Ultimate Off-Roader: KTM 890 ADV R vs Yamaha Tenere 700

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@ironinfidel7792
@ironinfidel7792 Жыл бұрын
You keep calling the tech on the KTM a " gimmick ". Tells me all I need to Know right there.
@gillesgenete9598
@gillesgenete9598 Жыл бұрын
Great and fair honest review, thank you. On my side, I tested them all, AfricaTwin1100, DucatiDesertX, Norden901, Tenere700, Tuareg660. I was close to a deal for the Tuareg when I found a brand new 890R of 2021 at a bargain price: she is now in my garage. Anyway the Tuareg660 was excellent, I felt better on it than the Tenere, my background being enduro bikes. I had WRF400, WRF250, EXCF450, EXCF500, and I feel good on the 890R. DesertX is excellent too but price is insane. Tuareg660 is pretty close to my 890, handling and engine feel, but 890R is 1 step above.
@feezee82
@feezee82 Жыл бұрын
What about the Africa Twin? At least 2016 model can be purchased for a pretty decent price already.
@gillesgenete9598
@gillesgenete9598 Жыл бұрын
@@feezee82 I rode with a 2016 CRF1000L DCT for 45.000km, half of it on TET like tracks. It is an excellent bike for TET, especially with DCT, excellent suspensions, well balanced chassis, very torquey engine at low revs. Only drawback for me is weight as I 'm getting older (66 years old), hard to to lift up when dropped in a deep rut alone. I won't ride my 890R offroad, better with my 500excf, 108kg I can manage alone.
@feezee82
@feezee82 Жыл бұрын
@@gillesgenete9598 thanks for the answer! I’m considering getting either Tenere 700 or Africa Twin 1000. So just doing lots of research.
@Bowiehair
@Bowiehair Жыл бұрын
Dunno but it looks like ya could have adjusted the forks on the tenere. Did ya?? Very confused cause you stated you upgraded.
@l1qu1dm3t4lIV
@l1qu1dm3t4lIV Жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a T7 for a while. I love that it's one of the few bikes that lacks (most) of the modern electronic trickery. I want to see how bad a rider I am, not have a computer fix it for me.
@willbaker920
@willbaker920 2 жыл бұрын
Great review guys. I own the T7 and added the Rally Raid suspension. It really made the bike feel a lot better all around. Should have come like that from the factory.
@chrisvantassel8867
@chrisvantassel8867 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@JoeJ523
@JoeJ523 Жыл бұрын
How much was the rally raid suspension installed?
@kysakexpress
@kysakexpress Жыл бұрын
@@JoeJ523 mine with Tractive Xtreme shock and Rally Raid open cartridge, installed 2700 euro in Slovakia.
@Jh-mp2rd
@Jh-mp2rd Жыл бұрын
As a taller rider 186cm I went with the 2024 tenere 700. Just picked it up. I like the review you guys give. I went for the tenere because it is simple. I dont like throttle by wire on any motorcycle, especially dont like all the traction control and buttons, maybe some day I will. Fyi, the new display on the tenere is way better than older versions.
@marcochavane3124
@marcochavane3124 Жыл бұрын
I have had a WR250R I put 20k miles on. Then two WR450Fs with similar miles. Big Yamaha fam. Im choosing the Norden 901 or the KTM 890 Adventure R for my next bike. I dont need a "crutch" to make it through a trail with my skill level, but I can appreciate not feeling ad fatigued from riding a more top heavy and slower bike at the same pace. I rode a T7 anf 890 Adventure R back to back and the KTM is a lot easier to ride at highway speeds as well as low speed technical riding with its lower slung center of gravity. The question reallt becomes more about "value". If you want to ride safer on rougher stuff you will need to drop a few grand on the Tenere suspension. Then at that point, the price difference is a lot closer so "value" gets a lot more subjective.
@RedRupert64
@RedRupert64 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your views. You don't need to buy the electronic aids when you order the KTM. Mine has none of the extras, for the reasons you stated. The Yamaha is not powerful enough for road riding - I use every horse power the KTM has, but when off-road I regulate the power with the cylindrical device on the right of the handle bars. I've been doing this for 43 years! In my view the KTM's suspension is too hard - my sag figures are: front 50, rear 67. I would like to see around 80mm. I'm regular weight (85kg). This is a disappointment.
@SmokinZen
@SmokinZen 2 жыл бұрын
I have a T7 but I have to say I felt really well sitting on 890 but I don’t do as radical riding as you guys so the suspension isn’t a problem for my type of riding with it…for now haha
@rushiiiop
@rushiiiop Жыл бұрын
my old 990 adv help me a lot, almost any trail was a piece of cake, now with the tenere 700 feels a little more of a workout but with time I will probably dial up the wrist to handle the bike. A little price to paid for reliability poor 990 almost 16 years old, I was like the 8th owner and full of electrical gremlins. I still miss you 990 :,D
@TriAngles3D
@TriAngles3D Жыл бұрын
Really good review. The T7 engine torque and quality, ride position, the KTM suspension, design and parts, cut out all the silly electronics...That's the bike that works?
@brahimboulkoroum6701
@brahimboulkoroum6701 5 ай бұрын
Hello, please the title of the song on this video Thank''s
@Der_Meikel
@Der_Meikel Жыл бұрын
Hey guys - this is an awesome video in the sense of how you compared the two bikes - would you be able to do something similiar with the T7 World Raid to see how the new suspension works in comparison?? THAT would be double awesome ;-) cheers Rgs from germany ;-) Mike
@fcdrum
@fcdrum 2 жыл бұрын
Two great machines. I love T7, my choice is T7. GREAT VIDEO!! Thanks
@FrancoisTX1974
@FrancoisTX1974 6 ай бұрын
I think k you compared the wrong bikes, 890S and T7 or 890R vs T7 extrême but we do not have it in US
@PetterIvarsson
@PetterIvarsson Жыл бұрын
informative, very nice form of review when you talked to each other
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 Жыл бұрын
The Tuareg 660 solves the problem of having to choose between the 890, and the T7. The Tuareg660 solves the problems of both, low seat, low centre of gravity, topnotch suspension, just enough, superb electronics, proper creature comforts, sporty, and above all fun. As for long term reliability, the Aprilia Tuono 660, the base of the Tuareg, is a good indication. I think the second iteration of the Aprilia Tuareg, will be unbeatable. Aprilia should work towards this end, because they have a winner on their hands.
@martyn_g
@martyn_g Жыл бұрын
Top notch suspension is the Xplor on the KTM;) and the weight isn’t as low as the KTM either. And type in “Tuareg issues” on YT. you’ll see a guy list all the issues he’s had, including leaking oil.
@NomadSweden
@NomadSweden 2 жыл бұрын
Well done with this video. Enjoyed it. Keep it up!
@timsalabimbombassa
@timsalabimbombassa 2 жыл бұрын
Riding a T7 now, with revalved suspension, which makes a proper difference. However I consider a KTM for the same reason as you: time for change. My only doubts are the ergonomics, since I am 1m93 tall. Would you think the KTM is less suited for taller riders?
@motoskillsfactory
@motoskillsfactory 2 жыл бұрын
The KTM is marginally more cramped. Bar height is the main difference and very easy to fix with risers. They offer a taller seat if your legs feel cramped. The wind protection really isn't great even for us. Sascha has the touring screen for long rides.
@jamesdumas6602
@jamesdumas6602 2 жыл бұрын
The Deal Breaker is that there are no Yamaha Tenere's at any Yamaha dealerships anywhere here in North Florida. My son just bought a '22 MT-09SP and I have $500 down on a new '23 KTM890
@gordonborsboom7460
@gordonborsboom7460 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary on the Yamaha. I agree on these positive/negative comments. The T7 suspension stock engineering is baffling considering how well the YZ/WR lines are widely regarded as having class leading suspensions. My T7 is amazing until you over-ride the suspension. Definite cost savings are throughout the T7. Unfortunately. World Raid edition addresses these issues for me except for cruise control. I have throttle hand fatigue on distance riding.
@nemerkha
@nemerkha Жыл бұрын
i have the World Raid. Kaoko throttle lock and no problem
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
for the T7's base price even spending $3000-$3500-USD on complete aftermarket suspension like the Tractive extreme units your still under budget of most of its competition
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 Жыл бұрын
Yes, bring on the Tuareg 660. Thanks, for the reviews.
@martyn_g
@martyn_g Жыл бұрын
And watch it leak oil…
@rc51bigdaddy
@rc51bigdaddy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Had an early 790r which I ended up selling for reasons unrelated to the bike. A couple of years later I was in the market again and went with the 890r. Considered the Tenere but the higher center of gravity, smaller fuel capacity, and stock suspension issues offset the higher price of the KTM. Both great bikes but the 890r is the perfect mid size adventure bike for me. Seems like the stock suspension on my 2022 890r is a bit more compliant than on the 790r I had. Overall reliability would go to the Tenere no doubt. So far my 890r has been fine but it's early days.
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
maybe mistakenly i bought the Husky 901 version instead of the 890"R" model but after spending additional big '$' on Tractive Extreme suspension i am very very happy with it , yes the low COG makes a big diff
@ManBikeSwag
@ManBikeSwag Жыл бұрын
Wow you guys have some crazy bike number plates !
@CBWANADA
@CBWANADA Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. My 790r still chuggin flawlessly 😅 Havent used it much as a pack mule for camping tho which isnwhy i bought it..best get on with that.
@Brasaussie
@Brasaussie Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review
@derekhosken1899
@derekhosken1899 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an interesting comparison. It would seem that for the type of riding that Sacha does, the KTM 690 would be ideal?
@motoskillsfactory
@motoskillsfactory 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. He regularly does long tours around the island where a twin is really good to have.
@tarded400
@tarded400 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a T9 with comparable hp to the KDM, similar weight and minimal electronics. I’d buy one
@TheWrigle
@TheWrigle Жыл бұрын
I don't know of I would want more power than the t7 off road without any sort of traction control.
@jackolbean4765
@jackolbean4765 Жыл бұрын
@@TheWrigle highway might be nice
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
magic , me 2
@larryvaughn7243
@larryvaughn7243 11 ай бұрын
I love both. Totally different machines. Pros and cons with both. I own each and question the $5000 difference going down dirt and gravel roads, but ripping goes to the KTM.
@Mavo1989
@Mavo1989 5 ай бұрын
The world raid tenere fixes the issues with the suspension... but also yamaha has come out with a few other variants of the tenere as well like the rally and explorer which are above the base model t700... i have not have had the opportunity at all to ride both bikes as a comparision and really it all comes down to the riders needs, the ktm is much much easier for the novice to ride and shorter riders when 99% of people buying the bike are only going to ride fire trails and some dirt roads to travel (adventure) to a destination.... not so much use it as a dirt bike... this is where its really hard when you can have an amazing ktm 500 exc-f as a light weight ADV for the real enduro cross and heavy rides but also just have the mid size bike for the long accross the country rides
@christianmouraux7269
@christianmouraux7269 2 жыл бұрын
Traction control is not needed with low power engine like the T7, on the 890 it is a must! Both bikes are awesome !
@Kol4pse
@Kol4pse 2 жыл бұрын
its not about the "low power engine", its about how smooth it is to control the engine. But if puahed hard, it turns into a beast off road.
@pretorianeu
@pretorianeu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kol4pse It is only about the rider. I grew up with bikes in 90`. Throug Yamaha Super Tenere up to KTM 950 Adventure. I don`t want anything to interfere with my riding. Now I`m riding KTM 1290 Super Adventure R, always on SPORT mode and traction control off. Yes, it is agressive, but it is an advantage when go offroad. I just hate when I want to get through mud or sand and traction control stops me…
@AdventureRider_Rob
@AdventureRider_Rob Жыл бұрын
What, do you think the Yamaha won’t wheel spin? Oh my days 🤦‍♂️
@twowheelpilot
@twowheelpilot Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureRider_Rob unlikely with that engine. It's no 1290! TC on a T7 would be a waste of time.
@jpk0612
@jpk0612 Жыл бұрын
Or just learn to ride 😂
@chrisvantassel8867
@chrisvantassel8867 Жыл бұрын
Now that some time has gone by it is interesting to see how both of these companies have reacted to opinions and comparisons. As of now KTM has completely improved the 890R (2023) and Yamaha has done what Yamaha always does and are still sitting their thumbs. You still cannot get a T7 for the most part here in the states, the only one you can get in the states is the original at a massively elevated price which means you would be paying for old tech on the T7 vs brand new everything on the 890R and you would be paying the same price. Yamaha is so freakin stupid it blows my mind. The fact that the World Raid and other improved models are not available in the states is such a massive oversight by Yamaha. That being said, and I can't be the only one to make this move.....I would have strongly considered the T7 World Raid since it is a proper competitor to everything else but nope, not available. What did I do? I just bought the Desert X and I may, down the road, also get the 890R. How a company as large as Yamaha cannot keep up with KTM blows my mind because supply chain issues affect everyone equally. I can't even imagine the amount of sales Yamaha is losing because of how behind they are. I can attest to one case that is for sure. This has nothing to do with how good and how reliable Yamaha bikes are and they are it just points out which manufactures want it more. The original T7 is a great bike no doubt and it is a budget friendly bike but it is nowhere in the league of the 890 or Desert X......the World Raid is.
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
what did you buy ?? i agree with all your points was in the same dilema
@chrisvantassel8867
@chrisvantassel8867 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomedude445 I ended up buying the Ducati Desert X. It was more expensive but it literally has no weaknesses. It is amazing on road and off road. It has every feature you need, expandable gas tank, cruise control, etc. I find the DX to be closer to the T7 than the 890 but has the balance of the 890, great suspension, faster than both and feels like a true off-road capable machine. Because it is longer it is more stable off road and does not get as harshly deflected. The rider modes are very impactful and the tech is the best in the class. For me it was worth paying more and I even got the Termy exhaust upgrade with the Evo tech package. The T7 is a bargain but if did the same tings to the T7 that already exist on the DX you would end up paying the same. Ducati was very clever in the DX design. I would have considered the World Raid but Yamaha is just plain stupid for not bringing it here. Anyway, good luck!
@anymouse6202
@anymouse6202 10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@gradocchio
@gradocchio 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, for the Tenere I would order it from new with the YA8-18000-00-00 Ohlins T7 YA818 Rear Shock and FKA-11400-00-00 Ohlins Front Shock Cartridge options from new, be ready to go!
@sergia6513
@sergia6513 2 жыл бұрын
Those are not that good for pure off-road. Nix technology based off road racing bikes.
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
Tractive has the answer for the T7
@gradocchio
@gradocchio Жыл бұрын
@@justsomedude445 went with a new AJP PR7. More off-road oriented, almost 80kg lighter, comes with Rally screen and tablet, excellent suspension out of the box and less €€..
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
@@gradocchio ive seen one of those , looks trick but it is a single-1cyl dual sport right ? so far more comparable to the ktm690/husky701
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
@@gradocchio after looking up the spec's why would you buy it over a ktm690 or husky701 out of curiosity ?
@kx8960
@kx8960 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 890 R and love it. Yes, it's more expensive and there have been some small issues and the Austrians, like the Germans (i.e. my 2015 BMW S1000RR) do some really stupid shit trying to be clever which just makes things complicated and expensive. But overall, I think it's a much better bike in the dirt. It's more expensive, but has more power, handles better, and has much better suspension. I would have PREFERRED to have gotten a metric bike for reliability purposes but they had nothing to match the KTM's dirt ability. I'm 59 and getting back into dirtbiking after not riding for decades and I wanted a bike with the best dirt ability I could get to cover up MY flaws as much as possible so I can get my skills back at MY pace. I'm WAY more comfortable on the street even with pretty knobby tires, so I'm biasing it for being more comfortable for me in a medium (dirt) I'm not as comfortable in.
@robindigital
@robindigital 2 жыл бұрын
So whats the conclusion? 😅 it's not in the video?
@欣庭李-o1x
@欣庭李-o1x 2 жыл бұрын
It’s concluded separately in the video. 890R has better suspension. Teneré has better engine. Ergonomic wise the KTM is a better trail riding bike, T7 is a better long ranger Electronic, KTM is superior no doubt, but the Yamaha seems doesn’t need that much anyway, so it’s a mindset difference. Finally, they’re surprised that in their experience 890R is more reliable than T7, though the KTM comes across more issues but all small problems, but Teneré engine problem happened much earlier than expected. But it’s just their own experience narrowed down to only 2 bikes, can’t represent the entirety.
@nemerkha
@nemerkha Жыл бұрын
basically the T7 is better
@toddpillow3074
@toddpillow3074 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting that you’d call traction control a “gimmick” that is aiding the rider in some way that a more inherently tractable engine isn’t? So using this logic, wouldn’t you call better damped/sprung suspension an unfair rider assist???? IMO a better handling bike is more desirable no matter WHY it delivers.
@Motovibes91
@Motovibes91 2 жыл бұрын
I know the 890 advr has better everything (except reliability) but its also 4000-5000 euro more expensive! That's over 1/3 the price of the tenere!
@fredirojko4330
@fredirojko4330 29 күн бұрын
Let us compare apple and orange
@jianliu9420
@jianliu9420 3 ай бұрын
T700 has... Anti squat design Slimmer and lighter Simple electronic hence more reliable Lower compression hence crap gas in no man's land can be used CP2 engine, the most reliable engine
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 Жыл бұрын
Talk about misconceptions! T7 has no electronics, and supposed to have less things go wrong. Not in this case.
@tomg6284
@tomg6284 2 жыл бұрын
So he went from a darn good all rounder to a bike he is going to need to spend lots of $$ to get it right. Nuts. Just get the Aprilia, job done.
@Sinister_fartbox
@Sinister_fartbox 2 жыл бұрын
Haha no one buys them
@martyn_g
@martyn_g Жыл бұрын
…. And they leak oil;)
@kcpolog
@kcpolog Жыл бұрын
Well, that's a very ignorant opinion lol. A good all rounder that casually blows shocks and has brake failures. Ktm - performance over reliability, T7 - reliability over performance.
@Bowiehair
@Bowiehair Жыл бұрын
Lol good luck taking that in Baja or anything hard. Not sure where to get parts for that down here
@Ride2Xplore
@Ride2Xplore 2 жыл бұрын
I liked they way you analyzed both bikes. I'm currently looking to replace my 990 with either the 690 or the tenere 700 World raid.I was wondering if the world raid is any better compared to the 890.Thanks!
@motoskillsfactory
@motoskillsfactory 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a World Raid here. If we get a chance to ride one, we'll make a video about it for sure. I'm also very interested if the suspension is a big improvement.
@Ride2Xplore
@Ride2Xplore 2 жыл бұрын
@@motoskillsfactory Thanks!
@adriantompson
@adriantompson 2 жыл бұрын
world raid is a better bike straight out of the box ,no need to do suspension, carrys its weight lower as well. i have a T7 and world raid. ktm890R and 790R are good bikes have rode them and mate has got 890R. he rides T7 more off road than his ktm890R. we both have very good set up T7 . had my T7 39 months had one of the very first ones. done 15,000 miles. most of them have been off road. only thing i have had go on it is the side stand switch that i smashed on a rock, by pass it if you do a lot of off road.
@Ride2Xplore
@Ride2Xplore 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriantompson Thanks for the input !Do you have crash bars on the WR?I f i get one i plan not to install crash bars at all.I do very much off road in all sort of terrain.Thanks!
@adriantompson
@adriantompson 2 жыл бұрын
both bikes are good off road there is nothing between them you cant use all the power on the wr off road . only thing i can say about both bikes is the yam feels more like a enduro bike off road it turns so good. ktm890r does not turn in as good.. you have cruse control on the ktm . only thing you have on the T7 WR is you can turn abs off. you can run higher gears on yam any amount of torque. this sounds mad but on ktm you are up and down gears all the time and is easyer to stall. check my channel ride all sorts off road and on road. stock T7 has crap suspension. wr has good suspension. buy what you want ktm and yam are both good bikes .
@sdjblake
@sdjblake Жыл бұрын
KTM 890 ADVENTURE R ALL DAY!!
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
EVERY DAY !!
@kyjelly5524
@kyjelly5524 Жыл бұрын
I want the t7. I don’t want technology. Hi won’t be doing anything hard either. Just fire roads, twistys.
@RedRupert64
@RedRupert64 Жыл бұрын
The Aprilia 660 has a great chassis, similar to the Triumph 900, but it's a little top-heavy when compared to the KTM. The Aprilia's engine is dull and lacks power.
@adriantompson
@adriantompson 2 жыл бұрын
only bad thing on a ktm 890R is them tanks can get in the way off road. i ride a good set up T7 love it.
@motoskillsfactory
@motoskillsfactory 2 жыл бұрын
The T7 is definitely thinner. But we were riding some narrow trails and the tanks didn't cause any issues. They're impressively designed.
@skankfist8985
@skankfist8985 Жыл бұрын
I own a 23 890R. The stock bash plate on the tank has given no issues in situations I was questionable on. I have read that some aftermarket crash bars that add width down-low can catch rocks and other things but the stock tank and plate isn’t a problem.
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
that low tank design has been out for a long long time now and raced everywhere i have not seen anyone who has broken or damaged it yet have you ??
@adriantompson
@adriantompson Жыл бұрын
@@justsomedude445no but i have seen them get stuck because of the width of them. mate has a 890R and a T7 he will take the T7 when it gets tight and hard going. he loves his 890R but he does say the tanks get in the way some times.
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
so your contention is they use twin cyl adventure bikes for hard enduro then and they shockingly dont work as well as say a 250 1cyl 2stroke hard enduro bike ?? id have never guessed @@adriantompson
@damytzeus
@damytzeus Жыл бұрын
i look at my screen a lot while riding
@richardlennon4148
@richardlennon4148 2 жыл бұрын
In my country the KTM is about 50 percent dearer.
@martyn_g
@martyn_g Жыл бұрын
Poor bugger. Here in Australia, Tenere is $20K, 890R is just on $26K
@albert223998
@albert223998 2 жыл бұрын
Money also different ⋯⋯
@Sinister_fartbox
@Sinister_fartbox 2 жыл бұрын
Yes ktm are greedy bastards
@janvanhaas2826
@janvanhaas2826 10 ай бұрын
Funny that you called riders like Chris Birch a Starbucks rider for using a bike with gimmicks, to be clear i ride a 2007 990 Adventure S
@arnauddechamps855
@arnauddechamps855 Жыл бұрын
Nice but sorry to say, the T7 is almost 1/2 the price of the 890ADVR full package electronic stuff you do not need....but for sure nice trail. Also the T7 is heavier, but if you revalve the suspensions, then you got a nice bike.
@jpk0612
@jpk0612 Жыл бұрын
You can revalve and respring the t7 into a monster. Look at Camel adv. Even with all that still cheaper than the ktm and it won't blow up 😂
@rayrayray4116
@rayrayray4116 Жыл бұрын
Interesting he calls a 450 a “ small “ bike.
@motoskillsfactory
@motoskillsfactory Жыл бұрын
He means in comparison to 700-1300 cc adventure bikes. ;)
@demo3003
@demo3003 7 ай бұрын
Intros on short YT videos are annoying
@Ken-yp1dg
@Ken-yp1dg 2 жыл бұрын
Why go offroad with a bike that weighs over 400lbs?
@YSPDJapan
@YSPDJapan Жыл бұрын
Because you have a ton of power which comes into play when you get out on dirt roads. I ride a super tenere (600 lbs) and it's heavy, but with good tires and technique you can really throw it around, especially on flowing single/dual track. But when I get a stretch I can easily hit 70 mph, and if it's a dirt road I can easily do 100+ mph. It's all about your terrain. If you ride mountainous single track, sure, get a single cyl, but if you do any highway riding, dual track, dirt roads, a middle weight 2 cyl adventure bike will be more fun if you like to go fast.
@motoskillsfactory
@motoskillsfactory Жыл бұрын
The feeling of being able to go anywhere is really amazing. Sure, a single cylinder 450 is going to be better off-road, but being able to hit the single track and then the highway on the way home is really cool. Long distance rides are really where these bikes shine compared to smaller ones.
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Жыл бұрын
DIFF HORSES FOR DIFF COURSES !! but why not ??!! , when i see this type of comment i think of myself 25 years ago when i had not had the experiences ive had since then , i hope that you enjoy your motorcycling journey as much as i have and still am
@prosperpersonelle
@prosperpersonelle 11 ай бұрын
Yamaha RELIABILITY IS UNMATCHED
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 Жыл бұрын
Get yamaha to manufacture the ktm890 design. Problem solved. The T7, then, need not exist
@vasilypupkin2107
@vasilypupkin2107 Жыл бұрын
КТМ is Chinese, must be Austrian, and Yamaha is Japanese. So, nothing to compare.
@Roberta_Esposito
@Roberta_Esposito 10 ай бұрын
boom 666 likes
@Sinister_fartbox
@Sinister_fartbox 2 жыл бұрын
T7 wins easy
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