Track Comparison Test - GT3RS Generations

[@997GTSILVER]

I've driven all 3 on track and like the 996 and 997.1 RS more and the reason behind my decision is 1. Better feedback from the car/chassis 2. Responsive engine than the 3.8rs 3. They are more raw and more fun to drive. Great video and keep up the good work.

[@brianhimmelman420]

Ditto … agree

[@kangvp9512]

The 996 GT3 is the greatest GT3 911 yet. In terms of fun driving.

[@mjc6278]

All of the cars with the 'Mezger' block GT1 996 GT3 MK I & II & RS versions 996 GT2 996 Turbo & Turbo S 997 GT3 Gen I & II & RS versions 997 Turbo Gen I only. 997 GT2 & GT2 RS

[@iansherman7964]

Martin C Thanks, I was going to mention he forgot the 996/997.1 Turbos and GT2/RS models.

[@matthewthroup6270]

and of course the GT2 and Turbo also have the Megzer engine ... but I realise this video is about GT3's ... but just adding a comment not a criticism .... I have driven 996 turbo, GT2 and GT3 RS. I liked really liked the Turbo, loved the GT2 but disliked the GT3RS. Crampt, did not like the look and it tramlined which is a pig to drive on the motorway it was all over the place.

[@Jagman5]

It’s not a Mezger block, because it has no block. Call it Mezger engine instead.

[@staceybass957]

Fantastic explanation of these 3 cars. Great vid many thanks!

[@thefridgeman]

Just a couple of things: - 0:58 - the Mezger engine also went into non direct injection Turbos (996, 997.1) - 12:10 - wrong, the "black one"; the RS gen 1 does not have ESP

[@Jagman5]

Right! And the reason Porsche put these buttons in is because they had to install those ESP / TC systems by law! The great thing is, that they let you deactivate them even separately! Before criticizing, you should try to understand firstly...

[@thefridgeman]

@@Jagman5 "Firstly", TC is not required by law, cut the bullshit. Second, what you just said doesn't contradict anything from my statement. Just pointed out that he was wrong saying that the 997.1 RS hat ESP. It doesn't. Don't get your panties in a wad, princess Burek.

[@Jagman5]

@@thefridgeman TC is part of the ESP system and is required by law. My statement was meant not for you but the the guy at the video if you just read it correctly as I begin with “right!”. So calm down and stop being disrespectful, aggression is not belonging to here!

[@thefridgeman]

@@Jagman5 TC is not part of the ESP and is NOT required by law. Please inform yourself before posting stupid things. You might confuse it with the ABS. Also, you have replied to a 6 years old statement, my statement and with a non true fact (TC required by law). So yeah, I replied. How about inform yourself in the matter and then start debates with strangers on the internet?!

[@Jagman5]

@@thefridgeman I am automotive engineer and working for a big OEM. TC and ABS is part of an ESP system! That’s a fact. And when an ESP is required by law, an ABS abs TC is included as well! Again, stop being offensive and aggressive!

[@sangxu5391]

996 is my all time favorite 911 in terms of look

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

Sang Xü you blind

[@pablos3563]

@Bob Harris headlights is the best part of 996

[@MoskusMoskiferus1611]

Same Man

[@simmo2745]

There is a good reason why they stopped the design with the lights 15 years ago to never bring them back…

[@phatballz8988]

The 996.2 headlights are okay. The 996.1 headlights are great.

[@porker964c2]

996GT3RS gets better looking with every passing year.

[@MihaBevcStraxer]

This guy is awesome. I could listen all day :D

[@ButterNutter37]

Likewise. I'd enjoy having a beer with him, I'm sure he has some great stories to share.

[@terrydixon6644]

Sean Leal #Bromance

[@albertkelly7129]

***** Spot on, so refreshing to come across such a knowledgable well spoken passionate purist who relates with a complete lack of bs.

[@jp360skyline]

***** Agreed. His personality and opinions come through, but not a hint of arrogance. Great technical insight and personal driver opinion on three very special cars..

[@chrisgregson3626]

That 996 is ageing very well. I know it's not considered the most desirable generation by many, but that's the one I'd have (in my dreams).

[@robbo1911]

+Chris Greyson me to, its kind of iconic

[@MrJz97ss]

Love the 996 GT3

[@tobimcmuffin876]

I think the gt3 is the best car ever made, the 3.8 looks so cool! But I also like the design of the 996! The 3.8 with that massiv wing looks just crazy:D If i would be able to buy one i would pick the 996 GT3 RS, because its very light and limited. But the 4.0 would also be a great alternative! :D

[@jp360skyline]

What a great video. Good presenter, with some personality, opinion and technical feedback communicated well, valuable explanation of three very niche but very special Porsche models. Looking forward to watching more!

[@fkporsche1]

You've made an absolutely right comments about the RS engine compartment. "Plain and simple" it's the German way. And I like the way it perform. Solid built.

[@ThePandaBeat]

This is the type of information that I like to get from car videos. Excellent.

[@Ozravens]

He nailed it

[@por911t4]

Thoroughly enjoyed the video - straight talking no nonsense - a great report on the GT3RS range ...... well done chap !

[@porschecarrera3684]

I'm so looking forward to the 991 GT3 RS. I think it's gonna be a blast on any road.

[@shmoofgang]

Now wait till the 992😈

[@ButterNutter37]

This was a very well put together piece. The explanation of the 3 cars was so vivid and detailed. Superb video gents! I'd love to have a track day with that guy, he seems like an awesome character! Subscribed!

[@dstewusa7054]

Great video. No BS or cliche stuff that you often get from motoring journos- just a straightforward and detailed analysis. Tks

[@boohooo6381]

That was a really good 'no bullshit' review.. Enjoyable

[@FelixAretz]

You like the color-touch-infotainment-navigation-system on the 997 Mk2 but think an RS shouldn't have a traction control? Seriously? Also, you say the Mk2 has 2 buttons for traction control and stability control, while the button in the Mk1 does both of them the same time. That's just wrong. The 997 Mk1 doesn't have a stability control, only TC. And the folding seats in the Mk2 are just great. On the one hand, Porsche must use seats with airbags (due to legal reasons). On the other hand, there is plenty of space behind the seats. Even if the car is fitted with a rollcage, you can put 2 helmets and 2 bags there. The door openers in the Mk2 aren't only there for weight reasons but for usability. They look cool, bring a touch of 964 RS to the car, and they are easier to use in the car when you are fixed in the harness.

[@HandsomeAlex25]

Great great video. I have been reading a bunch about the 997.2 GT3 RS, ever since I sat in one, and absolutely loved the sensation even in the showroom. And now I'm wondering which GT3 is the best, and I found your contrary-to-convention analysis greatly enlightening. Thank you for the video!

[@scd]

HandsomeAlex25 Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed the video!! Check back soon

[@neilkayton]

I like watching videos when someone knows what they're talking about. awesome stuff

[@jackal2513]

996RS the greatest water cooled porsche ever made, bar the CGT

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

Jackalsforge 996 are trash

[@thof8287]

@@ArtVandelayOfficial you constantly comment against the 996! If you knew fuck all about tracking or actually pushing a car you'd know how good the 996GT3 is. Instead You sound like a whinny little bitch!

[@gmako74]

I love my 996 Gt3! She may not have hips but she got lots of loving to give.

[@TheGoodDogTraining]

gmako74 haha...

[@steveneedham13]

The "Mezger" engine isn't just used in the GT3s it's in all Turbo and GT2 models, in fact the only 996/997 it's not in is the Carrera range.

[@scd]

Thanks Steve. Think he was referring to it compared to the earlier air cooled cars

[@desertwindauh]

By far the best, most informative video available on these three amazing cars. Thank you.

[@staticfitment9489]

One of the best track weapon reviewer, no nonsense please feature him in more track car reviews 👍🏻

[@TheRoggan123]

Great review! I did put on 245's fronts on my 997.1 GT3 and it does make a big difference, as does more camber (aprox -3 front and -2 rear) and a GT2 / 997 GT3 .2 rear swaybar (the stock one is to soft in relation to the front) which creates understeer during turn-in.

[@TheGoodDogTraining]

TheRoggan123 hey! I’m just about to pick up a .1RS, and was wondering if your adjustments were strictly for track performance or for general all-around performance? And did you need to do anything special to for those wider fronts? Thanks!!

[@TheRoggan123]

@@TheGoodDogTraining I sold the car a few years ago now, I remember that I did have a very extreme setup for a short while which was really nervous on the road and tracked like crazy on uneven roads, worked fine on the track. Took the front camber down a bit and it made a huge impact on road stability but didnt notice any negative impact on the track. Unfortunately I don't remember if it was the -3 that was bad or if it was even more. The 245s fit without any issues and mine was a narrow body regular GT3 so you should have even less of an issue on an RS. The 997 GT3 is a great car, you will love it for sure!

[@TheGoodDogTraining]

TheRoggan123 hey! Thanks so much for the info. I’ll have to see if the guys from Sharkwerks can get me all set up. I only track a few times a year. Mostly canyons and daily. (RS daily! Lol) Great news about the front tires. Really appreciate the info and time!

[@etelfer]

Good video mate - Great to hear your thoughts on the different generations. Will be sure to keep an eye out for future videos.

[@Euphorica]

the 996tt and gt2 have hips! great video

[@laxfich_gecko]

wow, this was the best porsche video I've ever seen. thank you so much for making it. the presenter is a very likeable guy, he did really well.

[@Ernestom5]

Awesome footage! 17 dislikers simply have no clou what a GT3 is...

[@touringteg]

Nice comparison. Very cool that the 996 GT3 RS was the most fun. At the end of the day that is most important. Enjoying the drive.

[@Inazuma68]

Bought a 996 GT3 Clubsport recently. Wonderful car. But why does everybody put music to the driving session? How stupid. We want to hear the engine. Please change the next time

[@PeterPorsche1]

the black gt3 rs looks absolutely amazing !!! What a beautiful car ! What a amazing video. Great ! Subscribed !

[@xavierjones4574]

lmafo, this guy should consult for porsche, he's spot on with his critiques

[@NeilMagill]

Loved the video chaps, great job. Great to hear a good honest opinion on cars. Keep up the good work!

[@motondska]

996 GT3 RS is a narrow body, and as others have said, the 996 turbos also got a Mezger motor. Otherwise excellent video, especially covering tires, suspension and setting up a track car.

[@bobohara3974]

Nice video. Trying to understand how to improve front end grip on track on my 997.2 C2S. This helped.

[@MikeKleinsteuber]

Nice video. No waffle and good explanation. Keep up the good work

[@scd]

+Mike Kleinsteuber stay tuned for a 993 cup car edit we filmed yesterday - that will be live later this week

[@MikeKleinsteuber]

+TheSUPERCARDRIVER Great. I have a 996 which I've nearly converted to a GT3

[@connoisseurofcannabiscarsp3755]

+TheSUPERCARDRIVER Hey guys!! I would love a bit of opinion!! I have 2 2008 GT3 RSs. both of course white/black trim 6 speed manuals of course. as you know the Gt3rs 08 U.S. models are bring over twice the price as it was new! ive never owned ANYTHING auto or paddle shift. I buy what i love to drive. i do REALLY think the 2016 GT3 RS is a top notch looking vehicle but whats holding me nack is the ZERO option with the transmission. all flappy bs. no manuals for years now but the purple GT3 RS with the 4.0 is a car that should last. like i said i have 2 08s one has 25,000 miles and the other has only 1600. Any opinion would be much respected. Actually beyond belief. this car wont see track time but im a very agresive driver. I have a 90 Skyline GTR with over 650hp i drive daily as well a 97 NSX. I also have the first manual boxed Ferrari California that the states ever hot and i think there are only 4 all together bringing over $400,000 US. . It gets driven good and proper but as I said i have my daily drivers among a few other cars ive collected. just any honest opinions would be most awesome!! . im just a 40 year pld single guy with no kids to bother with. just a cool girlfriend that knows how i love my cars. I still have my first car. Hell i have all my cars. i never bought junk and no its not family money. i grew up poor. my mum was killed when i was 15 and my only family is the greatest person on earth..My pop. i bought him a 458 a few years ago when i sold my first company and i picked out every detail i knew he would like. He had no idea. He turned wrenches for the same company for over 40 years and has trouble driving a manual so thats how we ended up with the f1 clutch. Cheers guys and again thank you! Colin

[@vivalaphill]

finally a guy knowing that his neck is important #Neckbrace

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

Love the video, I actually like the 996 looks but Gen 2 997 GT3 (non RS) for me...

[@qikqbn77]

Great video, lots of good information and insight. I trust your judgement and liked how you rated and gave points to each car for both road and track. keep up the great work and vids!

[@aviationlba747]

The 997 is my favourite 911 generation! It’s such a beautiful car, and the 997 GT2/GT3 cars will only continue to rise in value. Btw, I love the picture at 22:54 with all the cars, and the Hawker Siddeley Nimrod in the background!

[@ahlapski]

@TheSUPERCARDRIVER Can't believe how I miss this channel all this time I've been watching KZbin. Cracking video, keep up the good work.

[@MrYoumitube]

I like how the current generations have options to change settings. Not one setting suits all, hence you can setup change. Look at a f1 car, there are probably 40 different options you can change to have the perfect setup to how "you" like for the track. Nice video, very well explained. Thanks

[@normsallitt2753]

Correction: the same Metzger engine was not only in the GT3 and GT3 RS... it was also used in all 996/997.1 Turbo's.

[@charliegrech5598]

Really well presented by a person with very good knowledge on the subject. The presentation came across as being based on facts without too much subjectivity. Thank you it was a pleasure watching.

[@fkporsche1]

Great deal of your thoughts and comments. As I have the 2011 GT3RS, never driven a earlier models. I had a 1999 996 carreraS and 2007 carreraS. They were a bit too soft for my taste. Now, the 997 RS does the job for me. Thanks for sharing.. Great comparison.

[@scd]

***** Thanks for your feedback on the video, glad you have found the information provided relevant, and you can clearly relate to it. Enjoy the RS!

[@pjay3028]

Interesting! You do realise that widening front track actually means that the proportion of total cornering weight transfer that takes place across the front axle is increased, which therefore increases understeer! The actual reason modern 911s with a wider front track understeer less is because Porsche changed the spring/antiroll bar rates and geometry to reduce the understeer.

[@bikemike1118]

Good explanation…and this exact Mezger engine was not only a racing engine it was also better than a regular Carrera engine because it didn’t have the oil leaking issues between engine and gear box some of the regular engines had (have??). Minor insights from a former German Porsche salesman 😎. Keep up the good work ✌🏼

[@gwynn1104]

I found this series extremely informative @thesupercardriver. Thanks! Would like to see an update with the 997 cars someday.

[@porker964c2]

The Metzger engine crankcase is derived from the 993/964 unit, which in turn is derived from the earlier aircooled flat sixes.

[@dair919]

I think it's time you guys done another comparison vid. It would definitely receive a thumbs up from me!

[@scd]

Ok will do! Thanks for watching

[@arthurveldhoen3932]

More insight here in these cars than all the yelling from a certain Chris Harris in a lifetime. Splendid work!

[@shannonlevett]

Excellent vid and comments. Such a shame it wasn't dry.

[@PS91195]

Awesome, please give us more of this!

[@Mike981S]

Great comparison. I love track driving in the rain :)

[@petkokrushev3840]

Doesn't matter how many reviews you watch, everyone praises the 996 GT3/RS

[@Chris-pe9lj]

This is true. Appreciating the 996 gt3 more as time goes.

[@JohnDoe-wy1yd]

What an incredibly thorough video, bravo sir.

[@Aaroncmrust]

So what kind of person would get a RS over the normal GT3? I see on porsche's website the GT3 is 130k, 475 horsepower 0-60 in 3.3 seconds versus the RS at 175k, 500 horsepower 0-60 in 3.1 seconds. is the normal GT3 for someone who wants to daily drive it?...i dont image people will see very many RS's driving around downtown. what an amazing track car

[@shaft9000]

For track-only you buy a RSR. GT3 RS gets you closer to the RSR than the regular GT3 and is still street-legal.

[@markbowles8161]

Brilliant overview really well explained by a very well informed bloke! Well done.

[@DanielTojcic]

Beautifully shot, documented, and very enjoyable to watch! Earned a sub (now I'm off to see what other content you have! Hopefully more of the same)

[@scd]

Daniel Tojcic Thanks for your message, glad you enjoyed the video. There are more to watch and plenty more to follow.

[@ButterNutter37]

I'm off to do the same! I'm extremely impressed with this piece, it's straight up porn for enthusiasts!!

[@shaft9000]

More than any other production car porsche has made, the 996 GT3 has that "UFO" quality to it... It reminds me some of the earliest Porsche prototype bodies from the 40s and 50s.

[@ferengoid]

Fascinating review of some truly wonderful track cars. Thanks!

[@neo2061]

Nice sound tracks... music, exhausts, engines

[@fkporsche1]

Great presentation video! Lovin it. Even I owned a 997.2 gt3RS, your presentation has enhanced my deeper knowledge. Thanks a lot. 🇺🇸👍🏻👍🏻

[@scd]

Thanks for watching Frank!

[@therenaissanceman2426]

Awesome video would love to see a comparison with these and the 991.1 and 991.2

[@SteveC-Shaman]

So in summary, the car has become more track-oriented and hardcore as time progressed. I really love my Turbo S because it's good at everything, though it's a bit noisy inside.

[@pacovl46]

Great video! I have only one question, how is it okay to have satellite navigation in the 997.2, but not the control buttons for traction control etc.? In my book it's either both or none. Personally I think it's great to have the control buttons because they might come in handy sometimes, but I can also see where you're coming from on this.

[@SteaM992]

great video.Most people cry because the manual gearbox is gone with the new gt3.What's you're opinion?

[@darrenwaller2067]

Great video. Please can you re-do and add the 991GT3RS to the equation.

[@hovnojede010101]

Enjoyed the vid and your accent haha :) I love the 911 RS's and found your video very helpful

[@tutu2368]

Excellent review !! 👍👍

[@growrich119]

beeing a 997 wide body owner - I still like the 996 GT3 very much

[@MikeyFFA500]

Great vids but why would you put music over the sound of the engine?

[@eskamobob8662]

"Traction control is bullshit" "So when we turned off traction control we spun a bunch"

[@conorwainer9272]

Fantastic vid, great comparisons and well qualified opinions (not stating as facts). Just a thought for the 997.1, why not remove the spacers and place larger tyres and wheels on the front? If they're 10mm spacers isn't that the same maths? Idk just curious.

[@antoniodias8088]

Absolutely perfect explanation. Lovely

[@mcmcx5514]

Absolutely fantastic video. To the point. Could you do a similar video comparing 996 GT2 to 997 GT2?

[@scootertxdfw]

Well done!

[@sadicksaert5972]

Well presented to the point thanks keep it up!!!

[@stevegordon9179]

Can you do a video of the 991 GT3RS? Im really curious of your opinion

[@tharunraj9974]

The Race starts in 13:43

[@supercooled]

That outro shot: Jay Leno's collection.

[@HugoElders]

Magnificent guy and video overall

[@StereoSoundAgent]

kind of funny serious stock porsche sports cars needs a little extra attached fender just to fit 245s when you can run 275s on a stock 01 M3 in the front with no problems at all. but wow is this guy knowledgeable!!

[@nimara688]

Fantastic video!

[@laxfich_gecko]

I've got a question for all you cracks: are these cars actually equipped with a handbrake? I mean getting rid of it would save weight and you wouldn't use it on a racetrack anyways.

[@michalgondolewski8709]

You say that the 996 GT3 RS is “based on the wider body of the Carrera 4…”. That’s not correct. The 996 Carrera 4 was not a wide body car and the 996 GT3 RS is widely known as the last narrow body RS.

[@backyardliberty6028]

awesome video...very detail....cannot wait for another review..gt3 2015 ?

[@brbelding]

I'm a little late to the party, but to help correct the lack of front grip in the Gen 1 car, you should apply the spacers to the rear wheels instead of the fronts. Reason being that spacing the front without adjusting the rear will effectively make the front axle's roll stiffness greater, similar to installing a larger bar there. Instead you should do this to the rear axle, or reduce the trackwidth at the front to allow it better grip. Cheers.

[@porschecollector727]

From experience or in theory?

[@darrylfoster1038]

Great video. Your knowledge and opinions come across really well. Be good to see you test the 997.2 GT3 against the 997.1 GT3. Also whether for the comparable price - would you take a GT4 over a 997.1 or 997.2 GT3

[@000GunterGabriel000]

Great vid! Now repeat plz on dry conditions. :)

[@ilandman4evr]

Great job!

[@kentbaregg5985]

Very interesting test, thanks! I have a 996 Gt3 club sport MKII. Would be nice to know what you think about my car..

[@nickmavromates2517]

Where would you rate the non RS 996 gt3 compared to the RS model? Might be looking to get one in the next couple years

[@aproductofboredom]

Thank you very much.

[@bernardomerlini372]

Great review!

[@redfactionELITE]

This guy is so opinionated I love it. Thank you for the video 👍