Tobias’ Full Legendary Pokémon Team EXPLAINED (Pokémon Diamond and Pearl)

[@ThePokeRaf]

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[@jasmandeepbanga5065]

he could have a legendary titan, as in go's token episode he encounters a regiice. Since all of the regis are supposed to be held by brandon, this could mean that there are multiple of the titan pokemon

[@jasmandeepbanga5065]

also we have had no indication that there were more then 1 hoho, but since there are multiple lugias it could be a possibility, but then again tobias has a darkrai which we never knew there was more then one of them until x and y

[@sunflow57]

Thank you :)

[@insanemakaioshin]

Why does having Latios imply he has Latias, but Entei means he doesn’t have his counterparts! That seems like a double standard. Especially for Darkrai and Cresselia! If he can’t have Ho-oh, he can’t have Lugia! My take would keep the same 1st 3 as yours, Heatran, Zapdos(I agree with your reasoning for those 2) & Deoxys (because I consider Regigigas as the land version of Ho-oh & Lugia & agreed with the rest of your comments throughout the video & found it the most probable.)

[@user-gm1wl4ce1j]

I think he has a Lucario because Pikachu is seen battleling Lucario in the Japanese opening during the sinnoh league rigth after the shots of Darkrai and Entei

[@64man100]

if he has a full team of legendaries, i'm taking away his action replay.

[@jugalkishor4569]

By Speculations, Half of his team is Legendary. 1) Darkrai {Ace} 2) Latios 3) Entei - Opening Song of Sinnoh League Victors where Ash's Pokemon were battling Darkrai & Entei. Only Tobias had Darkrai in Sinnoh League so most probably He also has Entei. 4) Lucario - This can be as well. Cuz in Japanese Opening of 4th Season of DP series. Pikachu was actually battling an unknown Lucario + Tobias is capable of training a Lucario. 5) Latias or Cresselia - Can't Say but Cresselia won't be cuz she is featured in Recent episodes 6) Any Sinnoh Starter.

[@doceonbane7443]

If you do that he'll just pkhex them in with Powersaves.

[@giurado6485]

@@jugalkishor4569 alakazam since tobias name in japanese means prodigy

[@oneraser]

@@jugalkishor4569 I imagine Tobiad's starter was Infernape

[@Marvelsdisneydreamuniverse]

@@jugalkishor4569 there are multiple Cresselia because there are multiple Darkrai. Lugia or one of the legendary birds would also be Pokémon Tobias would own.

[@Abc123______]

Tobias needs to get a Pokémon evolutions episode.

[@Lekyuu92]

THIS

[@AnimeMaze0]

Just imagine he returns in JN, & have a rematch battle with Ash!!!

[@Ashyboy170]

I have been waiting like forever for that

[@Apple11235]

I starting watching journeys only bcoz there is the faintest possibility of him returning

[@kanakroy5673]

I think he can return in masters 8...or maybe in hyper class as they don't have to revil his full team if he return in hyper class they can revil only 3 Pokemon 🤔🤔🤔

[@michaelaburns734]

Oh no. I hope not.

[@Apple11235]

I want ash to win against tobias and that would be a fitting redemption after what he did in lily of valley conference

[@creepys7891]

In the Japanese intro it showed Pikachu fighting a lucario. I think it’s possibly confirmed he had a strong Lucario who helped him catch those legendaries

[@brendonharris9310]

Not even close

[@MisanthropicHaze]

@@brendonharris9310 I mean logically he had a non-legendary he used to catch the legendaries.. VERY doubtful his starter was Darkrai or Latios lol.

[@flamboyantwarlock7101]

@@MisanthropicHaze We've seen the way Legendaries can bond with people in the movies, especially Latias and Latios. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if his first Pokemon was a Fateful Encounter with one of those two.

[@MisanthropicHaze]

@@flamboyantwarlock7101 That would not only be hard to believe, it would honestly also take away from his talent. He would go from being a dude who conquered legendaries to just a dude who got picked by one. It just makes more sense narratively for him to have an actual starter.

[@fg009letyrds8]

​@@MisanthropicHazeOr he's just too talented Legendaries goes to HIM to be trained by HIM

[@keeganguyer5237]

I would like us to see how Tobias encountered and caught all of his legendaries if and when he comes back.

[@jld12er30]

you didnt know he caught a bunch of starly and used PKHEX to change them to legendaries LOL

[@igorgiuseppe1862]

nah, some things are better if left as an mystery.

[@rece5232]

@@igorgiuseppe1862 that’s what I think their plan is to never reveal anything else about him because he was so mysterious

[@yeahright1089]

@@jld12er30 😂😂

[@gincoopland6545]

Apparently he won all 8 badges using Darkrai... so he caught it with his starter pokemon...?

[@clintivanorsolino9518]

Tobias: *reveals All His Legendaries* Ash-Greninja: Satoshi Sensei, I Will Not Dissapoint You.

[@eljordinio7647]

Greninja can start proving himself by coming back already!!

[@kidszergaming4815]

Ye

[@xXPIEATERXx]

*Brings out Arceus, Origin Palkia and* *Dialga, Giratina, Necrozma*

[@Shin-gn7ng]

⁠@@xXPIEATERXxultra necrozma

[@UltraPancake-qe6vh]

@@xXPIEATERXx no bid oof and clodsire

[@sriharivenkataramanan]

If he is having a full legendary team, then he is literally a legendary spammer in Showdown. BTW great video mate

[@maheshmovs]

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[@vegetalover9297]

And he still lost to Cynthia

[@SpiritedFalcon]

@@vegetalover9297 It wasn't confirmed whether he fought Cynthia or not.

[@vegetalover9297]

@@SpiritedFalcon I thought it was

[@Jallu555]

@@vegetalover9297 Its not confirmed in a straight manner, but Cynthia was STILL a champion in Pokemon black and white, which means no one has defeated her, so there is only three options : 1. Tobias did not want to fight Cynthia 2. Tobias lost to Cynthia 3. Tobias lost to a elite four member

[@andreagambelli9945]

Dunno why but I think Deoxys would fit really nice in his team.

[@ivandekad7249]

RIGHT? cause we know for a fact there could be multiple Deoxys

[@animorph17]

@@ivandekad7249 Could be? The whole plot of the Deoxys film is that one deoxys is looking for another. It's primary ability is being able to make a few thousand clones of itself for an alien invasion. Brendon then catches a completely different deoxys right after Ryquaza smashes the meteor apart. And then Max makes friends with yet another baby deoxys over in kanto! Within a single generation we saw four of the damn things crash into the planet, and any one of them might come across tobias.

[@TheInstantclassicffa]

I agree, specially because if he has one it doesn't mess with any previous event that happened in the anime as Deoxys is not an important part of the Hoenn story. If there was multiple Deoxys or Tobias just having the only Deoxys in existence won't contradict anything so it's fair game.

[@so_qp]

Actual Tobias complete team: 1. Darkrai 2: Latios 3. Chuck Norris 4. Thanos 5. Sauron 6. Jesus Christ

[@kriscross9630]

LMAO

[@jonconnal134]

We know that Cynthia comes back later, and is still the champion. I wonder if that means that Tobias doesn’t have a full legendary team - because “logically” nobody is clapping 6 legendaries. But then again, maybe he didn’t even challenge the Elite 4 and Cynthia so that he could continue his travels and not be tied down in Sinnoh as the regions champion? I hope we get to see him again another day

[@prodecks6654]

dont underestimate cynthia, she is hyped up in the games and the show as basically the second most powerful trainer on the planet, now the third after he defeat at ashe's hands, who's become a master, with leon as number 2 and cynthia number 3. even then, as the third strongest trainer, if ANYONE can solo a team of legendary pokemon, its the likes of cynthia. especially if others on tobias's team were weak to dragon types, like garchomp.

[@alexsch2514]

​@@prodecks6654yeah. And Cynthia is someone who studies legends. That woman was probably prepping for that fight like batman. And he had to beat the elite four first, which were shown in the show to already be leagues above Ash. So by battling them he may have revealed more of his team making prep even more possible.

[@Zactoshi]

FACE REVEAL!? 😱

[@suklasinha303]

Are u real

[@ThePokeRaf]

Even before KOGA came back 🥲

[@Omzstarrr]

@@suklasinha303 yeah, he's verified and check his channel

[@jugalkishor4569]

By Speculations, Half of his team is Legendary. 1) Darkrai {Ace} 2) Latios 3) Entei - Opening Song of Sinnoh League Victors where Ash's Pokemon were battling Darkrai & Entei. Only Tobias had Darkrai in Sinnoh League so most probably He also has Entei. 4) Lucario - This can be as well. Cuz in Japanese Opening of 4th Season of DP series. Pikachu was actually battling an unknown Lucario + Tobias is capable of training a Lucario. 5) Latias or Cresselia - Can't Say but Cresselia won't be cuz she is featured in Recent episodes 6) Any Sinnoh Starter.

[@paulus6189]

It kinda work in a way

[@chandlerbing3710]

you're missing the god Bidoof

[@jugalkishor4569]

@@chandlerbing3710 😂😂 HM master Bidoof

[@thegrandzeno1404]

@@chandlerbing3710 I'm freaking knew it someone is gonna say "Bidoof" thanks Bud 😂

[@MrJAgb]

Tobias was born in Hoenn. So I think he started with a Mudkip. I would say his team would be: - Swampert - Lucario - Latios - Latias - Entei - Darkrai

[@legofan4409]

I loved seeing a character like Tobias, someone who is skilled enough to capture legendaries and smart enough to use them in the league. Seriously, he feels like a player character who, just like most of us, decided to get the best team he could and then use it to win. I think for the anime they wanted a cool "boss" fight for Ash, but Tobias is honestly just a very interesting character - how DID he catch those pokemon? Where did he come from? What are his goals now that he's won? I'd love to see him return, even though it is unlikely. I wanna see the rest of his team haha

[@Nitro2393]

I like the idea of what you said that “he feels like a player character who, just like most of us” and I can see that. Maybe that’s the idea they were going for on here?

[@bukojoetheslapsoils8273]

@@Nitro2393 Never have I used a legendary Pokémon in my main team even as a child decades ago. I remember finding them too slow to level up. XD

[@stonalisa3729]

@@Nitro2393 the idea they were going for is preventing ash from winning sinnoh

[@SJW906]

He was just introduced to stop ash from winning. They wanted to continue the anime and if they let ash win the sinnoh league they wouldn’t be able to do that. He also completely disappeared after that episode.

[@griffingeraghty5147]

Yeah it’s a gold mine they’re never going to let us see

[@crustykrabboi6668]

We need a return of Tobias I enjoyed him being so mysterious and trying to find out his team.

[@bezretmet]

literally my least favorite episode and worst part of the sinnoh campaign was this guy. seeing ash go out like a chump after beating paul was sooooo bad

[@Abc123______]

Lmao imagine he shows back up for the next league with a UltraNecrozma, mega Rayquaza, and an Origin arceus.

[@miuki2721]

Flee

[@jonnyrico3583]

Bro gonna catch the god of pokemon 💀

[@STWAREdits]

@@jonnyrico3583he probably will considering he had 2 confirmed legendaries IN THE 4TH SERIES

[@Pokeferlax]

Awesome video!! I definitely agree on some of your options, especially Entei & Latias! I never used to be too big on the Lugia suggestion because I felt like it would overshadow Darkrai, but I liked your reasoning behind it. I personally think his full team is Darkrai, Latios, Latias, Entei, Lucario and then maybe Heatran or Zapdos. I know Lucario isn't a Legendary Pokemon, but it's pretty legendary nonetheless haha. Let's hope we see his full team someday! Keep up the great videos, I really enjoyed this one!

[@ThePokeRaf]

Thank you!

[@venjustice6666]

Yea I'm leaning more towards this because Lucario is a pseudo legendary still having the legendary title. It's possible that it's heatran because the trainer with the heatran was never shown again so assuming that the anime writers was trying to show a pokemon that Tobias has but with another trainer to throw us off. I'm not sure about regigigas because of Brandon. Trainers have lots of the legendary birds.

[@SpiritedFalcon]

Lucario appears right after Entei and Darkrai, so it could be a possible candidate.

[@SpiritedFalcon]

@@venjustice6666 Lucario isn't pseudo legendary.

[@venjustice6666]

@@SpiritedFalcon oh damn I thought I saw somebody say that I don’t remember

[@metascrub285]

They honestly have to really bring back non game characters like Paul, Tobias and Alain back already

[@pokelover1743]

good list! if tobias returns in journeys with a team like this...holy crap ash and so many others would have a tough time being able to defeat him

[@ThePokeRaf]

Thank you

[@LucianDevine]

Which is exactly why he'll never return. There is no good storyline you can craft with a character like that. Anything that a normal trainer struggles with, or even Ash, Tobias easily crushes, and anything that Tobias actually struggles with absolutely CRUSHES normal trainers. The only people that can really challenge Tobias are likely elite 4 members or region champions.

[@leeannnichols8669]

If he would’ve captured non legendary Pokémon Ash would’ve been the next champion of the Sinno region

[@MizuHime07]

Before we knew he had Latios, my bro and I joked about what his team would be. So we said “watch the remaining 5 slots are all shiny Magikarp”

[@ernest292]

Darkrai was his 1st Legendary capture. So Before Latios he would have that Lucario in the Japanese opening then Caught Latios & Entei

[@MizuHime07]

@@ernest292 dude did you not read the comment carefully, I said we joked that what if his remaining Pokemon were magikarp because all we knew he had was Darkrai. This was before he sent out Latios to the battle. Also we didn’t watch Diamond and Pearl all the way through, we only saw bits and pieces and most sites would cut out the opening theme.

[@tonpalacios2964]

Always hoped and wished they would put Tobias in the remakes or even in B2/W2's PWT. Would definitely have been dope to see his full team and to battle him.

[@goomba9956]

You all have it wrong. His confirmed team is Darkrai, Latios, and the rest are kakuna.

[@ernest292]

Actually Entei and A Lucario was confirmed in Japanese opening. Possibly Lugia

[@The_Lovey_Informer]

It was a joke

[@TheWowza48]

After reading ashes of the past, I have a hard time thinking of Tobias's starter not being a Delphox.

[@JayRdgz94]

I remember being a young kid watching that episode & as soon as I seen he had a legendary & then another I was sooo pissed cause I knew my boy ash was gonna take that L…

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

The entei one is something that always caught my attention as it very much could have been a part of Tobias' team imo. As right after Infernape clashes with it we see Buizel clash with Darkrai which we know belongs to Ash as no one else at that point uses Buizel. It is interesting how so many legendaries showed up at that point of the series. Idk if Journeys will show him but it would be nice to see him again even though we know what he did...afterall Ash did reference Tobias during the Cresselia/Darkrai 2 parter with Dawn!

[@kalosresident7574]

One of his best videos yet, and he's worked really hard on this, so please show him all the love you've got!

[@ThePokeRaf]

🙏🏼❤️

[@ultmewtwo]

@@ThePokeRaf he still lost his battle vs the champing so he most likey did not get a chance to to enter the champ torment

[@Phoenix_NH]

Interesting idea, but I would keep the legendary titans on the list. We already know multiple of legendary Pokémon can exist (moltres being seen in Kanto, Orange Islands, Sevii Islands, and Kalos, for example) and I can definitely see Tobias having a regirock or regice.

[@TheInstantclassicffa]

This does not confirm that they are different Moltes though, technically it could be the same one every time. I do agree that it has been showed that there could be more than one of these legendary species but we do not know which one there are multiple unless it has been explicitly confirmed and to be honest if there's only one or multiple of these mons is only decided based on the plot that the anime needs.

[@QuokkaWaka]

I don't think there are multiple titans, though Given that they were made by regigigas, and that arceus didn't like it, I think they are all the only ones of their species

[@emmnguerrero3769]

is there only one legendary in the whole regions? one is to one in other word? if you catch suicune, there is no suicune now in other regions because u already catch one and only suicune right? correct me if i am wrong

[@HybridHero]

Lugia? Yeah my man deserved to win

[@ThePokeRaf]

😭😂

[@michaeldaniels642]

Cameron had 6 Pokémon. His next battle showed it to be Watchog. It was clearly seen with the rest of his knocked out Pokémon when he lost.

[@dustinbenzel8704]

Raf meant that Tobias wouldn't have only relied on only bringing 2 Pokemon or less than 6 so he definitely had 6 Pokemon. The point is Cameron didn't realize a full battle was 6 Pokemon and ONLY brought 5 Pokemon so therefore had Ash defeated 5 Pokemon, Cameron would've lost, likewise Tobias would have had a FULL team so its not like if Ash did outright defeat Latios, Tobias would've shrugged his shoulders and said "I have no more Pokemon"

[@michaeldaniels642]

@@dustinbenzel8704 wait, that's what happened in the anime? I thought he had 6 the whole time and the reason it was blank was because they hadn't decided at the time what Cameron's sixth would be but, he did have six. Where is it stated he only brought 5 to his battle with Ash?

[@dustinbenzel8704]

@@michaeldaniels642 No what happened is Cameron only had 5 Pokemon with him when he battled Ash because he thought a full battle was only 5 Pokemon, upon learning it was 6 Pokemon he used 6 Pokemon against Virgil. So had Ash defeated Lucario he would've won the battle. There's a reason why the battle with Cameron is the most hated league battle, even more than Tobias. Know that these episodes especially back to back episodes are made far in advance. So it makes no sense that they wouldn't have decided on Cameron's 6th Pokemon when fully animating the episode, and just randomly gave him a Watchog against Virgil. Episodes are made months in advance.

[@michaeldaniels642]

@@dustinbenzel8704 oh, well that's dumb. Did they really need to make him so dumb?

[@dustinbenzel8704]

@@michaeldaniels642 No but they did, so it is what it is.

[@cockerspanielfan56]

I know, his Sceptile was able to withstand the dark void and dream eater and managed to take out Darkai after it had taken damage earlier from Gible’s rock smash. Ash unfortunately lost after Pikachu was KO’d along with Latios and Tobias had some Pokémon left over. Even though Ash only made it up to the semi finals, it was still a good battle and we were able to see Torkaol and Swellow in action after their last appearance in the Hoenn saga.

[@blessedphoenix6229]

Short as their appearances were

[@papipepino.]

I don’t see the point of this comment

[@abloogywoogywoo]

He'd have one non-legendary Pokemon. His starter, but this Pokemon would probably be his strongest since it enabled him to catch legendary and mythical Pokemon. So Ash the 2nd strongest trainer in the tournament was in no shape to confront the best of Tobias' A game. OOF.

[@matheussandbakk9959]

But his starter could very well have been a legendary or mythical. Pokemon like Darkrai, Latias, Latios, Phione, Shaymin or Celebi come to mind as they're one of the few legendaries and mythicals confirmed to be in multiples in the anime. I don't personally think he has a full team of legendaries, but doesn't mean he couldn't. Also it's possible to ditch a starter when doing a competitive team.

[@ultraomenmurat9937]

@@matheussandbakk9959 Paul did ditch Chimchar, but I think Tobias isn't like Paul tho.

[@matheussandbakk9959]

@@ultraomenmurat9937 Meant more like putting it in the pc or at home instead of the team, not literally releasing it

[@franserhart4149]

Wasnt it mentioned that he defeated al the gyms with only his darkrai?

[@papipepino.]

Not everyone keeps their first pokemon in their party dude

[@pikadavid8]

I've always imagined Tobias's full team being Darkrai, Latios, Heatran, Suicune, Zapdos, and Mewtwo, but I can understand your choices and do respect your opinion.

[@animorph17]

Getting mewtwo would be the only one that doesn't make sense. All of the others are a species with a population, and multiple individuals some with drastly different personalities. Mewtwo on the other hand, there are only two of them in existence, and whether it's the boy mewtwo or the girl one, the only way you're keeping them in the ball is diplomacy. Red manages to "sorta" catch the first mewtwo, and in the manga they go on adventures together using a giant spoon as a club. The second mewtwo is more stable, less insane, but also not very combative.

[@smmshoe]

but suicune is with the gang

[@ernest292]

Not sure about Heatran & Zapdos. But Entei is confirmed in Japanese Opening. Also Mewtwo is elusive so no chance on that.

[@leonardomeloni69]

his is a conjecture, it's yours that is just an opinion. Entei is confirmed. So Heatran cannot be there due to being another fire type, and Mewtwo there's only 2 in existence. One of which belongs to Red

[@STWAREdits]

@@animorph17nah it’s just he’s him

[@jibbersdelight1616]

If ever ash would have a rematch with Tobias and hopefully he does, he better bring his *A-Game*

[@maheshmovs]

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[@victorowen2592]

He's basically us as the main character of the game, thrashing his rival with straight legends lmao

[@NiallKelly]

I heard even Tobias uses Mansacaped😎Fantastic video bro!❤

[@ThePokeRaf]

😂 thank you bro! ❤️

[@ulquiorralc4296]

Tobias is an AR Code User Player. Perfect for The Cheat Engine Generation. We haven't seen any trainer like him. It's like they were promoting AR Cheat Engine.

[@axels3188]

This is very interesting and I think this could be Tobias’s full team also The opening also showed Pikachu fighting a Lucario so Tobias could’ve had a Lucario as a member and probably the only Noun legendary of his team.

[@waltdeezy11]

I would had replaced lugia with lucario if that was the case. Lugia is too ace material imo to be in the back end of his team.

[@ashseviper7462]

If Ash and Tobias will have a future rematch. I would love to see the him having the following vs Ash's team. Tobias. Vs. Ash 1 DARKRAI vs Gengar 2 LATIOS vs Pikachu 3 Latias vs Dragonite 4 ENTEI vs Greninja 5 ZERAORA vs INFERNAPE 6 REGIGAS vs MELMETAL

[@DARKSAGE251]

I’d change gengar to sceptile make it 2 rematches for two of ashes pokemon

[@brendo6196]

Tobias still wins with 3 pokemon left over

[@ThatOneGuy___]

Tobias is basically every 10 year old's team. The second they get a legendary/mythical, instantly on the team.

[@Omosisthefuture]

Watch Tobias return after Ash beats Leon and just sweep him easily again for no reason.

[@BestInTheWorld365]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Heatran is one of his Pokemon.

[@user-id1ou7sm1k]

Tobias is basically me, in every pokemon game.

[@HittingBandy]

I don't watch Pokemon that often, so my first time hearing Tobias' character was when my friend literally said: "That one guy in the anime who treated the anime like it was the Pokemon games" This actually being my first time seeing Tobias' 1/4 full power, I could say that he is correct.

[@LimitlessInvestor]

I would love for his return and Ash bringing back Greninja and beating him.

[@7666joseph]

Infernape greninja charizard lucario dragonite and pikachu

[@avalac7412]

Septile needs to be in that lineup

[@shadytip2329]

writers be like:CRAP WE MADE ASH TO OP TIME TO ADD A LAST MINUTE TRAINER WITH LEGENDS TOBIAS

[@aikee2447]

It is nice if Tobias' will appear on future episode's of shord and shield, he will be a tough contender for ash or go for the project mew as we all knew tobias love to collect a over power pokemon.

[@maheshmovs]

New episode of pokemon goals link 👉👉👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3PJineFrbKcaJo don't miss it frnds

[@oye4103]

ash is trolling for bringing a fcking gibble in a tournament 😂

[@Kevin_OE]

I like to believe he had a level 2 Rattata in case he needed to have a last resort

[@josephmarsh8235]

This was a great video of what Pokémon Tobias could've owned. I really loved it. I hope he returns sometime and we learn more about him.

[@ThePokeRaf]

Thank you

[@josephmarsh8235]

@@ThePokeRaf you're welcome 👍 as always love your videos

[@blksheepramirez]

How I’ve waited to see this video Thank you lad

[@ThePokeRaf]

Thank you

[@ShayTheValiant]

I actually think it's pretty likely that Tobias could have had a Deoxys on his team, in my opinion. Deoxys has appeared multiple times, whether it be in the movies or in the show. One of its show appearances was actually in the Sinnoh region. Plus, it fits in with Tobias' battle style of using fast Pokémon. I wouldn't put it past him if he had one.

[@7666joseph]

If ash and tobioas has an rematch I’ll love to see ash pick greninja infernape charizard pikachu dragonite and Lucario man ohhh man that would be a fight to see

[@ucproductions5810]

Except for Torkoal and Swellow, Ash and his team did a fantastic job against Tobias. Both Trainers were pretty good sports about the battle afterwards and I liked how Ash wished Tobias luck for the finals.

[@AngelloDelNorte]

Tobias didn't show up in master 8 because that's too weak for Tobias to participate.

[@rvnvify]

"he captured these pokemons unwillingly" aren't most of them caught that way? lmaaoo

[@andreihlen7597]

plot twist: He won't return for the world cup, he will return for project mew, and be the one to catch mew right infront of goh seeing he doesn't have enough mythical pokemon already

[@HeartCloud]

Great video, Raf! Thanks for explaining Tobias and his OP team!

[@ThePokeRaf]

Thank you

[@Omosisthefuture]

Imagine if Tobias only had just 2 pokemon and his battle with ash was secretly a draw.

[@SeaOfPixels]

"A team chalk full of legendary pokemon" does not mean it's made entirely of legendaries, just a lot compared to other trainers, especially seeing as that quote is translated and overexaggerated for that occasion. Considering the draco meteor comment, I think it's safe to assume that Tobias had Latias, and then the rest of his team was entirely dragon types (Garchomp, Dragonite, etc).

[@QuokkaWaka]

It isn't safe to assume that at all, the draco meteor comment was just to say that Ash made a good play, it wasn't even referring to his own team and even if it was that doesn't necessarily mean super-effectiveness. Why would his ace be darkrai if he is a dragon trainer? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense

[@MooseKINGstudios]

I feel like Tobias could’ve had a Chi-Yu on his team, generations ahead of time.

[@advaitkhedkar3299]

We saw Tobias using just 2 Pokemon, and both mythical. So let's assume mythical Pokemon is his theme. If he returns , i think this will be his best all mythical team, with minimal type overlap and proper battle worthy Pokemon .. Darkrai, Latios, Volcanion, Zeraora, Marshadow, Magearna.

[@talhaakram5618]

Latios isn't mythical

[@foodoftherinnegan1583]

He 100% had 4 arceus in his back pocket he was ready to reset everything

[@milessaxton]

I remember saying out loud “wait isn’t latios dead or something” when I saw him pull it out

[@reinierlara5421]

I really want to see Ash vs Tobias 2 in Pokemon Master Journeys since they are focusing on bringing the old characters back 😊

[@666blaziken]

I always hoped that Tobias just had a bidoof, a magikarp, a luvdisc, and an unknown just to troll

[@agikai_]

This is literally the player character you play as in the games. Nobody but Cynthia had a chance at this point.

[@theultimategamingcorner7589]

Good video raf looking forward to the next one

[@ThePokeRaf]

Thank you

[@theultimategamingcorner7589]

@@ThePokeRaf yep

[@The95Lol]

Based on the logic used to rule out the other legendary beasts, how come you didn't rule out Latias and instead put it in his team? Great video btw!

[@ThePokeRaf]

Watch and learn

[@saritatiwari439]

I would just introduce 2 changes. Instead of Latias, give him Regigigas. He already has Latios, latias along with latios being same type is.... meh! Also, Zapdos is trash. Give him Rayquaza/Deoxys.

[@maxhaly1612]

plot twist: the rest of tobias' party was four level 100 magikarp that only knew splash

[@QuokkaWaka]

Big disagree on latias, for the same reasons you excluded the other legendary beasts and birds. Big disagree on regigigas and lugia too, simply because I think they are _way_ too strong and important to go on his team. Outside of that, I disagree with the lineup because of its horrible type coverage, 3 pokemon weak to rock, 3 weak to dark, 4 weak to ice... I get that type coverage matters way less in the anime, but I still don't think it makes much sense given his skill/power. Otherwise I agree for the most part, and it was a solid analysis. Good vid 👍

[@Brandon-oi7iq]

hoho can revive from dead so that means when pikachu saves ash when getting attacked by the sparrow they died and hoho revived?

[@LRUniversely]

There is an episode where zapdos is spotted flying above some trainer with a ditto I wonder if this could be Tobias's Zapdos

[@melaniev4390]

Which one?

[@alexanderwee2055]

Omg Latias and Lugia make so much sense

[@Shadow-jw1kt]

Quite frankly, I’m pretty firm in my belief that he has a Mew. I can’t say why, but I have a real feeling about it.

[@silviozhang3116]

Tobias was a pokemon who decided to shapeshift into human and asked his homies to help him win and flex . . . in an alternate universe

[@LuapXD]

Great video bro 👏🏼

[@ThePokeRaf]

Thank you bro

[@dellosayshello5405]

Headcanon: he had Sabrina like power and instead of capturing it befriend it or control his Pokémon through other ways

[@igorlopes8463]

We all know that Tobias is that one kid with hacked legendaries at level 100 that everyone hated

[@sibyabraham5230]

His actual team darkrai,latios,caterpie,magikarp,feebas,kakuna,

[@jacksunslight]

I have a theory What if his legendary Pokémon are just dittos transformed into legendaries he encountered?

[@aldrinmercado3475]

After the episode was aired, the director leaked who the rest of team was and they were 3. Mewtwo 4. Wargreymon 5. Perfect Cell 6. Galactos So yeah ash aint winning

[@pepethemagician8778]

having 1 legendary in the anime is rare enough let alone an entire team i know the writers made him too op but giving him something like a lugia is just too op

[@OmegaDarkMage]

Anyone that can beat a team like that with non legendaries is a true Pokemon Master with massive bragging rights.

[@jeremyfrancisco9387]

tobias is the average online pokémon player

[@UnicornFairy42]

🤞🏻 Tobias comes back in Pokémon Journeys where we’ll see his other Pokémon

[@kyrosrexlaghayon1459]

Maybe he has a marshadow it kinda fits him and its like darkrai

[@justyouraveragejoe9454]

I love the headcanon that Tobias is an Arceus in disguise who felt the need to endure Ash would continue journeying after Sinnoh. E.g after Ash won the League in Alola, he stops traveling for a while until he gets the job as research assistant. Then after the World Cup victory, he seems to just be wandering around places he's already been for the sake of it. If he won the Sinnoh Cup and settled down, he'd have gotten none of the character development he got in the other regions, and a lot of tragedies that Ash stopped would happen now. So Arceus, being a benevolent deity, decides to ensure the better timeline by humbling one Pallet Boi. In this hypothetical timeline, I'd pitch his team as Darkrai, Latios, Entei, Regigigas, Giratina, and then himself. So if Ash brought the right team and knocked out the first five, Tobias himself would step onto the field and take his true form.

[@djspit8929]

I think tobias had a victini. I say this because every gen of the anime ash obtains or sees a pokemon from the next region before going there. In kanto he sees ho-oh and misty has a togepi, in johto he battled a kid with an exploud, in hoenn max has a munchlax and ash battles agathas turtwig, gen 4 sinnoh he sees zoroak and zorua and tobias possibly has a victini..maybe the reason he never loses

[@UltraAfroman]

I'll be so happy if he returns.

[@medichampion328]

Tobias must have a Cresselia so he can't have bad dreams whenever he falls asleep.

[@vegan_dragon]

In Black and White games there in an unobtainable battle with Tobias. There he got Darkrai, Latios and Entei.

[@Zimnologycal-56]

Imagine if Tobais showed up in the masters 8

[@ajax09gaming30]

Imagine once ash sees cynthia in journeys she mentions that she battled tobias and all of his pokemon in a flashback

[@mello_______]

Legends say he tried to catch giratina... if not... a SHINY LEGENDARY

[@user-lk5kp3jx5t]

I think his team should be this: Darkrai - Dark Pulse, Dark Void, Dream Eater, Ice Beam Latios - Luster Purge, Surf, Giga Impact, Light Screen Lucario - Aura Sphere, Meteor Mash, Shadow Ball, Nasty Plot Entei - Eruption, Flare Blitz, Extreme Speed, Bulldoze Lugia - Aeroblast, Hydro Pump, Psychic, Roost Zekrom - Bolt Strike, Outrage, Zen Headbutt, Earth Power

[@jellalshadow2318]

Tobias is that one player who uses action replay in Pokémon

[@user-fy8yk9pp8v]

I have always envisioned his team as: Gengar or scizor (pokemon he used to help him catch the others with) Latios Darkrai Registeel Moltres Raikou I believe he would have been smart enough to go for type coverage

[@tochopals4931]

Amazing video That aside, I'll also consider gen 5 leggies and mythicals since we usually see post-gen pokemon in the current gen (minus in gen 7-8). So if we look at them, Victini being victory pokemon seems like a good fit with Tobias imo

[@ThePokeRaf]

Thank you

[@anthonyvermeer8259]

Well if what Tobias said is true that Ash's Gible (Dragon/Ground) with Draco Meteor (Dragon type move = STAB) could defeat any Pokémon (including the one's in his team) except Darkrai and his team are All legendarys and his Latios is Dragon/Psychic. Then The only other members he could have would be Latias Rayquaza Dialga Palkia and Girantina (and in the most extreme Arceus with a Dragon plate) according that Dragon and Ice are the only two weaknesses to the Dragon type till Gen 6