2023 Nissan Z vs Nissan 370Z NISMO // DRAG RACE & LAP TIMES

The new Nissan Z ($61,398 in Canada as specced, $52,310 in the US) has an important challenger to overcome - the best and brightest of its previous generation: the Nissan 370Z NISMO ($48,998 in Canada in 2020, $45,790 in the US). The new Z now has two turbos and more power than the outgoing 370Z NISMO, but it weighs slightly more as a result. Thomas has hopped in the NISMO and James is piloting the new Z. Will the naturally aspirated 370Z be able to keep up with the new twin-turbo powerplant? Things don’t always go as expected in a drag race! We hope you enjoy the episode. Thanks for watching! SUBSCRIBE!
Huge thank you @tom.tserbis_ for lending us his NISMO!
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[@newbiedebater]

This was LITERALLY a video someone asked for a few weeks ago - and at that point you had already shot this. Great job Thomas and James and squad!

[@HotTakeHQ]

I love this ch 😊

[@anandpushkar7510]

They are great

[@Dizastermaster.]

Cause it's an obvious video to make, glad they capitalized on it

[@PeterOekvist]

Literally, actually, figuratively and positively a video...

[@YXO77]

А 😅😅

[@hugovallarta]

I love how Thomas always believes in his heart and his mind that he can make a slower car faster with his driving and beat any car no matter how much more horsepower and torque is in the way 😂 Love it!

[@persiashahdi5215]

Probably because he knows there's more than horsepower and torque to setting good lap times?

[@hugovallarta]

@@persiashahdi5215 of course. But in a straight line? All things equal? Nah

[@adamski9952]

@@hugovallarta All things equal?

[@hugovallarta]

@@adamski9952 competent driver, same surface, decent wheels, similar weight, etc

[@persiashahdi5215]

@@hugovallarta oh my mistake I thought you were referring to the lap times

[@whtdrgn33]

I LOVE the laps stacked on top of each other! That was such an awesome way to compare their laps from our perspective! Please do that more in comparison videos! And thanks for all yall do!

[@michaelanderson7715]

They're not.

[@anydaynow01]

Totally agree, I wish the time spent was reverse, 90% track battles, and 10% of the time spent on a "by the way here is a boring series of drag races for those who might be interested" segment.

[@aguy4282]

@@anydaynow01 the drag races aren't that boring

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@aguy4282 nope.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@anydaynow01 yep. 99 percent laptime battles for me actually

[@AdreanStyles09]

The 370z is such a good looking vehicle. That exterior design held up really well.

[@manveerghuman5276]

Well it's the Nismo that is timeless. Those Rays wheels and blacked out headlights and LED strip along with bodykit.

[@stationd5]

@Driving a Bimmer 350z Nismo def gonna be some change in the future. Esp a nicely modded low mile one

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@manveerghuman5276 yep. The NISMO upgrade done its job to make this car everlast.

[@tornatic1983]

I can say the same for the its cousin's the G35 and G37. People still ask to buy my '05 G35 coupe

[@Zemzam]

@Driving a Bimmer I am not sure I have ever seen an unmodded one. lol. But I agree with you.

[@mahcheeksajiglin6540]

People sleep on the 3.7. This shows you how good the 370z was when it was released.

[@shad3128]

def one of their best cars, aged very well and its a robust car to own long term and wont kill your wallet

[@roundearthshill248]

@@shad3128 I got an 09 370 6mt that I bought used in late 2017 with 70k miles. It's 115k miles now. Been an absolute peach of a car. No issues whatsoever. I've done full intake system including a ported intake plenum (all Z1), catback exhaust from AAM, still on stock headers and cats, Z1 coil packs, Z1 drilled/slotted rotors, Z1 clutch and HD slave cylinder, replaced the clutch master while we did that. Tuned with Ecutek car made 332whp at Z1 near Atlanta GA. Which is exactly what Nissan quotes at the crank. Pretty damn good for basic mods and over 100k miles! Also some got some cosmetic stuff including the Morimoto headlights, tails and side indicators. Those headlights are expensive, but they look incredible. Might do headers but I dunno...I like how it sounds now and it's not obnoxious as it is. But I know I'm leaving some HP on the table with stock headers and cats. I've heard the Motodyne ART test pipes don't sound too obnoxious and make good power gains so I've considered those. Also considering coilovers and possibly wheels but I LOVE the forged Rays that came on it (sport model). Also considered adding Nismo bumpers but that just seems like a huge pain in the ass, with having them painted and all...

[@shad3128]

@@roundearthshill248 you wont notice the power gained from headers unless you constantly drive it at redline but the test pipes will give you some midrange and top end. Without picking up bottom end, the money for the headers install and tune wont pay off for itself IMO. Nissan designed good flowing headers on the VQ but resonated test pipes will def help you out with the catback. 330-350whp in those is about the sweet spot for bolt ons and most likely already gave you a VERY fun car! Back when i had my g37 coupe i had the ported z1 manifold, intakes, and test pipes and a catback. Car never gave me an issue and was super fun to have. Miss it some times!!

[@JDilla65]

Great car but just outdated styling it had the same look as the 2010 version which is very un attractive to buyers

[@Wastednow]

@@roundearthshill248 definitely grab those art pipes they’re sole good quality pieces! If it’s too loud with your set up add a vibrant resonator

[@Veyronp87]

Interesting video. I agree the Nismo version of the 400 should hopefully fix the track issues

[@chrissears5482]

It just needs better tires for the track imo. I bet if you put some Michelin pilot sport cup 2s on there it would be much better

[@DonisGP]

@@chrissears5482 yea it would fix a lot of the issues with better grip

[@Cyborg_Auto]

Hardly any owners will track these, let's be real. It's definitely more of a Gt than a sports car ,like they said..

[@SigArms40Cal229]

People will track these by putting aftermarkets parts in them. I have a gut feeling it would be in Gridlife. Edit for wade's comment: The Z has always been a Gran Touring(GT)/Sports car. Same as the GTR too, it's a GT/Sports car as well.

[@jasonwang3348]

@@chrissears5482 there's too much body roll, more grip the cars gonna flip

[@dannymartial7997]

The 370z still looks super good. I love the wide hips of the 350 and 370

[@josebrown5961]

I actually prefer the 370…I just haven’t fallen for the nose yet on the new one. Now if you could give me that turbo motor from the Z, and maybe the dash…ahh f*ck it, I’ll get used to the nose.

[@veialyyad4816]

@@TonyCrispruby yea even the first gen 300zx isn't ugly

[@andycalifornia426]

@@veialyyad4816 Kid, first gen was 240 from 1969 or so.

[@Terminat0r91]

The 370Z is just naturally sexy

[@cyberspectre8675]

@@veialyyad4816 Oh yes it is

[@TheNyster]

The sound of that VQ will never get old

[@hatch450sx3]

Sounds like an angry trumpet was never a fan.

[@fry.master]

@@hatch450sx3 pissed off elephant playing a trumpet when you put test pipes… sell that junk

[@R8andGT3Fan]

Well said, Thenyster! I'm glad some people doesn't stick to the VQ meme trend...it sounds nice and you can make it sound even better with the right exhaust setup.

[@fry.master]

@@R8andGT3Fan maybe if you buy one for under 2 grand to daily drive, sure. Imagine buying one as a “performance” car…

[@NateandSelena]

@@fry.master well shit bro it’s a working car it’s going to be more then 2 grand 🤣🤣

[@darksideemt]

Even though I'm primarily a muscle car guy I've always wanted a 370z (out going gen). I totally understand all the negatives they come with (tech mainly) but still love the look and the sound of the VQ when it has a good exhaust. I do like the new one but just think it is definitely over priced especially compared to the competition it has.

[@eli9051]

same i want a 370z in 4 years if they dont go up in price I love the sound even though people say it sounds like a trumpet and they're light,fast, and cheap

[@chrissears5482]

Overpriced? It's primary competition is the Supra and its over 10k cheaper for the base model

[@eli9051]

@@chrissears5482 facts they aren’t overpriced big reason why 350\370’z popular is bc they cheap

[@matrinezkevin11492]

@@chrissears5482 it's the same price as an SS 1LE Camaro and that completely curbstomps the Z in performance and versatility. The Supra is more expensive but also quite a bit quicker than the Z as well.

[@slowspecv69]

Buy a 370z nismo, it’ll be the one to hold most of its value and the shweetest one obviously,

[@Blue_Ghost-X]

A TWIN turbo v6 barely beats a NA 3.7. Something is wrong here.

[@screviews]

Hopefully this will lead viewers to question the integrity and credibility of KZbin car "reviewers" who attended the Nissan Z press event and gushed non-stop about how great the car was. Surprisingly it's the same reviewers who criticised the 370 Nismo for being "outdated" yet as we see here it can match the new version around a track.

[@MizzouRah78]

Yes, precisely my thoughts. What a disparity. I can't wait for more Supra vs Z comparisons.

[@d1sturb3d119]

Once you're an adult, only watch reviewers to get a feel for the car's features. Beyond that, drive and judge for yourself. Many out there say nice things to get invited back. Journalistic integrity isn't real in this genre of frivolous car purchases. They certainly know which brands are likely to give them the finger which is why nice things are said about Ferrari's all day long, while their build quality and reliability suffers. Much can be said about many luxury marques out there that are unreliable trash. And the sad fact is, folks have stated this car looks great, which objectively it does have the right stuff. With regard to its drivetrain, and actual build you are getting exactly what you pay for with all the rough edges and little ability to push for more power. The Supra for all the critique it got, is a much more expensive machine being sold for a much cheaper price given its joint development. Putting both on a lift really illustrates that difference. And of course throwing just a tune at the car literally catapults its power output to new levels. Hagerty did a run with the two kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn-9ZGOZgbCApNE Savagegeese did a nice comparison of underbody build, and ultimately a track comparison. You can definitely see how the Supra is a better car overall compared to the Z. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZTCmoycaM1ogJI I still think the Z is awesome and needs to exist rough edges or not. But it does need some tuning love to really get it to shine. Definitely better suspension and tires if someone wants to push it on track.

[@Jaredscott89]

It can't match the new version though? Its clearly slower while being a top spec vs a non-nismo...

[@LifebyDesign]

@@Jaredscott89 Yeah but it's damn close. The fact is the Z car is using an ancient chassis, open deck head, and a jatco 9speed. Manual won't save the Z. Manual just allows an excuse to why it utterly sucks for 50k. I actually didn't know who was driving the newer car from the interior shots.

[@Linkedchief]

Damn, you're telling me that the creme de la creme of stock 370s with 10+ years of support is only slightly slower than a performance Z which hasn't even released yet? Shocker I wonder how much slower the Sport 370z would be compared to a Performance Z

[@Wonderlaust]

3:29 drag race 4:51 roll race 8:38 lap times

[@CBMedia404]

I had a 2019 NISMO Z with Motion Control double adjustables and a bunch of other suspension/brake/tires/bolt on upgrades and I actually really liked the car a lot. It felt very old school but in a good way.

[@jacobrev6567]

Hi cb media 😀👋

[@CBMedia404]

@@jacobrev6567 hello 👋🏻

[@johndc2998]

Got rid of it? :/

[@plap.]

Hey Chad. Cream phai would have taken both of these

[@CBMedia404]

@@johndc2998 sold it when I moved to Thailand, I now have a V8 E30 here 👍🏻

[@JosephFrietze]

Yep, thanks for helping me make my decision to keep looking for a good used 370Z instead of waiting for a new Z to be affordable.

[@Zero-vi2vh]

Much better option especially if you want to go faster than a vr30 the vq37vhr is a better engine especially with just a full exhaust and intakes with a e85 tune or just a simple tune alone will get you riding side by side scatpacks

[@envyxlust3033]

@@Zero-vi2vh and the VR30 is a direct bolt in to the 370z chassis. So if you wanted to, you could swap a VR30 in w some mods for less than 10k and be faster than the new Z. Or just tune the VQ and be faster that way🫱🏼‍🫲🏻

[@djayyglo]

@@Zero-vi2vhnismo with CAI & exhaust setup & tune and i walkd scats

[@Zero-vi2vh]

@@djayyglo im not tuned yet im waiting for 1300cc injectors and another fuel pump so i can run e85 on the topguns supercharger kit

[@djayyglo]

@@Zero-vi2vh go crazy. I was walking scats with that setup and now i’m running a GT525R twin turbo kit & people don’t even try me anymore I got a friend with a stock hellcat and to this day he won’t race me because he’d rather not find out😂 power to weight ratio is crazy i’ll give you a year you’ll be walking shit too

[@ernielopez210]

Dam. The old one legitimately looks better.

[@jj481012]

Good waking up to a nice cup of Joe, James, and Thomas in the morning!

[@mitch1668]

Awesome you guys did this. I was always curious to know the outcome of this race being that the new Z is a bit heavier.

[@Ws6Ms]

It's 80lbs ?

[@mitch1668]

@@Ws6Ms close to 200

[@jessicalacasse6205]

if the 370z had the same hp that gtr got with same engine it would be better than that 400

[@Al-qn3sj]

@@jessicalacasse6205 370 does not have the same engine as GTR

[@lupreztryson]

@@Al-qn3sj he said “if”

[@luxuryhub1323]

Extremely well-crafted video. Editing and shooting was top notch!

[@Swoosh_TV]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4q1l52hbtRmftk 😭😭 LMAOO

[@plaza862]

Considering it’s a nismo against a “performance” in other words a slightly nicer to drive base with an appearance package I’d say the new nismo is gonna be pretty dope

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[@godzilla7391]

Love you guys videos. Best KZbin car enthusiasts channel! I prefer the look of the 370z Nismo over the 400z.

[@leewarner9357]

YEP, I thought this would happen and it did. I told my friends that the Nismo won't be hardly behind the new performance Z. As an owner of a 2020 Pearl Nismo manual, I'll never part with her. Long live the last Analog N/A Z. Best quarter mile run at the local track was a 12.97 stock. I'm happy with her

[@Mattouge]

Now the Nismo Z has come out and yeah, it's definitely not the Z we were hoping for lol

[@jdmfamily7182]

Yeah I don't think I would spend 50k on that z, I was really specting a new engine but they decided to put a q50 engine on it, lol bmw 335i has the same set up as well

[@Euro.throttle]

I don’t how more to express the amazingness of this channel. Throttle House is just the best car channel to exist. These guys need to be more famous.

[@boblarry7879]

Can not wait until I come across that first unsuspecting 400 in my 370.

[@215.civicsi7]

I’m criminally early…

[@khaliphilemoyo607]

i know...crazy

[@georget1718]

Indeed we are 😌

[@turkialbalushi6827]

Same

[@mrstrawcloud]

Yeah….

[@Flackoxmargiela]

We should all be arrested

[@allensaunders449]

I like your indepth review of cars over drag races, but this is still enjoyable

[@cmack5384]

Always great stuff. Hands down the best car channel anywhere.

[@NSteigs]

Check out hagerty too

[@alinanisiame]

Ever heard of carwow

[@cmack5384]

Obviously I know there are some great car channels on KZbin. Carwow is a fantastic one. Just my humble opinion on this channel.

[@paulwagner3063]

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[@MattyH1992]

This was the strangest use of two accounts and bot provided likes I've ever seen on KZbin.

[@ErectkyleDysfunction]

1:03 - 1:07 was an interesting moment to realize the A pillars, and the overall orientation of the interior in both cars are almost identical.

[@Drive_Together]

It’s still built on the same chassis

[@johnmay6432]

Built on the same z34 chassis. These a whole list of similarities!

[@ErectkyleDysfunction]

Welp...I just learned something new lol. Thanks yall.

[@ndk2k4]

Would be interesting to test the new Z against the Q60RS

[@Nestle245]

This needs to happen

[@gameonyolo1]

For real

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

why? the Q60 is about 400lbs heavier and has a softer suspension. what exactly do you think is going to happen?

[@ReasoningPie]

@@OxBlitzkriegxO Agreed, the Q60 Red Sport is an absolute boat at ~4000 lbs. I assume the tune is identical to the Z as well with a matching 400hp 350tq.

[@gameonyolo1]

@@OxBlitzkriegxO just to see how the big difference is.

[@voodoodiecast]

Finally the 400Z wins a race!

[@ibnumubarok9125]

Hahaha you right

[@janestreetentertainment9552]

Over prices junk

[@marcz9482]

Old z was nothing special, V6 NA trash

[@theoyansen8267]

Renault 400Z should be racing Corollas to win

[@negativeindustrial]

I’m glad they made it but as long as they insist on keeping a V6 in these things, they’re useless to me. Wake me up if they ever decide to sell one with a proper inline 6 like a Z was meant to have.

[@livelongandtroll9108]

I like my Throttle House like I like my coffee... every day, sometimes multiple times a day.* *Yes, I watch old episodes when there are no new ones and I drink too much coffee, don't @ me. ✌

[@Josh-cw8by]

I was going to say I like them both early in the morning 😁. Your response works too

[@livelongandtroll9108]

@@Josh-cw8by Yours works for me too. 😁

[@georgegiovani9183]

I love my 2016 Nismo, absolute blast of a car

[@pinchevictor6945]

Love mine also. I have a 2019 pearl white

[@MrMitchell699]

I've got a 2018 Nismo 370z and couldn't be happier. Price of the new Z is not worth it imo.

[@TZ281]

Man you guys are really getting a lot of seat time in on the new Z.

[@overv434]

They need the 9 speed 😢

[@Wasssup3232]

@@overv434 the 9 speed has a stop sale. Same transmission from the 2022 Frontier. Solenoid isn’t engaging and the car can come out of park

[@Stevie4171]

@@Wasssup3232 no it’s not. It’s a Mercedes’ built transmission

[@Wasssup3232]

@@Stevie4171 it's the same ZF that is in the Frontier Source: Nissan employee

[@Stevie4171]

@@Wasssup3232 no they are not exactly the same.

[@EllenT1018-r8b]

I’m not impressed with the new Z. I’ll keep my 2019 Nismo

[@andrewespinoza7869]

I know right it's not much faster and a few upgrades on your nismo . Like exhaust and headers and a tune and I'm sure it will beat the new Z.

[@ralphsmallblock4367]

Flat foot shifting at 7500 RPM bye-bye New Z Nismo😎

[@pinchevictor6945]

I have a 2019 nismo also🤙🏼

[@ralphsmallblock4367]

@@pinchevictor6945 my favourite Z Nismo v2👍

[@aaron54600]

Let's go! Love your content guys!

[@imjcarp]

Idk why I like the 370z’s so much. I think just looks so much more cooler and futuristic than the basic cars im used to seeing like Camaros mustangs etc

[@glenshort6567]

In 2022 drag race could mean multiple things. Thank god this video is about cars.

[@justaguy6100]

I worked at a Nissan dealership that had a 370 Nismo, and for the driving experience I loved it. I CERTAINLY would hope Nissan tunes up a Nismo version of the new Z

[@geoffcarsten1031]

Why? Will you buy one?

[@justaguy6100]

@@geoffcarsten1031 if I could afford it, and felt they’d worked out the handling issues.

[@IMaDonato]

I really love the old vs new videos! You guys should definitely do more of them!

[@erfanjabari5946]

while I like the look of the new Z, there's something about the 370 that just keeps me staring...

[@alfie3836]

Thx for posting the track lap time comparison part too!

[@eddiegarcia1560]

I will be purchasing another Nismo very soon. I loved my 2015 base model and 2017 Nismo. I'll be grabbing a 2019 Nismo this time around and will keep her as long as I can.

[@pinchevictor6945]

I have a 2019 nismo in California. Why do you want a newer one compared to a 2017 nismo?

[@eddiegarcia1560]

@@pinchevictor6945 to get the most up to date model. Not that it's a huge difference. Just would rather have the newest year. Also I've seen 2015s for the same price as 2019+.

[@evanjones5522]

love the content, you definitely need to get your hands on the new corvet when it comes out

[@devnull128]

I’m not a Z guy (unless it’s a Z06), but I’d take the old one over the new one all day long.

[@Joe_Friday]

Would you take a zr1?

[@StrongerThanEver84]

100% and its not even close. New Z is garbage

[@devnull128]

@@Joe_Friday - yes, but that one is out of the budget range lol…. I also own a ZL1 1LE, but didn’t count it either

[@Joe_Friday]

@@devnull128 I came close to trading my Type R in for a new black ZL1 1LE the first year they came out. It was strange. It sat out at my local dealership for months at msrp. I found it odd because I thought they were getting bought up before hitting the lot. I love that car. It would have been a foolish financial decision had I bought it.

[@Acc0rd79]

I miss my old 370z as it was a beautiful car, I fell in love the moment they launched it. The new Z.... not so much. I just don't look at the new Z and go DANG I need that in my life, just not the same anymore. Too many of the same old components inside the Z vs the older 370z.

[@TheClaybar]

The 3.7’s top end is nutty

[@David-bi6lt]

This is the video 📸 we all needed 🙂

[@topvideos6166]

I think they should throw the vr38 on that new body to have a chance to compete with other cars or build a new inline engine

[@7spdZ]

I agree maybe a nismo version could include a vr38

[@hatch450sx3]

If you watch other videos it does compete. It only loses BECUASE launch traction sucks. Put better tires on the car it moves pretty nice.

[@IScoreUnderPressure4]

A vr38 would be OP though, especially for the price

[@topvideos6166]

@@hatch450sx3 I don’t think it’s because the traction as they tested on the roll race & it’s still losing

[@carlos25021977]

That black 370Z looks pretty good IMO 👍

[@fuzzblightyear145]

got 2018 GT in black. Yeah, just looks the sexiest in car park

[@DizzyMan24]

I'd still take a 370Z Nismo over a new Z. And still, not a big enough gap for added 50HP and 2 turbos.

[@artemiscool67]

How much bigger a gap would you think only 50hp would add? That's about what it should've been. I'd prob still take 370z Nismo also, at least until the newer Z Nismo comes out.

[@cristianchavira8591]

Thats a big gap for 50hp. They havent even touched the potential of the new Z. Easily 600whp with bolt ons. 5k into the old Z youre at maybe 375-400whp. 5k into the new Z and its at 550+whp.

[@b58forever]

thats because it a manual get the automatic 400z and will put a few 18 wheelers on that 370z

[@user-dr4iu8mg5u]

@@cristianchavira8591 For a car that costs over 60k I'd expected to be quicker and not be adding "5k" off my pocket, we're talking about Toyota supras, BMW M's, and ZL1 price ranges!

[@cristianchavira8591]

@@user-dr4iu8mg5u it starts at 40k for a TT V6. Cheaper than the 4 cylinder supra. And far cheaper than a BMW M or ZL1. So what is your point?

[@roderickturner9806]

I'm glad I went ahead and purchased my 2017 370Z Nismo 6-speed manual in June. Only had 18,000 miles and is pristine condition.

[@bjornironsides6474]

I got my 2018 nismo last October. What a car, man. You don’t see many around and everyone Gawks at it.

[@roderickturner9806]

@@bjornironsides6474 Same here. I'm constantly getting compliments and comments like it's rare to see a Nismo looking this good and not being mod to death.

[@TP-ie3hj]

Just glad to see someone is making cars for people who like to drive. So tired of watching the drag race where the Cameraman is the only one involved in the actual race!

[@byronstoddard1835]

Great video, gimme what looks and handles better. Close enough in performance that I wouldn’t spend 25000 more

[@ramial-hanbali7545]

Toyota supra

[@Linkedchief]

If only the Nismo 370 was 25000 cheaper lol

[@mike1567]

The design (the lines, the hip, the front, the back, the overall design) of the 350/370Z is wayyyyy better looking the the new Z imo.

[@mattguerra82]

agree. Give me a 370 nismo anytime over the new Z

[@NotAdamSnider]

Have to agree. I love that they made a new Z, but the looks of the 370z are unmatched by any sports car under 100k dollars.

[@triffin]

The front of the 350/370 is so stubby. Looks like a bar of soap at that angle. Plus They don’t have any characteristics of any of the previous z cars

[@xDrezi]

@@NotAdamSnider ok

[@swiftluss4272]

Imo the 400z looks better than both 350/370z in their base forms. I never liked the 370z. I always felt they were too stubby from the side and the front was decent. I do like the width of the rear but that's about it. The nismo was nice but i didnt like how the nismo wasnt more of a pure drivers car. It was more like a trophy. The 350z base was imo ugly. I havent grown to like them at all. I do love the 350z nismo though. They were able to make the car look so much more aggressive especially with the aero upgrade and seam welded chasis.

[@RandenMontalvo]

The new Z is a 370z with a new body and an existing well known decent engine. Expectations have been greatly exaggerated about its performance prior. I’m glad where back down to earth now to build on.

[@alexturnqest6202]

Bro mod’s for the new z are gonna go insane once tuners get there grubby hands on them. Lol I love the fact that it’s a 370z with a twin turbo engine. I don’t think people understand how much cheaper it’ll be to extract performance out of the Z since it’s based on a familiar and well r&d’d chassis.

[@RandenMontalvo]

@@alexturnqest6202 it’s not going to be crazy it’s going to be the same power as we have in Qs for years already. It’s a old engine; nothing new with power and it’s no where near underrated as a B58 etc so it’s well known what to expect. Doesn’t mean it stinks it’s just nothing new.

[@jhonnysport7908]

FINALLY. For years I've been asking them to do the old 370 z and I thought they'd NEVER do it

[@subfrost7]

i agree i expected a much wider gap thats not that much

[@jovani6044]

Nissan Z will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@bliglum]

The new Z is a bit of a disappointment. Disappointing driving dynamics, disappointingly slow, and how they locked the LSD behind a damn 10K paywall is EXTREMELY disappointing. But these days, everything is always sold out, so I'm sure it will still sell well.

[@Pinkarmada01]

Thats what toyota is doing with the gr corolla. Even tho the car is awd in all trim levels ofc, you gotta include it if youre buying the base trim or outright buy thr performance trim to get the lsd for all 4 wheels or youll just be stuck with a open diff awd system. Kind sucks cause back then, you would pay extra for the actual experience of the car and it included everything. Now its like, oh yea this this the highest trim level but you still need to include all the goodies to have the actual experience we built and its like why dude. That pretty much makes the 35k msrp car a 60k car before markup in most cases it sucks

[@BigHeadClan]

The soft suspension is unfortunate and likely the reason for the braking issue. But it is not a slow car in any capacity. As for the 10k package yeah it sucks for now but Nissan will offer a dedicated sports package without the interior bits for less money later. They are just making the most the most they can off the initial car sales.

[@bliglum]

@@BigHeadClan Yeah, its fast compared to average cars. But compared to its competitors, its a bit wanting

[@MattyH1992]

​@@bliglum That's basically always been true for the Z. It has never been top of its class.

[@bbehzadi413]

I like the new Z but I think the 370z has nicer body lines and rear end

[@srmx518]

I was screaming about the no lift shift watching this video, thank you for turning it off during video! 😂

[@titan1080]

You're closing shot is spot-on!

[@povertyspec9651]

The 370 is one of the best looking cars ever!

[@akumabear]

As a Z fan, the new one is pretty underwhelming and doesn’t do it for me. Only the engine gets more power but loses the unique VQ character and the NA feel. If i just want power i could’ve chosen a muscle car. Owning the 370Z nismo and some supercars, its honestly one of my favorite sports cars ive driven. Yes its a bit heavy but the steering feel, engine, is top notch. Not the best shifter feel compared to others like brz and miata, but the way it drives is wonderful and feels properly tuned, especially after some mods to let the engine breath better. The 370Z is such an attractive and addictive car. Really hope they can step up the game in the Nismo 400Z cuz so far most ive heard from the 400Z is pretty disappointing.

[@gmurf5599]

No such thing as a 400Z. Just, Z.

[@akumabear]

@@gmurf5599 its the same thing... literally just a name.

[@CM-vv8cv]

Valid complaint really, the Z platform has pretty much always been a N/A 6cyl, and when it wasn't - it didn't sell well or receive near as much love. The new Z is great still, but I'd take the nismo. Real old school car.

[@loxan22]

the 370Z still look better

[@thenovalabs]

Ive been waiting for this… Thank you!!!

[@drecochannel]

This is ABSOUTELY Fairly DRAG RACE. I love this video

[@ImportsandExotics]

The new Z finally beat something 🥳

[@BooTub3]

The way the new Z’s passenger seat was shaking.. Poor build quality is an understatement

[@scott8238]

its a really stiff riding car is why it was shaking. I drove one before buying the normal 370z sport and the nismo will shake your fillings lose.

[@MA-xo8cf]

The 370z is so good inside and outside

[@CHRISDAHOTBOY]

Great video 👌💯

[@gigi9467]

OMG thank you for the lap times!!!! Without thats this would be a boring video! Measuring only Strait line on vehicles that are suppose to be sports car come what is this the 70’s??!

[@jp23x]

Considering it took Nissan over a decade to update the Z I'd still expect more performance, specially at the price point

[@shaesnell3938]

Wow the Nismo looked so much more composed on the track. Give it a power upgrade and some new tires and Bob's your uncle

[@RiZenAsH]

I’ll hang on to my 370z for awhile longer. This new Z isn’t doing it for me.

[@DGrey]

I’m with you. I have a 2016 nismo tech. It may be a tougher decision for me once the Z nismo comes out but I’m seeing $10K to 20K over list from the few dealers that have a new Z proto. I’d never pay over list. Not liking the big square grill opening still.

[@fuzzblightyear145]

me too. While I do love the back end of the 400, my 370 just looks way sexier. And I haven;t yet "modded the crap out of it"

[@bjornironsides6474]

I would never get rid of my nismo. Keep that gem! Just own two Zs if you must 😅.

[@boostedscout]

The conversation after the second run is the best part lol

[@jponz85]

Should had brought the Q60s red sport for the other guy to drive it just for comparison. Great video either way

[@shawndesilva7552]

Id still pick the 370z over the new one

[@Genesiscoupe3000]

370z is so much better then that new abomination. Even with the new Z having no lift shift, and extra hp lol!

[@bandobuilt6846]

For a 120k price tag that’s not good enough.

[@bandobuilt6846]

@Thor Odin son my area is 120k for one no joke.

[@BrendanEvan]

Shockingly close drag race for the first couple gears

[@luisforeal8676]

The exhaust notes sound exactly the same. Great race video!!!

[@johnnyturbo8460]

I do like how the new Z kind of resembles the old 280Z (roof line, rear pillar etc...)

[@xborg7117]

Its a big disapointment for me tbh. I hate old stuff, and 370z is nissan's masterpiece.

[@johnnyturbo8460]

@@xborg7117 That's because you probably were not around in Nissans hay days when they were putting out cool cars like the 280z the 300 twin turbo z.. To this day a 90s 300z twin turbo with a simple chip install, and rejetted boost lines would still walk a 370z. Not out handle one but definitely out run it. The 350z and the 370zs are good cars, especially when buying used for a beater track car but the excitement and thrill is not there like it was when the Japanese car craz was real strong in the 90s. ( Supra Turbo, 300zTT, Mitsubishi galant VR4, Mazda RX7, 3000GT VR4 TT, Honda Type Rs, Acura NSX, to name a few) The 350s-370s are good like the old ones because there is a huge aftermarket for them. They are relatively inexpensive so like I mentioned before, they are good driving cars and perfect for a track beater because if you crash one you can just junk it and buy another. I feel the 350s-370s will come and go like the 350s are at this point. The 370s will follow. But the 280zs and 300TT z are iconic. IMO

[@claudebaron9334]

Would be better to buy a used 370 Z and slap some turbo on it ! It would leave the new Z in the dust

[@enjoshi-godrez8775]

Pretty amazing the new z can beat the old nismo around the track, when it was designed to be the sedan of the range. I expect the nismo version of this to be the genuine track replacement.

[@negativeindustrial]

The new Nismo will have upgraded brakes and some aero improvements but that’s about it.

[@maxl.2691]

Well, the sport version was beating the nismo version on numerous track tests. So well, thats not really saying too much. :D

[@jturner1320]

I don't see it that amazing. Normally yes the first trim of a new car shouldn't be faster than the highest trim of the out going generation, but in this instance the new Z is 50 more hp with better tires and cost $7,000 more. It should be much better and it isn't. Nissan is just hoping for nostalgia styling sales. A better track focused Nismo Z will be pushing 70k and not worth it unless they somehow make it magical.

[@enjoshi-godrez8775]

@@jturner1320 im saying it was never deigned to go the fastest in a straight line or a track. Its a sports *sedan* as apposed to something like mx5, which is purely a sports car, but has drastically less practicality. I agree that its mostly a pretty face. Nissan is in a very compromised r&d posision at this price point. Its why Toyota went to BMW.

[@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS]

@@enjoshi-godrez8775 I think the term youre looking for is GT car cuz this ain't no sedan lol

[@d33pNacho]

The design of the "old" model is so much better than the new one! It does look more modern as well!

[@brandonterry4638]

Can you guys please do an older sports car beater battle,catfish camaro vs a firebird or something in that genre man you guys would make a great old vs old challenge series on older affordable beater cars...best car show on YT!

[@andychristensen2947]

Nismo just looked *so* much smoother in the hotlap bonus footage. Did the performance really rattle you around that much?

[@BigHeadClan]

Yeah looks like the overly soft suspension isn’t letting the car settle at any point on their course. Although the brakes should feel fine, not sure if throttle houses track is just that bumpy or something is up with that tester Z.

[@andychristensen2947]

In the drag races the car was having trouble too according to James. He was indicating that it felt a lot more squirrely, even in a straight line than he expected. Just not what I would expect from a new Z.

[@dielaughing73]

@@BigHeadClan the Nismo suspension on the 370 is pretty sorted I think. The base suspension leaves a bit to be desired

[@BigHeadClan]

@@dielaughing73 Aye the stock suspension was just okay in the 370z , but it had no issues at high speed or heavy breaking, the sport package was well notably stiffer and the Nismo even still. But we do have nearly 13 years of chassis development in from the 370z, it may be called the FM platform but it got an update in 2014 (only for the Q50/60) and again with this new generation. So I think Nissan felt with the extra chassis stiffness they could get away with softer suspension but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[@ranmas2004]

Looks like Nissan fumbled the ball on the new Z because it should outperform the previous generation in ALL areas not just a straight line!!

[@MattyH1992]

I mean they did compare the most performance oriented version to not that, and it DID beat it, just not by a lot. Whose to say that the new Z isn't designed to be more of a touring car or some shit. In any event, I'm just glad another company is making manuals.

[@boosted_brody5474]

The new one tested here is a "base model" compared to an older Nismo version

[@seancole7827]

speaking of the 370Z Nismo, i always wondered how good a V6 Camaro 1LE would fair against it (both on same tires) plus you guys have tested every 1LE except the V6

[@Sithene]

at the track? no contest. the v6 1le would wipe the floor with it.

[@NateandSelena]

@@Sithene the v6 Camaro does the quarter mile in 13.8 the z does it at 13.1 so I’m guessing ur not talking at the strip ?

[@Sithene]

@@NateandSelena i meant like a road course

[@TeamCAE]

Great video! I still prefere my 370z Nismo v2 over the new Z Nismo even tho the new Z got more power...

[@anxndshankar]

Amazing one.🔥

[@germanengineering204]

370 Z is far better looking overall which is pretty sad for Nissan design team!

[@shx7051]

370z looks better 😍

[@googlewolly]

Meh.

[@sirspeedsalot]

Thank you I agree . I got 370z and I like the engine in the new Z but I love the 370z looks so much ,non people ask me all the time if it's a Porsche

[@ReptileRaptureRR]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@honkhonk1555]

The V1 Nismo 370 looks even better. The wheels too.

[@frankthetank3851]

@@googlewollyBro drives a Corolla and says meh

[@Existentialcrisis_1488]

Fuckkk thank you, wanted to see this comparison. Was very curious as a 370z owner

[@SethingtonIII]

3:19 " *Thats because your granny shifting, not double clutching like you should* " -Dom

[@MyName-mi8qr]

That outro before the hot lap was great. Always excellent comedy that you two provide. Seems like the 370 was a little more composed over the hot lap versus the 400. Was the truly the case?

[@Themayseffect]

the 370 is also lighter with less weight over the nose. The power difference in stock form isn't that vast. The difference will be when people start tuning these things. The N/A engine will have no chance to compete with a simple tuned twin turbo engine.