Top 10 New Testament Scriptures that show that Jesus is NOT God (#10-6)

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Bill Schlegel

Bill Schlegel

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In this two part episode we look at 10 verses from the New Testament which give direct evidence that Jesus is NOT God.
Many Christians have heard of a few verses that supposedly declare that Jesus IS God, but few Christians have heard about verses that show that Jesus is NOT God.
In this episode we examine five (OK, plus) verses:
10. 2 Cor. 1:3 (Eph.1:3, 1 Pet. 1:3, Rom. 15:6, etc.)
The Lord Jesus Christ has a God.
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Father of mercies and God of all comfort”
Ephesians 1:17
I pray that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory,
may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation as you come to know him, (Eph.1:17)
Revelation 3:12
The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God.
Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God,
and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down
from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.
9. John 20:17
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."
8. Mark 12:29-33 where Jesus quotes Deuteronomy 6:4
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God the LORD is one. And you shall
love the LORD your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength…”
(Yahweh our God, Yahweh is one). “He
is one, there is no other but he, and to love him…”
7. John 8:40
“…but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the
truth that I heard from God.”
6. Romans 5:15
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the gift in the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
Resources:
⁠Kapusta, P. The Epistle to the Hebrews: An Anthology of Quotations⁠
⁠www.amazon.com...
⁠“Before Abraham Was I Am”: Was Jesus Claiming to Be God?⁠
⁠open.spotify.c...

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@SonOfGodByNewBirthInChrist
@SonOfGodByNewBirthInChrist 10 ай бұрын
I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and *because no lie is of the truth.* 1 John 2:21 Go to any modern Christian church statement of faith and read it carefully. Usually the first statement is something to the effect of ‘we hold the Bible as the only source of truth.’ Then, within a statement or two later, they introduce the doctrine of the trinity, which comes from the creeds of men formed 300-400 years after Christ. So it’s obvious the first statement of holding the Bible as the only source of truth is a lie. Judge for yourself what the fruit of these ‘churches’ will be.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
So true! Usually the first two statements of protestant evangelical churches doctrinal statements completely contradict each other: 1. The Scriptures are our sole authority. 2. God is a triune being. !!
@elimason7954
@elimason7954 10 ай бұрын
Jesus has to be 100% man because the only way sinful man can be reconciled to a sinless God is through a sinless man.
@greglogan7706
@greglogan7706 10 ай бұрын
Well stated!!
@traviswatson3810
@traviswatson3810 10 ай бұрын
What are you? The judge of God and His works. Your a dork
@TruthWillSetYouFREE-
@TruthWillSetYouFREE- 10 ай бұрын
Oh foolish man Jesus emptied himself and became man Can man receive worship?? Jesus received worship! John1:1 Rom9:5 Titus2:13 2Pet1:1 1john5:20 5 times that tell us Jesus is the Almighty God Jesus himself said that he is The Almighty Rev1:8
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
David received worship. You have a very narrow understanding of the words in scripture that are translated as worship.
@eddieyoung2104
@eddieyoung2104 10 ай бұрын
John 1:1 doesn't say that Jesus is Almighty God, only that the word was God. You have to first of all decide that 'the word' is another name for Jesus and then work backwards fitting it into John 1:1. An alternative would be to take your understanding of 'the word' from the Old Testament and fit that into John 1:1. Then you would have God's speech and command which is part of him, and that word becoming flesh. For example, the word of God came out of Gabriel's mouth to Mary, and became flesh in her womb. Romans 9:5 only seems to say that Jesus is blessed by God, according to the KJV, so again not a definitive verse. In Titus 2:13 we can split the statement into two beings. That is, the great God, and then also, our saviour Jesus Christ. The same can be said for 2 Peter 1:1. 1 John 5:20 is also not definitive because God is still described as separate from Jesus. Just by the fact that it says ' *his* son Jesus Christ'. And if you look at the context of Revelation 1:8 it shows John speaking of both God and Jesus from the beginning of the chapter onwards. God is spoken of in verse 4, and if you compare that with verse 8 it answers the question of who it's referring to.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
I suggest claiming that Jesus is the "Almighty God" dishonor the one true God (The Father) and dishonors the man Christ Jesus, because the statement claims the human person Christ Jesus didn't humble himself, in fact, that he never existed.
@TruthWillSetYouFREE-
@TruthWillSetYouFREE- 10 ай бұрын
@@eddieyoung2104 Eddi boy Paul and and the apostles gave Jesus the place that only one gives to the Almighty The Jews sought to kill jesus because they realise by the statement Jesus made he claimed deity “Before Abraham I am” Gen14:18 the one who brought bread and wine is the one who broke the same with the apostles A tree has three portions Root stem and Branches Root is nt the stem Stem is not the branches But the three is the tree, they cannot be separated Php 2:5ff says that Jesus being God …..! Emptied himself of being God John 1:1 and 1:14 tells us that he changed from where he was … You have become deceived and confused by some man 1Tim 3:16 great is the mystery of Godliness God was manifested in the flesh If you deny Jesus coming in the flesh even though he is God, It’s the spirit of the antichrist Sadly you are deceived
@TruthWillSetYouFREE-
@TruthWillSetYouFREE- 10 ай бұрын
@@cc3775 Plz tell me where did david receive worship?? And show me any verse in the NT Of here the apostles or anyone received worship ? Don twist the scriptures just to suite your false narrative Have you been baptised in the Holy Spirit???
@grantbartley483
@grantbartley483 10 ай бұрын
No modern Christian denies Jesus was a real human being. Fully God and fully man is the usual formulation. Also, Genesis says 'Let us make man in our image'. Your cherry picking is misleading. Even your first example fails in two ways: You're looking at an English translation, not the Greek; and the 'of' refers to 'father of' rather than 'God of'. Conclusion: you're misrepresenting what the Bible says.
@robertramsey653
@robertramsey653 10 ай бұрын
​@@elimason7954well then, who else would GOD be talking to? Because nowhere does it say that the Angel's were made in GOD'S image, so who else then? This guy is cherry picking. How many times did JESUS say "I and the FATHER are one"? And who else could perform the healings and the casting out of demons at will but GOD? The BIBLE clearly teaches a triune GOD, and anyone that denies that really needs to take a harder look. GOD said on 2 occasions that JESUS was HIS SON, that I remember. I'd say that makes JESUS, GOD. C'mon man, dont be hard hearted, and definitely dont rely on others for what you believe. Search the scriptures and ask GOD to reveal the truth to you.
@johnwhitworth8023
@johnwhitworth8023 10 ай бұрын
@@elimason7954 thoughts on Isaiah 48:16 or Isaiah 44:6 and Jesus using the same "first and last" title in Rev 1:17 and Rev 2:8?
@JeremyBurnett
@JeremyBurnett 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@elimason7954 try reading with understanding of the events. If you look for it to be laid out for you, you will never find it. God speaks to those who have an ear to hear. He has no need to prove these things to you. It’s one God who interacts with us through the creation (father) humanity and understanding realized through His physical presence (Jesus the Son) and through a motivating Holy Spirit. All of these are of the one God in nature and truth.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Hi, Gen. 1:26 is a typical or standard verse that some Trinitarian, mostly lay-persons, think shows that God is Triune. There are many problems with such an interpretation, and that's why most Trinitarian scholars these days don't believe the verse is evidence for a more-than-one-person-god. Here's a quote from the evangelical Word Biblical Commentary: “Christians have traditionally seen this verse as adumbrating the Trinity. It is now universally admitted that this was not what the plural meant to the original author.” (Word Biblical Commentary. Wenham, G. J. (1987). Genesis 1-15 You might want to investigate why a scholar like Wenham says that it is "universally admitted" that there is no plurality of persons in Gen. 1:26. Here are a few points: landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/09/is-genesis-126-evidence-that-god-is.html Then, as to "No modern Christian denies Jesus was a real human being." As a former Trinitarian, I would have said and thought the same thing. But I was wrong. To be a human being someone is a human person. You might want to investigate why Trinitarian Christianity has to maintain that Jesus of Nazareth was/is not a human person. landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/08/jesus-christ-is-not-human-person.html
@grantbartley483
@grantbartley483 10 ай бұрын
@billschlegel1 thanks. I think the one person two natures thing is not saying that the Word of God had a human personhood prior to the incarnation. Rather, the idea is that he had a divine personhood that was expressed in a fully human way when he was incarnated.
@loveofthetruth9398
@loveofthetruth9398 10 ай бұрын
Excellent points Bill. Sadly, the trinitarians typically ignore these texts, and jump to the handful of verses that are worded in such a way that they MIGHT be interpreted to INFER that Jesus is God. It is common knowledge, even among honest trinitarians, that there are ZERO texts that actually STATE, EXPLAINE or DESCRIBE the trinity.
@vibeauxssxuaebiv3489
@vibeauxssxuaebiv3489 10 ай бұрын
You are foolish and ignorant. Turn to the One True God before it's too late. God has revealed Himself as truine and your confusion will not protect you from God's reality.
@andrewk128
@andrewk128 10 ай бұрын
We know that God is a life giving spirit, but when we read: 1Co 15:45 So also it is written, The first man Adam became a living soul. The last Adam BECAME a life-giving spirit. Wow! Jesus became a life giving spirit! This proves that Jesus can not be God beacous if Jesus is God he can not become a life giving spirit, becous God will forever be a life giving spirit it´s not something he one day became.
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 10 ай бұрын
Trinity idol has blinded their eyes, they try to protect their idol by any means possible. That's the spirit of antichrist in them. They have Holy Spirit but it's mixed with this antichrist spirit that's why Christianity is crawling and dragging and is going nowhere because it's held by this illusionary three headed god. But the true message must be spread and we must not be afraid to stand against this false christ.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
@@Mckaule amen. It took me a couple of years to get most of the trinity nonsense out of me and now six years after finding this pollution blinding my understanding there are still a couple of dark corners Im working on, LOL.
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 10 ай бұрын
​@@ken440I'm trying to figure it out for 12 years already. At first I thought I'm nuts and Satan is tricking me because I see not as majority sees and speaks. Thanks God who gave me a wife who also sees and all those who speak through KZbin. There're much more deceptions to go through. We must know where, what we now know, must lead us to. Just to know that God is not a trinity or that Jesus is not God doesn't give us any credits if we will not come to the fullness of the knowledge of Truth.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
@@Mckaule Yes I agree that this trinity issue is only part of the story. I have been 6 years studying and comparing all different views, and looking at what original language says when the texts seems strange or weird. So many issues. Trinity is one of about five things i have found, and although it is most reacted to, and controversial, i think an even bigger one is the "mystery hid in God". That is where my main interest lies, and it is not apparent fully untill another (the fifth issue God showed me) is understood. That is the divine council. The other elohim. The "bene elohim" which is "sons of God" in Genesis. The spirit beings of Gods first created family. And it is a struggle to understand this unless we are prepared to look at all of scripture through the eyes of an ancient hebrew, the world view of the people in the days of Abraham to Jesus. The understanding of who the "gods of the nations" were, what went on in Gen6:1-4, and why Goliath wasnt the only big guy. What is the Rephaim, and why were the Amelekites so bad. I spent a year or two studying the work of Mike Heiser (although he was a trinitarian up till his death) he exposes the spiritual bad news of the backstory. You dont see much of the real bad news in our bible scriptures because it is the gospel, the good news of redemption plan of our God. But the people of the day knew the bad news (you get more of it on Job) about the rebellion that led to Adams temptation and the type of evil corruption from Gen6 to the flood. How it is remembered in all the legends of many nations. How there really is a spiritual war going on, that we are caught up in.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
@@Mckaule Heres five big issues as i discovered them by God opening my understanding and leading me to sources. First i had been trinitarian pentecostal for 38 years but the last 8 years of this, prior to this trinity falsehood discovery, i had become disillusioned by churchy pretending and so my wife and i had taken a holiday from church life and took up ballroom dancing. Six years ago from present I began to sense God drawing me back, so i went to a creation meeting in my old church. (I was involved with CMI, creation ministries) There after meeting, over a coffee, i came across some church friends from a variety of different backgrounds arguing about speaking in tongues. A presbyterian, two baptists and a open brethren, and me the pentecostal LOL. I was quite experienced in this tongues issue so agreed to write an essay explaining it. Some research in scripture to get wording accurate. That led me to big discovery number 1. That in 1Cor12:1 the word "gifts" had been added by translators. (they trying to clarify what they thought Paul meant about the 9 so called "gifts" listed there). You can see this in a kjv study bible, its in italics, and in a greek interlinear its in (brackets) both meaning the word is added, not in the original autograph. I had never noticed before!!!!! If you take that word out and read it in conjunction with ch11 where you read "when you come together" leading to ch12 "i would not have you ignorent about spiritual" ( leave out "gifts") and read on, about the MANIFESTATIONS of holy spirit that is in every believer. The only true "gifts" word is "gifts of healing" and that is because the healed person receives something. None of this is about people having ministry gifts, no gifts of tongues or prophecy or knowledge etc... these are all manifestations to be expected, welcomed, in any meeting together.. to BUILD UP THE BODY. (edit note. The actual ministry gifts are the five mentioned later... apostles evangelists, prophets, pastors, teachers. these are mentioned in other epistles and are the "gave gifts to men" in Ephesians when Jesus became the head of the body) Total change of understanding. (never been taught this, i been talk in tongues and prophecy for over 30 yrs, thought i knew it all !! blew me away) not enough space here to explain fully. View it as a swiss army knife. The thing is an analogy for holy spirit and it is the gift. It manifests a blade, a corkscrew, scizzors, screwdriver, saw, etc even tooth pick. If someone gifts you a swiss army knife (holy spirit) then it has all those manifestations when you NEED THEM. Each blade or scizzor thing is not a separate gift, it is part of the main gift, the swiss army knife (holy spirit). That led me to seeking what else had been added or changed by well meaning translators. It started a huge search in scripture and on line. I listen to lectures, sermons, ranters, whack jobs, soft preachers, all types of christians. I read books and always checking it in scripture then looking what the greek or hebrew meaning is, and trying to see it from a ancient hebrew worldview, the people who the hebrew scriptures were written to. I found next jn8:58, The I AM thing, found out the truth.... etc. 1. Gifts misunderstanding. 2. Trinity foolishness 3. Heaven is not a nice home you go to when die. ( the seventh day guys have this bit correct, but only this bit.) 4. The secret (mystery) hid in God (this is the big one and the outcome is stunning.) And thats where i got to for two years, but then on praying for total open eyes came the next. 5. Unseen realm (look up "supernatural" Dr Mike Heiser. on youtube) and this leads to understanding the biblical backstory, why there is war in heaven, why our true enemies are powers and principalities IN HEAVEN And who we as body believers NEITHER JEW NOR GENTILE have been called to be, in christ, reigning with him. Each of those issues have a bunch of side issues, and all affect each other so i understand why some just cant see a truth, because they dont understand another issue which affects the first. For example being a son of God, in christs anointing above angels, doesnt mean much if you dont grasp that some of the spiritual sons of God way back rebelled against YHWH, and that rebellion is "the work of the devil" that Jesus is putting right. And that they, hiding in plain view but denying their existance, are the source of strife, war, misinformation to mankind, and why Paul says "we dont fight each other, but our true enemy are powers and authorities, principalities in heavenly places." And this is why it says in Rev (yet to come) "there was war in heaven... and a bunch were thrown down." Because there us a spiritual battle going on way beyond a few church haters in government. Many of the unitarian groups wont agree to some of those issues, especially 1, 4 and 5. There is almost as much denominational disparity among unitarians as there are in trinitarian groups !!! I struggle with this when its people who have discovered the trinity lie, because finding that fired me to all the other issues. Most unitarian groups stay put on just the trinity issue. Do a you tube search on "Doctrine and Practice. Bob Wassung." And "Administrations in scripture. TLTF." Also "The giver the gift and the manifestations" John Schoenheit. Sorry its a bit long and i have not even scratched the surface. Blessings, time runs short and so much potential for fruit.
@practice-righteousness
@practice-righteousness 10 ай бұрын
Do you understand, why some claim the LIE: "Jesus is God/The Creator"? Because you should know, that the other LIE. "faith alone saves, not the works", is the assumption, which is made because of the first LIE mentioned! Do you agree? Read Matthew 25.31-46, about "Judgment day", where Jesus clearly tells us, that it's the works, righteous or not, which determines, whether you are worthy of an eternal Life in the kingdom of Heaven or not!
@Hayahwassa-t9j
@Hayahwassa-t9j 10 ай бұрын
Jesus is both God and man. ways worship Jesus as God and He hears me He's with me 24?7 cloud of smoke the Glory of God follows me and He is singing sweet love songs to me. so the truth is Jesus is God.
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
Jesus is never worshiped as God.
@Hayahwassa-t9j
@Hayahwassa-t9j 10 ай бұрын
all the angels fall on their faces singing Holy Holy Holy is the Lamb who was slain. who is your faith in? a man or God?@@cc3775
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Is there a place in the Bible that says that Jesus is both God and man?
@Hayahwassa-t9j
@Hayahwassa-t9j 10 ай бұрын
they killed Jesus because He said He and the Father are one and that He is the I am so who is your God? do you know the real Jesus?@@billschlegel1
@traviswatson3810
@traviswatson3810 10 ай бұрын
So much work to disprove it. What a sad life. If it's nonsense then they would have compassion if they say they know the only God. But....they just don't know Him. They are lost my friend.
@katanatac
@katanatac 10 ай бұрын
Jesus is God in the flesh, those that do not believe that will find out when they kneel before Him at the judgement.
@shanederry2691
@shanederry2691 10 ай бұрын
No, Jesus never said that about himself!! Jesus said he was a "man" and the Son of God!!
@katanatac
@katanatac 10 ай бұрын
@@shanederry2691 Jesus is God in the flesh, His name means "God with us". Even God The Father said He is God when He said "Thy Throne O God is Forever" Hebrews 1:8 There are many more scriptures that show Jesus is God. Please don't fall for what this video is teaching as it is a false doctrine.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Hi. God has given authority to a man to judge. You and I will stand before our judge the man Christ Jesus. Acts 17:31 It sounds to me like you refuse to kneel before the man Christ Jesus, whom God appointed.
@katanatac
@katanatac 10 ай бұрын
@@billschlegel1 I think what is throwing off the deniers of Jesus's Deity is His human body. Jesus is both God and man, even His name means "God with us". Even God The Father calls Him God in Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Not only will I be kneeling before Him, I will be crying tears of joy!
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
​​@@katanatacwho said all this? Because of the 27th New Testament books 9 authors all taught Jesus had a God including all of the early church fathers?? Where are you concluding these ideas and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??
@gvisagie5668
@gvisagie5668 10 ай бұрын
Psalm 45:6 The father blessing the his Son in His Kingdom and referring to his Son as God,. John 1: 1 speaks for it itself and is the the centre of everything. John 20:27-28 rebuking him not but blessing those that believes he is God without seeing Him.
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
How about we let the author of John do the talking “but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the anointed, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.” ‭‭John‬ ‭20‬:‭31‬ ‭
@gvisagie5668
@gvisagie5668 10 ай бұрын
@@cc3775the Jews became all the more angry because he said God was his own father thereby making him equall to God. All sin can be forgiven even blasphemy against The Son.
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
@@gvisagie5668 calling God his own Father. Not calling himself God.
@andrewk128
@andrewk128 10 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 8:6 6 but there is to us only one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we by Him. (Act 2:36) John 14:28 28 You have heard how I said to you, I go away and I am coming to you again. If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, I go to the Father, for My Father is greater than I. John 8:40 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I heard from God: this did not Abraham. John 4:21 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, shall ye worship the Father. 22 Ye worship that which ye know not: we worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth: for such doth the Father seek to be his worshippers. The Bible is clear And about Joh 20:28 John 20:28 28 Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Beacous it was the Father that worked through his son, then we se two persons when we see Jesus, we see ofcourse Jesus but we also se the Father. So I as a Biblical Unitarian haw no problem with Joh 20:28 John 14:10 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I say unto you I speak not from myself: but the Father abiding in me doeth his works. John 12:44 44 And Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.45 And he that beholdeth me beholdeth him that sent me. John 12:49 49 For I spake not from myself; but the Father that sent me, he hath given me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. Jesus is teling us many times that only the Father is God, he newer talked about God being a trinity.
@kimmagnuson6834
@kimmagnuson6834 10 ай бұрын
All of the scriptures you pointed to do not say that Jesus is God, but rather that he represents God as agent and Son. That is why Jesus always refers to himself as Son of God or son of man but never God the son. Remember that Jesus received Holy SPirit from the Father just as all Christians who are true believers receive Holy Spirit. This does not mean that we are God, but should mean we are "godly" as was Jesus. Jesus us our mediator or person between us and Father God. This is clear if you read 1 Timothy 2 v 5.@@andrewk128
@adriankoola
@adriankoola 10 ай бұрын
Only by being both deity and humanity could Jesus Christ bridge the gap between where God is. And Philippians 2:5-6 “You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to." And John 1:18 “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.“
@elimason7954
@elimason7954 10 ай бұрын
People saw Jesus and Jesus is God yet no-one has ever seen God. That makes no sense.
@robertramsey653
@robertramsey653 10 ай бұрын
​@@elimason7954that's a terrible argument my friend. How about when Philip said to JESUS "show us the FATHER and it will be enough" and JESUS said "have I not been with you so long, and you dont know me?" Maybe not word for word, but very close. JESUS was/is fully GOD and fully man. That was the only way HE could legitimately pay our sin debt. Plus, it is not possible for a fallen human to not sin, and JESUS went HIS whole life without a single sin. Either that or our sins are not payed for, and we are all damned to hell. Have fun with that.
@adriankoola
@adriankoola 10 ай бұрын
Preach it brother, Amen@@robertramsey653
@elimason7954
@elimason7954 10 ай бұрын
@@robertramsey653 God is immortal he cannot die. Jesus can't be God, he died.
@user-zz2bp6bi6x
@user-zz2bp6bi6x 10 ай бұрын
Pure blasphemy! Before Abraham was I am. In Christ dwells the fullness of God BODILY! JESUS said l am the way the truth and the way! Peter said thou you are the Christ the son of the living God!
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
Plenty of good comment dialogue generated with this episode Bill. Good one. Ive been so busy i havent even finished listening to it yet. lol. It staggers me that so many quote the same verses in response, showing they have not seen their issue addressed strongly in one of the other videos. Its as if they see only this video and quote their favourite trinity proof without reading even the other comments. Its rather sad such fervent trust in religious tradition without doing any research themselves.
@wordforever117
@wordforever117 10 ай бұрын
What about John 1:1 and John 20:28? Do you need to ignore those in order to stick to your theory?
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
What about John 1:1? How about you let this author of John tells what the purpose of his writing is “but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the anointed, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.” ‭‭John‬ ‭20‬:‭31‬ ‭
@wordforever117
@wordforever117 10 ай бұрын
@@cc3775Yeh exactly, so you need to ignore John 1:1 and John 20:28 to stick to the theory!
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
@@wordforever117 Jesus is the anointed, the son of God, not God.
@wordforever117
@wordforever117 10 ай бұрын
@@cc3775Where does John say that the Son of God is "not God"?
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
@@wordforever117 son of God is a title for someone who has a close personal relationship with God. Jesus himself says the Father is the only true God. The author of John isn’t trying to tell people that Jesus is God.
@joechain7548
@joechain7548 10 ай бұрын
And God said, Let "us" make man in "our" image, after "our" likeness: - Genesis 1:26 us is plural, and so is our so who is us, and our? The Father is all love, The son is all sacrifice, the holy spirit is all wisdom. You need the wisdom of the holy spirit to reach the son if you want to reach the father.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Hi, Gen. 1:26 is a typical or standard verse that some Trinitarian, mostly lay-persons, think shows that God is Triune. There are many problems with such an interpretation, and that's why most Trinitarian scholars these days don't believe the verse is evidence for a more than one person god. Here's a quote from the evangelical Word Biblical Commentary: “Christians have traditionally seen this verse as adumbrating the Trinity. It is now universally admitted that this was not what the plural meant to the original author.” (Word Biblical Commentary. Wenham, G. J. (1987). Genesis 1-15 You might want to investigate why a scholar like Wenham says that it is "universally admitted" that there is no plurality of persons in Gen. 1:26. Here are a few points: landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/09/is-genesis-126-evidence-that-god-is.html
@kimmagnuson6834
@kimmagnuson6834 10 ай бұрын
Be careful in citing Genesis 1 v 26. I will agree with you that the term "us" is plural, but that can not only insinuate that God is talking to Jesus, but it can also and most likely insinuate that God is speaking to the heavenly hosts. The reason being that in the very next verse, verse 27, the plural us is reduced to singular. Verse 26 states "Let us make man in our image," which certainly can be interpreted in a plurality, but please keep it in context and continue reading verse 27 which states:" in the image and likeness of God, created HE man." He is singular. I believe there are only about 4-5 places in all of scripture where a situation such as your "us" comment and plurality is used when talking about God,, but there are well over 1000 instances where the singular pronouns I, he, him, his, me are used when God is speaking. You won't find "We are the Lord your God," but you will find "I am the Lord your God," and "You shall have no other Gods before ME." Start counting the singular pronouns and go with the odds.
@wilmavanstaden1026
@wilmavanstaden1026 10 ай бұрын
Once again thank you for clear insight. Love listening to your teachings.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Christian friends, typically most Christians respond to questioning the deity of Jesus with "what about John 1:1 or Thomas' declaration in John 20:28". Let me first say I love the Gospel of John. You are welcome to peruse one of the many podcasts (usually accompanied with a link to written next in the description). Blessings in Messiah Jesus. kzbin.info/aero/PLUqWXumvcp5pYiqL0lee02c5mpVUlCF6l
@traviswatson3810
@traviswatson3810 10 ай бұрын
Your a heretic bro. Straight up
@traviswatson3810
@traviswatson3810 10 ай бұрын
Herectic. Your a nobody when you get to hell. I swear it .
@calebrandall3802
@calebrandall3802 8 ай бұрын
Do slideshows brother it will help! May God our father bless you!
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod 10 ай бұрын
The people who have been preaching "Jesus is God" instead of "Jesus is the Christ the Son of God" are going to have alot of explaining to do on judgement day.
@Claudia.888
@Claudia.888 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. 2.John 1,9
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod 8 ай бұрын
excellent example God bless@@Claudia.888
@Hayahwassa-t9j
@Hayahwassa-t9j 10 ай бұрын
so do you also say the Holy Spirit is not God? and how are we made in His image? Male and female. with three parts body, soul, spirit. are you filled with the Holy Spirit yet? you can tell if you speak in tongues that will help you understand God better.
@eddieyoung2104
@eddieyoung2104 10 ай бұрын
One doesn't have to have the ability to speak in tongues, to have the Holy Spirit. Speaking in tongues was only one of many gifts, and Paul did say it would pass away. Yet, these three remain, faith, hope, and love. If we have these we can also say we have the Holy Spirit in us. Because the fleshly man doesn't naturally have these things, in the way a believer does. In addition the Bible as the word of God, is a book full of Holy Spirit words, which enter and lodge in our mind, and have power to change and affect our life.
@Hayahwassa-t9j
@Hayahwassa-t9j 10 ай бұрын
@@eddieyoung2104 actually everybody can speak in tongues like they did in Acts, they knew the gentiles were saved when they spoke in tongues. how would you have the other gifts in 1 cor 12 if you arent filled with the Spirit? do you know anybody who does those miracles? i do but most dont. i have a letter from Jesus about it so im sure if you read it a few time you can ask and receive Hello my friends i want to share this with you about being filled with the Spirit and power. If you want oil in your lamp you have to be filled with the Spirit and the way you can tell that is if you have miracles happen specifically you will speak in a new language of heaven and sing with it. Be wise and get oil for your lamp. This is the first two witness message i got. This is the fire coming from their mouths Holy Ghost tongues of fire. The golden oil and new wine sings out or their mouths. Make sure you have this. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; - Mar 16:17 KJV And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. - Act 2:3 KJV And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. - Act 2:4 KJV For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, - They heard and said these people are drunk But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all [ye] that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: - Act 2:14 KJV For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is [but] the third hour of the day. - Act 2:15 KJV And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: - Act 2:17 KJV Peter knew salvation was extended to the gentiles when he heard them speak in tongues How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. - Act 10:38 KJV Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; - Act 10:40 KJV While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. - Act 10:44 KJV And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. - Act 10:45 KJV For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, - Act 10:46 KJV Paul Act 10:46 KJV I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: - 1Co 14:18 KJV according to the bible everyone who believes can pray in tongues. Its for a private talk with God. the confusing thing is there are two kinds of speaking in tongues. one for prayer like Paul said he thanked God he spoke in tongues more than all of them. everyone can have this and after it gifts from 1 cor 12 Ask for it. He wont give you a snake. He gives good gifts And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. - Luk 11:9 KJV For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. - Luk 11:10 KJV Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? - Luk 11:12 KJV If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall [your] heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? - Luk 11:13 KJV when i first found Jesus someone gave me a new testament and said this church is based on the book of acts. read it. so i did. read the pages right off that bible. i asked when are you guys going to speak in tongues?do you do that on Friday nights when there are no unbelievers there? they were surprised and told me that was only for the early church. And i found out it is for all believers When you are filled with the Holy Spirit you will have gifts of the Spirit described in detail in 1 cor 12 the first gift i got scared me it was discernment of Spirits. Then the Lord added more gifts. i remember singing in tongues with people and the Glory of God dropped like Smoke on us i miss that. The baptism of fire or baptism of the Spirit gives you power and its important to be able to see spiritual things as clearly as possible. Just ask the Lord to help your, unbelief if you have any and fill you up. I started singing in tongues as soon as i asked for it. My mouth was sore for a few days from making new sounds. Now the Glory of God fills my house, follows me and its beautiful. You can have that if you worship in Spirit and truth What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. - 1Co 14:15 KJV It is real and Biblical and necessary please ask if you have any questions. Ask and it shall be given to you. Seek and you shall find. knock and the door shall be opened to you. Luke 11;13 says Abba will not give you a snake or a scorpion when you ask for the Holy Spirit Make sure your doctrineTherefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, - Heb 6:1 KJV Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. - Heb 6:2 KJV And this will we do, if God permit. - Heb 6:3 KJV The LORD of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, [and] make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, [and] as the corners of the altar. - Zec 9:15 KJV For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. - Isa 28:11 KJV To whom he said, This [is] the rest [wherewith] ye may cause the weary to rest; and this [is] the refreshing: yet they would not hear. - Isa 28:12 KJV In the last day, that great [day] of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. - Jhn 7:37 KJV He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. - Jhn 7:38 KJV (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet [given]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) - Jhn 7:39 KJV 14 That I will give [you] the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil. - Deu 11:14 KJV 23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first [month]. - Joe 2:23 KJV 1 Ask ye of the LORD rain in the time of the latter rain; [so] the LORD shall make bright clouds, and give them showers of rain, to every one grass in the field. - Zec 10:1 KJV 7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. - Jas 5:7 KJV And more 1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual [gifts], but rather that ye may prophesy. 2 For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. ... 4 He that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater [is] he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. ... 13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue pray that he may interpret. 14 For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. 16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? ... 18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: ... 21 In the law it is written, With [men of] other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. - 1Co 14:1-2, 4-5, 13-16, 18, 21 KJV When you pray and sing in tongues nobody understands even you. So you basically are singing from the Spirit of God. praying according to His will. You are helping yourself and everyone and if you can interpret it you can edify the church You pray in tongues and the Spirit of God is praying out of you. And you should also pray with your mind working in your own language. But if you don’t have the Holy Spirit do you have oil in your lamps? Doesnt the word say half are wise and have oil? Make sure you have oil But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life. Jude 1:20-21 Jesus is filled with the Holy Spirit He speaks diversity of tongues and sings in tongues. The Holy Spirit came upon Him like a dove we follow Him we follow His example so make sure you have it get some oil in your lamps.
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 10 ай бұрын
God is Holy Spirit, and there's no such thing as "God the Holy Spirit". It's what God is. Man is flesh by nature, God is Spirit by nature, and His Spirit is Holy. It would be strange and weird if I'd said to my wife,- "can your flesh bring a glass of water to me ?" I think it's the same with GOD if we are praying to Holy Spirit then we are ignorant that we pray to nature of God. I haven't found even one place in the Bible a where people pray to Holy Spirit. I speak in tongues, I cast out demons and I don't worship Trinity which is an invention of human reasoning. GOD is One and we call Him our Father. Jesus had the same God as we, and this God anointed a human person Jesus of Nazareth to do His will even to the death on the cross. GOD raised this human Jesus from the dead and gave him all authority in Heaven and on earth.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
@@Mckaule Absolutely. Right with you on all counts, its just a shame others entrench thenselves against truth because of their theology having to remain locked.
@andrewk128
@andrewk128 10 ай бұрын
We know that the Bible teaches that it was the Father working through Jesus and we of cours know that it was the Holy Spirit, God is Spirit. God the Father is a Holy Spirit. So when it talks about the Holy Spirit it is the Spirit of the Father. But Jesus when He was resurected he was born by the spirit, he became a lif giving spirit (1Kor 15:45), and he is now a Holy Spirit.
@garrett621
@garrett621 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video.
@PetarStamenkovic
@PetarStamenkovic 9 ай бұрын
This is just silly. Your arguments are like Protestant arguments. You start with the premise you wish to show is true, so you pick an arbitrary line that you personally find troubling and then you read your conclusion into the line. That is how circular reasoning works. You use your own premise to demonstrate your own conclusion, while ignoring both the history and the text you're analyzing. For you specifically, you put no weight to the fact that the scriptures call Jesus Lord repeatedly. Instead you on focus on the well-established fact that Jesus is the Son to the God the Father. God the Father would be God the Father to the Son of God. I’m not sure why did you think it would come as a shock to learn that Jesus was not God the Father. Instead Jesus is “merely” the Son of God, like the scriptures claim over and over again. Jesus is not a new. We had him for over two thousand years. Many scholars and philosophers analyzed him to death and back. Most of the obvious heresies, such as your own here, has been condemned by the united Church built by the apostles. Arian heresy of which your own argument is a variant, was one among the first ones to crop up. It was so early, it was before the scriptures as we know today were formed. This was back in the third century, before even the first ecumenical council. I hope this brings some clarity. Thank you for reading and have a nice day.
@adriankoola
@adriankoola 10 ай бұрын
Psalm 2- Read and re read. There are 3 talking. It's a glimpse into the heavenly realm. Jesus is God the Son indeed..
@eddieyoung2104
@eddieyoung2104 10 ай бұрын
I can see the Psalmist speaking, about what the LORD has said to him and will say to the nations. If the Psalmist was David, then he as God's anointed king of Israel was also called the son of God, as was Solomon (Psalm 89:20-27 and 1 Chronicles 28:5-6). Obviously prophetic also of Jesus, but that doesn't mean that he existed when the Psalm was written.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
There is no "God the Son" in Pslam 2 or anywhere else in the Bible. God is not a son. There is no Son God. The New Testament declares that Jesus is the Son of God.
@JakePenick
@JakePenick 10 ай бұрын
One common mistake that many of you Bible butchers make is that you tend to bind an omnipotent God that is outside of space, time, and matter to what He created within space, time, and matter. Jesus can be God and still have a God. That only proves that you have no understanding of the spiritual reality outside of time and matter. May God (in all three Persons) have mercy on your soul.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Hi, the "mystery" of a triune god or of a god incarnate is not a biblical mystery. Such things are man-made mysteries. landandbible.blogspot.com/2023/02/the-mystery-of-trinity-solved.html
@HolySpiritLedmama88
@HolySpiritLedmama88 6 ай бұрын
The bible says God cant be tempted with sin so Jesus is not God he was indeed tempted but he knew no sin meaning he obeyed the Fathers Spirit dwelling in him and overcame the flesh..why did Jesus get Holy Spirit in him when he was a flesh being like us? Well bc he's actually born directly of God's Spirit (begotten) so he doesn't need to be reborn..he is literally Gods son not just figurative..people say he's the son of God in a figurative sense but that's false bc how could he be a flesh being and have no literal Father? He has a literal Father though .God is His literal Father .He said he came not to do 'His own' will but the Fathers..he prayed to God obeyed Him etc he's not God he's His Son sent to redeem us if we believe he is the son of God we get access to the Fathers Spirit (Holy Spirit) as well .that's why the bible says He gave his spirit without measure to Jesus to give to all those who believed he is the son of God and to do miracles etc so people would believe..
@JakePenick
@JakePenick 6 ай бұрын
@@HolySpiritLedmama88 you just ignore the beginning of the Gospel of John where is says that “the Word was God.” Or the part where Jesus says “before Abraham was born, I am.” Or the part where he lets the Apostles worship him?
@HolySpiritLedmama88
@HolySpiritLedmama88 6 ай бұрын
@@JakePenick read that verse before Abraham I am in the tyndale bible which came before kjv and
@HolySpiritLedmama88
@HolySpiritLedmama88 6 ай бұрын
@@JakePenick you will see it says it completely different it says yer Abraham is I am or something and I think what he is saying there is your God is abraham bc they kept going on about Abraham like idolizing him so I do believe kjv changed that verse
@noahbody2514
@noahbody2514 5 ай бұрын
From the mouth of our Messiah "the Father alone"
@jonnyrocket8138
@jonnyrocket8138 10 ай бұрын
Have you ever read the passage in the Gospels of Jesus’ baptism? Where John the Baptist baptized Him and when He comes out of the water God the Father speaks from heaven and the Holy Spirit descends on Jesus in the form of a dove? Pretty clear example of the Trinity if you ask me. Or in Jesus’ own words “ if you have seen me you have seen the Father” and then later talks about returning to heaven in order that the Holy Spirit may be given to all believers… not sure where you are getting your false beliefs about Jesus from, but it sure isn’t from the Bible or from God. Satan loves to use Bible passages to twist them and spread lies and deceit and unfortunately it seems that he’s found a useful tool in this KZbin channel.
@eddieyoung2104
@eddieyoung2104 10 ай бұрын
Going by Bill's videos I've listened to, he always appeals to the Bible in his attempt to show the falsehood of the Trinity doctrine. So, his belief is fully upon what the Bible is showing him. For example the title of this video is '10 New Testament Scriptures...', so he's not talking about a different source than what anyone else is using. Obviously his views go against mainstream Christianity, but that doesn't necessarily prove they are unscriptural. If we're like the Bereans in Acts, then we should search the scriptures, to see whether what someone says has a Bible basis. If it does, then even if we're not convinced, at least we can understand where it's coming from. It's all to easy to jump to the conclusion that someone is a heretic or a tool of the devil. But, that's often because we don't like what's being said, and when someone shows evidence against the accepted view, it can cause discomfort in our minds. None of us wants the apple cart overturned, but for the truth to come out, it's an inevitable process.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
The Father in heaven, the human person Jesus the Son of God, and the spirit in the form of a dove, are not "one being" as Trinitarianism claims. They could be considered a "triad", but not a Trinity.
@shanederry2691
@shanederry2691 10 ай бұрын
That isn't the trinity. It doesn't show a three person being. Show us anywhere is the Bible where a person spoke about or taught about a three person being. Paul said there is One God, the Father......not One God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Jesus called his Father "the only true God". Show us a verse where Jesus calls himself, the Father , and the Holy Spirit as the only true God. You can't!!
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
@jonnyrocket All 27th New Testament books? 9 DIFFERENT Authors ALL taught Jesus "has a God", including all of the early church fathers? So where are you concluding these ideas from and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??​​​ Do your own research🙄
@adriankoola
@adriankoola 10 ай бұрын
Explain Luke 5:20-22 and Matthew 4:7
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Take a look at Matthew 9:6-8
@adriankoola
@adriankoola 10 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ the God-Man, Forgives the man, heals the man. So you see, it's God forgiving and healing, but in the form of Christ Jesus. The leaders of the day saw this as blasphemous because only God could forgive sins. If you doin't believe that Christ Jesus is God, you need to study some more brother.Just curious, are you a Jehovah's Witness ?@@billschlegel1
@kimmagnuson6834
@kimmagnuson6834 10 ай бұрын
On the forgiveness issue, carefully look at the prayer Jesus taught his disciples when they asked him "Teach us to pray." Within that prayer, you will find that we are to request forgiveness for our sins. "and forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." As you can see, God gives us power to forgive others with assurity that our own sins are forgiven AS we forgive others..
@kimmagnuson6834
@kimmagnuson6834 10 ай бұрын
As far as Mathew 4 v 7, you might put that in the context that God cannot be tempted, yet Jesus certainly was tempted. James 1 v 13.
@adriankoola
@adriankoola 10 ай бұрын
Regarding Matthew 4:7, It's clear by the context that Jesus is being tempted by Satan. Jesus then announces to Satan, that 'you shall not put the Lord your God to the test. Therefore ascribing the title of "God" to himself. Pretty clear. Actually, Jesus is quoting from the Old testament Deut 6:16. So Jesus is God. Blessings@@kimmagnuson6834
@robertramsey653
@robertramsey653 10 ай бұрын
If JESUS isnt/wasnt fully GOD and fully man, HE could not have paid for our sins, and went to the cross for nothing, and our sins are still on us and all of us Christians are going to hell. I suppose all of the disciples are in hell to, even though GOD told them to listen to JESUS. JESUS said HE was the only way to the FATHER, so if HE isnt GOD, then the BIBLE starts getting really confusing.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
How where the Israelites saved by the blood of a sheep at the first Passover? Was the sheep actually God (God in sheeps clothing... sorry couldnt help the joke). What was special about the day that Jesus was crucified??? It was a passover!! What is the name description of what Jesus is in Rev?? The LAMB OF GOD. Who saved at Passover in Egypt, the lamb or the one who provided the lamb?? It was the father of household who saved his family by providing the lamb of blood covering. Even then it was conditional on the individuals of families actually sheltering under the blood (thats faith right there!) So God saves by being the author of redemption and provider of the lamb. The lamb Jesus saves by BEING the provision. The blood saves by being a covering for us to call on, come under. We save ourselves, by responding, believing and coming under the blood..... by faith. Do you see how simple it is and why Jesus does NOT have to be God. Its got nothing to do with intrinsic value of Jesus.
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
All 27th New Testament books? 9 DIFFERENT Authors ALL taught Jesus "has a God", including all of the early church fathers? So where are you concluding these ideas from and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??​​​ Do your own research🙄
@robertramsey653
@robertramsey653 10 ай бұрын
I'll ask you both then, why does JESUS accept worship? Isnt that blasphemy? And you are still ignoring the fact that GOD told the disciples to listen to JESUS and JESUS HIMSELF said "before Abraham was, I AM". You guys can try all you like, but the BIBLE teaches that JESUS IS GOD! JESUS called HIMSELF I AM on more than one occasion too, soooo........ if I were you guys, I would ask GOD to soften my heart, and give me eyes to see. If you do not acknowledge CHRIST for who HE is, you are worshipping a false god and will not enter into Heaven. Dont be foolish!
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
@@robertramsey653 you have a very tight and denominational view of worship. This issue and the I AM issue has been covered in these videos it must mean you have done no research on it. I have addressed the I AM issue in about three comments in other threads in this very video in the last 24 hrs. Why should i say it all over again? I will address it this way, what did Jesus say using the exact two words to the woman at the well in an earlier chapter? Can you tell me what he meant? was he echoing the words from Exodus to the woman at the well?
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
@@robertramsey653 we are asking God to soften your heart and give you eyes to see Robert. Blessings from New Zealand. by the way my great grandfather was a Ramsey, out of NE Scotland.
@juliorivera870
@juliorivera870 10 ай бұрын
Jesus is YAHWEH,,, let US make man
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
No YHWH is YHWH and Jesus is his anointed King
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Hi, Gen. 1:26 is a typical or standard verse that some Trinitarian, mostly lay-persons, think shows that God is Triune. There are many problems with such an interpretation, and that's why most Trinitarian scholars these days don't believe the verse is evidence for a more than one person god. Here's a quote from the evangelical Word Biblical Commentary: “Christians have traditionally seen this verse as adumbrating the Trinity. It is now universally admitted that this was not what the plural meant to the original author.” (Word Biblical Commentary. Wenham, G. J. (1987). Genesis 1-15 You might want to investigate why a scholar like Wenham says that it is "universally admitted" that there is no plurality of persons in Gen. 1:26. Here are a few points: landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/09/is-genesis-126-evidence-that-god-is.html
@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq
@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq 10 ай бұрын
I suppose that it dependes on what you mean by the term 'God.' In the Greco-Roman world of the first century and beyond, a being who had been raised from the dead to heaven would have been considered a god. But this does not equate Jesus with being YHWH.
@euston2216
@euston2216 10 ай бұрын
1:41 - _"I'm not even going to look at some verses from the Old Testament, which is thoroughly, thoroughly that God is one individual person or one individual self..."_ And since this one individual person is _omnipotent,_ he would certainly be capable of "coming down from heaven" _without leaving heaven,_ and manifesting _himself_ on earth in genuine human form, as _his own_ Son.
@adriankoola
@adriankoola 10 ай бұрын
Amen brother Amen
@shanederry2691
@shanederry2691 10 ай бұрын
No, nothing like that in the Bible. If someone is the Son of God they are not God. Adam and Jesus are both Sons of God. And neither one of them are God.
@euston2216
@euston2216 10 ай бұрын
@@shanederry2691 "If someone is the Son of God they are not God."
@Ladyguite79
@Ladyguite79 10 ай бұрын
Ex UPC here to assist: 21 To the one who overcomes I will grant the right to sit with me on 👉"My Throne", just as I myself overcame and sat down with 👉 "My Father", on "His throne". If the "Gospel of John" had meant that Jesus was just literally God, "somehow"? Then why does he claim Jesus "still" has a 👉GOD in heaven? AND notice who is: "One-who-was-who-come"? Rev 1:1 the revelation 👉God gave Jesus Christ, to show John and followers what must soon take place John, To the seven churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from 👉him who is, and who was, and who is to come,👈 and from the seven spirits[a] before his throne, Rev 1:6 to him who was and is to come, the seven spirits before his throne, and to 🫴Jesus Christ the faithful witness and first born from the dead. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, {Acts 20:28 Jesus bought us for God with his blood, also see rev 5:8} 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve 👉His God and Father, to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen. 7 “Look, he {Christ} is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all people on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen. 8“👉I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” YHWH God is the Alpha/Omega who gave Jesus this message to give the John In Revelation (Rev. 21:6; 22:13, YHWH is referenced as “the beginning and the end.” (Rev. 21:6; 22:13 & 60+times elsewhere) Now back to the "Gospel of John", with the proper filter👇 John 20:17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to 👉My God and 👉your God.’ ”. John 20:31 NKJV 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, 👉the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in his name. John 1 sums that the "divine word" of God dwelt among us. The word or AKA God's previously spoken prophecies such as Isaiah 55, My Word will not go out void ect... So, YHWH's personified Word tabernacled among us. Jesus's favorite line: 80+ times Jesus SON OF MAN in NT 40+ times Son of God. OVER 20+ Says Jesus sits at the right hand of God 22 Times NT says GOD Raised him. Trinitarians will have a smorgasbord full of gods and call them "one". But UPC/Modalism has One God, 3 modes. Jesus Christ the name above all names "given for salvation", is the stumbling Rock offence given to the Jews. Christ the Messiah, has a new name see Rev 3:12 Raised Oneness but when it didn't quite make sense BUT Trinity DEF didn't either? Several years praying, fasting and just finished the Bible for about the 3rd time in the past 2 years alone, ex Bible Quizzer... Jesus bless you & I'll leave you with: 2 John 1:3 Grace, mercy, and peace, which come from God the Father and from Jesus Christ-the Son of the Father-will continue to be with us who live in truth and love.
@euston2216
@euston2216 10 ай бұрын
@@Ladyguite79 Yes, Jesus _the _*_offspring_*_ of David_ has a God. And that God is Jesus _the _*_root_*_ of David._ *"I JESUS...I am the root AND the offspring of David..."* (Re---ve---la---tion 22:16)
@StoningXStephen
@StoningXStephen 10 ай бұрын
Nah, Jesus gave glory too his father but the Word was with God and the Word was God and Jesus is the living Word. Wthout him nothing was created. You are adding your own narrative to these scriptures that do not discedit Christ's divinity.
@shanederry2691
@shanederry2691 10 ай бұрын
No, God the Father created by himself with his spoken word. Psalm 33:6 Isaiah 44:24. Hebrews 1 says God didn't speak through a Son until these LAST DAYS........So you are wrong!!!!
@StoningXStephen
@StoningXStephen 10 ай бұрын
@@shanederry2691 John 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
@shanederry2691
@shanederry2691 10 ай бұрын
@@StoningXStephen It doesn't say anything about Jesus or the Son. All things were created through God's spoken word and the gospel. The word became flesh at the baptism of Jesus when the Father put his own words "the gospel" into his mouth. Like the prophecy "I will put my words into his mouth". John 1:15 says John bore witness of Jesus which mean it could only be about his baptism. Because John as a six month old baby would not be talking about the birth of Jesus!! Please stop trolling.
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 10 ай бұрын
​@@StoningXStephenso you say Word=God. Then according to your own doctrine John 1:1 "In the beginning was GOD, and GOD was with GOD, and the GOD WAS GOD." Or maybe this ? "In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with the Father, and Jesus was the Father" ?
@StoningXStephen
@StoningXStephen 10 ай бұрын
“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”
@urielseptim9860
@urielseptim9860 10 ай бұрын
Lol this shows an epic misunderstanding of scripture. I'm very surprised because this kind of thinking is spreading like wildfire on the earth today. Are you Pentecostal or charismatic? Or what denomination do you consider yourself? There are 3 persons in the Godhead but only 1 God the Father. These 3 are 1. That's why he can say there is no other God before me because He is God the Father. But the Godhead has always been a triune being made up of the Holy Spirit, the Son of God Yeshua, and of course God the Father. These 3 have always existed together as 1 before anything else was. That's why it says in Genesis: "Let US create man in OUR image, after OUR likeness..." Man is also a tripart being composed of flesh, spirit, and soul just like how our Creator is. Let us go back even further to the very beginning: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." This "Word that was with God, and WAS God," is none other than Jesus the Christ, Yeshua, the author of creation and our salvation. So we clearly see here a differentiation between the persons of the Godhead, but also the clear gospel truth that these 3 are 1! If you still have any doubts, let's first make sure you're reading a KJV Bible because the modern mistranslations have removed this most critical verse which has allowed all kinds of anti-Christian cults to form: 1 John 5:7: 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." There you have it. 100% clear scriptural truth proving once and for all that the Godhead is indeed a triune being that has always and will always exist as such. Praise God for giving us such a clear definition of who He is so we can properly worship him in spirit and in truth. Now you have to be very careful claiming that Jesus is not God because this could very well be a salvation issue according to 1 John 2:22-24 KJV: 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. This is just scratching the surface. I would highly recommend researching the early church fathers who were instructed directly by the apostles themselves and were able to ask them all kinds of the same questions we are asking today. Thankfully they already settled these contentious matters thousands of years ago, and we can be 100% assured of our salvation through Jesus Christ. If you believed in Modalism back then which is what this philosophy is, you would be excommunicated from the Church and considered a heretic. The end times are surely upon us. God bless.
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
Explain why everybody thinks Jesus has a god?? 27th New Testament books? 9 DIFFERENT Authors ALL taught Jesus "has a God", including all of the early church fathers? So where are you concluding these ideas from and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??​​​ Do your own research🧐
@vibeauxssxuaebiv3489
@vibeauxssxuaebiv3489 10 ай бұрын
It is impossible to believe the scriptures and to deny the divinity of the Christ who is Jesus. It is throughout the scriptures, unequivocally, and to deny that Truth is to deny God Himself. The trinity is a fact, established in the scriptures, and recognized by all orthodox and much unorthodox Christianity since Christ established His church. You degrade the One True God and how He has chosen to reveal Himself and His nature in His scriptures. You deny Him, you deny truth, and you will die in your sins as long as you have not believed in the One True God who has revealed Himself as triune.
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 10 ай бұрын
Orthodox - following or conforming to the traditional or generally accepted rules or beliefs of a religion, philosophy, or practice... "narrow is the way, and only few find it" - Jesus Christ.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
The orthodoxy of the hebrew scriptures was that a "seed of the woman" (human offspring) would destroy the works of the devil. That a "great prophet like Moses from among them (hebrew human offspring) and I will put my words in his mouth," and various prophets saying an offspring of Abraham, a son of David, a shoot of Jesse, all written in the orthodoxy of OT, yet the orthodox priests and scribes of that time missed the point , failed to recognize their promised king, and killed him..... And you call on orthodox majority as the truth? No one denies the current divinity of Yeshua, but he was raised and glorified into that position. He was NOT a divine being prior to his death. Your very use of the word "christ" cries out against what you have claimed. It is the greek word "christos" which means ANOINTED! God doesnt anoint himself to anything, He anoints lesser beings INTO authority.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I see you are "progressive" in your use of pronouns. You declare that God is a Trinity - three persons - yet refer to God as "Him". If God is three persons, you should refer to them as them. Allow me to suggest that perhaps the claim that God is triune is an affront to the one true God, whom both Jesus and Paul say is the Father (John 17:3, 1 Cor. 8:6).
@Jesavae
@Jesavae 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful video. You gave such beautiful Biblical points and presented them do clearly. I hope that this will reach many people🙏🙏Peace to you
@claudiozanella256
@claudiozanella256 6 ай бұрын
Yes, Jesus is God because He has a PRIVILEGE over God : "The Father JUDGES NO MAN, but has turned over all judgment TO THE SON." "The Father has given Him AUTHORITY to exercise JUDGEMENT because He is also the Son of man.". Thus only Jesus gives the "heaven-pass", not God. Jesus is not almighty. That is, JESUS IS THE NON-ALMIGHTY GOD, the only King of heaven, the only Savior.
@franklicary3407
@franklicary3407 10 ай бұрын
1Tim 2:5
@naseeruddinsk346
@naseeruddinsk346 10 ай бұрын
*HOLLY QURAN said jesus is not god and trinity is wrong..* *QURAN 4:171* *O people of the Scripture! Do not go beyond the limits (of propriety) in the matter of your religion, nor say anything regarding Allâh except that which is perfectly true. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary was only a Messenger of Allâh, and (a fulfillment of) His word which He communicated to Mary, and a mercy from Him. Believe, therefore, in Allâh and in all His Messengers, and do not say, ‘(There are) three Refrain (from following this doctrine) it will be better for you. Verily, Allâh is the One and only worthy of worship. He is Holy. Far above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. And Allâh suffices as a Disposer of affairs.* يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِي دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلَىٰ مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ ۖ فَآمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلَاثَةٌ ۚ انتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ ۚإِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلَـٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۖ سُبْحَانَهُ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا 4:171 Kalimat كَلِمَت is from kalamaòكلم, meaning to speak or to express. It is a unit of language consisting of one or more spoken sounds that can stand as complete utterance. Kalima كلِمmeans word, expression, proposition, speech, sentence, saying, assertion, expression of opinion, decree, commandment, argument, news, sign, plan, design, glad tidings, creation of Allâh, prophecy, or His promise. The word kalimatun كلمة as used in the Holy Qur’ân has the meaning of “promise” (cf. 8:7; 10:19, 33, 82, 96; 39:71). According to Ibn Jarîr, Kalimatu-huكَلِمَتُهُ is Allâh’s announcement and promise to Mary of a son as a result of her prayers, just as Zachariah received the glad tidings and promise kalimatun min Allâh كلمة من اللَّهِ from Allâh about the birth of John (Yahyâ) (3:39). The word Rûhرُوحٌis derived from râha راح, which has a significance of respite from grief and sadness. Rûhis a breath of life, soul, spirit, inspiration, essence, joy, life-giving words of Allâh, or a Prophets Divine message (16:2; 16:102; 5:110; 58:22; 12:87; Lisân, Tâj). The word Rûh is used often in the Holy Qur’ân in the sense of Divine Revelation as it gives life to hearts that were dead in ignorance (26:193; 16:2; 97:4). In the chapter “Joseph” (12:87), we read the father of Joseph say, “Go my sons, and make a thorough search of Joseph and his brother. Do not despair of Allâh’s soothing mercy (Rûh Allâh اللَّهِروح). Verily none but the people who deny (the truth) can ever lose hope of Allâh’s soothing mercy (Rûh Allâh)”. Similarly we read in the chapter “Al-Mujâdilah” (58:22), “It is they (the true believers) in whose hearts Allâh has inscribed true faith and has strengthened them with His own Revelation (Rûh), and in the chapter “al-Nahl” (16:2) it is written, “He sends down the angels with revelation (Rûh)) by His command to such of His servants as He will” (cf.19:17). Thus, in the verse under discussion the word Rûhmeans Divine Mercy (12:87) or Divine Revelation with glad tidings (58:22) given to Mary. The verses referred to above tell us that the true believers are eligible to be strengthened by Divine Spirit or by Divine Revelation (Rûh).). The words kalimatunكلمةٌ and Rûhرُوحٌ are not attributes of Jesus, but they are used to raise the dignity of Mary as she receives a Promise and a Divine Revelation about the birth of a son who was to be a source of mercy and blessing (- Rahmah رحمة) for the people (19:21). The word Al-Rûhالروح used in verse 78:38 stands for Al-Rûh al-Quds, which cannot be applied here (see 2:87; 2:253; 4:171; 26:193; 32:9; 38:72; 42:52).
@traviswatson3810
@traviswatson3810 10 ай бұрын
This dude is waaaaaaay off. Lol
@traviswatson3810
@traviswatson3810 10 ай бұрын
Yo what about Isaiah 7:14 the title Immanuel means "God with us"... It is so hard to understand why someone would just go out of there way to cause grief by demeaning Jesus Name. Why ? Like seriously dude, your telling people that Jesus isn't the Lord and One and only True God because you can't understand the Trinity? No one can understand it. It's accepting the fact. Can you make time? Or love..your a problem Bill whoever. I swear my prayers tonight are to take you out. Whatever that means to my Lord who forgive me...I pray you are brought to terms with your crap.
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod 10 ай бұрын
People are going around teaching that "Jesus is God" instead of "the Christ, the Son of God" and because of this thousands of people are converting to IsIam because of it. if these people just preached the truth, that Jesus "is the Christ, the Son of God" instead of "is God" those people might have been saved.
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 10 ай бұрын
"...Trinity, no one can understand it.." You can't understand what doesn't exist, as you can't count or measure what is not.
@ken440
@ken440 9 ай бұрын
"God with us" means just that. God manifests through the provided messiah. Read Deut18:18 my friend, it explains Gods intention over 1500 years before it happened. And when it did happen we see Jesus reminds the people saying " i say nothing of myself but only what my God and father says through me." and right there we see that God was right there with the disciples, manifesting throug Jesus as Moses prophecied in Deut18:18. do you see the connection?
@traviswatson3810
@traviswatson3810 9 ай бұрын
@@ken440 nah your wrong. People worshiped at his feet. Sorry bud, whatever you get out of it go for it. Your free to deny!
@ken440
@ken440 9 ай бұрын
@@traviswatson3810 people worshipped King David as well. by all means go for it.
@chadmeidl1140
@chadmeidl1140 6 ай бұрын
Who was the Angel of the Lord in Judges Chapter 13? (v. 3) And the *angel of the LORD* appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son. (v. 6) Then the woman came and told her husband, saying, *A man of God came unto me, and his countenance was like the countenance of an angel of God, very terrible:* but I asked him not whence he was, *neither told he me his name:* (v. 11) And Manoah arose, and went after his wife, and came to the man, and said unto him, *Art thou the man* that spakest unto the woman? *And he said, I am.* (v. 16) And the *angel of the LORD* said unto Manoah, Though thou detain me, I will not eat of thy bread: and if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah *knew not that he was an angel of the LORD.* (v. 17-18) And Manoah said unto the angel of the LORD, *What is thy name,* that when thy sayings come to pass we may do thee honour? 18And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, *seeing it is secret?* (v. 21-22) But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. *Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the LORD.* 22And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, *because we have seen God.* The angel of the Lord was God. He has a secret name: Revelation 3:12 (Jesus Christ speaking) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him *the name of my God,* and the *name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem,* which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and *I will write upon him my new name.* Three names; the Father's name, New Jerusalem, and Jesus Christs' secret name. Rev. 19:11-16 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called *Faithful and True,* and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; *and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.* 13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: *and his name is called The Word of God.* 14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of *Almighty God.* 16And he hath on his vesture *and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.* Jesus Christ has multiple names: 1. Faithful 2. True 3. A name He knew but no man knew. 4. The Word of God 5. Almighty God 6. KING OF KINGS 7. LORD OF LORDS PHILIPPIANS 2:5-8 Let this mind be in you, which was also in *Christ Jesus:* 6Who, *being in the form of God,* thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, *and took upon him the form of a servant,* and was made in the likeness of men: 8And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. COLOSSIANS 1:15-16 *15Who is the image of the invisible God,* the firstborn of every creature: *16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:* Acts 13: For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption: *37But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.* Paul is quoting Psalms: Psalms 49:9 *That he should still live for ever, and not see corruption.* Every man who has died has seen corruption of the body, EXCEPT ONE. Jesus Christ did not have sinfull flesh like everyone since Adam. John 6:62 What and if ye shall see *the Son of man ascend up where he was before?* Jesus Christ was in heaven before He descended to Earth. John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, *but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.* Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, *unto us a son is given:* and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, *The mighty God,* The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the *day of Christ* is at hand. Paul is referring to the Day of the Lord (Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 13:6-9, Isaiah 34:8, Joel 2:1, Joel 2:31, Amos 5:18-20, Malachi 4:5) YET he uses the phrase "day of Christ" showing that the LORD God of the Old Testament is Jesus Christ. HERE are 28 proofs of Jesus Christ divinity.
@plainsman
@plainsman 10 ай бұрын
Good grief. The logical position toward an extraordinary, supernatural claim is skepticism until proof is offered, and so far none of the dozens of gods that have been claimed to exist throughout history have lifted a finger to prove themselves. In fact, most believers grasp this for themselves; they automatically disbelieve all religious claims except their own, barring actual proof that never produces itself.
@randallwittman2720
@randallwittman2720 4 ай бұрын
Truth will set you free. Actually many kings and powerful people received worship in the Bible today 1 : to honor or show reverence for as a divine being or supernatural power 2 : to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion a celebrity worshipped by her fans
@chadmeidl1140
@chadmeidl1140 6 ай бұрын
JESUS is NOT GOD? Genesis 1:26 And *God* said, Let *us* make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. God said let US, PLURAL. John 1:1-3 *1In the beginning was the Word,* and the *Word was with God,* and the *Word was God.* 2The same *was in the beginning with God.* *3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.* God the Father, God the Word (Jesus Christ). Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning *God created the heaven and the earth.* 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the *Spirit of God* moved upon the face of the waters. God the Father, God the Word, God the Holy Spirit in Genesis Chapter 1 verse 2. Genesis 19:24 Then the *LORD* rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire *from the LORD* out of heaven; Either God stuttered here or there are TWO in this passage. Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: *The LORD our God is one LORD:* If I said to people standing around me, "Hear me people, your friend Chad is one Chad," it would be a redundancy, and make no sense. John 6:46 *Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.* NO MAN has seen God the Father. Hebrews 1:1-3 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by *his Son,* whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* 3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the *express image of his person,* and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, *sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;* The Son (the Word) made the worlds (John 1:1-2, Genesis 1:1-2) God the Father is a person, as is Jesus Christ, as He is the EXPRESS IMAGE of His Father. Jesus Christ sat down on the RIGHT HAND of the Majesty (the Father) in the third heaven. How can a mere man sit with God on His throne? Daniel 7:13-14 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the *Son of man* came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the *Ancient of days,* and they brought him near before him. 14And there was *given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.* The Son of man here is the pre-incarnate Jesus Christ, and the Father is called the Ancient of Days. Daniel 3:24-25 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, *Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?* They answered and said unto the king, True, O king. 25He answered and said, *Lo, I see four men loose,* walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; *and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.* Can a man walk in fire? Who was this Son of God? Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name *Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.* Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed *the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.* The Father's blood? Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the *LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.* The Father did not suffer for the sins of men. Jesus Christ purchased the Church with His own blood. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: *God was manifest in the flesh,* justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 John 5:7-8 For there are *three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:* *and these three are one.* 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. Hebrews 1:6-10 And again, when he bringeth in the *firstbegotten into the world,* he saith, *And let all the angels of God worship him.* 7And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. *8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God,* is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; *therefore God, even thy God,* hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. *10And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:* Matthew 4:8-10 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, *All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.* 10Then saith *Jesus* unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, *Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.* The angels worship Jesus in Hebrews Chapter 1. The Father calls Jesus Christ "O God". Jesus Christ is God and has a God. THREE. EXODUS 3:14 And *God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM:* and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, *I AM* hath sent me unto you. JOHN 8:58-59 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? *58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.* *Then took they up stones to cast at him:* but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. Jesus uses the Title I AM in John Ch. 8. The Jews understood exactly what He was claiming and therefore took up stones to stone Him for blasphemy for making Himself God. John 10:30-33 *I and my Father are one.* 31Then the Jews took up stones again *to stone him.* 32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; *but for blasphemy;* and *because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.*
@michahtaylor1182
@michahtaylor1182 Ай бұрын
My Creator and Master is the Power of the Trinity. The trinity root is not understood by most minds, because most minds hate to live the truth they only want to know it. Sad, ain't it?
@armourofgod6310
@armourofgod6310 8 ай бұрын
Here is ONE of the plurality of God in the Old Testament. REMEMBER, this is GOD speaking. Isaiah 48:16 “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me.” Let us all count together And now the Lord God.....1 AND His Spirit............2 Have sent Me.........3 Let us go to Deut 6:4 Hear O Israel, YHVH our God is ONE Every time the word ONE is used to describe God they use the word ECHAD in the Hewbrew The key for both Jews and Christians to learn the correct concept of our God is the word echad. Echad is the Hebrew word for one, but more precisely it means a single entity but made up of more than one part. There is another Hebrew word from the same root - Yachid which means single. The meaning of Echad (more than one part) is a confirmation of the Hebrew word Elohim which is translated as God. Elohim is a plural word - more than one being called God And we are just getting started.
@Name00520
@Name00520 5 ай бұрын
The ultimate prove, that Jesus is god: Isaiah 44: 6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; 👉I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Revelation 1: 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; 👉I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth,👉 and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Jesus is god!
@ashokmahananda4812
@ashokmahananda4812 20 күн бұрын
he is the king of the world you are not true
@SilentProphecy
@SilentProphecy 10 ай бұрын
I feel like Scripture is pretty clear that Yeshua is of the elohim, and is the Elohim's chosen Ben Elohim, the only one to ever become flesh.
@Hayahwassa-t9j
@Hayahwassa-t9j 10 ай бұрын
[Rev 1:4-5, 8, 13-14, 18 KJV] 4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace [be] unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, ... 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. ... 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks [one] like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and [his] hairs [were] white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes [were] as a flame of fire; ... 18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. this verse is use for Jehovah witnesses. ask them who is the one who is and was and is to come the Almighty? who is the Alpha and OMega the Almighty and when did He die? Jesus is God people i hope you faith is not in vain.
@eddieyoung2104
@eddieyoung2104 10 ай бұрын
Revelation 1:1 shows us a distinction between God and his son Jesus, in that God gave the revelation unto him. In verse 4 and 5 we see another distinction made between God and Jesus. Verse 4 speaks of peace from God, him who was , is, and is to come. Then verse 5 says, ' *and* from Jesus Christ'. Jesus here is shown to be a separate person to God in verse 4. So, when we get to verse 8, we can't automatically assume it refers to Jesus, because we know that John has already been speaking of both persons separately. The language of verse 8 actually fits with it referring to God the Father, like in verse 4.
@Hayahwassa-t9j
@Hayahwassa-t9j 10 ай бұрын
@@eddieyoung2104 the two witnesses will tell you the truth that Jesus is God and heres a childrens story from Jesus about it i have a lot more. Passover story Jesus song I am I am the bread of life And for you i died I am the way, the truth and the life I am the door The narrow gate The straight way The eye of the needle go to the father through me I am the good shepherd I gave my life for my sheep I am the light of the world The resurrection and the life I am the true vine I have the new wine Before Abraham was I Am Two donkeys tied up in Jerusalem nodded off in the sunshine some men walked up and said the Lord needs you. They were excited to be useful and walked eagerly to see Him. And He was beautiful Jesus smiled and scratched their backs and they sang to Him. He got on the colt and Peter led Him down the streets of Jerusalem He followed the mother donkey and was tame even though he had never been ridden before People were shouting Hosanna Hosanna And throwing down palm branches. They cheered for Him The donkeys pranced and enjoyed the show. When they got back to the house the room was ready for Jesus to have His dinner with friends. The donkeys got carrots and ear scratches. They listened as Jesus gave them wine and bread and told them the sad news that one of them would betray Him. they all asked is it me? They didnt know their own hearts. The donkeys said i wont betray Him how could we, He made us and we are useful to Him. Then He rode the colt to the garden to pray they saw Him crying and sweating blood and cried too. Then some soldiers came looking for Jesus! Why? They said. He is innocent. We know that. Peter cut off a guys ear and blood was everywhere so Jesus healed him right there in front of the soldiers. They all fell down in front of Him. Still they came to arrest Him. the donkeys were standing in the way and were cut off. The donkey even got beaten, she hee-hawed and talked she said im going to restrain this madness around nowadays When I tell you the story about a donkey and the two preachers, I’m sure you will get the kick out of it. (oh the two preachers on youtube in a two witness story! cool!) They watched in horror as the soldiers beat and spit on Jesus and tore out His beard. They laughed at Him and whipped Him and He had not done anything but tell the truth and heal people. They looked at eachother and shook in horror. What is wrong with people they want to kill the one God sent to save them? And the soldiers took Jesus to the hill and hung Him on a cross. Nailed Him up there by his hands and feet. The donkeys watched as all His friends ran away and acted like they didnt know Him. then they saw some come to see Him on the cross. The soldiers mocked Him and said for Him to come down to prove who He was. He asked John to take care of his mother. Which is strange they said because doesnt He have brothers and sisters? More questions these are curious donkeys. Ask and you hall receive God said. So they ask. Then Jesus called out to His father God why have you forsaken me? And He died. Darkness came for three hours and they heard the sound of fabric ripping. The veil between men and God was torn. Men could again talk and walk with God. They took His body and wrapped Him in cloth. The donkeys carried Him again and the men put Him in a rich mans tomb. Then an earthquake and noise and the stone rolled away from the tomb and the cloth was folded on the table. An angel sat at the head of it. Mary saw it when she took spices on the donkeys and went to prepare His body and the stone was rolled away and He was gone! He was alive and other people rose with Him and appeared to people in the city of Jerusalem (the 24 elders rose then with Him) Jesus was there with His friends and after a while He said i have to go to my father so we can send the comforter to help you all. And He rose up in a cloud and said I”ll be back to take you with me soon. And now its almost time. He is calling us to come. [Jhn 8:58 KJV] 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. [Jhn 6:51 KJV] 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. [Jhn 8:23 KJV] 23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. [Jhn 10:9, 11 KJV] 9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. ... 11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. [Jhn 11:25 KJV] 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [Jhn 12:46 KJV] 46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. [Jhn 13:13 KJV] 13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am. [Jhn 14:6 KJV] 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [Jhn 15:1 KJV] 1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
I think I've never been so speechless in my life? How can you twist the scripture so violently and literally claimed that Jesus does not have a God and Heaven?? The Revelation was from God to our Messiah Jesus Christ his son. One person is God and one person is not. It can't be any more evident?🤣😂 All of the 27th New Testament books 9 authors ALL taught Jesus "has a God!!!😂 including all of the early church fathers?? Where are you concluding these ideas and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??
@Hayahwassa-t9j
@Hayahwassa-t9j 10 ай бұрын
@@RaptureReadyLaodicean is God with you? you hear His voice singing. talking to you? teaching you? i dont see any exciting revelations you have there so yes He does worship the Father He is our example. try worshipping Jesus sing to Him and see what happens
@Hayahwassa-t9j
@Hayahwassa-t9j 10 ай бұрын
He Jesus gave us the example got water baptized, filled with the Spirit too. i doubt you can hear His voice or you would be posting what amazing things He says. He is speaking to His true beleivers and singing over them all day @@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod 10 ай бұрын
Bill the Holy Bible says that God's name is Jehovah (Yehovah), please stop saying Yahweh, it's not in the Holy Bible. Only say what the Holy Bible says.
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod 10 ай бұрын
Look at the banner of your own channel for example, you've got יְהֹוָה (Yehovah) not יַהְוֶה (Yahweh).
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 10 ай бұрын
I think you are wrong too because in Hebrew there're no such words as Yahweh or Yehovah, they mean nothing to hebrews who lived in these times.
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod
@jesusisthechristthesonofgod 10 ай бұрын
יְהֹוָה@@Mckaule
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 10 ай бұрын
​@@jesusisthechristthesonofgod kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2LLaaappdWrpJIsi=fZUf_h2jmJxudBrA
@ken440
@ken440 9 ай бұрын
​@@Mckaulegood informative link. be interesting to see if this person comes back.
@jameszapata8290
@jameszapata8290 10 ай бұрын
Bill why are you searching the scriptures to find out if Jesus is not God. Why don't you ask the living Jesus Christ
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 10 ай бұрын
Antichrist will sit in the Temple of GOD declaring himself to be God himself. And this false Jesus is already sitting in your temple declaring he is God.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
I think Bill did, according to his testimony and as did I when I discovered the miss reading of trinity theology. I prayed and five big issues suddenly popped up when I only asked about the deity of Jesus and asked God to show me if I had been wrong for 40 years as a trinitarian. Wow, I suggest you do the same.
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
All 27th New Testament books? 9 DIFFERENT Authors ALL taught Jesus "has a God", including all of the early church fathers? So where are you concluding these ideas from and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??​​​ Do your own research🙄
@jameszapata8290
@jameszapata8290 10 ай бұрын
@@RaptureReadyLaodicean . The research is done. The Bible has thousands of lies and contradictions and it's all Mumble jumbled words added I took it out the Bible is not complete. I know that around 16 years old. That's why you have to go direct to the source and ask the living Jesus christ. The apostles never ministered the Bible the administered the spirit when the spirit gave them utterance
@MichaelTheophilus906
@MichaelTheophilus906 9 ай бұрын
@@RaptureReadyLaodicean Deut 6.4-6, Mark 12.28-32, John 17.3, John 20.17, Rom 15.6, Rom 16.27, I Cor 8.6, II Cor 11.31, I Tim 2.5, Rev 3.2, Rev 3.12, and many other scriptures.
@thelastadmin9272
@thelastadmin9272 10 ай бұрын
‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:6‬ [6] For a child will be born for us, a son will be given to us, and the government will be on his shoulders. He will be named Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. The prophecies of the messiah demand His deity and tri-unity. ‭John‬ ‭1:18‬ ‭ [18] No one has ever seen God. The one and only Son, who is himself God and is at the Father’s side  - he has revealed him. Jesus is described by John as God. Jesus Himself affirms this in John 17 alongside ‭Isaiah‬ ‭42:8‬ [8] I am the Lord. That is my name, and I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols. The Lord will not share His glory with another, only God can possess the glory of God. And yet Jesus says in ‭John‬ ‭17:1‭-‬5‬ ‭ [1] Jesus spoke these things, looked up to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son so that the Son may glorify you, [2] since you gave him authority over all people, so that he may give eternal life to everyone you have given him. [3] This is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and the one you have sent - Jesus Christ. [4] I have glorified you on the earth by completing the work you gave me to do. [5] Now, Father, glorify me in your presence with that glory I had with you before the world existed. ‭1 Timothy‬ ‭6:15‭-‬16‬ [15] God will bring this about in his own time. He is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings, and the Lord of lords, [16] who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see, to him be honor and eternal power. Amen. So Jesus is eternal, shares The Father's Glory, Has seen God, is prophesied to be God, is named Immanuel which means "God with us". Jesus is God.
@paulwalker6029
@paulwalker6029 10 ай бұрын
But he was not named Immanuel. He was named Jesus.
@thelastadmin9272
@thelastadmin9272 10 ай бұрын
@@paulwalker6029 ‭Isaiah‬ ‭7:14‬is [14] Therefore, the Lord himself will give you a sign: See, the virgin will conceive, have a son, and name him Immanuel. This is seen fulfilled in the virgin birth of Jesus. ‭Matthew‬ ‭1:20‭-‬23‬ [20] But after he had considered these things, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, don’t be afraid to take Mary as your wife, because what has been conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. [21] She will give birth to a son, and you are to name him Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.” [22] Now all this took place to fulfill what was spoken by the Lord through the prophet: [23] See, the virgin will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and they will name him Immanuel, which is translated “God is with us.” The word for name means more than the English word. It's both a name and authority. Just as Jesus is King of Kings, The First and the Last, etc... they are all titles of who He is. Jesus is God With Us.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Hi. Isaiah 9:6 has nothing to do with the "deity of Messiah". It's long (sorry), but toward the end of this article you can find some comments about Isaiah 9:6. landandbible.blogspot.com/2021/12/finding-evidence-for-deity-of-christ-in.html
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
All 27th New Testament books? 9 DIFFERENT Authors ALL taught Jesus "has a God", including all of the early church fathers? So where are you concluding these ideas from and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??​​​ Do your own research🧐
@paulwalker6029
@paulwalker6029 10 ай бұрын
@thelastadmin9272 a lot of English words have a double meaning. Now if you want to go down that rabbit hole we can change the entire book.
@user-vu6gy1jd2p
@user-vu6gy1jd2p 10 ай бұрын
Try using the King James version of the Bible, and see if you can still make your arguments. The King James version is believed to be the most accurate version of English bibles.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
kjv, is only claimed to be most accurate by those who like it. and it brings up an interesting logical concept......! If God was totally in control then there would only ever be one version translation because it would be perfect. So obviously God allows us all complete free will, meaning all translation has potential to be in error, so we must be diligent against false ideas in these last days. And as "these last days" is written by the apostles in scripture 2000 years ago then its obviously possible for false teaching to have been introduced earlier, as indeed we see addressed against greek gnostcism. So trinity and the proof by interptetation in translation might be error "in these last days" and certainly the kjv is much more modern than the documents found in the caves at qumron then the kjv must be as suspect as any other translation by any religious group.
@traviswatson3810
@traviswatson3810 10 ай бұрын
Hebrews 1:8
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 9 ай бұрын
This episode is about NT verses that show Jesus isn't God. The Book of Hebrews does, too. On Hebrews 1:8, have a look or listen. landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/04/hebrews-18-14-is-son-called-god-did.html
@307abraham
@307abraham 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your clear teaching. I learn the truth from you in few years than any pastors. For more than 20 years, i been confused to chose wich one wich. Anyway thanks again. But i have one vers couldn't answer with knowledge. Can you let me now what can i make Heb 1:8. It's so difficult to tell people the answer.
@eddieyoung2104
@eddieyoung2104 10 ай бұрын
In case Bill doesn't answer, here's my interpretation of it. Heb 1:8 references Psalm 45 where an earthly king is spoken of as God, who himself has a God. This isn't a problem because even human judges were described as gods in Psalm 82:6. Judges could be described as gods or mighty ones, because a judge exercises power over people. A king also does, and therefore the description of god (Elohim, mighty one) is applicable for him too. But, even a human mighty one has to have a mightier one above him. Likewise Jesus, though a mighty one during his ministry, and more so after his resurrection, still has a mightier one above him, who is his Father. The main purpose in Hebrews of quoting Psalm 45:6 is to show how Jesus is exalted above the angels, to have a throne and dominion which will last forever. And at the same time keeping in mind his human origin, describing him as a king over his fellows, like David was.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Abraham, there are a couple non-deity-of-Christ ways to understand Hebrews 1:8. I see that eddieyoung2104 has explained one way. Another way, which I think is better, I explained in a blog/podcast that I will link below. There is a link in the blogpost if you want to hear it. Briefly, Hebrews 1:8 can be translated/understood as "God is your throne". That is, like "God is my rock" communicates security and steadfastness, "God is my throne" communicates authority to rule. Blessings. landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/04/hebrews-18-14-is-son-called-god-did.html
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
Psalm 45 1 For the music director, according to “Lilies.” Of the sons of Korah, a contemplative song, a love song. 2 My heart is stirred with a good word. I speak my verses to the king. My tongue is the pen of a skillful writer. 3 You are the most handsome of the sons of men. Grace pours from your lips. Therefore God has blessed you forever. 4 Gird your sword on your thigh, O mighty one, in your splendor and your majesty. 5 In your majesty ride victoriously, on behalf of truth, meekness and justice. Let your right hand display awesome things. 6 Your arrows are sharp. Peoples fall beneath you- into the heart of the king’s enemies. 7 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a scepter of justice is the scepter of Your kingdom. 8 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness. Therefore, God, your God, anointed you with the oil of gladness above your companions.[a] 9 All your robes have myrrh, aloes, cassia. From ivory palaces, stringed instruments make you glad. 10 Kings’ daughters are among your honored women. At your right hand stands the queen in gold of Ophir. 11 “Listen, O daughter, consider and incline your ear. Forget your people and your father’s house. 12 Then the king will desire your beauty. Honor him, for he is your lord. 13 A daughter of Tyre comes with a gift. The richest people will court your favor.” 14 All glorious is the king’s daughter within the palace- her gown is interwoven with gold.[b] 15 She will be led to the king in embroidered garments. Her virgins, her companions following her, are coming in to you. 16 They are led in with joy and gladness- they enter into the palace of the king. 17 Your sons will take your fathers’ place. You will make them princes throughout the land. 18 I will cause your name to be remembered in all generations. Therefore the nations will praise you forever and ever.
@cliffordbrock
@cliffordbrock 10 ай бұрын
The problem is you’re trying to discern scripture without the spirit. Father, Son, HolySpirit 💯🙏🏽
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
The Trinity is NOT in the Bible it's P🥚gan and it can't be explained... Nor was it intended to be, 27 New Testament books 9 authors who all said Jesus has a god. FYI I can solve your Trinity mystery sadly it's pre-flood and been around for quite a while look up look up the Hindu Trinity😬
@andrewk128
@andrewk128 10 ай бұрын
What trinitarians belive: God can die (1Ti 6:16) God has a God (Joh 20:17) Gods God has anoited God with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Heb 1:9) You can not see the first person of the trinity and live but you can see the second person of the trinity god the son and live. God say to God "may not my will be done but yours" Mat 26:39 God has made God Lord (Acts 2:36)
@ken440
@ken440 9 ай бұрын
​@@andrewk128I could say that the trinitarians get it wrong because they dont have the spirit, but someone already used that line, and as i was one for years i know they have the spirit too, but they choose not to listen to the spirit on this matter, because they are certain they are right. You can see it here in the comments.
@christopherrobitaille9774
@christopherrobitaille9774 10 ай бұрын
Get behind me, Satan.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
"Get behind me satan" Thats what Jesus said to Peter, so using the normal evangelical trinitarian logic of seeing what is written in any verse and saying "we must take this verse literally" then here we see proven from Jesus own mouth, that Peter is the devil. And to build theology on one verse then as Peter was regarded as first pope the catholic church is headed by the devil???? hmmm? does it work like that?
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
The Trinity is NOT in the Bible Nor was it intended to be, 27 New Testament books 9 authors who all said Jesus has a god. FYI I can solve your Trinity mystery sadly it's pre-flood and been around for quite a while look up look up the Hindu Trinity😭😭😭
@SaRKasTiKTurtl3
@SaRKasTiKTurtl3 10 ай бұрын
John 1:1 -In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 8:58 -"Jesus answered, 'I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I AM!", John 10:30 -"The Father and I are one." Two of those are pretty clear claims coming from Jesus' own mouth.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
really? why not read some other comments and see how many try the same idea. Look at some other videos on this channel, theres heaps covering those two holy handgrenades.
@kimmagnuson6834
@kimmagnuson6834 10 ай бұрын
I will address "The Father and I are one" comment, as verse 30 alone is taking the entire context of Jesus' saying and leaving it out. Go back to verse 27 and read it through verse 30 and especially read verse 29 which states that the Father is "greater than ALL." which certainly means greater than Jesus, negating the 3 co equal co eternal claims of the trinity. Here is verse 27 through verse 30. "John 10:27-30 ESV My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” Instead of just citing verse 30, you should see that verse 30 should be kept in context of the previous 3 verses which talk about the "sheep" and that the Father, God, took care of the sheep and gave them to his son who also takes care of the sheep and they are ONE in purpose of caring for the sheep, but they are not one in the same God. There is only one God, and Jesus defines that God as greater than all and the one that gave him the "sheep." It gets simple once you believe Jesus to be who he says he is and that is the Messiah, anointed one.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
@@kimmagnuson6834 Yes exactly right. This person should now be able to see easily that the one God is the owner of the sheep who entrusts His shepherd agent to look after the sheep.
@SaRKasTiKTurtl3
@SaRKasTiKTurtl3 10 ай бұрын
@@ken440 I would suggest to you then, go watch videos from William Lain Craig, Frank Turek, John Lennox... I would say some very notable apologists. Everyone that used the same idea came to the same conclusion. I just don't see how Jesus said those things and I'm supposed to think otherwise. He didn't say it as a metaphor, it wasn't said in a parable. Jesus said "I AM" and "I and the father are ONE"- these are claims, not suggestions or expressions.
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
@SaRKasTiKTurtl3 Consider that God spoke the creation into existence in the beginning, And God spoke to the naughty three saying "the seed of the woman will bruise the head of the devil" meaning a descendant of Eve, a human. Later God said (note words are being used here) through Moses " I will raise up a great prophet from among your people (obviously then a hebrew human) and I will put My words in his mouth." Deut18:18. and it was written in words, spoken in words, prophecied in words, and in the course of time that word of God (hebrew scripture) was fleshed out in the promised messiah, a great one who told us at least three times, a couple of them in Johns gospel... "I say nothing of myself, but I only say (and do ) what my God and father says through me" and it is written that Jesus is "the full manifestation of the invisible God" and Peter says about Jesus "this man, attested BY GOD, has been raised..... has been MADE Lord and anointed (christos) this Jesus you killed." And Paul says that Jesus is "first fruits" and is "first raised to glory, first of many brothers and sisters raised to glory" ( something we are still awaiting). Just because translators put a capital W on word, doesnt turn it into a being, god or human. As for I AM, go look at exodus in the greek septuagint, and read it fully. "Ego eimi ho on" so ego emi being "I am" is just the co joiner of the speaker to the subject "ho on" which is "the being" and Jesus says effectivly "(messiah) I am." because the co joiner is about context of their conversation, that Abraham as a prophet foresaw the messiah in his future progeny, and it made him glad. Jesus is saying "I am that messiah" but the pharisees trying to trick him use sarcasm on him saying "abraham was mellenia ago and you are not even 50 yrs old!!" And the trinity theology side with the pharisees here !!!!
@eliasmailosson9547
@eliasmailosson9547 10 ай бұрын
You cannot be a christian and say Jesus is not God
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
Three "nots," a tripple negative, and I lose what you are implying. So are you saying Jesus is NOT God? Edit; you fixed your typo. but your theology still needs fixing.
@eliasmailosson9547
@eliasmailosson9547 10 ай бұрын
@@ken440 😅 typo sorry
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
@@eliasmailosson9547 Well now that I see what you are saying, i have to say I disagree entirely. Jesus is not God. Jesus is the fiorst man raised to Glory, first of many to follow. Have you listened to this video and considered the 10 points? I was a trinitarian for 4 decades and God showed me the religious traditions I was holding too. Finding my trinity theology in a few verses dotted about in NT, like raisins in a bun. Instead of seeing the verses that say Jesus is a man anointed by God, a lamb of God, not God Himself, and seeing the full context of scripture and the passover lamb principle and the foreshadow of Joseph UNDER Pharaoh, while he saves Egypt, his family and blesses his father Jacob, all while being at Pharaohs right hand with all authority, yet was a lowly servant, not even Egyptian. I hope you get to see this.
@shanederry2691
@shanederry2691 10 ай бұрын
You aren't anybody's judge. But since you are casting stones. Show us anywhere in the Bible where believing Jesus is God is required for salvation!! Jesus denied he was God!! So I say you cannot be a Christian!!! Stop trolling on here!!
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
All 27th New Testament books? 9 DIFFERENT Authors ALL taught Jesus "has a God", including all of the early church fathers? So where are you concluding these ideas from and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??​​​ Do your own research🙄
@Jamesp0nd
@Jamesp0nd 10 ай бұрын
Jesus is God. I died and MET him in HEAVEN. You cannot deny that. I felt myself leave my body and felt my soul fall back into it. Jesus is God. Heaven is real. It's all real. ❤
@practice-righteousness
@practice-righteousness 10 ай бұрын
Did Jesus tell you, that he is The Creator, or is that a conclusion, which you've made yourself later, because of your religious belief? If Jesus were really The Creator, then he would NOT say, that he did NOT come to do his own will, but to do the will of the Father, which SENT him! Jesus did NOT contradict himself!
@tekiwi
@tekiwi 10 ай бұрын
Wrong!!! I died also, crossed over, spoke with with my soul guides, and had the hand of God put me back in my body which I DO NOT wish upon any mortal soul. Jesus is NOT God, his soul is a small part of God's energy as are you, he was just a regular dude and that's the truth!!! You meet your ego, you personal consciousness, you saw what you believed to be real yet it was a projection of your conscious beliefs playing out in front of you. You may have flat lined for a while, however their is a HUGE difference in what one experiences when they flat line and literally cross over 10000%. I've seen this with many whom say they've died. It's why sooo many experiences are different. Yet those that literally 10000% die, cross over and experience the other side truly ALL have the exact same experience. Also the souls/angels on the other side can take on any human image they choose so their is that possibility however the fact that you never said you talked with him also verifies it was a projection from your consciousness to bring you comfort in a distressing time!!
@jameszapata8290
@jameszapata8290 10 ай бұрын
James spond. You cannot go to heaven into your Eternal judgement the Eternal judgement hasn't even started yet. Since you don't have the Holy Spirit In You Satan can give you dreams visions and Revelations because you belong to him. Without the Holy Spirit you don't belong to Jesus. So don't let Satan bamboozle you. Jesus is not God. Jesus does have God in him he has his holy spirit. To find out the truth ask the living Jesus Christ. Pray in the spirit. That means meditation slowly close your eyes concentrate on your breathing count to 10 parrot then you're in the spirit Realm ask the Holy Spirit to tell Jesus what you said and a prayer is from the heart. Don't take no prayer on this Earth or in the Bible Jesus does not accept those prayers say whatever you want to say from the heart that is a prayer and pray many times throughout the day as possible and give up living in the flesh come to repentance change to God's ways and pray till you get an answer. It's easy to receive the Holy Spirit but it's hard to keep it. Don't rely on the Bible. The Bible has thousands of lies and contradictions it's all Mumble jumbled words added and taken out it's not complete rely on Jesus
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
​@@tekiwi🙏Thank you very much, I have heard the wackiest ndes and I tend to avoid them because I don't want to lose faith in God is? 🗣There's a guy Randy Kay, and he seems wonderful and genuine but he straight face smiles and tells you there's a trinity and that Jesus is God and God is also God in heaven😮
@matthewavstreih5039
@matthewavstreih5039 9 ай бұрын
Do we believe you and your "experience ' or do we believe the plain words of God, Jesus, Paul etc 🤔
@thatwhichhasbeen-isthatwhi6575
@thatwhichhasbeen-isthatwhi6575 10 ай бұрын
So many too choose from. Maybe one of the following will appear in the next five. Acts 17:31:- because He has set a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness through a >[Man]< whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all people by raising Him from the dead.” Rom 5:10:- For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God >[through the death of His Son,]< much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 1 Tim 2:5:-For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and mankind, the >[man]< Christ Jesus. Heb 2:7:- therefore, >[he had to become like his brothers]< in every way, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest before God to expiate the sins of the people. Heb 4:15:- For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but >[One who has been tempted in all things]< just as we are,yet without sin. Peace
@iloveyhvhyireh
@iloveyhvhyireh 10 ай бұрын
YESHUA is the LORD GOD of the holy prophets who sent his angel. 👌 (Rev 22:6) God bless and shalom.
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
So God is a prophet?
@socketman
@socketman 10 ай бұрын
That's not what Rev 22:6 says though. Jesus is speaking to John - “These words are faithful and true, and the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angels to show to his servants the things that must shortly come to pass.” If you were going to take it as Jesus is the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, why doesn't he say "I" instead of "he" here?
@iloveyhvhyireh
@iloveyhvhyireh 10 ай бұрын
@@cc3775 Are you bilnd? 😎 Read and try again. 🙄
@iloveyhvhyireh
@iloveyhvhyireh 10 ай бұрын
@@socketman Then read Rev 22:16 to gain more understanding. Okay 👌
@cc3775
@cc3775 10 ай бұрын
@@iloveyhvhyireh Jesus speaks the words of God, which makes him a prophet.
@user-zz2bp6bi6x
@user-zz2bp6bi6x 10 ай бұрын
Blasphemy!
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
All 27th New Testament books? 9 DIFFERENT Authors ALL taught Jesus "has a God", including all of the early church fathers? So where are you concluding these ideas from and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??​​​ Do your own research🙄
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
what do you find blasphemous?
@user-zz2bp6bi6x
@user-zz2bp6bi6x 9 ай бұрын
Arianism is blasphemy. U will see what happens when you stand before Jesus God the son.
@andrewk128
@andrewk128 9 ай бұрын
Acts 17:31 (ASV) inasmuch as he hath appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness BY the man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. Acts 2:22 (ASV) Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God unto you by mighty works and wonders and signs which God did by him in the midst of you, even as ye yourselves know; Acts 10:38 (ASV) even Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. And give me a verse in the Bible that describes Jesus as God the son. And listnen to what John wrote: John 20:31 (ASV) but these are written, that ye may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye may have life in his name. The Son of God not God the Son you twist things around.
@ken440
@ken440 9 ай бұрын
I agree with Andrewk128 The Son of God not God the Son you twist things around. Are you sure you know what Arianism is? Because all his works were destroyed by zealous trinitarians (or at least Athenasious's binatarians) so no one knows what he taught as all we have recorded is what his enemies recorded. If in the future people tried to understand what Biblical Unitarians said, and they looked at what trinitarian commenters on KZbin said, then they would get a very wrong idea. Because the comments we get here show that most trinitarian commenters seem to have no idea what we are trying to say to you. They are more concerned with being heresy hunters.
@KirkDavis1966
@KirkDavis1966 10 ай бұрын
If you can read the book Of HEBREWS and not believe He is God, your just not very smart..Sorry, Christ IS God or as Thomas said " MY LORD AND MY GOD!"
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
what do you think of Heb1:2, where through Jesus God made the world?
@RaptureReadyLaodicean
@RaptureReadyLaodicean 10 ай бұрын
All 27th New Testament books? 9 DIFFERENT Authors ALL taught Jesus "has a God", including all of the early church fathers? So where are you concluding these ideas from and why are you bearing false witness against Jesus AND the Bible??​​​ Do your own research🧐
@ken440
@ken440 10 ай бұрын
do you really not understand what was expressed in this video? Did you actually listen to it?
@KirkDavis1966
@KirkDavis1966 10 ай бұрын
@ken440 I understand clearly, But when the deciples said " Lord, show us the father." Christ replied " I AM In The Father and He in me, If you have seen me You have seen Him."
@KirkDavis1966
@KirkDavis1966 10 ай бұрын
@ken440 Also, You clearly want to lead other astray, The trinity is God The Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit who are one, I won't even entertain this point of view spawned in hell..
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