199 - The Disappearance of Jie Zhao Li

[@lisahinton9682]

When hearing that the photographs had been passed out to the media over the years, and none returned, leaving the family with only one picture of their daughter/sister, that made me cry. I can't imagine not having any pictures because the media were so careless with such precious items, leaving the family bereft of any remembrance of the little one.

[@visassess8607]

Exactly. They don't care about the people or victims, they just want to write a story then move on to the next one.

[@vanessamanriquez-cruz633]

I like how you speak quick enough to keep an amazing flow and make it easy to concentrate but not so fast you miss out.

[@Catie2010]

I cried after hearing the story of her giving an egg to her Mom. Reminds me of my own daughters. 😢 what a sweetheart and what am awful tragedy. That poor family. 😢

[@fireicemetal]

Speak english

[@adamwenger6171]

@@fireicemetal bruh... really?

[@eugeniaarmendariz9489]

What a tragedy to lose a child, coming to a new country, and with a language barrier. 😢

[@davidaston5773]

I wonder if it was politically motivated. As a family that had escaped China, there may be people who didn't like that. It's sad. Fate can be a right bast*ard.

[@rebeccawhite2582]

TY for doing this case. This girl deserves it.

[@bringthepayne7561]

The little story about her giving her mother and egg she'd saved.Simply took me under...

[@leahvogelsimpson]

Only 11 mins in and all this family went through to lose their daughter when they came to the states is excruciatingly sad. The way you describe everything makes it so easy to envision as well.

[@justiceseeker]

Unfortunately the little girl is more than likely dead. This world is full of evil.

[@marklittler784]

Absolutely despicable taking other people's children for their own sick reasons.

[@Biker65]

Every time I watch one of these I feel guilty about complaining about my little problems.

[@profhortsunlover1536]

same

[@brianbauer2595]

The narrator of this channel, really makes this channel feel deep and emotional. It's a nice touch to an already great channel. Amazing.

[@sheelfjohnson]

I love the fact that he doesn't add any drama to it, because these cases are already dramatic enough.

[@brianbauer2595]

@@sheelfjohnson Yes, I agree.

[@saro9909]

i hate the detail about the media never returning the pictures they were given of Jie to her parents

[@anneloving8405]

Oh that's unforgivable!!!!!☹️

[@legion_1123]

I just wanted to congratulate you on getting featured on the 100th episode of Cold Justice on the Oxygen channel!

[@Raminakai]

I feel so sad for this little girl and her family. When I was 12, I was 5 foot ten, and looked like an adult. I often went places by myself. Often had adult men proposition me, and had some close calls, but my height and build( I was about 140,lbs , athletic, ) probably helped me. I also was street wise. This little one looked very young. So innocent. Sometimes, I think my physical size was a deterrent. Also, I think what some people fail to understand is that " freedom " does Not mean " safety." In fact, freedom can be quite unsafe. When people are allowed to roam around not being highly monitored, you have to be more cautious. Not everyone has the same values, or the same beliefs. There are many unstable people out there no one is caring for, their are many perverted folks allowed to have freedom too. It comes at a high price. I think these people are excellent parents, and just didn't perceive the danger being as high as it actually was. Please watch over your little ones, and never let them go out by themselves. We live among wolves. Be vigilant, pray, and look out for the vulnerable. God Bless each one of you watching. To Xi's family: I pray for your broken heart. You are a good family. Someday, you will see her again. God will do justice.

[@janetmiller2980]

I suspect some creep took advantage of her small stature, which I wonder if it was related to poor nutrition in her native country, and limited English proficiency. May he be punished in the next life if not this one.

[@marklittler784]

Yellow Chevy, Orange Pony tail, yet doesn't ring any bells ? How strange !

[@smurfiennes]

Poor girl and her family. In China she must be hidden, then she had found her freedom before she was gone. Some fate is too cruel to some people.

[@eveliinaniilivuo7329]

Love and support from Finland!🤗 You really put your time and effort to this podcast and these videos, thank you!🫶

[@scottcantdance804]

I'm always impressed by the ratio of saunas to people in your country.

[@BlueKauai]

This one was a heartbreaker. I guess they all are.

[@michelewarpalcak5448]

Awesome narrator & content. Xox

[@bostonsandatot4948]

"Students told to be more careful selling chili tickets". What a terrible victim blaming headline. This poor family coming to America after a stressful life of struggle and having their child stolen.

[@maruzencentral]

Daily uploads!? I'm so grateful

[@JenniB123]

Yes. Its hard to believe with the amount of work that goes into these episodes!

[@loredanadincu4300]

@@JenniB123 this episodes where already posted on podcast apps, some months ago. He just post them on KZbin now.

[@fabledfantasty7343]

Trace Evidence.... What at a great surprise, to see that u are uploading so many new episodes! Haven't checked out ur channel in awhile & thought that I was gonna have to find a new favorite, true crime channel, when I saw that u had stopped editing ur weekly vids, to only once a month. Thanks for all the hard work that u put into ur amazing channel & hope that u continue uploading more often.

[@bear3279]

thank you for your hard work

[@smurfiennes]

I’ve watched many crime stories, but I’ve never heard this one before. Thank you. Please do a video about the murder of Maartje Pieck. She was the great grand daughter of Anton Pieck, a famous painter and illustrator in NL.

[@myahollandia3552]

Nooit van gehoord

[@truebluewonderful1139]

You'd better send him an e-mail, because chances are that he won't read it here. He mentions the e-mailadress at the end of each story. Greetz from the Netherlands

[@D13_antraxsicario_CDS]

Ummmm, Mr.Pacheco, have you now disappeared? We need our Trace Evidence fix sir. Hope all is well.

[@carlwheezer1030]

Check spotify

[@kodokanshiai2143]

Trace evidence ! You got us spoiled. I look for a new episode every morning now 😂

[@kodokanshiai2143]

Nvm ):

[@av.6365]

So grateful, thank you.

[@Rex-rg3ce]

Cime back dad it's been 3 months.

[@SilentC90]

I hope Bro is OK. It's been a while

[@JenniB123]

What a tragic, heart wrenching case.

[@CL-we8tn]

Thank you for the video, this has become my go to true crime channel, and I'm still really a new subscriber. The amount of effort and research you put into each case is phenomenal. I rarely comment here because you have covered every angle! I admire that you have an opinion and are blunt and sharp towards those who messed up an investigation or those being sought for a crime, both are equally despicable and deserving of our scorn. Ken Maines once said about cold cases, that if you're not doing it for the family, then you're in the wrong business. I think you, Ken, Jared Leisek and a few others are in the right business. I thank you for doing this, and as you once said: If the victim had to go through it, the least I can do is listen to it.

[@trishdaly5761]

Stop schools from asking students to sell tickets. This practise has been going on for years in schools. Asking kids to sell tickets that they end up walking door to door selling them, this would never have happened. Let's the teachers go out and raise money for schools, not kids.

[@Evan-vy3zj]

I could get used to this!

[@danjohnson887]

Wow, they lived in an unfinished garage with bare floors and no hot water and STILL felt they were better off than living in China. You don't hear that on the news too often huh? I truly hope this family someday gets the answers they're looking for.

[@profhortsunlover1536]

grass isn't always greener, i can't imagine how hard it must be to start from scratch in a foreign country

[@Preservestlandry]

Why would you hear it on the news?

[@danjohnson887]

@@Preservestlandry The only things you hear about China on mainstream (censored) news is that China is just wonderful and full of sunshine and rainbows. In reality, it's a polluted, (mostly) third world, where it's citizens suffer and live in fear.

[@grapeshot]

When my kids used to sell candy. I used to always go with them to make sure something like this didn't happen.

[@myahollandia3552]

Good for you

[@grapeshot]

@@myahollandia3552 good for my kids too

[@justiceseeker]

I just didnt let my kids do this, but the world is full of parents that just dont think it will ever happen to their family. Then it does.!!!!

[@heidimedel]

I would never let my kids go out alone either. But that's because I survived the 80s; where we had hardly any supervision in general and life was different. The one and only reason I survived the 80s was because I watched the very first movie about Ted Bundy at the age of 6 when my mom wasn't paying attention. Fast forward 2 years and a man tried to abduct me omw to school and that movie came to my mind so I gave him the finger and ran off into a field in the opposite direction of him. It was just a different time.

[@aqua-angela]

Times were different in 1988. Kids had a little more freedom, and given that her parents were immigrants they probably didn’t have the acute “stranger danger” mentality yet. Really sad story.

[@Scorpiogrrly916]

It’s been 2 months since his last upload 😢😢 are you still here? I love your channel.

[@thebeasters]

He's got a few newer ones on Spotify

[@Bebecat477]

Tragic, sad story. Thank you for covering it.

[@anneloving8405]

I don't think she ever left the island

[@rinsedpie]

Look at the pictures of the Mom; look at her house, her clothes, her face; she is poor with very little possession.. and someone cruel took one happiness from her. How cruel for that person to do that to her

[@elevatedemotions4548]

This Area is so Busy with Cars and People ..Lots of Chinese and Asian speaking people but I would guess a Teen or Young adult led her off somewhere secluded because her screams would have surely been heard This time of Day!

[@always_b_natural703]

Having once been a girl, and lived expat, I doubt she would have gone with some white guy. My guess is that a native speaker of her Chinese dialect either talked to her to make her comfortable, or someone she knew somewhat, such as a school janitor, store clerk, family member of a friend, got her. I wouldn't doubt that she's been trafficked. What a horrific and sad situation.

[@smurfiennes]

It could be anyone. Hawaii is a melting pot.

[@marklittler784]

Many people your not familiar with can get your confidence in a short time.

[@fabledfantasty7343]

always_b_natural.... "Some white guy", really, what is that supposed to mean?

[@Keirnoth]

Brah what da fak you talkin about?

[@howdareyouexist]

very true

[@yabeenbamboozled5067]

Very sad, seems like a straight-up nightmarish case of opportunistic stranger abduction. Real creepy and disturbing

[@profhortsunlover1536]

look at her parents closer

[@Laura-tp8wz]

Thank you

[@MidnightVentures]

Video/actual story starts at 5 mins in.

[@thebernaboi4682]

Great content been watching for about 2 weeks and been binge watching since lol can you do a John lang episode his cases is very strange thank you for the great content

[@masudashizue777]

I'm in Honolulu but didn't hear about this case at all. You can't let your guard down, even in Hawaii.

[@stephaniek1076]

Just a clarification detail...the island of Oahu is the Main Island; the island of Hawai'i is known as The Big Island. All most lovely, imo.

[@AndalusianPhilosopher]

I feel sorry for the family. A sad story. I feel a possibility needs to be explored that she might have been taken out of Hawaii. I live in Edmonton Canada. Back in June we had a missing case of 13 year old girl vanishing. Luckily she turned out to be alive over 1500 miles away in Portland Oregon. It was quite a shock. No one expected her to be so far away. Need to look through Jane Does in as many places as possible. I hope things will get resolved. There are cases where missing people are found after decades. Another suggestion try ancestry. Maybe she indeed lives far away under different name. In these cases you have to explore as many possibilities and avenues as you can.

[@suzannah991]

I know you didn't ask, but her name would be pronounced "jee-eh" (one long word, I can't think of an english word it sounds like) "jaoh" (like cow) and you got "Li" right. It's really hard to know how to pronounce chinese names unless you speak a little or practice a lot. Thanks for uploading so much great content!

[@mistermista2927]

Chinese is probably the most difficult languages for an English speaker to pronounce in large part because pinyin is the most inefficient romanization system ever thought up lmao

[@suzannah991]

@@mistermista2927 You think so? I find pinyin to be very helpful.

[@suzannah991]

@@mistermista2927 You think so? I find pinyin to be very helpful.

[@mistermista2927]

@@suzannah991 as an English speaker it just comes across as kinda obtuse, but maybe that's just me. There's a lot to learn with it that would be easier to the average person if they just spelled the sounds differently, haha

[@suzannah991]

@@mistermista2927 you have to learn the sounds first. It's not really possible to correctly pronounce the words without learning bopomofo first. These are not sounds heard in English. So change in pinyin spelling isn't going to help much imo.

[@felipe5127]

Hey Steve are you okay? You haven't posted in awhile.

[@scottfox7223]

I am confused …. Are you no longer making new episodes , Steven ?

[@marklittler784]

Of course predators don't necessarily always continue living in the same area.

[@profhortsunlover1536]

it was likely her family, neglect, accidents happen

[@jessxo4363]

RIP angel

[@Keirnoth]

Wow... I know exactly where that area is. No bodies of water she could've fell into near there. It's all roads and buildings. This area is somewhat near the freeway and there's a fair number of homeless and other transients around there, some with drug addiction and mental problems. Oahu is such a small place compared to the states. It's absolutely baffling this poor girl would get taken in such a conspicuous area and worst of all not found yet. Oahu does have some remote areas in the north and northwest side of the island and there's a fair number of places where there is no development except for highways at high elevations. Take a look at the H3 in street view for example. The sides of the H3 is nothing but steep greenery.

[@madamebutterfly851]

I was born in Honolulu and grew up in Ewa Beach and during the 80s and 90s that area of the island was not that heavily developed, I can actually remember acers upon acres of sugar canes fields all the way up til the mid 90s in areas that are now all covered in homes and businesses. But you're right it's so bizzare to think on a small island she could vanish and not be found..so so sad.

[@marklittler784]

Predators rarely confine themselves to one case, the predator was possibly arrested for another case.

[@laurieclarkson9180]

Thoughts: She is in a high visibility area with bustling roads and stores, in addition she is drawing attention to herself by approaching people to sell tickets. At any time, she too could be approached-perhaps a curious stranger wanting to know what she's selling, a previous ticket buyer deciding to purchase more, or someone that declined a ticket but changed their mind and want one after all, or even her parents who may be lurking nearby. The perpetrator would be taking a HUGE risk to snatch this little one in that area. He would especially draw attention if he were a different nationality trying to pick her up or stuff her in his bright yellow car! I think it's more likely he was a neighbor on one of the side streets--less visible--and likely the same nationality. This happens when school is over, but before dinner. An unattended little girl is opportunistic, but he'd have to make sure his own schedule is clear. He was likely ending his work day or off work entirely or even unemployed. If he is married, his wife would be expecting him and his own kids would be home. Crimes of opportunity are usually committed by unorganized offenders like people with drinking drug issues, mental illness like schizo, problems with adulting and being irresponsible. They often don't have wives and kids. If they snatch a kid, they do their thing and sloppily leave the kid on the side of the road where the kid is usually easily found. This child has never been found, so someone hid her well--an organized offender. This makes me think it was partially opportunistic and partially planned. I'm thinking a neighbor who knew she was selling tickets, knew her parents weren't around, weren't easily seen, didn't have any responsibilities that day or family around. She may have asked him to buy a ticket earlier in the week and he started thinking about taking her then and hoped he'd encounter her again. He probably waited on one of the side streets. She probably knew of him, trusted him to some degree. Another thing..robbery could be a lesser motive..kid walking around with cash while alone although she wouldn't have a large amount. Druggies will take what they can get. I also worry about older kids/teenagers.

[@Somegirl811]

I was thinking robbery or a creepy neighbor/acquaintance, too. So many creeps out there.

[@cadillacdeville5828]

He definitely deserves more subscribers

[@moonchildluvsbobcrane]

🕯 Jie

[@marialauria7307]

Maybe in Honolulu they don't have video outside to view

[@kevinoshea4134]

Steve turn your spreaker up please

[@janetmiller2980]

I’m very sad for this family. They wanted to raise their family where they could be free and not hide two of their daughters and were punished with the disappearance of one. May they all be reunited some day.

[@D3Hearts]

The case of 10 year old Holly Piirainen has never been solved. She was found dead in the woods months after her disappearance. She had gone to see some puppies with her brother at their grandparents house. The brother returned but she did not

[@jeffreyt76]

This is a well known story in Hawaii. As well as Diane Suzuki. It’s so frustrating that we’re unable to know what happened and by who. That evil person is still out there.

[@profhortsunlover1536]

not if it was an accidental family death

[@JO-lx9bx]

yea how much American freedom you get is directly related to how much money you have

[@heidimedel]

Agreed. I was just explaining that to my son. It's not that I want a lot of money. It's that freedom costs money here. I can't do squat without it.

[@suzannah991]

Totally agree, but the CPC is still incredibly oppressive. My favorite pastime is complaining about the US, but my SO and I weighed our options this year (he is from HK) and America still seemed like the better choice. Yeah, they have healthcare, but the CPC is not the kind of government you want to live under. Even if the US govt sucks lol

[@JO-lx9bx]

@@suzannah991 i agree. my fam came from Russia and that place sucks way harder than America.

[@profhortsunlover1536]

Europe is the place to be.

[@heidimedel]

@@suzannah991 Southern Mexico was amazing when I lived there. I wish I would have stayed.

[@carwashadamcooper1538]

A Yellow, late 50s Chevy but without the tailfins= a Checker

[@Saudi_queen]

Why would they even suggest a run away she had a trip she was looking forward to new to a country she could barely understand n a loving family even suggesting runaway once is kinda stupid

[@tishahouse846]

Listening from the ukwales❤️

[@Col91016]

Being on an island,she could have been abducted,killed and dumped into the sea from a boat,yacht.

[@germanshepherd6638]

Can you do a video on the strange disappearance of David Sneddon and Ani Ashekian

[@bry160701]

you should do a show on cindy song

[@jhibbitt1]

this reminds me of the beaumont children.

[@fundude4566]

Finally caught up

[@katerryjackson749]

Cute little girl, sad case

[@mollygibson4402]

"J" is pinyin is pronouned similar to "T". Just a small 0.2 for those who want to learn something new everyday😬

[@haydenholden1367]

“SH-treet?” Lol

[@williammorris3303]

At least some Chinese immigrants can go to Hawaii. I mean why shouldn’t they? Just because native Hawaiian people can’t afford to live there anymore doesn’t mean America shouldn’t give their land away to immigrants

[@Big74Mike2012]

@ 5:56 The main "thoroughbred"?? I assume you meant "thoroughfare"?! I doubt they traveled down the main horse through town! 🐴 😆😆😆

[@profhortsunlover1536]

it is a robot narrator, that's why it doesn't correct itself, it just reads what was typed for it to read

[@Mz.TiFa23]

🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@gracecatz3996]

Oh that precious girl and her poor family 😔💔🙏

[@TigersandBearsOhMy]

Steven, for the love of god, PLEASE stop referring to little girls as "young women." "Woman" is defined as an adult female. A young woman would be a young adult female, NOT a little girl! Don't contribute to the type of society that finds it acceptable to sexualize and adultify young girls.

[@Somegirl811]

At the 1 hour mark almost ecactly, he actually makes that distinction so i think you may have misunderstood.

[@deborahpark6511]

𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖒𝖔𝖘𝖒 👌

[@christinegatto7426]

Could she have been trafficked?

[@skelter1153]

I sure am GLAD that I never gave this guy any money. I thought about doing it a few times but now look... 3 MONTHS without even an explanation on why there hasn't been any uploads. No "sorry guys, I'm really busy" or "I'm working on something special." OR not even a "F--k you." He stopped caring about his content a year ago and just phones them in now. The beginning uploads were actually really well done and gripping. I've been here since the very first upload and I was a fan up until last year. I believe he still has the ability to STILL make great case studies and content, he just chooses not to. Your Patreon Contributors are waiting, Stevie!

[@Goopy200]

Maybe you should have checked other platforms before going on a silly rant. He still actively posts on Spotify, Patreon, and other podcast platforms. He has just stopped uploading to KZbin specifically for some reason.

[@SL.D]

You want a f--k you? I'll give you one.

[@SL.D]

'I've been a fan since first upload, 5 years ago, and yet never once offered to support the content I demand he spend hours upon hours compiling, at the expense of having an actual life. WAAAAA.' You can fk off over there. And when you get there, you can fk off further. Keep going until you have zero fks left.