

[@eduardoreyes3892]

Payden Haught actually, if you look closer, you can see that Grievous has at least 5 lightsabers in his waist

[@OptimusPrimeTheFlash]

He was just entertaining.

[@luisdavalos2211]

He didn't have the other two arms at the time

[@greenlime1997]

"Jedi....you are surrounded, your armies decimated, make peace with the force now. For this is your final hour. But know that I, General Grievous, am not completely without mercy. I will grant you a warrior's death. Prepare!"

[@nikos731]

I love how Grievous is basically just posing in the end, standing in 1 foot and holding a 3rd lightsaber with his other foot, while we all know he has 2 extra arms hidden.

[@chaosinc.382]

Gotta flex on the jedi master.

[@Acrillian]

Why did he hold it in his foot ? To make it more interesting?

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@Acrillian As the man himself says: "For practice". That's what dabbing on council members is for him. Just a training session.

[@Acrillian]

@@ForsakenDreamer7 Oh I see and they're considered to be some of the best jedi. I love how after the jedi were rescued by the clones in the gunships Ki Adi was screaming in terror to the gunners to shoot Grievous down while he was running on the ceiling

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@Acrillian Oh, yes. Shaak Ti especially. Quite tough, that one. But as Qui Gon says: "There's always a bigger fish".

[@TheHorreK2]

when did shaggy became a padawan? oO

[@cloversgood_luck9290]

+TheHorreK2 ever since he decided to quit working with the gang and thought this would make more money. jk the reason he is in there I cause the creators wanted to give a nod to the Scooby do series thus putting him here and spelling his name sha'a gi

[@DaxCorsiar]

+airsoft community132 Sha'a Gii. I get it now....

[@NeidalRuekk]

+TheHorreK2 On Scooby's recommendation and on the condition he not say 'Zoiks!'

[@dooplon5083]

+NeidalRuekk Good thing he says Zoinks then! ;)

[@NeidalRuekk]

Atomic Robo Tesla I sit/stand corrected

[@lejenddairy]

Gendy Tartacovsky’s 2003 Clone Wars had the most accurate portrayal of Grievous. A ruthless, efficient Jedi killer who used fear tactics and aggressive attacks to overwhelm Jedi. This show is what made me fall in love with General Grievous as a character. He just doesn’t live up to his reputation in any of the other films. Wish we saw more of him in the 2003s clone wars show.

[@accountforasupertubularguy7166]

I genuinely wondered how 2008 grievous even got the job done, man out here losing to anyone slightly above Padawan level. Then losing to crackhead pirates, snail-amphibian people, and a rather unprepared Ahsoka. There's also that one exploding ship part where plot armor saved his metal ass because for some dumb reason, obi wan decided to warn grievous the ship was going to explode instead of being smart and letting him die. Too much plot armor, not enough evidence to support the whole jedi-killer part of his story.

[@Emilia-gw8so]

Press Factory Reset on your phone, I dare you. He lost to Gungans!!!! Like how??? He’s killed so many Jedi but can’t kill like at most 20 gungans

[@kevinvassago]

He seemed to genocide the night sisters pretty efficiently in the 2008 clone wars

[@accountforasupertubularguy7166]

@@kevinvassago lost to ventress, which is fine I guess since ventress is a pretty dangerous threat, but then needed an entire army to deal with brainless zombies and a few archers? I guess it's somewhat impressive but it's not exactly like a thing you hear and makes you say "Woah, that's pretty neat!"

[@kevinvassago]

@@accountforasupertubularguy7166 yeah, true. I'm watching the clone wars right now and I just saw that episode last night. I was honestly kind of happy Ventress kinda won that fight tho, because after all the bs she's been through, she needed a win. Idk, 2003 clone wars will always be canon to me as well, so maybe that's why Grevious doesn't bother me as much as others, it is what it is I guess.

[@threelittleones4325]

Now THIS is how you introduce a villain.

[@Laserbeak316]

3:44 That Jedi’s name is K’Kruhk. And believe it or not, he actually survived getting cut down by Grievous. His species can apparently enter a comatose state in order to heal themselves. This state also slows down their vitals, and makes them appear to be dead (hence why he was not recovered along with the other surviving Jedi, as they assumed he was dead). K’Kruhk came back later on in the Clone Wars and was even strong enough to survive Order 66. Hell, he was able to survive both the Galactic Civil War and the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion.

[@Stak0]

Laserbeak316 he also became a Grand Master in Luke Skywalkers Jedi Court

[@victormnuel179]

I had no idea about this. Thanks for the information!!!

[@liamdalemon1525]

you know maybe no one died there. the one guy with the bandages is probably alright as other people survived getting slammed against walls in this fight. also shaggy might have just used ultra instinct to dodge Grevious

[@Laserbeak316]

@@liamdalemon1525 perhaps, but that dude with the bandages is definitely dead. You could hear his neck snap when Grievous face-planted him into the ground with his foot.

[@ronki23]

Legends. In Canon he dies here

[@pablojill8744]

The padawan that was killed by Grievous in the beginning of the clip looks like shaggy as a jedi.

[@ASR-Ansori]

He is actually called Sha'agi.

[@pablojill8744]

A S R- Oh really! That is a huge coincidence. LOL!

[@ASR-Ansori]

Sith Fan Nah, it's intentional. Either that or they came up with his name after writing the episode.

[@dark7element]

Rumor has it that they were originally going to have him sound and talk like Shaggy, too - but it made the whole scene and particularly the moment of his death too comical.

[@pablojill8744]

dark7element- His actions and his attitude is a lot like Shaggy's. They are both cowards.

[@stormbringer7773]

I think the scariest thing about General Grievous here is that he's just toying with them. He's only using two arms and two lightsabers in this fight. If he used all 4 arms, he would've wiped them all out

[@yee3e]

Grievous didn't have 4 arms yet in this battle

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@yee3e He did.

[@yee3e]

@@ForsakenDreamer7 I'm talking about the out of universe explanation. In canon he did but because the character wasn't fleshed out enough he didn't have four arms

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@yee3e He still wouldn't be using them here, even concerning the meta. There is content created with 4 arms in mind about his earliest battles, and he still wasn't using them.

[@yee3e]

Fr? Damn aight can you tell the when he first used 4 arms?

[@Legofan8110]

3:52 it's really impressive that K'kruhk survives from that strike and lives longer than all of them even joining Luke's new jedi order

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

What?

[@SOMEGUY7893]

@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon That character somehow survives this encounter(Don't remember how) and they appeared in other old EU stories.

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

@@SOMEGUY7893 Who the fuck look at some random folder and thought "we should really expand on this jedi that, for all intents, is dead"?

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon They didn't expand on a "dead" Jedi. K'Kruhk already had a huge presence in the EU by that time.

[@quinnmaster504]

well yeah, wasn't this version made non-canon?

[@arisaris5857]

"SHOOT HIM DOWN!! SHOOT HIM DOWN!!" Man for the one to say steady and stay calm to end up like this, he actually looked desperate and a little traumatised

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

Everyone is gangsta till Grievous comes in.

[@Laserbeak316]

Aris Aris well he did just witness Grievous take down all his allies with such ease. Pretty sure even a Jedi would be unsettled by such quick and ruthless massacre.

[@mattstorm360]

@@Laserbeak316 plus everyone has always wanted to say that.

[@Criminalupper2200]

I mean, he was right. He recognized that Grevious was a huge threat and this might be their only shot at him by himeself. if they actually were able to kill Grevious here it would have probably shortened the war by years

[@joevenespineli6389]

@@Criminalupper2200 Only lasted two years tho, more or less.

[@Charlie94781]

Shaak Ti deployed a force shield which cushioned Grievous's strike enough to prevent her being cut to ribbons but the cyborg's brute strength still batted her into the wreckage

[@masdestroyer4110]

charles Receski I give her props on that too

[@SSangsen]

charles Receski thx man, i always thought ki adi force pushed her

[@masdestroyer4110]

No he was just getting out of the rubble if ya look again

[@matiasmoya6520]

So that was what happen! Thank you I always get confussed in that scene

[@thomaspearson8078]

Thank you! The one part that didn't make sense solved!

[@StygianWolf]

I can understand why Lucas wanted Grevous to be a sick weakened character who resorted to running away by Episode III; because of what Mace Windu did to him at coruscant. But for the life of me i'll never understand why the clone wars felt the need to nerf him so much. I mean Grievous was defeated so easily in the series, that it made the threat he represented almost null by the time Episode III came around.

[@joshuakim5240]

+Pepe's Kebabs If anything, the only real things nerfed regarding Grievous is his intelligence. Dooku's training lesson makes it clear that Grievous only performs THIS well when the jedi have been exhausted, scared, and beaten. So, this version of Grievous uses those before engaging jedi, getting good results. However, the 2008+ TCW version of Grievous doesn't use these tactics as Dooku trained him to, making him much more prone to losing because he didn't wear down his opponents like he did here. In the 2008+ series, Grievous is too flaunty and bombastic and thus ignores Dooku's advice. In this series, Grievous is much more reserved and kind of shy, making him follow Dooku's advice almost religiously. Both depictions are equally strong and skilled, but this version simply sticks to the methods that he was taught, rather than letting his ego get the better of him like the 2008+ version.

[@Dionizos666]

Reason is simple.this cartoon here while badass is not canon.

[@nihluxler8823]

Pepe's Kebabs He WAS nerfed. Grievous killed only a single Jedi onscreen in the course of the entire series, and even then, it was with such a shitty technique that it made him look like even more of a coward.

[@nihluxler8823]

Sorry, I wasn’t responding to you.

[@fallendeus]

RFS Korolev except none of this is cannon or has anything to do with the movies. Him being crushed literally did not happen as far as the movies goes.

[@RoboticMothBlade]

One thing that really exemplifies why this grevious is such a powerhouse is just how agile he is. Yes, he uses fear tactics and uses his cyborg body is significantly cooler ways than otherwise seen (My guy literally wall runs and uses his feet to both attack and hold things) but I think it wouldn't be nearly as impactful without his ridiculous amounts of agility. His unorthodox fighting style is only achieved due to the high maneuverability of his actions. If only 2008 allowed grevious to fight like this

[@Potato-so6zr]

It’s a bit unfortunate that the producers planned General Grievous to be cunning, but a coward. I didn’t mind it as a kid. But now, I wished they made him stronger towards the end of The Clone Wars, as this would have explained how he gained the strength to defeat Shaak Ti during Revenge of the Sith.

[@bonelesschickennuggets1868]

Not only that but he’s overly agile, nimble and fast despite weighing almost the same as an adult rhino, when he lands in the middle of the Jedi he makes the ground rumble and scatters dust around, my man heavy as hell yet he’s strong enough to be THAT agile and acrobatic, this iteration of Grievous is a freaking *demon*

[@ethanm8756]

This should be the canon Grievous, not the one in ROTS that dies from a simple *uncivilized* blaster.

[@oceanman964]

To be fair, legends explained it pretty fairly. Grievous didn't have the force and was a bad blocker, so it would have hit him regardless. Not only that, but Kaleesh organs were said to be extremely flammable. I don't know why Disney changed the second though.

[@oceanman964]

Though I do agree this Grievous should be canon instead of 3d and ROTs

[@DefecTec]

He had his lungs crushed, he couldn’t fight that well after that

[@raafeyplayz7015]

@@oceanman964 also, his lungs were crushed by Mace Windu prior to 4 days before their duel

[@kek13223]

To be fair, there's no better way to die than by the hands of Obi Wan, especially after he says "hello there"

[@millarslovak7263]

The days when General Grievous casually killed padawans and wounded Jedi masters, knowing that some masters were just left alive for plot, even though he was just as skilled with a lightsaber.

[@donnellebarfield3964]

In the comics he even more badass

[@aayush6202]

If we're seriously gonna bring up plot bullshit you could just as easily say that the Jedi masters should've instantly killed him with the force.

[@tyrannicfool2503]

Aayush Well they did try

[@sandansaiyan5675]

Aayush no.They're not.They were using force but it wasn't for his level.But Mace is the goat jedi.It's not because i like him.No,I'm neutral but he was shown in movies and in novels Anskin even isn't on his level

[@natesal5037]

Александр Данилов Mace Windu is known as one of the most powerful jedi to ever live, the more negative emotions you give out in a fight the stronger he gets

[@Charlie94781]

General Grievous's visage always had that eerie resemblance to a barn owl, except with a metal body and lightsabers

[@SolarDragon007]

charles Receski The 2008 series even nerfed Greivous's design. He looks way less intimidating in that show for some reason. Even ROTS Greivous didn't have that problem.

[@thomaspearson8078]

@@SolarDragon007 He has 4 fingers per each hand (when he has 2) and is 6 feet shorter.

[@GhaniKeSawah]

He reminded me of something else until i realised the only thing similar to what i thought he looked like was the white color and his joke of a waist and arms.

[@baron3904]

You're so right. I always thought he was more reptile-like but at certain angles that mask even looks like the face of a barn owl. The legs and talons too very predatory bird-like

[@jakomioftherose2434]

What they did to him in the CG cartoon was unforgivable.

[@aracuscesar]

infamous chapter 25

[@robbie1482]

Getting his ass handed to him by Gungans

[@vonfaustien3957]

What they did to Dukoo was as bad or worse. Or hell Thrawn portrayal in Ahsoka. At this point it's safe to sat Filoni can't write villians

[@Jestiii]

​@@vonfaustien3957 Dooku and Palparine were great in Clone wars and Feloni wrote them. But yeah since then he hasnt written any spectacular villians

[@thelegendxxx1409]

​@@vonfaustien3957as much problems i have with filoni, it was acually george's idea to make him weak, because in his mind he thought he would be similar too vader.

2:43 Shaggy?? What are you doing here???

[@luizcarlosmalinowski8165]

Martin Beneš his name is actually Sha gi not even kidding

Oh I know, it's such a coincidence :D.

[@albedo5455]

Luiz Carlos Malinowski Sha'a Gi*

[@bensuey2089]

Why do I get the feeling Cartoon Network intentionally put that in their to remind kids to watch whatever short lived Scooby Doo series they were doing at that time?

[@crodad5264]

Actually it's a reference(also because of his cowardly/scared moments before he died)

[@lowkeyarki7091]

His tactic was simple yet genius. With overwhelming speed and strength attack the jedi relentlessly. Using the force takes focus and it's hard to do with 4 lightsabers constantly swinging at you.

[@aurorathomson2051]

But he has no connection to the force

[@lowkeyarki7091]

@@aurorathomson2051 I was talking about the Jedi. They had to focus while Greivous just swings his lightsabers at them

[@sideways_chip_eater6420]

@@aurorathomson2051 imagine trying to do some telekinesis type stuff while a 7 foot robot swings 4 lightsabers at you all at once

[@aurorathomson2051]

@@lowkeyarki7091 oh I got things mixed up sorry carry on

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

He wasn’t even using four here.

[@Machowesker17]

Its sad. Grievous could've easily become the darth vader of the prequel trilogy instead.... you know.

[@toxicitzi357]

I know, right? they had the best fucking design ever and This is what I always envisioned whenever I saw this almost insect like cyborg creature, with lots of arms to wield lightsabers, a relentless assassin. It's like they had all the best design ideas and forgot all the ideas with this guy.. Well, leave it to Genndy Tartakovsky to show you what makes action so sweet and a character genuinely threatening.

[@Machowesker17]

Who's that? The new producer?

[@lsy283]

Actually, Grievous IS a character that foreshadows the rise of Darth Vader.

[@thegoldengamer9315]

Oof the clone wars grievous is very cowardly

[@michelveilleux1275]

Actually, if you look at his legends history, he WAS Anakin Skywalker. The guy lost nearly everything. The love of his life, his will to go on out side of kill every Huk in sight. Got blown up and put into a cybernetic body, used by his Sith master to hunt down and kill Jedi, all in that order. Grievous was pretty much the Prequel's Vader. And when I say that, I mean, I'm sticking to his Legend's lore. It might not be canon, but then again, after the shit that Disney pulled, it nearly destroyed my love for the Star Wars Universe as a whole. So, in conclusion; Fuck Disney. And fuck the people who made him a coward in particular. 😅

[@mysite1012]

No words can express my reaction when this episode released and my little 8 year old self watched it. I had no idea at the time, that I was gonna witness peak TV Star Wars.

[@thetrueyuu8474]

They called him the perfect strategist, unstoppable, and his presence alone brought pressure to them even when he wasn’t visible. The old General Grievous was a monster of proportions. Let alone, a slayer of Jedi who were masters, apprentices, and legends. And then there’s the movies.. sigh.

[@michaelgregor1640]

I have a lot of admiration for George Lucas, but a lot of his writing choices for the prequels were incredibly foolish. It's like he cooked up a rough draft and didn't bother to do any QC.

[@Azathoth343]

Its because mace windu crushed his lungs thats why he has the cough

[@godisdeadandwememedhim4174]

@@Azathoth343 Yes but a fucking cough doesn’t explain how a guy who I capable of killing entire battalions of Jedi loses to only one and also becomes stupider for some reason.

[@Azathoth343]

@@godisdeadandwememedhim4174 yes hes cough and the fact that he had his lungs heart liver and pretty much all of his organic parts were completely destroyed

[@Cheddar_Wizard]

@@godisdeadandwememedhim4174 Grievous is in a weakened state by Episode 3. He also faces Obi Wan, who’s easily one of the greatest Jedi of his time.

[@kristynab.6539]

This might just be one of the best villain introductions ever, what a glorious fight scene as well!

[@thedecafe1]

This might lol 😂

[@Lucius-ww1sg]

Si, muy epica la forma de presentarlo como villano en la serie despiadado,inteligente,ágil y increíble peleador,ya me intereso ver completo esto

[@tlmacmillan1]

Dude one shots shaggy at the start. Never has the universe known such a force

[@user-fx8rk2jm3w]

Oh yeah, the Padawan does kinda look like Shaggy.

[@gracecalis5421]

@@user-fx8rk2jm3w That's not unintentional. His name is literally Sha'a Gi

[@segajet1434]

@@gracecalis5421 yo-

[@ColeEclipse]

@@gracecalis5421 YOOOOOOOO

[@godzillainhellgoji5299]

@@gracecalis5421 ayo what in the heck

[@beuhmoment1040]

I think the coolest thing in Grievous’ fighting style is the way he utilizes his feet, he’s so articulate and acrobatic and it reminds me a lot of Raiden from Metal Gear

[@BigBossStatus1]

I dont remember everything but he comes from a warrior tribe and goes hard. Hear he's got a good team that supports his endeavors and in noway would cripple him

[@LordyT34]

2003: True warrior, confident, intimidating, smart, even honorable 2008-present: Coward Wimp

[@antisimptrooper4635]

Lord Drakkon 7367 he is only a coward cause of mace windu

[@williamhicks1091]

Lord Drakkon 7367 Agreed

[@concept5631]

Nobushi Kensei He met Mace Windu

[@darthdrake3095]

Windu crushed his lungs. Pretty badass that he was still able to go 1 on 1 against Obi wan.

[@jamesracine1130]

Lord Drakkon 7367 recall his training session with dooku, if he lacks surprise fear and intimidation he should retreat , especially after windu collapses his organs

[@Montesama314]

Sha'a Gi, no! What will the Jedi tell his childhood friend Vell Ma now?

[@Banchoking]

Montesama314 Or his talking vornskr Skubi'du?

[@NRobbi42]

Banchoking​​​​ and what about D'aph ni, and Freid Hi?

[@infinitygauntlet101]

Montesama314 its Ve elle Ma I think ..

[@BBmetalhead04]

+Montesama314 Took me a second reading to get this joke. XD

[@MrFjordbak]

+Montesama314 i mostly feel for his wookie friend scooh bedooh

[@Xanmanbro]

2003: *Defeats several Jedi, 3 of which are on the Jedi Council* 2015(?): *Gets defeated by some Gungans. Where did he go so wrong?

[@Samwellgaming514]

they won cuz they used the swarm tactic

[@a.morphous66]

Gungans are armed with EMP weapons, perfect for dealing with someone who’s entire body is made of metal and circuitry. They are also skilled warriors, having maintained a standing army for a long time. And there were a LOT of them. Grievous would have been overpowered eventually, even if he killed three times more than he did in the actual scene. I personally like to believe that he put up much more of a fight, and the Gungans’ feat is simply exaggerated on-screen.

[@ray-0249]

His chest was crushed by mace windu this was before the battle of coursant

[@jadenishatin1533]

@@soundwave590 The Gungan episode was aired before Disney took over.

[@soundwave590]

@@jadenishatin1533 I KNOW I JUST CAN'T ACCEPT THE FACT THAT HE LOST TO GUNGANS!!!!!

[@jamarbracey3778]

Can't begin to express how much this scene changed my life when it came to drawing and writing. It's pretty much perfect. So many elements are at play, every character has a personality and every emotion they wanted you to feel, you felt it....all in like a 3 minute time frame.

[@IxBlind]

Grievous LITERALLY Stomped out that Padiwan... 2:48

[@catsadilla324]

+Ix Blind but he had a green Jedi Master sword...

[@IxBlind]

Green Light Sabers aren't "Jedi Master Swords" ....

[@tendouaikeem9897]

+Ix Blind Yoda wields a green one.....

[@IxBlind]

Green doesnt mean "Master" and it has nothing to do with what level they are on. its a symbol of what type of Jedi he is.

[@IndianaJones84476352]

+Doc Von Doom Color is chosen by what the Jedi specializes in. Green is for those who prefer Force powers, and blue is for those that prefer lightsaber dueling abilities.

[@Maximus4587]

General Grievous making his entrance by killing the Star Wars universe's version of Shaggy Rogers? Awesome *and* terrifying at the same time.

[@gametimex3969]

Maximus4587 Shaggy's last name was Roger's? who would of known

[@TheFawfulfan]

And his first name is Norville.

[@ChristianFrates1997]

He is name is Shaa'Gi.

[@sc_art5408]

irkenus it actually is

[@Erikon14]

this series played so well straight into ROTS- especially for Grievous. Made him into a massive shock factor- cold and calculating enough to be feared by the republic. And then it made sense why he was so 'cowardly' in ROTS- since he was pretty badly wounded by Windu's lucky force crush. But Windu's crush didn't quite seem like a cheap shot even- in all other encounters, he kept the jedi off guard. off focus- it made sense they wouldn't have the thought or ability to ruin him with the force. And then the 2008 The Clone Wars came around- and made the greatest general in the separatist army into some two bit villain that lost every other episode, renowned for his cowardice and cheap shots

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Mace Windu's gimmick is that he can harness some of his darkside potential without succumbing completely - that he has the discipline and self-control to use those powers in small amounts. So when Windu crushes Grievous' torso, it's like a last act of desperation, he dips into that dark potential. Grievous could be picked apart by a darkside user quickly, which is why he's so useful as an asset to Sideous - he's both immensely powerful to everyone else but powerless against a Sith. Not a threat. Jedi by their very nature can't do the easy thing of using their force power to just snuff out the life of someone untouched by the force - except for Windu. The interaction has so much depth, and both characters had so much potential that was largely wasted. Man, you ever finish typing something out and just think "I'm such a fucking nerd." lol

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

@@fuzzydunlop7928 Yes, but that kind of nerd is fucking awesome! Loved your comment.

[@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere]

But the real reason he was nerfed is because "retcons" George Lucas thought that grievous was a "rip off" of Darth Vader so he completely ruined the character and his backstory

[@yurilouback6331]

I think recent fiction lacks villains like that. Who make u go like ''damn, what a cool bad guy''. Like, villains who are interesting and threatening, but not in a deus ex machina fashion.

[@Nephalem2002]

I like to believe Mace did his research since there was a timeskip in Tratovosky’s series.

[@elliottbrown4195]

Our first introduction to seeing General Grievous. Still sends chills down my spine.

[@Supahpowahnerd890]

Does anyone else think that this portrayal of Grievous is significantly more interesting? Instead of making Grievous into a weak coward, here he was shown to be a threat, he faced multiple Jedi at a time and proved very effective. He was shown to be the powerful villain he could have been.

[@cyanwarrior7712]

Agreed. Grievous is really something in this cartoon. Makes me wonder what the writers were thinking making Grievous weak and run like a coward a thousand times in TCW. Just imagine how better it would have been for Grievous to keep these kinds of attributes in the TCW and ROTS.

[@Laserbeak316]

You do know the reason behind Greivous' hindrance after this series is due to Mace Windu crushing his chest (damaging his internal organs), right? (It's also the reason why he coughs so much, since his lungs were damaged as well)

[@bbenjoe]

Singulis Scriptorem Agreed, I watched 1-2 seasons of the animated Clone Wars series, he was totally a coward there.

[@nicolasriveros943]

Singulis Scriptorem i remember when i watch this for the first time, i thought "this is like the new Darth Vader!" i mean, he almost destroy a complte group of Jedis, and without any use of the force... when i saw Episode 3 i was reeeeally dissapointed on how easyly was defeated

[@MrFantocan]

Cyan Warrior This cartoon explains why Grievous was weaker in the movie, cuse when he kidnaped Palpatine Windu crushed his chestplate, and inside were his biological organs, that is why he has the breathing noise, and also why he was much weaker when facing Obiwan. But he is crappy in the 3D cartoon for no reason.

[@stijnvandevyver7958]

Grievous is always going to be one of my favorites. Despite his movie appearance.

[@AstroManX100]

+Von Steiner Same here.

[@FeistyWaffle]

So he showed up before Revenge of the Sith?

[@eddieguererro46]

+Von Steiner His Back story was Oscar worthy back then :/

[@santaria19]

+TheBuragi This is no longer canon.

[@ArynosValinir]

+TheBuragi It was actually one after a few jedi had already fallen to him. As why the Jedi are so afraid of him and know what he could do, and Dooku comments on one of the sabers he takes from this fight later on in this series.

[@michaelstar7556]

Ki Adi: He is coming Padawan: Yikes!!! Like it's General Grievous we're doomed Ki Adi:Would you fight him for a Scooby snack? (seriously I can't be the only one)

[@JustCallMeHeavy]

I'm laughing now.

[@tranqle73]

Michael Star755 Padawan: *Eats snack and starts screaming and running outside* Ki-Adi: WAIT NOT YE- Padawan: *Gets crushed* Ki-Adi: Gah, dang it.

[@kaiserwilhelmii6440]

Lol, pretty sure his actually name was Sha'gi or something like that

[@cooperproductions3731]

Ki adi: damn it... Then, what about droid attack on the... *gets interrupted*

[@hueyskitchen906]

Zoinks*

[@f.b.l.9813]

I like how the Jedi are trying to hide in the dark while holding giant glow sticks! 🤣🤣🤣

[@daboi6509]

I think they were heading to the center of the construct so that they could make defensive adjustments

[@TheNewBerser]

To this day this chapter I just cant over of how fucking insane he fights...

[@liaminator4950]

HE USES HIS FEET AS EXTRA HANDS.

[@Lvl1.Sentry]

Liaminator. Useing his feet was a bit showing off.

[@Lvl1.Sentry]

I know but still he was showing off a bit by doing that

[@ouchiegiverjr]

Female Flowey The Flower™ it's a form of intimidation.

[@alexandsimba]

Ms. Marble 'Inkie' PieTM He does that the overwhelm his opponent into submission. General Grievous uses speed and fear to his advantage since he can't use the force to fight Jedi.

[@AsianNIGMA]

Such a badass scene, "Back up NOW! (Gunship smashes through wall immediately)"

[@benhunneyball5158]

SHOOT HIM DOWN! SHOOT HIM DOWN!!!

[@omegasynth2775]

"Yo, you called?"

[@TaoPhysiques]

I never watched much of this show, but I always seem to enjoy it every time I watched it. I guess because Clone Wars always gave off a "Samurai Jack" vibe.

[@brunorasetti5875]

***** lol me too

[@TheDragonoftheWest]

***** That's because Samurai Jack and this show are by the same guy, Genndy Tartakovsky. :) I can only recommend watching the full "Clone Wars" show, it's only about 2 hours total and can be found on KZbin. IMO it's much better than the newer CGI "The Clone Wars" show.

[@eliburry-schnepp6012]

+TheDragonoftheWest I like both shows, but I much prefer this version of Grievous

[@jawafreak230]

+Eli Burry-Schnepp yes, I feel the same

[@GarioTheRock]

And here you are, back to the past, like Samurai Jack.

[@illiniguy34]

“I realized as soon as I wrote into The Clone Wars that he was way too powerful to leave in the franchise, so I had to kill him off immediately. That was the hardest decision I ever made” -George Lucas

[@prototypemaster1]

Everytime I look at this fight, I'm sad this isn't canon.

[@Grayman2003]

SegaShooterGames but it is

[@isaiahhale6401]

Grayman 2003 it's not the 2008 clone wars is

[@0rurin]

What I find sadder is how George can screw any character up, no matter how good a concept or how good a job others do with it.

[@isaiahhale6401]

Sgt.Grinner not all the time but mace crush grevious lungs so that what made him weak

[@abloodraven3856]

As of Rogue One: Catalyst, this fight actually *is* canon. Hypori appears in the book, and this ambush was mentioned as having taken place. The book also references Darth Plagueis a bit as well, like Tarkin did. Thanks, James Luceno!

[@hassantv100]

It was at this moment(2:46) Sha'a Gi knew...he fucked up.

[@triheadwar1996]

+DW_Nox His best friend, Scubi Du will mourn him.

[@gunswordfist]

+Ellijah De Leon I love you guys

[@piercetimko1947]

+Ellijah De Leon He is survived by his comrades Vel Mah, Fre ddi, and Daph ne

[@emperorsithisilith]

Zoinks scoob.

[@baronofbahlingen9662]

+Pierce Timko don't forget sco'bi

[@legokid1902]

This is just 7 minutes of grievous being a badass and killing Jedi.

[@zelkuta]

The Kill at 4:00 might be the most brutal kill in any star wars media. Imagine Disney giving that the green these days.

[@emperorkiron3470]

He did the same thing in Clone Wars 2003, albeit EVEN MORE BRUTAL

[@lach3763]

I think Acolyte topped that

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@zelkuta The most brutal kills of General Grievous stayed off screen. He had already been an active combatant by the time the batlle of Geonosis happened. His mission was to stay out of sight, hidden in the catacombs, and kill any Jedi Knight or clone commando who would get too close to the Separatist Council. Since he had no lightsabers yet, he had to do it with his bare hands. It is stated that the Republic agents have later found piles of corpses strewn about, looking as if they had been mauled to death by a pack of wild animals or torn apart by a Geonosian sonic blaster.

[@frogturtle]

the best version of grievous hands down. Genndy did my favorite Star Wars villain justice. Wouldn’t expect anything less from a master animator

[@hellowhat890]

2:47 Want to see a magic trick? I'm going to make this Padawan... disappear! TADAH!!!!

[@thorshammer7883]

hellowhat890 Joker reference.

[@joshuabonesteel2303]

And hes...gone.

[@JRGProjects]

This suit was not cheap....you aught to know because Palpatine bought it.

[@jacksoncurrin9618]

(Talks to 3D Grievous comparing him to 2d Grievous) Where do we begin? These clones and jedi wouldn't dare cross you. I know why you're afraid to stand your ground. General Kenobi. You see Obi-wan has shown Dooku your true colors unfortunately

[@wandowander9360]

@@jacksoncurrin9618 and Disney, its just the beginning and as for their star wars 9.

[@SorchaSublime]

So basically a necron lord. Awesome.

[@ShadowGhost0117]

Glitch_FACE now that is a matchup I would like to see.

[@SorchaSublime]

tbh whenever people talk about Warhammer vs Star wars they always forget one fact. There are enough canon OP characters in star wars history to at least take luna, and from there they could easily petition the chaos gods or something.

[@ShadowGhost0117]

Glitch_FACE exactly, this is why Star Wars is the main universe that could contend with 40k. After which Halo would probably be the next best contender.

[@SorchaSublime]

slight oddball but doctor who would probably be a fair fight if you just dropped both contenders of the time war, in their mid time war state, onto different ends of the galaxy (and removed time travel for obvious reasons)

[@ShadowGhost0117]

Glitch_FACE of course once you put characters like Magnus the Red, Konrad Curze, and Sanguinius into the situation, then that is where even the most powerful sith and Jedi would struggle.

[@brandonhea4394]

Grevious is just amazing. He was my favorite Star Wars character for a while.

[@Dylan-re3ru]

I remember how terrifying this was as a kid. Watching Grevious mow through the Jedi shocked 5 year old me. Also the Arc Troopers are the real MVP's

[@guyver441]

Without the force to defend, guns do work.

[@smolgobbo3826]

@@guyver441Given how the jedi were wiped out during order 66, guns work even with the force as long as you’ve got enough of them

[@guyver441]

@@smolgobbo3826 I mean yeah, the lasgun is the most effective weapon in 40K too...when using thousands of them at once.

[@hecc7906]

Mace Windu nerfed this man so hard he completely changed his personality

[@menacetosociety6509]

Bro made him russian

[@TerminallyChill85]

I love bad writing

[@stefdiazdiaz7067]

severe emotional/mental trauma can do that

[@jgrAnimations23]

Maybe that's why He underestimated jedis but after getting crushed by mace he got ptsd

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@stefdiazdiaz7067more like bad writing

[@dantederi5062]

Even though there are no gore, those deaths are still brutal. Why cartoons can't be like this anymore?

[@MC_Guy]

ikr

[@DakotaofRaptors]

We got LGBT couples tho

[@Mo_Box]

@@DakotaofRaptors that's lame we need action

[@theunexplained2855]

Gennady tarvosky was the producer of this show. He has always been heavy on action, that’s why he doesn’t get the recognition he deserves.

[@Mo_Box]

@@theunexplained2855 Well if your a child watching a TV show you wouldn't want long diologues would you? My point is alot of cartoons are now more commentary then anything

[@mjkhan9664]

Have to come back to this moment from time to time, even 20+ years later. Tartakovsky really gave us the absolute best depiction of how terrifying and menacing Grievous was meant to be. Those multiple robotic arms and erratic movement perfectly being too much for Seasoned Jedi masters to handle. Like this '03 show had Mace Windu Singlehandedly take out an entire army of Klankers just to follow up with several jedi murdered by Grievous.