POV: Your Girl's Girl Card has been Revoked

[@gabiayala2495]

Women like Ice Spice don't even get on my nerves anymore. When I see a girl who is constantly speaking on how she's better than other girls (especially based on appearance or sexual prowess) I just kind of feel bad for her. It doesn't matter how much money, fame, or attention you have if you're constantly in a one-sided competition or performing for male attention non stop, something deeper is wrong. I've had "friends" like that & just pray for them and continue living my life knowing I am loved and respected & I have my dignity. That's really what it all boils down to. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.

[@Genesisorgin]

Idk if she actually thinks that tho , majority of female rappers say stuff like that like rapping about stealing your man, having a better body ect

[@zariaanyanwu5339]

I remember when she had her come up all of these tik tok fans keep saying she was a girls girl and so sweet even tho we barely knew her.

[@savannaaah]

That’s how I feel about Ariana. You can only feel bad for the self-destruction.

[@Loveu2ufool]

@@zariaanyanwu5339( halo effect ) people love praising and hyping without knowing personality but by looks which we should work on as a whole 😖

[@gabiayala2495]

@@savannaaah Exactly!!

[@maleehadamda6814]

I agree that pick-me has lost its meaning. A girl in school called me a pick-me because I... like Spider-Man and reference him a lot????? I'm sorry I have a character that means a lot to me and inspires me everyday??? i literally go to a school where boys and girls are segregated. there aint any men around unless ur seeking them out in insta dms. its getting out of hand!

[@paddipat]

It's funny how the ones who claim to be progressive often live and talk by the stereotypes... Like people calling themselves non binary because they don't do what a "classical" individual of their gender would do. Yeah, I'm sure that helps destroy these stereotypes so that we all don't have to live after them... Just confirm them with your behaviours and sayings, I don't see an issue with THAT... same in your example. Oh no, Spiderman is just for the dicks out there, let's show that women we can't have that.

[@MeadowsintheGhettos]

I honestly hate to say this, but some of the same issues that I hear men talk about when it comes to dating, are some of the same issues that I have in female friendships. 🐼

[@zaylinstar8883]

THANK YOU 🙏🏾 OMG YEES.

[@butterflymage5623]

Why do you hate to say it though?

[@MeadowsintheGhettos]

@@butterflymage5623 as a married woman I try to stay out of that space of relationship rhetoric all together.

[@bayleedillmore7519]

Girl same! I don’t want to sound like a pick me but I literally only have 1 female friendship at this point and I wish I had more, but it’s a lot harder than it should be for me :/

[@MeadowsintheGhettos]

@@bayleedillmore7519 trust me. You are not alone.

[@Bbyluvvv]

Aside from the whole Central C debacle I don’t think Ice Spice is a girls girl. And if we’re really be honest most of these girls in female rap aren’t girls girls because they make it their business to compare their features, relationships, etc. They preach about being better than each other in every song and Ice Spice is a perfect example of it. Most of her music is about comparing herself to other girls and putting down other girls. Central C is the problem in that little triangle situation but regardless Ice Spice has never been a girls girl.

[@Genesisorgin]

Exactly especially when it comes to "stealing your man" majority of female rappers have a line like that in their music

[@marsx5886]

It's not fair to put this on them as rap has always been a competitive genre

[@Uobeor]

Ice spice always talks about how she’s taking everybody man but now that she’s doing it publicly people are shocked LMAO

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

If Baby Storme is to be believed, she was a bully in high school as well.

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[@cloeunderwood11]

pick me has been around for a lot longer than a few years

[@kerri6011]

yeah I remember using the phrase over a decade ago in middle school, and pretty sure it's existed way longer than that

[@jaydenhalverson2410]

I dont like Madelyn ( mainly the xenophobic stuff ) but Central C has been a cheater...and her fans have been known to attack the girls she doesn't do anything abt the hate and then gets back with him.... if ice spice was involved in it shes not a girls girl and neither is madelyn. Central C is the villain in this and i bet is making bank off a situation he created with ice spice and madelyn.. gross.

[@tinysey]

@@jaydenhalverson2410 yeah I feel like it’s a huge PR stunt to get money and attention.

[@slixameth]

Xenophobia?!

[@555starangel_]

@@slixamethYeah, what’s that about?🤨

[@BriannaNelson-e5d]

@@555starangel_ It means that she doesn't like ppl from other countries.

[@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise]

Central cee is a rapper of course he ain’t loyal

[@lele3112]

🐱 i feel like we should stop caring sm abt what celebs do in general lmao

[@skrittle555]

Can't girls and women just be nice to each other???? Revolutionary concept. Like I'm not in competition with anyone. I'm just living my life. If you do feel competitive with other girls or people in general, maybe work that shit out in therapy instead of taking it out on others. If my bullies had just gone to therapy I swear lol

[@lh9761]

Odd take: i think pearl took the end of her relationship and it twisted her the wrong way,.and instead of going to therapy, she went on a rampage and is publicly self sebotaging in a frantic panic

[@tinysey]

Oh I had no idea she had a break up. That makes a lot of sense though

[@sarahelizabeth9470]

@@tinyseyi could be incorrect but im pretty sure she had/has a fetish for Black men and the only boyfriend shes ever had in her life was a Black streamer and once they split up she went crazy with all the JustPearlyThings stuff… super weird 😬

[@lh9761]

@@tinysey yeah, I don't know the finer details but the internet keeps bringing up a specific ex. I think she's fighting herself

[@hilarycraig5360]

He was that tik toker that made angry faces as his main bit, like real close to the camera lol. I felt bad for her at first, because she was clearly so upset from the breakup, but at a certain point it was like girl....this is just not it.

[@Denise0001]

I feel like these movements that started out as something educational and interesting once they get excessive popular, they just become another way to classify, judge and put women against each other. Seriously, I'm starting to think that the people who are so obsessed with judging other women as "pick me girl" are already becoming the new "pick me, choose me" 🐰

[@A20-w8l]

Be an honorable human being. Honor your own relationships and respect other people's relationships, especially when children are involved. It comes down to self-respect and dignity.

[@sarapocorn]

I really appreciate you making this video. As a little girl with undiagnosed ADHD, I never really managed to foster longterm friendships with other girls. I to this day tick a lot of the pick-me boxes due to my interests. But at the end of the day, I truly appreciate the few but meaningful relationships with women I have built over the last few years. But the loneliness of feeling stuck between a rock and a hard place, (understandable) mistrust from women and objectification/sexualisation from men, has honestly been rough.

[@slixameth]

I’m so sorry but what does ADHD have to do with this??? I have it too

[@Anngrl69]

Honestly one of my friend’s with ADHD struggles with the same, and she definitely would have been labeled a pick-me girl if it weren’t for the fact she’s lesbian. But even then, it was very hard for her to maintain relationships with women in our sorority and at university.

[@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow]

@@slixameth read before you judge fam. oof

[@witchcraftandlizardry]

Relatable I was diagnosed over 25 years ago when I was 15 but it just made me work harder to find those girls like me and really nurture and foster deep relationships with them. I’m really off put when I’m talking to a man and I realize it’s looking at me like meat instead of listening to my words but with some men I feel this like they are just have a conversation with me as a person. Pick me is when you talk as if your interests are better than other ones like I don’t wear make up but I don’t bring it up and point it out or imply to wear make up is less than somehow so it’s not having the different interests it’s talking about them as if they are superior to other more feminine interests.

[@MsMvsc]

@@Anngrl69 lesbian's can absolutely be pick mes

[@madeleinegreen1878]

Love this vid! I appreciate you breaking down how social media takes terms and runs away with them. I feel like the ‘pick me’ women I have encountered put other women down, even their friends, in front of guys to get their ‘approval’, it’s childish and ignorant.🦎

[@zinab2blessa]

Most women are not ' girl's girl' specially when it comes to . The older I got the more I understood this. That is why I look for friends that care for humans in general and have a a high level of morals.

[@l0st_illusi0n23]

I have never loved the whole girls girl thing. I don’t like the idea of just blind allegiance to women. Like ofc there’s a time and place for it, but I don’t feel I need to give my support to someone simply because they’re a woman.

[@tinymogi]

exactly

[@imliterallynoonelol]

to me being a girls' girl is more about not putting other women down - opposite of a pick-me. and i think it makes sense that way

[@aninaelp]

it absolutely sucks how words can have their meanings totally skewed just because of people misusing the term. ily for speaking up on this!!! 🐈🐈‍⬛

[@holistichealingyoga]

Words have lost meaning you are certainly not wrong… the amount the kids and teens throw around kms scares me as a licensed therapist. But thank you for this great commentary! 🦀

[@NayHarrabots]

I really like your voice and the way you narrate, it's so soothing somehow 😭❤

[@SarahYusra-s7l]

Also men need to be held accountable for homewrecker mostly rappers like Drake future

[@flobrez2470]

Exactly I always wondered about women who say she stole my boyfriend. Well your boyfriend could’ve said no why don’t you blame him? People act like men are these helpless creatures seduced by women and they can’t help it. It’s all the woman’s fault. Let’s get real.

[@clairepettie]

I get so sad every time I see a female musician buy into the media's attempts to pit her against another woman in the industry. Nobody wins but men when it happens.

[@kerimanasilasila174]

Didn't spicy tell us from the beginning that she would take our boo? 😂😂😂 she was never a girls girl.

[@jaidasimone_]

People are being so weird like maybe I don’t understand the details but he broke up with his girlfriend and got with a new girl. Those women aren’t friends so I lm not understanding the outrage. Sounds very childish

[@tinysey]

That’s true too

[@aprilmazae4811]

i feel like a lot of people right now are hating on ice spice because in their view her 15 minutes of fame is over and they're sick of her. like i go in her instagram comments and its all hate comments--very weird. i kind of see this situation as people making a bigger deal out of it than they need to so they have an excuse to hate on her. i don't even know who madelyn is and i doubt a lot of these ppl did before this situation blew up. just my opinion.

[@putrijd5173]

it turned all the way back to girl on girl toxicity and competitive mentality sadly. and the worst part is every time we do this circle we always manage to skip the "maybe he's just a d-head" part.

[@colbyscreation7473]

@@putrijd5173society sadly finds it easier to be misogynistic than realize toxic and disgusting male behavior

[@Yellowstonervlogs]

It’s hard to find female friends in my area that aren’t helping the patriarchy take down all of their “competition”. It’s a very misogynist area of the country. A state that has zero areas where women earn more than men. It’s rough.

[@spring0f99]

Just stumbled upon your channel and I love the content! Amazing points made in this video btw. 🐶

[@tinysey]

@@spring0f99 thank you 🌷🐰

[@kristadowning4155]

All "pick me" means is a girl who has a different opinion, different interests, lives her life different then another girl. That's it. Also what's funny that i noticed the girl calling another girl that cares more than the one being called it. The "pick me" just doing her thing.

[@asher6492]

Yeah pick me has gotten completely out of hand! The amount of times I've been called a pick me for... not liking dresses? Or just having male friends in general?? Is kinda crazy

[@cleverhandle420]

Pick Me has been around for soooooooooooo long. Prob back in my parents day but back in middle school we used to call Pink the pick me popstar. She was such a woman hater and wanted to be liked so bad and took every opportunity to point out how she wasn’t like the other girls. Ironic that she when I heard the word come back into fashion it was to describe her. The issue that I have with the term being used today is that this new wave of feminism, and a lot of people don’t even consider it to be feminism because of these criticisms, is that the idea of feminism and being a girls girl is very white-woman centered, very middle-class centered, very need to have access to the Internet centered. And this isn’t just my opinion there’s been a lot of research about how this newest wave of feminism isn’t inclusive and focuses on a small group of women. It’s very non-inclusive and by design, unfortunately, exclusive. I think it’s why the Me-Too movement hasn’t picked up as much steam as it could have. When we used it, we used it to describe an internal issue of self hatred for things that were societally considered feminine and the strife between just being who you are as a person vs needing to be able to survive and thrive in a patriarchal society, but now it seems to be like if you don’t fit mold of this new age of feminism, whose values are based on white, rich, and “liberal” American values, then your chances of not being a girls are much higher. When in fact, women are not a monolith. We are very diverse and so are the pressures against us. Def look up fourth wave feminism bc you are understanding the issue fr. For me, I struggled getting along with girls when I was younger. I was the only melanin-skinned kid in my class until MIDDLE SCHOOL, I “grew up” early. Girls used to ask me at like 9 who did my lips, where’d I get my butt. Etc. I didn’t fit the mold, physically, and thusly, I was shunned. It didn’t help, I’m sure, that I was new. In third grade. Cliques were established. I was from the south and moved north. I had an accent. I liked different foods. I had different hobbies. Boys were just much more chill. And so that was my safe space for a long time. It wasn’t until late into high school and college that I found female companionship and I wouldn’t trade it for the world. We just get each other. We speak without talking. I can’t tell my husband so many things I tell my girl! It’s a safe space for me. And I think all women need that. Hair salons used to that space for women. U kno they’re trained in so much including recognizing DV and abuse. Men have barber shops. We need more spaces like that. Imo.

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

This comment is so real

[@alessiasutherberry]

What a brilliant video. You really made me think! Thank you so much for creating this enlightening and thoughtful video 💗🥰😘

[@AkaneRegal18]

I came here for the tea but I'm getting educated 🙌💖 Thank you for the history lesson Sis!

[@chunkymonkey9097]

this is very interesting. had no idea about ice spice but i know ariana got her lashings and even as a huge fan i can't say it wasn't justified. but i think one question a lot of people need to start asking is: did this woman at any point in time identify as a girls girl? just because someone doesn't identify as a pick me, doesn't make them automatically a girls girl. i don't think ice spice or ariana grande have ever really identified as girls girls. they have their female friendships, of course, but they (and im mostly speaking with ariana as im more of a fan of her) haven't really ever shown that. like ariana's songs are clearly about getting whatever man she wants at whatever cost 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@zinab2blessa]

Regardless of what these women say or identify as, it is immoral what they do. Like the Ariana Grande thing. That was just awful. Some people will pursue what they want regardless of how much hurt they cause another human being in the process. Same goes for how Rihanna/Kerruche and JB/Selena.

[@chunkymonkey9097]

@@zinab2blessa i agree with you, i just think people can’t accuse them of hypocrisy bc neither at any point claimed to be a girls girl. if karma gets to them yeah it would be sad regardless but i would not spend my energy upset on their behalf. it’s different than a woman who has been loyal and gets that kind of treatment

[@zinab2blessa]

I get what you mean. To me it is not about hypocrisy, it is about human decency, empathy and morals. These behaviours are just wrong regrdless of whether you identify as a girls' girl or not. Same goes for men.. That man leaving his wife and new born to be with Ariana is as gross.

[@roccafille]

What about being a human human. Caring about humans in general and not putting them in boxes. That sounds good to me 🤎.

[@tinysey]

@@roccafille I love that too

[@srey_p]

My friendships with girls has not had the best track record so I have very few friends. My sisters are my best friends. Also it’s quite annoying when people say someone is a “pick me” if they like sports or don’t wear makeup. I’ve gone through my makeup experimentation phase and I realized I’m just lazy and I don’t really enjoy wearing makeup. I like sports so I guess does that make me a pick me 😂 I could understand if it’s used in a way where I think I’m better than others but what I like or don’t shouldn’t classify as a pick me if that’s what I like.

[@nicolemagix123]

I think my issue with the term girl's girl comes from this policing of behavior by strangers online. In the case of Ariana, I feel like this intense backlash she received over her "homewrecking" was just unserious and weird because there are other harmful/odd things she's said and done that would warrant a reaction like that (her intense tanning, blaccent, or co-opting of Japanese language for aesthetics) but instead what's happening is this weird virtue signaling over things that in the grand scheme of things we don't know enough about as the public and shouldn't care that much about because it doesn't affect us. Whether or not Ice Spice is a girl's girl has nothing to do with actual feminism and change and its soooo frustrating to see the term girl's girl be watered down code for feminism or at least people treating it like these women are behaving like Pearl is.

[@Talia778]

What’s crazy is that mass admits she broke yo with him. So it’s clear that ice didn’t break up anything. I’m not saying what she did wasn’t messy bc it was. But I don’t think she needs ti be getting all this borderline racist hate 😭

[@miamoore5878]

She said she didn’t even get to break up with him

[@procrastinaster4553]

This video was super interesting! 🦦

[@tinysey]

Thank you 🐰

[@al1111]

loving your videos!! recently i deleted socials but ur videos are keeping me up to date with the zeitgeist lol. thank you!

[@tinysey]

Thank you 🌸

[@kerimanasilasila174]

First and foremost! Kendell has always been a pick me girl. How can she say she is not into make when she is a model and that is all they wear?

[@Roseswhispertome]

I really love this video! I feel like people are so mad about the whole thing with ice spice that they are starting to turn racist I’ve seen people call her a hood rat over this whole thing and it’s just like “are ya’ll really that mad 😭.” Also the whole meaning of pick me has lost its meaning as anyone can be called a pick me over the smallest things

[@bratzbaby7077]

Before this was called girls code… tiktok always tries to re-invent things

[@aisling6408]

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[@TheDonutAddict]

I think I found my new fav KZbinr! ❤

[@sadmermaid]

Tara Mooney also has a really deep take on this issue too, and the 'pick me' discourse, if you're interested:)

[@ktstellaterate]

TikTok generation really leaping to conclusions here. We didn't all think Kelly and Nelly were dating. We didn't think Dolly and Kenny were dating. I guess Enrique and Anna were dating, but tbf she wasn't a musical collab. 🐅

[@zachzackzak]

I've always found the whole pick-me thing demeaning. Just because a girl is being different doesn't mean she's doing it for male attention lmao, she may just be trying to establish her own identity outside of being a woman or a potential wife.

[@natt7758]

Great video but I don't agree with your point on Kendall. I believe that she truly is a pick me even in the clips that you chose to show.

[@SJP43]

I agree. Any chance Kylie gets to point out that she’s not like other women to men, she doesn’t hesitate. I commented that unpacking our struggles with misogyny in a misogynistic, patriarchal society that rewards such behavior is extremely difficult. I myself am constantly working on being a better human in this system and I can say it’s hard work.

[@pizzafrenchfries707]

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[@tinysey]

Thank you 🐰🌸

[@aniquethompson1598]

Omg! That original pick me scene from Grey’s Anatomy still makes me groan 😅. Hopefully Ice Spice and Ariana get their Meredith Grey redemption arcs some day. 🦦 kzbin.infoIe2BWI_gAgE?si=hsvTRmSuiPffdGLg

[@pigizmo]

After years of being a girls girl and a self proclaimed feminist, i realised that a girls world is so messy and just stopped having or making friends with girls. Too much emotions. Too much misinterpretations, misrepresentations, misunderstandings and the sensitivity is beyond. Being one is enough, being in a room full of girls with different personalities and moodswings is another. We're always pitted against eachother, we always end up going through what we said we dont ever believe in etc. and we're always tested so badly. Our friendships, our beliefs especially when it comes to men. We're always the victims of our own undoing. Just done with it. Even celebs are so messy for it.

[@commandery3574]

im going to be honest, i agree 100%. are there mature, healthy, grounded women out there? Yes. Are they under the age of 28? Unlikely. Same goes for men too n

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[@whelkpeopleofdoom]

Girl there are levels of pick-mes. You can't hold Pearl up as THE pick-me and say that unless women are like that then they aren't pick-mes. If they have to be put in order, then Pearl is like a nuclear, dangerous level pick me, Ariana is like mid-level, and Kendall is mild (btw, seems like you haven't really looked into the behavior that got her labeled a pick-me; she bullies other women and 100% acts above them for supposedly not being traditionally feminine). I have a lot of masculine interests and no one has ever called me a pick-me simply for having them, nor have I ever seen that happen to anyone else. You're doing that thing where you're trying so hard to be feminist that you are excusing some women's damaging behavior because you think being a feminist means supporting ALL women. Feminism is advancing women's power, acceptance, rights, happiness, equality, respect, etc. Sometimes there are women who do get in the way of that. It can be in big or little ways. They ALL deserve to be called out.

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[@Una_.06]

I wish more research would have gone into whats actualy happend with the madeline situation, because a little bit of research would have told you ice spice was the one to have first claimed to be a girls girl and then she did wat she did and clearly mocked madeline so people are 100% allowed to call her out for that , nobody cared weather they were dating or not again a little bit of research would have told you it was the lack of information given to madeline about what they were doing that really got people riled up, they've also made their business public people dont need to know the full truth because theyve shown what they wanted to, what could possibly be the bigger picture? ice spice is only really liked because of her body and the fact shes light skin so its no suprise people are tired, if shes didnt have that none of you would be defending her or finding ways to excuse her behaviour, her musical abilities are also questionable the way people look to defend light skin women, who fit the beauty standard in a way that they would never do for others never ceases to astound me because why are people infantilising her and acting like shes some innocent little girl who had no idea about what was going on shes a grown ass woman shes aware, and there is 100% an expectation for women to look out for each other because if not us who else? Its certainly not men, if we dont look out for and help eachother then there really is no going forwardz im really shocked people are finding ways to let ice spices actions slide, while not everything celebrities do are our business, they represent us their followers, thats literally why theyre celebrities in the first place, so whys it such a suprise for us to dislike and repremand actions that go agains their whole character, the very reason we follow them, its also importaint to realise the majority of ice spices followers are women so she will 100% get far more hate because most women disaprove of such actions, central cees audience is mainly male and as we know those men dont care because they lack integrity, i wish a little more research would have been put in

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I find it weird you linked girls girl to the Ice Spice situation, especially as it became very racialized very quickly. Lol the way those white girls reacted had nothing to do with angry about a girl code being broken and more the racial hierarchy. Ignoring the racial undertones is ignoring the full context to the reactions.

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wrong ‘your’ in thumbnail

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It’s the right one , you’re is you are like you’re pretty, you’re running too fast.Your is talking about something that belongs to you like your mom, your phone, your eyes, etc. a tip to remember the one with the e at the end means it’s you are no e just you basically

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@@UnbotheredIdkshe changed it. it was ‘your’

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[@michellejanice5501]

Every time I make friends with other women they end up being pick mes

[@yagirl177]

Kind of a pick me thing to say lmao

[@madd7e]

@@yagirl177explaining a situation where women did you wrong/ acted in a way you didnt like, doesnt make you a pick me. this commenter isnt saying this for male validation or to put those women down, just explaining their experience with friendships

[@yagirl177]

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@@yagirl177can you explain the joke? I genuinely don’t understand where it is

[@CurrentlyReading14]

🦭 Great analysis! I do have to disagree on Kendall not being a pick-me though. The way she says certain things was definitely meant to put down Kylie. 🫠

[@_anshin_anshin]

🦝🐀🐈‍⬛🦨🦦🦇🦔🦡🐿️🦫🦧🐘🦥🦙🦌🫏🐖 i cant choose 😭