Truth about the PSA Dagger: The Cheapest Glock Clone 1000 Round Review (vs G19 Gen 5)

The Palmetto State Dagger is a $300 Glock Gen 3 clone with enough features and hype to make it the most anticipated gun of 2021. But is it really as good as they say?
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[@texasranger24]

Should i ever see them for MSRP or below i'll just buy 10 of them. Even if i just bury them for shtf, they'd still make a great inflation hedge investment. And if i can have a reliable gun in every room of the house and two in the shower, i'm basically an action hero. At lest so i was told...

[@mia1shooter]

Shtf😂🤣, what do you think is gonna happen!?

[@alanaldpal950]

@@mia1shooter Who know but evidently he is afraid it will happen Twice in the shower 😮

[@andymullarx6365]

How much do they cost ?

[@NoNo_IStay]

@@mia1shooter "not ready to be unplugged" One of many who are about to learn the hard way.

[@NoNo_IStay]

@Chris G it was probably mia1shooter's idea to hit the car lots. Not used. The NEW car lot. 🔥 🚗🔥

[@sonnyragland7135]

I love it. I dont care what all the gun snobs out there say about PSA.. they really make a great product and the prices are incredibly fair. Things dont have to be disgustingly over priced to be good.

[@TheDjSpeechless]

Exactly

[@mapled3135]

Palmetto is known for price gouging and taking advantage of customers same as CTD. What makes you think they’re using quality materials for these guns?

[@markjohnson206]

@@mapled3135 in what world is $300 price gouging? PSA is one of the few American manufacturers with available guns right now, and that includes their ARs. I own 0 PSA products but it doesn’t take a genius to see that they’re basically giving guns away (per their mission statement. )

[@mapled3135]

Who’s talking about that gun? They sell that POS for $300 because they have no choice.

[@randydescrapper492]

And like their mission statement says they want to arm as many Americans as possible with quality working guns And when the shtf it's going to be hard to find a fan cleaner then

[@crankstonshnord6591]

PSA had these in stock for $300 earlier this week, they just sold out really fast. As an alternative to both, the Canik TP9 Elite SC is fairly available and comes in less than $400, so that may be a good option for someone wanting something G19-ish but wants to save money. Really the main thing I get more and more recently is that Glock needs to get their act together and improve/innovate again. They've been making the same gun for 3+ decades now and the fact is that someone can make the same-ish handgun for half the MSRP. I might add that this is PSA's first polymer handgun so the fact that we can even talk about it vs the Glock is insane. Why DID it take Glock 5 gens to add slide serrations? Why in the world are they still using plastic guiderods and sights? There are still a ton of good reasons to buy a Glock (heck I'd probably tell someone to buy a used gen 3 before buying a dagger) but I honestly think if they don't start stepping up to the plate a bit more they might lose a lot of market share in the next decade. It's not 1995 anymore. Lots of companies make good polymer handguns.

[@JoeWayne84]

Glock isn’t trying to take the bottom of the market they will let Taurus and the likes have that

[@justincase4144]

Try finding Canik mags tho

[@steimystein4368]

Still happy with my $329 Beretta APX Centurion.

[@benruether8294]

They are showing up in stock alot this week. I bought one last Friday with DLC coating and night sights. They sold out quick, but popped back up today

[@dsxz]

@Robert Wallace they're overpriced for what they offer now. Plenty of guns are just as reliable now and don't have a dog shit trigger or sights and have more features

[@FakeNews953]

Everytime I hear the windows ding, I look around and get so confused 😂

[@t3kman]

I was going crazy thinking I had received an email from work.

[@FakeNews953]

@@t3kman exactly! I was thinking I had a notification for my laptop even though I was watching on my iPhone 😂😂 amazing how it messes with your head

[@Apexremy23]

It just happened to me. 😂

[@Wafflefryz995]

Just purchased mine yesterday and I've been watching videos waiting for it to arrive. My total including shipping, tax and the gun itself was right at the $400 mark. And with that, I got an aesthetically pleasing clone. With a cerakote sniper green finish sharp looking window milled slide RMR rear sight w/ cover plate & threaded barrel Stainless steel guide rod Suppressor height sights (ugly day sights) "Extreme carry cuts" (10) 15 round p-mags And a carry bag Imo that's one hell of a deal

[@kasperdagreat1]

I’m debating on purchasing the same deal you got. Do you think its worth it?

[@Davyw95]

How is it holding up so far?

[@Wafflefryz995]

@@Davyw95 fantastic!

[@shmurdaonmymind7687]

Garbage, just because it looks cool it doesn’t mean you smile when you see shit 🤷‍♂️

[@JTheraos]

​@kasperdagreat1 what do you mean "do you think it's worth it?". Any gun that functions well and comes with 10 mags for less than 400 total is a steal and you'll never find anything better. Those psa deals are literally impossible to beat anywhere else in the country, probably for years to come.

[@jamesR1990]

Thanks for the review. You're one of the few reviewers still worth consistently watching imo. You present the information in an interesting form, add in B-roll and shooting to help break up the pace. I find myself watching videos on guns I have ZERO interest in just because I enjoy your style

[@HonestOutlawReviews]

thanks man!

[@coreysuttles1362]

@@HonestOutlawReviews I agree with him 100% thank you for doing what you do man!

[@NickBlazer-cf1vs]

Absolutely. You could review a BB gun, and I would dig it!

[@matthewluyster4037]

Just don't plug explosive olights and your one of my favorites

[@chad_oc]

@@matthewluyster4037 you probably shouldn't do a KZbin search for "honest outlaw olight" then

[@malcolmbevel5387]

As someone who has frequented Palmetto State Armory, I truly appreciate this review!

[@gc7057]

I bought a $300 base Dagger model six weeks ago as a magazine-compatible companion pistol for my PC carbine. Since I am not a big fan of Glock's grip shape, plastic standard sights, or trigger safety bar, the Dagger checked all of my boxes for "something different" while using Glock magazines and being relatively inexpensive. I have been very pleasantly surprised at how well the Dagger suits me compared to a Glock 19.

[@xvprototype123882]

[1:44] I'm not the only one that heard the windows message sound right? [15:23] heard it again.

[@thiasschricker8139]

Checked my notifications just now…

[@aleffel9668]

If someone wanted their first gun, this is usually one of my first recommendations if they’re on a budget. Glock accessories are so available and inexpensive compared to the rest of the market. PSA has been doing good work. My dagger I’ve had over a year now with no issues or malfunctions

[@JG54206]

“If you don’t like the MOS system, or dog hair in your Glock; you could always get rid of your dog….” Hilarious. I know what it’s like to have dog hair on literally everything.

[@kairu_aname]

As a dog trainer, I don't know what life is like without dog hair in literally everything including brand new items that are brought into the house. And also still finding dog hair 3 years after not having a dog literally within 1000 meters of the premises.

[@JG54206]

@@kairu_aname it makes you wonder if they were stashing it somewhere just to mess with you.

[@thefrogking481]

I have honestly found dog hair in my refrigerator! How the hell it got in there I'll never know! I've got two boxers, they are destructive M F'rs for sure.

[@CaveWyatt]

My Catahoula has hair so sparse you can see her skin through it yet there’s white hair all over the damn house! I had hoped she’d be better about that than the Golden we used to have. No such luck!

[@zackinblack]

I liked the MOS. Most people use that setup and have good luck. I prefer night sights and MAYBE a light. Anything more is just converting it to a home gun, but there are better home options (shotguns etc) so I had to move on from a RMR on a carry pistol, it has its uses maybe in competitions, but irons are more durable and time proven. I currently run a 19x, as a main pistol and have no regrets. I can still conceal if I need to, and I get the benefit of having a 17 grip. It's not preferred, but my god is it accurate and comfortable. AIWB has very little discomfort, but you get used to it. Overall I like the MOS system, but it's a useless feature for my preference.

[@breckknight8777]

Thank you for the review. I will gladly echo some of the other folks in the commits and say: There is a lot of gun reviews on KZbin. Your methodology provides a fact based review and when you do share your opinion you make sure you identify it but I have found it warrants consideration. Keep on keeping on please. Your channel is my personal go to for reviews.

[@SS-ek5lz]

If fit/finish and reliability are a match to Glock, youll never be able to tell me a $550 Glock w/ 3 mags is better than a Dagger with 10 Pmags, threaded barrel, and supressor height night sights for $350.

[@rabbitdaze2243]

Sept 28th 2023 just bought a frame for 49.99 an a complete slide with barrel and recoil spring for 189.99

[@aaronlevin2031]

Up until covid I worked at a metal stamping shop. We made a lot of AK receivers and PSA was one of the bigger companies that we contracted for. From my perspective, everything I touched, I looked at as if it was my personal and if it wasn't perfect (even if something was 0.0005 of an inch off I would scrap it. As far as 9s go, the company I worked for did not have a hand in this model. I'm sure it's a good quality piece, but we did have the contracts for the Sig P290 and P365 (9 & 45) receivers along with some internal pieces. I saved up for it and went to the "dark side". A lot of my friends and family prefer Glock over Sig, but this is what feels right to me for a carry.

[@raytyre750]

Thanks for taking pride in your work. What America used to be.

[@KJTUSKJTUS]

Shit if I worked there I'd be like johnny cash. One piece at a time, and it didn't cost me a dime 😂

[@zatrusofnietzche2281]

Thank you for your conscientious work 👍 from a bench Smith. Just checked and apparently Google thinks all bench Smiths are bench pressing weights 🤣😂

[@MegadethTillDeth]

What happened after covid? Any tips on getting into something with firearms? I've run my own handyman business for awhile but I very much am ready to get into the gun world at an official capacity.

[@chef9524]

@@KJTUSKJTUS hell yeah

[@hansoak3664]

That's the most on-point, useful Dagger review out there. Thanks!

[@PC-vq5ud]

Availability: Check Palmetto inventory at 4PM ET. That is when they put them on the web site. After I learned that I picked up mine on the first try. Mine has the trigger pin walking out. The trigger pin walks out to the right. I have a RMA from Palmetto already. Mine does not shoot to where the sights are. 3" right and 3" high at 15 yards from a solid rest. Tested with S&B, Federal, and Wolf 115 gr FMJ and IMI 115 gr hollow points. Accuracy: Not as good as my Glock Gen2 17 from 1989. Averaged 3 to 4 inches at 15 yards. My handloads printed 2 1/2 inches. Best accuracy with factory was the IMI die cuts. That is good ammo. Highest velocity with good SDs according to my chrono of many self defense loads I have tried. I will be glad to update this info after I get the DGAR back from Palmetto.

[@DK-gy7ll]

The trigger pin appears to be walking out in the pistol reviewed here as well.

[@RGRundeRGRound]

Good data points! I'd buy this over a used G19 all day, every day!!

[@RickDeckard2049]

sounds fucking awful, thanks for the review

[@boblaws9851]

@@DK-gy7ll I saw that as well at the 8:52 mark.

[@murphykenji]

Glock trigger/etc pins are cheap af. Have you tried a different set of pins?

[@pops71]

If you shop medium diligently, you can always get one with either an RMR or Dr Cut, suppressor height sights and threaded barrel for $299.

[@Dcook85]

Just picked one up with threated barrel and RMR mount for $369. Definitely worth it at that price.

[@tyson1499]

Where did you get yours

[@BULL19158]

​@@tyson1499go to PSA armoury they have great daily deals. Got mine for around $240

[@BULL19158]

Online store.

[@TheSiberianGrinder]

I got mine for $299 plus shipping, tax and transfer fee. Significantly cheaper than any Glock or decent clone. And I love it. Thanks for the review.

[@EstevanBonilla]

The comment I was looking for! Thank you 💪🏽

[@traviswilliamson1356]

luckily I have a palmetto state armory right down the road and can just have it shipped there for free. picked up the 10 15rd mag and carry bag for 350

[@ventuviper]

I got a notification that right now you can get the PSA Dagger, 10x 15rd mags and a carry bag for like 349. That seems amazing if it is an "almost" glock clone.

[@Harlan6493]

They’re back down to normal price or less now and available 7 days a week. These have turned out to be fantastic.

[@XannysLife]

Bought a frame today for 50$!!!

[@seanquinn4787]

Scooped one myself and was impressed. Full size frame for me (large hands) and the compact frame for the misses. Ripped 250 rounds through it last weekend without issue. Not bad for $400.

[@Paulie705]

I just bought my second Dagger. Paid $480 total for both. PSA is unbelievable

[@Urban_Tarzan]

Well 8 months later and they seem to be a big hit... still tough to find in stock but they are staying true to the msrp. I'm just past 1,000 rnds thru mine. I have the FDE with raised sights, threaded barrel and the Vortex Venom.. $399 free shipping and came with the PSA soft case. I Haven't had a single malfunction and love it more every time I shoot it. I wasn't a fan of the mag well cuts when I first got it, didn't like the look and thought it was excessive but I have to say , they don't affect my grip at all and they ARE the perfect size cutouts for grabbing the mag. I went into this gun as a bang around gun to shoot suppressed without any expectations of it replacing anything I already own. It is now in my lineup and when it's size is compatible with carrying it concealed with what I'm wearing I don't hesitate to carry it. I've been nothing but impressed with this gun regardless of price.

[@AtlasJotun]

Got mine in ODG with the threaded barrel, 2X-height AmeriGlo sights and the Noblex cut around Easter for $364. I sat on the fence for about 10 minutes too long and missed the Venom-equipped version FOR THE SAME PRICE (crying emoji). With a $128 TruGlo Micro it's still under $500. It's only been out to the range TWO whole times, for a whopping 250 rd. count. The trigger is starting to bug me and my brother detests it; I know this little gun will shoot wonderfully once I replace it. Still shoots pretty well, but the take-up is heavy and just... weird. That's my only complaint, but considering how many people replace their factory "Perfection" triggers anyways...

[@patrickg3872]

Second the original comment.

[@tyson1499]

What site did you use

[@ShinyLightzInTheSky]

@@tyson1499buy from them directly. Daily deals, good bundles, and cheaper prices then your local store

[@SnapD24]

So a cheaper copy of a Glock ends up feeling like a cheap copy of a Glock. Color me shocked. Always appreciate you bringin us the "what's what" though!

[@c10rich41]

Feels 10x better in hand than a glock. Watch other reviews and get one in your hand

[@treverdavis5881]

Nobody was doing Stryker guns until glock made it popular. Since then everybody has copied or made there own version. I havent seen a pistol copied so much. Maybe the cz 75 has more copies.

[@RGRundeRGRound]

@@treverdavis5881 nah. 1911 and Browning Hi-power have more copies but likely the CZ is third

[@jonathanrogers9961]

@Chris G I have had gen 3 glocks and have gen 4 and 5 glocks. I miss the old Melonite finish, but other than that they seem just fine to me.

[@jonboy9734]

@Chris G an ak will outshoot the shooter. They are plenty accurate.

[@michaelg457]

I like your mention of accuracy being hugely determined by ergonomics and overall contact points with a gun, and the mention of trigger pulls on a pistol vs rifle

[@stabbyronnie]

Yeah, but he's like 9'3" so his "ergos" are gonna be completely different than most.

[@danchristiebrandt5062]

I just got one of these at MSRP. I'm psyched! This guy gives great and honest reviews, keep it going!

[@warweaponx6629]

Love the effort PSA put into this. If I didn’t already have multiple copies of all generations of Glock I’d likely pick one up.

[@Niteshift36]

A year later, I bought one and I think they've fixed some of the issues. I got my Dagger for about $250 by buying the slide/barrel and frame separately. . My version is in FDE and had a threaded gold barrel (not my favorite). It is optics-ready (RMR cut) and has suppressor height sights. It has been 100% reliable and it's ridiculously accurate. I anticipated a terrible trigger. What I got was a meh trigger that, honestly, is a little better than my older Glock triggers. Frankly, if I had paid 450-500 for this gun, I wouldn't be disappointed. For the 250 I paid, I'm more than happy. It won't be my EDC gun. I mainly bought it for fun.

[@espapy]

I know this video is a year old but I just had to watch it again as I've been thinking of buying one . As usual, a very informative video. By the way FYI: PSA sells dagger out the door for $329 at the moment.

[@Matt-to1bi]

I bought a complete lower for 99$ and it came with a striped ar lower for free.

[@Jayjay-vs8np]

@@Matt-to1bi I bought 2 complete dagger lowers for 119.99 one regular and one full size today

[@DavidBrown-it9ig]

You are the most prolific firearm tester I have seen on KZbin to date. Great job!

[@calebw140]

I like how you give your perspective and then can see other perspectives as well

[@E1337N3SS]

About one month after this review, these are getting restocked pretty often on the PSA website for $300 or $350 for the cerakote versions. They're still selling out quickly, but we're talking a couple of hours vs the six minutes that you had to deal with when the review was originally written. I easily got one in FDE ordered by just checking the website after 4pm est. Haven't actually gotten it yet, so I can't comment on quality, but it seems the biggest complaint in these early reviews (very much deserved) was availability, which is starting to straighten itself out. Don't spend Glock money on these. It's supposed to be a $300 gun.

[@ripcurlreadiness8777]

Great review I got mine for $409 with a nice range bag , threaded barrel , mos dot cut w plate , supressor height steel night sights and 10 mags ( 5 -15rd & 5 /27 rd) and all the normal things you said. So for all that $409 I thought was a great deal. This was da of 9/5/2022.

[@rob6850]

Have you shot it?

[@codyklaas3729]

one proud Iowan, thank you for all the support/attention you bring to the shelter!

[@markwalton3982]

Your reviews rock! I have bought several guns based upon your reviews and have not been disappointed! You are one of the very few reviewers that I trust to give the real truth.

[@jeremylowe5449]

Just scrolled your videos looking for a breakdown of the gen5 glock that made an appearance in this review. Did I miss it and if so, would you mind posting the specs? Thanks for all that you do bro. The consistency of your unbiased and honest reviews make this channel my first stop before dropping money on a firearm.

[@ianwalker3144]

I got a blem with Docter cut for a red (green) dot for $300. In 2023 the trigger isn't bad, and once I got it zeroed it STACKS rounds in the target at 10 yds. The grip fits my hand better than a Glock, and the Dagger doesn't feel as slide heavy as a Glock. I'm very happy with mine, especially for the price.

[@nickloven6728]

As someone addicted to building p80's I'm far more excited about PSA tooling up to make glock parts!

[@leroyjenkins4811]

I built a few P80’s and I didn’t like them. The frames never felt like they were up to the same spec as Glock OEM. I’m pretty handy with precision tools and although I got them to work, I would never call them self defense reliable. P80 has had several batches of out of spec frames over the years and their QC varies wildly. While I totally and completely understand the benefit of an unserialized firearm a law abiding citizen can assemble from parts at home, it just never felt like the quality and reliably was there. My P80’s were strictly range toys and learning tools to teach me firearms engineering, so to speak.

[@tonyromano6220]

I bet.

[@diablo9799]

@@leroyjenkins4811 the v2 frames are consistent, I think the real problem is the rails

[@2manyhobbies76]

I agree! You can get a whole pistol for the cost of an aftermarket slide for your P80 build. Once PSA has all the bits in stock regularly, it will be the place to shop for building one.

[@nickloven6728]

@@leroyjenkins4811 guess im lucky, never had anything out of spec in the last couple builds ive made, and the glass filed nylon #6 that p80 uses is just as strong if not stronger than Glock poylmor IMO, never got my frames to flex. My p80's have always went bang, I've even replaced all my glock OEM frames with p80's and i carry them everyday and never looked.

[@johnnyhershberger6294]

Out of all the pistols I own, I wish they all felt like the grip that is on my TX22, fits my big mitts like a glove, as you mention on you first shots video. Thanks for the unbiased reviews you and the Mrs. do! Greatly appreciated!

[@clintleffingwell8129]

Completely agree. I think the TX22 is best overall deal on the gun market today; so much greatness in a gun that you are likely to shoot ALOT! I recommend them to everyone who will listen. As soon as I felt that grip, I knew I had scored an awesome gun.

[@jimmypacheco444]

The TX 22 feels like it was designed for my hand.

[@onefastr6]

Agreed. I love my TX22. It’s the only pistol I’ve ever owned that felt like an extension of my hand.

[@r.parker8299]

As always a through, in depth review and honest review. An interesting pistol but like you I don't think it is something I would rush out to purchase. 👏👍

[@billyhines2734]

I no this is an older video, but I just pick up a use psa dagger compact with night sights out the for 260.00. I already have mags at home so I thought it was a good deal. I just there’s not a bad reason the previous owner traded it in. I will update when I finally get to the range. Thank u for all you do. You guys are great.

[@israelcontreras5332]

As always….awesome honest review. Thanks for the review!

[@jamesvanhook84]

I bought one about a month ago. Yes you can get them as other have said when they list them from 3:30-4pm est every day. I bought the carry cuts model in grey for $349 and it’s been great! I did the $.25 trigger job on the internals and it totally smoothed the trigger out. I also decided to buy a Ranger Proof shoe for it. After installing it I decided to take it back out and return it as the drop safety was completely inoperable. The pull with the trigger was awesome but I didn’t like the fact that it disabled the drop safety. I told myself that I wasn’t going to wrap up a bunch of money in upgrades on a $350 pistol that’s basically a nightstand/travel weapon and it’s getting a olight and that’s it. I have been happy with it after 500rds. Instead of making the dagger something it’s not by changing a bunch of parts, I decided to keep it and also buy a Canik Tp9sfx for a range/comp pistol. Bottom line is it’s a good pistol especially for the price tag and you can get it for $300-$350. There’s no need to buy pay $500 for this thing and not sure why you would.

[@garakward6118]

I paid exactly 500 for it. It came with the cut slide and threaded barrel, as well as vortex venom. seemed like a good idea. It's with the FFL so we'll see.

[@danielmoua7724]

@@garakward6118 i thought about getting that one in ranger green in the near future here, let me know how it shoots and handle and would you use it as a edc gun

[@garakward6118]

@@danielmoua7724 I shot mine loved it. If still wouldn't use i as an EDC. My thinking around firearms is that there will always be lemons. Glock makes lemons. There are glocks leaving the factory that will not work. There are Daniel Defense and Bravo Company that are just not going to work. Every company will create duds. However the more expensive companies have higher denominators. 1/100000 glocks fail vs 1/1000 Daggers. For an every day carry gun the denominator matters, for a range/competition gun it just doesn't. If you really can't afford a higher priced gun, take it to the range. My understanding is if it's going to fail it will either be in first 100 rounds or in the thousands. So if you shoot your gun at the range and it likes your ammo and you don't run into any major problems it'll probably be good for you. Whatever you go with I hope it works and I hope it makes you happy.

[@Woodpusherpro]

@James VanHook what is the $0.25 trigger job?

[@jamesvanhook84]

@@Woodpusherpro basically polishing the metal parts of the trigger assemble and taking any sharp edges off of metal parts. Look up Glock trigger job here on YT and you will get a lot of examples. Easy cheap and fast way to get a smoother trigger

[@Quality_Guru]

Loving all of your content. I would like to recommend an The Honest Outlaw series of reviews titled “You can do better by spending a little bit more”. As an example what else can you consider if you spend an additional 100 dollars instead of getting the PSA Dagger.

[@newerest1]

great idea

[@c10rich41]

The dagger is a great gun and many of us waited years to get our hands on one. I'm buying another soon. Super accurate and wouldn't hesitate putting it against higher tier Gucci guns

[@calsol22]

@@c10rich41 are you saying you would put this up against a higher end gun because of the accuracy or you would just put this up against a Gucci gun because of value?

[@c10rich41]

@@calsol22 the grip alone beats out the glock. Palm swell is excellent. Accuracy. You're getting a gen3 glock but better imo. Get one in hand and go shoot it. No complaints from me. End of the day it's still a glock clone at 300 beans but I dig it.. Well exceeded my expectations.

[@RGRundeRGRound]

Current content notwithstanding, sounds like a great series, I have always used that exact theory (spend a little, get the best value) and it almost wyas works....

[@SetThaHookD]

Another Great Honest review Thanks We appreciate you!!!!

[@firefighting.responder]

Hello from Counsel Bluffs, and this is a great review of the Palmetto State Armory Dagger......

[@kdingo6596]

Thanks for the 1000 round review. Will you be doing a 1000 round review on the a Rex Delta Gen. 2?

[@dsan94]

I bought mine for 350 with the tritium sights. Love mine. It has run like a beast straight from the box with no cleaning or lube so far.

[@bryanswilik651]

Thank you Honest Outlaw for actually giving honest and truthful reviews. I watched several of that guy named Scooter Pants or Skippy, or something like that? He gives every firearm a good review, I have never heard him come out and say "thumbs down" on a pistol. If I owned a firearm company I would be happy to give old Scootie a free firearm and a bag of chips to review it because I would know it would be a great review! But you H.O. tell it like it is and that's called integrity. Thank You Again !

[@pcpolice7937]

Sootch00 says he will not post negative reviews of firearms he does not like. He just gives them back to the manufacturer and tells them what he does not like about them. I guess that is his right. I also like Honest Outlaw, but some of his criticisms are based solely on his HUGE hands. That’s like lefties criticizing a firearm because it’s built for righties

[@abewakim7726]

Thank you for your reviews sir . 🙏

[@dawsonweber99]

I can’t get over how much better the ergos are on the Dagger frame compared to both the Glock frames and the Polymer 80 frames.

[@danielblair6592]

For individuals. People with bigger hands hate the ergos because theres no modularity for the grip.

[@dawsonweber99]

@@danielblair6592 Duh?

[@RonnieBravo_]

I got my dagger with the foxtrot light, lightening cut slide with rmr cut for 313.99. Had a 6 dollar coupon. And I just put my Sig M18 with billet trigger, wilson grip, and Sig Romeo pro to rest for a while. I love this gun for EDC. I can't wait until the fullsize frames come out

[@reverendlowdown3982]

I see u took advantage of those great deals they have been running lately as well. I just got the bundle deal with the OD Green Dagger lower with a AR-15 stripped lower for $99. I also got the sw1 black rmr cut slide w/ DLC coated threaded barrel for $199 shipped. Those prices are so phenomenal I almost bought several.

[@hunterphille1280]

Thanks for your video on this. I'm very intrigued by the Dagger and it's price point. I'm considering picking one up to complement my Gen 4 G19

[@GaBiggunn]

Dude, love your reviews. Just bought a Taurus G3 due to your review. I love it. Would love to see you review the PSA 5.7 Rock.

[@DanielBoone337]

The price and the fact I'm not really a glock guy this isn't something I'll be actively looking to buy but I like the direction they're going at PSA... Maybe they'll come out with a Gen 2 and change my mind on that one... Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

I'm not a Glock guy, never owned one until I realized the Glock 19 was the most common. That meant in a SHTF scenario it would be the easiest to find (keeping your holster) as well as mags and of course ammo. Now I have one for each 72 hr kit I own and with my bugout bags.

[@DanielBoone337]

@@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor It's all about building a system you have confidence in... I don't really care about what I can find because I have a system built around guns I shoot the most/own meaning holsters/carriers, mags, lots of reloading gear/components and ammo... I live in the middle of no where's on about 15 acres, with a 5 acre pond, surrounded by about 25k acres of deer leases that I'm a member of. So if SHTF all I'm going to do is lock my gates, hunker down, and ride it out with family/friends that have camps at the deer leases up the road a couple miles... At least you have a game plan!! That's more then most people considering the amount of guns and ammo that's being sold lately a lot of people got caught with their pants down... Take care!!!

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

@@DanielBoone337 my great uncle, John Moses Browning, isn't the only one in my family who designs and builds guns and firearm accessories but he did such a good job that every firearms designer has had a hard time not using his designs even a century after he did most of them. I have helped build thousands of firearms and have personally made hundreds of holsters. I have loaded tens of thousands of rounds and sold millions of components. Now that we have both bragged about our background a little, and after refusing to get a Glock style pistol out of respect for my great uncle it is the most common and that says something. While I can make any firearm I want, and do. And I can make any caliber ammunition and do. If I were in a scenario trying to get home I would carry one of the most common tools just because it is one I'm more likely to find components for in that situation. I live in a very rural place but work in one of the largest cities in the U.S. The Glock style 19 was added to my kits not by any means the only model I have available to me or by any measure a favorite. My experience had made me consider redundancies and that includes what everyone else is doing. Good luck on your plan. I have a similar plan with several such properties in a couple different states.

[@DanielBoone337]

@@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor I guess you took that the wrong way buddy I'm not bragging the property I'm on I inherited, I have a membership on the deer leases because they're right up the road, and I like to hunt and I don't have any background other than being a welder/pipe fitter. LOL I'm just a guy that has a system built around being prepared is all... What I have on me or is at my home is what I got and is what my system is built around.... There's more then 1 way to skin a cat as they say...

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

@@DanielBoone337 I get you got that going for you and I sincerely hope it's never needed and if it is I also hope that works for you. My only intent was to elucidate things a little and at the very least get you to consider backup plans. Good luck and stay vigilant.

[@Ruger1022]

Totally appreciate your reviews they're great super informative. My question is for those of us that prefer Glocks but have smaller hands does this dagger help out any in the grip?

[@jbobby420]

I have smaller hands, like full-size pistols are about an inch longer than my hand. I love the compact grip on this thing.

[@2manyhobbies76]

Just ordered one from PSA at MSRP this morning. They had the model with night sights in stock as well. I have my preference in sights, so I'll likely replace them anyway and got the standard sights.

[@Tonious]

This thing actually came out? Wow, I'm surprised. Nice review mate.

[@scubaguy007]

Just like the Taurus G2C and G3C this is going to sell like fast, I hope they can keep them in stock.

[@defensedad]

Good review. For something that is supposed to be at $300 and compete with say the Taurus G3 it would probably be a good value. At $500? Well that is what I paid for my PPQ as well as my VP9 so it definitely wouldn't be in the running.

[@douglascuvillyed.s8211]

Agreed...waaay better guns in the $500 price range.

[@Swagmonkeyfan1306]

500 for a vp9? I could never find it that low. Lucky you

[@defensedad]

@@Swagmonkeyfan1306 it was before the rona panic buying started.

[@raytyre750]

I love your reviews. Those are sold for $300 everyday now. I'm not sure where you bought it for $500 but you got duped. The trigger is not great but we'll see how it does after a polish job. Mine fits my hand perfectly and the grip is outstanding in comparison to a Glock. It's a shame they didn't design the trigger guard to fit G19 holsters, but I have a feeling that will change in future models. Yes, time will tell but I believe it will be a best seller for the next few years.

[@WeencieRants]

I forgot about this gun, thanks for the upload!

[@lazygamer9725]

Palmetto got the grey in stock right now for $349 bossman. Love the vids you and wifey keep up the great work.

[@joshg4312]

My uncle bought 2 last week for MSRP, and ever since I've been seeing them in stock pretty consistently... Only bummer is the version with threaded barrel and suppressor sites has been rare and the rmr cut slides they promised at shot show hasn't been released yet at all

[@ThisFish888]

Just got my dagger, rmr slide , threaded barrel, and supressor sights, $399, trigger feels smooth, same long pull and mushy wall as my gen 5 mos but the daggers trigger is smoother and cleaner out of the factory, but still shit compared to a g 43 factory trigger. My only complaints, racking the slide it sound like nails on a chalkboard, serious metal grinding needs some moly or to break in and the slide fit to the frame is kinda crap, large gap at muzzle below the guide rod and it teeters front to back and twists side to side

[@CaveWyatt]

Terrific review! Somebody needs to do a “compare and contrast”/review of all the Gen 3 clones. Had a Gen 2 19 1995-08 and hated it. Got an Agency Syndicate last year and (mostly) like it, but pricey. Recently got a P80 PFC9 and absolutely love it, just a solid pistol right out of the box. To be honest I’m thinking about getting the PF9, too. So, including the Dagger in the list, we see big differences in the clones. It would be nice to compare more of the clones vs. the Brand-that-shall-not-be-named.

[@sofloflow]

For your second P80, you should try building it yourself. Sure is fun!

[@CaveWyatt]

@@sofloflow That’s what the Agency Syndicate was! Ordered it from Brownells and a few days later there it was on my door step, ready to cut and build. You’re right, very fun! And educational as I got to see that the P80 frame is as close to perfect as possible for my hand size. That’s why I bought the PFC9. And it’s freaking awesome, the one I want to pick up and shoot. The Syndicate has the tightest tolerance upper I’ve seen in any pistol but the trigger feels squishy to me (could be something I did wrong in assembly but a local gunsmith says it’s fine). Yes, I’d suggest everyone build a pistol.

[@samthefishmansnyder5851]

Sootch00 just did a compare video with the clones check it out

[@CaveWyatt]

@@samthefishmansnyder5851 I’ll take a look but…I don’t have the…confidence…in Sootch I once did.

[@RGRundeRGRound]

@@sofloflow 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good jab at his diminutive manhood 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TetelestaiAD33]

Ordered one about an hour ago at the $299 MSRP. Looking forward to adding it to the collection.

[@caseysmith1540]

As of march 2023 they are selling for $300 & up (for various models) in south Ga & i bout mine after watching your reviews & a few others first because i am not really a big glock fan sense I don’t have oversized hands & think this has a much better grip then the Glock G19 ever had. Thanks for the informative review & keep making great content. Me & my hole family (even my kids) like watching your videos.

[@DEValentine]

Bizarre that anyone would buy a PSA Dagger in the $500-600 range. Its entire reason for existing is the $300 sticker price. You can buy a Walther PDP Compact -- arguably best in class -- for $600.

[@unhingedhobbyist6722]

@TheMetalGuy852 their uppers are good for the money

[@unhingedhobbyist6722]

@TheMetalGuy852 maybe it was a bad batch? I have 2 of their uppers and both are running smoothly

[@thinman8621]

A year ago last spring I paid $300 for a Canik TP9SF with one magazine. canik has a great trigger, good sights, feels good in the hand and runs flawlessly.

[@murphykenji]

How much are additional magazines? Can you get Safariland ALS holsters for one? I'm not trying to be an ass, I legit want to have the conversation. I'm already drowning in Glock mags which are affordable and plentiful and honestly, if I can't get a good Safariland retention holster for something to go on my warbelt I kind of lose interest.

[@joeparker54]

@@murphykenji mags are hard to find - there's high demand and being based off the p99, Walther ppq and PDP owners have been known to poach them as well. That being said, amazing guns for the price

[@nadirthebottomrock6706]

I'll take a Glock over a Canik, but I'll take a Canik over a Glock clone any day. No other trigger for the price compares to a Canik trigger. GunMagWarehouse usually have Canik(Mecgar)mags in stock, and they're normally only 5-7 bucks over the price of a Glock mag. I also like the fact that the shitty kydex holster Canik ships with does the job, and it fits Glock 17, 19, 19x, 45's, and CZ P10 series pistols. Some people argue they can't support Canik because they're made in Turkey, yet they fill their homes and closets with Chinese crap while posting from their iPhones. Caniks are a win for me.

[@thinman8621]

@@nadirthebottomrock6706 I am amazed at the people who won't buy something from a country perceived to have a government unfriendly to America. Hell, I was born in America and much of my own country hates me. America's president wants to turn over firearms ownership policy to the UN, and the UN certainly doesn't care about America. Sheesh

[@chrisrice3551]

@@thinman8621 Amen also we are one of the worlds biggest problem in many ways masked as democracy..

[@allenc4909]

Good review; thanks!

[@theslaughterhouse7310]

Just found this review as I am considering the Dagger. As of 1/14/23 it is in stock in FDE with 10 mags and soft case for $370. I can't touch a used or PD Glock for less than $399 in my area.

[@R3dbudd]

Before the world fell apart the advertised a 2nd tier one that came with a threaded barrel and MOS cut. It's that one for me, never see any reviewers with one yet.

[@run-a-milekyle3835]

Ordered one with night sights. $329 plus tax and free shipping. I was looking for a backup gun under $400 for a little while. It being able to take my glock mags is a big plus.

[@tyson1499]

What site did u use

[@cliffordmurdock2407]

i seen that psa is selling the dagger complete lowers for 100 beans. been considering getting one & putting an optic ready slide on it. i really dont need another glock but for the price, its hard to not get one. thanks for the awesome & honest review. always look forward to your reviews for an honest opinion on guns. theres alot of sell outs doing reviews.

[@johnnycash3755]

Like always your reviews are detailed but addin pew pew so we don’t get bored and spot on. I’ve got medium sized hands so for the $300-$350 I’m ordering when available. The Glock compatibility saves me $$$ & trigger swaps cheap

[@moshpitscotty8043]

I just got one today $349.99 with night sights🤷🏻‍♂️

[@chrisb9478]

Until I handle 1 of these, shoot it & see how reliability is long term, I still like Canik the best for budget pistols. Ive got a TP9Elite SC with a 407k for my beater. Reliable & a great trigger.

[@waggy401]

Love my Canik

[@christiana8742]

Canik sc w red dot edc

[@murphykenji]

I get that people love their Canik's. But I don't especially endorse buying stuff from countries whose governments hate us, and keep in mind Glock and it's clones have nearly limitless selection and support for magazines/accessories/ holsters/ sights etc etc etc. The complete Dagger frames are going for a hun when they're in stock, the ergos are interesting. ...to be fair, Palmetto State Armory is in the United States, which also currently has a government that mostly hates us...

[@bruce5168]

@@murphykenji yes I agree, I started feeling the same way not to long ago. They love us when we're feeding them the money though.

[@joshw6212]

@@murphykenji So you're saying the Turkish government hates "us"...who is "us"? is "us" freedom loving gun owning Americans? Cause i could make a pretty good case that the current government of the United States hates "us"

[@markwalton3982]

Bought 4 of the $300 models in Dec 2021. They still frequently go out of stock but usually come right back into stock within a couple of days. Free shipping right now as well. My FFL charges $25/gun for transfers. $325 plus tax. I'm very happy. The grip texture is agressive so tends to abrade your skin so make sure your EDC CCW holster has a shield between your skin and the gun. Many but not all Glock 19 holsters will work with this gun. The main problem is the trigger guard shape.

[@albundy3867]

Fast forward 1year. Threaded barrel w/thread protector, suppressor height sites w/tritium front RMR cut slide and comes in FDE. My friend picked hers for $341.00 w/free shipping. Yes the trigger sucked, but thank you Timney for resolving that issue.

[@steveb6103]

What this shows is how overpriced Glocks are! If you put a good trigger in it. It's still cheaper then a Glock.

[@Mr.Bonez2Go]

If you put a glock trigger in it it will decrease the value lol jk I think I know what you mean

[@kamikaze253]

Glock just sells its name. There are alot of cheaper better glock clones

[@deathbymazda]

Yet the vast majority of gun tubers still carry Glock..

[@dylanwatkins1019]

It’s quality and reliability doesn’t compare to a Glock

[@NoNo_IStay]

@@kamikaze253 says the Brandon Herrera worshipper.

[@jordanjoestar8839]

I'd argue the APX Centurion would be the affordable clock clone. Yet it's built better out of the box for less than $400. Fully modular! I know you enjoyed the one you reviewed and I'd recommend one to anybody. More and more aftermarket and OEM mods day by day.

[@steimystein4368]

Quite happy with my $329 Centurion...

[@detroitvseverybody3813]

APX has a great trigger for a striker fired gun

[@georgevickers6752]

Totally agree man, I got my apx for 375.

[@Gojeto346]

They’re having a sale right now where I just picked up one with an RMR cut and a threaded barrel, plus a soft carry case and 5, 27 round mags and 5, 15 round mags all for under $500 cannot wait!

[@hawkeyeinthehouse2995]

I recently picked up on one that was slightly used with night sights for $250+tax in NC at the PSA store that is about 27 miles from Charlotte. I also picked up on some 9mm ammo at what I thought was a GOOD PRICE $24.95 for 100rds 124gr FMJ brass cased.🤔😉👍😁

[@Tron2pointOh]

Outlaw, you have to try the full size frame. A completely different experience and much better than the compact. Probably better than the 19x.

[@michaelearlgrey]

I think I was waiting for this in late 2019 but gave up after a year or rumors.

[@nytramtehgreat9562]

Anybody else get tricked by the Windows notification at 1:45? Really appreciate the review, it seems like an interesting alternative to some Caniks; I still think that I'd go for a Canik as a budget purchase though strictly because of their insane value.

[@bladerunner5810]

HO needs to revisit this. Just purchased a Dagger with RMR cut, threaded barrel for $299. PSA has packages with this same pistol, 10 15 round magazines and a soft case for $409.

[@cb.7814]

I have the hinged trigger on my M&P m2.0. I'm ok with it. It took some getting used to keeping my finger high up. It's just one more variable. Not a great idea overall in my opinion

[@lazygamer9725]

Triggers I've never cared about I usually change them out anyway

[@e7tegt503]

I was ok with mine too. Put an apex daek in it though. Not the forward set kit. Left all the stock springs too. So trigger pull is light. It’s quite good. The PDP might be as good. Never compared them side by side. But other than that nothing compares. It’s my favorite plastic gun. Low bore axis + excellent trigger = cheat code for shooting.

[@IronHonkey]

I'm confused why no one hasn't just waited till the dagger is in stock at PSA and have it sent to your local shop. You'd be out $330 for this gun and if you are on their mailing list they restock about every other week.

[@lordpeekaboo]

Aug 2023. $339 with 10- 15rd mags and bag. So far, I've put about 150rds through it and got dialed in, but the trigger is not great. (and I've been carrying a Gen1 M&P Sheild for years) Anyway, it is an easy fix and I am happy with the purchase.

[@brethatch2244]

Time stamp: sept 2023. This same model can easily be had for less than 300 beans. I purchased one complete frame ("lower") for 75 to FFL(25 IN FFL fee) and a complete slide and 2 15rnd mags for 188 to my door. Ordered a 18 buick light from scamazon and its just gonna be the bedside bump in the night piece. I dont have Frankenstein hands but im also not a glock guy (glock ergos, cant stand them) so im giving this a try, already loving it

[@loski1955]

Are these beans you speak of sort of like peas or humus ? WTF

[@jameserickson2523]

Sad you are comparing a 300.00 gun to a 600.00 gun. I love my 400.00 gun with 10 magazines (5-15 round 5-27 round magazines) rmr cut slide and thread barrel) better than my 600.00 glock

[@DownD.Hole92]

I build a dagger for under 300 recently. Just waited for sales and it was roughly 280.

[@chesslover8829]

Notice that Honest Outlaw said he wouldn't keep this gun. I think that statement alone speaks volumes about the Dagger 9. Most likely, you're going to spend thousands of dollars on ammo, so it might make sense to buy a quality gun that you really want to own rather than focusing on the cost of the firearm itself.

[@chesslover8829]

@H K You make an excellent point. The Glocks I've seen that look and feel great have been fully customized with a new trigger, front and rear sights, and guide rod, plus slide and frame work, all of which can add $1,500 to $2,000 to the cost of the pistol. That's way out of my league.

[@aldousorwell3807]

Most people who will buy this gun are too broke to afford thousands of rounds of ammo, don't care much about training, and are gonna shoot it twice then throw it in their glove box and forget that it exists.

[@chesslover8829]

@@aldousorwell3807 I think you're absolutely correct.

[@johnnycash3755]

I respectfully disagree.. he has extra large hands that’s why he’s not keeping it. Medium sized hand shooters will love this gun. I’ll be ordering soon since accepts all my existing Glock mags.. worst case I replace with Glock trigger.. still saving ton of $$$ and all my gear still matches up 💪🇺🇸

[@ohgr8thatguy]

Bought a complete dagger slide with suppressor sights, rmr cut, and threaded barrel with barrel nut for $200. Fit perfectly on my polymer 80 lower. I was able to budget build a complete clone under $320 before ship and government touch.

[@sofloflow]

Ordered the upper for my P80. $200 after shipping & taxes for a complete slide with suppressor hight night sights & an RMR cut, couldn't help myself. My Faxon barrel cost me the same lol.

[@MrHav1k]

Who the hell is selling this for $500+? I saw it on the PSA website the other day for exactly $300 on the dot for the standard model and $350 for the version with night sights.

[@gunner4373]

This might be one of your only reviews I have a lot of disagreement with, but I have medium hands. I find the fit and finish, ergonomics and refinements in this to be extremely superior to any Glock or any other Glock clone I've ever owned or shot. Absolutely superb texture, rounding, grip flare, mag release, etc. Hands down the best Glock lower ever made. Trigger is shit, but fixed on my copies now.

[@CrashRacknShoot]

Came back to this review after putting about 1000 rounds myself on one I picked up a couple months ago. I agree with you. I dig his reviews, but he had a real biased bug up his ass on this one. Everything about it runs perfectly. I reload and have put everything from screaming hot to powder puff loads through it, *trying* to make it malfunction, and it ate all of it without a single stutter. It feels great, points great, and after so many rounds and even more dry firing, the trigger is more than functional. Zero failures after 1000+, and I can group double taps in under 2 inches at 10-15 yards. It's my new carry gun.

[@thriwaway7865]

What did you do about the trigger? Looking to get one of these and have become overly spoiled to my Canik trigger 😅

[@CrashRacknShoot]

@@thriwaway7865 fire it. It smooths out. It also doesn't hurt to just make sure you're accustomed to each gun you own. Everyone puts way too much stock in a good trigger. You can be a damn good shot with anything if you become familiar with it.

[@thriwaway7865]

@@CrashRacknShoot thanks for the advice! I usually stick with all oem parts and just get used to it, but my first gun was a canik so I was spoiled from the jump 😬 happy shootin friend! 🤠

[@CrashRacknShoot]

@@thriwaway7865 I should mention I'm in a very similar boat. 1911s, CZs, Caniks, all before I got a dagger. Was never in short supply of quality firearms. But the things the dagger has going for it is reliability and inexpensive. These are good things for me because a cheap, reliable gun is exactly what I want for a carry piece. Why? Because should you have to use it in a defensive situation, it'll be in lockup for 1-2 years (at least in my area) while the case gets sorted out. I don't want a safe queen being in some shitty police "storage" for that long. It'll get beat up, rusted, all that. Id rather have something where I dont mind it taking that abuse. So instead, I got really good with a dagger. I got 1000 rounds through mine now, and I can print very tight groups well past self defense distances simply from trying. I now have full confidence in it keeping me safe and at a great price point. A "meh" trigger also gets you *very* good with your other guns, so there is a lot of benefit to it. If you're thinking on one, go for it, my guy.

[@guevotes1]

Hello from iowa city loved your videos

[@MrThejunkman]

PSA Dagger Full-Size on their website with 10 mags for $380 right now, you can grab the compact with a threaded barrel as well