Mid Handicap Driver Fitting

[@thedondon1]

Every video I watch Is convincing me more and more to drive up and get fitted. You guys are just fantastic. I feel like I would be wasting my time and money going anywhere else.

[@clubchampionmedia]

👍👍👍

[@PickaYoutubeName]

I'm planning on just going in a couple years, its double to have Ian fit you, but the value far outweighs the cost IMO. Need a full bag!! lets goooo!

[@chillaz3000]

I wish all club fitters cared as much about golfers as you do Ian and had your passion for it.I live in Sydney, and was thinking of getting fit, but I am worried I will get a bad fitter who doesn't care about my game, all he wants is the sale. Keep up the great work guys

[@niradshah2951]

Orthodox flying to Toronto after lockdown 4.0.2 to get fitted - thanks for another great video

[@arianeandzak]

The whole approach is just great. As a low-20 handicap and about 18 months in the game it really makes me consider seeing a fitter on top of lessons. I never really considered a fit in the past. Thanks for the content!

[@clubchampionmedia]

👍👍👍👍

[@alfredtu2]

Went into today for Loft/Lie check and Ian was phenomenal! I have a pretty good base of knowledge after playing for 3 years and I gotta say I still learned a lot! Still do with these videos as well. Super looking forward to doing a driver fitting in the near future!

[@clubchampionmedia]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@mikecook8059]

Love the explanation. I enjoy hearing the "why" when you make changes, positive or not!! Great job!!

[@Your_Mailman_Grows_7121]

Yes! This my favorite type of content by you guys. Deep dive into it a normal golfers fitting and how you guys go about changing spec to dial in the settings. Don't get me wrong I like the "Iron Byron" videos (videos with Matt), but seeing a true fitting for someone who gets a real gains is interesting to me. I'm 36 (and have played for 30 years) and have never had the chance to have a real fitting, that's just small town living. But love seeing this type of stuff, like when Sammy came in awhile back. It's just cool to see the gains. But don't get me wrong, I love the deep dive into scratching out a few yards, or better flight/dispersion on a scratch golfer as well.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Thanks Ryan!!

[@parnopsiripornpak428]

OMG! I think you guys just gave me the answer I need. I'm only a few months into golf but as I picked up things quickly, I began to struggle with my driver M1 2017 10.5 + UST Attas T2 6R where I'm now hitting moonshot and often a slice. Now I can't do a full swing but have to slow it down and do a casual swing like when I began to get a straight shot of about 250yard carry. And it made me think about issue with shafts where this video seem to confirm it. Thank you so much. Would love to get fitted by you guys... but unlikely to happen since I'm in Thailand.

[@mattsheehan5033]

I never would have jumped to the M4 D type with his initial numbers and sure enough it turned out to be absolute money for him! Unreal stuff as usual!

[@samuelcollie2050]

Another great video showing how fitting benefits us all. I got fit for G400 Ping irons (70 years old but still pretty strong and flexible). My carry distance for each iron has improved significantly (not like pros of course). Next is the driver!

[@kalyanrouthu]

Cant wait for my fitting next month with Ian. These high and mid handicap fitting videos give me so much hope.

[@hypo3]

This is a fantastic video. You guys give such a great level of detail in the fitting. I'd love to get an update on Sam and how the driver has been treating him on the course almost a year later.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Frank Rivera Sammy is doing great, he’s been busy at school but we’ll see him when he’s back this summer and we’ll film an update with him.

[@mikebest634]

Just goes to show that there is more to shafts than what flex is stamped on it ,torque ,kick point , and very importantly weight and feel.Its a shame other people that test on the internet don't see that ,what you guys do is always try to get shaft and head to the best combo for each player .Well done again .

[@jbuburuz]

Thank you. Love to see the evolution of the fitting. Very cool to see how the dispersion came in the end. Very exciting can't wait for a fitting. I want a single digit handicap! Or break 100 :( which ever comes first.

[@golfbbqandwatches]

Excellent video. My miss is the high spinning high flier out to the right. I was fitted for an M1 12* with a stock Fujikura XLR8 Pro shaft almost 3 years ago. I have the weight set all the way to the draw setting but i just feel like the stock shaft isn't quite right, and its too inconsistent. I do stripe my drives at times but the right miss always shows its ugly face. I'm definitely going to look into another professional fitting to see if i can get the same results you got here. I love your philosophy of making the extreme change, seeing how that went then dialling it back incrementally to get it in the zone where its just right.

[@JuanGarcia-hr1wf]

Great video Ian and Matt. Just got fitted at True Spec in Doral for Ping G400 Max lofted at 11.5 with Aldila Orange 55g shaft.

[@clubchampionmedia]

👍👍👍

[@davidwhite6163]

Loved the mid,to high handicap fittings!!

[@peterhammer6915]

for a 13 hc a really good and smooth swing

[@windmillcancersurvivor2568]

You two are the Batman and Robin of club fitting with interesting subjects. I want to be a club fitter in my next life. Just bought a new F9 Speedback and a used M4 driver this week to compliment my G400, 910 D2.

[@213shred]

Great video! Love hearing about the philosophy of miss hit being straight, makes sense!

[@codysal736]

love to see some mid handicap videos

[@fernandoberoiz5083]

I am not surprised why I have trying to find a driver that fits to me for so long time, thank for your excellent advice

[@scotty_teee4226]

Loved this fit!! You could see him transition into feeling confident and ripping his drives. Would love to hear back from these guys a few months after their fitting and see how much of an impact it has had. Could be a true testament to you guys and what you do

[@markrehfeld1791]

Wow. That was awesome. Can’t wait to be able to afford a fitting and new gear

[@freakerdk]

If i ever win the lotteri, im booking a flight ticket asap, to get a full bag fitting at you guys 😁 amazing stuff everytime

[@follyfour506]

ThomasKlarskov Ian this could be your prize giveaway when you get 20,000 subs.

[@TC-ps9sd]

Interesting that as a fitter you suggest making a drastic change (e.g., from a slice to a hook) and then work backwards to a straight shot. I'm amazed at what a good fitter can do by changing shaft and head and not the swing itself.

[@sharkhark]

Phenomenal as always and like seeing someone a bit closer to me a 7 hdcp

[@1988TheHitman]

That shot at 8:48 was majestic 👌🏼

[@wardpr68]

Great to watch. Thank you for showing the whole process.

[@kenturner4974]

Older video I know, but do you have any more videos of his swing, such as down the line view? He seems to have a really smooth swing and one that I could try and emulate and get rid of my "over the top" nonsense, cheers

[@follyfour506]

Got fitted for a Callaway Rogue driver ended up with the Sub Zero model in 9 degree which really surprised me . I was set up 9 degree and a draw setting hit it well then it all went wrong for me weeks later . Anyway added 1 degree and put it in neutral setting , what a different club now it's long and straight . Our swings can change from the fitting as we are only amateurs mine definitely has . I play off 10 h/cap by the way .

[@habs7646]

yea this is what worries me, pay for the fitting+new shaft and then the year after it doesnt work anymore

[@DougNielsen]

Would love to hear more about tee height adjustments

[@garyrae5413]

Excellence as always...going for a fit Friday and now I'm armed with some great knowledge of what I SHOULD be getting....not sure that I will though!!

[@joesharplin5443]

It's a shame there isn't the same kind of fitting knowledge in more places around the world guys! Great work though

[@keithfinley2939]

Fantastic video, fellas. Sam's 'cap is gonna drop off a cliff

[@blakeg.1093]

I really enjoy watching you guys work this out. Great job guys

[@Nirvi1]

Love the music bro! Very classy.

[@banditbaker1675]

Great Vid as ever Guys, so now we have "Sam the Legend" and "Sam the Bandit"!!!!!!

[@clubchampionmedia]

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[@xRelyT1]

Being in California and so far away from you guys sucks, would really love a driver fitting. Never have been fit for anything before, hopefully you guys make it out here someday.

[@clubchampionmedia]

We probably will Tyler!

[@xRelyT1]

TXG Tour Experience Golf awesome to hear!

[@MARTIN-xt5zk]

Perfect series... always positive...thank you TXG

[@johnnyhershberger6294]

Club fitting at its finest! Great job!

[@adolfozayas3359]

another solid knowledgeable video. Great Stuff

[@JamesThompson-zl2sk]

Another great video shows how a good fit can make such a difference. I use to like the green Aldi shaft in 65 stiff which modern shaft would you say was similar .

[@clubchampionmedia]

Aldila make a new version of that: www.aldila.com/nv-2kxv-green-2/

[@JamesThompson-zl2sk]

Thanks for that I have just received the Miura wedges from 10,000 subscriber give away can’t believe how good they look Sent e mail to Ian and Tracey to say so and I will be in touch to say how well they are going Just like to say thanks to all at txg and Matt and hope the company goes from strength to strength which I’m sure it will. James

[@anthonymckenzie7951]

Excellent video Team TXG! Appreciate the mid-handicap fitting - would like to see some more mixed in with Matt "The Machine" Blois :). Curious why you didn't consider having Sam try the G400Max head, with a more closed face vs. G400?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Mostly because the draw weighting really seemed to help Sam right out of the gate, in the end actually a more neutral face setting with the draw weighting was the best combination.

[@williamreitinger8978]

On "point" driver fitting. Super job!!

[@howardbarker276]

After watching all your videos & after going to a few early fitting sessions & getting confused. I am going to see Nick Hibbs @ Tour X to finally get sorted out 👍

[@bogeygolfer3151]

Awesome video so informative, and Sam has a great swing

[@simonhobbs9097]

Really enjoy informative video's like this one, well done guys, more like these please.

[@stepyourgameupplaya9360]

Dang I really want you guys to fit me into a driver.

[@johnmayer4746]

The results speak for themselves, but am curious as to the overall build price of the D-type w/ the GD - how premium is that shaft?

[@ronyalefaio]

tbh this guy knows his shit..hands down i wish i go to him right now to get me fitted..wow

[@stollerino]

When can we expect to see the hollow iron showdown? i.e. the i500 vs p790 vs ....

[@clubchampionmedia]

On our to-do list for sure Matt!

[@simonhobbs9097]

Matt Stoll Lets do with low, mid and high handicappers.

[@thebigeasy8609]

Another beauty guys!

[@ahoyahoybooth32]

is there much of a difference between this years d type and last years d type driver? great stuff again by the way.

[@clubchampionmedia]

We'd have to test, but this year's M4 is very good.

[@redgooner5]

Hey guys great video as always. Could you do a test relating to spin and its effect on how much a golf balls defiates of line. For example similar face and path condition but one spins at 10000 and one spins at 5000 how much will this effect the fade or draw on the golf ball. This spin could be achieved throught clubs or ball I suppose

[@clubchampionmedia]

Best video we have currently that discusses that topic is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2bWpWmVaaineLs That's something we hope to be able to fully test in the future with use of a swing robot.

[@redgooner5]

TXG Tour Experience Golf swing robot that sounds cool. Tha ks for the link to

[@mitchleask1368]

The only question I can think of is would you do any more to increase the launch angle? Are you leaving it at 10° to allow for the occasional drive that goes high?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Not much, more loft will also produce more spin. Best course of action for Sam is to work on his angle of attack, that will give him a higher launch angle without excess spin. His launch angle window is lower because his angle of attack is negative.

[@sarahpoustie4808]

How long should a proper fit take? Great content as always guys!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Our driver sessions are about one hour 👍

[@toursauce86]

Love the videos. Speaking of right launch angle. I got fitted for a 9 degree driver with a oban black 05 which is x-stiff. I have the access to hit on a gc2 and my launch angle for my driver averages around 18 degrees. My swing speed is 116. Do you have any suggestions on changing equipment?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Less loft for sure, and pick a head with a more forward CG placement i.e. Rogue Sub Zero and M3 - take note of your angle of attack though, it must be very positive to launch the ball that high. Ideally you want to be in the 3-5º positive range on GC2.

[@toursauce86]

Thanks. Keep up the good work

[@stuartphimmer7429]

this was awesome.

[@storieswithaly1247]

Really interesting given my similar handicap and driver being key to bringing it down but as you indicated achieving greater consistency. The issue of changing from one type of leak to another drastically was very revealing as a way of finding the right balance. Interesting also that clearly the shaft still makes a big difference not just the head. Indeed it made me think about an earlier clip where you rested the same shaft with different heads to show the impact or difference the head makes- have you done it the other way around ie same head different shafts, probably the combination of the two together would be quite revealing and more scientific wrt what has more (or equal?) influence. Been to another fitter or two recently and they are not any near as thorough or understanding of the swing- there still seems to be a tendency to get you out of the door with a club. By the way what do you think about the value or importance of having shafts sst pured?

[@clubchampionmedia]

This would be the closest in terms of that shaft test that we've done: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pX-ofGCBdpVqfpI We're planning to do a video on puring shafts in the future.

[@tapiatitan92]

Very much love the fitting videos! I just discovered that we have a TopTracer coming into our local range that offers some shot metrics. Do you have experience with that technology and how accurate t is?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Have experience with it at TopGolf 😆😆 - Not 100% sure, but I think it's a radar technology so I suspect it would be pretty accurate.

[@tapiatitan92]

I stopped by today and looked at it a bit. Radar would be a good way to describe it. Bought a 1 hour session to see what my distances are..interesting results to say the least... Thanks for getting back!

[@brianmccool9728]

Another great video!

[@ESW206]

Great video surprised at the low subscriber count expecting it to go up

[@clubchampionmedia]

We are too 😆😆

[@matthewcritchley1214]

Great fitting.

[@peterrietdyk2599]

Guys. I understand this video is a couple of years old; however, as with all of your videos, I struggle to resolve HOW to apply what I’ve seen. As most (if not all) of your videos have the technical bent (as that’s the the very skill set you bring), I am unable to easily replicate that knowledge as I don’t have access to that kind of fitting specialist. And while I am getting lessons, I still don’t have access that kind of specialty club fitting here in Australia. Which’s why I’m trying to understand: if I can’t apply what I’ve seen then, aside from knowledge, what’s the point? Thanks

[@weihanfranklin]

Love the mid handicap approach, right on for someone like me. That being said, I doubt most of mid-handicap have an average swing speed of 115 MPH. Love to see some fitting at 100 to 105 range, which I believe is the typical average?

[@johncande1]

Do you know any fitters you recommend that are half way around the world from your location?

[@austinsnider8864]

I’d like to know what shaft/head can fix my snap hook and massive push slice? 😂 Hit it nice and straight when I grip down and swing about 70% but I need more than 240 from my driver. Think my stock stiff shaft and Ping G SFT might be holding me back?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Hard to say, the Ping stock shafts are quite good so wouldn't necessarily say that would be an issue. A fitting would be worthwhile to see what's happening with your swing delivery and whether an equipment change could help.

[@austinsnider8864]

TXG Tour Experience Golf I was “fitted” for that when I bought it, not a good fitting tho. That’s for sure. I was being facetious about the driver fixing my wild swing tho. Lessons have been helping a lot.

[@jonathanbrown9245]

I'm coming over from the UK for a full bag fit in june, i'd like to know how long did this driver fit take and would i get as good a result having a full bag fit as sammy?

[@VellaTek]

Good luck. I'm doing the full bag fitting this summer with him. Would love to hear your feedback from your experience.

[@Derek_Ryan]

When looking for an optimal ball flight on driver, do you try to get spin or launch sorted first? Is there certain optimal ranges on each? I’m not too quick(105), very low spin with my driver(1500ish), but launch it 16-17*. Is that ok, or should that be optimized by increasing spin and lowering launch?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Those launch conditions will probably give you the absolute longest drives possible at your swing speed Derek, but probably not the most stable and accurate. Something closer to 13º/2300rpm would be a more balanced flight, although it would give you less distance. This video we did a few months ago has a lot of discussion on this topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2bWpWmVaaineLs

[@Derek_Ryan]

TXG Tour Experience Golf thanks!! I’ve seen that video(if I haven’t watched them within 30 min of release I get twitchy). Just wasn’t sure what was optimal at my speed. As always, fantastic content!

[@jessiecaples5425]

I have ss of 103 and miss right because over the top a bit. I hit up on it slightly like .5. Would you reccomend a draw bias club for me ? Any shaft reccomendations ? Head ? Please help. Im in the Ping G400max Ping Tour 65 stiff. Thanks

[@MARTIN-xt5zk]

Was there a reason the Rogue draw wasn't tried? Also which in your opinion on average produces less spin, the M4 D Type or Rogue draw?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Tried about 5-6 different heads with Sam during the fit, any more than that and player fatigue starts to be an issue. With Ian's knowledge he goes to the heads in the studio that he think will perform for that player's particular swing. We haven't done any direct testing between M4 D and Rogue Draw, likely they'd be in a similar window for spin.

[@GRUNGELEOPARD]

Taylor made m3, 95mph speed: suggestion for loft and weight positions..? Yeah I know fitting and everything just wanna se what you think;)

[@asdfkhieee]

if you guys could move to new orleans so i can get a fitting that would be great.

[@leecorleone]

I want that black shirt lol. Great video.

[@charlesrohl7635]

Speechless !👍

[@jairoglyphics]

out of curiosity... why not make track adjustments to the M3 driver to have the same characteristics of a d-type M4?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Just wouldn't be as strong a draw bias even with the y-track weights as compared to the M4 D-type.

[@jairoglyphics]

I see! thanks

[@anemicroyalty8764]

I’m a relative beginner (never had a lesson, but have hit on ranges about 30 times over ten years, a third of that has been recently though). I just found out my used Ping 12 degree G15 driver is a stiff shaft (too stiff for me) . Is this why I’m able to hit a 9 degree 1997 Cobra deep face & a 9.5 975D driver farther with good hits than the G15? I can hit 220 (counting rollout) drives with the steel shafted cobra and as far as that with the Titleist but struggle to reach 200 with the Ping. And aren’t beginners supposed to also benefit from more loft in drivers as well over lower lofts? My max ball speed (keep in mind I haven’t had a lesson) now is about 130-132. How far should I hit a good driver with that? And will I keep getting higher speeds if I keep hitting?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Modern drivers are designed to hit the ball high Jake, especially the G15. 12º sounds like it's too much loft for your swing which is why an old model with appropriate loft is going farther. A newer driver with the correct loft would likely perform a lot better than any club from 10+ years ago.

[@anemicroyalty8764]

Thanks for the fast reply!

[@ww-oo7ic]

Sam is dressed like he's headed to a family BBQ then goes 116 SS out of the gate! Great work Sam and I hope I never run into you in a tournament playing off a 13. Sam should now be referred to as "Sam The Ringer"

[@clubchampionmedia]

😆😆

[@mezzavoceify]

Love this channel! However, the emotional music doesn't seem to fit seem to fit the content. I know Ian's club fittings can be transformational, but I don't expect to tear up watching these sessions. Just a friendly jab there, boys . . .

[@clubchampionmedia]

Go ahead get emotional Jordan!!! 😆😆😆

[@mezzavoceify]

It's so . . . beautiful

[@martinritchie1706]

What length do you have the driver shafts built to in your fitting matrix?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Built to play at 45"

[@VellaTek]

I'm confused.... He hits the ball 285 to 300 off the tee and is a 13 handicap. I am an 11 handicap and only hit the ball 230 off the tee. I play the tee box that is 6150 to 6350 yards for the whole course. Could it be my short game is better than his ? I have to get fitted. Callaway X-18 is the clubs I use must be almost 20 years old by now.

[@habs7646]

you said you were swinging at 110mph, but you were swinging at 116 mph during the test, is this due to different golf simulators?

[@frankkoch2529]

Sam is a mid handicapper but has tour numbers driving: 115 mph swing speed, 290 yd distance. Great for Sam but not reflective of a 13 handicapper.

[@miriamdalglish255]

What's the best ladies driver for a 14hdcp. Club head speed low 60. Shaft length for 5.1

[@mattmeyers2702]

Are there other shafts with the same or similar profiles that would fit as well and not have to spend $375 on just the shaft?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Would be looking for a 65g shaft, stiff tip and butt sections with low torque. Certainly some other options out there with comparable specs on paper, all comes down to testing to see what works well for the individual. We hope to start testing some lower cost shafts in the near future.

[@gaetanderoy]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 as always !!!

[@blainwilkins9360]

This guy is a 13? Think he needs a putter fitting boys... Great video ! haha

[@whiskerrub]

Seasoned not seasonal because a 12 foot by 10 foot igloo and GCQuad is Canadian climate change now. Now what were the nuggets you added hmmmm? Great stuff again👍

[@priayief]

I love your videos and club fittings but especially on this one I'm confused, relating to shaft flex. I've seen many tests that have convinced me that shaft flex doesn't really matter ... that is, testing on a robot with different swing speeds and off-center strikes (and other variables), shows no measurable difference. Several pieces I've seen give the opinion that the most significant different is psychological; that is, how the flex "feels" to the golfer. Of course, if you have confidence in how a particular shaft feels, it makes sense that you will strike the ball better. But it seems you are making a case that the shaft flex has more that a psychological effect?

[@clubchampionmedia]

The shaft can definitely affect the delivery of the golf club, but you're correct that it isn't technically the shaft itself creating launch and spin numbers. For Sam, the stiffer profile, x-flex shaft was easier for him to deliver the clubhead to the ball square and make solid contact and that in turn produced better launch conditions for him. Once we get the Gears Golf system installed in the studio, we're going to dive into this topic very deeply and hopefully illustrate what a shaft is doing during the swing.

[@GRUNGELEOPARD]

Well I’m getting old 116 mph mid hcp wow!!

[@Pepzpepz]

This makes me want to come to you for a fitting, trouble is, I live in Sweden..

[@hoopsfever82]

Another great job Ian, it's hard to believe Sam is only 5 strokes better than me, with that swing. He must be a horrible putter..ha I"m sure he'll be single digits in no time!

[@gskeff]

Love it

[@georgepanoussis9527]

Only negative would be the extreme expense involved here $500 plus shaft !

[@obsidiantitan]

where in canada?

[@clubchampionmedia]

ViEnShOcK Toronto

[@rokstern7042]

Everytime I watch one of your videos I wish I had anyone as competent anywhere near me. I don't think there is a proper fitter inside of 300 km of me...

[@InwonKim1982]

Drastic change.. man..

[@paulkelly5883]

👍👍👍👍

[@rhysowen9566]

Is Sam a man mountain? He barely looks like he is swinging it yet is over 115mph! Must have some long levers!