A TikTok 4c hair discussion about a white man looking for a curly hair girl? are 4c hair girls now turning into pick me's?
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@theeerarestjewelАй бұрын
Black women need to come into terms that we have COILY HAIR, NOT ALWAYS CURLY
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
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@ohdamnmanАй бұрын
A coil is an extreme curl
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
@@ohdamnman ❤️💚
@theeerarestjewelАй бұрын
@@ohdamnman yeah extreme curl. But curly hair doesn't loc or coil. Or we wouldnt see coily hair women, copying curly hair routines and failing with keeping up their hair.
@unfiltered8407Ай бұрын
THIS!
@noneofyourbusinesslolz6112Ай бұрын
When white men talk about curly hair they 100% mean type 3 hair or wavy hair! And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that but if they’re looking for 4C hair, they will say “4C hair” or “coily hair” and that’s just straight facts💯😂
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
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@smelly1060Ай бұрын
They talking type 2🤣
@parisortiz873120 күн бұрын
They would most likely say girls with afros
@regalclan520212 күн бұрын
Lol , that's ridiculous, only black people know or care about that hair classification , you think a white guy would know what 4C is or coily hair is even some of your black brothers don't know that classification.
@AFocusedLivingАй бұрын
No more caring what men of any race find attractive and focus on our self-esteem.
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
@@AFocusedLiving Amen, amen and AMEN.
@dohyun47875 күн бұрын
Preach , preach ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@MaNoZuАй бұрын
When the lady with locs said “you’re activating my eczema “😂😂😂 I couldnt stop laughing but I agree with her🤷🏾♀️ sometimes some of these women do sound desperate
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
Too desperate 😞
@melaninmonroeeeeАй бұрын
Omg she was hilarious. I was screaming at her whole commentary 😂😂😂😂
@oliviastar3812Ай бұрын
@@tintamanengu Cringeworthy
@Babyluv_Ай бұрын
I honestly thought he was talking about looser curls. I assumed he meant type 2 or type 3 hair on non-black or maybe biracial women. I’m not sure why women were convinced he was talking about black women. We need to stop the madness. First we had the “lobster and pasta” nonsense and now this. We look SO DESPERATE online.
@bri_33Ай бұрын
Yeah, I knew we were at a (collective) loss when they were doing that disgusting, dehumanizing, degrading, "chilling with my massa" challenge 🤮
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
So embarrassing
@NycBeautyАй бұрын
@@bri_33Oh my goodness , I’m glad I don’t have TT. Because that seems like something that would be on that platform.
@Butterfly-yk9bwАй бұрын
@@tintamanenguright
@ravenrebel3183Ай бұрын
Yes, it’s sad and embarrassing. He knows how to say he likes black women if he did, but he didn’t, so that’s not what he meant and they know it. Instead of taking that gracefully black women are jumping up to be clowns 🤡 , smh
@preyn49Ай бұрын
I think it was misunderstood because he said "natural." I never heard white girls use the term natural. He actually meant naturally curly for his particular type not black women. I've heard white girls say their hair is naturally curly but they prefer it straight. Now that's the language he probably grew up around.
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
Could be
@lalaland2107Ай бұрын
But he *did* say “NATURALLY curly” and even then it still sounds like he’s definitely not talking about type 4 hair.
@ravenrebel3183Ай бұрын
Yes, because the black community doesn’t own the term “natural hair”-everyone has that. He was talking about curls like Shakira or something.
@SusieSue242Ай бұрын
Embarrassing
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
So embarrassing 😞
@oliviastar3812Ай бұрын
So if the first girl/woman KNOWS he's talking about others & not black women ... WHY then does she proceed to spend the next 3 mins talking and talking and talking?? I believe the correct term is 'thirsty'?? Get some self-respect and let the man go find whatever he's on about. He knows, he's just attention seeking too. Sad all round. Ok, I'm off the soap box now.
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
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@My.HumbleOpinionАй бұрын
That girl with the red bandana was butthurt. I appreciate you giving them the benefit of the doubt, but idk why everyone just assumed he's not talking about black women too. The third girl in the car had the most realistic take tho. Either way, I bet he wasn't even thinking about it that deep lol
@disneytoysr4fun975Ай бұрын
Facts, she was the most cringe and you can tell her “jokes” were not her taking it lightly but her trying to make fun of him by being sarcastic.
@ami-el7dgАй бұрын
She was so unnecessary. Like she's perfectly aware who that guy was talking about but then she just came in with useless commentary.
@Justcanary8888Ай бұрын
I think he meant women who have type 2-3c hair. Why are bw who have type 4 hair are inserting themselves into this conversation? Decenter wm
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
🤷🏾♀️makes no sense to me neither
@ravenrebel3183Ай бұрын
Desperation for wm and hair texture envy-that’s why.
@StoudemАй бұрын
Curly, coily and kinky are 3 different hair types
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
Are they? I always thought they could be used interchangeably but with the last two being more specific.
@StoudemАй бұрын
@@tintamanengu personally I’d say yes. To me kinky hair is hair that doesnt have an obvious pattern unless highly manipulated. Tend to look pretty with Afros. Coily is hair that has a visible coil pattern and easy to define. I’d say my hair is coily, perfection combination of kinks and curls so in the middle. And curly hair is very easy to define. Like the ones in this video that guy was referring too.
@noneofyourbusinesslolz6112Ай бұрын
@@StoudemTHIS RIGHT HERE! Best explanation I’ve seen BY FAR!💕
@LethalLemonLimeАй бұрын
@@Stoudem kinky is a torque in the strand. silky coily hair isn't kinky which makes the coils more visible without product. But the more kinky the hair is the harder it is to see the coils.
@ravenrebel3183Ай бұрын
Thank you. The delusional black women are kill!ng me.
@ketura_v_artАй бұрын
All sandals are a type of shoe but not all shoes are a type of sandal; ergo, kinky hair is a type of curly, but not all curls are kinky (that's why being specific matters, and he was quite specific).
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
💚❤️ I thought so too
@honorables9485Ай бұрын
I also think that most black people have coily hair and not curly hair. I grew up in a place where my type of hair was described as wooly so I never thought of my hair as curly.
@J.A.G.618Ай бұрын
@@honorables9485 🙎🏿♀️ Wrong! Out curly hair from 3 c to coily which is extreme curly because we are the race of curly hair! We have different textures of curly, different dryness of curly but yes sisters Coily is curly!! I will tell any black sister that. For people to get curly hair in their genetic makeup it's because you have parents that mated with someone with flaxen hair lay down with a curly or coily hair hair person and their children would come out with anything from loose ringlets to coyly curled hair. We are the queens of curls know it!! I love it! From a 65-year-old queen.🤷🏾♀️
@honorables9485Ай бұрын
@J.A.G.618 What applies to you doesn't apply to every black person(Black as in fully black persons, not according to one drop rulers) and likewise with me🙂. I grew up next to black people who had hair that I described, and curly hair is mostly for mixed race people.
@J.A.G.618Ай бұрын
@@honorables9485 🙎🏾♀️ What you think doesn't apply to all black people thinking either! That's the way you think! Your next door experience doesn't apply to all black people experience!!🙅🏾♀️ When I was coming up 65 years ago our hair from mildly curly to tightly curl or extreme curly or kinky was all call curly hair! We was taught that we came from the race of people that had curly hair because our ancestors came from a place that was very close to the Sun that's why we are called the sun people! Our hair curled based on the environment as a way it reacted to protect our scalp and our faces and neck from the sun. Our hair that curl and frizzy cover more space across our scalp than a straight strand of hair and the curls also help lift off the scalp which allow air to blow through our hair which was like a coolant instead of having straight hair plastic down on our ancestors's head in the sun. You want to use the word coily cuz it's a trend that you heard some young people that fall for any word that they come up with on the internet then take off as a trends! All the sudden you are expert! All black people have curly hair from springy to tightly kinky curly! Our hair is part of the human race and we are the ones that have the most tightly curled in different ranges of curls in our heads that we already had words for before your trend coily word came along. like we some kind of metalhead head full of metal coils! If you don't know what tightly curled is then 😮you are stupid if you don't know what kinky is then you are stupid because that was the words that we use when I was coming up. 🙎🏾♀️ We are the sun people We Are The descendants from our ancestors that were in the land of the sun which was in the African desert and hot areas of Africa !
@GladToBeNaturalАй бұрын
I wish the black women that stitched didnt say "in the black community" no need to bring all of us into it. He meant beach waves, ringlets, and curls that stretch down. Most white ppl say fro when the mention or like our hair tbh.
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
No need to bring us all in it really 😀
@ravenrebel3183Ай бұрын
Exactly
@emmm_4465Ай бұрын
My first reaction was honestly why are we falling over to present ourselves to ONE WHITE MAN who just said “I lyk curlz”. We need to decenter desperately rather than do the most to be picked especially by YT men, 4CPride ✊
@LethalLemonLimeАй бұрын
Some of these stitches and some of these comments under this video are so cringe. They don't see them in the wild because the majority of curly haired girls straighten their hair. And in the wild most black people wear weaves, wigs, and braids so... Anyway, I don't identify with the word curly. My hair is coily or kinky coily if you prefer.
@msladytmsladytАй бұрын
But and he said stop straightening the curly hair some black women do have naturally curly hair but he wasn’t talking about those women in this video 🤷🏽♀️
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
Glad we can agree as a collective.
@Mini-ge9smАй бұрын
And there is nothing wrong with that!! He has a right to liking what he likes. Actually the type he is looking for is maybe biracial or Latina!! The ones in the so called black community he is referring to is maybe mixed!! Stop fighting for someone who does not want you!! Smh😅
@oliviastar3812Ай бұрын
Mum says 'every pot has its lid' and she's 100% right.
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
Mum knows best
@TextureTalk1Ай бұрын
I love how they interjected themselves into the conversation. 😂Hilarious
@ambersummer2685Ай бұрын
I think it’s all to feel validated. Trust me no matter what race, if you end up with the wrong guy, validation should be the last of your concerns. Being with someone you mutually love beyond what race you are is important. I mean if you’re into white guys, that’s fine but stop treating attracting them as a flex on how pretty you are. If you’re pretty, you’ll attract anyone. Like can we stop using white guy’s attention as proof of our beauty?
@emmm_4465Ай бұрын
THANK YOU, It’s energetically tiring always wanting to be picked
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
THIS ❤️💚
@docfabzАй бұрын
He definitely was talking about loose curls/wavy haired folks. To be honest his video seemed kinda corny or disingenuous and maybe pandering? He sounds like he's from America. Where is he located that curly haired ppl are no where to be found. I could be wrong idk
@thediscustedkitty6348Ай бұрын
White women and latinas with curly and wavy hair will flat iron their hair every single day. He may very well never see women with curly hair.
@ravenrebel3183Ай бұрын
@@thediscustedkitty6348I used to do that and now embrace my curls. It’s sad to see and I try to convince others to ditch the flat iron-and with some success!
@leoskiss339028 күн бұрын
I find it odd that people expected a white male to be talking about black women….he’s white I would by default assume he’s looking for non people of color who have slightly curlier hair. I don’t think it’s anything wrong with it
@tintamanengu27 күн бұрын
Exactly what I thought.
@gertrudesatekge2635Ай бұрын
Can we diffrenciate curly from coily? Black people do not have curly hair like 3B/3C at least not a lot of them do. It's not you sis, but it will be one day!
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
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@melaninmonroeeeeАй бұрын
This is false . I have 3b hair and im blk and the majority of my friends have 3c hair . The are alot of blk ppl with type 3 curls
@onwardtolanguagelearning7076Ай бұрын
@@melaninmonroeeeebut majority has 4b/4c
@doll.ov.poetrii4682Ай бұрын
@@melaninmonroeeee Type 3 black people are the minority. Most type 3 girls have recent admixture even if they claim to be fully black for 5+ generations. The collective of black people throughout the black diaspora have type 4 hair.
@jerseyreddjc3569Ай бұрын
Black Americans have completely different types of hair from other countries. Many black Americans do in fact have curly hair. The coily people are the ones having an identity crisis.
@Aniexo_Ай бұрын
“3 going this way” 😂😂
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
😀 And I know we collectively understand which way it is.
@Christine-hr8inАй бұрын
Desperation. There's a Big Difference Between Nappy hair and Curly hair. You CAN Get Curly hair at the Beauty Supply store In the Black Community. Truth, you DON'T Have to Prove to Anybody. You're good the way you were made! You can create Versate styles WITH Or WITHOUT Fake hair!
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
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@smelly1060Ай бұрын
They just threw the 'joke' in there to seem self aware but they were dead serious.
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
😄 maybe they are maybe they're not 🤷🏾♀️
@2okaycolaАй бұрын
Girls answering his question is helpful to most white peoples who have limited experiences w other races. I think he was referring to 3c too but telling him what’s up w good hair is divine work
@sweetsuite498Ай бұрын
I wish black people would realize one thing above all other things hair: we have every hair type. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. 1-2-3-4- and beyond. Stop thinking a woman has to be mixed race or light skin to have 'CURLY' hair. Contrary to most arrogant beliefs, the USA does NOT have the most diverse group of Africans. Not even close.
@tbabyyy333Ай бұрын
really?? Who does??
@JustMeandGod_18 күн бұрын
@@tbabyyy333Africa
@jejelaurent9495Ай бұрын
Black women have kinky hair not curly.
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
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@doll.ov.poetrii4682Ай бұрын
Some kinky hair is curly. I have 4A/4B afro textured hair that is also curly.
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
@@doll.ov.poetrii4682 💚❤️
@OliviaFranks219Ай бұрын
It is curly, just tighter curls.
@melaninmonroeeeeАй бұрын
Stop , im black and I have type 3 curls . Do not speak for all blk women smh
@user-tu4rb3ue2hАй бұрын
IN THE WILD? Where does this man live at? IN THE WILD! When he says wild, I think of the jungle 🤔 😆 Wait! If you know that this guy isn't talking about you, why are you answering 🤔 Some people are desperately thirsty 💦 That's what you are letting people know, not that you're cute 🥺
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
It's unfortunate.
@lalaland2107Ай бұрын
Because a lot of white people have curly hair too it’s just that they straighten it because they’re following the status quo/standards.
@RoyaltyACАй бұрын
It kinda reminds me of the guy that decided to go out on a date with women in every state and bw started making videos angry because he didn’t go out with any black women. It’s cringy. Bw please stop begging the approval of men no matter what the race.
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
This actually happened? 😀
@RoyaltyACАй бұрын
@@tintamanengu yesss it was maybe about 2 years ago and bw had to gather up those who were acting desperate.
@halroxdynasty8683Ай бұрын
6:16 she's so pretty fr
@Munixx_Ай бұрын
ah....you know ngl I feel so uncomfortable watching some of my people just throwing their selves at this guy...even if they are only stitching the video. What is with this need for validation from different ethnicities other than our own...I feel saddened like please tell me this is not where we are now... I am aware it's not all of us but I'm hard pressed to believe I am the only one who is uncomfortable with this...
@disneytoysr4fun975Ай бұрын
Does anyone have the last ladies tik tok?
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
It's @Anyahwater
@GladToBeNaturalАй бұрын
Its the blonde braids full video. She was joking but why make a video.
@jerseyreddjc3569Ай бұрын
If you’re a black woman with curly hair, he was addressing you too. That’s why people need to stop calling coils curls. There’s a clear difference. People with coils have been trying to force people to accept their hair as curly and then they get mad when it’s not the preference for curly hair. People with coils don’t like their own hair unless it’s being referred to as curls.
@J.A.G.618Ай бұрын
🙎🏿♀️ wrong! We are the race of curly hair! You just found a new way to say extreme curly hair! Some of y'all young people want to call it coily because it's a trend for right now for you! For proud me We are the race oh people of the Sun. Our ancestors in Africa hair reacted to the environment that we lived in which was extremely hot and closer to the Sun. I hair curled more and more where when it curled it spreaded and covered more scalp areas on the head and creating a natural shade to protect our heads in neck from exposure to the Sun and skin cancer. We wore afros when I was a young woman I'm proud of it and everybody call our hair that was black, each other hair curly because that's what it was. Your curls reflected your skin type that could be dry or even flaxen like a fair-skinned person with straight flaxen hair. You can have extremely coiled curly hair that is flaxen! 🙎🏿♀️ We are recognized by the fact that our hair dominates different patterns by curling whatever your genetic hair texture, everybody has their own unique curl pattern that is of the African Sun people, just like fingerprints! Know it, accept it and love it!🙅🏾♀️ This is coming from a 65-year-old extreme curly hair Queen.🙎🏾♀️
@jerseyreddjc3569Ай бұрын
@@J.A.G.618 no ma’am. There’s a difference between coily and curly. The problem is that coily haired people don’t like their hair being referred to as coily or kinky UNLESS curly hair is thrown into that mix.
@J.A.G.618Ай бұрын
@@jerseyreddjc3569 🙎🏾♀️ Young lady we didn't have the word coyly when I was a young woman with all of the different curly hair patterns we are known to have! I don't care how tightly curled or loose ringlets your hair be it springy or spiraled we called it curly hair! Our hair is not made of coils! that's a metal! Only metal are called coils! It's just a trend for some of you that heard somebody else use the word coily which is foolishness! We are a curly hair race of people we have different tightness of curls among Us a various ranges we are human beings that have curly hair that's what it was called when I was a young woman and not some word that was referred to as curl metal! Now if you want to be referred to as a metalhead you go right on! That word does not represent the curly hair race which is African and African related people! As if black people aren't part of the human race of human hair! You have humans that have extremely straight hair and then you have hair going into wavy then looser curls we called ringlets then tight curly to extremely curly or kinky and tightly curled spiraled hair! 🙎🏾♀️ We are the queens of curls of the sun people that are from Africa and nobody was a shame that was talking about it when I was young!! We black people refered to our hair as tightly curled hair!! And was proud of it!
@ravenrebel3183Ай бұрын
@@jerseyreddjc3569This-it’s classic self-hate and hair texture envy. And this older woman you’re replying to is just proof that the older ones were even more brainwashed by this propaganda after being exposed their whole lives to it.
@jerseyreddjc3569Ай бұрын
@@J.A.G.618 y’all had the word kinky or “tightly coiled”as per my elders. I know your feelings are hurt, but facts are facts. I guess you’re part of the crowd that believes anyone with curly hair must be black huh?
@TextureTalk1Ай бұрын
2:11 she's right though
@miguelaashoo7943Ай бұрын
4:30 a BM could say the SAME thing too! Would it be then ok?
@tintamanenguАй бұрын
It wouldn't offend me, but it's not out of this world to think s/o that looks like us might be referring to us. But if that's not it, you keep it pushing.
@mariepearl-harbour2335Ай бұрын
Coily, Curly and Kinky hair types are found predominantly in Afro-ethnic and Afro-ethnic/mixed/MGM Admixtures communities. Most European women don't have curly hair, only a small few do...
@LethalLemonLimeАй бұрын
This is not true lol. Coily hair (kinky isn't a curl pattern but a lot of coily hair is kinky) is exclusive to us, but curly hair is not exclusive to us. Like where are you even getting this from. I'm assuming your source is you made it tf up.
@mariepearl-harbour2335Ай бұрын
@@LethalLemonLime Go get a dictionary and read the definition of a coil . That should answer your question.
@GladToBeNaturalАй бұрын
@@LethalLemonLime I'm not gonna lie I have seen white ppl with natural fros but it's rare it's 4a usually in type 3. But I do agree black people have type 3 and type 4 hair
@ravenrebel3183Ай бұрын
Europeans are predominately in the type 2-3 range, with type 1 being outliers. They straighten their hair.
@ravenrebel3183Ай бұрын
@@GladToBeNaturalvery few black people have type 3 hair without admixture. Just check out most of Sub-Saharan (black) Africans…hair don’t hang down unless covered in that mud mix. Curls hang down naturally.