Dragon Ball fans will never beat the "didn't read the manga or watch the anime" allegations.
@CutWat4 ай бұрын
i cant read the manga but i watched the anime
@larrylobster91744 ай бұрын
@@CutWatyou can read it on illegal websites technically but be aware of the porn ads 😂
@sideman2364 ай бұрын
@@larrylobster9174even better 😹
@sideman2364 ай бұрын
This statement is so true Still can remember a popular yt channel the guy and his buddy was saying how did Zamasu beat goku to take his body when Zamasu literally wish to switch bodies 😭
@Zikuto_4 ай бұрын
Most of em never will
@Sonamous474 ай бұрын
It will never stop. This is the first community to have multiple forms of bullshit hot takes. I am impressed.
@Generalmituna80794 ай бұрын
One Piece and Jujutsu Kaisen are pretty close, the amount of horrendous takes I've seen from those fandoms is insane.
@AnimationsStudioza4 ай бұрын
@@Generalmituna8079fr like Sukuna > ryu Ishiguro
@thatngafr4 ай бұрын
@@AnimationsStudiozagrass is green take?
@LeFilmMatrice1012 ай бұрын
Hot takes and Lukewarm personality. Sums up DB community.
@user-ou5ls2xc7v4 ай бұрын
I’ve always had the opinion that Stephanie’s voice works better for Goku and Colleen’s is better for Gohan. I continue to be correct.
@sigmamale30474 ай бұрын
Only correct answer
@someguywithacoconut98954 ай бұрын
@@user-ou5ls2xc7v I agree. Stephanie and Colleen aren’t bad, and I think the roughness in Stephanie’s voice works better for Goku, being a bit of a hick, but I didn’t really like it much for Gohan personally. Meanwhile, the softness in Colleen’s voice matched Gohans soft spokenness, but didn’t really work when she voiced Goku.
@johnredden7434 ай бұрын
IMO Stephanie was better for Goku while Colleen is better for Gohan considering their age gaps
@AlphaAngelX74 ай бұрын
I thought this exact thing
@yeahman69074 ай бұрын
I think what the guy was trying to get at when he said “goten is a failed Gohan” is that when Goku died, Gohan had to fill the main character role. Which then meant that Gohan’s role opened up and Toriyama made Goten. (Imo it could’ve just been Trunks to fill that role but anyway) Since Gohan couldn’t fill the role of main character, Toriyama brought back Goku and that shoved Gohan back into his place, and shoved Goten off of any pedestal. It wasn’t that Goten was a failed Gohan, it’s more that Gohan was a failed Goku.
@raidenpainn15614 ай бұрын
Ah, so when Gogeta is put into a Vegito situation then y'all raise you're pitchforks. I see you
@JonathanBrown6234 ай бұрын
I think Colleen is decent as Kid Gohan but as Kid Goku yeah I’m 100% taking Stephanie Nadoly over Colleen
@rogersbryant15074 ай бұрын
Agreed
@johnlee44124 ай бұрын
The first take is a pretty common one. It mirrors real life. How many kids did you know in achool that sucked at math but knew everything there is know about basketball or football? They hate and suck at history but could tell you every Dragon Ball event in detail and the reasons behind them. Majority of people aren't stupid, they know and care about what they are interested in. Goku was always more interested in fighting than anything else besides eating.
@kingtez94944 ай бұрын
Yeah but if they lack to hard like goku does in basic knowledge they are still stupid no matter how smart they are on some other subject. Say a kid was born a genius painter but because of that neglected all other subjects and now can't read he is famous and rich and unmatched in his field but still an illerate idiot just how it is
@jovonn83034 ай бұрын
Just to be clear. vegeta 100% unlocked grade 3. cell says specifically that vegeta does but hes a better fighter and knows it would not work. but that does beg the question why he didnt use it during the final flash
@condorgaming40004 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure he did. As he was charging the final flash his muscles started bulking up dramatically
@UniCops7 күн бұрын
@@condorgaming4000 The only time Grade 3 would be advantageous, ye
@HahaBuu-Bmore4 ай бұрын
Did that one guy say "Tsunade-like" actions haha
@kunalpatel11474 ай бұрын
What does that even mean?
@thatflyguykai2 ай бұрын
Popping into this a month late but I assume he meant to say "tsundere"
@randomrave66354 ай бұрын
4:05 no bro you dont get it, its significantly worse than you think it is. Gogeta at this point has been established to have control over postive energy so much that it could be used as a seek and destroy for negative energy. At any point he couldve just killed omega AND revert the worlds negative energy. But for some reason he just acted like gotenks. IM A GT FAN BUT SSJ4 GOGETA IS NOT THE GOATGETA 😭😭
@TSO_Sage4 ай бұрын
yea i watched it recently but not with my “well actually!!” glasses on lmaoo so if this is the case yea it’s worse
@randomrave66354 ай бұрын
@@TSO_Sagemb gng I'm also a gogeta fan so I see that shit more clearly 🙏
@ethanhansen14794 ай бұрын
Idk if this is a hot take but I love the gohan and goten relationship when they are training for the tournament. I enjoy the whole time they were training videl. It was nice to see gohan and goten having a brother relationship
@caffreydavis2184 ай бұрын
8:30 I'm pretty sure they've explored the MUI mastery concept further in Dragon Ball Super Manga, especially in the Moro Arc.
@Tsuna_Dokkan4 ай бұрын
5:32 TECHNICALLY The last fight in the “Dragon Ball Z” name is the Resurrection F movie, where the villain is Frieza
@DonqualJordan4 ай бұрын
W video brotha and thank you for making me more knowledgeable about Dragonball I appreciate it
@caffreydavis2184 ай бұрын
6:11 Pretty sure they did this with Bardock's story, Broly's story, and Frieza's story - all correlate to the saiyan storyline. I somewhat agree with this take atelast.
@Someguynamedgokan4 ай бұрын
You know what? When a fusion character are in a movie they would get a W (excluding gotenks since he's a gag) but when it was in a series they would lose
@lux36644 ай бұрын
I like vegito better but they won’t let him win lmao
@lux36644 ай бұрын
That vegeta personality too strong wit that one
@RevolutionaryUsername4 ай бұрын
Yeah comparing Gogeta and Vegito is unfair. Im pretty sure Vegito would’ve gotten an easy dub in a movie. But in an arc, I feel like the writers see fusions as an easy way out and try to get them off the table ASAP.
@Someguynamedgokan4 ай бұрын
@@RevolutionaryUsername right!? And they would always use an excuse of why they didn't manage to win. I swear if the role was swapped vegito would get a win
@RevolutionaryUsername4 ай бұрын
@@Someguynamedgokan I totally agree with the writers on that. As much as I’m conflicted about the Zamasu endings, just having it all end with Vegito dogpiling on Zamasu would be so underwhelming because it doesn’t fit narratively. As weird of an ending as it was, having Zamasu win and thrive in his nihilistic dystopia was a much better ending. It felt like one of the few times the Z warriors genuinely lost their plot armor. Contrast that with Broly which is a much simpler more self-contained story that had a very satisfying payoff by having a fusion kick ass. People need to keep context in mind. Plus it’s a Gogeta post ToP too.
@randomrave66354 ай бұрын
1:58 I mean the thing is, when im playing sparking zero and im playing gt goku all Im gonna hear is luffy in my ears 😭
@NappaDZ4 ай бұрын
Hopefully they'll get Stephanie back to do kid gokus voice for it
@NexalZita4 ай бұрын
16:05 That was the different between Vegeta and Trunks...Trunks was green when it comes to fights and even Gohan thought it was the next level but Goku pointed out the flaw...you think Vegeta wouldnt have figure that out. Now had Vegeta actually trained Trunks in the time chamber they couldve gone SSJ2 probably faster since Goku was focusing on getting Gohan super sayian
@TheGrinder_274 ай бұрын
I like this videos cause you eleborate and show a good side of critical thinking. Just to explain with what I said in your video I was saying exploring more into the Saiyan race/ galaxy would be cool (end with Goku and Frieza fight). I think it would progress every character, have a way better plot relevance, but essentially it’s just repositioning the arcs. Let’s say Z would’ve been Saiyan saga, androids saga, buu saga, and then frieza saga although it just occurs while finding out about saiyans and going up against this guy who is also afraid of majon buu. Say goku beats all of them with no transformations except maybe kaioken but when he fights frieza then ssj is introduced into the story. Just helps with people whining about transformation bloat, power level going haywire, and it keeps everyone in the cast relevant of achieving new skills or power
@Lokoclutch984 ай бұрын
1:35 goku is not nore so on his battle knowledge, but his experience as well as his instinct. Them sayian genes go crazy
@neo844014 ай бұрын
The first hot take: we don't talk about gt goku vs super Android 17
@BR0zaruSSJ44 ай бұрын
0:34 all I ask as a Dragon Ball fan is just make Goku have social knowledge like he’s been alive for 50 whole years. He’s only been a monkey boy for like 13 years then later when he turned 17 or 19 he was already in the city he married Chi-Chi it’s just weird to me on how he’s not an airhead but it’s weird he’s just like doesn’t know anything
@Chaos_Vergil4 ай бұрын
1:43 I absolutely agree with this take. I also would like to add to what they said about Colleen not being bad at her job. I'd say her biggest issue is that she wasn't given strong enough direction with her voice acting on Kid Goku and Kid Gohan. Not to say that she was bad at voicing the characters, but she could've done much better. In fact, she has done better with other characters. Her Luffy is just as good as, if not better than, Luffy's Japanese VA at voicing the character. Colleen's Jet Gatling is one of the rawest moments I've seen in any anime and it gets me every time I watch it.
@ajirionowutu1124 ай бұрын
Sage makes me feel dumb just cuz he knows how to explain most of the things i agree with very well
@9xFalse4 ай бұрын
5:25 honestly the part i agree with bc i think frieza lowkey shoulda been the final boss but we also see him in the first ep fighting bardock and shi
@K.A.Riley094 күн бұрын
Erm ackshually RoF is officially called Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F so technically Frieza is the final boss ☝️🤓
@stardestroyer192 ай бұрын
Piccolo having a kid just to merge with him is diabolical 😭
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb4 ай бұрын
Love ❤️ the Baby Gohan vs Vegeta fight
@DKS_hli4 ай бұрын
Love the contact man and your hilarious
@Pharese004 ай бұрын
Apparently, a very small group of people think that Gotenks is a full blooded Saiyan, despite him being a fusion between two hybrid saiyans. I want to believe it’s a troll, but I’ve seen it twice now in the last two days and I’m truly concerned.
@Comictale90014 ай бұрын
Good lord.
@Pharese004 ай бұрын
@@Comictale9001 facts
@thefallen22204 ай бұрын
The math aint mathing
@Pharese004 ай бұрын
@@thefallen2220 yesterday in the TikTok comment section, someone tried to argue that Goten is 3/4 Saiyan thus he had more potential than Gohan 🤦🏾♂️ I seriously don’t understand how they did that Math
@thefallen22204 ай бұрын
@@Pharese00 good lord do they think he is Gohans kid?💀
@SavantPete4 ай бұрын
In Gowasu's defense, an evil Kai is rare and he thought he just needed time
@RevolutionaryUsername4 ай бұрын
Masako is better than Sean at making inflictions. There are so many scenes where sub Goku sounds cheeky but dub Goku makes him sound loud and dumb. Sean is better in the action though, no debate.
@richborn67004 ай бұрын
No a shitty British KZbinr is NOT a better VA than a trained professional. Masako has done irreversible damage to Goku as a character
@pric3lessl0s3r54 ай бұрын
Yeah true
@MarioSonicBee4 ай бұрын
To expand on my point a bit more about SSJ3, I 100% agree with your take on my hot take lol. I definitely agree Carthu has changed the minds of many about SSJ3 and I’m no where near saying it’s the best written form of all time in the series, I just feel like to call it bad when Rage or Bluer exists is crazy. Plus I still hold by the fact it’s good for Goku and Vegeta’s character
@richborn67004 ай бұрын
Zeon and Aggro said it best. If you have a problem Super Saiyan 3 can't handle in 5 min, you aren't gonna solve the problem with just SSJ
@RGNGMN4 ай бұрын
I've always- ALWAYS, view SS4 Gogeta as a nice reference to Sun Wukong incarnate for DBGT. Think about it: the constant trolling, the goofy antics and the clones were reason enough for me- and he's in SS4, and what does that form resemble? A. Monkey. It just made the most sense to me.
@dontsleep50424 ай бұрын
Maybe not 300 episodes but AOT story was about titans the whole time while also being about other things that tied in and you didn’t get the full titan pay off till the last season
@JSU_Tbone20084 ай бұрын
Can we not act like goten is held back from reaching his potential (chichi). Anytime he hears his dad is going to train, he is expressing his desire to go with him. Almost every scene he's in he is talking about helping fight of training with Trunks. He has just as much if not more potential than Gohan.
@dominiquerobinson88884 ай бұрын
He definitely doesn’t lol. If he had more potential than Gohan of all people, Goku, Piccolo, or someone would’ve took note of it
@_WiZ4204 ай бұрын
Also Sub vs Dub be the worst debates to deal with in any way, as there is no understanding of a language quite like a first lingual interpretation.
@A_DecentGamer4 ай бұрын
I like super sayain 3, but honestly the fact that they had to state that it is more inefficient then the god forms and that it just sucks was what killed it. It looked cool and had a good idea, but instead of calling the form insufficient, they could have just wrote it as “Goku just learned it so he hadsnt fully mastered the form”, that would have made more sense and honestly wouldn’t have killed off the form the way it did. 16:31
@KigerrTLON4 ай бұрын
The special techniques in all of dragon Ball (z or super) are nowhere near as explored as they should be. There are definitely some interesting ones like kaioken or evil containment wave, but a lot of them we see once or twice during a season and never again besides one call back in super for each. The funniest one is Gohan with the masenko; his father uses the Kamehameha and Gohan can use it too, his teacher uses special beam cannon so.... Where did masenko come from? 😅
@TG_5514 ай бұрын
I don't the Vegeta hate just cause some is shown something doesn't mean they will change and do it. Some people take a long time to chance
@nani42494 ай бұрын
I feel like vegeta can only be a character in dragon ball because imagine if zuko from avatar had gotten half the cast killed and still wantec forgiveness. Vegeta actions make sense to his character and the world he is in since the dragon balls neg any consequences that we wouldn't be a good guy in any anime
@LivsMacy4 ай бұрын
I did hear Goten is having his own movie so you should watch it
@KonEl174 ай бұрын
SSJ3 AND SSJ God both needed to be expanded on instead of thrown away.
@wwalton4 ай бұрын
The only time Colleen didn't match Stephanie was her initial take on Teen Gohan in Kai that's it also i doubt you'll see this one comment in particular but Colleen is actually Luffy as well
@Bbbraelyn3 ай бұрын
Bro ui is martial art technique 12:59
@TrixSony4 ай бұрын
He's never beating the Goten allegations. 😂
@KXA234 ай бұрын
7:27 zamasu himself would’ve been in the right if he just changed what he was training for and becoming a god of destruction💀💀💀
@hueyfreeman90944 ай бұрын
Man, db fans love to hate vegeta.
@עוזקרסנטי3 ай бұрын
the character with the most potential is pan the youngest super saiyan was pan in the super saiyan god transformation not goten in the buu saga picoolo says "you have more potential than gohan in your age"
@NotQuis4 ай бұрын
15:15 Finally somebody standing up for Vegeta and understanding WHY he’s the way he is. He’s a pure blooded SAIYAN and thats all he knows.
@Spectrum01222 ай бұрын
Gonna be that guy and say martial arts is literally just fighting. Which goku finishes enemies with a blast, it's still a martial arts technique. It's like saying naruto only wins cuz he uses jutsu and doesn't box
@sleepy51202 ай бұрын
SSJ 3 died for me with super, it’s cool AF in the OG art style and the one scene in TOP
@SavantPete4 ай бұрын
I swear bad hot takes are infinite
@Elohe-i8k4 ай бұрын
Going further on your Gowasu/Zamasu take, imagine if Gowasu saw that Zamasu was obsessed with Goku, then they used the time rings to watch the entire story of Dragon Ball. Then Zamasu comes to the conclusion that Goku is actually pretty selfish at times, and the fact that someone like that is praised as being a “good” mortal would eventually turn him over the edge. Imo it would create a stronger connection to the main antagonist, and he’d be able to call out his selfishness, and would push Goku to introspection.
@R0s34564 ай бұрын
Sage's take on the take makes no sense because kais literally watch over the entire universe seeing all mortals. They definitely have seen less savory mortals, even beerus isn't fond of some like the dinosaurs of earth and saiyans. So gowasu wouldn't really have convinced zamasu without actually discussing the psychologically of being a mortal
@MisterID-t2t4 ай бұрын
Gowasu coulda showed him the universe 6 saiyans or the yardratian
@spartancypher64124 ай бұрын
Goku does use martial arts to defeat his enemies but in ways that’s not just punching and kicking the cell saga is the best showing of this especially in the comparison between him and vegeta and how they train goku understand a need for balance when it comes to the super saiyan forms and an need to rest after intense training a lesson vegeta doesn’t get
@_WiZ4204 ай бұрын
I feel like a universal law of some sort should be imposed for the English language, where if you say “potential” in context to someone having it, you must then follow it with “for ___”. I have realized that half of you don’t even know what type of potential you’re talking about anymore😂😭
@Comictale90014 ай бұрын
Me: im as dumb as goku: Me in a fight: shit now I wish I was as dumb* as Goku 💀
@Unknown-bt5lk4 ай бұрын
11:11 nah I have to disagree vegeta didn’t even need the great ape form I’m not even sure y he used it after using kaio-Ken x4 goku’s body was heavily damaged and fatigued a slap on a back from yajirobe was enough to cause goku severe pain if gohan and krillin didn’t intervene goku would’ve been dead
@Samu_ETX4 ай бұрын
How do I get access to the discord? The link in the description of all your videos is expired 😅
@kingtez94944 ай бұрын
I see what u mean with how super saiyan 3 used to be loved since i love the form visually and the to go even furhter beyond but i do beleive it shouldn't exist cuz with every second it exist now it increases how ass it is now not a single canon dub to its name and now it died out obsolete and useless
@eranshachar99544 ай бұрын
Battle genius? It's not like didn't make mistakes in his battles excuse me. Most of the time he is smart in battle I admit but not perfect. Now look I love the Boo arc but I think it was not necessary. The show could've ended after Cell not after Freeza. I still to this day, hate the Saiyan prince to the depths of my soul. I can never forget the bad things he has done and focus on them. In the Boo arc alone he murdered 300 innocent people in cold blood (the manga gives us this number to be clear). No Piccoro can't get old, you are forgetting his father asked for eternal youth so he has it too. He just didn't want kids. YES! Someone agree with me about Goten love it! Rage is probably equivalent for SSJ3 for Trunks since he can't have real SSJ3. Still- FUCK THIS FORM!
@dominiquerobinson88884 ай бұрын
Piccolo can still get older lol. We seen how he grew up in Dragonball. King piccolo just ask for his youth to be restored
@eranshachar99544 ай бұрын
@@dominiquerobinson8888 I didn't mean mentally. I meant physically, Demon King Piccoro said that he delivers all of his knowledge, powers and abilities to his final son. Which includes eternal youth. It means he will never look like Kami, Guru and Muri.
@dominiquerobinson88884 ай бұрын
@@eranshachar9954 I’m saying we saw him physically grow older from the baby to a kid then into an adolescent in Dragonball
@eranshachar99544 ай бұрын
@@dominiquerobinson8888 Yeah I get it and he didn't grow further to be old, because of eternal youth.
@someguywithacoconut98954 ай бұрын
To be fair to the Japanese Voice for Goku being “bad”, their voice actor is in their 90s I think. Sean is literally a lifetime younger, so he can pull of those voice acting strains like the screams objectively better than Nozawa can. I will say for me, I think Sean’s voice for Goku has actually gotten a little bit worse over time, starting I think since around the Battle of Gods movie. It just sounds either too high pitch and goofy, or when he’s doing the angry screaming, just cracking completely and not even sounding like Goku anymore. I guess that’s MY hot take.
@Generalmituna80794 ай бұрын
Sean's Goku voice sounds the exact same to me or maybe my hearing isn't that good.
@Melly_Wayy4 ай бұрын
Ultra instinct still some bs
@thegodshinto17354 ай бұрын
5:26 so demon slayer
@kuma60204 ай бұрын
Piccolo he can bag Pam’s teacher
@KonEl174 ай бұрын
Vegeta is a F*k head but the biggest problem is after his crash out when Trunks died just defending his son and even apologizing to Gohan. In Buu saga vegeta tantrum should not had been a thing walking back the progress he made completely.
@kiddxxjero4 ай бұрын
Yurrrrrrrrrrrrrr we here 🦦
@alatusedits4 ай бұрын
Vegeta carries Dragon Ball
@Louis_Guiabern4 ай бұрын
No he doesn’t
@hueyfreeman90944 ай бұрын
He doesn't carry, but he's a pillar, that gets hate for some reason
@alatusedits4 ай бұрын
@@Louis_Guiabern he does in terms of writing
@Louis_Guiabern4 ай бұрын
@@alatusedits not really since characters like Goku and piccolo have had good writing
@alatusedits4 ай бұрын
@@Louis_Guiabern piccolo's was rushed. Vegeta's arc spanned across 4 arcs and was far more natural
@976-Akuma4 ай бұрын
Dragon ball super could of done better
@endu2fine4 ай бұрын
I fw the manga
@RandomYnontheinternet4 ай бұрын
True
@thelordofthewest77814 ай бұрын
Ice cold take
@Rockdbzhero4 ай бұрын
Y’all only like trunks because of future trunks I’m tired of the hate
@DarksideGmss05134 ай бұрын
I dunno if this is a hot take or not but OG Dragon Ball is better than Z, Super and GT combined
@AgentVenom954 ай бұрын
I like Colleen Clinkenbeard as Kid Gohan, but not for Kid Goku. That's just me. Her female characters she voices are 🔥🔥 and including her voicing Luffy
@santiagoespinoza-tellez4 ай бұрын
Ngl rewatching the GT sparking zero trailer I can see differences in her Goku and Gohan. She plays Goku a lot more enthusiastically and upbeat. As where Gohan she plays him a lot more calmly and innocent
@marioguy234 ай бұрын
dubbed luffy can be peak cringe. u have a great hot take for one piece. gg
@AnimationsStudioza4 ай бұрын
Crazy
@da_real_toodle4 ай бұрын
tso_sage is underrated
@AnimationsStudioza4 ай бұрын
115k subs is alot tho
@da_real_toodle4 ай бұрын
@@AnimationsStudioza I think he should have 2m
@twill40844 ай бұрын
Not winning by “martial arts” is such a dumb take, apply that to any other show Naruto doesn’t win by outsmarting or being a better fighter, not even Luffy didn’t outsmart anybody, that’s a crazy nitpick
@ijn24774 ай бұрын
All of them use clever tricks to win wdym
@twill40844 ай бұрын
@@ijn2477 like what
@ijn24774 ай бұрын
@@twill4084 luffy using water against crocodile his move against Enel punching the wall and it ricochet to hit him
@DarksideGmss05134 ай бұрын
In the case of Naruto a lot of those clever tricks are just hax. @@ijn2477
@jfizzle16883 ай бұрын
@@twill4084and tbh the way Naruto uses his shadow clones outsmarts a lotta ppl
@Unx-00133 ай бұрын
Gogeta over vegito can’t blame gogeta for not having a true opponent
@arkkon27404 ай бұрын
Also quick hot take Sean as Goku is honestly kinda overrated Besides the fact that the audio leaks made me hate him more than I do, his voice execution of Goku is too unbalanced. He's always loud, he's obnoxious, the writing of the dub is kinda grating, and he's always leaning on hulk level angry in a situation where he's in a situation of focus. Dub goku to me is how people treated early series Asta, and Im forever glad that funimation is gone because they kept him around for thr nostalgia factor and not because he's that good of a VA
@RysGameZ4 ай бұрын
Beans
@MrDark-fm3vr3 ай бұрын
Sorry my guy goku is not a fighting genius if he was he would have best freiza because freiza had no skill or trained a day in his life would have beat most of all characters period based on skill with no power increase but yet in z or even super no one can show goku win a fight with out a power up to get higher power level then the opponent dragon ball z has nothing to do with skills only I get new transformation I can eat a strong bad guy that's all dragon ball z is and super is the 10 time worse version of that period
@s.o.s.pnaruto95234 ай бұрын
Sean's Goku is good and he made him his Own character but original Ocean Dub Goku is the best one hands down. Sean is so conceded he didn't want the original voice actor to come back and voice Goku Black. Which in my opinion would've been a wayyyyy better evil Goku. 😅😅
@arkkon27404 ай бұрын
Im sticking to Goku just being an average fighter in the grand scope of things Like what do we *see* out of goku that tells you "oh yeah, he's like that", what about anyone he's fought actually? Kid goku's gags revolve around beating conventionally skilled fighters with just raw strength, roshi's school revolves around strength training rather than showing off actual martial arts techniques. If you dont include super powers and just made Roshi some guy who's really disceplined, he's really just not shit, and including powers still doesn't make him shit because Goku being stronger almost threw off his entire lesson about discipline, and he would be proven wrong because hes a bad teacher and not that good without a high power difference. Literally everything we've seen him accomplish was from his strength and not his skill. People absolutely LOVE to say DB is a high BIQ verse when we dont actually see that, and these mfs love being spoon fed to the point where they'd take a narrator saying "He's really skilled" as enough. Its unsatisfying and lazy on a narrative level, and frankly you can throw in some randoms off of modern day fictional action media and they'd be as skilled as Goku, all because WE DONT SEE SKILLFUL SHIT, JUST FLASHY SHIT
@bladysante29034 ай бұрын
My God you’re delusional but keep yapping I guess
@lookatcurryman59744 ай бұрын
Just felt like yapping today huh? Musta not watched the video, you’re contributing to the “dbz fans don’t watch or read their own series” stereotype🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤡
@arkkon27404 ай бұрын
@@lookatcurryman5974 "You musta not watched the video" you mustn'ta either cause AINT NO ONE SAID SHIT TO PROVE THEIR POINT 🗣🗣
@pric3lessl0s3r54 ай бұрын
So are you going by the stance Goku has pretty much no level of actual martial skill? Statements are still a way of measuring feats, just because you don't see it doesn't always mean it's not there. Sounds like a nitpick personally because martial arts in fiction is pretty much whatever the writer wants it to be. Many other martial artist just straight up do superhuman things but call it "Martial arts" Yujiro, Garou etc. You don't realise martial arts isn't just what we see irl when it comes to fiction.
@pric3lessl0s3r54 ай бұрын
In Dragonball Ki is a high tier martial art ability that humans need to put a lot of work into to train and use, whilst aliens and such are somewhat just born with it.