Training vs. Exercise | Rich Roll Podcast

Chris Hauth is a 2x Olympian, former professional triathlete, Ironman champion, Age Group Ironman World Champion, accomplished ultra-runner and one of the world’s most respected endurance and ultra-endurance coaches.
This Coach's Corner edition of the #RRP is a conversation & audience Q&A about the athlete mindset; the difference between exercising and training; and the most important factors crucial for performance in sport & life.
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[@jeristowell2635]

I so enjoyed this podcast! I've been a runner for 20 years. As I approach 60 yrs. I been having issues with osteoarthritis in the knees the past few years. This past year running has taken a back seat. Strength training and zone 2 training has been my main focus. I've noticed a huge difference in just a years time.

[@ichbindoofhihi1]

53:15 Exercise vs Training

[@GS-zc4sk]

Hahhaha Tnx

[@mitchwhitham7861]

This is brilliant. Love the simple philosophy that is broken down, using our body to live our potential in connection with ourselves and nature, and that poem really hit home. Thanks both Chris and Rich.

[@EastofSublime]

40:50 If you came here for ZONE 2! (low HR training information)

[@balwc147]

thanks

[@Quniverse]

Your channel has become one of my favorites.

[@Grace8381]

Yes.

[@scottlangdon1469]

🙌🙌🙌

[@piscessun1253]

Me too 😊

[@maurobenvenuti725]

The First part when you read is awesome!!! I'm 46 and is exactly what i need now...work and many other things sterelized my human potential. Recover my body and my time is my first priority now. Many many thanks.

[@cerikane]

The both of you are gifts - I really like gifts.Thanks both!

[@johnevans6748]

I am crying. Thank you. Great talk.

[@yumyumbaboon]

What a brilliant podcast.The text is really what I feel when I am out in nature, thank you for giving us all 5 minutes of connection. I stretch after running or mountain biking yogaexercises and it feels so good; Tibetan rites in the morning as soon as awake

[@AltodaMontanha]

You are my two favourite podcasters... warm thank you, guys!

[@joaofernandes5217]

That essay... beautiful!

[@Lumpydog]

I just watched the replay of this podcast. It was a great one. Just what I needed. Thanks for all the great insight.

[@ronja4567]

i love how so much of this you could say about art too

[@NicoloMassa]

AMAZING piece of content Rich!! Thank you for sharing this with us! 🌱😍

[@StephenMarkTurner]

I appreciate the discussion on stretching, thanks!

[@Meadows100]

Such a great podcast! Really spoke to me a marathon runner who's made ton of mistakes over the years with my fair share of ups and downs. Really interesting to hear about all the mental and mindsets aspects you were talking about too, very profound and true when it comes to endurance sports. Totally subscrihing to Chris' podcast to geek out on everything about endurance sports :D

[@Mookiethedog]

Loved the Zone 2 discussion in particular but also overall a great podcast

[@bobbywilkinson90]

I really loved what he wrote. It was so powerful, and it couldn't have come at a better time for me. Awesome! He should most definitely publish it!

[@Searotonine]

His holiness is back ... thanks guys !

[@stefaniew9411]

In the beginning I felt a bit stupid listening to you both super athletes since I just started preparing for my first 10k. BUT you made this for everyone, so inspiring on every level. Thank you!

[@sebastiankoch2242]

Exactly what I was thinking today! Hope you are doing great and that you're still on it. 💪

[@coachsandym]

Really enjoyed this.

[@wenlongdu241]

This episode is the best talk about training I have ever listened.

[@lindaw140]

I really like the meaning reading! Time with nature is essential!!!

[@teaandrijic6775]

Despite the fact that I am not kind of “sport spirit person” this talk is amazing and inspirational on so many level. Thank You Rich. Big fan of Your podcast. Love.

[@georgesakkas]

Awesome Rich! Really enjoyed it. You should bring a video crew with you to Ultraman and document Chris's journey.

[@xinbaonuzi6451]

Great interview, a strength training and stretch of my mind muscle, thank u!

[@enideak7546]

Just what I needed now that I'm back to training and looking for ways to improve it 😁

[@plasticseas]

Also super relevant to freediving. Thank you!

[@drewa1999]

Another epic session Rich! Well done fellas! Thank You!!

[@hermatoma]

Thank you very much both of you for this conversation and hints, it is very beneficial and inspiring, especially for me as a beginner... with respect, Tom

[@johns5969]

Your podcast is outstanding

[@grahamhayden8969]

I like the new quality/style and intro!

[@PrashanSubasinghe]

That was kickass start! Awesome editing!

[@rafaelverzoni9001]

Priceless training knowledge long term. Thank you

[@giulianoyula]

thanks for teaching me, this video filmed 2 years ago its what i´m needing now.

[@mctcurious]

Rich, thank you for your podcast and for reading Chris' essay. I was moved, too, and it articulated beautifully an element I realize I yearn for in my own life. Please do publish it, Chris, so I can refer to it again and share it!

[@kylebaker8502]

Really enjoyed the essay as well. Thank you for sharing!!

[@mas2475]

Rich, one of the podcasts episodes that I enjoyed even a bit more than the others. Very appealing to me and a great essay from Chris about "Meaning". Please do publish it somewhere on your page of RRP 377 or over here so I can read it again in the future or point someone to it when I'm having difficulty trying to explain what Ultra endurance / triathlon /athleticism means to me and why I'm so passionate about it. Thanks for a great one!

[@kivosanli5273]

what a gem! thank you

[@boriskezic4732]

Loved this episode!

[@muukadventures3629]

Good stuff. And with the way the world is at the moment. Endurance events, outdoors and the sense of purpose adventure gives us is all more important and therefore to keep inspiring

[@tomasazevedo1979]

What an awesome talk. Wow..

[@jenniekaminski7913]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you, for going over zone 2 training in depth! I have been doing the 80/20 rule with my runs since March & I love it! For the first time ever I am running injury free & my races are slowly getting faster! It is such a mental game for me. Thank you for diving into the reasons why the zone 2 training & slow "easy days" are so important!

[@mizzounyc]

There is something very soothing(his voice) and reassuring about Chris that reminds me of Mr. Rogers. Give the man a sweater for these talks. Lol.

[@bentimberfalling]

Love you Rich

[@duanefrench3500]

Nice to know that the glory comes through zone 2 and comforting.

[@JoeSirdevan]

Excellent excellent.

[@losusmil]

That poem was on point!

[@salimbenzaghou2827]

Awesome, thank a lot.

[@wmp3346]

That was real - thanks Mr Roll

[@RunforestTV]

Great job Rich!

[@stuartmcgill5065]

Absolutely agree with Chris on this stuff. I MUST get outside and push myself on a regular basis: No gym, or indoor-trainer can replace getting out on the open road, or mountain track, for me! I too believe that it's part of us! We are part of nature! Too many, sadly, feel separate from nature: It's somewhere they 'go'. Until more realise that we, as a species, are part of everything; the world/ environment/ peoples' health, will continue to decline.... Great Podcast, Rich. Your book 'Finding Ultra' which I first read several years back, put me on the road to a plant-based lifestyle. After a few 'false starts' I'm finally there and feel awesome! Thanks :-)

[@lindaw140]

I really like the meaning reading!

[@hfazilat]

first 4 min of the video, the two are geeking about ultra sport events.. while i am starting to adapt to my 5km run.. so jealous but yet driven to be at their place one day... hopefully soon.

[@tonydavies-foo646]

I would love to see you two guys do the same podcast but geared for older individuals ! I am 58 years old and every time I try to increase intensity I always end up with problems and niggles ! This was fantastic all the same Great Work well done Chris and Rich.

[@elevendysevensclub]

Rich Roll is in his 50’s :)

[@duncanblack1307]

Another awesome RRP

[@web3036]

I don't even think I blinked for the entire podcast....best 1 1/2 hours I've spent sitting in a chair ever....thank you....

[@suwannidudan8956]

How amazing is this podcast! I listened to it three times already 😍

[@Beinhartwie1chopper]

Get off the phone and start running

[@CoyoteCanyon72]

awesome

[@squeaksbuffeteria564]

Lols, cool intro!!!

[@karenelizabethyoga9602]

Was the opening monologue ever published? If so where?

[@TheAndreMD]

Oh man, I missed it so much! Thanks

[@bmp713]

Something as counter-intuitive as "going slower to get faster" needs a very clear explanation for how it actually works physiologically to convince most people. I still can't get definitive answers regarding how to maximize the size of the heart and stroke volume, which are the most powerful aerobic adaptations. What heart rate zone and duration of workout makes the heart the largest and able to pump the most blood? 60-70% max HR,, 70-80% or Threshold? And for how long?

[@SolaScriptura49]

I really enjoy your talks Mr. Roll, you always have very insightful questions and excellent guests! With regard to this talk, I am trying to get more clarification on the zone 2 calibration (as it is the first time I have heard about it): So its a 5 mile repeat run with 1 minute rest in between each mile at 90-95% effort. Record HR and Pace during each rest and then average them up at the end. Now at this point when we get the average of HR (and pace, as a point of reference for later runs), how do we determine the zones and gray areas based on these averages? Say I had a 195 HR average for each mile? Chris Hauth mentioned something about 30 to 40 beats below threshold (average) for zone 2? Is there a way to estimate the lower portion (as well as the upper and lower gray zones) of zone 2?

[@ShaneHarveyMusic]

2 beautiful guys just shooting the shit. Btw golden coloured. So much great knowledge. Thanks guys!

[@THERE4fabrications]

Rich and Chris, when you speak of heart rate zones, are the number of zones a set standard? My Garmin Forerunner 935 uses five heart rate zones.

[@arjanpetersen]

Sean McGrath no... they are specific to you

[@GS-zc4sk]

The Day or Two of training you "missed" could be exactly what you need.

[@brandonmusgrove6294]

Did anybody stop to think what kind of athlete Chris is; if Rich Roll is holding him back? I mean come on, Rich Roll is WAY up there on the ability level.

[@bitelshh]

💪🏿

[@investireocaminho33]

👏

[@nathanbay6783]

Super informative, Thanks. Now I'm speculating this damed lower leg and feet pain is from running in the "grey zone" a lot so my ligaments and joints weren't properly conditioned, and the cold stretching I've been doing to help them is probably causing micro tears..alas

[@shiv_ring]

Do you recommend a specific video of yours for the topic of shutting your mind during running? I struggle with a spastic mind that drags me down with negativity during my runs.

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

01:10:53 running on pavement is a hell of a nature.

[@shaktidevii]

🙏🏽💞🙏🏽

[@feliciahs9689]

Please bring Caroline!!

[@MrXrisd01]

Lol zone 2!

[@grahamhayden8969]

How old is Chris?

[@codynewlon93]

Chris sounds like Toby from the office

[@cayesh1234]

You're quite similar!

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

01:01:25 you could prevent that. and yes it doesn't mean it is calf... but it doesn't matter you can't afford to check on it because you are poor.

[@Beinhartwie1chopper]

My formula is " 90% RED BULL AND 10% Sleep"

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

58:50 That's not entirely true.

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

01:15:43 Yeah. You are going to win. Everybody is a winner and only 99% are poor.

[@vegrunner6688]

Loved the interview....but, wow, he sounds like Willem Dafoe.

[@yumyumbaboon]

Hey guys I am not a long endurance runner swimmer or cyclist but I love going running in nature or mountain biking in nature, there is something addictive, challenging, connecting with inner self and within, just love the feeling of being one with the trees the birds with the flower of life I suppose. I only run one hour lunchtime during the week and a couple of hours once at the weekend but it gives me the buzz. Mountain biking when you re going up that hill that you could not before, getting stung by horse flies, reaping your skin on brambles, sweat running in your eyes and stinging, I think this could be a part of endurance although I am nowhere at your levels guys. Anyway love your vids, I have been on a mainly raw plant based diet for 1.5 years, growing loads in the garden, check it out www.sens-en-eveil.fr go to vegetable garden. Keep cool thank you for your vids the more I watch the more I feel like going out there challenging the 5 senses within the elements. Love and light. Patricia from South West France.

[@alfie1696]

right can someone help me out here 0:13 there's a face and I can't put my finger on her name

[@MB-hz7wm]

“Not getting caught up in the gear...” Just go.

[@Beinhartwie1chopper]

If you train 8 hours a week or less you might as well go full gas. 80% Zone 2 is for the 15, 20, 30 hour people.

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

52:00 Good bye job. You simply CAN'T DO IT.

[@13WhiteFang37]

Is it just me or does Chris look like Matthew McConaughey?

[@qrockz007]

i thought a lower heartrate while training is a sign of health

[@nealm6764]

He is talking about lower compared to what it normally is at your perceived effort level. Where your HR is not getting up to where it should be for your effort. It is especially noticeable during HIIT, where you are busting your ass and you cannot reach your HR target (that you normally have no problem hitting) no matter what. I take a day or 2 off when that happens.

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

01:11:53 It is unnatural to work in a cubicle but We live in a pretend society and everything is ok!

[@katesmitt9222]

ОЛЕГ Захаров папина квартира фотограф так говорит мой Facebook

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

01:01:55 This is the roids you are looking for...

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

57:50 Be naive wave like you suppose to be... support the pro's support the investors. Support +10:1 ROI. That's your job because you are poor.

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

53:19 it is the same like it is your fault you are poor, right?

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

01:04:58 This is the roids you are looking for...

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

45:45 Just overtrain yourself and you will have no problem of staying at zone 2. That's the cheapest way to do. Best for poor people. Poor people are expandable anyway.

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

01:12:45 how many poor people can do Kona?

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

01:27:50 Especially poor people. They are the best kind of useful athletes supporting investors & co scam business.

[@jk_atlhletics5865]

Zone 2 is just jogging... Its hilarious the fancy terminology people give things to make others think they’re experts.. BTW Chris Hauth charges $400 month and requires a 6 month minimum commitment if you want him as you “coach” LOL