Tiny Whoop vs Eachine E010

[@jeffbrewster4024]

hey Andy. you said you built a mini in the 250z form. can you tell me what the video is called. I'd like to check it out

[@tristramneal2282]

Nice video - I'm just getting into quads and your videos are particularly eye-opening! One question: in order to power the little fpv camera you stuck on top of the Eachine E010, did you have to remove the plastic casing and solder the camera's power wires to something on the circuit board? Or is there an easier way? At the moment I have a JJRC H98 and a Mould King 33041, both of which I'd like to attach a little fpv camera to if possible, but am unsure of how the power set-up would be. I've seen videos of some bigger quads with two connectors coming out of their batteries, one of which can be used to power an fpv camera, but what's the best way with ones that don't? Thanks in advance; excuse my ignorance!

[@PuttingOnTheFoil]

Which of your videos is the one where you imitate a 250 quad at micro scale?

[@user-zw7zd3qv1w]

Hi Andy.Which would you recomend...the Eachine e010 or rather the Eachine e011

[@joaomarveloso1049]

Andy were you using the same camera on both of them? Is there a big difference between the QX90 and FX797T ? I bought a camera that need 5v so I cannot use with E010 and am wondering what would be the best option without going to expensive...thanks :)

[@AndyRCchannel]

both of these were the FX797T

[@blakemanahan6040]

Just putting this out there, the full tiny whoop consists of upgraded motors and batteries then you get a flight time of around 4:20. Great review.

[@thelongranger55]

Blake Manahan I think it’s a tinywhoop when you can actually WHOOP it !

[@qcsupport2594]

That was fun. Now which closet leads to the part of Narnia where you store all your quads?

[@AndyRCchannel]

90 percent of the quads that come in for review get broken so usually only the spares are kept

[@owenkilleen]

Hi Andy, can You tell Me what video tx and rx you use that can so cleanly allow you fpv through all these walls so well? what ghz and power? And brand etc Thanks in advance.

[@AndyRCchannel]

its the FX797T cam with fatsharks and nexwave receiver. aomway antenna. link is in the description cheers

[@TinyPirate]

What's the music (it's always a good idea to credit your music, btw)? :)

[@HuskyStudios]

I believe it's Akan walker - Fade [ncs release] but I could be wrong

[@ian1064]

Yes it's definitely that

[@uweschmidt6861]

Look it's just for 12.99 USD www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-Mini-2_4G-4CH-6-Axis-Headless-Mode-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-1066972.html?p=B4200913385416201708 See ya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amGvd3anm7KGetE

[@CatchCatchFish]

Hi Andy. Fantastic video! I would love to try this out, could you provide a link or any additional info on hooking up micro fpv camera to the Eachine quad? Thank you!

[@FabioKastro]

Is there any reason you linked the FX797T instead of the FX798T? Or just because that's what you used in the video.

[@AndyRCchannel]

I prefer the antenna on the FX797T its stronger

[@seanrohan3842]

I put the qx90 camera on my eachine e010 by soldering it directly to the battery connector on the circuit board. It seems to get very hot and signal cuts out when i throttle up the quadcopter. Any ideas?

[@jakelang4387]

4 years later and came here cause i have same prob...tried everthing

[@VespaUK]

Thanks for the video, I just bought the E010, looking forward to trying it out.

[@leetpg]

The range of the E010 is poor. From one room to the next, the signal is very delayed and often drops out. Other than that, the quad it self is great. Which batteries are you using in the E010? I installed a fpv aio cam on mine and get around 1 minute before its unflyable.

[@AndyRCchannel]

+leetpg the answer to those questions are in the video ;-)

[@jandomingo9806]

leetpg do the tx mod to boost range. upgrade the motors n u will fly longet. furibee from gearbest is like $8 for a set of 4. 46000rpm

[@heliav8r]

Was the Eachine's flight using the stock 150 mAh battery?

[@AndyRCchannel]

+heliav8r yes stock battery

[@tweak114]

what about possible battery upgrades andy ?

[@keithlucas6260]

Both EMax and Doinker 82mm are brushless quads. The EMax binds with the FlySky Trannis using the little button on the quad's mainboard. In any case the gauntlet has been thrown and micro-fpv racing thru the wiener balloons tacked on hallway walls is now all the rage and coming to an indoor location near you. Electron Pro now has 220mAh 45C batteries for the Inductrix, which is up from the 200mAh ones that come with their new fpv ready model. Both old and new models use the 15.12mm can inrunners, so dimension wise they are the same, but without testing the internal capacity we can only assume likewise. As far as the blades and surrounding structure, they work like micro-turbofans using the airflow "induction" principles so in theory you have 4 "jets" powering them and any mods to them will hinder rather than help. Maybe later there will be a "Shootout" of all of them, but in the meantime just fly-em like you need to beat your little brother, or vice-versa.

[@marciocardenas9337]

do you know if the eachine e20 transmitter binds with the eachine e010? the e20 seems like it has a better transmitter.

[@rayikaikin]

nice video! I feel like you should get better flight time on your whoop is it brand new because the plug from the quad is its biggest problem. i have an eachine on the way too! what's your opinion on the beebrain?

[@AndyRCchannel]

yes inductrix is brand new not seen the beebrain? got a link?

[@rayikaikin]

of course :) newbeedrone.com/products/the-beebrain-v-1-cleanflight-betaflight-compatible-flight-control-for-the-beeductrix-inductrix-quad?variant=26456019590

[@primozdobersek2581]

Whats that song called? It seems very familiar to me

[@johnusjohnson8972]

Looks like eachine are on a roll at the moment ,really tempted with this little quad. Great review.

[@silinalexandr]

Is it possible to use Devo 7E with any tiny quads and helicopters? or it has limited number of protocols?

[@AndyRCchannel]

the protocol has to have been hacked by the deviationtx team and you need to modify it physically with the modules

[@sirdankmcmemestar374]

I don't understand why people are having issues with flight time on their stock blade inductrixes. I got mine a few days ago and it came with the standard E-flite 1S 3.7V 150mAh 25C battery. My flight time is about 4:18 on average when I don't crash. Maybe I just got lucky and got a good battery?

[@AndyRCchannel]

sounds like it. first time iv heard of anything above 2 mins!

[@yabski]

flight times reduce when the battery leads wear out. Those JST 1.25 wear out fast.

[@nathantsoi]

my e010 flight time is like 30 seconds... what's your all up weight? are you using the stock battery?

[@OzFPVflyer]

The reason your not able to go higher is because of the weight of your cam, its not light like the FX798T which is about 4 grams and yours is 8 with cover on. Makes a huge difference.

[@dlovull1]

Andy well done video! For the E10 which of the 2 video cameras do you recommend? Thanks Dave

[@AndyRCchannel]

honestly they are all good. go with the cheapest :)

[@waicheonghon8912]

My eachine with camera will drop if I make aggressive turns. Is it the same for your whoops?

[@TedVanSlyck]

Were both batteries the same age? When I first got a whoop it flew around 3 min on the stock battery, but that soon dissipated.

[@AndyRCchannel]

i mean as far as im aware they are. bought both at same time of course u have no idea how long its been sat on the shelf in the warehouse...iv heard many people talk of a 1 min 30 flight time though

[@crsteli3463]

Hii How long will last the engines? ???They are brushed and I think they have short life span. I want to buy this quad copter but I am concerned will last short time. I had bad experience with syma x4 that last only a few flights ( believe 10 ) and engine died. Thank you for videos

[@AndyRCchannel]

iv not had a brushed motor die on me yet

[@hypertion]

E010 manual is... entertaining to read. they must have saved at least 10$s on not having proper quality control on that. from being a life long gamer, learning the reversed "mode 1" as you called it is pretty confusing but nothing too hard. that said i agree i would prefer "mode 2" as that is closer to how you would fly a craft like a drone in a game. all said, the E010 is very easy to fly and will handle first time pilots like myself. surprising to see how much longer it flew.... i knew it was a knockoff but i really didnt expect it to do better like that.

[@didactylos4diddy474]

Great comparison review. I'll have to stick with my toy and wifi fpv for now but that is another project for my list of quads to mod. Just one thing bugs me (it has on other videos too) Where were you flying from?

[@AndyRCchannel]

upstairs :)

[@octapc]

I have the Eachine E010 as well, and another 2 on the way and found it a great little quad. In comparison, the JJRC H20 was not a great buy and having two of them I made sure it was because of the quads being poorly built. Great mod, will add it to my to do job.

[@octapc]

sorry, the JJRC H20 is a hexacopter...

[@jairolenze11]

Ive been a fun of tiny whoop myself without having one, i believe the popularity of them is due to a variety of events with them, like race, building tutorial, tshirts you name it, i have my mind changed when i started follow your channel and discovered a new level of things we can do, for less!!! We should start considering organise a team MicroWhoop and do some races as well !!!!

[@kooper35]

Better than the eachine maybe but was it £12 all in?

[@CharlieCrossfade]

How many amps do you charge the E010 batteries at?

[@Chalky.]

Just ordered mine and I don't want to spend an extra £20 for the camera so I'm going to try fitting the 5.8ghz camera from my DWI Dowellin X6 which has a very long circuit board so not sure how well it'll fit yet, but the camera without all the plastics is only 5.1g so weight shouldn't be that much of an issue.

[@octapc]

I must have missed something, you listed the Taranis. Why?

[@AndyRCchannel]

+Nicholas Heidl its what I use to fly the whoop

[@gothicguy9494]

can use a 4 in 1 module to fly the eachine with it as well

[@dbm5540]

Question please. If i buy one of the cameras in the description do I need to purchace additional wires to hook up camera?

[@AndyRCchannel]

u can either chop the connector off and solder direct to the flight controller or buy a male 1.25P 2 pin jst connector to solder to the board (which is what I do)

[@dbm5540]

Thank you, I will try to find the jst connector wire

[@honestreview9019]

are the eachine e010s and tinywhoop same technically (motors, stability, speed)? I have the e010s with flysky but not sure whether i should buy the tiny whoop or stick to eachine e010s - please advise.

[@kenny444play]

can it get one of these to work with mode 1

[@neal4254]

will the quanum cyclops work with the eashine brand??

[@Alvaroeduardo]

You know, don't really have the whole tiny whoop experience until you change the motors and use a bigger battery with 30C , stock motors and battery are just too weak

[@AndyRCchannel]

+Alvaroeduardo this is my point really.. for ten dollars u do have the tiny whoop experience...

[@meatpole6286]

that makes no sense "don't really have the whole tiny whoop experience" um changing motors and battery means it's a custom tiny whoop now..... thats like saying you don't get the f150 experience until you put a power stroke motor in it

[@trevorc6793]

Hi Andy, I have the fx797t soldered to my Furibee F36 but I cant get a clean signal :( The instant I throttle up its impossible to fpv with it. Have you a suggestion what kind of 'filter' I could you please. Ive tried the additional power points on the front of the F36 FC but it was the same. If I connect the camera to another 1s battery, its not a problem but the weight is!!! Any suggestions mate please?

[@trevorc6793]

I ended up soldering a 5v up/down regulator from fpvhobby in-line which sorted this out. Its just strange that others have soldered directly to the +/- pins without interference?

[@trex9166]

Can it bind to a Graupner mz-12?

[@patrickcol]

How about adding a BeeCore FCB and running it from your Tarinis? And then maybe with hot motors and a Rakon frame?

[@AndyRCchannel]

sounds good yes!

[@schalliCA]

Hi Andy, am I able to bind the E 010 to the DEVO 7E without the mod ?

[@AndyRCchannel]

not without mod no cheers

[@schalliCA]

so updating to the latest version isnt enough ?

[@RCTVofficialchannel]

hey ive got a stock inductrix fpv rtf and a spektrum dx4e from blade 350qx2, ive bound the tx and got it flying but how do i setup acro mode, cos theres no screen or buttons on the dx4e, just the sticks and switches, plus u cant setup the fc in betaflight.

[@muleskinnerpro]

Can you please tell me where I can get different battery terminals or adapters to fit the Eachine 010. I have extra JJRC batterys but the terminals are too small. Thanks for any help, My searches didn't work.

[@karlsenfpv5301]

Hello! Have you upgraded the motors on Eachine E010 ? :)

[@AndyRCchannel]

no stock motors

[@karlsenfpv5301]

@AndryRC hello again sorry to bother you so much! But i bought this one: www.banggood.com/FX797T-5_8G-25mW-40CH-AV-Transmitter-With-600TVL-Camera-p-1042994.html it will still work fine right? it aint any weight diffrence??

[@AndyRCchannel]

thats the one im using yes it works

[@HubertDuijzer]

Any change of binding a micro with a futaba? Don't really want to buy a new tx.

[@AndyRCchannel]

+Hubert Duijzer yes but you would have to custom build it

[@bwolfe2514]

How much is a Devo transmitter?

[@drkavnger99]

been waiting on a good comparison of these forever. I picked up the eachine on Friday with a camera. now can't wait.

[@AndyRCchannel]

great happy flying!

[@ds3656]

When you say you can bind this to the Devo 7e is that just with the standard module?

[@AndyRCchannel]

+Darryl Sibson no it has to be modified

[@ds3656]

I've seen you do that and it looks far too fiddly for me. I seen chips that claim to be 3 in one (and even 4 in one) but I'll have to do more investigation before I crack open my brand new Devo 7e. I'll carry on with my Lantian FPV 105 build for now (waiting for parts). Out of interest where do you get your parts from in the UK?

[@AndyRCchannel]

i only ever buy from china :) however i get my motors from multiflite.co.uk

[@mtx450]

Great video, thanks for the comparison. Do you think the aftermarket Chaoli 6mm motors are worth it for this? Some people say they are and some say these stock motors are just as good?

[@AndyRCchannel]

+Dane Volk haven't tried them on this one however the 8mm ones are better than stock 8mm

[@jandomingo9806]

Dane Volk stock motors r too weak from my experience. furibee motors 46000rpm is eay better for it even with stock lipo.

[@tonyh455]

I enjoy all your videos Tried to fly the eachine with the tiny camera and used 150mah and 250mah 25c and only got about 45sec, could you tell me why. I do have the feed for the camera coming off the board

[@AndyRCchannel]

what cam are u using?

[@paulham]

Same here, any idea?

[@AndyRCchannel]

could be that the tx01 is drawing more amps than the fx797 or your quad has been sat dormant in the warehouse a while and the battery is shot. have u spare batteries?

[@kenstogie]

same here.... yup used 3 or 4 different batteries

[@kenstogie]

please help us andy! its turning to winter here and we have to have something to fly...

[@rcdronesandmore8648]

will it bind to my flysky fs t6 transmitter

[@Trizface]

I've heard that the angle you can tilt forward is far lower on the clone. The inductrix can actually get pretty fast even in level mode. upgraded motors and batteries are a must. I get about 2 to 3 minutes flight time on the whoop and it can even handle outside with the better motors if its not windy.

[@FullMetalHeli667]

That. was a "GREAT VIDEO" and comparison👍

[@AndyRCchannel]

thanks so much :)

[@Gpayne99]

what is the best way to go if i want to do mini drone fpv, but im a beginner, i dont know wiring really

[@AndyRCchannel]

this one is a good start :)

[@chrismetcalfe4827]

Does the E010 have manual/acro/rate mode, or only angle mode? Thanks!

[@chrismetcalfe4827]

just learned it does not! 4:35

[@littlephilo585]

could it be the different batteries. try to mod the plug and try. i would like to see that comparrison. nice video by the way. thank you.

[@Pijuli]

What batteries are you using to get that time? stock 150mA???

[@AndyRCchannel]

yes stock 150 mah

[@dbbiking5505]

Hi again where can I get parts for my horizon blade inductrix as one of my motors has gone I was thinking of getting a standard set of motors and a set of upgrades plus battery's thanks

[@bamboo6044]

Could E010 handle the weight of MC02 or motor upgrade is needed?

[@AndyRCchannel]

i dont think it could carry that one

[@bamboo6044]

Thanks

[@TheStickyBusiness]

Fan fact or Fun fact, The company that make this is NIhui, then eachine and JJRC immediately bought rights to sell it The product was publicized for a very short time as NIHUI NH010 but Eachine immediately reacted and then rebranded it as eachine E010 and then JJRC did the same and rebranded it as JJRC H36 . OH another fact walkera has stoped production of devo 7e and devo 10 :( . But is seems now there is a 3 in one module for Taranis. But is seems that Taranis compared to devo 10 has not enough memory to have all the protocols at the same time, not sure about this. I have not digged for more info. Awesome video by the way

[@petrfux]

Thanks for your review. One question: My e010 (and I have two now) always bounces around. It is really hard to hold the altitude. Any hint? Thanks in advance.

[@AndyRCchannel]

+Petr Mejzlik sadly altitude indoors is one of the hard things to master. I would say try flying line of sight a bit more. It really is about threading the needle indoors. Cheers

[@JustForFunRC]

haha awesome flight ending!

[@Bobster986]

Just get the Boldclash BWhoop B03 Pro. It has the biggest motors, Bigger controller, more powerful (and cheaper) batteries and its only $15.99

[@rschmidtschmidt6810]

Where

[@michaelreyes8670]

I'm getting into FPV by buying Eachine E010, EF01, EV800 and ProDVR during the anniversary sale. Anyone find a way to stick a 7mm motors on the E010 yet?

[@Apple1grApe2]

did you have stock motors on both?

[@AndyRCchannel]

yes both stock

[@jandomingo9806]

Daniel Willets furibee motors are a great upgrade. 46000rpm. set 4 from gearbest $8 something

[@joenewcombe9890]

Will the tiny whoop bind to any transmitter?

[@AndyRCchannel]

no just dsm2 compatible ones

[@joenewcombe9890]

okay thanks, will any fpv goggles work with the whoop?

[@AndyRCchannel]

pretty much these days yes

[@gregorydahl]

A 2.4ghz radio signal booster for $9 can extend the rc range of the tx on either one i think . Over 400 feet . As far as all in one video transmitter . The booster only solders to the ground and signal wire of the rc controller tx antenna . It needs 1s 5 volts .

[@deepdivevr7244]

hi mate. could you please try e010 blades on your qx90.....pleeeease ;)

[@Dod01]

Great review Andy 👍. I got my E010 a couple of days ago. I ordered Chaoli 6x15 with it too but I've not fitted them yet. I'll wait till I get better batteries before I fit them. I seen MicroRcfiend managed to fit a 300mAh nano-tech by cutting away the front of the battery bay. He said it give around two and a half minutes of good power but around four and a half minutes total flight time. Thx Dod.

[@Dod01]

He was just using stock motors. Thx Dod.

[@AndyRCchannel]

thx for the info dod will have to try that.

[@Lee_B_Futures]

Don't you think the flight time has more to do with the battery than the drone overall?

[@thijss1272]

just depends on what u add on it ;) with camera a higher c rating battery is recomended, (some need upgraded motor's aswell)

[@maff1917]

Your channel is growing realy fast. Thats Awesome!

[@AndyRCchannel]

Thanks for your support. with out it there would be no growth. cheers!

[@maff1917]

Cheers to you friend!

[@marcelljeney7358]

what are those walls made of,paper?

[@AndyRCchannel]

no they are made of the correct 5.8 frequency selected ;)

[@marcelljeney7358]

haha good one!

[@kenny444play]

Eachine E010 any ideas how to get this to work mode1 Thanks

[@AndyRCchannel]

theres a toy grade mode 1 conversion tutorial in the transmitter mods playlist. go check it out

[@jakelang4387]

I want to but my cameras go out when the motor turns on..not sure what im doin wrong ...need new cameras i gues

[@fromdarktolight6353]

i like your videos, very easy to understand and informative. thank you.

[@spodee55]

Weight Comparison?

[@NikolaG]

I think eachine mc01 is not a good choice for e010 because voltage is 5V min and e010 uses 1s aka 3.7v? EF01 or MC02 could be working.

[@danielskoog5565]

Quite a throwback to when the Tiny Whoop rage was just gettin started!

[@siim4205]

are you upgrade motors to ?

[@AndyRCchannel]

no the motors are stock

[@LegGiant]

Got to love the Devo 7e. You really should do the 2 3 position switches. Not as hard as the range mod.

[@HomedronevideosNet]

People like it because it is fun.. I too have many fast quads, but these upgraded are just close up awesome fun!!

[@lisarenee3505]

My understanding is that the Eachine / JJRC Inductrix clones have the polarity of the batteries reversed.

[@Mr3Kidneys]

It seems like everybody talks about the "blade protectors" as if they're optional and just for protection, they're not. They are not just a unique style of props, they are EDFs, ducted fans, not regular props at all. They have totally different aerodynamics and are the electric equivalent of a jet vs a prop. The result is a narrower, higher velocity jet of air that is more directed than standard props. That's why they have prop "guards" that are actually air ducts for directing and compressing the air. It's also what gives them they're unique flight characteristics, and why they have wider blades, more blades, and blades with a more aggressive angle.

[@AndyRCchannel]

that would be true if the motors were running at 10 thousand rpm but they arnt. take the protectors off and it makes 0 difference... do that on an and see if it flies

[@Mr3Kidneys]

I'm sure it would still fly for sure, you're right on that, but they still serve a pupose and there is a difference. They reduce/remove the vortices at the tip of the blades and increase the pressure, overall making them more efficient. That's the whole idea with EDFs. PS, I really like your channel, man!

[@BullFPV]

can u bind a taranis to it or do u need a module if so can u link me the module

[@AndyRCchannel]

u can bind a taranis to the inductrix using a dsm2 module but not the eachine

[@BullFPV]

thx dude

[@rossbassette7518]

You always do a really good job on your commentary and video footage. Keep It Up!!!!!!

[@OMGEdwardCullen1]

I own the Eachine E010 I did the camera and the prop mod....legitimately with stock motors and battery it maybe gets 1inch off the floor at full throttle ...Im not sure if I got bad quad or what

[@AndyRCchannel]

what camera are u using? thx

[@OMGEdwardCullen1]

Hey Andy, Im using the Eachine TX02 Super Mini AIO 5.8G 40CH 200mW VTX 600TVL 1/4 Cmos FPV Camera

[@baverona]

is my camera too heavy, or do i have to uprgrade the motors?

[@Phrancis5]

I stuck the super light FX797 camera with removed case, ziptie rollbar, and micro losi connectors on my eachine E010 and it barely flies with the stock 150 or 200mah batteries. I'm using full throttle just to stay in the air and hardly any flight time.

[@pitufolaiguana]

I am having the same issues... I have even moded the props to have only 2 blades instead of four but I cant fly this thing... there is something we are doing wrong or....

[@Phrancis5]

***** I suspect either some of these cheap quads weren't produced with the same spec parts or the lipos don't have enough output. Either upgrade the motors and or get lipos with higher C ratings. For the past year my slightly larger Syma X11 has been carrying the FX797 just fine with good power and 5-6min flight times. I'll probably just stick to that or get the QX-90.

[@OzFPVflyer]

Nearly 4 mins flight time is excellent for this EO10 unmodded and with FPV. Will be interesting to see if firmware updates (acro) and 7mm motors put this on par with the Whoop. Ill have to put one in the cart. Good review Andy...as always.

[@cyharmonics]

I dont know how i stumbled on your channel but I like what I'm seeing :D

[@AndyRCchannel]

thanks for watching :)

[@jmoonshine4223]

some of those little eachines i saw for 20 bucks says it does have the acro mode.

[@AndyRCchannel]

not this one. cheers

[@vitix11]

i have a DEVO 7 witch is compabile?

[@kenstogie]

Nice work Andy.... got a couple of the Whoop clones coming....and the goggles and the camera......

[@kurtvil8181]

Great drone! The JJRC H36 is even better. JJRC is the orginal manufacturer of this drone. Eachine buys it rebranded from JJRC

[@chrisbrennan5851]

3 min. of agressive flight would be nice, about what i get with my vortex 250

[@AndyRCchannel]

this is about as aggressive a brushed model will go

[@redneck1520]

The big whoop about the whoop is the crazy fast motors

[@OkiFPV]

Id love to get an FPV micro, but im still checking out the options. One thing for sure: I do want one with the protected duct-type motor guards. Not for damage, but for the fact you can "bump around" flying into things & carry on without crashing or having a prop come off. The QX models you reviewed look fantastic & work with FrSky out the box & have betaflight etc - thats brilliant!, truly! but they don't the duct guards. hmmm...

[@ConnorWeller]

Okinawa FPV you can get prop guards and they work fantasticly