Over 2,300 combined horsepower gets the heart racing! Which of these two lightning fast cars is your favorite? What would you like to see them race next? Let us know in the comments! Update: For those inquiring in the comments, both drivers used the boost button as soon as they exited the corner, otherwise the races wouldn't have been nearly as close. Thank you for your feedback!
@ericmichel3857Ай бұрын
So, if you guys were to spend your own money on one of these two, which would you choose? And why? I am thinking the Porsche would better suite my tastes, but the fact that the Lucid is faster, a USA car, and probably better comfort for daily use, I would probably go for the Lucid. However, it would be a tough choice.
@Seventh7ArtАй бұрын
Model S Plaid offers the best value for money, nonetheless. It is slightly slower but for half the price.
@FrankGallagherrАй бұрын
Porsche isn’t all that.
@georgedoolittle9015Ай бұрын
The AI is going to level up even these offerings😊😊
@ericmichel3857Ай бұрын
@@Seventh7Art And apparently you can get a slightly used one for far less than that. I not interested in an EV, but it probably is the cheapest nine second car you can get. If I were to spend over $100K on a toy, personally I'd get a C8 Z06.
@johnkiai5881Ай бұрын
Hands down to the Lucid creators just amazing super sport's sedan. Bravo Lucid.
@4literv6Ай бұрын
Largest pack, most motors, costs the most and weighs the most. It should win! The air is also the oldest of the trio. The First air prototype that did 200+mph debuted in April of 2016. And lucid had the power train for it in a minivan beating a model s p90 back in 2015!
@jezza6575Ай бұрын
@@4literv6both these cars are $250k!
@G82WattsАй бұрын
@@jezza6575 turbo gt is 230k .. weisach package is around 250 out the door
@arindambaisyaАй бұрын
@@4literv6 Why should it win if it weighs more? It's the other way around. It wins despite being a 4 door full sized sedan.
@jamied9448Ай бұрын
It's amazing a start-up with their FIRST car did this against one of the most famous racing companies with almost 100 years of experience.
@pushkar2911Ай бұрын
I am a simple man. I see Lucid Air content and I watch it.
@TheMadmax0609Ай бұрын
You should buy their stock.
@mrb2349Ай бұрын
@@TheMadmax0609 seeing how superior their cars are, yes he should. You're btthurt because a 5 year old company stomps all over your dream cars.
@TheMadmax0609Ай бұрын
@mrb2349 I have no problem with any electric car company, but Lucid is dying.
@mrb2349Ай бұрын
@@TheMadmax0609 as much as you'd love that to happen, they are still going, with the Gravity SUV coming up.
@TheMadmax0609Ай бұрын
@mrb2349 I've got news for you, once the Saudis stop supporting Lucid, they're done. I have stock and Lucid but I know they're going to fail.
@TVCHLORDАй бұрын
Edmunds found a entertaining series
@lemongavineАй бұрын
I’m glad I found it
@Boomtendo4twАй бұрын
The Lucid won whilst the seat massage was running lol! That's amazing!
@Domani02Ай бұрын
La Porsche s'en sort très bien
@jepunit12Ай бұрын
These cars are monsters. From all the cars you test on U-Drags, you can tell from your expressions it’s a complete roller coaster.
@jeffrey-fАй бұрын
Nothing monstrous about big batteries
@tornatic1983Ай бұрын
@jeffrey-f Lol monsters when it comes to acceleration. Go drive one first then report back. I own a 1020 hp Tesla Model S Plaid and people that get a ride said its violent and too fast
@anthonyc8499Ай бұрын
Yeah, I dropped everything to watch this. Don't judge me.
@Sherlz10Ай бұрын
Lol
@ManTa-o5yАй бұрын
Hope the baby is fine....
@21cooltoolАй бұрын
Even the soap?
@KentBuchlaАй бұрын
yawn
@MobileCryptoTeslaАй бұрын
So did i
@SmzxeАй бұрын
Rimac Nevera Vs Lucid Sapphire or Chiron SS or Chiron Pur Sport Lucid Sapphire is crazy fast
@Dan-e2cАй бұрын
Nevera will beat them all easy
@Jackson-sonАй бұрын
Are you serious Man?!!Nevera is a hyper car having 2100hp
@curtisalex456Ай бұрын
@@Dan-e2c True but it will be cool to see it.
@FrankGallagherrАй бұрын
I’ll take the Lucid Sapphire all day long and twice on Sunday!!
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
U realize the taycan turbo gt with weisach package would be faster then the lucid in a straight line right? Plus then they would all be 2 seaters.
@chrispyy606060606Ай бұрын
Most people have no idea how fast a low 9 second 1/4 mile actually is. It’s just mental how fast those cars are at that weight.
@somealias-zs1bwАй бұрын
At that weight...exactly. There is something obscene about driving a vehicle that weighs more than a F150 pickup truck and trying to feel "fast."
@blablah538Ай бұрын
I'm curious to see someone put wider tires all around on the sapphire because we have the touring which is half the power and very slightly narrower tires and it accelerates faster after 50 mph suggesting traction issues. The Grand Touring also hits 60 in the exact same time as the touring with 200 extra horsepower as further evidence. Just more evidence that the biggest developments in speed in the past 30 years have been tires
@MrNOAH504Ай бұрын
What a way to make my morning! I woke up watching a few Lucid Air videos, then I was pleasantly surprised that this popped up shortly after! The icing on the cake is the Saturn ball cap, it brings back some very fond memories of my late dad and brother. Almost tearing as I type...
@janissaryone1906Ай бұрын
This is a much better pairing, both are $250K ish cars that are top dogs in their luxury sports sedan segment. Surprised at how well the Lucid performed under braking and cornering, thought it'll give up the ghost but it was on par with the Taycan. Kudos for a great race.
@LafemmebearMusicАй бұрын
The Mitch match races are interesting too actually a perfect match is sometimes kinda boring
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
But on every lap the taycan beats it.. I think what u heard at the end where the lucid was making all types of noise from cooling and the taycan wasn't shows that the taycan is better suited when be pushed hard. I don't think they even used the push to pass button for the taycan at all either.
@jezza6575Ай бұрын
@@PEACEOUTXX1That’s a lot of assumptions made from very little context!
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
@jezza6575 well u can clearly hear the car cooling as they said .. also the lucid air saphhire has many lap times around numerous tracks. The taycan turbo gt has beat it in all of them. But it's like they were saying the turbo gt takes skill to corner. I bet they end up getting a better time with more runs under it's belt.
@B4R0N.Ай бұрын
It wasn't just on par! It was superior! That's where it gained the most time!
@Glock7eventeenАй бұрын
Wow the lucid even cornered quicker than the Porsche despite being much bigger and heavier, just an engineering masterpiece.
@missingeggАй бұрын
The engineering team at Lucid seems to have done some really impressive work with the Sapphire's traction control. Every review of the car I've read has been very impressed by what they've accomplished.
@marcadewerisches9985Ай бұрын
I love the Engineering in the Lucid but They should Running it on Lagune seca
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
New plaid vs taycan video they got 1.41 Gs for the cornering. Looks like they learned how to corner it better. Now it makes sense. Porsche handling is on another level!
@Glock7eventeenАй бұрын
@@PEACEOUTXX1 You have to remember that both the Lucid and Plaid are 5 seater, 4 door sedans. You can comfortably fit 5 full sized adult men in both vehicles. The Taycan GT does not have usable rear seats for adults, they even have an option to get rid of them altogether, even the front seats aren’t very spacious and the roof line is super low. This gives Porsche a huge advantage and on paper the Porsche should be blowing both cars out of the water, but it’s not.
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
@@Glock7eventeen it sits 4 perfectly fine .. u should of known that the cornering is better in the porsche to begin with since it beats the saphire on every track. I knew they didn't push it to its potential in this video around the corner. I'm sure the weisach pack without rear seats even beats the lucid too the QM.
@Ddbll94Ай бұрын
Hats off to Lucid. Beating Porsche engineering says something.
@RobertkajmanАй бұрын
Only in this race, I think It is more like a driver fault who made mistakes while driving during turning back at the end of the straight and someone can tell me why the driver in Taycan was braking at the end in the second race. Turbo GT Weissach probably destroys Sapphire.
@lukabosnjak3829Ай бұрын
@@Robertkajman Taycan braking at the end of the second eace? Both drivers had faults only in a Porsche? Get out of here mate... And no, Weissach ain't beating the Sapphire at this
@FullThrottle2Ай бұрын
@@Robertkajman Why would anyone buy a two-seater Turbo GT Weissach instead of Porsche tubo S? Weissach and Spahire it's not the same class of car.
@RobertkajmanАй бұрын
@@FullThrottle2 it is the same class, but more hardcore one like the sapphire, they wanted to compare the quickest production version electric saloons. They could compare 1111 hp Lucid Air to standard Turbo GT to be fair.
@FullThrottle2Ай бұрын
@@Robertkajman no it's not the same class because tycan weissach is already a two seater with a cage. It's not a competition for a family sedan. You could just as well put it up against Rimack Nevera or remove the entire interior from Lucida to lighten the car and then put it up against Porsche.
@ahmedalqarni1995Ай бұрын
Lucid cars is only 3 years old , while porsches are +100 years . Gosh how lucid is a masterpiece.
@mikeely973223 күн бұрын
If the Federal and State rebates disappear Lucid and others could very well go out of business. Tesla is one of the few EV companies that operate on a profit.
@skillz1855Ай бұрын
Man Lucid hit those corners better than the Porsche well done
@yulianmarkevych2709Ай бұрын
Lucid is absolutely insane car
@eternalme6077Ай бұрын
This Taycan gave a better race than the Plaid......AWESOME Race guys. 🎸♥️
@romansenger2322Ай бұрын
Thats what I would expect from a car with 2.5x the price, everything else would be embarrassing
@SuzukiKid400Ай бұрын
@@romansenger2322the plaid is Tesla trash
@romansenger2322Ай бұрын
@SuzukiKid400 what are you? 12 years old going through your puberty?
@VacationWiseАй бұрын
Plaid is $89k and they had it in the slow track mode when tested.
@r7cardosuarez806Ай бұрын
@@VacationWiseJust like they didnt use the boost mode with the Taycan i guess
@BmwAlfa123Ай бұрын
Craziest part is that in the second race the Porsche was actually ahead before braking, and Lucid beat it during braking/turning part.
@isserdigan2835Ай бұрын
That is because the Sapphire was in Track mode. 😂😂. Taycan has no chance with the Sapphire. Sapphire goes 0 to 60 in 1.89 sec
@BmwAlfa123Ай бұрын
@isserdigan2835 you missed the point ☠️
@Illopp00ifyАй бұрын
Yeah you could see the Porsche losing time on exit with some slight oversteer, Sapphire 2 rear motors and crazy traction control is unbeatable out of corners on top of on roll acceleration.
@Miata822Ай бұрын
I think each run we see is cut together from several runs. There are other inconsistencies, but the Lucid doesn't out-brake the Porsche.
@TroySavaryАй бұрын
I think in the first race they used the push to pass on the way back while in the second they used it on the first leg.
@NzeRayeАй бұрын
Bro, this lucid can easily eat anyone's breakfast.. I don't think there's any other full size sedan that has all the luxury or comfort and weight that can take it on.. this thing is faaaaaaast.
@Alps6408Ай бұрын
Don't care for EV's at all, but man that Porsche was punching! over 400 hp down and it was that close.
@SSavolainenАй бұрын
Porsche has over 1000hp but its limited and can't use it hole time...
@chycoll9 күн бұрын
Have you ever driven an EV?
@karlin_orileyАй бұрын
Both very crazy cars. The Sapphire is not only superfast but VERY comfortable too
@atanasvasilev3228Ай бұрын
The Lucid is the fastest electric car out of the limited edition million dollars worth cars. It's absolute king. Range, speed, acceleration. The down side are the looks tho. It's not bad by any means, just isn't good.
@Aggie4life77Ай бұрын
Agree on the looks!
@JacobFrameworkАй бұрын
This has got to be a top-10 all-time favorite video for me, THANK YOU, EDMUNDS!
@lukashenningsen2983Ай бұрын
The Porsche has 1100 just for the launch, after the corner without launch controll only 800HP + Attack Mode for some seconds. The Porsche performs great against 1235HP of the Lucid the whole drag race.
@dantethomas7964Ай бұрын
Porsches always punch way above their weight class.
@donswierАй бұрын
Who doesn't get a little thrill every time they spot a Lucid? Props to Peter & the team.
@andynguyen144Ай бұрын
I don’t at all. I live in CA and they are quite common. Bought a model s plaid instead of lucid air gt
@HyperVaniloАй бұрын
I don't, the car might be comfortable to drive but to control everything in your car from screen? Yuck
@martinmtawali7359Ай бұрын
the Tesla boys are so quiet these days of LUCID
@timothyhingham3672Ай бұрын
A thrill? The lead sled styling rubs my fir the wrong way, but I respect the capabilities. The other thing is you have to a fanboi to decipher which trim you are seeing. So for all I know I'm seeing a lower end model. Like the other guy said, in Cali these are everywhere like any EV.
@mebeingU2Ай бұрын
@@martinmtawali7359, dude…I drive an S and I still love how it pulls everyday I drive it. $80K v $200K is not chump change. My car may not be as fast as the Lucid, but it’s still in the top 5 U drags and faster than most cars that are on American roads. To each his own. G’day mate.
@jacktheman1989Ай бұрын
Damn Edmond, pumping out fire videos left amd right
@philipthulani3234Ай бұрын
That lucid is mad
@azizmarzАй бұрын
The lucid outcorning the Porsche with worse tires 😨. The sapphire is unbelievable.
@Illopp00ifyАй бұрын
They have the same Pirelli Trofeo RS tires...
@azizmarzАй бұрын
@ they don’t lucid uses special tires in the middle low resistance compound and on the edge is sportier compound which has disadvantages
@kennykuuun1017Ай бұрын
@@azizmarz The Sapphire is sold with those bespoke Michelin PS4S Acoustics but the one in the video is fitted with the Trofeos, which they mention at 0:33.
@azizmarzАй бұрын
@@kennykuuun1017 thank you for correcting me 👍🏻👍🏻
@kennykuuun1017Ай бұрын
@@azizmarz No probs! Go Sapphire!! 🤙
@LarsRRАй бұрын
Despite this being the more sensible test (both are 4 seaters) I’d still love to see what the Weissach could do. It should at least be a little closer. Hats off to lucid!
@DodgeChallenger426Ай бұрын
Well let's hope so, the Weissach Turbo GT has the same awful daily usability as your average supercar. How pointless to make a big sedan with four doors, cancel the rear seats and then put it on extreme tires only to be as fast as a 500-ish hp 992 GT3 on most tracks...
@Masiii93Ай бұрын
Both are amazing cars. Porsche is always more track focused so props for that it does straight line so fast aswell. But in the end of the day i still enjoy so much more to watch ice car races. You never know the outcome as you do watching ev drags, more power = always win. Anyway keep up the great content ima watch every U drag no matter what👍🏼
@ClemsonNY13Ай бұрын
I didn’t see either of the drivers press the 10s boost button from the Taycan. They mentioned that it would be pressed after coming out of the turn but I didn’t see any evidence that they did that. And it wasn’t mentioned again after the intro. If they had used it, I would have expected some discussion about the extra push of power. Curious.
@braven7426Ай бұрын
Watch from 2:56. Says he's going to use it. They obviously don't show every second in the car.
@abuamin1550Ай бұрын
@@braven7426 But for hyundai Ioniq 5 N, they pressed the boost button! watch the Ioniq 5N vs V wing
@takara6526Ай бұрын
I am pretty sure that if they used it they would definitely mention it. Plus you would see a little bit of difference in the acceleration of the Porsche
@jmnapigkitАй бұрын
@@takara6526they actually replied on the other comments. They used boost that’s why it was a close one. Also he said if not for boost it would not be a close one.
@takara6526Ай бұрын
@@jmnapigkit maybe I missed it . I am going to watch it again . 👍🏼
@TraumatreeАй бұрын
"You owe me a 9 sec car" has a totally different meaning 20+ years later. A reboot is in order!
@jezza6575Ай бұрын
10 sec car*
@fjalicsАй бұрын
Rimac Nevera wants to know if anybody is interested in mid 8s.
@lukabosnjak3829Ай бұрын
@@jezza6575 Both of these are low 9s in the 1/4
@Qor-ReАй бұрын
lol no need for a reboot they still have another movie coming out
@bmwguy007Ай бұрын
@@lukabosnjak3829the correct movie quote from original fast and furious referenced *10 sec car*
@mr10secondGTАй бұрын
Gents. When you up shift the paddle after you brake you get an additional 120KW for 10 seconds! Results are not factually correct because it wasn’t done! Taycan didn’t show its true position and would have won. Easily.
@cpolo88Ай бұрын
My goodness. That lucid is insane 🤯
@HyperVaniloАй бұрын
Duh, don't you see the horsepower difference? Plus the Sapphire has tri motor
@bulolo_wilberАй бұрын
The fact that it kept pulling away as though the Porsche was an ICE car is simply insane, the Porsche beat the Plaid, easily. That's saying something for the Sapphire
@Jimster481Ай бұрын
Lucid is king. People said Tesla was car 2.0, but then Lucid is Tesla 2.0. It literally demolishes everything and the interior is huge.
@pouyaoskouie6350Ай бұрын
the price is a bit of a killer though, a plaid still seems more worth it. You basically get the same performance but for less than half the price.
@Jimster481Ай бұрын
@@pouyaoskouie6350 I agree that the price is absolutely huge and the plaid is definitely a huge discount compared to this car. However, as Edmunds proved in its own new drags, the plaid does not have anywhere near the performance of this car as this car puts a literal football field sized gap on the plaid. Even with a track pack, the plaid cannot keep up with this car in the corners, let alone in a straight line. So it is a cheaper car for much less performance overall.
@pouyaoskouie6350Ай бұрын
@ idk about much less performance, we are talking 2 seconds here after all, it’s basically at the same level as the 2nd and 3rd place. There is a gap sure, but the fact that the plaid is under 100k and still competing on the same level with all these cars is nothing short of insanity.
@Jimster481Ай бұрын
@@pouyaoskouie6350 Well it was the track pack version that competed at the same level, it would be lower performance without the track pack for turning and braking. It does have the same power in terms of straight line acceleration though.
@pouyaoskouie6350Ай бұрын
@@Jimster481 it really wouldn’t have made much of a difference tbh, track pack is just for repeated breaking and wider tires.
@ashishpatel350Ай бұрын
Both are better than Tesla
@KP-xi4bjАй бұрын
Superchargers or FSD? No.
@valerystoichkov7429Ай бұрын
Of course. Tesla is junk.
@ew10j4turboАй бұрын
In your dreams 😂
@santosonly7Ай бұрын
@@ew10j4turbo No really. The Lucid spanked the Plaid worse than it did the Taycan.
@ew10j4turboАй бұрын
@ lets see on draggy not this stupid race
@JacobFrameworkАй бұрын
Considering the Lucid Aid is a spacious, comfortable family sedan, I would love to see what they would create with a true supercar to equal the Turbo GT
@BVZTIIIАй бұрын
Uhm, they are both 4 seat sedans. This isn't the Weissach Package version. Just saying.
@BALANCEDPORTFOLIOАй бұрын
Lucid will be bankrupt long before then ... and Mr Rawlinson may be missing his fingers
@ashman991Ай бұрын
Lucid is like the 720s of electric cars😂
@singingLeaf123Ай бұрын
sf90
@SiweLSiweLАй бұрын
Yes it is!!!
@FrankGallagherrАй бұрын
No, the Lucid is reliable!
@ericn3221Ай бұрын
750S
@Miata822Ай бұрын
@@FrankGallagherr came here to post that 😆
@GDM22Ай бұрын
Good job by both drivers, timing the braking and the tightness of the turns, there was a lot of speed they had to brush off, the Lucid just looked a bit quicker everywhere.
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
It doesn't really make sense when the 2nd race the porsche was a car ahead of the lucid and then after the turn it was miles ahead and by their own stats they pretty much have equal G force.. alot of it comes down to driving when races are this close. He braked so early .
@justme307Ай бұрын
@@PEACEOUTXX1 Which is why drivers switch cars and cars switch lanes.
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
@@justme307 yea but they both said the taycan takes more skill to drive... so clearly it's time will approve and again that's not even the fastest variant! End of the day the turbo gt with weisach package is the fastest around track and the fastest in a straight line! Porsche 👑
@lukabosnjak3829Ай бұрын
@@PEACEOUTXX1 What do you mean by Porsche king? It just lost to a way more luxury oriented car that's the same price...
@GDM22Ай бұрын
@@PEACEOUTXX1 The Weissach pack is two seats, it is rrelevant.
@vincentlee4016Ай бұрын
That was a close race... that porsche is quick . Closest car to ever catch the Lucid
@Aggie4life77Ай бұрын
Exactly! People are acting like it was a complete blow away. That Porsche is the only car I’ve seen that hung with it outside of the Bugatti and Rimac both beating it.
@K0FloАй бұрын
I mean that’s the new taycan though. Like the 2025 refresh top dog. Against a car maker that started making cars in 2022… like it’s not a matter of it barely losing it’s a matter of lucid dethroning the top dogs that have been doing it for wayyyyy longer
@stefanschuchardt5734Ай бұрын
With EVs the game changed. It's much easier to build an electro motor + Lucid founder worked at Tesla, who have much more experience than Lucid existed. I bet Lucid wouldn't be able to keep up if ICE engines were the norm without alternatives, especially against Porsche. And that's why China is now building competitive vehicles. We live in a different world now.
@hovanesmarkaryan896Ай бұрын
The 2nd race was fumbled big time, I think the Taycan could’ve done much better than 29.1 seconds Please keep posting more race videos of the Taycan Turbo GT, we need to see it against the SF90 and Revuelto
@eflam3374Ай бұрын
I have never seen any other car come this close to a lucid!
@G82WattsАй бұрын
Good race. Why was the push to pass button not used in the porsche after the turn though? U guys never even mentioned it. Seems like it was forgotten. The weisach pack variant will probably beat the lucid though.
@hovanesmarkaryan896Ай бұрын
These guys drove this car below its potential 100% - the Lucid is an absolute BEAST though
@nabushdinosaureАй бұрын
You are delusionnal thinking the Weissach package would shave 1s vs the normal one. Only difference is minor weight difference. If it shaves the time by 0.2-0.3s this would be the max.
@G82WattsАй бұрын
@@nabushdinosaure well I think they can def improve the time they got with more runs under its belt. Espically with the saying it took more skill to turn the corner and a 9.3 QM is slow for the turbo gt. It's capable of 9.1 without the weisach package. But as far as straight line acceleration and track times the wesiach pack is the new top dog over them all. The lucid was overheating after just 2 runs in this video
@nabushdinosaureАй бұрын
@@G82Watts The Taycan can do 9.1s on the dragstrip. The Lucid can do 8.9s on the dragstrip, so 9.2s is slow as well for it. The weissach package is only 150 Lbs lighter which will give a marginal performance difference in straights and corners (like all weissach packages on P cars). Yes it will be faster, but just a little... Also the Lucid has very good cooling , clearly not overheating in 2 30s runs like that...Even a Lucid air dream can lap the Nordschleife without overheating, and it's not sapphire cooling... It clocked 2min44s on VIR on PS4S tires, this is an extremely fast car in corners as the max G's shows, marginally better than the Taycan. On equal tires, I'm sure you can expect identical lap times from those cars. Not removing anything from the Taycan GT, but the Sapphire is on par.
@jsh139Ай бұрын
Love the Saturn hat. What a throwback.
@BTHHansenАй бұрын
So the top five are two McLaren supercars and three electric family sedans. Life is good.
@sailorforlifebestti3366Ай бұрын
There's German engineering vs. American but California engineering is different.
@jezza6575Ай бұрын
Yup, it’s the weather that attracts all the best minds in the world!
@FrankGallagherrАй бұрын
I’ll take the Lucid Sapphire all day long and twice on Sunday!!!
@peterhammer6915Ай бұрын
the Taycan for me thnks. If I pay 250k for a car, it has to look nice. The Lucid is one of the ugliest cars out there.
@sailorforlifebestti3366Ай бұрын
@@peterhammer6915 Nothing wrong with second place..
@peterhammer6915Ай бұрын
@@sailorforlifebestti3366 in this race it was an expected result. But on curvy countryroads or in the mountains the Taycan is on a totally different level of all Ev:s bar Rimac.
@ronvancleave3085Ай бұрын
Awesome, impressive Lucid. Anticipating ICE ZR1 vs the EV top dog. We need a F1 in here at some time vs Leader Board top 3. Should be right up Red-Bull's alley.
@TB-vb3ovАй бұрын
Zr1 isn't doing better than 29 some secs guaranteed. So Lucid for sure is still top dog.
@mateokovac2642Ай бұрын
That Saudi Lucid is nice, but yeah, Porsche all day. Best cars on the planet for a loooong time now.
@rrd1975Ай бұрын
That Sapphire shined brightly! What would it take to defeat this car? Maybe another ultra-rapid electric car like a Remac Nevera?
@electric8668Ай бұрын
I hope Sapphire Air Lucid vs Rimac Nevera will be next.
@nickfarrington2390Ай бұрын
Knocking it out of the park guys, keep them coming...
@KevinValdesАй бұрын
I've had my Sapphire for about 7 months now. I daily it and it's the best car I have ever owned. You do eventually get used to the speed though. Whenever I drive my 720S, it feels slow and clunky in comparison (it is more "raw" though, driving that is an occasion. Meanwhile I go to Publix in my Sapphire) I am happy that the car is the biggest sleeper ever and attracts zero attention. Outside of an automotive event, I've only been approached twice on the street by people asking if my car is a Sapphire. Which is not a bad thing, I'd probably be in a bit more trouble if it did attract attention. Funnily enough, other than a Lucid event, I have yet to see another Sapphire in person besides mine. I've seen more McLaren F1's in person than Sapphires.
@nordicvolkanАй бұрын
Yea this was epic & super fun to watch . 👍
@nigels6786Ай бұрын
I think plaid vs tycan would've been a better match up
@TurboJLoАй бұрын
Was the button for 10 second power boost on the Taycan Turbo GT used at all?
@G82WattsАй бұрын
I noticed that aswell.. they never even mentioned it so I think they legit just forgot about it. We gotta remember that this isn't even that fastest variant of the turbo gt though aswell 😮
@TurboJLoАй бұрын
@@G82Watts If the Taycan was @ ~1019hp for the first 10 seconds after the launch and only ~800hp for the remaining 20 seconds of the race then it was a rather impressive showing for 400hp less for 2/3rds of the race IMHO
@justme307Ай бұрын
You think that 777 HP without it that it could do a 9.3 1/4-mile?
@TurboJLoАй бұрын
@@justme307 The power boost (ie max power) is automatically engaged with Launch Control so the 1/4 mile is done within the first 10 seconds thus using max power for only that part of the race since it appears they never pressed the button during the rest of the race. Wouldn't have won but would have been a bit closer.
@porkchopexpress6969Ай бұрын
@@G82Wattsdid you not watch, dude mentioned it in the beginning.
@EmilthehunАй бұрын
Crazy to think that there are 1k hp family cars driving around. What a great time to be alive!
@fj06carnoneАй бұрын
We finally found the replacement for displacement.
@jghall00Ай бұрын
Big electric motor > small electric motor.
@WindyCity1992Ай бұрын
Lol, no, we haven't. The Mcnurty Speirling is the only good example of going toe to toe with gas cars. Anybody can make an awd 1300 hp car accelerate fast. Love lucid though
@Illopp00ifyАй бұрын
@@jghall00 In this case the small electric motor is more powerful than the bigger (Porsche) one:)
@augustortizАй бұрын
@@WindyCity1992Rimac Nevera would tear any factory stock gas car apart and its not even close. And theres a Nevera R with 2100hp and less weight coming soon. I still prefer gas cars but let’s be real. These are really heavy sedans. There are plenty of videos showing how even heavily modded gas cars struggle with EV’s.
@larryc1616Ай бұрын
4680 Roadster = GAME OVER ⚡️🇺🇲
@RyuTsuchiyaАй бұрын
This was super exciting to watch
@Livelovelaugh684Ай бұрын
The lucid out-corning the Porsche…interesting indeed.
@wiktorturo2417Ай бұрын
traction not cornering
@G82WattsАй бұрын
New plaid vs taycan video they got 1.41 Gs for the cornering. Looks like they learned how to corner it better. Now it makes sense. Porsche handling is on another level!
@DodgeChallenger426Ай бұрын
@@G82Watts You can't just take numbers from another day - you never know how much the conditions changed. You can take exactly the same car and the same day and in the morning maybe you pull 1.20 G and in the afternoon 1.40 G.
@Designcaj12327 күн бұрын
Lol. 😂U dreaming
@chrismasey6959Ай бұрын
This was oddly entertaining and extremely boring at the same time.
@festo8885Ай бұрын
Sparky fans can argue all they want, but engines gearboxes and exhausts add a whole lot of drama that is just missing here
@Teejaay1Ай бұрын
believe me, it wouldn't be boring if you sat there
@artoodeetoo3064Ай бұрын
Fast but in a completely sterile and silent car. Don't think I could ever do it, let alone for 250k, in a car with battery tech that's obsolete in a year.
@lowvaeaterАй бұрын
Lucid inhouse powertrain and inhouse 1000 Hz ESP really does wonder.
@WestCoastSupercarsandClassicsАй бұрын
Great videos and great format! Bravo, finally we see a bit of comprehensive performance. Cars were surprisingly well matched, I'd love to drive that Taycan tho... it looks so good.
@DaBruteАй бұрын
I liked before it even started 😁
@drdetroitwheelsАй бұрын
I didn't think the Porsche would do that well against the lucid it is an absolute beast
@RadDadisRadАй бұрын
The Lucid looks similar to the Toyota Crown. Imagine being in the Porsche getting mopped by something that looks like a Toyota Crown. BTW I absolutely *LOVE* the Lucid Air Sapphire. 920V battery architecture future proofing itself as it has the highest battery architecture of anything out.
@Ac141118 күн бұрын
I am at a restaurant and stopped eating just to watch this. Omg , breaks my heart that the plaid is not the fastest anymore
@NzeRayeАй бұрын
I know people would say ...how about the Rimac nevera or the Batista,, but hey ,, what if lucid made a sports car in the same category as those two?
@jezza6575Ай бұрын
McMurtry Spierling would spank em all on a U-Drag!
@NzeRayeАй бұрын
@jezza6575 this is a track only fan car,
@N.WesselmannАй бұрын
The way Porsche can't reproduce max power without using Launch Control boost on subsequent runs... I mean, it's still a great car, but I guess times have changed a bit. Not being able to access full power consistently feels like the kind of thing Porsche fans used to criticize Tesla for. It's the age of computers, not just mechanical engineering anymore-at least when it comes to objective performance, emotions aside.
@zagato77904Ай бұрын
Already knew the outcome. It’s always been lucid > Plaid > Taycan.
@TroySavaryАй бұрын
You apparently missed the chart at the end. Taycan second spot, Plaid 5th.
@zagato77904Ай бұрын
@ even better. Glad garbage tesla last
@JeroennemanКүн бұрын
@@zagato77904 Yeah, absolute garbage right. A second slower, and half the price...
@jtherealtorАй бұрын
Imagine how much faster the Taycan would be if it had matching HP
@braven7426Ай бұрын
Or if the Lucid has less weight
@DragTimesАй бұрын
both cars trapping below normal....
@lowvaeaterАй бұрын
Tesla Roadster 2 was announced in November 2017 with similar performance as Sapphire, its been 7 years and accounting. On the other hand Lucid is achieving this with longer range on a luxury large sedan. Lucid is at least 7 years ahead of competition and counting.
@TB-vb3ovАй бұрын
Tesla will be doing 8.8 without the cold thrusters so the roadster will be quicker snd most definitely handle better
@r7cardosuarez806Ай бұрын
@@TB-vb3ovElon said the Roadster will do the quartermile in 3.4 seconds, but only if you vote him for president in 2032
@RRBOROOAHАй бұрын
I don't see a 400+ hp difference.
@romansenger2322Ай бұрын
Maybe because 1251hp minus 1108hp arent 400hp difference?!? The math aint mathing.
@RRBOROOAHАй бұрын
@@romansenger2322 According to the udrag numbers displayed at 0.44 Lucid- 1234 hp and Porsche 777 hp with a boost of 1092 hp for 8s. Lucid did 28.1s and Porsche 29.1s .So if we do the math and run the numbers Delta ------------------Avg. Power difference(hp)= (1234x28.1)/28.1 - (1092x8+777x21.1)/29.1 = 370.402061 hp. I hope math maths. :)
@RRBOROOAHАй бұрын
@@romansenger2322 I dont see a 370 hp difference.
@romansenger2322Ай бұрын
@@RRBOROOAH so we are comparing peak power only again, for EVs? Really? Electric field weakening? Back-EMF? Do we know the power curve? Could be the Lucid Hits peak power for a tiny rpm range. A Model 3 Performance for example has over 500hp only between 80-120km/h, after that its lower, at 200km/h its barely over 400hp. Real world is decided by the power curve, not some trump card numbers.
@spoolindsm127Ай бұрын
Gotta admit for the HP deficit the Porsche is crazy impressive
@braven7426Ай бұрын
It's also lighter
@r7cardosuarez806Ай бұрын
@@braven7426Still worse power to weight
@ericship8383Ай бұрын
1019 horsepower vs 1234 horsepower not surprised the plaid also makes 1200 horsepower too so the fact that the taycan has the worse power to weight outta the three and still keeps up with the sapphire and plaid in a straight line is impressive enough no doubt the taycan beats both in the corners though
@phillipcarroll6625Ай бұрын
Plaid makes 1020 not 1200
@sailorforlifebestti3366Ай бұрын
Paid us very uncomfortable to me. It seems unstable after certain speeds.
@ryanpuryearАй бұрын
@@ericship8383 Sapphire had higher G cornering in the test.
@LafemmebearMusicАй бұрын
It literally wasn’t better in the corners tho…😅
@braven7426Ай бұрын
1019 or 1092?
@DonLee1980Ай бұрын
Lucid made an insanely good car. But I have a suspicion that the TRofeo RS tires weren't hot enough to work properly. And given that the cars sit around for quite some time during filming, the tires were probably too cold. I know the Lucid handles great, but I'm pretty sure the Porsche should have the edge in braking and turning.
@Kimich-cf2vbАй бұрын
Porsche✌🏽
@peterhammer6915Ай бұрын
The Sapphire is incredible but I would still take the Porsche. Have been driving with my Taycan 4S now for almost 4 years and every time I sit in the car its a pleasure.
@azizmarzАй бұрын
You need to test drive the Air. You will not believe how good it is
@peterhammer6915Ай бұрын
@ its surely a great car but for slightly different purposes than the Taycan
@FrankGallagherrАй бұрын
Porsche is not all that
@Aggie4life77Ай бұрын
@@azizmarzthat Air is nice and fast as hell, but I’m picking that Porsche GT all day over it! Hell, I’ll take the Turbo or turbo S over it! You will never use those top speeds anywhere!
@azizmarzАй бұрын
@@Aggie4life77 exactly that why lucid is better. More comfortable, more range, messaging seats, best in class in storage space. It just better in every way.
@cedricedempsАй бұрын
So the car with more horsepower won Wow that's just amazing I would have never guessed it
@braven7426Ай бұрын
And the lighter car lost
@TechnicallyJeffАй бұрын
Very close! That's awesome. I'd love to have either one of these cars.
@sailorforlifebestti3366Ай бұрын
Retire the Sapphire Now!
@G82JesseАй бұрын
Porsche REALLY brought the power in their new upgrades when compared to the existing Taycan Turbo S. A 10.5 second quarter mile -> now a 9.3 is an absolutely monumental jump.
@MichelOM1995Ай бұрын
the porsche is really fast
@McBeamer94Ай бұрын
Watch the subtitles closely @4:05! 😜😂🤣
@origaminefretami3480Ай бұрын
All Tesla has going for it is price. German Porsche and the Saudi Lucid are the big dogs.
@thedumbconspirator4956Ай бұрын
Price is all it needs. It's 90% of the car for like 40% the price
@lynklynks7246Ай бұрын
@@thedumbconspirator4956 Exactly. Altima-driving keyboard warriors love to cosplay as millionaires debating which car they'd buy. 🤣 Of course I'd take the Lucid or the Porsche over the Tesla, but in the real world the Plaid track pack is the clear value proposition winner for anyone who isn't silly rich.
@lynklynks7246Ай бұрын
Also, not sure what you're getting at with the Saudi comment. Just because the Saudi gov't invested in Lucid doesn't mean it isn't still an American company. The Sapphire was designed and built by Americans.
@origaminefretami3480Ай бұрын
@@lynklynks7246 Without the Saudis, Lucid would be dead already, so better thank the Saudis 🇸🇦 Love how its all about speed until the Tesla is slower. Cope.
@r7cardosuarez806Ай бұрын
Americans love funding the Saudis. Porsche all day 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@michaelsavo-mg2pcАй бұрын
Porsche always does great with less horse power great engineering
@braven7426Ай бұрын
And less weight
@jozefjozefczyk3936Ай бұрын
Porsche lost 😂😂
@r7cardosuarez806Ай бұрын
True. German engineering is unmatched lol
@jazzi24881Ай бұрын
That tesla plaid is a bargain you can get a pre-owned for 50k vs 250k
@4literv6Ай бұрын
Exactly or a brand new one with the factory track pack for 110k with full warranty!
@Lando_SageАй бұрын
There's no plaid here?
@BBingo-v5iАй бұрын
You can buy them used for cheap because they are outdated, have zero reliability, are cheaply built and poorly equipped in the interior
@AfriqueNYАй бұрын
@@BBingo-v5i yes. A bargain
@Lando_SageАй бұрын
@@BBingo-v5i the other side of that is they share over 90% of parts with the Model S LR, where Sapphire and Air trims are almost different cars entirely.
@allin4onceАй бұрын
The Porche is amazing for having significance less HP and TQ and coming with car lengths. IF Porche wanted to, they could just thur it up 20% and move up to number one.
@romansenger2322Ай бұрын
Ferdinand Porsche is spinning in his grave for hearing how you butchered his name.
@lukabosnjak3829Ай бұрын
What do you mean if Porsche wanted, they had the opportunity and didn't do it, its not only slower for drag racing here but is a much less practical and luxury oriented car... For the same money
@r7cardosuarez806Ай бұрын
They will do that when the Plaid successor arrives, Lucid sells not enough cars to be a relevant competitor.
@isserdigan2835Ай бұрын
FYI the reason why Sapphire did not win the 0 to 60 was because it was on Track mode. They did that because it works better for the test vs only 0 to 60
@ryanpuryearАй бұрын
I asked after plaid v sapphire and you guys delivered!!! 😮😊
@RobertkajmanАй бұрын
Taycan Turbo GT Weissach is faster than Sapphire, that's a standard Turbo GT. The full power in Turbo GT is available only in 10s seconds when using overboost mode, standard power is on the level of 790 hp.
@danieltanuwijaya7675Ай бұрын
Non Weissach is used because Weissach removes the back seats. 4 seats vs 4 seats.
@reggiewhite4111Ай бұрын
The Lucid outcorners the Porsche We live in a strange world.
@Dingodil_1Ай бұрын
Only in murica they compare 900hp car with 1200hp car.
@urbanstrencanАй бұрын
Porsche Taycan Turbo GT for me all day long ❤❤❤
@GmbHRS7Ай бұрын
Plaid is still better just because of the price for $60k you can get 1100hp car and you’ll be smoking people left and right ,how often you see this $250 cars on the road? 🤣
@r7cardosuarez806Ай бұрын
Cope, Plaid aint shit
@garosama4517Ай бұрын
Lots of copium from the Americans as usual
@TheArkDocАй бұрын
It's impressive that a relatively new car company filled with techies just out performed the world standard in sports cars...at its own game. Really impressive.
@FLBoyCanScrapАй бұрын
Taycan just lost its Porsche badge today.
@ganymede6535Ай бұрын
Because it didnt beat the lucid😂? It beat 2 mclarens and the tesla and was really close to the lucid. Or is it because the taycan is electric?
@FLBoyCanScrapАй бұрын
@ganymede6535 Because if it actually had porsche braking and cornering, it would have beat lucid. Inexcusable especially since it was launching harder than the Lucid.
@hovanesmarkaryan896Ай бұрын
You’re joking right? The fastest production 911 ever would have been destroyed by the Taycan in this test The Lucid is no joke, it is literally the leader from all their tested cars
@FLBoyCanScrapАй бұрын
@hovanesmarkaryan896 the fastest 911 also wouldn't lose the cornering to the Lucid like the Taycan did. A Porsche Ev, that's supposed to drive like a Porsche, outcornered by a 10,000 lb aircraft carrier.
@ganymede6535Ай бұрын
@@FLBoyCanScrap you do know electric cars are heavier than gas cars right. Therefore they have a futher distance to stop. It didnt do bad its just the lucid is a more powerful car
@BestiaDuffАй бұрын
Love Licid.... the most underrated car... it's a monster ❤
@u.wunschel7311Ай бұрын
German EV 👍
@john.sАй бұрын
really interesting, cant wait for future models competing