TikTok Has a Cop Problem

[@Ari-ez1vj]

Got pulled over cause I forgot I turned off my lights while I was eating at mcdonalds. They asked to see my ID and cause I was on the other side of town they started asking me why I was there. I told him that I was at my parents house and heading home after eating, but he insisted that wasn't true. I got a bit heated at that point and said something to the effect of "is it illegal to drive on this side of town?". He went back to his car and called for a k-9 unit. He came back a few moments later and there were 6 cop cars around me. He questioned me about my marijuana license; gave me a dui test, and then handcuffed me so he could get the dog to sniff my car. I literally saw the cop circle around the car; and then tug on the dog's leash. The dog looked back at him and then tapped on the floor once with his paw, the cop gave him a fucking treat, and then he barked. They spent the next half hour tearing up my car looking for drugs -- they never found any. I got sent home with a warning, an unforgettable feeling that I was violated, and belittled. I asked the officer who started this why this was happening; what caused him to do this? His answer: "You were an asshole."

[@idontwantahandlethough]

Yup. Knowing your rights makes you an asshole in the eyes of police, isn't that wonderful? :|

[@ReiAnikaAyanami]

holy shit that sounds terrifying, i'm so sorry that happened to you.

[@presidentalpaca]

That's atrocious I'm so sorry dude. Last 4/20 I got pulled over for the same reason. He made me do a full DWI test cause, yknow, tis the season. The "follow my finger" part took for-fucking-ever. My ability to keep prolonged eye contact is not great. Neither is my attention span. I have ADHD and I might be on the spectrum (not sure and havent tested). I was also completely sober. Hadn't smoked or drank anything in days. He insisted that I was high but under the legal limit, even after I tried to gently explain that I cant keep eye contact. He called himself a "drug expert," which I interpreted as completion of a week-long course, at most. I've always known the whole system works against various disabilities, and I knew I was automatically on his good side by being a short gender-conforming white girl. but the fact that my issues are way less intense than most others' and they still created a barrier where I could've gotten in trouble for doing nothing?? That added a whole other layer for me.

[@mustafa._.9371]

But you hurt his little man feelings🥺

[@mynamejeff3545]

Sniffing dogs can easily be trained to give false positives. If the handler is excited and expecting the dog to find something, of course the dog will comply, even if there isn't a whiff of weed in the air. Dogs are just an eloborate way of saying "I thought I smelt weed" so the cops have an excuse to tear up your car.

[@hylvic6707]

The way cop content on tiktok is so awkward, pointless, and uncomfortable really makes you wonder why they're the face of public interaction

[@fuglong]

You've described all tik tok content imo. I can't believe a phone is all it takes for grown ass adults to lose all shame

[@TheEepyMagi]

@@fuglong well, most of tiktok. Go to the right places and you just have a bunch of hilarious teens and young adults making short videos like Vine never ended. Most of these people are from marginalized groups, especially LGBTQ+ people. Now, I'm not saying those two things are connected, but yes they absolutely are.

[@TheN00bmonster]

The only good thing from cop TikTok is that at least those cops are busy being on their phone instead of harassing people

[@ButchBirdie]

Because the alternative is letting the actual traffic stops and shit be the face of public interaction and we all know why they don't wanna do that

[@gordonramsayslambsauce]

@@TheN00bmonster yeah but that also turns right around into another negative because now they're creating a digital safe space for cop lovers to rationalize their own thinking with other cop lovers

[@bloodandempire]

I was raped as a 13 year old and I walked into the cop shop bloody and shoeless in the winter and they made fun of me and threatened to have me arrested for prostitution if I tried to press charges. They said I had no business being a neighbor I don't live in and I was just mad my john didn't pay me 😭

[@user-uq5rm7io8h]

that is fucking horrible, acab to the max

[@YilingLesbian]

That is beyond fucked up. I’m really sorry you had to go through that.

[@ljeans531]

That is so traumatic. Im so sorry. Make sure to record every interaction you have with the police.

[@calypso5846]

WHAT THE FUCK oh my god im so sorry

[@abelinasabrina]

people in police academy will watch COPS and call it studying.

[@trevorford8702]

People in police academy have never heard of “studying”. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be cops.

[@parasthesia1]

isnt it only like a 3 or 4 month course or some shit

[@BigAlexgator]

So glad to see you here, girl!! Hope you’re well. F the cops for sure tho lmaooo. I think they need to reboot COPS to show all the police brutality but pretend they’re pro cop agenda

[@CrumpetsElite]

It's only considered studying because it will make you dumb enough to pass the test

[@white_isnt_a_race2338]

Your plumber literally requires more training than cops

[@funandyvideos]

"Police are like a box of chocolates; they'll both kill your dog."

[@hoorayitsjackie6166]

Brilliant

[@ollie2111]

I covered my mouth with my hand hahahaha darkly funny.

[@applehead2134]

and it's always your fault for being a bad owner edit: I was being sarcastic

[@smooth_4306]

NOOO 😭😭

[@applehead2134]

@Ace the gender goblin What? No? I meant that police won't take responsibility for killing a dog.

[@caesarsalad493]

My mom called the cops on me when I was 15 because I was having an emotional meltdown. I wasn’t being violent or aggressive, I was literally sitting in the corner, whaling and covering my ears. She was being extremely manipulative and verbally abusive towards me, which was the very cause of said meltdown. I have been diagnosed with autism and borderline personality disorder, but this was years after this event. I remember sitting there wailing, but I couldn’t stop myself. Instead of being a decent parent, she decided she didn’t want to deal with me anymore and called the cops. She even made her friend come over to “comfort” her. Which was incredibly embarrassing for me. The cop showed up, made me get up and sit in the middle of the living room on a chair, and proceeded to be the biggest fucking asshole. He was all like “why are you crying? You have no reason to be crying. You have a mom,dad and a house” etc. I couldn’t even respond I was so scared, confused and upset. I knew IMMEDIATELY that he didn’t give a rat’s ass about my side of the story. Nor did my mother obviously. The cop basically threatened that I either shut up or he takes me into custody to see how that feels. This definitely not my only negative experience with a cop, but one that will always stick with me.

[@Sodapatches]

Sorry you had to go through that, cops are fucking horrible, I hope things got better for you since then

[@ethanstump]

As someone who is also autistic, many people either don't know or don't care that those with a disability are just as likely as POC to face police brutality. It's one of those things I kinda instinctually knew, but never really clicked for me until I was radicalized. ACAB

[@iandaughdrill5889]

As someone with autism, I understand this. It hasn't happened with cops (yet) but it happens with just about everyone else. My parents, my teachers, and pretty much anyone I know who isn't autistic. I've recently started spending most of my time with other autistic people, and it has helped so much. They don't quite understand what I am personally going through, but they understand that they shouldn't do shit like this.

[@ona512]

love it when an adult threatens to give a child a criminal record for having emotions (and by love i mean HATE)

[@aalex.g]

i have a similar story! when i was 13 (granted i did st/b her) my mom called the police on me. i was in a full blown manic episode before we really knew what was wrong. except i wasnt the one that was belittled. the cops came in and separated us and then as my mom tried to have me arrested i heard the cop tell her that this "wasnt a case of domestic violence or abuse". back then i was grateful but now i see how horrible that was to say to her and that even though it was a case of mental issues, it very much was still abuse. it really was the emts that deescalated the situation and were very supportive while the cops stood there arguing with us the whole time.

[@obsursion]

"One day you are going to need them and they're not gonna be there" huh, that just sounds like every time I've ever needed the police

[@Kay-om8ik]

Fr here where I live we have a lot of problems with domestic abuse, robbery and child abuse. Every time we tried to called the police to help others, or even when we needed them ourselves it was always "we can't really do anything to help you". Sorry for commenting sooo late, but I just saw your comment now

[@Nocturnalux]

I was groped at age 15, in front of TWO cops and what did they do? Made fun of me. I was in tears and these men, who were supposed to be there for me, took the guy’s side. This was over twenty years ago and still remember it. This wasn’t in America either.

[@camelopardalis84]

A relative of mine was raped at that age after being dragged into a car over 20 years ago. Which was some time ago, but not quite the 1620s. She ended up being questioned a couple of days later _in front of her school_ and _in a police car_ by _two male police officers_ . She was old enough to be aware of how bad an idea that was. CAR. MEN. IN FRONT OF HER SCHOOL WHERE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE WHO KNEW HER PERSONALLY COULD SEE HER. This was also not in the US.

[@Nocturnalux]

@@camelopardalis84 That just goes to show how little they understood- or cared- about the situation.

[@berraloks]

I'll take thing that didn't happen for 500 dollars alex

[@Nocturnalux]

@@berraloks Lol, yeah, I bet you do.

[@OllieBeesGarden]

@@berraloks go back to sucking on ur moms teat for milkies we dont need u talking down to victims because in the end its literally not ur right to question them on the experiences that they say theyve had to go through. at the end of the day ur the asshole

[@shishiromura]

As a private investigator i often think about how much easier my job would be if cops werent shit at their job. I also get a significant amount of adultery and domestic abuse cases against cops. Almost every single physical abuse case i get is involving a cop.

[@unknowngirlul2344]

How did you become a private investigator? Like college degree?

[@shishiromura]

@@unknowngirlul2344 in my state its by investigative experience. Apprenticeship, process service, being a cop, and i think some military jobs count as well. I was a process server. So i focus on finding people. Missing persons, fleeing debt, etc.

[@RankaZer0]

That's cute

[@JordanAdika]

you either become friends with the monster or your whole head become a pumpkin 🎃

[@caseymckenna7111]

I have often said this in my own life.

[@cloverthefrog]

excellent take, jordan

[@frida9380]

Yes, I agree

[@chasejones7008]

🎃

[@OsamuuDazaiii]

Guess I'm a pumpkin 🎃

[@CoilCannon]

As a person who's very interested in true crime, there's so many examples of corruption and laziness within the police system when it comes to how certain homicide cases are handled. It's really disheartening and unfortunate that not even the dead can get true justice sometimes, all because of clear bias' that get blatantly ignored

[@crypticcorvid]

Literally, lmao. 💀 Nearly every case I hear could've been prevented, or the murderer caught if the cops actually did something. And if you say anything pointing out how shitty their work is, you'll get non-stop hate in the comments lmao.

[@TRexRAWWR1]

Fr, i've been listening to true crime for years and most of the time when the cops show up they somehow make things worse.

[@brutus3631]

depends on who's presenting the case. some people just ignore the blatant neglect from the cops and say things that would make it less serious

[@Octobermarceline]

Especially when they dismiss the family when someone goes missing

[@QuillC]

"The local police had received numerous reports from local citizens noting the smell of dead bodies coming from the residence for years, as well as neighbors calling in about body sized bags being moved in an out under the cover of darkness, and bloody heads being shoved into the mailbox of the residence... No investigation was ever conducted and local police declined to comment." - Every true crime case ever

[@oddlie-small]

I was hit on by a cop that came to my house right after my ex tried to kill me. He was such a shmarmy meat head. I needed a social worker who understood the trauma I had just endured. He really thought that I’d be flattered? You hit so many good points and made me laugh. Now I’m going to watch all of your other videos!

[@watermelon..]

damn, cops really are insensitive bastards. i’m so sorry that happened to you and that the dumbass cop just shrugged off your trauma like that. i hope that insensitive turd burger gets cheated on by his wife

[@unHolyEvelyn]

I'm sorry that happened to you, I'm glad you're okay.

[@dylanroy2653]

yo we gotta start talking about these dog murders at the hands of cops more. Nothing will get white suburbia behind a cause faster than saving dogs

[@gypsylee333]

During the protests since I couldn't really participate, I hung up a bunch of posters around town about the dog murders cuz ITA

[@Squishy876]

Good point!

[@tylerthejetsuarez8902]

Actually statistically speaking you should say asian suburbia because statistically speaking white people only live in apartments.

[@radiationshepherd]

Lol

[@magnarcreed3801]

Well yeah. Killing an innocent doggo is bad.

[@maxrydzyn6263]

The "gay cop" one is kinda triggering for me. I live in Poland, and in the past couple years police brutality against lgbt people was very common in here. We had a lot of gay rights and pro choice manifestations because of some awful changes in law, and apparently cops are told to beat up people that have rainbow flags in situations like that. So yeah, a lot of fully armored police officers kicking and tazing young, often underaged people

[@Treeeboy]

I love Poland so much and it hurts me to hear how much their just going backwards with regards to human rights, when I was exploring my gender it was just so miserable to look at a map of "LGBT Free zones" in the country and trying to find somewhere I could visit and not feel in danger.

[@heggoosh]

Well, as a Polish citizen myself, I gotta admit, our Police is a weird creature. On the one hand, they protected pride march in Białystok from far-right counter-protesters, every year they have to clash with nationalist in Warsaw. On the other hand, they were ordered to pacify Women's Strike, they guarded some humble Sejm Deputy's home and detained anyone who attempted to get near it. Sometimes you meet a nice cop on the street, who is more than willing to help you with anything, but when you go report something really seriuos on the police station, you often meet this grumpy and obese staff sergeant who doesn't give a damn about you. And incompetence of some police officers, mainly Policja administration is just frustrating. How you can "accidentally" fire an grenade launcher in your own office? Honestly, I don't know what to think about our Police anymore. And I'm afraid, when some positive changes will be eventually made, some stupid politician will ruin it all. I think Policja would be a better formation without political pressure from the government.

[@ProfJamie20]

As a neurodivergent person, encountering cops is terrifying. I am lucky to not have dealt with any situations by myself or that were directed towards me yet, but I think a lot of people don’t realize how scary and dangerous it is for nd people with cops. Like they start giving WAY too many instructions at once and they get mad at you for not making eye contact or being anxious and they think you’re hiding something??? And then they get even more aggressive and it’s just a whole terrifying and dangerous mess. And I’m WHITE, I can’t imagine also being a POC that must be horrifying… Anyway what I’m saying is ACAB

[@ProfJamie20]

@@pioxels2311 Ghostbusters

[@blobfish7109]

@@pioxels2311 What are the cops going to do? Come four hours after the incident and then shoot my dog? Cause that seems to be pretty common occurrence when it comes to calling the cops for home robberies.

[@jjprentiss9192]

@@pioxels2311 ….the cops?? just bc we don’t like them doesn’t mean we don’t call them. but yk what if someone robs my house the police won’t care they literally don’t care and have said that

[@jjprentiss9192]

ikr I can’t imagine being POC with a cop bc just imagining having to count backwards by 7s makes we anxious bc I’m not looking at them and I have to think and everything

[@jaydenlynette8648]

@@pioxels2311my insurance company

[@chasejones7008]

I love Ethan not being afraid to pull his punches, Black ppl, myself included routinely have to be ever so respectful when addressing police brutality without being called a criminal like I literally don't have family members that were raped, blamed for their house being broken into and them positioning themselves to be raped and then are told routinely see how rapists and murderers would be loose without cops, like there are multiple stories of Black women getting their pregnant stomachs stomped on during routine traffic stops and I've seen drunk white men yell at cops and the cops wait patiently but the justice system needs no changes

[@chasejones7008]

Thanks so much for the heart Ethan ik you're bi so if you wanna date a pansexual Black girl I'm volunteering 🥰

[@The_Ajna]

@@chasejones7008 shoot your shot girl lmao

[@shaybribri]

@@chasejones7008 woooah hey fellow pansexual black girl!!

[@user-zr1wv4tt4y]

I had the same thoughts! Shoutout to White allies speaking the truth.

[@CatsandDragons7]

I hope your family is doing okay :( I’m so so sorry you and they have to deal with that.

[@pixie7042]

I will never forgive the cops that treated my mom like she was crazy for crying about being abused. She was literally threatening to end her life and they sided with my father. I learned then to never trust cops with anything. Now my mom begs me not to call the cops even for serious matters, she could be in a life or death situation and still be too afraid to call them.

[@unHolyEvelyn]

You and me both, but my mom never learned to stop trusting pigs.

[@_inkykitty_5054]

That might actually be the most heartbreaking, horrific, jaw dropping thing I’ve ever heard. I’m so sorry and I hope she’s ok now.

[@emiliew5553]

thats terrible. i'm so sorry about that and i hope your mom is recovering from the trauma

[@inlieuofsense9521]

the police really does fuck all when it comes to protecting people, just the sight of a these pigs standing around authoritatively with their thumbs in their vests gets my blood boiling so sorry that happend to your mother, sadly far from the first time i heard similar things from people that are very close to me

[@twinbruisesonmyshins]

same. my mother tried fleeing from her abusive ex, and when she warned the cops and asked for protection they asked if "it was bad enough to send her to the hospital", followed with a "then why are you complaining?". later, when i made a call to the police station at 14 after we fled, i made a call for my mother as she wasnt fluent in the countries first language , and the police officer changed the topic, and tried to coerce me into saying the sexual assault her ex committed against me "could've been a mistake" because he "seemed so nice"

[@vivlyviv]

Our cops must be so brave to sit at a desk next to all the murderers, domestic abusers, and KKK members in the force. 😔

[@kasketbase8741]

Ah yes anti cop propaganda

[@Nothanie]

@@kasketbase8741 Ah yes, the fucking truth

[@theclockman775]

@@Nothaniewdym

[@ona512]

truth and truth.

[@00RoxPink]

If it bothers them so much seeing it, they should take the mirror out of their office.

[@cassandracrakes532]

in social psychology, there’s a study nicknamed “the gun study” that assessed if people would become more aggressive if just in the presence of a symbol of violence. they tested it by having participants have an anger/frustration promoting situation. the room either had a gun or a badminton racket. other variables were controlled (obviously). people in the gun condition showed significantly more aggression than those in the badminton racquet condition. this is further explained by the weapons effect (also social psychology) which states that the mere presence of violent symbol promotes aggression. meaning that cops, by definition; by their existence, promote aggression in themselves & others

[@DeathnoteBB]

Cops also cause “broken window effect” but I forget how. Something about how overpolicing neighborhoods leads to more crime? It’s depressing how cops create more crime, leading the ignorant to believe cops are necessary “because of all the crime”. It’s like seeing a revolt against a dictatorship and citing the revolt as to why the dictatorship is necessary 🤦

[@emmyarmstrong1540]

where can I find this study?

[@shinybearevidra]

@@emmyarmstrong1540 I found a different article that has a similar thesis, "Wielding a gun makes a shooter perceive others as wielding a gun too", you can find it on science daily, it's source is the Colorado State University

[@iandaughdrill5889]

Oh, yeah, the presence of cops just makes the entire situation more tense.

[@Marianiki2002]

Imagine going to your job and having an abused woman file a report on her abuser and recount the horrible things she went through and the first thing you think off is "damn this good tiktok content tho"

[@Marianiki2002]

"SAVAGE LOVE WOULD GO GREAT WITH IT TOO, KIDS LOVE THAT SHIT"

[@thenetherbaddie9760]

ikr. it makes me so mad. the fact they basically went "did somebody break your heart? uwu" like bitch no, he broke her arm. dont downplay it.

[@Ryukuro]

That's just general tiktok brain

[@unHolyEvelyn]

"Man, she's single now? While she's recounting these horrifying tales of abuse, I think NOW is the time I'll shoot my shot!" What the fuck has to be wrong with someone to think like this?

[@the_randoms7742]

Can we start glorifying firefighters or EMT's instead of cops?

[@treysonmcgrady4750]

We kinda already do with firefighters and for good reason. Not saying they couldn’t use more or we should stop, but I definitely agree EMTs need more love. And more pay, they make dick for doing one of the hardest jobs out there.

[@theclockman775]

get off your ass and go talk to your local senator

[@infiresnation7430]

Lol agreed to both of you

[@miaumiaumiau692]

def. firefighters actually do more shit than cops lmao

[@squirraffe3252]

please?

[@maxatrillionfatstacks]

I never get over the irony of conservatives being like "dont tread on me, you can only rely on your gun to protect yourself the cops wont show up in time." And then in the next breath be like "you're unamerican if you dont back the blue."

[@kox7527]

Its the nature of the conservative "libertarian", they all love cops, they are all anti-abortion, anti- sex worker. I mean if Matt Walsh considers himself a libertarian you know they actually don't know what that term means. I seriously don't know how someone can look at you and say straight-faced that they are libertarians and say all these things, but hey conservatives are as politically literate as a moldy fridge, and they just like the aesthetic of being anti-establishment, while also praising Trump for every shit he took while he was president.

[@otakunthevegan4206]

They need police to act as stormtroopers to keep non-whites down.

[@Czarwinters3313]

I mean having something to protect yourself in a emergency is always good being that cops can’t always arrive in split seconds which is about how much time it takes for something to go wrong. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t respect the police force

[@maxatrillionfatstacks]

@@Czarwinters3313 so again what's the point of the police if we can't rely on them in an emergency that's the whole point of having them, to protect and serve. Also I was pointing out how hypocritical it is to have the "don't tread on me/government shouldn't tell me how to live" mentality and then support the police because they are the enforcers of the government's will. Conservatives will cry for freedom then vote for authoritarianism every damn time.

[@mparstrikesback]

@@Czarwinters3313 Sure, that's not 100% of why we shouldn't respect the police. There are so many other reasons!

[@shaybribri]

I really appreciate this video Ethan! As a black woman I feel like I can’t even talk about my criticism towards the police without being seen as an ‘angry black woman’

[@DeepDiveLibrarianAl]

That's not right, you have every right to critique the police as anyone else (if not more)! If you have anymore thoughts I would love to hear them. Ethan did make a great video, loved the stats and jabs at cops

[@Thewrightchoices4u]

Same

[@espeon871]

Its really sad to hear that critiques of cops get met with dismissal especially when its done by people impacted negatively by law enforcement, like black people for eg, im hope the world will change where your feelings arent dismissed

[@espeon871]

@@DeepDiveLibrarianAl yep

[@gavinwilson2071]

And now a white man has taken the piss out of them for 8 minutes on KZbin you will not be seen as an angry black woman anymore. Because that makes sense.

[@zephyrsilly]

I’m a 16 year old AFAB person (i use any pronouns and am a part of the LGBTQ+ community.) I was 13 when i had called the police because a man on instagram had my address and said he was coming over to my house. A singular policeman arrived, and he called my mom and had her take me to her work place so she could watch me. A few hours later, we were told that the policeman watched the man i had been talking to on insta come up to my houses door, knock on it multiple times and wait, before he finally left. They did nothing. Before i went with my mom, they took my phone. It’s been three years, and the last update we had on the case was 2 and a half years ago where they said someone else had taken over the case. Nothing has come from it since then, and they still have my old phone. In all honesty, I dont even want that phone back because I’m scared they may have done something to it. This isn’t even mentioning the multiple moments in school where police had told everyone to back away from me or hold me down because i was “dangerous” while i was having a panic attack. Not to mention them forcing me into psych wards for showing mental distress caused by everyone around me yelling at me. All in all, my trust in the police has been lost for a while at this point. They can act as they like, but I will never truly trust them.

[@iandaughdrill5889]

Psych wards are overused. They are put in place because these cops don't have the experience they need to deal with us. I don't even blame cops for this, but I do think there should be someone there who knows how to deal with this stuff.

[@originalchildclown]

when I got assaulted I waited before reporting anything, when I finally went they listened to me without writing anything down, then told me girls do this all the time to try to get their ex's in trouble anyway, and was shown the door. I was not reporting anything about an ex (i never had a boyfriend at that time). so they werent even listening to me. he was a random person, i still dont know his name or who he was. i left and felt like it was pointless and wondered why i had to relive all of that for nothing.

[@crystalrose4562]

first of all im so sorry that happened to you. second of all thats the fucking problem!! this happens all the time and it teaches assaulters and rapists that they can get away with their actions with no punishments. no justice for the person assaulted either. youve already gone through something so traumatic and the people who are supposed to help leaving you feeling more helpless than before.

[@originalchildclown]

@@crystalrose4562 thank you for your kind words. this was around 2010 in south florida.

[@Megan-cd6sh]

I am so sorry that this happened to you. Myself and far too many of my friends have experienced similar situations. And then victims get asked why they don't report? THIS! This is why. I am sending you a virtual hug, you did not deserve any of it. None of it was your fault.

[@thenetherbaddie9760]

that's so horrible. i'm so sorry that happened to you, that cop makes me sick.

[@DeathnoteBB]

And people have the audacity to say “wHy DiDn’T yOu RePoRt It”

[@ethanclark85]

Conservatives: “We got guns, we don’t call the police around here. Don’t mess with us.” Also conservatives: “Hey, we need those cops! Don’t defund them! They protect us!”

[@DeezN00tz99]

because they are one in the same.

[@QuikVidGuy]

Englebert and Charlemagne

[@kasketbase8741]

Well liberals wanna take away guns and the police so....

[@DeezN00tz99]

@@kasketbase8741 incorrect, there are plenty of liberal gun owners in fact since the right have now talked about killing gays and their enemies (see RINO commercial taggin and baggin) I'd wager its the right causing the left to get more guns to protect themselves. A little research wouldnt kill you but given ur complaining about dem libzzzzz i have a feeling ull cry "fake news" anyways

[@unHolyEvelyn]

You don't understand, they're afraid of those dangerous, unarmed, nonviolent minorities!!!! 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😰😰😰😰😰😱😱😰😱😰😱

[@noalowenstein6741]

the "ticket or dance" thing also illustrates another point; that cops can choose whether or not to give you a ticket depending on their whims. so the whole "I don't make the laws I just enforce them" thing is total bullshit lol

[@gnocchidokey]

Terrible move on their part bringing it up at all because now all our minds go RIGHT to what else a cop might ask a woman to do to get out of a ticket.

[@zacharyodinlynn6667]

My father is a cop and I can confirm 100% that they are abusive cowards obsessed with power.

[@sophiathefurbst]

Yeah, I don’t remember where so take this with a grain of salt but I read that a lot of serial killers (typically male ones; it’s more common for female ones to become nurses, but obviously that’s not mutually exclusive) tend to become/try to become cops *because* of that power Edit: oh yeah and about half are domestic abusers :’))

[@fragile-capricorn2128]

same here, cop child, the manipulation and way certain cops treat their children is horrible

[@alexsnightmare]

my cousin's a cop, he openly bragged about how he'd use his power to target and abuse Hispanic men. 100% agree with you

[@keppakappa5033]

only tangently related but my dad was a firefighter who was friends with cops and would frequently bring up his close ties with them whenever we'd bring up the fact that maybe his violent tendencies, power tripping, and constant physical/verbal/mental abuse towards us were doing more harm to the family than good, and that they'd side with him before they'd ever side with us. You don't even have to be a cop to be able to abuse their power, just be buddy-buddy enough with them to ensure the people you're abusing have nowhere else to go.

[@benjaminstevens4468]

Absolutes like this exist only in a hypothetical reality. Your experience is valid, however a person can really only confirm something like this about themselves not about anyone who’s life they have not lived, and most people who say things like this, even about themselves, are overlooking countless examples of evidence contrary to their assertion.

[@isaacperson129]

Just one of the thing that makes me throw up about cops when they’re like “a cop got hurt? We will work on this so hard, this is so traumatising for us omg 😢” and I just think about the ridiculously large amount of dead trans people, black people, indigenous people, disabled people that they don’t even look into.

[@domjoannou8516]

Um you know cop deaths are worth more than civilian deaths right because people who kill cops are normally more dangerous to the general public because they will just kill anyone not to mention the repercussions of one less cop on the street to stop other crimes compared to a random civilian

[@speshulgurlee]

If they looked into it too hard, some of their coworkers might get punished with paid vacations

[@isaacperson129]

@@speshulgurlee exactly

[@magnarcreed3801]

Really? I’ve seen a lot of those people that absolutely got what they deserved. Don’t fuck around and you don’t have to find out.

[@isaacperson129]

@@magnarcreed3801 I’m talking about the murder of vulnerable groups. Are you saying that that is deserved? Or what do you think deserves execution on the spot without a trial?

[@michaelautrey6641]

"good" cops get strangely silent when the bad cops do something bad.

[@Hongobingo]

ya cuz when good cops try to do something they get fired -HB

[@karmajester6504]

@@Hongobingoso they would rather keep their job knowing that something bad is happening that they could prevent, then have a chance of stopping it or getting fired? It’s not like cops would have a hard time finding another job lol they don’t get paid *that* good

[@cymtk]

If they dont get strangely quiet, they usually die shortly after in completely unrelated training accidents

[@rosethorne9155]

Yeah, they either get silent or they "go missing" and are found dead under "mysterious circumstances" 3-6 weeks later. Or their house "mysteriously" burns down, and they have to move out of the state. Or they flee the area after they find themselves being tailed by people in unmarked cars or panel vans with tinted windows. Or after their kids say they saw the same van or car waiting following them to and from school. And all these things are "internally investigated", but nobody catches anybody and nobody finds anything. (All these remarks are from real cases of cops trying to actually uphold the law and be good cops, and what was done to them afterwards.) There are no good cops, because the bad cops are the majority and force them out, sometimes fatally.

[@lazarus8018]

The noisy ones usually end up being past tense by the end of the week.

[@susbus1703]

I am a mostly anti cringe culture kind of person, I live by the motto that being cringe is ok actually and that people should feel free to be cringe but not with cop tiktok I can feel my soul recoiling into my body from the cringe

[@fluffydumbun]

i agree!!!

[@kiiro_7836]

Be cringe as long as you aren't spreading false information or hurting anyone honestly

[@fluffydumbun]

@@kiiro_7836 mhm! as long as you're just having fun and not hurting anyone then you're good with me :]

[@DreamsOfLennox]

usually my rule is that you should do whatever you want as long as you aren’t hurting other people. online, that “hurting” someone usually just means being an asshole, but in the case of cops they’re quite more than assholes. that makes them some sort of cringe squared

[@lilypaigeham]

@@DreamsOfLennox theyre cringe²

[@blubtw1644]

I used to work for a dog shelter where I was a deputy dog warden. One night I was called out for an emergency. It turned out to be a very large, very horny, male dog. Honestly he was super dangerous but there were so many ways we could deal with him. I'm just glad they called me before the cops cause when they got there their only suggestion was to shoot the dog. If that doesn't say something idk what does. We ended up tranquilizing him. Once he was back at the shelter he was pretty chill and when his owners got there he was obviously in love with them. I'm glad it all turned out the way it did.

[@DeathnoteBB]

It’s so infuriating and depressing how “shoot it” is normalized as a logical escalation to _anything_

[@oli_rythl]

@@DeathnoteBB espcially animals, just because we as humans have a higher intelligence than them doesn’t mean we should kill everything else ??

[@sirrivet9557]

@@DeathnoteBB unless someone also has a loaded gun and is ready to shoot, or is 3 feet away from you with a knife, yeah a guns usually unnecessary

[@quag6989]

@@sirrivet9557 if you're in either of those situations a gun won't protect you anyways.

[@averymemorablename329]

@@sirrivet9557 by the time you realize someone has a loaded gun, your usually dead. Especially as a cop.

[@mossdrawsstuff]

when i was groomed, someone i knew at school called the cops on me. being neurodivergent and sobbing and stimming as they questioned me about my groomer, telling me they couldnt do anything, and then yelling at me in front of my parents was humiliating and horrifying. i still have panic attacks when i hear sirens.

[@DrDinoNuggies]

Love your points about copaganda. I started my Criminal justice degree as a conservative who was completely brainwashed by this kind of media. After a few years of studying the history and the data , my worldview was completely changed. The current criminal justice system is doing significantly more harm to our society than good. Another video topic you could highlight is how horribly the other parts of our criminal justice system are portrayed on tik tok. i.e lawyer tik toks and prison life tik toks. Those systems are overlooked by media but extremely detrimental to the same groups you mentioned in the video

[@The_Ajna]

Amen

[@gorillaguerillaDK]

FFS, everything that has to do with the American "justice" system is so broken that it’s impossible to think of America as being anywhere near a modern western civilized society! But so is your healthcare system! And your educational system!

[@BirthquakeRecords]

It’s sad to think about how some people will see this comment and think “just another person *brainwashed* by their access to higher education”

[@tacticalmisandrist]

YES god I can’t stand the TikTok’s of people in prison and the comments are all “wow it doesn’t look so bad” “he’s makin more money than me in prison wtf!” No fault of the incarcerated folks, but the dumbass people who see those and romanticize or minimize incarceration piss me off. We imprison an unfathomable amount of people, and in my local jail in the last six months or so like 8 people have died, with a good chunk of that being s***ide. There is nothing good about incarceration, especially in this country.

[@tacticalmisandrist]

Also another good topic is how police, prisons and the military contribute to climate change!!! Bc no one ever brings it up during climate change discussions, I wonder why

[@abouttimeforarevolution241]

I’m dealing with the murder of a trans person I loved from my hometown right now. They were murdered about a week ago and my community is desperate to find some answers. The police have already ignored some key evidence, took too long to go visit the victims home, where the murderers car was parked and any number of people could have had an opportunity to mess with evidence…. They also said my friend had been in an altercation with the murderers son last year, except they had to come out and say “oops, turns out the two are not related” and it’s just so annoying to see a real need for some copaganda style work and it’s just guesses, negligence and mistakes thus far.

[@The88Cheat]

Really? What was the victims name? Where did this happen?

[@joshc5613]

@@The88Cheat Yeah, I'm sure they're going to tell you exactly where they live, the name of the person who was murdered, and also their home address and bank account information just because they feel like it :)

[@The88Cheat]

@@joshc5613 Why couldn't you give the name of the murdered person? It would be in the newspapers. Unless of course this person made the whole thing up. Which seems likely because you know damn well that a trans person being murdered would be reported in this political climate.

[@joshc5613]

@@The88Cheat Well, for starters, if you actually read the comment you replied to originally, the person who got murdered was someone who was close to the person who wrote the comment, so obviously they have a lot to deal with emotionally. You also clearly know nothing about what trans people getting murdered is actually like, because they're disproportionately more likely to be the victims of murder due to the fact that people are generally shitty to trans people, so it honestly would have been more surprising if it HAD been in the news. And also, you know, people generally don't respond well to random people on the internet asking for very personal details related to a person who got fucking MURDERED, and then claiming that person was making the whole story up when those details don't get shared

[@The88Cheat]

@@joshc5613 What the hell are you talking about "disproportionately more likely to be the victims of murder?" You know how many trans people were killed in 2022? Thirty-two. That's it. Trans people are way more likely to die driving to work than they are to be murdered. You probably also think that cops are shooting unarmed black people everyday too (they aren't). Let me let you in on a secret. This is the internet and people lie on the internet. All the time. Why? No idea. They want attention I guess. So more than likely that person is completely full of shit. Sure, I could be wrong, but I'm probably not. Don't believe every fanciful story someone writes in a comments section.

[@toothfairy10133]

as someone once said, tell the police nothing, tell the paramedics everything. that aside, i work in customer service and if i filmed a tiktok at work (not that i have that godforsaken app) i would be fired lmao, why are cops even allowed their phones with them? customers will cuss me out and i take it, fold up their clothes all neatly, redo it when they tell me it's not done right (are you not gonna iron them anyway??) apologise for the wait, and say "have a nice day :)" on their way out. cops will see a black person existing or an autistic person stimming or a deaf person not hearing them or any combination and just. reach for their gun.

[@iandaughdrill5889]

Customer service is so hard dude. The hardest part about being a cop is APPARENTLY not developing a superiority complex.

[@nekovalley]

So glad the police are taking well-deserved breaks from abusing their wives and kids to make these fun little tiktoks

[@unHolyEvelyn]

It's hard work, their fists and knees need a break from punching and kicking. I also imagine their vocal chords are stressed from threatening violence.

[@Psychedlia98]

Yami Marik

[@kasketbase8741]

Y’all are so triggered 😂

[@theclockman775]

what the fuck? where did that come from?

[@Nothanie]

You idiots in the replies are fucking moronic, literally over 40% of cops are (reported) domestic abusers. 40% of cops beat their kids and wives, which is a whole lot of shitty people.

[@Btgg_333]

I will forever remember when I called the cops after getting choked by my father as a 8 year old and them coming and telling me I’m wasting their time and they will fine me if I call again then telling me to just respect my father.

[@Zarmdthecoolest]

What the fuck

[@Megan-cd6sh]

Oh Alex, I am so sorry. I went through something similar as a kid and as an adult. There is something so sick about turning your back on a child, an INNOCENT, who needs helps. I am just so sorry. I would never assume to say that I know how you feel, but please know that you are not alone. You did not deserve that. Not any of it. None of it was your fault. I think reminding victims of that is so important because we are all so used to being blamed that we can internalize it. People who victim blame are sick.

[@hambone4984]

I'm so sorry that happened. I ran away from home constantly as a child and the only time I voluntarily got into an officer's car was because I thought he'd help me when I explained why I had ran away. He listened to everything while he was driving and I was in the backseat crying. He then dropped me off at home and told me to stop running away because there were actual bad people out in the world and that cops wouldn't always be there to "save" me, so I needed to stop making up stories and respect my parents. Dude really listened to a 10 year old covered in bruises wearing rags choke on tears while talking about being physically and sexually abused, and neglected at home and just decided "she's obviously lying...time to drop her back off at home."

[@Zarmdthecoolest]

@@hambone4984 WHAT THE FUCK

[@kiralonely]

I'm not surprised, but it's still heart-wrenching to hear these stories. (Not only because they're police, but because I personally have had a lot of people in authority abuse their power, largely teachers and other such adults, so I don't have much faith in adults in relation to children's feelings or abuse, but the police part does make it more, well, expected, to some degree.) Doesn't make it any less horrific. I hope you and Hambone here are doing better after all you've been through. And I wish you both nothing but the best for your futures. ^^;;

[@kaydenpedraza9709]

I love that he’s speak on the cops in regards to People of color. I literally reported this guy that lives next to me because he literally has been sexually harassing me and they literally said “ we can’t do anything unless he “does” something”.

[@AleTitan]

Cops said the same thing when I tried to report on r@pe threats I was getting through text at the time (and I was a minor at the time too)

[@iandaughdrill5889]

Because threats aren't "doing something"?! That's still illegal!

[@ona512]

there needs to be like, a better list of people to call for this shit

[@TheGrimbler]

​@@iandaughdrill5889 It only isn't doing something unless it is directed towards a cop

[@iandaughdrill5889]

@@TheGrimbler took me a bit to make put what that said but yeah

[@7PMNewz]

My favorite #CopMoment is when a cop from my town called in that two men with guns were attacking him. The cop was found dead, and my school had to go on lockdown until 7:00-ish at night, multiple schools full of young children fearing for their lives. The town (and National News for some reason) we’re full of hero worship for this man. Cops from all over the US drove out to have a fucking parade in his memory. Turns out the cop actually… offed himself… because he was laundering money (and maybe was cheating on his wife). Because it’s a majority white town, the very few black adults around here were pulled over MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY. My dad works for the state fish and wildlife service, and they had a guy apply for a job who used to be a cop in Chicago. He didn’t get the job because there was an incident where he SHOT AT SOMEONE while he was off duty because said guy had a habit of purposely slamming on the breaks in front of people on the road, because all cops have no feelings.

[@emory6027]

personally, if there's anything i've learned about true crime, it's that cops are incompetent. also i know how an innocent person would act in an interrogation room, so that's neat

[@bees5114]

yup which is kinda y i like jcs so much. he shows what they do for a living and makes it really clear he knows you should never talk to cops

[@mizzkittenttv]

It's so frustrating hearing how many lives could have been saved if it weren't for police incompetence

[@atomichearts9332]

honestly it’s disgusting how many cases you can look at that specifically cite police mishandling as the reason for a case going cold, getting botched, etc. and that’s just the ones we know about, who knows how many more people have been screwed over by lazy cops

[@gorillaguerillaDK]

No you don’t know that! You already made the same mistake a lot of cops makes - believing that you can tell the difference!

[@joearnold6881]

The innocent person in the interrogation room should act like this: “lawyer” That’s what I learned from true crime.

[@Aogami20]

I'm a cis white man who grew up in a middle class suburban neighborhood. I've had a lot of good experiences with police, I even considered becoming one at some point. Until I attended an inner city Boston public school. I was only there two weeks, and that experience was so awful that it irreparably changed my politics with regard to race, policing, schools, and crime in general. Police suck ass, ESPECIALLY when they have to go and do the things people generally associate with policing - protecting civilians and investigating crime. What they DO do well, is beating up black people for no reason, intimidation of the public, and enforcing private property by acting as tax funded security guards for the wealthy.

[@CloudyOrchards]

Ive actually never considered the abuse behind the canine units, thsts another layer to consider. Think it's wild how all cops have to do is show their gear, which is mostly tools of violence, and people on tik tok are into it.... Like, TOO into it. Or the slightest "UwU am just a lil guy, just a friendly lil cop, pls love me" has people sobbing at their feet. It's wacky

[@CJMGalaxy]

I'm a dog groomer and I used to do a police dog. Working with him is how I realized that police canine programs are abusive as fuck. That dog was so intensely traumatized, and that's by design - they train them by traumatizing them.

[@violet7773]

TW: animal deaths Apparently most police dogs who die on the job are killed by cops. They're trained to go after aggressive criminals; they see the cop being an aggressive criminal and try to stop them and the cop lashes out

[@egg4666]

Same, the idea of training and sending them off to attack criminals just never struck me as odd until recently. Even with knowing how much they kill household pets. And that's not even getting into friendly fire.

[@DeathnoteBB]

For real, I don’t think I ever really trusted cops and I’m white-passing and afab… I just don’t trust someone with that much authority and power, who also has deadly weapons they can choose to discharge whenever they want.

[@mynamejeff3545]

Almost all police dogs have to be euthanized after "service" because they are too traumatized to live a normal life, and have been trained to be a danger to every animal and human nearby, except its former handler. It's animal abuse, plain and simple. Police dogs are pure cruelty used for the sole purpose of "outsourcing" violence to an innocent animal which, by nature, cannot understand words such as "I'm innocent" or "please stop, you're hurting me". They will just keep attacking whenether you're complying or not (which is rather hard to do while a dog is tearing at your flesh), and due to their training which rewards agression above all else have trouble letting go even when handlers command it. Dogs aren't used to catch criminals who run away like in Paw Patrol: they are used for intimidation first and foremost, and to blindly attack people who are in cops' reach. Ban the use of animals by cops, whenether it's dogs or horses. They are used as tools of violence and opression, at the cost of the animal's mental and physical wellbeing.

[@ethanisonline]

sorry guys i had to mute a section around 13 minutes in for copyright!

[@ashwalkerthisway7094]

I was so confused, I rewound because I thought my phone was glitching out haha. Luckily I was also scrolling thru the comments

[@judithkim4050]

ok definitely thought I was going crazy lol

[@MetaphoricalSatanist]

You should pin your comment so more people can see it. I had to scroll SO FAR DOWN because your comment only has about 100 likes (as of me posting this comment), while the "Top Comments" has THOUSANDS. Just some friendly advice.

[@tomatobooksentertainment8376]

ok

[@Oliviaandtrina]

One of my worst experiences with police was when my abusive dad was beating on my brother, I finally called the cops. When the cops arrived my dad freaked out at the door and charged at then pushing them out of the house. After he spoke with them, they allowed him to just "leave and cool off". They didn't ask to speak to or see ANYONE else in the house. We could have all been dying behind the door, they didn't even look in the house or ask us to come out. Since my dad was allowed to leave he just showed up at my school later, and pulled me out to get angry at me for calling. That was not the first time we called the cops, but it certainly was the last. It never did any good, and always made things worse.

[@juratory8876]

I'm a Black woman and I have had nothing but positive experiences with law enforcement. The last time we had the cops called over was in 2012 (I was 14 at the time) to help my mother and I remove a black rat snake that had slithered out from the laundry room in our basement. The cops were very kind and collected, and one of them gave me a piece of the snake's dead skin as a sort of memento from what happened that day. However, I know that just because they were nice to me specifically doesn't mean that they gave other Black women or Black people in general that they encountered that same treatment. The older I got, the more I realized that the narrative of the "nice cop" was complete bullshit, given that they will be nice to you personally, and then turn around and bodyslam and permanently injure someone for something as minor as jaywalking. Or even worse. There is no such thing as a "good" or "nice" cops in my eyes now.

[@salemcrow5078]

I'm glad to find someone else poc who never had a bad experience with cops. I always feel so confused and left out of the discussion because I've never experienced it, and no one really ever tries to explain it because they assume you already know

[@CarsonBobarson]

So, what you're saying is that every single police officer is bad and racist because of something most of them would not do? Yeah, you know that there are black people who are cops too? Are they racist to themselves? Sure, there are some bad cops, that's like saying all men or women are bad. In reality, it's a very small percentage.

[@devilsadvocate9105]

When your sense of justice is based off of how much you like an indvidual their is no justice. A cop will dictate within the first few seconds of seeing you how they intend to treat you and their is a tiny window of opportunity to make your own impression. I was detained for being drunk and causing a scene. When I sobered up I asked to be booked in immediately. I asked for several hours I asked everyone to the point a receptionist asked me to stop asking. I had very little sense of time but I had been their for at least half a day. Half of it blacked out from alchol but a good 5-6 hours asking if they were ready to process me and that I just wanted to go home. I remember crying waiting for food they practically threw at me, they left the slot open the second time they brought food so I just stared at the light beaming on the wall,, reassured that their was natural light coming from somewhere. My depression was running me ragged at this point so I crawled into a corner so I couldn't see anything but the wall and let my imagination replace my eyes this consumed half of my conscious hours. I spoke to many different police officers. It was obvious none of them knew I wasmt booked in as each one I spoke to was surprised to hear it but the same cop never came by me twice and eventually they stopped coming by at all. Finally someone asked if I wanted to speak to a lawyer I should have said yes but I simply asked to be processed. He also never returned. Finally I overheard an innmate asking for mental health. I broke down crying and asked to see mental health as well.... THAT is what finally got them to put me in the system. P.s. if I had spoken to the lawyer the entire precinct would have gotten in a lot of trouble

[@Ghost_Token]

I’ve also always been treated well by cops even as a queer, trans disabled person but I realized that when I was 12 and lost in a Walmart that the cops aren’t going to be mad at me or treat me abusively when I truly have don’t nothing wrong and just want to find my mom in a big grocery store. I’m privileged in the way that I’ve never had a mental emergency (in public), been physically abused or SAed, situations where cops are notoriously unprepared for.

[@MyBinaryLife]

so you havent had a police encounter in a decade, when you were a child, and you think you have room to talk about how they act? wow

[@batsonthebelfry]

my friend called the cops because i had a mental health emergency and these cops were assholes when i didn't want to give him my phone, he threatened to send me to jail. them being there triggered a panic attack and it didn't help that they were super gruff and aggressive. i was terrified.

[@memequern8087]

Same. They also told me my mom didn't want me in the house and that it was better if I just followed them to the asylum. I only found out later that my mom never told them that and they where just trying to guilt me into cooperating

[@Nocturnalux]

A while back, a black man called the cops because his friend was having some kind of maniac episode. The cops shot his friend dead. A bunch of armed men were too afraid of an unarmed man that they had to fill him with bullets. And the saddest thing is, I bet if you look this story, you will find more than one.

[@boyisbored6421]

I will say, I've had cops and other emergency services called on me for both mental and physical issues and its always been: cops scary, ambulance folks nice, very good at asking about pronouns, firefighters super chill (when the danger was taken care of)

[@SallyBerry9]

​@@boyisbored6421 My aunt is a paramedic with the UK ambulances and she's said that her and her colleagues hope to get to a scene before the police all because the police end up causing more damage, more trauma, and get in the way. While Firefighters are super helpful

[@gordonramsayslambsauce]

@@SallyBerry9 yes. in case of a mental health emergency, ALWAYS call a social worker or the fire department (the difference being that the social worker doesn't have to have permission to come into your house during an emergency while a firefighter does).

[@Slt4FixtionalMen]

I had to report a sexual assault to the police once. I was 12. It was at a middle school Halloween party. He was my first crush, “first” kiss, and they charged him still with only sexual harassment for the fact, it was only “oral” and not another thing further, cause he didn’t strip me nor well…. Point made. And quite another bizzare thing was the words I remember my own mother saying after I came out of the dance, sobbing and barely breathing, “Did he actually touch you or did it only feel like it? Cause that’s a very harsh accusation…” and just…. I dunno. ACAB.

[@jordanm2936]

“people wanna be friends with me until they realize i’m an insufferable psychopath and also racist. why is that a dealbreaker for people?” i’m cryingggg ethan

[@texcritters]

thank you for calling out cop bullshit. i knew a cop who lived in my childhood neighborhood who shot his wife, i’ve been harassed by cops for being autistic & missing social cues during questioning, and many of my friends have been harmed by cops as well. cops have never helped me or prevented me from being hurt. they are pathetic excuses for “defenders of the public.” im glad to know a creator i enjoy watching agrees with me on this ❤

[@rexman971]

I feel you, I try to avoid them but unfortunately they make their traffic stops routine so they can invade your privacy and harrass you for being different all for nothing. It's disgusting

[@huh7270]

Bro it’s so easy to leave them alone. Maybe it’s just the town I live in but they don’t seem to be bad people. There was a drunk guy that came into Taco Bell once while I was working so they called the cops and the cop came in and asked a few questions and left which all he could do considering the guy left already. What are you doing that they bug you so much? If you have that much evidence to support your opinion that cops are bad then maybe ask yourself, “why am I always having interactions with them?” because you shouldn’t be.

[@thatrantinggirl7376]

@@huh7270 this is so icky and victim blamey

[@huh7270]

@@thatrantinggirl7376 not really. It’s just simple self evaluation. It’s what helps us grow as people. And I’m not saying it’s their fault I’m just wondering why they seem to be in so many altercations with the authorities. Just trying to see the bigger picture. Like most people should.

[@thatrantinggirl7376]

@@huh7270 No it definitely is, fact of the matter is that you don't know them so you can't ask them to self evaluate anything. They know their situation better than you do and and implying that someone did something to deserve to be hurt by cops is gross

[@blackivy7582]

I'm Native American mixed, and got pulled over coming home from high school once after stopping by my grandmother's house to help her move some things first. The lady followed me for several miles without turning on her lights and then finally hit them at a red light. She approached my car with her gun drawn, and demanded my wallet. I gave it to her and then she told me to pull into a parking lot. I did so, and she called 3 OTHER COP CARS to cage my car in. 3 other officers all were around my car with their guns aimed at me while my hands were out my open window and I was sobbing. My father, who is white, was on his way home from work passed this and stopped. He asked what was going on(they hadn't told me anything and just yelled at me to shut up when I asked) and they told him they got reports that the car I was driving was stolen. My father informed them that the car was in fact mine, that I had saved all my money from my first job to buy it, and produced the paperwork for them(he kept copies in his Jeep in case something happened to the originals in my car). They took a look at it and then waited another 30 minutes before putting their guns away. I had left school at 3, and my grandmother's house at 3:45. I didn't get home until 7pm. My father ended up having to call my brother to come get his jeep so he could drive me home because I was having a breakdown. My parents were later told they drew guns on me because I was "posing a danger". I was a 16 year old, 5 feet tall, less than 100 pounds Native American child who was afraid for their life and was still buckled in their seatbelt with my trembling hands stuck out an open window while having a breakdown. Edit explanation: I am 3/4 Native. My father is 1/4 Native and my mother is full blooded. I have a darker complexion similar to my mother, my father is lighter in skin color and mostly white passing.

[@cinnamon3784]

I'm so sorry that happened to you I'm glad that they didn't actually shoot you ACAB

[@lemon93]

Just wanna say I had the exact same thing with caging my car in for a bloody head light out and I was heading home from work.

[@ohioella]

i'm majoring in criminology and this video goes so hard, this is a condensed version of so many of my classes. it's insane to me how much data exists and is insanely easy for people to access yet they STILL don't get it. people just can't comprehend a world without cops. acab

[@DeathnoteBB]

Propaganda is a powerful tool, sadly. I also can’t grasp how people can be so ignorant yet have all the data at their fingertips. I can only imagine copaganda is just that pervasive

[@agentpaper8130]

Yea the justice system in the US and some other places is broken and needs fixed but getting rid of cops isn't the answer. We need cops but we need them to actually do their jobs effectively. Getting rid of cops doesn't get rid of all of the bad people.

[@gordonramsayslambsauce]

@@agentpaper8130 We need a new system. The police system was built on the foundation of racism, homophobic, transphobia, xenophobia, and ableism. We can't continue with our current system because it was never reformed once its public goal changed (public goal: serve and protect. actual goal: serve and protect whoever we feel like serving and protecting). It's not about having no police system whatsoever, it's about reforming/recreating the one we currently do have.

[@agentpaper8130]

@@gordonramsayslambsauce Oh yea I was talking about reform for the system. Maybe I did misunderstand one thing though, I was under the assumption they meant no cops at all. The system needs to be worked but entropy is not the answer in my opinion.

[@gordonramsayslambsauce]

@@agentpaper8130 Yeah. We need to completely destroy what we currently have and rebuild it so we can effectively prevent and deal with crime

[@basementdwellercosplay]

We talked about police in my sociology class and the teacher gave studies and polls of how bad police are and one pro police kid just said,"no they aren't!". Our teacher was going to fight him but you could tell he was like,"um did you not see my presentation and notes?"

[@joearnold6881]

Your teacher should have fought him.

[@Chloelol]

GIGACHAD teacher

[@rexman971]

Back the blue till it happens to you unfortunately for these fools

[@tines_de]

What type of school teaches that?

[@nunpho]

@@tines_de what, teaching facts?

[@mosswellmullet8134]

Right after my roommate's mother passed away, like literally as they were loading the ambulance with her corpse, The cops were searching my roommates house and "confiscating contraband". This contraband included many antique guns and water pipes. All of the pipes would have gone for about 200 to $300 on eBay and the guns triple that. It's super common with the police force in my town.

[@noelvaldez96]

I had a guy tell me that when he got pulled over for speeding the guy gave him a police escort because he told him he had an emergency at the hospital. He was white. My aunt was in the hospital for cancer, and there was an emergency where we thought she was gonna die. So my family got into the car and speed to the hospital. We got pulled over and the cop almost arrested my Dad because my Dad was upset that the cop didn’t let him go after he told him why he was speeding. He kept us there for a long ass time arguing. Then took a long ass time in his car. When he finally came out with the ticket he then lectured my Dad on why speeding is dangerous, and that’s why he wrote the ticket and he should be grateful that he didn’t arrest him. We are brown.

[@domjoannou8516]

Was this the same cop?

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@domjoannou8516 Did these things not happen if it’s a different cop or something?

[@domjoannou8516]

@@DeathnoteBB yes it does because unless it's the same cop no proof it was because of race

[@domjoannou8516]

@Emma Stofferahn not really proof that cop was doing it because they were racist also who did these studies

[@gordonramsayslambsauce]

@@domjoannou8516 yall really hear a poc talking about how they observe white privilege every day and still have the audacity to go "proof?" to try and shut them down

[@Squishy876]

The "thin blue line" patch is such a red flag! There shouldn't be anything between us and cops, they're literally supposed to serve and protect the people

[@ethanstump]

As it is colloquially called the cowards swastika.

[@Slt4FixtionalMen]

“There are no ‘good’ cops for the second a ‘bad’ cop messes up, either harming someone or doing something corrupt, and the ‘good’ cop stays? They are no longer a ‘good’ cop, they are an accomplice.”

[@hogenthusiast8468]

As somebody Who went through a traumatic experience that still affects me years later where the cops only shrugged and left again: I felt a lot less alone when you mentioned this reaction being normal.

[@domjoannou8516]

I mean what are they supposed to do in that situation?

[@gurneyqueen5782]

@@domjoannou8516 you know sucking off pigs is beastiality right?

[@ro_pp]

cops suck!! i love your name btw

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@domjoannou8516 Their supposed fucking job, maybe? Are you serious?

[@domjoannou8516]

@@DeathnoteBB they aren't therapist that's not their job

[@Bluepoppy86]

As a POC this was soooooooo validating to listen to…. And also very painful. Thank you Ethan for standing up for us.

[@anteros_21]

1:14 my grandma was severely abused regularly by her ex husband. one time, when my grandma was bleeding horribly, bruised, practically beaten to a pulp, the cops were called. my mom says she remembers them joking and chatting with her dad while my grandma was being interrogated and asked "what she was doing to deserve this." smh fuck the justice system.

[@watermelon..]

what the actual fuck. that’s so fucking pathetic of those dumb cop fucks. what a sad excuse of a justice system. i hope your grandma somehow recovered from those evil police morons and her ex husband. excuse my language but holy shit i lose faith in humanity every time i read one of these stories. i am so so sorry for your grandma

[@eromnis]

I can’t with this crap anymore. Whenever I see a Punisher skull with a thin blue line on a cop’s car (I work in a big cop neighborhood) I want to scream. And just so you understand how much faith a cop town has in its cops, they boarded up everything during the BLM protests even the lumber store. This town was 15 miles away from the protests

[@domjoannou8516]

Um you know a full town of cops isn't enough to stop a protest of like a thousand people without violence which would just lead to more protests so it makes more sense to just board everything up

[@DeathnoteBB]

The Punisher is literally a vigilante who became one after seeing how the police and justice system fail to do their job

[@gaminikokawalage7124]

@@DeathnoteBB pretty sure there was a comic where cops were adopting the punisher logo and the the punisher basically threatened to kill them if they decided to start acting like him

[@unHolyEvelyn]

Bruh isn't Punisher a vigilante who works outside of the law 😂😂😂

[@chocomelo454]

isn't the punisher a parody of cops? and judge dreads is a parody of the justice system?

[@greyisnthere]

I can't stop thinking about that "are there any good cops" vine where the sleeping cop rolled over to reveal a sign that said racism bad and they immediately fawned over him

[@charliedeegan1598]

They praise the bare minimum so much. 😭

[@LacroixboiMarx]

I mean, there is only one good kind of cop, but I can’t type it.

[@TheEepyMagi]

@@charliedeegan1598 it was ironic, making fun of those who defend cops using "not ALL cops are racist!!!!!!"

[@donalddarko5807]

@@LacroixboiMarx JPEGMAFIA Type Beat

[@demetria-n]

@@LacroixboiMarx The only good cops aren't cops anymore :(

[@thegreatopotato2719]

being anti-vax and "pro-life". do they not see the irony?

[@everfluctuating]

cops (the tv show) actually came back. i guess they canceled it for the obvious controversy in summer of 2020 but once general opinion went back to "some cops are ok, we need cops" they brought it back

[@yellobb3848]

I took so much psychic damage when the white cop put his finger down for being called a racial slur 💀 was it cracker or colonizer that was your breaking point?

[@kay-og4rv]

No purpose flour ass 💀

[@Megan-cd6sh]

Macey, I couldn't agree more. And imagine having the audacity to do it right next to a poc. Poor little white guy, somebody picked on him. Makes me sick.

[@VoidRep]

honestly could have even been the N word... which is... still just harmful to black people, even if its said to a white person

[@yotsuyuyagiyama2443]

Or maybe it was snow roach or salt shaker 😩

[@mikoi7472]

So racism is okay when it's towards white people? Weird how we can't just have this standard of racism is bad overall. You fucking idiots.

[@Adry-pe4qy]

Every time I see one of these stupid tik toks, it takes me back to the time I attempted, the cops were called on me by my friend who was worried. All they did was make fun of me, laugh at me, and aggressively throw me around which they excused by saying they were just, “looking for anymore drugs I could’ve had on me”. It’s something I’ll never forget and never forgive, police treat people with mental health issues like the scum at the bottom of their boots and I’m sick of it.

[@iandaughdrill5889]

Everyone treats us like this, because it's easier than actually helping. Cops just have the power to do it with no consequences.

[@gh0stgarbage]

Fun fact, I had a classmate who had to shoot her own dog because her dad abused them so they bit him. She would’ve rehomed them because they were a good dog outside of trauma but her uncle is a cop and was there purposefully watching them to make sure they killed an innocent animal.

[@unHolyEvelyn]

I'm so sorry for her, I hope she's cut ties with them. Not that I expect you to know, if they were just a classmate and not a friend.

[@comcat8524]

Cops are fucking monsters. 40%

[@calyx5678]

People who think those cop thirst traps are hot need to get into the kink and roleplay scene or something and stop giving attention to people who carry like 5 actual weapons on them all the time and use them routinely against minorities also an extra point of disgust for me about this is how many cops are accused r*pists and how big r*pe jokes are in police stations, prison guards etc..like while it may be hot to you bc you have a thing for size or something it's hot to the guy filming bc he likes the idea of flexing his very real power over people who can do nothing about it and bc he thinks its cool to carry a loaded gun on his hip while doing it..like do yall not see the issue here?

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

I got arrested for “trespassing” while waiting for my bus at age 15, I was absolutely terrified because the cop I was stuck with was making grunting noises and slowing down the car to look at women’s asses. All I could think was I was being kidnapped by a pervert. Thankfully all he did was scream at, verbally abuse, and make fun of me.

[@gypsylee333]

I mean I like uniforms but I am just banging a hot firefighter instead 🤷🏼‍♀️ omg he so fine guys I might just keep him lol... And he has a couple uniforms that are quite similar to a cops, we can buy our own handcuffs 😂

[@calyx5678]

@@PamsPrettyPlants God that sucks, glad you got out of it ok!

[@TheEepyMagi]

There's a reason why one of the common mental images of male strippers in today's zeitgeist is of a skimpy cop costume. They need to stop drooling over racist class traitors and just go to a gay bar jfc.

[@nootnewt9323]

Once knew someone with a cop fetish. As a black person it made me very uncomfortable so I never spoke to that person again lol

[@killergrooves2438]

This got recommended to me after the Texas school shooting. The one where the cops stood around doing nothing and pepper sprayed a parent trying to rush in and save their kid because the cops dod nothing.

[@peekabee502]

I live in the heart of Louisville and saw nothing but police brutality during the Breanna Taylor protests. It was really eye opening to know that some weirdos can have full authority over a person unprovoked and 99% of the time get away with it but yeah give them more money for military grade equipment 🙈🙈🙈

[@theronsmith3303]

I’m not from there but I had friends there that were brutalized during that time. #breeway✊🏾

[@DeathnoteBB]

And a gross amount of people will STILL side with the cops. It makes me fucking furious. All a cop has to do is set their own (already damaged) vehicle on fire and the general public blames the protestors

[@amelia3146]

I’m originally from Louisville (although almost all my family still lives there). I moved away for university & hadn’t really been back since then-in fact, I live in a different country now-but I visited briefly a couple years ago and it was *surreal*. The unabashed violence from the police in the streets was astounding and terrifying. You can read about it, hear about it, see all the videos…but none of it really shows how angry, aggressive, smug, and manic they really seem until you’re there in the protests, facing them. I agree that it was really eye opening; it was like an entirely different Louisville than the one I’d left no more than three years prior.

[@unHolyEvelyn]

The problem isn't that they're causing destruction, it's that they don't have the money to cause MORE destruction!

[@mobiusstripper7279]

10:00 "Yeah that cop that completely riddled that disabled man in a wheelchair on camera for being suspected of theft was fine, but the second you allegedly arrested that girl for not wearing a mask? That's what _shattered_ the thin blue line for me. "

[@CarsonBobarson]

"Allegedly" doesn't necessarily mean it happened.

[@hopefullyentertainment6029]

im glad you mentioned the injustices with dogs getting shot, almost happened to our dog, and for a second we thought it did. let me tell you i will never forget how my heart dropped. she was really traumatized by the event and actively panics and gets scared when police or even men who look threatening enter out house :(

[@jakthesac5175]

Putting the babies in police costumes onscreen for the police apologist moment is the most accurate thing and best way to sort out police defenders. Bc almost all of them are so insecure in their masculinity that they can’t take a joke and will bail immediately

[@jakthesac5175]

My friends were harassed by a former friend to the point where they felt unsafe in his presence, and then he started guilt tripping their 12 ur old sister about how she shouldn’t have said anything. They had screenshots, call receipts, and half of it happened in person. The cops basically told the, to fuck off. So if you can’t tell, I’m very anti cops atm lmao

[@theclockman775]

mb i’m responding 1 year later lol, but imo it’s also pretty immature, responding to the other side with just “you’re a police apologist baby! lol!” is just kinda like, weird

[@grandtwhite8254]

I was gonna say something about this, I actually want Ethan to leave babies and kids alone stop comparing murderers to them. There are plenty of accurate and funny insults of conservatives and cops and Ethan should maybe stop you know, comparing horrible assholes to babies and children.

[@Ashcashfain]

We all have a cop problem...they exist.

[@crystalrose4562]

this

[@kasketbase8741]

Facts! 👏👏 The world would be alot safer under violence and chaos from non-cops!

[@darkred1438]

@@kasketbase8741 yea we would. i would trust my local crackhead over a cop. at least the crackhead won't faint from touching a bag with fentanyl lmfao

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

1:35 This man is legally allowed to murder you without consequences. Just... let that sink in.

[@AliciaMajo]

Hey that's me! I'm a victim of sexual assaults (yeah plural), and just got a good "well you accepted that grown man's alcohol, even tho you were 16 :) " Or the famous "Sure he violently s/a'd you, but you felt bad for him for spending his birthday alone, and you let that man you trusted into your apartment :D"

[@ps1hagrid786]

So sorry that happened. I hope you're healing and that they're set on fire. including those pathetic excuses for cops.

[@AliciaMajo]

@@ps1hagrid786 Thank you so much Hagrid, I am slowly healing, and my partner found a really good lawyer who specialises in those cases. So we're not going to let them get away with it. It means a lot that you care, use your umbrella carefully and I hope all your creatures are doing great and so are you. :)

[@Nocturnalux]

When I was 15 I was groped by a grownup back before two cops who saw it happen. When I said something, they laughed at me and took the guy’s side. Apparently, they decided I had it coming for being “snotty” as I attended a private school. Yeah. What happened you is utterly unacceptable.

[@AliciaMajo]

@@Nocturnalux I am so sorry you went through that, that shouldn't ever happen and I hope you're recovering. Coincidentally I was also at a private school when this happened to me. And the police degraded (the whole what were you wearing). But it was assault, and you were a child, it's unforgivable ×2. Stay strong, you've survived so far through so much pain, I hope you're happier now. I'm here if you need me.

[@unHolyEvelyn]

To put it into perspective, in case there's someone here that doesn't get it somehow: "Hey, you, a minor, trusted an adult who got you drunk and sexually violated you, so really it's YOUR fault!" And: "Hey, you chose to trust that man after he manipulated your emotions, and even though you never said you wanted to have sex with him, you're still at fault even though you didn't give consent!" This is why cops are useless.

[@PBthesquirrel]

Cops are so insensitive (I could stop the sentence here) to animals. I was in a car accident on the way back from the vet with my cat in the passenger seat. It was a hot Florida summer day and my cat has all black fur. I asked if I could put my cat carrier in the back in the police car (that already had the AC blasting) bc she was overheating. Her tongue was out and she was panting; I was starting to really worry. He responded with, "can it wait?" Said almost as a statement. He already had a grudge against me bc he knew the other driver, so I had to be careful, yet assertive: "I'm sorry, sir, but she really can't wait. She's already panting and it's so sunny. Can I please just set her in the back of your vehicle?" And I started walking to his car. He begrudgingly acquiesced. Of course I then had to flood his dopemine receptors with a bunch of thanks for helping my cat and blah blah blah... It sucks that we have to fear asking a police officer for such a simple request, and that's a day-to-day behavior for them. I'm tearing up just writing this.

[@ona512]

talking to abusive people is like having to balance a sanity meter in Eternal Darkness. up and down and down more because they just looked at you. Xel'lotath save us all

[@Me-iq4se]

"Acab but y'all seem cool" it's *A*cab. ALL COPS. DO NOT MAKE EXCEPTIONS THAT'S THE POINT

[@unownyoutuber9049]

SEE NO SHADES OF GRAY! EVERYTHING THAT DISAGREES WITH MY WORLD VEIW IS UNTRUE AND MUST BE DESTROYED! an argument shared by both radical right and left wingers.

[@hannahdavis4256]

Quick little personal rant about cops and the overall American justice system. Trigger warnings for abuse (briefly mentioned), being shot, and overall cops and shitty America. I had two friends in an insanely abusive household. Multiple times they failed to get away from their parents. Well the cops were finally called for abuse and the mother (the father had been already arrested and charged due to lies the mother planned) was arrested. However, because she passed a lie detector test, she was let go. Not long after, she shot my friend and my friend died in the hospital during surgery. Only then was she arrested. Because the cops didn't care about all the signs, the abuse that the doctors noticed and the PTSD, because the school system didn't care, the judicial system didn't care, the therapy system didn't care, my friends died. (They were twins, the first took her life after a guy at her school found out she tried to tell on him for his advances and the teachers said he wouldn't do that because he was a "good kid.") The cops do nothing for those in abusive situations. If they had actually cared, my friend would be alive. America failed my friends and it's scary to think how many other situations like this happen. I've seen countless articles because nobody cares about the abused until the child dies. And cops are part of the problem, they're a big part of it. Also just seeing those images of cops literally had me saying "what kind of dystopian hell is this?" I can't believe this is so normalized. It's so terrifying honestly.

[@Megan-cd6sh]

Hannah, I am so sorry. Our system is so fundamentally wrong. These totally preventable losses are unacceptable, and again, I am so sorry.

[@DeathnoteBB]

It’s so depressing because the system is only as good as the worst people in it. So many people get help but if you live in the wrong place, nobody gives two shits about you.

[@gordonramsayslambsauce]

@@DeathnoteBB Even if you live in the right place but "look wrong" nobody gives two shits about you

[@emmabrandel9870]

I agree with everything you said, but I'd like to also point out that JCS and other JCS-inspired content is actually very often anti-cop, since it shows how cops can manipulate innocent people using interrogation tactics. a lot of these channels actually teach the average person how to not be manipulated, and which police tactics are manipulative vs. not. of course there are probably similar channels that promote police interrogation tactics, but I wanted to bring up that I've seen the opposite views on the channels I watch.

[@daveshif2514]

Ya tbh all the true crime i watch is pretty anti cop

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

Love JCS, it’s a study of how to run around police stupidity in the very least

[@demetria-n]

sneegsnag reacting to JCS is so blatantly anti-cop lolol

[@PirateKieren]

Was thinking the same thing

[@chocomelo454]

Explore with us seems to lean more towards pro-cop since they label signs of being anxious / neurodivergent as "suspicious" which is used by cops and they often praise the cops who are basically verbally torturing people who could very well be innocent (though I don't think a lot of these people are innocent if the evidence is substantial enough)

[@Astrolionking]

“I’m pro life and pro gun” Aka “I’m pro life but don’t care if a child dies from a shooting”

[@cinnamon3784]

exactly. Basically, "I'll force you to have a child you may not live through having, or may not be able to deal with financially, or any of that, but don't worry! They'll die before they graduate."

[@earthavi]

probably some folks in the comments still not fully aware of the extent of police violence and its roots, and for that i’d highly recommend the mini-series podcast “Behind the Police”. it gives a very thorough history of policing in America, up to present day involving police unions. there’s also a great episode from the podcast Creature Feature that explains the horrific history of police dogs, called “Stop using dogs as weapons”. thank you for this video, ethan. awesome job. 👍

[@spacecat7864]

Agree that everyone should listen to that podcast

[@TheOctavian316]

Robert Evans' one? So damn good.

[@joearnold6881]

Literally anything Robert Evans does (and also Katy Stoll and Cody Showdie!) should be on everyone’s listen/watch list

[@shmel3689]

Robert Evans did some more cool podcasts like Behind the Bastards. If you enjoyed Behind the Police check those out!

[@josephine1590]

I just don't understand hating on and generalising all the cops... some of them genuinely want to help people and change the world. I believe the larger issue is in the legal system overlooking the corruption, allowing nepotism, allowing sexists and racists to become cops. Ofc I am no expert and I'd love for someone to explain to me how ACAB isn't a harmful generalisation....

[@notanarsonist7574]

Honestly, cops really shouldn't have guns cuz maybe then they'd try learning a new move called: de-escalation

[@memeju1ce]

honestly the fact that police have funding for guns and shit but teachers have to pay for their students stationary is nuts

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

They are taught it in training. They choose not to use it.

[@domjoannou8516]

And when they get shot at what are they supposed to do then?

[@notanarsonist7574]

@@domjoannou8516 Believe it or not but a lot of situations where cops would get shot are usually time where they instigate or put pressure and fear in the suspect/s

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

@@notanarsonist7574 or shoot each other, which is also far more common than it should be 😂

[@v_eye_let_17]

Finally someone bringing up the fact using dogs in the police force is animal abuse. I’ve been saying that forever. It makes me sick when people thank the dead dogs for their “service” as if they had any choice.

[@randomtinypotatocried]

The cops ignored the harassment and abuse I dealt with. They purposely won't document those incidents. I'm now luckily in another state far away from my abusive family members. Working in EMS, I've had the cops we work with straight up threat to not help us in a dangerous situation if we dared wrote anything unfavorable in our patients' documents. This was literally my first week working in the city in EMS.

[@bariatric-parasite]

everything cops should do, social workers usually handle. if we had more cops go into social work, social workers would be less stressed and the ppl without empathy are weeded out

[@netty5170]

This is a great idea.

[@afxntini]

Y U P

[@domjoannou8516]

Um what are these things cops should do?

[@khodges72]

@@domjoannou8516 retire

[@domjoannou8516]

@@khodges72 great answer who's going to deal with criminals then

[@jasper37]

Let’s also talk about the severe abuse and mistreatment of police horses. Especially when used in riot squad, they are commonly killed or overworked to hell. I own an ex police horse and she has severe saddle scars and arthritis from being overworked

[@ToxicLemonsyeah]

poor thing, poor police horses in general, im sure she is living much better under your care

[@jasper37]

@@ToxicLemonsyeah she’s doing a lot better! She’s very old so only light riding but she’s so gentle and such a sweet girl

[@diversifiedplural6294]

Cosplayers will get their shit taken down for props but cops are posting automatics on tiktok and its fine

[@unHolyEvelyn]

TikTok is owned by a Chinese company, and if there's anything Chinese elitists love more than anything, it's authoritarianism.

[@eldritchteletubby9319]

The whole concept of police doing speeding stops is fucking wild to me. Like, we have things like Ez-Pass. Set up cameras that watch the road, and when the camera sees someone speeding, it can take a photo of the license plate and send it to a station. Move the cameras every so often. It's way cheaper, more reliable, and safer for both cops and drivers. It also prevents situations where someone is dealing with a medical emergency and has to stop to get pulled over, delaying treatment. Plus, it would eliminate bias if the cameras are focused only on the cars and not on the drivers. Like, am I missing something here? The only reason I can think of for cops to hang out on the roads is to keep people scared. I'm white, but very obviously trans, and I'm TERRIFIED every time I see a cop car. When I drive with my black friends, I drive 5 miles below the speed limit for their comfort and safety. Btw, wtf is a loitering charge? You can get arrested for standing around. It's mostly used on homeless people and large groups, but the concept that you could go to the side of the sidewalk to check your phone and just... Get arrested if a cop dislikes your face? For a group of people who support small government, wealthy white conservatives certainly like to have rules in place that don't apply to them.

[@rexman971]

Fn A! Traffic stops are just a gimmick

[@wanderingwriter1210]

yeah, it's just a pretense. cop apologists will point to the times when someone was caught for a much worse crime during a traffic stop, but in reality that mostly only happens because law enforcement somewhere else failed at their ostensible jobs. like, if it gets to the point where you only nab a serial killer because you happened to pull him over, that means the whole system is probably not working. (This might sound like a weirdly specific thing to bring up, but I have seen people make the argument that cops need to have random and widely-applicable reasons to stop and search people because they MIGHT catch someone who's actually hurting people.)

[@ps1hagrid786]

Tfw your third world country uses a more practical system than the US......

[@domjoannou8516]

It's more about having a presence on the street to detour crime and to be able to respond quicker to crimes unfortunately that doesn't seem to really work

[@Ashakat42]

We have those and they have been shown to be unconstitutional. You have to have an officer present to issue a ticket. Can you imagine the dystopia that your idea would actually unleash if it were sent through?

[@Baiileylynnhall]

I also want to make a note about homelessness and police. I’m 19, and I ended up homeless. With my time on the streets I realized how much regular people and cops Harass and assault homeless people. Like everyone is scared of homeless people and yeah some are dangerous, but way more often civilians will hurt homeless people, because cops don’t investigate deaths on the street, don’t take missing persons reports seriously AT ALL, and never ever ever believe homeless people/drug addicts. A couple weeks ago my close friend (also homeless) was sleeping and he woke up to a random guy cutting his feet, he didn’t have any shoes and couldn’t walk properly after. And of course it was a regular person who did it, completely unprovoked. I was in constant fear of being raped, trafficked, kidnapped, murdered etc, and knowing that the cops would not care if I was missing, because I was “probably just on a bender somewhere”. It’s horrible how fucked both police and civilians are to homeless people, and yeah some homeless people are horrible and dangerous, but that is seriously 1% of us. It’s stereotyping. It’s way more likely that a regular person or a cop is going to beat you or violate you, because no one would even begin to listen. I’ve never seen a homeless person in the news, unless of course they’re the fucked ones, I’ve had SO many friends and people I know die, and it’s often from overdose, but more than half of those deaths were violence that typically weren’t caused by people on the streets, it’s either regular people, cops or higher ups. Homeless people steal/deal drugs/prostitute or commit those kinds of crimes to survive, but the people pimping them out, or are higher up in the drug game etc, those are the people that society should usually be scared of. You shouldn’t be scared of people in poverty, you should be scared of the people that are rich off of the dirty money. Ok rant over byeeeeeee - also I’ve found housing and been sober from heroin for a year :)

[@Sodapatches]

Good for you!

[@Baiileylynnhall]

@@Sodapatches thank you!!

[@kalkxx]

the fact that the video with the cop “acting gay” had over ten million likes is so sad to me. it pisses me off when straight people force these gay stereotypes onto others and make it seem like all gay people act like that. of course there’s nothing wrong with acting like that, but forcing this stereotype is so harmful to the lgbtq+ community in so many ways, and straight people obviously will never see that :/

[@CarsonBobarson]

You ever heard of a joke?

[@kalkxx]

@@CarsonBobarson its not just a “joke” its a stereotype that a STRAIGHT person is making that harms an entire community. also jokes are supposed to be funny lmao

[@CarsonBobarson]

@@kalkxx Pretty homophobic of you to assume the poster is straight. What if they are gay and are making a joke about things that are considered “gay”?

[@kalkxx]

@@CarsonBobarson im literally gay LMAOO, and let me tell you that no gay person jokes around like that. he was obviously a straight guy being homophobic, but im not gonna argue with u anymore tho because its gonna go nowhere. based off of ur responses im gonna assume youre also just a straight guy who has no right to speak on something like this😭

[@skrunklycreationz]

@@CarsonBobarsoneven if that were true, do u think the millions who saw that were watching with that in mind? or do u think they just thought gay person funny

[@admiraldanger1419]

I'm seeing a lot of the kids I knew when I was younger who were absolute shit-shows becoming cops. They've wanted to be cops since they were little, and haven't grown up since then either.

[@DeepDiveLibrarianAl]

My god, sounds like my friend's cousin who defends cops through everything and became a cop. He is homophobic and slimy. Mid 20's cop with low maturity and respect, it worries me

[@NIHIL_EGO]

Why can't people like these just do like me and become NEETs 💀💀💀

[@abouttimeforarevolution241]

Cops are typically either former bullied kids who never learned to become interesting and well rounded adults who want to feel like they have lots of power and toughness in their jobs since they never went to therapy…. Cops. Then you have the lifelong bullies who eventually learned that they can continue to bully people on a daily basis still get to be the “good guy”..

[@DeepDiveLibrarianAl]

@@darcipeeps That is horrifying. So sorry for you and the people in their life

[@DeepDiveLibrarianAl]

@@darcipeeps Yeah that's true, a bit worrisome that the passion is misplaced

[@hungry.hungry.hippos]

THANK YOU for mentioning the drug dog margin of error. My mum gets stopped at the airport for the random security checks every single time we go because a drug dog came up to her once like 15 years ago. They completely searched her and everything and found nothing but it still happens.

[@ashtonisvibing4763]

cringe culture is dead, i truly believe that. but cops making tik toks trying to seem like your best friend/a thirst trap is peak cringe, no i will not apologize-

[@thebestcompletely9078]

I think something a lot of people seem to forget is cops do good things sometimes, but that doesn’t negate the horrors of the system and them as a whole. For example, there was a time when I was 14 I had the police called and it was determined I needed to go to the hospital, and when the ambulance came it was two male paramedics. I was super anxious around guys, especially two in an enclosed space, so a female cop joined us. I have had some positive experiences, but I’ve also had awful (I was sitting on the ground when they were called on me and they decided to pin my arm behind my back in an attempt to hurt me, and yes I had the cops called on me 7 times when I was 14, mostly for mental health reasons/running away) and I know it could be sm worse, I’ve seen so much awful stuff on the news and I know so much awful stuff. I know I had some good experiences (I’d say only like 2 of them were bad, 1 was good, and the rest were neutral) but I know how bad it is and I will never defend them unless there’s radical changes. And the statistic that 40% of cops abuse their families, and that’s a number reported from a surveys so likely a lot higher, speaks to the people ‘defending’ our streets.

[@iandaughdrill5889]

We need more female cops.

[@sleepinginmoss]

my dad (a white man) called the police on me when i was 13/14 for leaving the house wearing a skirt. The cop lectured me in the middle of the street for the entire neighborhood to see. he and my dad kept beating me down with "youre asking for it" type sht (I was molested and assaulted as a child lol, wasnt asking for it then). the skirt went past my thighs and wasnt even revealing. still really mad and humiliated

[@zebraloverbridget]

Police dogs are actually way worse than you think they are ethics wise. MOST police dogs are not properly trained to be in the situations they are forced into daily. Think just going around in the car or walking around when not pursuing someone. These dogs are not properly trained properly when young to be comfortable in everyday places so they end up extremely stressed out and are often reactive towards other dogs. So not only do police dogs put innocent animal's lives at risk but they're also constantly stressed out themselves. It is so bad that anyone with a service dogs knows to avoid police dogs like the plague because getting too close could get their service dog killed. All the other issues caused by using dogs that often don't release when told to as well as just the physical danger they're put in are still bad though. It's just that there are many more issues most people don't even recogize

[@Taolexa]

I have two dogs and it's so sad to hear or just imagine what police dogs must suffer for police purposes. I'm glad that Ethan touch on that subject and thanks for the extra info!

[@zebraloverbridget]

@@Taolexa No problem, it's a very relevant issue when you not only have a service dog but have also trained the dog yourself. Luckily other working dogs are treated much better and also don't pose as much of a risk to other dogs. Airport dogs are a good example as at worst they might get excited and want to play if they see a service dog. Or they will give a false signal to the handler after smelling the dog food and treats you have with you. Had that happen to my luggage on my last flight and it was super clear that they only looked in the front pouches where the dog food and treats were at since the inside was untouched lol. They Also won't force the airport dogs to go into areas with heavy traffic unless the handler knows that their dog is comfortable with it which is already way better than how police dogs are treated.

[@hailey8941]

One time a cop convention was held in my town and one of the cops was caught on camera beating his k-9. I’ve also seen plenty of other videos of them abusing their dogs.

[@casperg.8603]

Every time there’s a new report of a teenager being injured or shot by police my school does an announcement saying “Remember if a cop talks to you, speak clearly and calmly.” Like oh cool time for our yearly “How to not get shot” seminar

[@BettiePagan]

This is a really informative and well-constructed video though; we could have just laughed at cops being cringe (like they be 40+ hours a week ayyyy) but Ethan took the time to source a bunch of articles and statistics to develop this into something more impactful than a TikTok compilation. Many creators will jump on the 4C4B bandwagon (censored for…y’know) yet really gloss over the potential for something more informative where here Ethan really goes into the justification behind 4C4B and defunding. Really quality and well-researched content 🖤