TikTok's terrifying vegan teacher responded and I'm disturbed

that vegan teacher's reaction video is... yeah no
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[@DAngeloWallace]

her: you talked about me to gain followers me: 🧔🏼 Yes. speaking of which, follow me on twitch so you can catch my stream tomorrow at www.twitch.tv/dangelno

[@fayfalc21]

not to be obnoxious but- *FiRsT*

[@ira9234]

👋🏻

[@Warmupaccount-ef2cv]

reserved

[@creativename4222]

👋

[@zuubbiii]

our clout aware king

[@soliipsiism]

She preaches “treat animals like people” and then treats people like dirt

[@fizzliebob]

so she really wants us to treat animals like dirt ;)

[@kieranindahouuuseeee]

And she is also treating herself as dirt since she is a human.

[@danicarakic2270]

sooo true

[@adrianghandtchi1562]

In a very sing-songy passive aggressive way.

[@larkvonseggen6977]

my point exactly, it rubs me the wrong way that during the face of the black lives matter movement, she said "all lives matter" to pull attention away from gorge Floyd to herself being a "savior" to animals, if "all lives matter" she'd have no problem agreeing that the life of a meat eater matters too.

[@ghostie6190]

She is the personification of that one meme that says: "I can excuse racism but i draw the line at animal abuse" But even worse 💀💀

[@sethfortune230]

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[@spider_flash509]

Neither should be excused but she partakes in both 💀💀 edit: read it wrong op whoops

[@caleidozkopie8344]

@@spider_flash509 Thinking the exact same. Both of it is terrible.

[@tomasstephenson5357]

She britta’d being a vegan

[@alex-ie8ew]

Hahahahah that's Britta's quote

[@mst3kharris]

I’m just surprised she didn’t scold you for having “jello” in your name since gelatin isn’t vegan.

[@UmSureWhatever]

Not entirely true. There is fruit pectin and that's used a lot more now. Made from the fiber in different fruit.

[@brilliantnights4860]

Lol

[@youcanyoujustshouldnt3686]

Gelatin is actually vegan tho lol, unless you're getting some strange ones, bug to my knowledge gelatin is just algae and vegan ingredients

[@circo_]

@@youcanyoujustshouldnt3686 gelatin is literally ground up animal (usually pig) bones

[@periottt6896]

@@circo_ some jello are made from agar agar

[@celes-p]

The fact Gordon didn't even give her a verbal response, he just sat and quietly and ate his hamburger is probably the most savage way he could respond to someone like Vegan Teacher, someone so far beyond reasoning, you just gotta sit back and watch the dumpster fire.

[@catyelling7764]

then she said he supported the holocaust, she is truly a psycho

[@dashigriffins5310]

He did say 'vegan donut' but that was it

[@greatsongz1211]

Her mispronouncing your name has undertones I’m not a fan of

[@anthonytran141]

theres definitely racist undertones just from that

[@lluciassuarez]

@@anthonytran141 exactly, like its quite obvioously pronounced dee-ang-elo

[@emwatchesthings]

yeah, it’s not hard to research how to say a name before you say it online even if you have trouble with it

[@kateallan8930]

Sort of fits with her bullying racist style to intentionally mispronounce it doesn't it. She's just such a toxic person

[@lovelydeath04]

This 100%

[@pastelmatriarch1475]

This lady really just radiates that fake 'nice teacher' energy. She acts likes she's the kindest teacher in the school but then speaks to everyone in the most condescending voice and becomes the one whose class you dread the most.

[@concernednoiseo1909]

She acts like the health teacher I had in hs that was nothing but a bully. She straight-up called a girl I knew a floozy.

[@magpieinthelibrary5691]

This is bring back war flashbacks ew. Home ec teacher was like her.

[@nman551]

Those are the most annoying types of teacher.

[@Ashbrash1998]

Kinda like nurse ratchet

[@soulcstudios]

I was wondering why she reminded me of my worst Special Ed teacher.

[@oliviam2445]

“who claim they are oppressed” *me being called an illegal immigrant my whole life and being told im unintelligent and a drug dealer bc im hispanic* *me being called the f slur repeatedly bc im bi* *me being constantly demeaned for being assigned female at birth* yea, i’m the oppressor for supporting anti cruelty animal agriculture :)

[@blob8252]

To quote the great singer bo burnham: HEY! What a fucking idiot

[@randomuser8574]

I’m so sorry dude! are you ok? I’m so sorry that has happened to you. Your absolutely amazing, don’t change yourself for some bigot assholes.

[@woodgang9868]

Jeez that women is crazy

[@abcefg4504]

You can be oppressed while oppressing others. There is no cruelty free animal agriculture.

[@solarisjade2292]

@@abcefg4504 omfg

[@xhylianx8121]

So glad her tiktok account got taken down holy shit she's insane

[@queendio7520]

Bro it did? I don't have Tik Tok but I'm glad it did

[@minkisflowers8772]

I think she made another one-

[@joshcaldwell8523]

@@minkisflowers8772 she did...

[@minkisflowers8772]

@@joshcaldwell8523 ohno

[@javieraravena3972]

@@minkisflowers8772 oh shit

[@reti9768]

She's not promoting veganism, she's just manipulating her audience.

[@etherealkivfx]

period.

[@kennedyal1se]

PURR 💅🏽

[@Bayen737]

Genius

[@snickersruinedmylife8306]

PERIOD!!!

[@alsonio5216]

her manipulation game is strong

[@nervousbreakdown711]

“Those WHO CLAIM TO BE OPPRESSED” okay older white woman

[@eypu999]

Literally, so frustrating. It’s clear she’s a troll.

[@vally_mally]

@@eypu999 I don’t even think she’s a troll anymore. I honestly think that she believes everything that comes out of her mouth, which is so much worse than a troll

[@annme_87]

Older white woman who literally has the middle name Karen.

[@industrialalliance9905]

This this!!!

[@DarkShadic9632]

Correction: older STRAIGHT white woman

[@breadthealien]

"The honey industry" Bees will leave a hive if the conditions are not correct and up to their standards. Beekeepers will take extremely good care of their animals and no bees are harmed at all during the honey extraction process. Plus, bees can essentially free-roam everywhere as they usually would to find pollen and nectar to make honey.

[@sammerlammer3808]

Exactly! Honey is an animal cruelty free food 👏🏼 Beekeeping is an ancient and environmentally beneficial practice and I wish more vegans would buy and eat it! It's healthy for you and the planet

[@axolotlfairy2473]

In fact, a lot of alternatives to honey are WAY worse because they often rely on overworked/underpaid migrant labor Please bees and humans have a symbiotic relationship there's nothing wrong w honey. Out of all of the meat industries (which i WILL NOT DENY do have a lot of issues) honeys probably the safest one

[@reysquadron7820]

Exactly, a healthy hive produces enough extra honey so that more than 50% of the honey can be harvested with more than enough left for the honeybees for the winter. And the best hives are made with wild swarms, not the ones you can buy, which I wouldn't spend money on anyway.

[@thedotintheletteri]

Ikr! I get so annoyed whenever I hear people say that honey is a harmful product to gather. Bees are the only cash animal I know of that is ABLE TO LEAVE if it is unhappy with its situation. I’d be a beekeeper myself if I wasn’t so absolutely terrified of bees, I love them and would love to be around them every day. Too bad I freeze up whenever I hear one pass me while walking outside lmao

[@prismatica8416]

Sadly this isn't exactly true. In many companies that produce honey they'll de-wing the queens. The queens will be stuck and it will be impossible to leave the hive. If you care about that I'd buy locally, it's really only the huge producers that do it.

[@conroads2626]

"My friend died of malnutrition because of you" and she couldn't reply by giving an apology, funding his family, or even saying sorry for the loss. she said "what did he eat that killed him? you tried to force him to eat meat, yeah?" r/iamapieceofdonkey

[@nightmarehound]

Its because she's hardly actually sorry. I'm more guessing she's thrilled that she had that much power.

[@littlesaresare]

Regardless of how terrible this woman is, I'm pretty sure her sarcasm here is because it's not true. The "my friend went vegan and died" is a very very common made-up 'argument' from people who enter vegan communities and attack the members there. It stems from the stereotype that only meat has protein or iron, and therefore all vegetarians and vegans are weak and pale and dying of malnutrition. The fact that the commenter claimed he tried to feed his friend meat to save him, as opposed to literally any other nutritious substance, or take him to the hospital or call an ambulance or whatever, is a good indicator that the comment is one of these common nonsensical attacks on veganism itself, not on Vegan Teacher. You could go onto a harmless cooking blog with a vegan recipe on it and you'll see the same claims on there. I guarantee you that their friend didn't die.

[@conroads2626]

@@littlesaresare Everyone knows she isn't vegan though. She's using "vegan" to spread lies about the community and get clout.

[@Lee-ss8yj]

@@littlesaresare tbh we can't know if it's true or not. I went vegan without doing much research on it before and suffered from malnutrition as well, obviously not as severe as dying from it, but I felt weak and shitty all the time (nowadays I know what to eat to be healthy). It was linked to my ED since a lot of Pro Ana sites advertise veganism, without teaching how to actually get the nutritious you need. The sad reality is that a lot of people suffering from eating disorders will turn to veganism/vegetarianism because it's considered to be more healthy (less calories and fat) and allows you to justifiably cut out lot of foods. And their malnutrition gets linked to veganism/vegetarianism. The malnutrition doesn't come from veganism itself in this case, obviously. But if you don't know this person has an ED - for example - you will think the malnutrition comes from it. I sadly know someone who died from her ED. She was vegetarian and her parents claimed that it was what killed her, since they didn't know about her ED. Again, obviously her vegetarian die wasn't what killed her (at least on primarily, I can imagine it probably contributed), it was her ED, but for others who don't know it comes across like this.

[@misoasoda340]

Her response was disgusting and weird.. I do know that many ppl who struggle with food or body image reach to veganism and bc of that it, unfortunately, never works out which is why the diet gets so much backlash in western countries. And this crazy women is why the diet is becoming more hated lmao she’s the stereotypical vegan. It’s embarrassing.

[@sedef7696]

"you talked about me to gain followers." "yes." *that's a power move*

[@theofficialdislikebutton6766]

*Gained 2,000xp, 5,000,000 charm, and 100,000,000,000 respect*

[@Speaknow-l4c]

he is a power move

[@MarchionessDarby62]

By this woman’s “logic,” Hitler’s greatest crime was not the murder of 6 million Jews. It’s that he was vegetarian but not full vegan. I would bet $$$ that she would hold that view.

[@vinylizedtoxicity7149]

Underrated comment

[@elitepower4057]

Since she released a TikTok criticising Trump for not being a vegan, you'd probably win that bet

[@mariapopa1890]

@classy. not while in office ,but Clinton is now vegan as far as i know

[@sarahscott4618]

This was my first reaction yikes yikes yikes

[@piekazkout1620]

100% she absolutly does.

[@icecream-og5lt]

btw the whole concept that everyone MUST go vegan...is ableist

[@Katie-vz3mq]

Thank youuuu

[@lilly7156]

I don’t think that most vegans believe that everyone can or should go vegan. It all comes down to need, if you NEED animal products, can’t afford to go vegan, or don’t live in an area that has enough resources to eat a plant based diet, than eating animals and/or their products is justified. At the end of the day it’s a personal choice.

[@elliebagdasarain6473]

@@lilly7156 most of us just want yall to make conscious decisions about who you get your meat and dairy products from

[@amandaleggett]

It’s also classist af. Some of us live in food deserts and/or just have to eat whatever food we can afford.

[@icecream-og5lt]

@@lilly7156 I didn't say that every vegan belives that....

[@waffle1692]

This is like Dolores Umbridge but without the pink and cat obsession

[@bluewall1200]

Question. Doesn't her animal obsession count? It's close enought for me.

[@olivialucas823]

I dunno, I think Dolores looks like a saint compared to this bitch

[@reysquadron7820]

Excellent comparison!

[@hypxneon]

@@olivialucas823 YES. Dolores is the devil incarnate, until compared to miss Katie.

[@TheAnciix]

Vegans: we don't claim her LGBT: we don't claim her Humanity: we don't claim her

[@user-jc8by2wj8g]

@@achooblessu9501 why was my first thought the disney park

[@synsvids]

Satan: We don't claim her God: We don't claim her.

[@carolfromhr9900]

She isn’t even lgbt, she just uses that label to prevent people from criticizing her.

[@kimhedges4697]

Canadians: we don't claim her

[@bekkahsolomon8973]

Hell: We don’t want her. Take her back . . . PLEASE

[@justjulijack]

for being a vegan, homegirl likes to start a lot of beef

[@michelleobamafootcream9292]

lol

[@lt8494]

That was funny :)

[@littlewyzard]

pretty sure dangelo made the same joke twice in his last video lol still funny af

[@houseofbehr9983]

I choke on my pineapple reading this

[@yahainHotPink]

🤣🤣🤣😭😭

[@baileyblight3867]

Jesus christ, her comparing animal death to the holocaust and accusing Gordon Ramsey of MOCKING IT made me actually hide my face in shame. Like I was so embarrassed and overwhelmed by how this made me feel that I covered my face because I just couldn't deal with it. I'm gonna lose my entire mind, this woman needs HELP.

[@Cookiecat01]

Actually it's jewish scholars who first linked factory farming with the holocaust. For example an author Isaac Bashevis Singer is one of them. He actually himself lived during the holocaust, though he himself experienced it from the US, not from Europe. So it's not something that vegan teacher or even white vegans came up with.

[@Sofiloid]

Imagine actually having her as a teacher in high school. It gives me shivers to think about.

[@nocreativitylol6723]

fun fact, shes an actual elementary teacher..

[@yellowbentley]

@@nocreativitylol6723 that's really terrifying

[@ravengotica7493]

And I thought my German teacher was bad enough. So glad I didn’t have her as my teacher.

[@j0ely]

@@nocreativitylol6723 She probably stalks her students when they go get lunch to see what they'll be getting 🤣

[@callmehlena2204]

surprisingly, she was actually a teacher. Unsurprisingly, she got fired (for checking her students' snacks and not letting them eat it if it wasn't vegan). So.......... yeah

[@TheChocolatiie]

she's literally the embodiment of everything people criticise vegans for.

[@rach3092]

Y'know those people who you can't tell if they're a troll or not? Yeah, she's one of those for me! I'm certain now she's not a troll though.

[@realcade]

@@rach3092 yeah forsure I thought she was just a really good troll from the couple times I saw people memeing her but now I'm certain she is just fully unhinged

[@noobnoob8922]

God no. She's far from any annoying vegan I met on the internet. She seems she has gone off the deep end of that spectrum. Off her rocks that woman.

[@griffyt209]

final boss

[@miss_conduct.]

That's not why vegans get criticized. But because vegans force you to think about immorality of your actions (animal cruelty) that people don't want to hear about because otherwise they would need to change their lifestyle and come out of their ignorance. It's evident by "I like vegans who are chill" aka don't talk about animal cruelty with you. I'm glad he's making videos on her. It doesn't matter in what light you talk about vegans, just talking is enough to spark conversations. There are some useful ones about animal cruelty happening in these comment sections.

[@deomvii]

“I shook my fists at a nonexistent god”-that vegan teacher “God is vegan”-that vegan teacher

[@Blondezilla90]

THIS LMAOOOO

[@thatoneeggplant]

Also I think it’s funny that she says God is vegan when before Christ he required ANIMAL sacrifices lmaoo

[@trickytreyperfected1482]

@@thatoneeggplant remind me what Jesus supposedly gave to the people along side bread. I'm not religious so I may get this wrong, but I'm almost certain it was fish, right?

[@idislikemints]

@@trickytreyperfected1482 yes when ppl feast they can't eat meat, but there are days when you can eat fish because that's how it was depicted in the Bible.

[@TheDoomBlueShell]

@@thatoneeggplant Technic no, you could sacrifice plants too, but animal blood was necessary on some rituals and God send quails to be eaten by the Hebrews when they were on the desert, so like he is not vegan in any way shape or form

[@extremcorg7284]

She used “I can’t breathe” to make a song about pigs dying

[@magdalenat3424]

Well it's not like it's have been any better for the pigs and noone cares so kinda understand her frustration. I mean i know for some delusional peeps it is offensive to be compared to an animal, can't relate tho

[@Chris-et3xh]

@@magdalenat3424 Forcibly co-oping the systemic racist murder of a civilian WITH ANYTHING is the problem. You can voice your opinion. I even agree the meat industry is abusive, but stop trying to shift it to something else.

[@s_spiritstar]

Yeah I don’t like her blow at, “the virus didn’t come from tofu” cuz it basically screams, “it came from non vegans Asians who ate bats”. As an Asian person, I’m deeply offended. I don’t eat bats. Yes, I eat weird things, but I have morals. I don’t just rip animals from the sky and declare that my dinner.

[@crystalwings4520]

Seriously, is this the reason why she's calling us, the Asians, as 'oriental'? What a jerk. I am Asian as well, but I am personally triggered by the fact she said that we ate bats, yet in reality, most Asians didn't do that (I think). In my country (Indonesia), most of us does eat vegetables and fruits, yet we never called ourselves as 'vegans', because we also eating chicken as well. Some people couldn't buy cow meats or muttons because they're expensive.

[@pulatelephonics]

While I was born in America, my grandma on my mother’s side is Filipino and introduced me and my sister to a lot of interesting foods. Bats wasn’t one of them.

[@michaeldavis3596]

Yeah i don't believe the whole "Covid came from bats" thing it's stupid for all we know it could've Thanos snapped itself into existence

[@pulatelephonics]

@@michaeldavis3596 I mean let’s be honest that’s how a decent amount of things come into existence one way or another

[@Cookiecat01]

The funny thing that Asians have always been the pioneers of plant based foods for centuries.

[@koroconnell]

As an educator, I can confidently say this woman seems like she would be a truly terrible teacher. Condescending, uninformed, mean spirited, sensationalistic, fake. All things that impede profoundly on anyone's educational experience. Sorry sis, that's gonna be an F from me.

[@benhagood9591]

She seems like the teacher that would make u dread going to school

[@frogsmith9578]

I think she used to be a teacher and got fired.

[@dae8665]

She's exactly like the woman my HS hired as our health teacher. My hs health teacher was vegan and claimed that veganism cures all cancer She also liked to compare mcds to the holocaust and its like... yikes

[@80sgirl96]

@@frogsmith9578 This is what I am suspecting as well. I teach Kindergarten and just picturing her in a classroom absolutely horrifies me.

[@ayellowpapercrown6750]

She looks and sounds like my 5th grade math teacher who would notice me crying in the back of the class because I can’t count and forced me to come cry to the whiteboard

[@rebekaht9802]

Did no one realize in her response to Gordon she said ‘non existing god’ but she’s been preaching that God was a vegan? Plot holes

[@michelleokafor1268]

This... this comment is the one ⭐⭐⭐

[@bionicfrog694]

Jesus ate fish btw so even more plot holes

[@cs7811]

i was wondering about this because she’s talked about many religious things before

[@catglory1]

I’ve been on her TikTok page and saw a video she posted. In it she said she changes her religion everyday. So basically she is saying that she changes her religion to whichever one is most convenient at that point to help her tell you why you should be vegan I:

[@Fontel_]

More plot holes than naruto

[@ajwhitworth8803]

"Claim to be oppressed" Bro I get "speak English/AmErIcAn" literally every other day at work. I get "You'll never be a real man" so often I lost count. I literally had my life threatened over me existing. I am indeed claiming to be oppressed, and I have evidence to support the claim.

[@Isaidwhatisaiddear]

Someone needs to take that poor dog away, she’s being abused.

[@tinyspongebob]

The fact that she cried over Gordon Ramsay eating a hamburger, but then had a really disturbing tone talking about someone who died

[@Soteniliene]

Because she hates humans 😂

[@bananasinfrench]

"cares about all lives" my ass. If that's how she treats humans how does she expect us to believe she would treat animals any better lol

[@gillianlemke1546]

@@bananasinfrench i think, technically, forcing your omnivorous or carnivorous animals to be vegan is considered animal abuse, so there's proof she doesn't lol

[@dlzimbruceleritate]

​@@gillianlemke1546 i was disgusted by this person throughout the video, but forcing a dog to be vegan, sent me over the edge. Ok, like, she is a horrible misanthrope who doesn't care about humans, sure, good luck in life with that attitude, but she doesn't even care about her own dog. Like, if you can't bring yourself to feed it meet, just find it another home, jesus, i wonder how many cats she's killed with vegan diets

[@issym6117]

okay but u do realise that no one actually died right... ? the commenter was just taking the piss lol

[@kiaraf]

i can’t take her seriously when she keeps calling him “DaN-JeLLo!”

[@coolbagel2385]

Fr 😭✋🏻✋🏻

[@kdashh]

i just commented danjello please 😭

[@jasperrrwpng]

OMG saaaaame, I can't!

[@noobnoob8922]

Jello is not vegan. She played herself.

[@m3ltevery195]

its makes me pissed she mispronounced our lord and savior D'angelo's name

[@neruneri]

I've been a vegetarian for ten years, but that woman made me cringe so hard I accidentally started eating fish again.

[@destinyrexya]

You get a pass for that

[@justaghostinthesea]

Justified

[@tamakiamajiki5880]

8:18 I truly have no words. What the fuck.

[@rowlf_]

i feel like at this point she doesn’t even care about animals, she’s just trying to say the most disgusting outrageous things to get views and clout

[@ikb9386]

She basically stole PETA’s schtick and rebranded it to fit one deranged, old Canadian lady.

[@eypu999]

Yeah it’s clear

[@Happytravellerkimmy]

Yeah, she's a troll. If you ignore her she will go back to her troll hole with her sad vegan dog.

[@AlannaMarie]

this is exactly how i feel. she's getting "famous" and reaching more people than she probably ever thought possible, there's no way she's gonna stop when it's working this well for her. as long as big channels like d'angelo, inabber, etc are making videos about her, she's never gonna give it up. she's thriving off of their attention 🤷‍♀️

[@ddjsoyenby]

ikr.

[@misty379]

She’s not a vegan. She feeds off human sanity.

[@callmehannah1940]

This is my favorite comment

[@nman551]

Human souls

[@jude4400]

imagine what happens when she realizes plants are living things

[@auliamate]

That would be cannibalism if she had a soul.

[@kirbyandstargaming8886]

@@jude4400 she said plants can’t feel pain

[@Bshaw4154]

When she talks about these issues she doesn’t actually bring up evidence to back up her points so people are like wtf are you saying girl 🤦🏻‍♀️?? When she says racism is linked to the food industry she completely misses the mark! Cattle eat about 90% of the U.S’ corn and 80% of the soy. Who is mostly working in harvesting that food? Migrant workers who aren’t even paid minimum wage. There’s so many human rights issues in association with the food industry and she’s completely missing the mark. She’s the person that is told that a girl got raped and says “it happens to men too”. Yes concentration camps were designed like slaughter houses and many Jewish scholars make that connection there to show how bad it was but whitesplanning is taking their work and using it to fit her agenda. It’s completely disrespectful.

[@Cookiecat01]

That's completely true, and people should understand that. The ones who get affected by the meat industry the most are lower class people, usually poc. They are the ones who need to work at the slaughterhouse at a minimum wage and suffer trauma because of the experiences there.

[@isabellahomberger5030]

That Vegan Teacher seems like the type of person to think that what happened in the Bee Movie should happen in real life.

[@ameliarampersad3956]

This woman is absolutely unhinged. She sure does loves mocking the dead.

[@faust5727]

Y’all remember the time when she made fun of someones dead cousin?

[@ads605]

@@faust5727 what the absolute fuck

[@Valentineatelier]

Lets not forget comparing animal killing to racism😭

[@niniusaa]

@@Valentineatelier LMAO NOT HER RELATING POC TO ANIMALS

[@mariapaz6379]

the fact that this woman made a sarcastic joke to someone claiming their friend died because of her, has to be one of the most disgusting things I've seen in a while.

[@mischadolly]

her saying "dan-gelo" feels like a hate crime

[@toomanywuehs]

Baby it is🤧

[@thefiretailedweasel6206]

FRRRRR

[@jillsamborsky6417]

She's from Montreal and that's how names with apostrophes are pronounced here, cuz we speak French. I don't think she knew how it was actually pronounced...although she could have done some research (like, 30 seconds) to find out.

[@FriskKimura]

Looking at her personality, it could be on purpose

[@adnamafx5857]

YESSSSS

[@emmastewart2877]

Okay, when she pointed out the wool industry being harmful to the animals. I have been studying large animal health and industry for the past year now and have been to a lot of the facilities from dairy farms to beef farms, to sheep, I have seen the practices they use and have studied the rules and regulations of both animal wellness and safety. Her claim that shearing sheep is abusive is simply illogical. A sheep's hair grows so fast and is so thick that it actually causes problems to animals when not sheared yearly. The shearing of sheep is mainly done to prevent an illness called flystrike, where insects called blowflies lay their eggs in the wool to which maggots hatch and start burrowing into the live tissues of the sheep, which can be fatal if not detected early enough (NADIS). The sheep are sheared once or twice a year to prevent this very painful illness and flock owners generally don't make a lot of money if any at all from the wool. It's just not something that makes money anymore unless you own sheep bred specifically to make high-quality wool (most producers do not). It's mainly for their health, nothing more. This woman claiming that it is abusive to prevent further avoidable illness shows how illogical her arguments are and prove how little effort she puts into researching the claims she makes on her accounts. Yes, killing animals will always be required in a meat diet, but how the industry goes about it has changed tremendously thanks to the work of Dr. Temple Grandin. She has introduced a plethora of new rules and regulations to measure the wellbeing of each and every animal from cows to poultry and has made so many great strides towards raising happier less stressed animals. If you would like to learn more about how the industry has changed Cites: Flystrike: www.nadis.org.uk/disease-a-z/sheep/blowfly-strike-cutaneous-myiasis-maggots/ Behavior studies on how low-stress environments help reduce injury and increase wellbeing in livestock:www.grandin.com/references/new.corral.html Above is a research article but Dr. Temple Grandin also has videos of many livestock handling facilities that shows the livestock from birth to processing, but I will warn that it does show animals being harvested for meat, so if you are squeamish or do not want to see animals dying I suggest avoiding this option. If you want a more realistic idea of what the ideal industry standard is like in the American meat industry I highly recommend watching them.

[@skibidifanumgyat]

"those who CLAIM to be oppressed" , miss , I don't just CLAIM to be oppressed . I AM oppressed everyday , and I don't like to proudly wave that fact around like it's a choice I made .

[@_zander1025]

“DAN-gelo” is the most cursed thing i’ve ever heard

[@hilary4064]

I laughed so hard at that part 😆

[@RandomSwiftie13]

I made your comment's likes 666

[@custardhatter9537]

Dangel-o

[@OGimouse1]

She's doing it because vegans are anti-Jell-O, on account of it's made from beef collagen.

[@SynFlowers]

She’s like that one substitute that can’t pronounce anyone’s name correctly that isn’t “Sarah”

[@zolengeb.7629]

Does- does she realize that being able to afford to eat healthy is a privilege? Like, not everyone has enough money to only buy non-GMO, organic, cruelty-free celery for every meal, GRANDMA! Also, the irony of a white woman calling a black man an “oppressor” is flooring me

[@gabyi3646]

veganism doesnt mean buying nongmo and organic all the time. it’s just stuff w/o animal products like beans and corn n shit

[@lunaeliza4332]

@@gabyi3646 but some people don't have enough vegetable and fruits to be vegan

[@lucylollipop89]

I bet she's never heard of food deserts before, where communities cannot afford fresh produce or live too far from a supermarket. People living in food deserts have to budget their groceries and going vegan is the last thing on their mind, especially during this pandemic. Also, some food deserts are located in areas where crops can't grow or people are unable to forage.

[@irag.6772]

Lmao that's not what veganism is... I agree in some places it's really hard to find vegan food but it really does not have to be expensive! Lots of beans will get u very far

[@metalmaniac5668]

Some of the cheapest foods are vegan. People in poorest countries in the world eat mostly plant based because they cannot afford animal products. Also, anyone who supports animal exploitation and murder IS an oppressor, regardless of skin color.

[@delaneymorse1590]

THERE IS NO WAY SHE GENUINELY THINKS IT IS PRONOUNCED “DAN - JELLO”

[@sarahhh2973]

The seething rage that is just below that "nice lady" persona is terrifying

[@amari9605]

She’s a telling minorities that they aren’t oppressed more than animals but she wouldn’t know talking from a privileged standpoint

[@A_Drift...]

She's right, but her optics are terrible.

[@nadya1285]

@@A_Drift... so youre saying minorities arent oppressed??

[@A_Drift...]

@@nadya1285 stop. More than =/= not at all.

[@kajancepalo6091]

@@A_Drift... stop what? You're the one that insinuated it.

[@A_Drift...]

@@kajancepalo6091 ffs. No. That is typical -gaslighting- strawmaning because people lack any pragmatism/nuance. You can be blm and vegan.

[@CherryBeScary]

When she said “Dan’jello”, I really felt the universe just *give up.*

[@fpcooper95]

Ah, yes, that was the feeling 🤦🏾‍♀️💀

[@engagementengagement8836]

That's how you're supposed to pronounce it

[@fathleen3441]

I literally just paused the video and stared at my desk for a good minute to prepare myself like "ok, that's this is gonna go, alright, deep breath, let's go"

[@hellogoodnight.1123]

@@fathleen3441 same

[@thatboychris9990]

She couldn’t even say Dee-angelo

[@menachemalony462]

Thank you for bringing awareness to the holocaust, I am a jew and my great grandparents died in the holocaust and the way she compared the holocaust to eating meat is disgusting.

[@DangerNoodle815]

The honey industry isnt even animal cruelty tho, bees literally concent to their keeping. If the bee keeper wasnt doing a good job and the bees were not happy they have and will leave the bad bee keepers. Honey is vegan

[@Hecateofcrossroads]

The is honey vegan argument is more complex then that it is a animal byproduct and some bees do get harmed in the making also honey is the bees nutrition source so by extracting the honey they are taking away their food source I’m not trying to start a fight with you so please don’t think I am comming at you

[@shadowknightskye2783]

Actually, most beekeeping works by taking EXCESS honey. They never take it all away. And bees do make EXCESS honey, especially when in ideal conditions!

[@angelonvestura]

what's sick about the "I can't breathe" song is that Regan Russell was also a BLM activist, she would've been disgusted by that song.

[@sky-trevishere9638]

She is literally the book definition of an antisocial narcissistic person. She literally had no empathy for someone in grief about a LOSS of a friend.

[@LaoonCow]

I actually can’t believe that someone actually thinks like this.

[@amari6988]

Its very embarrassing for the entire American society

[@desmondruhling]

I feel like she does it so she can become famous

[@mxx_lika]

Right I really don’t like this women

[@fellzayel1305]

My thoughts exactly. I once considered the idea of ThatVeganTeacher being satire, but she’s proven otherwise...

[@SabrinaJacksonplustardis]

yeah, a ton of people literally can't be vegan depending on their health and where they live. i mean 99% of vegans aren't like this but god is it embarrassing

[@katebull7434]

She’s literally Dolores Umbridge

[@elliejelly8815]

Wool and honey industry actually tend to keep the animals alive for longer

[@ashanimates1716]

Yeah, since we breed sheep so much, they can’t naturally shed their wool. They can get bacteria infections, overheated, and the wool will pull on them. And if anything wouldn’t it be better for the wool shearers to not get blood and that stuff on the wool they are gonna sell?

[@elliejelly8815]

@@ashanimates1716 there’s a lot of wrong sheep facts here, try working on a farm or something

[@ashanimates1716]

@@elliejelly8815 really? Sorry, I like to reaserch animals so is it ok if you can tell me the wrong info?

[@elliejelly8815]

@@ashanimates1716 you just said you like to research animals do it your Fucking self

[@Gabster17]

@@elliejelly8815 Why are you so upset holy shit💀

[@heejinscementbrownies1385]

im struggling to understand how her entire personality isn't satire. like i can not comprehend that she's being serious.

[@daypr8801]

It’s the lack of protein, I guess. XD

[@marwaaaa420]

your profile picture says it all xD

[@rosalynthornn]

@@daypr8801 💀😭

[@coolboidoesstuff9828]

I mean you never know, this might just be some huge attempt at attention

[@SavvyMuhon]

@@daypr8801 Ehhh. I hate this lady but that’s such a tired argument.

[@ursamellis264]

I need a little card that says something like "If I am having two interactions with you it's because either in my first interaction I got something wrong and I am sorry, or it's because that first interaction led you to believe I am here to play around--and in that case I am *really* sorry." which I can hand out irl

[@agoodwasteoftime]

3:22 Does she not realise that... forcing veganism upon others.... is ableist?

[@saraj1002]

She is like all the cringiest parts of Peta mashed into a tiktok granny

[@manaspradhan8041]

Don't forget that PETA is literally an euthanising organisation, most of the animals they 'rescue' are euthanised

[@Gretaisworking]

Good comparison considering how fucked peta is lol

[@uhhi8813]

She literally showed off her PETA stickers in one of her TikToks lol

[@inglorioussaints]

She’s probably 25... 🤣😂

[@hebislay]

@@inglorioussaints sadly she is 54..... her Name is Kadie Karen..

[@laurenswain3038]

Vegan Teacher: murder isn’t a joke guys! Also Vegan Teacher: makes an entire TikTok making fun of someone’s friend who died.......

[@naheleshiriki5496]

Seriously that was chilling to me because it speaks volumes about how oblivious she is to reality and how she lacks complete empathy despite supposedly pushing veganism because of empathy. I don't understand how more people aren't questioning this or commenting about it.

[@AlrexX2]

@Okiroshi you cant just go and assume that it's a lie

[@evasmojang]

Ikr, actually wtf. Why aren't more people talking about that? That is SO messed up and creepy.

[@disaceter1130]

@Okiroshi Are you sure about that? People have genuinely become sick and malnourished from improper vegan diets. Children have died from their vegan parents not feeding them properly. Maybe the story is fake, but even so, deaths caused by veganism are real, and the way she handled it is disgusting.

[@saltsketches3613]

@Okiroshi Actually there has been people who have died/nearly died because of an improper vegan diet that were older than toddlers! It’s called having an eating disorder. Please stop trying to defend That Vegan Teacher because even if it was proven 100% false that’s still no way to react.

[@Macaulyn_97]

"Maybe your followers will see what I'm all about", yeah, we definitely saw what she is all about...

[@kyliscott7459]

The fact that he remains relatively calm throughout this whole thing blows my mind... I commend you sir.

[@user-mm5cs4rf5k]

what do people not understand about “don’t compare things to the Holocaust and Nazis” is it really that hard?

[@alastorbutwithagun]

yeah, there are way too many cases of people comparing things to the holocaust and nazis, i'd understand comparing someone who has killed millions to hitler, but comparing eating animals or someone correcting your grammar?

[@Middleearthian]

@@alastorbutwithagun a common comparison when trying to talk about the intensity of animal slaughter is by referring to it as the "animal holocaust" which is technically correct. But, the way she brings it up is immature and random and seems insensitive, making her comparison make no sense and it's pissing people off. The way she brought it up was wrong, but technically the comparison is correct. Trillions of animals die yearly, are bred and grown to be slaughtered at 1/6th of their lifespans, are killed by gas chambers, bolts to the head, etc.

[@garbij]

@@Middleearthian it is i guess a technically correct term when going by the definition, but it’s simply way too sensitive of a topic for vegans (myself included) to compare animal slaughter to. comparing animal slaughter to the holocaust doesn’t do anyone any good, it gives the vegan community a bad name and we already have too many white supremacist/racist “vegans” in the community. there’s much better ways to highlight the animal cruelty in the animal agriculture industry than comparing it to traumatic events having to do with oppressed groups (slavery and the holocaust)

[@beccamatilda8621]

@@Middleearthian I love animals and all, but like..... that's still pretty shitty to compare human genocide to animals being used as food.

[@cat-ou2jf]

@Nina please people compared censorship to the holocaust. y’all getting real bold.

[@madilou]

“dAn-jElLo” there’s an apostrophe for a reason, babes. It’s literally straight forward phonics.

[@QueenOfKings0402]

That pissed me off. Like being disrespectful for no reasons

[@JeanieD]

TBF, that’s not how it’s done in many other languages (French, Italian). But, yeah, it was disrespectful to not bother to find out how his name is properly pronounced.

[@ethnemillar6430]

She literally used to be an ENGLISH TEACHER like bruh

[@ejones6219]

@@JeanieD come on, i think you guys are over reacting, what if someone really doesnt know how to pronounce a name

[@JeanieD]

@@ejones6219 , it only takes a few minutes of research on KZbin, are you kidding me?

[@TimingIsRight]

7:17 she literally posted tiktoks involving religion and mocking it (or legitimately believed in it), and then contradicts herself.

[@deborahdaniel9791]

the point is to get people to view her videos- its a hit or miss game to gather followers?

[@ReniTube]

1:09 Its already bad enough but for her to pronounce your name wrong...

[@littlepea5527]

as a jew and a vegan. this is absolutely disgusting

[@teresafernandes7440]

Exactly, she's not wrong about some things but this isn't the way to go about it for sure!

[@wargodest]

I’m both too. Seriously fked.

[@patrick1532]

@@teresafernandes7440 The fact that some of what she says is accurate might be the worst part. It delegitimizes them coming from her mouth.

[@teresafernandes7440]

@@patrick1532 there's a lot of discussion in the vegan movement about how to approach activism, for example, abolitionism vs incrementalism, or a more empathic vs straightforward approach, but this is totally terrible yea, it makes it even worse for veganism! and I'm a vegan lmao

[@imalive6583]

As a vegan, I don't claim her. Her DOG is vegan. The dog better adapt. And as someone who lives in a Jewish-Christian family....BRUH SHE DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!

[@terminallyonlinezillennial]

I think one of the most annoying aspects is how she's literally giving vegans and veganism a bad rep by doing this, literally hurting the very cause and if anything deterring people from wanting to check it out due to all of her response videos and shit.

[@PumaArg]

Yep, happens all the time

[@zkw100]

Yeah, she’s giving vegans a bad rep, but she doesn’t really care about veganism - it’s a tool for manipulation and controlling the conversation. As someone else said, she just wants to put herself above others.

[@houseofbehr9983]

In her perspective she never loses to ANY argument ever and never will be.

[@rio6477]

I actually wanted to be vegetarian but because of her I want to go full on carnivore

[@boricua584]

To be fair. Vegans were always annoying before this and judgmental.

[@harumialfaro8633]

All weird vegans aside, can we talk about how GREAT D'Angelo's outfit in the video is?

[@BiggieTheRealOG]

8:59 bro her dog looks sad or depressed, which is very much understandable.

[@lamiaa6819]

Am I the only person who noticed that she said “non-existing god” even though she’s supposedly a Christian. Edit: so a lot of you are saying she’s not but im really confused on why she talks about heaven, hell, and the bible so much when talking abt vegans

[@emilybrown148]

She’s definitely not Christian, just using the rhetorical strategies that Christian uses

[@jorvek6345]

didnt she also say that god and jesus r 'supposedly' vegan? lmao dumb bich

[@houseofbehr9983]

She talks about vegans going to heaven... i'm confusion.

[@MadiMoo-jm7pd]

Nahhhh we don’t claim her either

[@woofyou1186]

And if she’s not a Christian, we also don’t claim her.

[@theoutcast9215]

I’m just gonna say it: her high-pitched, nasally, “sweet” voice hurts my ears and when she talks about disturbing stuff like this it only adds onto it. She’s creepy, delusional, and weird.

[@MaxieMaxieMax]

Ty akira pfp

[@ticklesyoumoistly]

Yeah so i put on subtitles when i watched this

[@hello_person22]

Ikr.

[@yanalie1927]

yep

[@frog137]

And her singing just makes my ears bleed

[@j0ely]

She got so pissed at this video she couldn't finish watching it and cried to another lmaoooo

[@RandomPerson-sy7xc]

I freaking loved Gordon Ramsay's response

[@mariah9644]

funny how shes using a sharpie when Sharpies contain animal derived ingredients and the company that owns that brand (and also prismacolor) tests on animals

[@kevinmustelier]

@violets are purple not blue you twat People will accidentally mark themselves with sharpies -- they're testing to make sure it's not an irritant to the skin. Compared to other things tested on animals, this is relatively benign.

[@isthataninfernapereference4821]

@violets are purple not blue you twat maybe to see if the ink have any effects that can be bad for humans like it causing rashes or to test the permanence of the ink on skin.

[@CourtZilligen]

How wouldnt she know this?

[@thisisjasmine9110]

@@CourtZilligen If you're really passionate about something, you'll research about a lot of things and be conscious of what you use. Also, being vegan is a way of life not only in food (not a fact, it's just how I view it). Guess she doesn't understand that.

[@terminallyonlinezillennial]

Not to defend her, but just wanted to point out that being vegan is about doing what you can to minimise harm as far as is personally practical and possible to do so, and I can imagine not everyone has the time to be researching which permanent markers are vegan, particularly I have in mind any lower socio-economic, disabled or mentally ill vegans who might not have the time or physical or mental energy or ability to research every little thing. But that is news to me and definitely something to keep in mind.

[@reaperslullaby7810]

Vegan teacher: “Dangelo” *while making poor statements* *D’angelo activates god mode* “I must eliminate your ignorance”

[@JungkooksWhore.]

D'Angelo>>>>>>> Humans

[@residententiy]

^^^fax right there

[@sethfortune230]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/el7KepJtodylnMU

[@deltamize]

"dangelo"

[@nman551]

Accurate

[@chrissywebster]

You are super well spoken and smart. Really enjoy the videos, they are super informative. I love that you don't have "filler talk" off topic. So many channels immediately lose me because of this. Not sure what your career goals are but you would be a fantastic college professor or guest speaker.

[@Letm3bleed]

Even tho TikTok makes fun of bella her dog how she can’t wait to die or something like that even tho they can be funny we actually need to get bella away from the vegan teacher dogs are supposed to eat meat we need to prevent her from even getting a dog

[@snooganslestat2030]

Its not making fun of her dog its more pity saying the dog will be happier when its dead which is kinda sick. I hate that shes made her dog vegan. Yes i know dogs dont technically need only meat like cats but seriously NO.

[@iona6558]

“teach these minority groups” is giving a whole lotta white man’s burden vibes 🙄

[@helloitsme3982]

@classy. yep, she also has 3 kids, I have no clue how

[@helloitsme3982]

@classy. I’m pretty sure the word meat was banned in their household 😭

[@helloitsme3982]

@classy. yeah I hope so too. I just heard she just got banned off tiktok and I’m so happy

[@GyeongmiBaeb]

@@helloitsme3982 Thank God!!

[@melissabarbosa1203]

@@helloitsme3982 best day of my life bruh

[@usernamesarestupid7104]

Her saying that "minorities are also oppressors unless they're not vegan" made me physically cringe

[@UnAtom]

And she's forgotten that more black people tend to be vegans and are the ones who helped make veganism mainstream in the states!

[@screamingbanshee1282]

Yes me being part of the severely mentally ill minority, I oppressed vegans, it's not like I have to live life in fear of people treating me differently because of those illness

[@bread6052]

So basically, all the abuse I have faced in my life is my fault as I have been an evil human being and ate meat. It’s my fault that I’ve been beat up in school before and it had nothing to do with having a different colour of skin Yeah makes sense

[@usernamesarestupid7104]

@@bread6052 yea me being called a n*gger b*tch is because I like to eat salmon

[@Volzotran]

I mean If she's talking about animals and not vegans, then she's technically right, I'm a minority but that doesn't matter, because anyone who literally supports animals oppression is, well, an opressor lol

[@marwohassan7740]

I’m speaking for all Canadians when I say this : We don’t claim her

[@deborahdaniel9791]

citizenship revocation - in progress

[@Urza.]

This reminds me of Nicole arbour “covering” This is America.

[@elbowsbuns1896]

Oh god don't remind me of that poorly executed vid.

[@showmoke]

She wouldn’t be out of place standing with the Westboro Baptist Church.

[@kieranindahouuuseeee]

I agree

[@lovecatxx]

That's exactly what I thought. She cannot be unaware of the connection with that 'family time' comment.

[@adrianghandtchi1562]

Yet I’m sure even THEY would not claim her.

[@VVVU2x]

She would make a great spokesperson for PETA

[@bodybuild5975]

I know this is a joke, but on behalf of all Christians, I am very sorry for that church’s hate and their toxic views. I promise not all of us are like that.

[@DanMan]

dangelo is evolving to dangelo

[@oliviatilleman8055]

wat edit: i get it now but still wat

[@schr4pnel]

@@oliviatilleman8055 idk *shrug*

[@xy-moron1779]

Why did i understand that

[@jeycupid]

@@xy-moron1779 🤣🤣

[@ti2218]

The fact that your name is Dan, you have a verification mark, and your pfp is a green arrow going up (somewhat synonymous to evolution), adds to the masterful confusion of your comment. It makes absolutely no sense yet it makes perfect sense. Genius.

[@hsdeogan]

You're chaotic neutral. I love it.

[@ashleighgonzales]

I appreciate how you called out the deflection instead of addressing your specific reactions. I really like your videos btw. You're insightful and have a very calming presence.

[@superfluffers7142]

"Gordon Ramsay ate a burger, I'm sobbing, god isn't real"

[@grabmynuts]

"Those who *claim* to be oppressed" um.. child, anyways so..

[@chelseahansen4214]

But in the next line she said they are oppressed and I’m like...so it’s not a claim then???

[@TheVideoChatter]

I wanted to punch a wall

[@whale_inc9646]

@@TheVideoChatter i want to punch my face

[@JungkooksWhore.]

@@TheVideoChatter imagine this woman when u punch the wall 😊

[@casper-vv6lx]

you mean chile??

[@Salmanul_]

She's the definition of "any type of publicity is good publicity". Someone who uses veganism to gain attention.

[@deborahdaniel9791]

no she uses everything to bring attention to veganism- its her god

[@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice]

Everyone who's on a specialized diet, I support you. Everyone who's not on any sort of diet, I support you. Anyone with ED or other issues with food, I support you. To all of you: Stay safe, stay healthy, listen to your body, and fuck the haters.

[@jdfilipino1272]

D’angelo seems like that chill guy who everyones friends with in high school

[@vinnie906]

Do you mean Dangelo?

[@heheh6727]

@@vinnie906 no she said it right-

[@heheh6727]

@@vinnie906 OH I GET IT NOW😭😭😭😭

[@johannamueller9061]

@@heheh6727 lmao glad you got it

[@screamingbanshee1282]

If d Angelo is in vegans teacher class I will join just for him and the wool industry isnt bad, it is good for sheep to be sheared in the spring , it prevent parasites in the fur, the hair can get matted, they can overheat

[@funkyskee]

She’s literally responding to everyone now- she rants on tommyinnit fans, dazgames, inabber and now you..she really needs to take a break, a LONG one. jeez.

[@sadie5419]

Like a break maybe forever. She should take her time, we won't mind.

[@mia-rh3gb]

I watch them all too 😭

[@nelmae6026]

The old lady just wants clout and fighting with people often one-sidedly. She also has this bullshit perspectives at the way she looks at things.

[@tinapaytinapay]

She goes after people with fanbases much larger than hers. That way she can aggro their fans and give herself easy engagement. I hope people stop going to her videos and just let the creators talk about her without letting her gain anything from it aside from being humiliated off of the internet.

[@worstusernameintheworld9871]

@@tinapaytinapay that's why I'm glad "Dangelo" is showing the videos so I don't need to look it up myself and cringe without giving her the engagement

[@aimless2259]

You handled this perfectly, it's been cool to see your channel grow bro keep going

[@Chimix3]

I knew where this was going the moment she said DAN-gelo.

[@kaialexander6806]

The fact that she keeps saying "claim to be oppressed" is really bothering me like hey Katie, I don't claim to be oppressed, I am oppressed. Ma'am, a guy followed me and my partner around yelling at us about how we were sinning and how we need Jesus solely because we were holding hands. There's no claiming there.

[@cyrus2430]

i feel you there. my girlfriend lives 1434 miles away from me, but i can’t even wear my pride bracelet in public without getting stares or called disgusting, how i’m “disobeying god” (i’m not, and i’m an atheist). so sick so people don’t even bother to try and understand what we go through.

[@steffaniebyrnes9681]

All white old women are oppressed, have you not heard of the Karen.. Guess what her middle name is?!

[@vioops]

@@steffaniebyrnes9681 is this satire 👁👄👁

[@KN-hg2nv]

@version2 ofc it is

[@NylaTheWolf]

That bothered the shit out of me as well!

[@aspic6403]

The activist she is referring went to a slaughter house and saw a truck carrying animals, she though she could stop it by STANDING IN FRONT OF A MOVING SEMI TRUCK. It couldn’t stop in time (because it’s a heavy truck ) and the activist was killed. Kady is sick for trying to compare this to George Floyd’s, there is no similarities between this two cases once so ever

[@1234cheerful]

Checked around and am revising my entry with an excerpt from an article on www.cbc.ca. The activists would walk up to 18 wheelers and give bottles of water to pigs on the way into the slaughterhouse. Added link below so you can go read all of it "Man charged with careless driving in death of Hamilton animal rights activist: police "Police have charged the driver of a transport truck with careless driving after an incident on June 19 where a Hamilton animal rights activist was hit and killed outside a Burlington slaughterhouse. "A 28-year-old from North Perth is charged with careless driving causing death, although "there were no grounds to indicate that this was an intentional act, or that a criminal offence has been committed," Halton Regional Police Service said in a media release." The charges stem from the death of Regan Russell, 65, an animal rights activist who was part of a Toronto Pig Save group giving water to pigs crammed into trailers heading into the plant. That's what she was doing the morning of June 19, when she was hit and killed by the truck. www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/driver-charged-1.5656070 This part is still true: Those 18-wheelers weigh TONS and it takes time from when you gear down (multiple gearshifts to downshift btw) and apply the brake for those tons to stop moving. If you get too close while it is in motion or starting up you may get caught up.

[@TheBoboSamurai]

Do you have any sources to back this up? I already read the Wikipedia entry for her death and it did not have this angle. I know, some people have beef with wiki, whatever, that's why I'm asking if you can provide an alternative perspective?

[@hoshizora416]

If the activist was just there on the road trying to stop the truck, realistically speaking, the truck driver probably didn't see the activists as well. I very much can be wrong, but as far as my experience on a semi-truck(my uncle had 1), I couldn't see shit 3-4 meters in front of me.

[@butt_slapper69]

@@TheBoboSamurai i mean if you logically think about it, it's still her fault. if those trucks carry animals it probably weighs a shit ton (considering a truck itself is already heavy but on top of that also carrying animals) therefore making it practically impossible for something weighing so much to stop just before it hits something, it would probably take a few seconds before it's stopped completely.

[@aspic6403]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZiad4ujgrWbd7M Here is a video about regan russel, I know how I phased it made it seem that she stood her ground but in actuality there isn’t any clear proof on what happen according The Hamilton spectator. But I still think that it is her fault for putting herself in danger unlike the bias point of view for regan

[@izzbee_florp9482]

My soul shriveled when she said your name like "DANgelo"

[@Biscord]

That vegan teacher preaching that all vegans going to heaven but saying God doesn't exist in 07:15 so where are the vegans going?

[@benjibennett2589]

She really just called you “Dan Jello” didn’t she 😳

[@jazeistoxic528]

wait jello is made from gelatin which is made from animals... OOP

[@dannyblantom5243]

WoW...

[@StephSunshineArtistry]

It's the harshest insult she could think of; Jello isn't vegan because the gelatin is made from boiled animal bones.

[@ObeyLucifer]

This woman literally discriminates against EVERYONE

[@harlastra]

I feel like someone could be a white supremacist and she'd still be friends with them if they were vegan.

[@chasonw323]

@@harlastra definitely

[@truecrimereader8346]

@DANIEL BIN OMAR - ah, yes. equally hate EVERYONE. sexism, racism, and al the other -isms are GONE

[@lipstickgamer6580]

I feel like she’d even discriminate against a vegan if they weren’t vegan enough for her

[@xdiaxan]

On the last video too, she encouraged someone to dump their girlfriend cause they were vegetarian and not vegan. Bruh, literally everyone for sure

[@nunyabiz6918]

She’s the very reason why we can’t retire the C Word, completely.

[@ouijacorn]

The fact that her response video is 50+ minutes long is so funny.