Ultimate HVAC Hack Job Exposed How’d They Expect Puron Condenser to Work with Freon Air Handler

One of the top HVAC hack jobs I've come across - they installed a Bryant R410A outdoor AC condensing unit on an existing R22 air handling unit. Hackery at it's finest!
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[@dr.comforthvacr8889]

Amazing job expaling to the customer! *Unfortunate how someone can install something like this! *I am glad customers are blessed to have a contractor like you!!

[@lastchancefarm5913]

Have only run into that one time in 26 years. It was the result of an oversight by a young installation crew who at least knew there was an issue when the system was started and called for backup help from the service dept.

[@Silky_boi]

Good job keeping the industry honest Mike. This happened with us a while ago, idk how but my boss got a new condenser coil and compressor under warranty and then got a new 410A evaporator coil. We pressure tested and flushed the lines so that way we minimized the total for the customer.

[@thomaschatham9971]

You did not lie, you gave it her and the community straight as always. Keep it up Mikey.

[@berylwhite2983]

You did a great job as always.

[@DevinHVACInc]

Keeping it real as always. Having KU watching mikey pipes

[@soundslikebstome]

Ran into the same thing last month. Reason for call, repeated refrigerant leaks (7psi remaining) on recently installed 4 ton 410a condenser. Installer refused to answers or return calls any longer. Found the leak. To make a long story short, installed 410 txv - coil rated at 500 psi test pressure (never seen a physically larger 4 ton coil, it was huge). Evacuated, charged. SC/SH were spot on. All good so far.

[@ciscokid2444]

Mickey Pipes this is your early and biggest fan the Cisco Kid I filled out the form for you to do my oil to LP gas conversion. I know I’m two hours away but out of love for your biggest fan please consider doing this job for me I can maintain it locally after the install so it would be one and done. Boiler from Supplyhouse is back ordered until Sept so it’s not an emergency but you are the man and I want you! I cannot find someone that I’m confident in out here in PA.

[@The1realro]

I’m in a residential community in South Carolina. Property owners want to do this same thing with r22 indoor units with pistons. Hate that I have to break it to them. If I convince them to get the evap I will try my best to clean the line sets

[@PipeDoctor]

Try your best. Otherwise it’s job security. Disclaimer away. Cover your ass.

[@Rodzilla408]

Hacks brings us stacks 😆 I want you to tell the customer that. 😆 I haven't ran in to this but I would offer to change the furnace/Air handler with a compatible system to match the outside unit and flush her pipes out and add new refrigerant. And add a disclaimer on the condenser.

[@thefathvacguy6341]

Great video....honest and straight forward explanation to the customer...gave them options and now its in their hands..

[@benjamintimmins1656]

When I worked apt maint we used to put in new 410a condensers and use the same r22 piston evap..we flushed it out real good. We cut the liquid line and close the suction king valve...now we put the flush into the system. Then hook up nitrogen and blow out through suction valve and it goes out the liquid line...so all is good. It cools great. We dont even change the piston..its Goodman and it works!!!

[@Scorpionpaintgunreviews]

Yep sure does. I've personally done it with zero issues. Should it be done , probably not . I did as told by the client. But I'll have to say . No issues for over 6 years. He could save that system but I doubt it.

[@michaelroach8607]

Only once in my 20 years. As you said it fried the compressor on a two year old unit. Was so acidic the oil was black! Had to flush numerous times and install a pancake suction dryer and obviously change the air handler. Thankfully the compressor was warranted. But still a headache! Hacks bring us stacks!!!

[@kennethbubser9601]

Do it right Mikey. New slogan.

[@jaxsonhugh9334]

I would imagine that the outdoor units warranty is void by running a R22 txv on it

[@tomhaeussler6553]

I’ve seen it one time and it was old furnace and coil in basement and new condenser outside, I recommended they call the installing contractor back as it was only installed for a couple weeks but they had me replace the coil, filter drier and I removed the refrigerant and charged with new, that was 10-15 years ago as far as I know it’s still working, but that being a 5 ton system I bet your going to have ductwork issues too!

[@MariosACandRefrigeration]

if it has r407 c it will work with no problem.or if you install a .084 flowrader you can use r410a.there is an adapter to install the piston,and the oil is in the compressor.

[@jbairinc.147]

Just got the Hilmar pipe wiper, the shizzle!

[@891sparky]

Thanks for the good info..Yes Sir a lot of hacks just out to make a quick buck..Keep up the good work.Watch from Texas

[@mnhvacguy9788]

Mikey has a new fan and subscriber! Instead of rewiring everything look at Honeywell/Resideo’s Redlink set up. A 240vac to 24vac transformer added inside the condenser to power the ERM (Equipment Remote Module), the battery powered Redlink version of the Vision Pro 8000, the EIM (Equipment Interface Module) mounted at the air handler and that’s the only wiring needed. The thermostat and ERM talk to the EIM wirelessly to turn on the air handler and condensing unit, and if the homeowner wants wifi access then add the Redlink Internet Gateway. You can also add wireless indoor sensors to help balance out hot and cold spots in the house and an outdoor sensor if needed. We use it frequently where I work because although it can appear to be more expensive up front than pulling wire, when factoring in that the customer doesn’t need to repair sheet rock, paint, dealing with another contractor to make those repairs, etc… in many cases it’s actually cheaper. If they have the heat connected to RH and the cooling to Rc then you could still connect RH and W in the new thermostat to control heating and the thermostat would control cooling wirelessly, or put another ERM at the boiler so the same thermostat controls heating and cooling wirelessly I’ve had customers have me put the thermostat at the equipment instead of in the living space and install indoor sensors throughout the home. Then I disabled the temp sensor in the thermostat so only the remote sensors actually control the temp and the thermostat is just the human interface to set everything up and turn the equipment on and off. And no, I don’t work for Honeywell/Resideo, but I have taken a tour of their facility and labs here in town and talked to the engineers

[@zachareycraig4335]

Seen it before with a piston, quoted a new system and just a new air handler. Never heard back

[@chrisdevine5328]

Plenty of hacks in the philly area. I’ve seen it twice in my 3 years in the trade. You’d make a killing down here Mikey

[@tmacgee1234]

Only 2 times lol. I have seen the 2 stage bryant solenoid valve in the compressor trip the fuse. Not sure if thats single or double. That was an annoying problem to find haha. It ran in 1 stage no problem then blew fuse when it switched to 2nd stage. Compressor had to be changed in my case

[@deryatanbasi3046]

hacks bring stacks baby!!!!

[@goosubux]

We ran into that. The "installer" mixed two different refrigerants in the new AC when he installed. Needed a new outdoor unit and lines. Somehow my A-Coil survived.

[@billmiller5075]

The contractor before was too lazy to replace the coil and txv. Now we have mineral oil mixed with Poe oil. You could replace coil , txv and pull the charge out of outdoor condenser and replace filter drier and should be fine.

[@drodriguez394]

Can you articulate why mixing trace MO with POE is a bad thing? Because I can’t think of one reason.

[@joneidbo]

@@drodriguez394 some say you should not mix, many say it does not matter. One tech said they did hundreds of units with out flushing or replacing evaps and hand no problem. looked it up on a HVAC tech site. . Just replace the metering device, and explain that they most likely did not clean the mineral oil out of evap and lineset and that may cause issues, only time will tell. @10:30 she asks the question that gets him fumbling for an explanation. but good on Mikey for not editing it out and showing how he does the explaining for a complete system replacement. The fact is Mikey does not know if and how much oil was left in, and what damage that may cause. To push a whole system replacement is making stacks from hacks.

[@drodriguez394]

@@joneidbo it’s not a bad thing. Look at any retrofit guide from r22 which likely uses mineral oil to 407c which is only miscible to POE. The guid tells you to mix 20% of the oil. Or change the oil. . And we know you aren’t flushing out the compressor with a pipe wiper !

[@OleRazzleDazzler]

If I was putting my name on it, I’d change everything including the line set. After seeing the Hackery here. Don’t want to be married to that.

[@glennandvirginiamencer9794]

Came across a 2.5 ton R410a condenser hooked up to a 1.5 ton R-22 coil with capillary tube and (600 cfm) air handler. SH = 0 to 1. SC = 40. Was told it’s been running that way since March of 2021 (16 months). The client is happy with it for now because it’s definitely cooling the space. 🤔🤔🤔

[@compgb]

One time I saw a 410A Condenser with 407C in it.

[@texasoutlaw210]

Sucks for the homeowner. The least they could have done was also replace the evap coil with a 410 and txv plus filter drier and pull vacuum smh.

[@OleRazzleDazzler]

You know they didn’t pull a vacuum

[@martinrosa88]

Never seen it, always had r410 TXV on hand, as far as pipe cleaning you’re right almost no one does it

[@HVACOG]

I’ve ran into a 3 410a ton condenser installed on a 2 ton fan coil in the ceiling. The compressor died within 6 months. He replaced the compressor and then it didn’t work again and the system would kick off on low pressure. It was such a cluster f. To top it all off he wrote down the receipt in hand writing. The dude disappeared lol.

[@Ajax2341]

Same thing happen to me same nordyne and Bryant condensor except 4ton. The installer of the Bryant unit would not come back after several attempts to fix problem units evaporator coil would freeze up. I was referred by a friend of hers. I so happen to have a 4ton expansion valve in truck changed valve and filter drier got it back on works great. With the r-22valve pressures were 80 suction and 450 head after repair 118 suction and 360 head pressure . That was 4 years ago. Went by about month ago clogged condensate drain checked pressures working good this lady didn’t have very much money that’s why I did what I did. But yes I would have changed The Whole system. I worked on her system and told her no guarantees.

[@ericbuker554]

Unfortunately with all the EPA changes over the last few years and upcoming years we are going to see this happening more and more. Also with the increasing prices of R-22 (if you can find it) $1,700.00 a jug down here in TX. I'm a Chief engineer of a hotel with 30 split systems and package units. Not counting the 163 PTACs. I am the only certified HVAC on property. And 7 Navien heaters. (Wish I had started watching you before we got them 2 years ago) keep up the good work and videos!!!!

[@OleRazzleDazzler]

Lol. I like how you frenched up being a maintenance man.

[@rickybennett1403]

3 x 410 a outdoor with r22 indoor, 2 x replaced both units, 1 x just airhandler to match outdoor

[@lawrencedigiovanni9004]

Working on a job like that now contractors are too lazy to replace the indoor unit so they left the old indoor unit installed a new outdoor unit and the outdoor unit lost its refrigerant due to a leak in the system which they never bothered the test.

[@jnjscoots]

I’ve seen it air handler was impossible to get to . It actually worked though & is still working to this day . Not saying it’s going to last. But we did flush the lines . Not going to lie you probably are the only contractor that uses pipe wiper lol deff does a great job but seems excesssive

[@leoreyes6157]

you your stuff

[@stevebeideman8932]

Wow I just had one last week. The guy said he just had a guy replace his condenser three weeks ago and has not worked right since install and he could not get ahold of the guy. He had two other companies come out and they tried adding refrigerant but did not know why it wasn’t cooling. Yea found 2 1/2 ton evap coil with R22 Txv and a 3 ton r410a condenser and a lineset that goes from 7/8” to 3/4” to 5/8”. I told him I would recommend replace the complete a/c system . He only wanted to do the evap and he wanted to get it and have me install. I told him I’m not interested.

[@AustinAirCo]

The customer is always right. She's only staying there 4 more years. The other issue is that condenser doesn't have enough air to breathe -- two sides covered that would never fly here even with the proper metering device. The way I view this is: It is broken now. I lay it all out give choices it's not my decision to make. I am there to fix it. Even if all they could do is replace that TXV & fix the short. If it breaks again the only thing they get a break on for a year is that TXV. It breaks again whether it's 30 days or 2 years doesn't matter to me. I like to replace, but I like to repair just as much or more. Because if you can fix it for a time? That is a much bigger market. At some point, those will also lead to replacements. Right or wrong in terms of methods? Your climate is much less severe, so if I were in your climate I might think differently. Here in Katy, Texas I see nice pretty installed units by builders and others that don't work worth a dime. They only know to install, not to fix. I don't want to be known as an equipment pusher that can't fix anything. Certainly there is a fine line to that. You can also argue if you touch it you bought it. But that is only because you lack the skills and verbage to fill out the invoice for what is covered and what isn't. All HVAC companies that I know of will recharge a unit (most of them) even when we all know refrigerant isn't covered by any warranty period.

[@mattwoodbridge7924]

I think ive only seen that once, for me to go further, it would be a 410-a coil to bid.

[@JT-gn4wh]

Replace txv with 5 ton r410 , pressure test , pull a triple vac and maybe leave a note for the next tech a few years down the road

[@mishaj2238]

Just need to install a R410A expansion valve on the old A/H.

[@southernbassin]

Change the EVAP coil out with a r410a coil. But before you do that flush the hell out of the lines and condenser. Make sure to pull a good vacuum and call it a day save the customer some money. But obviously I would recommend a new air handler as well. I always believe it’s the best thing to give the customers all the options possible.

[@justfixit9726]

Had a plumber friend on staten island dump r410a ontop of the r22 system cause it was cheaper. Were not friends no more...

[@arrowrod]

Wow! An electrical problem. So, you inspect the TXV? What was the Subcool after you fixed the electrical problem?

[@jphuttner]

When you say air handler for this job does that mean the coil and the blower or just the evaporator coil? U mentioned the short. Good job explaining it.

[@JM-yx1lm]

Just the coil. No need to replace the whole thing.

[@donaldclark1872]

I have come across this one time. Wasn’t able to fix it. Customer said they would make the company that installed it come and fix it on their own dime.

[@instinct_cast_1519]

I am surprised at the system even Worked

[@gtpforever]

I have never personally ran into this. When it's running does it do anything specific that makes it stand out as a problem? Such as noises or strange temps or pressures?? I want to file this in my memory just in case. Lol

[@instinct_cast_1519]

I'm pretty sure that would cross contaminate the Refrigerant ?

[@mattbauckman9907]

I wonder how the system performed last summer?😆

[@arealmaintenanceandrepairl1103]

i was maint supervisor for apartments they had traveling hvac guy he would change out condenser only mismatched whole property units would last not even a year before having issues plus he didn't know how to hook up reversing valve

[@Chris_In_Texas]

I am assuming that Bryant would void the warranty on that unit with the way its currently installed.

[@rjv1415]

4 times I ran into a 410A on a R22 evap

[@ThermalSolutionsHVACR]

Were the evaporator also design for 410a?.. some are actually designed for either 22 or 410

[@Scorpionpaintgunreviews]

You could save that system . But I'm sure your more concerned with top dollar than good deeds.

[@lilweezy110]

personally i dont use pipe wper. I just flush the system with rx11 really good and blow nitrogen, Over sized discharge line filter 163s and a suction line filter if it was a burnout or if i feel like too much oil came out of the lineset.

[@throttlebottle5906]

early in video, I wonder if it's ever R410a, because they could have jammed in some R22 replacement gas blend instead. yes, the warranty is instantly voided, but it "would" work if sized and charged right, it may even last a long time before failure if there's no leaks! no I don't recommend doing things like that, but there's people who do it all the time, complete with tail-light warranty. 🙃

[@MrAgsProd]

First company I worked for would replace 22 condensers with 410, and use a 5 ton 22 txv for 3 ton 410 mismatched…. Total fucking hacks, was there only a month before I knew I was learning the wrong way!

[@tedsmith5058]

Hello from the great state of Michigan. Saint Mike thank you for the great video the only way to go is a new air handler new condensing unit and a new lineset

[@michaelcooper8244]

Can’t wait for saint mike to do a give away so I can get a sweet pipe doctor flex fit hat!

[@michaelcooper8244]

As much as you want that Porsche

[@andydelle4509]

Question? Can you take an R410 condenser, recover the R410, then re-charge the system with R22? I have read the oil in the compressor is not really a problem? I know R22 is obsolete and very expensive. But what if the customer has over 100lbs (four 30lb cans) of factory fresh new R22 on hand?

[@johnnoland4249]

Daniel was on a call recently where he had the same situation, and assumed they had changed the txv so he filled it up with 410A hmmmm./...

[@joelschultz3652]

I’ve been doing this 15 years and have never seen that done

[@jbertz02]

Hey Mikey, do you service on Medford?

[@jbertz02]

@@PipeDoctor ok, any one to recommend that you know? Thank you!

[@jddilligaff]

Seen that once found the txv after a compressor replacement when I couldn't get the pressures where I liked them . the unit was only a year old both indoor and outdoor where changed at the same time . the installer did not check the txv he just fired it off and walked away .I think it was a failure on both the Trane dealer and Installer they should have seen it needed a 410 A txv . I got paid either way .the compressor is doomed

[@peterdutile8012]

Not all lost. Too bad previous contractor wasn’t informed on proper service. However, replace fan coil, remove compressor, replace oil with new poe, reinstall, replace drier, do proper evacuation, recharge. System should run fine! 🐧

[@gainestruk1]

Mikie just curios, if air handler still doing good why not replace the coil rather than whole blower, thats what I did last year, changed 21 year old R22 condenser and put a new R410A coil in furnace, my furnace is in great shape, we had no problem fitting a new coil in old unit, I also went from 2 ton to 2.5 tone condenser and coil, I live in Oklahoma so you might have different rules up there. Not trying to start anything ,, just thinking you could save lady some money, she is in tough situation, hopefully you told her to go after other contractor

[@eddiew.6485]

I think the same hack that “repaired” the system last was the same guy who installed that Deck! Did you see the support columns (or lack there of) on that thing!

[@ranger178]

wow that is one of those decks you see on tv 20 people fall when deck collapses

[@eddiew.6485]

@@ranger178 👍

[@xmasgoose5889]

Honest question, can the solder joints handle the higher pressure? Especially with that many joints?

[@brooksparadis2230]

Yes...when u test for a leak u should put at least 400 psi in it

[@brooksparadis2230]

And r22 psi level is around 60 psi ..410a around 120 psi

[@williamserver4332]

I've never seen it but know guys who have. When you get to a level of hacckery like that its a guy who truely doesn't know he's doing anything wrong

[@jamesmcevoy1274]

So what would you pay a 5 yrs service tech. Hate my job recently 700 a week lol.

[@tonydelgrego2906]

Another option is a 407 C dry condenser and not touch the air handler. As long there are no leaks.

[@MariosACandRefrigeration]

@@PipeDoctor 15 k reasons.

[@jenko701]

The other company should be responsible for this screw up .

[@kennethbubser9601]

Seen it before. I would take unswet compressor dump oil out. Replace airhandler. Have a suction and liquid filter drier installed. Or replace everything so shit don’t come back on me if ac don’t last ten to fifteen years or more

[@kennethbubser9601]

Agreed. Get that hack job out start over. Tired of people who have system that has a big problem that we didn’t install and want us to find problem for them to say next year will replace. Just fix it.

[@kennethbubser9601]

Love how you deal with customer and have them sign off. After you gave them there options.

[@Mike-hs8fq]

In my next life, I want to be an HVAC mechanic, schooled by Mikey Pipes!

[@kevinpoore5626]

Hey I'm 25 I wish I was 25 again another 20 years to that hope everybody had a good Monday Monday

[@abcdefghi2175]

DONT LIVE IN THE PAST

[@kennylavay8492]

I would suggest for you to replace what needs to be replaced. have the home owner pay you and go after the original hack who did not do the job correctly in small claims court. funny how some companies will leave all that shit inside the home knowing the home owner will never go look at the job that was done in the attic. that job was like trying to put ten pounds of shit in a two pound bag and hope it holds. another good video keep em coming.

[@mph5896]

Original company is out of business, lady said guy died. She prob paid little for the condenser swap out in the first place in comparison to doing it the right way. The right way is prob a $14k job in that area. Some hack could solder in a condenser for $3-4k.

[@stephwaylonwells3218]

👍

[@DevinHVACInc]

Is that a 5A fuse? Thought 3A usually on boards

[@benjamintimmins1656]

They use 5amp or 3amp blade fuses. Some also use transformer inline slo-blo 2amp fuse...

[@DevinHVACInc]

Figure it will take longer to burn the 5A and maybe that’s y they burning up transformers🤔

[@brooksparadis2230]

Someone might not of had a 3 and used a 5 I've seen it but don't recommend that

[@jamesfitzsimmons5218]

R410A systems are designed for R410A period.

[@deryatanbasi3046]

just a question i know the system is hacked but can you recover the system and change the txv to 410a and juice it back up or is that too much invested in that system?

[@joshuaholdridge7765]

Doubtful, if the evap coil is only designed for R22 then the design pressures are much lower than the operating pressures for 410A. Some coils are compatible with both but not all, and that evap coil was never replaced so I'd be surprised if it's rated for both 410A and R22.

[@deryatanbasi3046]

@@joshuaholdridge7765 ok thank you!!!

[@MariosACandRefrigeration]

R407 c is compatible with R22 txv and with the compressor oil poe.

[@1werewolf]

Saddest part is somebody is qualified to pick this equipment up and install it, yet doesn't knowwhat the hell they are doing. Scary, and why after 20 years in the biz and a little luck I will be departing it.

[@vinceleto]

Replace everything including the duct work or walk. Seems like a headache waiting to happen.

[@cmc7256]

Sweep that system man. Every customer says they are selling their house in two weeks. You try to rematch to that condenser and it will be nightmare fuel for sure.

[@zack79tampa32]

They pay cheap and hire whoever and expect us to make it right....i wont touch this system only recommend replacement

[@sirslabington3255]

Be surprised how often you see this out in Vegas.. Truly sad !

[@sirslabington3255]

@@PipeDoctor Put it this way mike… this summer alone 5 systems installed with in last 3 years… all hacked to shit

[@scottmaz4063]

Unfortunately replace it all.

[@ryans413]

I’m no tech here but I’m pretty sure you can’t mix equipment made for one gas with another. It be like putting diesel in a gas car it won’t work.

[@robertlamey7612]

Home warranty contractors do this crap all the time around my area

[@zacharypalczynski8450]

Replace it all

[@jacktorres8691]

hope Chris is doing better. i miss his humor. whitees for breakfast, classic. lmao. another example of a cheap homeowner. cheap is not always cheap. i do not tlike them and charge a "premium" when they hire me. wonder if she has paperwork from the "previous" company she used? i suspect the answer is no. I would have told her,....i ll change the air handler only, and only with the understanding that i can not give you any warranty. zero, on the whole system, zero. I give my customers a 5 year warranty, bumper to bumper on any new installs. with the condition that they can prove yearly maintenance. I give them 7 year bumper to bumper if i do the yearly service. i stand behind my work, just like the DOCTOR.....great video, sweet dog.

[@mikehansen191]

Pft...Whats the big deal. Just keep kinking the liquid line before the r22 txv... until it works...may have to move the bulb too...10 minute job. Great advise! Replace line sets and equipment / nothing is made to last anymore

[@Swoliosis1]

Wow. Crazy prices. Reminds me of a buddy whose A/C went out on a hot Sunday night, after just having a baby... Paid over $600 for the most expensive outfit in town to come and replace the capacitor on the outdoor unit. But it sounds like you'd charge $400 for that even during standard business hours.

[@eddiew.6485]

Long Island, NY service area……. Normal rates.

[@Swoliosis1]

@@eddiew.6485 Crazy.... The reason why I keep contactors, caps, fuses, filters, on hand at all times.

[@cmc7256]

It's expensive? You're paying a premium for a technician to come out, after hours, on a Sunday. Pulling him away from his family and his own life for immediate service. And a single call basically pulls half your day for a technician. As for the $400. Depending on your area that can be just fine. There is a mountain more to a repair than the cost of the part.

[@jacktorres8691]

Hourly fee for the Doctor in LI NY....for an honest, reliable, and knowledgable HVAC professional is reasonable. He also has a two man team. Many companies use a one man truck to save money. Doctor does not cut corners. Emergency service is usually triple hourly rate. That is normal. Holiday plus emergency rate, now we are talking! as long as the customer knows. It is their stack!

[@mph5896]

Those are the prices you pay for a professional in a high $ are to fix stuff. I am a mechanic by trade and DIY on just about everything from my cars to my house. Throwing in a cap for $20 or an igniter on my own system keeps $ in my pocket. Heck, I even did a swap out on my house 6-7 years ago on the central air. Those that lack the skillset pay for the professionals $$$

[@drodriguez394]

In fact, Honeywell’s retrofit guid for r22 to 407c requires you either change the mineral oil to poe since 407c, like 410a is only miscible with POE. You flushing the compressor out? I don’t think so. Another option they offer is to add 20% of Poe to the existing mineral oil for miscibility purposes. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MIXING OILS. not dangerous.

[@drodriguez394]

Spreading mis information mikeypipes

[@jrm8555]

@@PipeDoctor This is what he was trying to explain. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmS4aKWfl5aJpNk

[@drodriguez394]

@@PipeDoctor respectfully can you articulate why it’s not good to mix oil? Even trace amounts?

[@drodriguez394]

@@PipeDoctor still waiting. This is not an attack on you. This is something I hear all the time, “it’s not ok to mix oil because… the supply house guy said so… the guy on KZbin said so… my sisters cousins friends boss said so” Look at Honeywell’s retrofit guidelines ! Or any other retrofit guidelines. The writing is on the wall. I’m doubtful you have more R&D than Honeywell.

[@barronweir123]

Growing up in my family business they did this stuff.... if you said its wrong they would try to fight you or something.

[@barronweir123]

@@PipeDoctor I got my own license and left. The old man is 80 something and a narcissit. Great at pulling the wool over these customers eyes. And then says how much experience he has blah blah.

[@prestigemechanical3600]

Replace the whole system. Cheap labor ain’t skilled and skilled labor ain’t cheap. When people contract with the cheapest this is what they get. HVAC is not a one size fits all and even though people may like to do this line work however they don’t deserve to be and need to get out of the game

[@SubStationSparky]

that attic is insulated on the roof and floor=FAIL

[@steveblake8766]

455 thumbs up

[@johnwalker890]

I think you tried to be honest, but I think you were telling her what she didn't want to hear, she wanted a quick fix on the equipment and you told her it wasn't done correctly, oh well you can only do so much if the customer doesn't want to pay.

[@gabrielguerro8449]

Mickey I got tired of watching these stairs didn't learn nothing

[@rp4323]

Replace it all.