TIMMYS UPSET! - The Reserved list has stabilized

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[@mantislazuli]

Cards I'll never sell have gained value. Yay.

[@PhilShary]

I know what you mean. Still, it's a good feeling, isn't it?

[@corrackisdead]

Phil Shary I mean maybe, but if they go up and no one buys them they then have no value

[@tygonmaster]

@@PhilShary An item that is never sold has no price.

[@jotv7224]

should just print it out and play with a fake instead of losing out on money gained. this is a hobby that takes a lot from its players. might as well get some back when you can.

[@EastPilbaraWeather]

“Today we’re going to talk about the Reserved List. Overall nothing to report.”

[@helmutthat8331]

When I saw that Gaea's Cradle was moving up, I bought three more at $350. Now it has stabilized at $500.

[@DM-qm5sc]

I just bought out all the foil Evolving Wilds at TCG, Rudy gonna be so mad when he finds out 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jimmyg2999]

Naw he’s gonna be steaming after I buy all the psa 10 alpha plagues rats all up!!!!

[@GrimmTutelage]

Looking for all the outlaws merriment myself. He loves that card

[@BKLYN_Crook]

17:53 "Money Machine go BRRR". ♥️ it.

[@robertg4209]

This was the only thing I could think about untill the video ended.

[@claytonmiller3898]

My theory is that considering the amount of curtailed economic activity in the time of Covid there's a HUGE amount of pent-up buying power among those who are still employed. A lot more money is getting pushed into MtG than would have otherwise.

[@terryfeynman]

I don´ t believe that, and here is why. If you want to buy reserve list cards, covid did not really stop you. You could still go on ebay, tcg etc and get these cards. The pent up buying power will go more towards goods and services we did not really have for a while. On the contrary the situation atm. is very good for a tabletop, as rudy said in the video, since people need entertainment and escapism in these times more then in others. I also think that the current trend could come from the massive amount of money pumped into the economy via stimulus cheques, so it is more of a short term trend reversal. A lot of people got cheques that where not in emergency situations and could afford to blow that money on some luxuries they would otherwise not have bought. I think overall the economic situation is too bad to get this trend now on such a luxury item, so I do not trust it.

[@dom19945]

Right. And some states still haven't opened up fully. They have no choice but to buy cards online and will probably pay more for them.

[@gregschaust4298]

@@terryfeynman Yeah, I agree. Some people like myself have been working this whole time, with the disposable income to buy these things (I never stopped). I still think that we have not seen the bottom of the market for ABU and vintage. There is a limited nubmer of people willing and able to buy, simple supply and demand. We will see in time though.

[@blacklanner5795]

Wonder if there is a correlation between MTG price stabilization around the $1,200 mark. Totally random of course.

[@snozeberry99]

Hell yes i made 20 bucks on the 2 reserved cards in my commander deck. Timmy not mad.

[@DVS57REBEL]

Timmy's give me looks with my commander decks Tabernacles Workshops Timetwister Etc lol Etc

[@maartenn2217]

@@DVS57REBEL cool story bro

[@MrKlipche]

@@DVS57REBEL wow your so cool can we be friends?

[@LiberalsCauseCancer]

i am under the impression that the economic system is going to push through the most devastating turd this world has ever known by the end of this year, too early to say anything is stable

[@blacklanner5795]

SPY 420

[@DM-qm5sc]

We can only hope

[@delbomb3131]

"i would love it if Arabian Nights tripled in price, I'd make a fortune" after years of Rudy saying "all vintage cards go into the vault I'm not selling"

[@tjcofer7517]

Well I mean I assume it is because it is his long term investment not because he intends to take it to his grave

[@tygonmaster]

I thought he said only high-graded cards he never sells? He did say he wants to remove all PSA 10 alpha cards from circulation.

[@richardcarson3596]

where can i get a play mat of the thumbnail?

[@mikerozon9570]

what pricing list do you use for the original sets... i used to collect back in the old days. most of the value in my collection resides with the betas, unltd, revised duals and legends. just wondering whats the best resource is to determine a relative value for my collection.

[@stevekeenan9673]

Been buying anything beta I can....with $5-100+ commons and uncommons it goes fast, but I enjoy opening beta singles in the mail the most because of nostalgia

[@mtgtv1384]

Thanks for the daily video. Provides a nice break from the apocalyptic news. Unbelievable, but commander is the primary driving force behind the prices in the secondary market today. The last two weeks or so has seen increases not paralleled since the boom in 2017.

[@TheMCGamer2012]

Boom in 2017's when I cashed out baby 😎

[@aureliengilles6627]

Hi Rudy, do you know why the NA market and the EU market are so different ? EU seems very lower than NA, isn't it?

[@skurai]

love this talks! Please make a stock market channel Rudy with the pink visor unchained

[@MTGUnpacked]

It's pretty unbelievable considering most LGSs are still not running tournaments, and the big events for the year have been cancelled. Are that many people spending stimulus checks on Magic?🤔

[@tragicslip]

there is a supply disruption. stores rely on people selling cards to stock a lot of singles (esp for old cards). those stores are closed and individuals are buying online. as stores run out of supply, the people willing to sell at today's price dries up. so prices drift up. Rudy says prices aren't going up. See Wheel of Fortune, or many cards legal in EDH and desirable. hopefully, moving competitive magic to esports stuff gets legacy players onto mtgo and put their duals in the hands of casual players. including IE and CE and excluding foreign language card there are about 134100 copies of each dual land on the planet. even adding FBB duals you can see that supply can't meet EDH demand. to me this explains fetchable triomes.

[@tragicslip]

btw, nice channel. subbed

[@rubix2007]

Just seems best of both worlds as a game and a collectible. Can't do that with sports cards , and they will always hold value. MTG 4 THE WIN

[@brandoncarr1469]

great video ! thanks for the insight

[@bryanwang1306]

Prices might drop, after ppl run out of stimulus money

[@tygonmaster]

People only got $1500 in direct aid. In the reserved world, that does not go very far.

[@AizaakThurston]

Honestly I think it was all panic selling and not related to any actual change, to me the stimulus checks etc most countries did probably countered any actual economic downturn that happened.

[@nantukoprime]

Nostalgia from the people who are now able to return to a hobby, prompted by a successful marketing campaign for War of the Spark or from playing Arena. People who already sort of know the scene, but are now exploring the formats that are new to them or they never got to experience when they paid previously. For the returnees with a longer gap, smart phones and Web 2.0/ecommerce really did a lot of things for the secondary market. I think your previous expectations for how the secondary market are going to be jostled a bit while we are still in the honeymoon period.

[@jaylab6511]

im suspecting a part 2 tbh imo

[@devoted2thaentertainment207]

The meaning behind the thumbnail is funny, and very true

[@EyeOfTack]

seems like the repeating theme of this entire financial crisis, it seems to be happening very quickly

[@bla5tmya554]

I had no idea it was the year 202020, man how time flies

[@TreeCutterDoug]

The world is effed, and MTG is my only solace. Thanks Rudy, for staying focused on what really matters.

[@shmerelize]

Warehouse fire? Can I get details?

[@Blijuhtoewp2]

Someone? Is it worth it to buy a kaladesh boosterbox from someone? Because i heard boosterboxes comes in a case and mostlikely if a box had a masterpiece the other in the case dont have one. And how much booster boxes are there in a case? Please help :D

[@steveselkirk3352]

Standard MTG cases come six boxes per case, the odds of pulling a masterpiece are somewhere close to 1:3 boxes(2-3 per case factoring variance). Figuring that a Kaladesh box is gonna run around 175-200$ (language doesn't matter, all masterpieces come English) there are only 7 total worth more than the box and about 20 total that will make the box not be a bust. Hit any of the bottom half of masterpieces or miss and you're out a ton of money. TL:DR No, don't buy a box of Kaladesh hoping for a masterpiece.

[@stephens9772]

I still think that the next year could still be chaotic and prices could still fall some.

[@tygonmaster]

Given the terrible US fed response to Corona, winter 2020 into early 2021 is going to be a complete shitfest.

[@Bloodreign137]

What I learned from this video is if you can find where WOTC stores it’s stock and pay someone to burn it down to the ground you can make major profit on current sets. Thanks Rudy! 👍

[@TheMCGamer2012]

What is the Reserved list? Is that the one with infamous cards like Giant Growth and Island?

[@ddwkc]

Time for all the Timmys storm Wall Street of Alpha Taco Investments!

[@snakeonia7542]

Stone calendars to the mooooooon. Lets go!!!

[@mtgmason1551]

Everything is chaos, and always has been chaos, just at different levels, this is one of the highs, soon we will be in a low, still, it’s all chaos, and there will always be a problem to worry about, it just depends how you handle the chaos.

[@Perceptious37]

chaos is a ladder.

[@justinsnider9772]

Deep

[@moxavenger]

Thank you Dr. Malcolm.

[@Chepakishui]

Rudy, I wonder why you never mention the Lorwyn/Shadowmoor blocks as being an exceptionally good product to have invested (for sealed product) in considering the growth average over it's first 10 years was somewhere in the range of 29% a year. This was a standard priced set, not a premium set, and the sealed box value went to about $1,000 in 10 years. from $80 to $1000 in 10 years, that's about 29% year over year on average. Is it because these are some kind of an anomaly where the sealed price is extremely high relative to the expected value of the cards?

[@KrepsyK]

Most people are nostalgic towards those sets. Back when art was still good, and WotC still made edgy cards and stories. Plus tribal was huge during that time and tribal decks never die.

[@MTGMOXMAN]

I think they should take 1-2 cards per set and add them to the reserved list , this would be great to show that we expand the list. Great for collectors

[@MTGMOXMAN]

Stay the course! Card values are always up and down, but there was good value too be found on eBay. I missed out and did not buy. Buy I did not sell what I have either

[@dsmith3112]

What everyone should understand before "investing" in Vintage Magic is that the current price levels have everything to do with low interest rates. When the federal reserve uses a low key interest rate, money gets pushed from government bonds into coroporate bonds, then from corporate bonds into equities and finally from equities into "alternative investments" (collectibles, cryptocurrencies), with each category being, broadly speaking, more risky than the previous. We have seen historically low interest rates for almost a decade now, leading to a gigantic swell in the collectibles market. It is no coincidence that the recent years have seen record prices for baseball cards etc., as Rudy puts it "money has to do somewhere". - Keep in mind that most of high-end magic cards are not held by players or even individual collectors, they are held by "institutional capital", i.e. large or semi-large organizations with deep pockets (or equivalently, very wealthy individuals) who will quickly move elsewhere if opportunities dry up. If the interest rates get raised, collectibles are probably the first to go. Rudy, being fully aware of all of this, would probably be one of the first to sell. - That said, given the current situation, a raising of the interest rates is unlikely to happen any time soon. On the contrary, we might even see negative interest rates as an attempt at producing economic stimulus. But all of this is subject to change over time and no one can predict the condiditions in five years. - Furthermore, I think one should be particularly cautious with cards from the Unlimited set, which was the first with a fairly large print run, and printed at a time where people had already somewhat recognized the value of the cards (so not as many were destroyed/lost). 17k of each rare is a very large number for a collectible, even if only half of them still exist. For comparison, there are around 1500 known copies of the 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle baseball card, covering the full spectrum of conditions. That is a little bit more than the Limited Edition Alpha print run, around half of the Beta print run. A flawless one sold for 750k in 2018, at the height of the collectibles bubble. A well-worn one is currently available on ebay for about 5k, knock yourself out. A very lowball estimate would be that there are 5 times as many UL Black Loti in the world, probably much more. And how many people are interested in baseball as compared to MTG? Do the math... - To summarize, while the market may have bottomed for now, I don't see a 50% downside for Vintage Magic, or collectibles as a whole, to be all that far fetched.

[@timothyswindell4924]

I think it’s gonna retrace downward. Stabilization could simply be because of stimulus/extra unemployment money being injected in the market mixed with people not being able to spend money out in the economy. Be careful with investment price points everyone.

[@tygonmaster]

Could retrace downward with the usual uptick 12-24 monthes from now. Even if this is not the bottom, anyone with a brain can say prices are not going to stay this low. They probably will fall more and then rebound when play resumes in LGSs.

[@bryanwang1306]

Too early, it hasn't stabilized, temporary propped up by 1200 stimulus

[@craigwinans1948]

Why would anyone be upset? Best thing ever for those that want to bail out. They can now get better prices on their cards than a freefall would get them.

[@lordofthingstube]

Funnily enough this sort of stuff has actually affected the Path of Exile unique market and I’ve been losely following Rudy’s observations for that market and its kinda been going great

[@FreakPC]

whooooo magic

[@Cyb3rSix]

I just wanna know where my sliver queens are gonna go.

[@Ironsides89]

well after listed on Amazon for $300 the double masters boxes shot up to $480 on ebay and have now fallen down to about $340

[@GamingBear_Q_E_D]

Thanks again Rudy, always interested & interesting. Love it.

[@Seabound117]

Given Wizards current trends I would be concerned they will ban the reserve list cards since the hight card values will be deemed offensive.

[@sogtrot4692]

Me regularly: Me when the title has tommy:

[@Bloodreign137]

That meme is so dumb with just text

[@jordanm7713]

Still true

[@mtgpackrat7945]

25%/3 years? 7% a year? May want to try that math again.

[@KillerCadaver]

I would love if Wizards had the balls to release a Reversed List set of only Reserved List cards.

[@Frkr.]

Steven Vander Hoek a gold bordered Black Lotus with all moxes. Also goldbordered :)

[@DDDhorus]

Crazy thing is allot of cards on eBay are fake unless they are graded!!!. How many people are getting ripped off??!!

[@christopherg6144]

There has to be large players holding urzas cards the print run is simply way to high to have urza cards climb so high.

[@Ricardo8388]

Rudy's barber is also on the reserved list.

[@houseis]

Let's admit we've all acted like timmy at one point in time

[@johnkuijs1537]

0:59 current mood

[@PawzBrownMTG]

Great video love learning from Timmy's taco stand

[@zanzabaarr]

maybe you can make another channel comparing real life finances and magic finances

[@Tolkatore]

Why not just by a Standard and Poors 500 index fund and make 10% a year, but unlike Magic boxes, when you decide to cash out, you can do it with just a few clicks of a mouse?

[@reapensol3447]

The fear is real. RIcke

[@jenniferneumann706]

I'm currently buying into cheap Alpha cards 👌🏻 Can't go wrong long term on that :))

[@Ricardo8388]

It's better to buy wiskey if you are in it for profit.

[@leounknown7316]

Rudy will you be adding more spot for your pateron?

[@photosinensis]

Money needs somewhere to go. And you can't put it in negative interest bonds. You can't put it in stocks--companies aren't doing anything with the money anyway. You can't put it in gold, you got burned last time. You can't put it in crypto, because that's just looking to get jacked. So art and collectables. Money will go there.

[@heirkaiba]

I keep buying Copy Artifacts cause they’re cheap as hell.......

[@RealScrymeaRiver]

^^^ I was just telling people about that today. Copy artifact and Null Rod are hot investment spec's.

[@derekvonsuppiny1982]

Yeah revised versions are still around $18-25 right? Should be a $40+ card.

[@DeviousPie2]

With companions warping many competitive formats in conjunction with the banning of Flash in EDH, CEDH has become a much more appealing sub-format. I don't think it's that surprising that we saw massive spikes in CEDH reserved list staples following the banning of Flash. Is it the only reason? No. But the 60 dollar price tag on Tainted Pact (Not a reserved list card!) should be indicative enough that there's interest in CEDH.

[@javiertalay]

202020 rudy confirmed to be a time traveler. He has all the price magazines from the future, he knows which products will have value and the market up and downs. He is playing us

[@antmansenpai]

damn, its June 1st, Rudy is 2 days in the future, no wonder he knows too much

[@anotherserviceuser]

Timmy is more upset about Dow has stabilized.

[@heliobarbosa3525]

He's lying. It's May 31.

[@JammedCards]

Day 58 of commenting every day until Rudy restocks t-shirts

[@TheKillermike83]

I saw one on ebay for $1000 lmao

[@SwingingLethal]

You can do it!

[@DVS57REBEL]

@@TheKillermike83 is it psa gem 10?

[@mehtheorc]

I got them untethered balls when I'm watching alpha investment 🚫👖

[@Renamawn]

"Everyone needs a little giggity in their life" I'll eat a taco to that.

[@Wolfgar-jx5kl]

Shoot I’m glad it’s evened out I was like man how far is my cards gonna drop !

[@karlenglewood8940]

1.0749 is still 1.07 and compound yearly for 3 yrs is around 1.242 which is within 5% error. Rudy still doing math like he's on wall st.

[@alexandereglevsky5829]

lol me laugh

[@dsmith3112]

If/when the feds raise the interest rate, party is over altogether.

[@KrepsyK]

Nobody seems to want to address the incoming check that we'll be paying back for generations.

[@MyLittleMagneton]

This is a good product: Rudy is just saying that to increase the value of his position. This is a bad product: Rudy is just saying that so he can buy all cards for pennies on the dollar.

[@inc0gn3grO]

reserved list silver yeehaw

[@Eric_DJ]

I just got the 2 dual lands I was missing to have the set of 10. Let the prices soar now.

[@franjero7207]

If you want to buy a pre release double master but its sold out 2 months in advance and 2021 core .. don't look that interesting because lack of promotion then you go to tthe single market and buy old thing that you like for commander xD or to invest because can't get the new stuff that i terest you and are not willing to pay 400 for a 265 product that was sold out

[@StealthNinja4577]

You know I hear you say people will slam the thumbs down but the video gets like a 90:10 ratio

[@dustinjohnson2224]

It only stable cause of most lgs are not open to buy cards. It will come down hard

[@___ooobodybagooo___]

I love you rudy but its hard to trust someone who lives or dies by making money on this shit.

[@Caliban_80]

Looking for a message of any kind in this rambling. What was the point of this video? Starts by talking about how expensive the reserve list is. Then says to buy reserve list now. Then talks about amonket. Then warehouse fires and commander. Then bitcoin. Wtf.

[@michaeledwards1644]

will a Charzards psa 10 first edition surpass the Black Lotus

[@zza5358]

Just bought a Revised Tundra today just because I had a random feeling that it's about to spike.

[@SwingingLethal]

Always a thumbs up

[@nothingcrazy3804]

Just sold GIS at 60, bought @47 a share. Comic Books do the same thing. Message me Rudy/Timmy...old school Magic the Gathering player.

[@Erebusdidnothingwrongish]

Man I love these videos. Looking at card is cool and all, but its like having fre financially advisor for free. This information can all be used in other areas of your life. Love 🇬🇧

[@KorasiPKed]

everytime ive done the double D's they've cheated and left me.

[@arizonaaquarius8398]

best card in alpha: BERSERK!

[@johnmcclure5051]

He's mad she's mad BiG mAd. Don't care Aha Aha Aha Aha

[@derekvonsuppiny1982]

RUDY! This means I have to buyout all the STONE CALENDARS (the next black lotus) before they go to $500+. My financial advisor Timmy said I can dip into my 401k penalty free if it's for the purchase of reserve list cards.

[@MintChocDoublin]

Am I the only one who cringed when Rudy said Monster Train?

[@technole]

Tier 2 Reserved are basically EDH staples. Top-performing magic format + demand = spin the wheel of fortune

[@chesterfieldthe3rd929]

Indeed

[@mozoxz]

Rudy is the man. Floppy tacooos.

[@OwenPrescott]

CV was likely just the start of a major depression so don't get to bullish Rudy

[@NaZtRdAmUs]

That tumbnail should be on the reserved list too.

[@jdust4]

Ha first like Rudy. Take that!

[@gigglegiggles3189]

I hit the happy button before you started.