Trans Conservatives vs Trans Liberals | Middle Ground

[@jubilee]

Unreleased prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/MGpatreon Schools should include trans conversation in Sex Ed -> Agree or Disagree?

[@Relcilisity_Official]

Ok

[@cantwin8105]

Well I think we all know how that convo went lol

[@zacharythomas8617]

Weak representation, shame on you.

[@luisfilipe2023]

I don’t even think sex Ed should be a thing

[@sirskorge]

Over my dead body.

[@weebofakind2516]

As a black person I can say that blossom isn’t treated bad bc of her race or bc she’s trans. ITS YOUR PERSONALITY GURL😂

[@georginacook1850]

She’s so entitled and is a bully

[@snakeladytarot]

So true. U can tell who became trans and who is trans... Blossom just a play ground bully with boobs. U would rather bully women out our safe spaces than fight your own battles in ur own bathroom.

[@MsRahfe]

wasn't she already in the last video and a lot of comments found her to be quite annoying? :X why was she invited again?

[@nashocheese]

I mean... at 1:19:40 when she's straight up ignoring the entire point of the issue to talk about Black people - and that people need to understand that's where she's coming from... that wasn't the issue being talked about, so why self insert so heavily into it...? Hyprocrisy, rudeness, and ignorance is a pretty darn bad cocktail of personality traits.

[@luluc6867]

FACTS 🤣😂

[@poibabexeletricfairyjewelry]

Blossom thinks people treat her badly because of her skin color, honey it’s YOU. It’s your personality.

[@herstudies5488]

THIS comment !

[@erinsmith2713]

I'm a black women no trans and it is her personality not her race

[@pistachexiaohua6705]

You said it ! Blossom was insufferable!

[@kamibooable]

i’m a black woman and i 100% agree.

[@wehaventevenmet]

THIIIIIIIS

[@hannahloumen2241]

Rule number one: If you want to be respected, show respect to other people.

[@dolfincetekege6108]

It is not possible.

[@seekerandthinker]

The problem is, both Blossom and Alexander's definition of respect is messed up, it doesn't align with reality, and when we speak facts, it comes out as rude and disrespectful, but fact should be spoken openly. Liberals are re-inventing and re-define words to make it meaningless. What is a woman anyway? Anyone who identify as a woman? Ah yes the floor is made of floor

[@schiffer2386]

Some people don't show you respect even when you respect them. If they don't respect you, don't show respect back

[@frickfrack7075]

​@@schiffer2386that was OPs point...

[@schiffer2386]

@@frickfrack7075 not really cause that doesn't always work

[@dCgJ123]

Please don't bring Blossom back. She makes this entire process so difficult to listen to. So disrespectful and constantly interrupting.

[@My2Cents1]

But, but, but… it’s her EXPERIENCE! Her EXPER-IENCE! Don’t try to take away her EXPER-EE-INCE!

[@jeremyharris4107]

​@My2Cents1 but... but... but... we aren't here for one person's experience

[@N8Skii]

gosh this didn’t age well. Unfortunately shes back in jubilee’s recent Democrat vs republican video

[@Emma-ju7rr]

but shes a black trans woman!!! you cant interrupt her when shes speaking

[@femmefemi]

You are just a bully then.

[@liaf525]

Awh… I cried at “I choose to use the men’s room to protect women.” The sadness in her voice when she says she knows she doesn’t pass. Protect her at all costs.

[@NotAdultingToday]

To me jessica does pass. Sarah too! There are women who look like that. The non binary dude I absolutely do not want in the women's bathroom. Home is a cross dresser plain and simple.

[@radubradu]

*him

[@Seevawonderloaf]

She may not pass but bc her attitude gives me ‘this is a woman’ vibes!! And i generally wouldn’t mind sharing a space with someone who is considerate of her bio female counterparts. THESE are the people i went to protests to support

[@Seevawonderloaf]

@@radubraduplease don’t

[@fritziearago9518]

If the ''non-binary'' one enter the restroom with me with my little niece here in my hometown , i will definitely walk out. I will be really rude and confront him

[@dararupert7199]

The fact they wouldn't let Sara speak for so long during the military discussion was unacceptable. She had the actual experience.

[@CassieBear1989]

I liked how Blair stopped and said that Sara should've talked first about the military debate bc of her experience in the military

[@DocBree13]

I agree!

[@susanna8612]

She is also smart

[@brians1793]

That's probably why they didn't want her to speak on it.

[@beatriceyup8541]

So frustrating that they won't let her speak. Someone who was in the military.

[@boop99]

"Do not interrupt a black trans woman when she is speaking" Says the person who interrupted everyone else and was always condescending

[@gunther3274]

Talking about privilege 🙄

[@en2p187]

Also guys check her history, cnn city hall black transwoman coach blossom interrupts mom and body checks her son in passionate intense speech- that's the title I ain't making it up

[@claff4573]

Well ironically her and blaire were speaking for years 💀. She was making sense in the very beginning then spiraled.

[@Fortheloveoforthodoxing]

The entitlement is INSANE

[@boop99]

I found the video under the title "Transgender woman makes passionate point at CNN Equality Town Hall." Blossom was certainly annoying but I didn't see anybody body check the kid in the video@@en2p187

[@aurorarain1265]

Well said: “If you’re a decent person, you should do what causes the least amount of problem for those around you.”

[@tylerv.g.6268]

You don't think a trans woman would cause issues or have issues for themselves if they went into a male restroom? It's a lose-lose situation

[@aurorarain1265]

@@tylerv.g.6268 it’s a personal problem

[@tylerv.g.6268]

@@aurorarain1265 yeah. so is being transphobic.

[@My2Cents1]

There is only one thing for it, and that is a unisex bathroom option.

[@aurorarain1265]

@@tylerv.g.6268 transphobia has nothing to do with having to take care of your personal hygiene. If you’re in transition, be prepared for what issues you most likely will face. If you’re a decent person, do what you need to do that causes the least amount of problems for those around you.

[@DaVinci-wt6dp]

As a liberal, this was definitely embarrassing for the trans liberals. Ya'll literally said nothing persuasive, it was all just subjective, personal arguments or just straight up incoherent.

[@Avo_o]

Sameee. It was more personal attacks than actual personal stories.

[@meg_khaaan2743]

It would have been waaay more embarrassing if they hadn’t edited out much of the threats and screaming.

[@Princessanafpd]

Yesssss, especially the on in black with glasses that looked down at all times lol every time he spoke in that raspy voice he tried to sound smart but all those big words meant nothing together 😅

[@AmericansRejectLiberalism]

But this is how they’ve always been lol this is why most normal people despise the liberal LGBTQ movement. They don’t have a problem with conservative trans people like Blair white though.

[@fartmnms]

​@@PrincessanafpdShane I think is his name, true but I do think he has a point. Top surgery for 16+ year olds should be ok. I mean you can learn to drive at 16 so why not be able to remove your breast if you believe it will damage your body. There are plenty of other ways to feed a baby were they to have a child

[@ijustwannabehappier-v4973]

As a black person im so embarrassed by Blossom bringing up the race card out of nowhere, and accusing everyone of white privilege.

[@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998]

Don’t be embarrassed. Just because one black person does something does not mean it represents us all. Blossom is not my representative nor are they yours. We as individuals represent ourselves

[@halo218813]

@@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998 so very well said ❤

[@cashcorleone2469]

I was embarrassed the 1st 5 times... after that I was just annoyed 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@moldbrain660]

She really is making her community’s look like crap

[@joshcagle2395]

You shouldn't be embarrassed. Blossom doesn't speak for you or all black people. She's out for herself.

[@mayamartinez5805]

You can tell who is here to talk about the safety of the trans community and who is here for the safety of their feelings.

[@katherineauber]

Yep

[@dejanunn6914]

💯Best comment I’ve seen in comments

[@r0zugorudo]

This needs to be the top comment. Spot on

[@keelanmyles]

Preach! 👏🏿 😂

[@Jade-yl9ee]

💯💯💯

[@anthonypham188]

"I'm suppose to refrigerate it?" was a hilarious moment of levity when the tension was high...

[@ToeVelardecross]

Agree! 😂

[@Chubby1G_TV]

not just the medication they bring up but a lot of other things just last longer or are better when refrigerated, like eye drops, don't have to but its way better lol

[@itsyagurr]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hannahpeden4264]

I literally hate that Blossom can interrupt anyone but no one can interrupt her

[@keri1364]

And the “moderators” let it happen. I actually couldn’t finish this garbage “debate”

[@Jeskers18]

You mean him. He does not give off any feminine energy

[@GypsyInTheHood]

Total narcissist

[@GirlBehindACamera]

I wouldn't feel comfortable with "blossom" using the female bathroom.

[@Zanakiller123]

She’s Black !!! Let her speak !!! She’s so oppressed she went to the White House !!! Can’t u see ??

[@stuff1784]

When Blossom can’t win the victimhood argument based on “I’m trans” she goes into the “I’m black” argument.

[@dannyhilarious]

From trans-baiting to race-baiting within seconds.

[@robnzoekravitson]

Blossom being trans and black, automatically, makes anyone who talks to her privileged and therefore she has struggled a billion times more than anyone in the entire existence of time and space.

[@treehouse8501]

we call her fart blossom

[@NimbusThundertail]

This is typical of her interviews. It's ok to share the experience, but when your whole conversation boils down to that point every time, it's redundant and seems off-focus.

[@robnzoekravitson]

@@NimbusThundertail The sad part is Blossom probably went through struggle. Her constantly bringing it up, devalues those difficulties and invalidates the strength it probably took to be where she is today.

[@Cyanotic73]

My whole heart broke when Andrew said “my privilege? I was raised by drug addicts and have HIV as a result” 😢😢😢

[@gamerdudepunk]

aw :(

[@Elavvqx]

Who did he say this to?

[@jamalazero2353]

@@Elavvqx he said it in response to blossom when blossom mentioned everyones privilege, it was in the trans in military discussion

[@evalovett]

Blossom needs to realize everyone has their own set of problems and that not every single one (while there are some) of are directly stemmed from an individual’s race. Racism is horrible to face, point blank. But you don’t clock everyone who isn’t your race as “privileged”. Some of these people grew up in nightmare situations and/or endured painful situations. And they’re not even black. Racism hurts everyone. And the way she ignores these people’s feelings and actual vulnerable stories and moments shows she lacks empathy for them. She is the racist.

[@dreamgrrrl]

@@Elavvqx around 25:16

[@tasiacochran7661]

As a woman, born a woman I have an opinion. I wasn't allowed to get my cystic ovary removed at 16, regardless of the amount of pain I was in every day constantly, they would not do it because I was a minor. I couldn't get this invasive life altering surgery because I was a MINOR. I lived with the pain. Why is this okay?

[@HookahHoku]

It’s terrible you went through that, and that was physical pain. It’s a wild world we live in. Sincerely, an empathetic trans republican.

[@haileylockhart8967]

It's not ok. I'm so sorry you went through this! The Double standards are infuriating.

[@del7920]

How dare you cut out the part where Blossom is screaming at Blair White with the director not letting Blair defend herself? She keeps screaming over and over again about Blair’s “whiteness” being an attack on Blossom’s blackness. That’s disgusting Jubilee. Shame on you.

[@Deletedspidey1999]

They showed this in the patreon cut?

[@e11anora]

where can you find the uncut bit?

[@jannahnas]

​@@Deletedspidey1999blaire talked about it on her channel

[@elenabob4953]

I don't care olif Blair talked about it on their own channel, the fact that Jubilee cut this part to defend the other side had NO EXCUSE. If they react like this in public when filmed, how I can feel safe with them in our spaces?

[@VeroLaRemix]

​@Deletedspidey1999 there are plenty of people who cannot afford to see the unedited cut. It's pretty disgusting that a company that is liberal that wants to acknowledge its privileges is using a pay platform to protect someone's vile behavior.

[@Rendoku25]

Jubilee needs to hire some actual neutral mediators for these debates. They way they go now, especially this one, is NOT a debate. It’s bullying and incredible rude.

[@IgonDrakeWarrior]

I agree. Shouting and insult matches dont get us no where. They should definitely start doing this

[@Ego_death19]

they need to hire someone else to edit these....

[@Sabrinatw]

Lol they also need to hire real editors. They don’t cut things out from the truth. They also need to hire real therapist to get some of these people help that they desperately need. Also security to take care of the cowards that threatened to cause physical harm to the other guest.

[@carla.c]

I would like for people to actually finish their points before another person starts talking. So annoying.

[@Sabrinatw]

@@carla.c exactly, but unfortunately woke people don’t have respect or common sense. They always have to argue if someone disagrees and have to physically or mentally harm someone.

[@MissAllWednesday]

Shame on Jubilee for Copyright Striking Blaire's reaction video to her experience on Jubilee. I'm not even conservative, and y'all were totally bias. Your audience deserves a redo!

[@lexyg1693]

Because she doesn't fit their narrative and of course they have to be petty 🙄

[@kstephane1444]

You are not liberal either so

[@1farahnaz]

Wtffff jubilee SHAME ON YOU

[@cynister7355]

That's messed up. That makes me more invested to watch it.

[@ramittyagi667]

Sooo true this is really sad to see these double standards

[@xivtl]

As a cis-gendered woman who is politically independent, i stand with blaire. This isn’t about feelings, this is about reality.

[@calvin624]

Using your race as an excuse to be a belligerent narcissist is a new low. She should transition into being a better person.

[@sbdreamin]

best comment award!

[@ktclips7153]

I 100% AGREEE!

[@jonjonsovich1420]

it's hardly new lol

[@danim3714]

👌 blossoming like a cactus

[@kuromichan2164]

im dying omgg

[@jerryligairi1078]

Trying to argue over the veteran trans woman about trans people in the military is HILARIOUS

[@zkart8038]

That too by someone who also never transitioned.

[@streamingservices2469]

That’s what I’m saying. 😂😂😂Props to Sasha also for being willing to listen to the conservatives great points, unlike his shitty team of idiots

[@mrunknown7710]

😂😂

[@BizQAC]

Like the trans women that argue with women about being a woman. The entire identity for some is based on delusion.

[@AidenJamesP]

As someone in the military that transitioned in the military, Sara was completely misrepresenting what it’s like to be in the military.

[@bokangphelane]

As a black person i really cringe when black people use race to excuse their bad behaviour and double standards. "Don't interrupt a black trans woman" but she's been interrupting everyone

[@An3moLexi]

factsss me too

[@yonce2347]

aS a BlAck peRsoN, I cringe when a "black" person need to specify their race to say something about black people.

[@shayla106]

@@yonce2347 I don’t, because a lot of these lunatics will jump on you if you’re not black speaking about a black issue.

[@hinachan70]

​@@yonce2347People will then question if you're black, as in "allowed" to speak about the issue, if you don't state your race on certain topics. Why? Because first of all I'm behind a keyboard so you can't see my skin color. Second, we shouldn't even be asking race but here we are. Read the room, friend. Look at how people behave before you complain about precautions that have to be taken to avoid a heated argument.

[@yonce2347]

@@hinachan70 If you don’t feel like it’s to okay to say something if you were white, why do you think it’s okay to say it if you’re black? Is that not Blossom’s issue? It ends up making you sound even more pathetic, especially to black people.

[@fernandagonzalez7367]

I would have LOVED to hear more of Sasha. He genuinely sounded like he was trying to find middle ground with the other side. He was respectful, kind, didn't speak over anyone. Way to go 🩷

[@abbieahrens9565]

Everyone is talking about Blair but SARA is the real star. She really educated everyone without getting upset and fired up. She justified everything with real reasons and experiences

[@clarabruselas8444]

she didn´t get fired up because people weren´t out to get her the way they did with Blair. i assure you them knowing Blair was going to be there was their gold opportunity to shine by dragging her. there´s a huge portion of the trans community that hate her just because of not being delusional. That being said, i agree that Sara was fantastic and if people weren´t so focused on blasting Blair, we could have listened to Sara and everyone else more

[@jeronimofrost6990]

Sara made great points but they didn't try to cut Sara's throat like they did to Blaire. The director told Blaire she had to speak last and blossom screamed at and threatened her, all of which was edited out according to blaires reaction to this video

[@veerbee]

I think the opposing side didn't pay much attention to Sara, although she was obviously very well read and very smart, she knew what she was talking about and made excellent points. They were focused on Blair bc they saw her as a threat and not Sara

[@moniquenickybasson6903]

sara wasn't being threatened like blaire was off camera and cut parts

[@lucaal77]

I definitely agree with this. The non binary person is just a joke

[@chu9573]

For someone who hates being interrupted, Blossom sure does love to talk over people. Loudly at that.

[@unionunicorn6776]

Hypocritical

[@MrSharks-ox4jr]

And she is so real for that

[@gabbysuhh]

⁠@@MrSharks-ox4jrno she isn’t 😭

[@fr2ia94]

@@MrSharks-ox4jr no…

[@vika.a6424]

​@@MrSharks-ox4jrEWW NO WAY

[@hearts16]

Blaire was on point when she pointed out that if trans ppl are 1% of the population and want to be heard and not disregarded, why do they totally disregard the 1% of detransitioners? Valid point!

[@gimygaming8655]

Agreed!

[@punkrockresume]

My favorite argument of the whole debate. Always so quick to invalidate detransitioners experience while screaming that everyone is invalidating theirs. It's the hypocrisy for me

[@chinita1pr]

I had never thought about that until she said it. Very insightful.

[@sakasusuk]

And then they used the excuse of ‘Well if happens’. Like BRO it happened in ur community and you just glossed it over as its some kind of ‘mistake’. I dont mind them being protective of the community but like why is it that they dont give the same energy with thr detransitioners

[@ressesdave2250]

Cause trans people are not harming the 99% of cis people. And trans people do feel for detransitioners but they are not gonna allow something to harm the 99% of trans people to save 1% of detransitioners. There are ways to help detransitioners without harming trans people. Alot of these detransitioners did not follow the correct wpath guidelines and went to bad doctors. But if a doctor commits malpractice you go after the doctor u don't go after the surgery that helps people.

[@Wixxteria]

"Do not interrupt a black trans woman when she's speaking!!" Oh but you can interrupt people?? Girl?? How tf does that make sense miss blossom??

[@Jasijay_]

@jubilee Please do not have Blossom back on here…as a Black Woman myself, her being allowed to verbally attack other women and men because she disagrees with them is very disgusting. I thought this platform was inclusive I used to think highly of it but now…I don’t understand how you all can allow someone unhinged like that to be apart of this important dialogue showcase.

[@dekxu6673]

she somehow turns every conversation into a full blown argument and talks over people. it’s annoying. its called middle ground, you’re gonna to hear opinions you don’t agree with, that’s the point.

[@aorekagaming412]

Then turns everything into a race war if losing the argument. Professional Victim

[@CoquiDeBoriken]

Because it helps expose assholes as well.

[@ginihall1234]

This

[@mikenray21]

She never let's anyone else talk.

[@metalheadfromslovakia]

Dear Blossom, it’s not your gender, it’s not your race… it’s you

[@myracarol4114]

Ugh blossom is the absolute worst. Blossom should for everyone's sake please go away, far far away.

[@truthbearingpsychonaut]

That's usually what you like to excuse racism as. She got heated and was a bit emotional, but Blaire was the mean witch here.

[@Literally_a_Moth]

@@truthbearingpsychonautjubilee shouldn’t be making these videos if they’re just going to platform conservatives and racists.

[@TwinsBigLikeTia]

@@truthbearingpsychonaut Blaire has never been racist 😂 being black just has nothing to do with the debate and topics being discussed. Just pulling another victim card to feed her narcissism. You see it in the libs in all of these debates. Can’t debate with facts and logic so they gotta pull something out to make it about them.

[@izabellapollock]

She’s willfully ignorant and is a bully just to support her own point. Any statistics or valid counter arguments that’s brought up, she denies it. It’s almost gaslighting

[@NormanFRockwellontop]

I have so much respect for Jessica. Her saying "I don’t pass" hurt me for her. She’s so compassionate and so self aware and I wish her the best.

[@dianaselnekovicova948]

To be honest all of them pass visually except from that non binary person

[@alby7223]

nonbinary people don't have to 'pass' in any binary direction, einstein. They are literally not on either side of the binary @@dianaselnekovicova948

[@sanityshorror]

Jessica absolutely does pass, I wouldn't have guessed she's trans unless I'd already known. Some afab/xx people are born with very masculine features, look at Shane for example.

[@broforcefreedom4936]

@@dianaselnekovicova948not blossom with how aggressive they were

[@soniaess28]

​@@sanityshorrordon't be ridiculous. None of the men pass.

[@cassandradorman6273]

As a WOMAN I get really tired of being referred to as cis. Like no sis im just a women born and raised. I'd never go up to a Trans person and be like hey Trans girl. I treat Trans as the way they want to be treated and called no extra words.

[@krisinallcaps]

Cis is literally just a term made to differentiate the two. You'll live, it's just a word.

[@ilovecatsandsoup]

@@krisinallcapsTrans is already differentiating both. I'm a woman, you're a trans woman. 👍

[@jessimick7471]

Girl no one is coming up to you being like hey cis woman either, it’s used in these contexts to differentiate. The issue with that narrative is that it implies that trans women are not women.

[@ilovecatsandsoup]

@@jessimick7471 Woman - an adult female human. Trans women are not women they are TRANS women for a reason. its not transphobic to say so. They are people who suffer from gender dysphoria and decided to medically transition to resemble the body of a woman. Do you think a person who grew up their entire life as a guy and transitioned to look like someone they couldn't possibly look like naturally, is the same thing as a woman? You have trans people admitting this fact. You're literally just erasing women by saying this

[@SamSingh-d5t]

​@@ilovecatsandsoupcis and trans are both prefixes so being called cos just means that u are not trans nd being called trans means u r not cis .....jst like maleic and fumaric acid....one is a trans isomer nd the other is a cis isomer

[@joyq1579]

As somebody who's pretty liberal..I was EMBARRASSED. They didn't win any arguments, just derailed valid points. Blossom really thought she ate by bringing her race into this 😭

[@kellyperry559]

Were you actually surprised that he brought race into it?

[@reinexalumina9925]

I mean, that's how most "liberals" talk on the internet and in the West, so I wasn't surprised. It's the woke culture. My family is pretty liberal, but I turned conservative because there are far too many extremist "liberals" nowadays. The scream for "tolerance" but can't even tolerate that some people have different ideas that don't agree with them. The only liberals I am thankful for are real liberals whom I can actually have normal conversations with and don't have to always walk on eggshells. People don't always have to agree on things. What matters is how we treat each other and not just call people "Bigots" every time they disagree with you.

[@shadowyzephyr]

As a liberal, there are a subset of liberals who try to bring race into everything, and it's really annoying.

[@idk-mz3ys]

yeah, same. I think Shane was the only liberal who raised strong, supported arguments against the conservative side, he didn't really get any help from the other liberals tho. I think Blossom was actively hurting the liberal side the whole time by, making herself the Liberal stereotype

[@joyq1579]

@@idk-mz3ys I liked Shane until I found out he went on a podcast with Blossom to talk about how they "won" the debate 😭 I thought this was a channel to reach a middle ground, not arguing.

[@ClaraPNAraujo]

I'm a liberal and honestly disappointed to see the treatment Blaire received from Blossom. There's absolutely no excuse to yell at someone during a debate. There's quite alot of Blaire's thoughts that I disagree with but she actually makes plenty of valid points and deserves respect as much as anyone else in the room

[@spicycorndogs4619]

I think she was also very disrespectful as well but Blossom definitely was out of pocket too

[@thatvampigoddess926]

I have seen a lot of debates on this channel and never have I seen them allow anyone to call someone disgusting up until this point.

[@bellezaxglam9727]

@@spicycorndogs4619agree

[@ClaraPNAraujo]

@@spicycorndogs4619 I agree, not a fan of the eye rolling and faces she came up with at some points. But Blossom took it to a whole other level.

[@ClaraPNAraujo]

@@thatvampigoddess926 that was straight up bullying

[@IslandVibez_Virgo]

As a black person I’m so tired of ppl bringing race into an argument that has nothing to do with race as a deflection tactic 🙄

[@demondbrooks568]

Trying to be a victim and bully in the same breath....disingenuous....she knows she can get away with that shyt around white people....did you see her CNN clip?

[@YAHWEH_TSIDKENU]

So true. We gotta take accountability

[@xatusound]

"as a black person" you hate when people bring up race? but you just did the same thing? Why is it ok when you use race to qualify and distance yourself, but she can't use it to empower? make it make sense please.

[@aplaowattanakul7760]

Some black people said asking about gender is racist.

[@tekitaway2]

​@@aplaowattanakul7760no that was a white person. 😂😂. They said if they got asked their gender it would be racist

[@Jaxxie1981]

Being transgender is tied to the condition of gender dysphoria. Being non-binary, gender fluid, gender queer doesn't fall under the umbrella of "transgender". Choosing to have a quirky sense of style and play around with gender stereotypes within that realm is just that - a choice.

[@oliphaniakush6554]

100% facts. It’s so ridiculous that Alex was so upset and had so much eager to use the title “Transgender” when they don’t even identify with the word “gender”.

[@ezra_k2]

Blossom out here talking about how transwomen should be safe and look out for each other but then threatening a transwoman 💀

[@jjtrejo4125]

yup. it's called ✨entitled✨

[@PrettyBaby293]

@@jjtrejo4125it’s called ✨innate behavior✨ blossom is just doing what biological men are programmed to do..be territorial and aggressive lmao

[@sad_vegan507]

Blossom is the most privileged out of everyone

[@CatBahptista]

With that big ole linebacker 6 foot 6 body or however tall “she” is 💀 gtfoh

[@vw4822]

And doesn't give a sh*t about sis women. I'm not sure any woman would be comfortable around Blossom who is extremely aggressive.

[@udkmeeee]

blossom using her trans-ness and skin color to make her voice heard over others and use it as an excuse to interrupt others while ridiculing others for interrupting her is absolutely disgusting

[@oooon222]

The worst part is that it must have worked for her in the past

[@dianarug4662]

@@oooon222 yep. how disappointing.

[@wednesdayaddams7066]

It's people like blossom that are the reason we will never see change or be taken seriously.

[@Phoney.Baloney]

He couldn’t be anymore liberal

[@deusdex1186]

@@oooon222 The dude is obviously used to terrorising weak progressives into white guilt paralysis.

[@iggyigz4229]

Imagine being so privileged that you can actually say "don't interrupt a black trans person" and expect that everyone will stop interrupting you

[@dharmainitiative9152]

Because she is the most oppressed, didn’t you get the memo? 😆

[@reheatthepasta9545]

I feel as though that usually flies in their own echo chamber but the common sense portion of the world doesn’t exist there so when we see it the cringe and “wtf” thoughts form.

[@kaygee2121]

Word. Literal entitlement.

[@AJManol]

But people DO cowtow to her. Everyone is afraid of being cancelled or thought of as a "bigot". (Pot calling the kettle black, much?)

[@grace.charlie]

Blossom and the rest of the libs are ruining it for themselves and aren’t even realizing it

[@haysus83]

Asking the sex ed question only to hide it behind a paywall feels kinda scummy. You already stated at the beginning that the full conversation was on patreon. I hope this tactic isn't used in the future.

[@StanChunghaOrGoHome]

Blossom uses the “I’m a black trans person” as a way to say “I’m the biggest victim out of all of you therefore my point is the only valid one”. Which is an obnoxious mentality to have.

[@StAlchemyst]

Blossom has been to the White House, and given a free ride through med school. If anyone has had any REAL privilege it's her.

[@SpectreBagels]

Specifically a racist mindset to have

[@xander_k_]

@@mynameisraybeing mixed only really affects you if you physically look like your non white race.

[@IdkFoxii]

@@mynameisraywhat is she mixed with

[@Sadlittlecloud]

@@mynameisrayshe definitely looks Latina IMO but yes race shouldn’t matter and it has 0 place in this debate

[@jinnieneutron7572]

i’m not even conservative but this was CRAZY. The liberals were so aggressive 💀

[@sangi0684]

same

[@kkthomas6864]

They usually are aggressive! Look at all the crazies protesting in NYC against Israel. The LGBT community is siding with Palestine and they must have forgot Muslims are anti-gay BIGTIME and Israel is welcoming/accepting!

[@coltonc8894]

Seriously.. all feral for no reason lmao.. like we’re adults , let’s act like it and have actual debates that aren’t toxic

[@malivolusj3110]

Time to switch over? We have cookies.

[@Anne_Onymous]

What's new?

[@misakiXmei]

not blossom turning it into a race issue just to get heard as if she wasn’t interrupting everyone herself 💀 I‘m saying this as a black woman - this is supposed to be a fair debate so don’t shout race just to make your voice weigh more

[@kareenaemerson5810]

literally. Stop the victim mentality blossom.

[@onepartyroule]

Preferred pronouns are a curtesy. Males (however they identify) who are out here happy oppressing women and girls don’t deserve “she” as far as I’m concerned. My response to them is “if empathy and curtesy is so important, you do it first”.

[@johnnyappleseed5590]

It’s a he not a she.

[@vivi20667]

Especially considering she’s pretty much arguing she’s more of a victim than the guy who literally has HIV and drug addicts as parents. He clearly has a huge disadvantage in life and still manages to be a lot more respectful than her. She always has to be listened to because of her skin color, but his opinion doesn’t matter because he’s conservative.

[@seekerandthinker]

the victim mentality is strong in that guy, "don't interrupt a black transwoman" so privilege to go White House, but claimed to be oppressed

[@zebrababy6267]

Black woman here: This was like one of the most entertaining debates on middle ground. Does anybody else love Blaire as much as I do?? Lol

[@keishacoleman-c4k]

Black person too and blossom mad be mad asl just embarrassing us 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Rated_Fenty]

@@keishacoleman-c4kit’s actually not surprising that you both loved Blair 😂

[@meganwaldroop6761]

Love her too! And I'm a white straight cis-female and an independent

[@diesel8907]

@@meganwaldroop6761​​⁠independent.. Like for voting?

[@NineEyes97]

Crazy how Blossom wants trans people to be safe but thinks it’s ok to openly threaten Blair with violence, “the bodyguards are outside, keep it real cute”, in a debate.

[@heidinguyenphuoc7911]

its also funny bc blossom said that she didnt threaten blaire (on her ig) and im like.....more than a million ppl heard u said that u had bodyguards waiting outside for her...like....is she fr

[@johnsmith-dx2ql]

very lady like behavior

[@cultytalk]

A FULL RIDE thru Med School - Vocabulary, Mentality & Attitude of a 5th grade BULLY 👎👎👎 SAD & disturbing to watch!! PLEASE tell me she is not an actual physician that works with PEOPLE! 🙏

[@Viewable11]

This happened at 29:30

[@lependu403]

​@@heidinguyenphuoc7911 I think she was talking about Blaire's friend she brought being her bodyguard, but I think he just came to be supportive. He wasnt being paid to protect her or anything. Regardless, Blossom was implying violence when she mentioned the body guard - like he was the only reason she wasn't going to get violent.

[@scarletpsycho5384]

Blossom is one of the most hypocritical people I’ve ever seen, no one was being rude or discriminating her, yet she pulled the victim card and not only did she act like she was the only poc in the room but she was the only one using her racial/ethnic background as an accuse to belittle everyone around her

[@nashocheese]

That truly was hypocritical. I think at that point in the discussion she lost the room and everyone kind of got the feeling she was Irrational.

[@Ghostman128x]

Me as a black person watching she did not have to pull the race card at any point in this video. She’s surrounded by people who welcomes all that she is. The fact that she pulled that and said other unnecessary things I’m just like 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@adelegatimbirizo7696]

@@Ghostman128xliterally, like what does race have to do with with this debate at any point? Uuuuggghhhhh 😒

[@liameiliana7899]

i watched blossom in other videos and yes she is problematic. Like when she was arguing with amala, in trans vs concervative woman. When it comes to her argument, everything is valid, but the same thing applied to the opposite argument it's not anymore.

[@jazmin2463]

Agreed!!!!! Blossom has major mentally internal issues, blossom has to figure that out personally way before being on any panel going forward. Almost all of the liberal side needs to sit and reflect. Almost all of their responses were so disgustingly selfish.

[@xxmira.1738]

sara is so well-educated. i hate that they kept speaking over her when discussing the military ban cause she’s the actual veteran here😭!

[@evepoole3966]

So?

[@whym3689]

@@evepoole3966so she knows what it’s actually like first hand experience. They’re all speaking from statistics and interviews while she’s BEEN THERE SHE WAS THERE. She’s literally the person they’re talking about

[@georgiabluesjohnson4251]

Exactly it was so annoying like how are u gonna talk about the service but ur not even letting the ONLY veteran there speak about their real experience

[@Random-sk6hm]

As a Liberal, I actually enjoyed her viewpoints. I hated Blair tho, she was so rude and KEPT interrupting. It felt like she was there to just peddle her arguments and not to debate. Blossom was also quite annoying too.

[@WrongWayRomanGabe]

I've seen her in other content/ videos..she always mentions THE SAME things over and over and only sites the 1,same source that she says b4, it's almost like she put together this list of stats. and factoids that's all well reversed and scripted..plus she's not only a CONSERVATIVE trans person, she's sitting with the SAME group of ppl that won't even call her and her & wouldn't cross the street to pass on if she was on fire, so that alone shows some red flags that I won't go into ab this 'person'...she also just gives off bad vibes.js

[@nkycardcollector]

Of all the topics, why did they not cover trans people and sports?

[@MrMissplaced]

I know right? it's on e of the hot topics I wanted them to talk about

[@SiaD777]

To compare dropping out of school to cutting off a body part is insane. You can always go back to school, you can't grow back a body part.

[@thasisters4528]

Exactly what I was thinking!

[@Deeptunester]

Not only that, but it makes sex change operations sound like a bad decision just like dropping out of school would be.

[@tristangavura966]

You can go back and get a GED literally whenever

[@janetcarswell2178]

I totally and utterly agree. That really annoyed me

[@JusttheGayBits]

But I get what he's saying though. He was put in positions where was forced to be an adult before he wasn't an adult and yet he can't make decisions on his body like an adult. So the system picks and chooses when it sees minors as minors.

[@Fortheloveoforthodoxing]

It’s really cringe and unprofessional of Jubilee to not stop Blossom multiple times from interrupting literally EVERYONE on this panel. And yet around the 40min mark they tell Blaire to not interject comments during Blossom talking. Weird.

[@goobieeleaf]

i saw it coming from both sides, i think they only really stopped it because it was escalating, which was way after the conversation went unprofessional

[@unregisteredhypercam2142]

My question is why they invited Blossom back when she was exactly like this last time she was in a Jubilee video.

[@Penislaser]

because drama gives views, simple

[@koraliee]

​@@unregisteredhypercam2142For rage farming. Blossom brings the drama, and drama gets engagement. Admittedly I still fell for it.

[@hidansektas]

they need a whole another moderator. this was such a fail. blossom ruined it by her behaviour regardless of me agreeing or not agreeing with her. ridiculous

[@enjoywarmwinters]

I can’t believe Jubilee struck this video on Blair’s page! I believe Jubilee has lost credibility here. Blair was not able to debate at all because she was being personally attacked the whole time. In my opinion, the liberals LOST this debate 😂. When you only come with emotion you’ll never win. People just love being victims.

[@Smiley957]

Jubilee never had any credibility

[@enjoywarmwinters]

@@Smiley957 haha I do agree!

[@alinaconley71]

She was talking for 45% of the time

[@tctyt]

​@@alinaconley71just when these people try to destroy her well-being in a debate.

[@paulfinklea2975]

It really doesn't matter who "won" or "lost" this terrible "debate". At the end of the day, trans people just want to be treated like everyone else and this fear-mongering surrounding trans people going into bathrooms, participating in sports, and "grooming" simply doesn't exist; there's no data to prove otherwise.

[@ihavenoname5940]

10:48 “trans non-binary” WHAT is this even suppose to mean? It doesn’t make sense at all😂

[@marylo191]

My thoughts exactly 😂😂😂

[@marylo191]

My thoughts exactly 😂😂😂😂

[@Harajukubarbie333]

I burst into laughter when she pulled the "trans black woman" card. That's hysterical. Literally no one brought up race at all. It's so extra.

[@StanChunghaOrGoHome]

Same I laughed too

[@Repentdaily1990]

It was gross!

[@lyndza1989]

"give me extra better treatment..because!"

[@deusdex1186]

Every single time.

[@onangelwings462]

Oh yeah they were going to pull every damn card.

[@blandbeauty]

There needs to be a black trans conservatives vs black trans liberals. Bring Blossom back, and see how far she gets without being able rest her points on “being a black trans woman”

[@len-1768]

Even better, bring Flame Monroe and Kat Blaque.

[@LoveMiaStuff]

@@len-1768second on Kat, she’d excel here

[@ave8863]

Yes because she goes off when she knows people aren’t combative.

[@keirahleesha486]

@@len-1768yesss lol, they can read her to filth & they’ll stop the bullcrap from her before it even starts😂 they aren’t disillusioned with what they really are & what life is.

[@Random-sk6hm]

As a liberal, I agree she was annoying and that felt a little too much. Blossom and Blair were both insufferable and should not have been there.

[@Andrea-po3rm]

I have worked in "grassroots" and have never and probably will never influence the number of people Blaire has. I do not agree with all her views, but i think it's inappropriate to negate the amount of work she has put into her craft and ignore the number of people she has reached. Regardless if you have helped a few people, a dozen, or a million. Do not let anyone devalue your worth.

[@pchuru6734]

Blair is helping aLot people…. If she doesn’t do it in the way you want doesn’t count? Ridiculous. Not everyone has to be social worker, b Volunteer in order to make impact. The little respect I have towards trans community is for ppl like Blair and Sarah mature, respectful and articulate enough to don’t play victim card.

[@GirlBehindACamera]

Blaire is the only sane person on this panel... the liberals ones are so out of touch with reality with their victim mindsets

[@pommiebears]

Blaire has helped me, as a biological woman, understand that there are trans people who aren’t just “men in a dress”! She has helped others too. Blossom……frightens the life out of me. I can find no common ground with someone like Blossom. Aggressive, and oppressive. Not someone I want to embrace.

[@pommiebears]

@@pchuru6734 I agree.

[@DeserieDrew]

Exactly! It's like who's standards are we going by here. Blaires given a platform for detransitioners before anyone else. 😢

[@John-yf3ey]

Blair wants to protect cis women too. Protect her at all costs.

[@VIZIONARYxx]

As A Biological Black woman I will say that Blossom does not represent us in ANY regard. Not everything is about race. Truly an embarrasment.

[@yaspgirl94]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@poptasticanimation55]

Thankyou, she didn't need to interject that

[@jasmineduran6731]

I second this as another biological black woman. We as black women get a bad reputation enough, and she just made it worse.

[@jesuslovesyoudontforgetit5343]

I as well!

[@Hope4Life26]

@@jasmineduran6731Right.

[@leticiadiaz5088]

The moment blossom threatened Blaire she should have been removed from this debate. That’s ridiculously unprofessional and unacceptable.

[@KuroItami]

it's crazy nobody acknowledged that

[@leftthatbehind6090]

@@KuroItamitime Mark?

[@julannelly]

​​@@leftthatbehind6090 I think it was cut out but multiple people have come forward about it. She supposedly threatened her early on to (paraphrasing) watch herself because she's got her people outside.

[@CobwebsEdits]

@@leftthatbehind6090 29:26 around that time Blossom said something like, “Glad you body guard is outside.” Though yeah, they may have cut most of it out.

[@zempasuchitl88]

@@leftthatbehind6090 29:31

[@LittleBrassPegasus]

The fact that the "non binary" person on the panel questioned more than once "whats the obsession with other people's kids" is a point blank representation of how egocentric and apathetic he is towards other people he cant relate to. Children MUST BE PROTECTED. If I see a child being abused in ANY capacity I WILL speak up. I will never turn a blind eye to children suffering abuse or manipulation.

[@algs4882]

I respect and somewhat agree with your opinion, it is very important to make sure children have the support they need. However, you can state your opinions without disrespecting Alexander as a nonbinary person. THEY deserve respect just as you do and everyone else even if you dont agree with them... please use the correct pronouns... kind regards

[@dudeorduuude5211]

​@@algs4882be quiet and stop being an AH.

[@niaobviously]

Who’s “he”?

[@blarty]

they*

[@chrisspike3282]

@@blarty HE. I'll use it in a sentence so you can understand: "HE wears clown make up and has a d*ck, so HE is male". Got it babes?

[@coasttao]

Conservatives: Defines a word. Liberals: "Why are you attacking me?"

[@Birdbandb]

Everyone sleeping on Sarah. Clearly well educated and well spoken - also amazing demeanor.

[@Kyrridwen420]

Also the "let's go girl" moment was so cute, very Shania Twain 😂✨️💕

[@laurenlynn4464]

Loved her too she’s well spoken and I appreciate seeing her talk about her experiences.

[@elle7899]

Is she the one who was in the military? I didn't catch anyone's name except Blair and Blossom.

[@Hallow5s]

@@Kyrridwen420 AND THENN THE POWER WALK AFTER THAT WASS SO ICONNIC I CANNNNTTTT

[@elle7899]

@@mr22288 Loved her.

[@tonyamell23]

Blossom is really a joke! Im a black trans woman myself and never would I use that as a weapon to basically walk all over people the way she does. The whole, "Never interrupt a black trans woman when she is speaking," was just insane! How people take her seriously as a trans advocate/activist? I'm confused myself.

[@Layla109]

Blossom's a horrible representation of black trans community. Full stop. They should stop inviting them to these debates with as much toxic masculine energy they exuded at certain points was more than palpable.

[@Dcysngr108]

Thanks for saying that. Blossom is acting like they represent EVERYONE and I think they actually represent nobody in the process

[@Dcysngr108]

Hopefully I wasn't interrupting you as a black trans woman 😂❤

[@anahernandez4043]

Sounds like you're a more well rounded person.

[@silentghost751]

Why are you trans?

[@lidaloo263]

The way he respectfully said “Don’t come for my privilege, I was raised by drug addicts, I have HIV.” 👏🏻

[@Imcornholioo]

But we have to remember “she’s a black trans woman” so no one has it worse than her.🙄

[@zemlya378]

Agreed. I know many black people who have far provides that I could possibly imagine

[@user-js6yq4hr1n]

I literally teared up. Blossom assuming every white person is privileged IS RACISM.

[@scofieldsc3017]

Timestamp?

[@maackia_5581]

Timestamp pls

[@skitto6554]

"I choose to use the men's restroom to protect them" - This person has my respect and is someone whose needs I'd genuinely want to understand. I'd be willing to work with them to find a solution that works for everyone.

[@ReneeBuhrow2008]

Blossom just pissed me off. Victimizing herself and pulling the "as a black trans woman" card to get away with what she was saying. The blatant disrespect for NOT only Blaire but for everyone else speaking was so prominent.

[@MissingOurMissingPod]

All of the “conservative” people were so level headed. I didn’t think anything they were saying was at all conservative or bad or crazy - it was simple common sense. Blossom was batsh*t insane. It’s clear he has a mental illness.

[@Poetic_cynn]

She gives “black trans Karen” vibes

[@rosecanpunchmeandIwouldsaysorr]

@@Poetic_cynnI mean she IS. She‘s unbearable af.

[@red_calla_lily]

​@@Poetic_cynnNo, she's just an aggressive guy in a wig. There's nothing feminine about her, it's all toxic masculinity.

[@djgeneralbounce]

​@@Poetic_cynnhe's probably one of those who would say you're racist for using the "angry black Karen" trope when he's behaving exactly like that

[@Dara-ih6jq]

How do you compare dropping out of school to getting surgery? You can literally always go back and get your GED. You can’t go back after surgery. That was a horrible comparison because one of them is permanent and the other is not.

[@daze7465]

Exactly lmaooo

[@ktharias84]

I was thinking about that! I'm surprised that nobody responded like that. You can always go back to school if you decide to, but surgeries are not the same.

[@dominiquerobinson347]

Ya my thoughts exactly. Someone should have said that

[@boringmonkey6958]

Let's be real here, the ONLY reason he made that comparison was because it was another way for him to bring up, YET AGAIN, that he was homeless and dropped out of school at 16. That's the only reason. I don't think he even believes what he said, it was just another way to railroad the conversation to keep banging on about how much of a victim he is.

[@cisforcoco]

Exactly and I was so mad that rebuttal was not raised. Similarly to many itber points and this is exactly why I am still convinced we are not wrong to say sex boils down to simply male and female and anything in between is an individuals own perception and feelings. They should be go about their lives socially like no different to a person who choses to be different like wearing gothic clothes, drive a Toyota, etc... cause we're all different, but influencing the majority of society to change for their minority personal feelings bring about so much chaos at best and danger at worst.

[@trentont91]

To compare minors getting surgery, to being able to drop out of school at 16, is just a false equivalence. You can always go back for an education at any age. You can’t come back from sex reaffirming surgeries. It’s just not the same.

[@brookebyers1114]

I agree!

[@lacisollsberger7357]

Exactly my thought when hearing that.

[@shaun5047]

Lol I’m honestly surprised no one called it out. It was such a ridiculous comparison.

[@jamjarrben12]

Exactly thankyou, someone who understand logic.

[@SmittenandBitten]

And more importantly... He says why am i allowed to live alone at 16 but not top surgery? Bro.... You were abandoned. You never had a choice. No one would agree that u should live as an adult at 16. And thats the answer.

[@Psalmsing12]

Ugh i hate how they picked on Blair like that. She made the most sense

[@ToniOne03]

Why are they asking Blair if she ever took care of a homeless transgender person before? This is ridiculous.

[@swooningtree]

That part was like a comedy sketch. So un-self aware

[@xthruxglassx]

Innit! It's like asking a pediatrician have they ever gone and taught in a school because otherwise they aren't helping children. It's the anger at her social media presence that they go for the attack because she is not 100% victimising herself to fit the narrative of "prioritise the trans community rights, or else its bigotry"

[@GenVee]

It's ridiculous...there are people that help homeless people in general...trans aren't special.

[@justdont2378]

They were waiting for that the moment they heard she was gonna be in the debate.

[@Matvakia]

being an influencer and talking about trans stuff is not social work, social work is social work

[@patryapg]

How can you allow these people to be so disrespectful?

[@zipper2741]

Who

[@TheNinjapancake14]

Who else?

[@emilylee5620]

@@zipper2741bloosom? She was the most disrespectful one out of all

[@tiramisuvodka8353]

Spectacle

[@alexis-wf9lk]

@@emilylee5620andrew was definitely a lot more hostile

[@afrominded]

I am SO happy that this comment section is actually full of reasonable people. Facts over feelings. Blossom's behavior was UNACCEPTABLE

[@charmingheartphotography6758]

I wanted to avoid the comments section at first becauae I really thought the comments would be aggressive and out of line, like they were on the show, but I have been pleasantly surprised. 😅

[@Imnotabott_]

You mean full of conservatives and republicans who hate the lgbtq🙄

[@jordynm103]

@@charmingheartphotography6758 exactly, i was shocked when i saw the comments.

[@Secretagentputa]

“I’m about to have an Aneurysm” “somebody give her a Xanax” sums up that girl

[@lorena5mash]

When they ran out of logic, they started to use personal attacks. That's a big sign of weakness in a debate and a display of your intelligence.

[@mylene_b]

I noticed that too.

[@yikes.3239]

what is a sign of intelligence is not having to quantify intelligence by levels of emotional arousal. someone can be intelligent and have less emotional control. two things can exist at once!

[@lorena5mash]

@@yikes.3239 Sure. It doesn't say everything. But if you resort to calling someone disgusting in a debate because you can't win with your arguments, I don't think that's solely to do with losing your temper.

[@keonhh10]

not exactly understanding who this is directed towards, but blair made personal attacks towards people throughout the debate.. she’s not exactly known for her logical reasoning and debate skills either

[@caitlinhammons2437]

@@keonhh10 they edited the timeline to make it look as though Blair started the personal attacks. Apparently, the military prompt was the first question asked, and they immediately jumped on Blair because she's a high profile person they obviously don't like.

[@Black_Myth679]

Just to be 100% clear. I’m black and that woman was painfully insufferable

[@maidenofiron]

Same here. She was the worse part of this entire debate.

[@fancyfancy8549]

Same. Embarrassing tbh.

[@tristankerr3655]

Her and Boy George with a yellow condom on his head

[@courtneywalker5285]

Same here. Hunny hush and let people talk.

[@adas.985]

It's even too nice of you to call him a woman.

[@hannahabt3989]

Came for Blaire, stayed for Sara. Sara is the epitome of decorum in this video. She is so knowledgeable, respectable and respectful, and has the facts straight. Everything she said was on point, she never attacked anyone (Ms ‘trans black woman’ Blossom 👀) or interrupted, and her experience in the military was invaluable in this conversation.

[@KittyKittyBangBang249]

I really enjoyed what she had to say as well. She was a sweetheart and very well informed

[@ThankyouJesus4444]

Yes she was really great!

[@penguinchilli6244]

Same here. I really liked her insights

[@mimijiji0423]

frll!! loved sara. great points

[@imalittlestinker]

I loved her

[@Opinionated22]

“I binded for 8 years and now I have permanent pain” it’s cause you did something UNNATURAL

[@digtzydogmemechannel5670]

Sara won this debate... Not once did she speak over anyone and she was respectful and actually brought up facts and what happens to OTHER people instead of her own experiences to validate her opinions on these issues

[@user-ij3yf7nr4q]

I hear you. But the result of that was that she barely got in a word edgewise. Which is sad, really.

[@912klb]

I absolutely love her!

[@Alexandraincognito]

Sorry, who is Sara again?

[@adil0028]

@@Alexandraincognito the ex military trans girl

[@Alexandraincognito]

@@adil0028 Thanks! Yes, she was a very valuable person in this debate.

[@AngeliquesWings]

Ironic how Blossom pulled the race card every chance she got and used it against Blaire when she's literally mixed race herself

[@jeffkennerson9116]

always does in any KZbin or media appearance,

[@SimorneJanuarie]

Just create a third space🤷🏽‍♀️

[@dundermifflinscott2217]

That just means she is a little higher on the oppression ladder. Gotta feed that victim status

[@valbankz292]

Agree

[@mimipenafiel3523]

That is what ppl do when they have nothing to say.😊

[@RachaelWReads]

Wow, Blair’s point on the 1% double-standard was eye-opening. I have soooo much respect for the fact that she has CLEARLY given this sincere, introspective thought.

[@kateg9437]

It's been her job for years, you'd hope she had thought about these things

[@RachaelWReads]

@@kateg9437 I think there are a lot of people out there doing work that haven’t given topics like these enough thought. Blossom is a perfect example.

[@next_door_rigil3270]

​​@@RachaelWReadsBlair has been a famous conservative for years and has been debating for a living in that time. I have never heard of Blossom so how could she compare to a seasoned political youtuber? Not to forget reasoning is different from debating. You can have logic on your side and still lose if you dont know how to debate.

[@alpacamale2909]

it was the clearest point and we all made it in our heads when the tall guy was talking. oh so you care about your minority but another minority. The hypocrisy is astronomical.

[@B1scu1t_Case]

​@@next_door_rigil3270If I remember correctly, when she debated Destiny, she mentioned that she's Republican but NOT a conservative.

[@BDTTK9]

The conservatives actually came across a lot better than the liberals (apart from Sasha who was trying to find middle ground).

[@MohaAsmr]

I really wish Jessica talked more. She has been trans for longer than any of the people there, and when Blossom talks about privilege...Jessica lived most of her life not transitioning and grew up in a completely different time. We need to listen more to people who have experienced what it was like to grow up back then.

[@star0084]

I agree .Jessica was super interesting to listen to.

[@yagirltones8748]

I agree

[@laurendawes6525]

100%

[@Tiktok_Reddit]

He *

[@ABC-cy6ve]

Jessica hasn’t been trans longer than the other people there… She mentioned transitioning late in life, eight years ago. Blair came out as trans in 2015 and Andrew said he was binding for eight years. Some of the other participants didn’t mention specific timelines.

[@ld7321]

Blossom was PISSED that not any of the questions mentioned race so she just randomly threw it in at irrelevant moments and made a complete fool of herself lmao

[@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594]

@@West4BMovementleave the conversation.

[@KellyfromMemphis]

@@West4BMovementUnnecessary

[@juju-kn6rx]

doing oprresion olympics for no reason fr

[@ld7321]

@@juju-kn6rx haha, the way she dug herself a hole and everyone was looking so confused so she just summed it up with “my blackness should not have to pay for your whiteness!” like it was some mic drop moment 🤣 I didn’t know what tf was going on

[@chromaddict]

like at 1:20:34 what was she even talking about at that point lol

[@DeanthiusD]

The “Don’t interrupt a black trans woman while she’s speaking.” statement made me cringe so hard; and im black trans woman myself lol

[@poisonedcupcake6860]

Thankyou beautiful lady, I definitely raised an eyebrow hearing that said.

[@TheTransConservative]

And I love you for that

[@Detsubkrod]

You got a boyfriend?

[@TheTransConservative]

@@Detsubkrod Silence.

[@cdaz55]

She talks about privilege. Who is the one behaving like she thinks she has privilege by telling Blair not to interrupt her even though Blair is trying to respond to her.

[@b8theartist517]

“I’m supposed to refrigerate it?😳” the most genuine thing said😭😭

[@giorgiadurantini5240]

Everyone talking about Blair and Blossom but... can we talk about Sara? She was so well informed, well spoken, polite, calm and brought to the conversation a lot of very interesting points! I wanted to hear more form her!

[@myfriescold-gabrielamoreno3324]

I loved her and Jessica!!

[@Mica98]

Exactly!! She's so smart and calm, I would love to hear more of her side! I feel like she was the middle ground in person 😅

[@MoyitasLife]

I was thinking this too!!!

[@skypie5374]

ABSOLUTELY

[@Her0115Vlogs]

I agree we need more of Sara

[@nicolemarie8746]

Can we please ban Blossom from these debates? Brings no value and all she does is play victim.

[@deusdex1186]

As well as screeching over everyone else and dominating the conversation.

[@lukalyx]

Can we ban CIS people like you from commenting??? please?? how does this really affect you. Let TRANS people speak.

[@Dontannoyme34894]

She just starts drama

[@janetuss6496]

She seems very mentally unstable and should be in a mental hospital instead of given a platform to spout nonsense

[@gldnkltz101]

Blaire and Blossom both detracted from the civility.

[@futilerecordings]

Blossom is a proven liar! Amala Ekpunobi showed the text messages from when she allegedly "blindsided" her by having Buck Angel debate her on her show. Turns out Blossom was well aware Buck was gonna be there. On top of that, she accused Buck (without evidence) of calling a black woman a monkey, which Buck Vehemently denied. She is a horrible person. I mean... HORRIBLE!

[@user-ij3yf7nr4q]

Oh. Didn't know about that. Thank you for the information :-)

[@titanblade3706]

When Buck asked for receipts and asked the panel to search for the video Blossom was talking about, Blossom had to hurry up and say “allegedly” even though she was outright accusing Buck of being racist. She never apologized either. Terrible

[@JMBBrasil]

Yes! Horrible! And I’m gonna say it, not really trans! That’s a narcissistic men in search of power!

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

Oh. Can you provide the title of the video? I'd like to watch it. I know both Amala and Buck and would love to see this.

[@titanblade3706]

@@terrancecloverfield6791 link to what?

[@koalenk0]

i just liked how quiet it was for the most part when blossom wasnt interrupting people🥰

[@azayzelderegis1655]

It's not an "obsession" to care about how kids are being treated by their parents. That's normal. That's empathetic.

[@ShumilaAhmad]

That was such a weird take. Strange person.

[@darksat6]

He's projecting

[@TheNerd-Y]

And as adults, it is our responsibility to protect the welfare of children so I can never understand why libs say it's an 'obsession' like it's a bad thing

[@sarahsays194]

How dare you care how a parent is raising their child!? What business is it of yours? Well, screw all those children being neglected and abused in so many different ways from parents I guess... No business of mine apparently...

[@lolsamftw]

He doesn't care about children's safety but is perfectly fine with children "consenting" to things....I think we all know what his agenda is.

[@bornsinner5944]

As a liberal the conservatives showed more class and educated points. Can’t imagine acting like that on camera and not being embarrassed

[@pluxcz]

I agree.

[@sugaredviolets2085]

I’m also a “liberal” (I’m Canadian tho so it’s a bit different, I’m not a liberal in that I support the current government bc I really don’t lol don’t worry Canadians I also hate Trudeau), but they were so emotional, angry and ready to fight or oppose whatever the conservatives said, it’s embarrassing. You have to learn to listen, if they didn’t want to actually DEBATE with people who have a different opinion, then they should stick to making online videos screaming into the void. You can’t debate people by not listening, not being respectful and acting like you DESERVE respect and TIME during the “debate” is extremely selfish, arrogant, and delusional.

[@kcmill181]

that's generally how liberals act though (like spoiled children with feelings...)

[@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj]

One of the liberals kept staring at the floor and wouldn't look at anyone while speaking. That's rude.

[@Thegoddessofgreen]

I completely agree it was a missed opportunity for an actual debate with liberals that are actually open minded and can have a conversation with people with a different opinion than theirs rather than just attacking them for it.

[@nocterniaobscura]

I really liked Sara, she was calm and knowledgeable, imo she really helped people who are new to this understand the conservative side point of view.

[@TermaineThomas]

You shouldn't get kicked out of the military if you're doing your job

[@Amiyaht635]

“That is disrespectful to tell a person how they should feel” - Blossom, but wait you were just attacking women on how WE should feel about trans women in the restroom. Do you not hear yourself?

[@duneeaaasha]

Esp since they are a possible threat to us and a minority, why should we be putting their feelings above our safety? She’s so inconsiderate of the community (women) that she is trying to be a part of.

[@Amiyaht635]

@@duneeaaasha”They” (some trans women) want women to accept them but will not accept us (women) and what we believe in. I truly think that there will never be a middle ground

[@julikroos]

She is delusional

[@claff4573]

@@duneeaaasha So are actual men. You don't here conservatives talking about that though. They gaslight feminists and women while making it seem like trans people cause most issues. Yes they should be called out, but so should men just as much as conservatives talk about trans if they really care about women or girls (they don't, unless they get political gain from it.)

[@claff4573]

So are actual men. You don't here conservatives talking about that though. They gaslight feminists and women while making it seem like T people cause most issues

[@missfatcat]

If Blaire were a liberal KZbinr, they would NOT be questioning what she does for their community. Also, Sarah is a veteran, that’s literally where the phrase being on the frontline comes from. 🙄

[@kiaq1153]

didnt know vegans came up with the term lol. fml watching this with assignments waiting for me, i wanna transition to an A+ pupil

[@piecebypiece2028]

Its crazy that jubilee tried so hard to make Blair look unhinged and crazy with their editing, and she still comes across as a buddhist monk when compared to Blossom.

[@AzDoll714]

The producers are pathetic

[@moldbrain660]

A Buddhist monk broooooo☠️☠️

[@theriseofyousafzai]

😂

[@WattPheasant]

Blossom and Blaire were both being insufferable.

[@DubsTV93]

@@WattPheasantBlaire was constantly attacked from the beginning. This video isn’t chronologically edited, the first question they actually had was about trans military. When they sat down, blossom and the others immediately attacked Blaire about not being grassroots & saying she’s done nothing for the community. Then threatened her, that’s how this panel STARTED.

[@haileyg2620]

I have 2 cisgender men brothers, ages 28 and 30, and neither of them would qualify for the military draft. One has an intellectual disability and the other is a legally blind. No one’s crying discrimination over here.

[@bruhg4766]

All u had to say was two brothers

[@dankmemewannabe]

@@bruhg4766this video is about relation to one’s birth gender bruh it’s valid emphasis

[@bruhg4766]

@@dankmemewannabe maybe if your 11

[@slasherfilmz]

jessica saying she goes into the men’s bathroom and she doesn’t pass broke my heart - we love you jessica ❤

[@ytuseracct]

She's so sweet T_T

[@ilovecats21]

She's so sweet and respectful

[@KittyTink]

@@nixcvagreed - as a born and current woman I wouldn’t mind Jessica at all but Blossom would scare me just bc I would be worried that she would assault me for looking at her the wrong way….

[@spigney4623]

Yes and her saying that shes prepared to physically defend herself in the mens restroom. Heartbreaking :(

[@MusikPerspektive]

Seriously, considering Jessica's very correct and respectful behavior and such, I'd have absolutely no problem seeing her in a ladies' bathroom! With Blossom, on the other hand, you already know that, if you basically just looked at her for 1 second, she'd verbally attack you and act offended for no reason. So, she can stay out.

[@noah1502]

huge respect to jessica for acknowledging that she does not pass and that, as a male person, she can make women feel afraid and uncomforatble in their private safe spaces. THAT is a true ally who cares about women. I would stand alongside jessica and make sure all esablishements have at least 1 gender neutral restroom that she could use in lieue of the mens restroom if that helps her stay safer.

[@DigitalCannibal]

👏👏👏

[@wonderwoman1700]

I thought Jessica was so sweet. 🥹🧸

[@whoisedie1127]

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@Lolidella82]

I agree. That was brave of her to acknowledge. And as a woman, if people can truly respect women's spaces, then majority of women are very welcoming.

[@anthony-kelly]

I would have liked to have heard more from her. I think someone with maturity and experience will generally have a more considered insight into these issues.

[@itkillsthepainok336]

When Sara asked what's your dyspohria, that moment of silence said a lot.

[@commentbot9510]

Then the non binary couldn’t even answer the question. They just kept saying “YOU DON’T KNOW MY EXPERIENCE. YOU CAN HAVE OTHER DYSPHORIA” but then never said what the dysphoria was like 🤦‍♀️

[@moonbeamstry5321]

Because they're not even non binary either. What they ACTUALLY have is facetious disorder. The trans community provides a LOT of very convenient and attractive plausible deniability for people who're actually suffering from facetious disorder. And many Drs and therapists and parents are now falling into the facetious disorder imposed on another category. It's very alarming because its the deadliest form of abuse there is. "In factitious disorder imposed on another, a caregiver makes a dependent person appear mentally or physically ill in order to gain attention. To perpetuate the medical relationship, the caregiver systematically misrepresents symptoms, fabricates signs, manipulates laboratory tests, or even purposely harms the dependent (e.g. by poisoning, suffocation, infection, physical injury). It is important to note the caregiver is not performing this behavior for obvious external reward, such as money. Studies have shown a mortality rate of between six and ten percent, making it perhaps the most lethal form of abuse."

[@KiIIerBean]

and then the 'non binary' person mixed up dysphoria and dysmorphia...

[@ramittyagi667]

@@KiIIerBean exactly like atleast educate urself on the fundamentals before coming to a debate

[@1800MDGAF]

​@KiIIerBean yeah wtf was that? Embarrassing is what it was. That person's actions were disgusting.