Valve Index Full Kit Definitive Review | Is this VR Headset for You and is it worth $1000?

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1:03 BUILD 2:46 VIDEO 6:21 AUDIO 8:21 CONTROLLERS 10:45 SOFTWARE & EASE OF USE 12:32 IS THIS HEADSET FOR YOU (CONSENSUS) Thank you for watching! Join up in the community! Come check out my discord: discord.gg/gQUt6Fk Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/ThrillSeekerYT

[@dtz1000]

@ThrillSeeker...Any idea what the point of having two lenses for each eye is? I have yet to see any review that answers that question.

[@mastah39]

One question on the clicking issue, it's comfortable to use the thumbstick without holding the controller in the first place? Because this is not designed to be held all the time and to click at an angle you need quite an amount of force on every controller.

[@SoroBoio]

@@dtz1000 they put 2 lenses and make ur eye a bit closer to them because it increases the FOV

[@spencershomaker8980]

What equalizer do you use?

[@dtz1000]

After 4 months, only one person tried to answer my question seriously. It gives me the impression the two lenses per eye thing from Valve was just marketing BS that doesn't do much other than increasing the God rays.

[@reemlsilkworm]

Are you seriously telling me the tightening nut at the back isn't a red valve?? What the actual?

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

There is a mod for that haha

[@mfhava]

Link?

[@BLU3NX]

Probably waiting for the special edition for when their new game comes out. XD

[@bluegames1]

​@@mfhava Just noticed your comment here, so here it is: www.thingiverse.com/thing:3772599

[@hexerade.e6142]

BlueGames im printing that

[@TheFluffyDuck]

Why get this when for the same price I can get an stand for a monitor from Apple?

[@loudicecream6772]

Or buy a gaming fridge

[@IgniKing]

The hardest decisions requires the strongest wills

[@MG-ko6jf]

When I potato, rainbow socks

[@populartrev]

M G what does that mean

[@Frisher1]

@@MG-ko6jf Translator Google?

[@leosefcik]

That moment where my Index’s microphone sounds better than my headset’s integrated one ;-;

[@David-ty6my]

Headset's integrated mic are often crap, even razer has crap mics

[@beeboi3628]

i dont want the whole thing, i just want those sexy ass controllers

[@joeyklein1007]

The_Beez Twitch good to know I’m not the only one

[@Quaxced]

same

[@mrfoxfam_doesstuff6252]

I just want to pair them to my wireless quest 2 bruh

[@KingHeadass44]

@@mrfoxfam_doesstuff6252 I don’t think you can, the quest 2 only can be connected to the quest 2 controllers.

[@legendarydog6377]

@@KingHeadass44 yeah and even if you could pair them with it you would still have to buy base stations anyways

[@AJsWorld]

3:04 Those extremely conspicuous pet hairs that remain right there through all the footage and close ups. I am irrationally annoyed by that.

[@HandledToaster2]

THIS. OH GOD WHY

[@mrkinetic]

Yeah, my OCD is triggered.

[@freakyfox5229]

I wanted to remove them.. SO BADLY... jeez x)

[@mBUSHattack]

I have this problem with cat hair and my psvr =/ drives me fucking insane

[@twerkingtwinkies2335]

I don't know how he can't see that. He pry doesn't care. Coz that is blatant af lol

[@gagebland7292]

I've got the index, everything is great. I've noticed that the speakers are not easily heard by anyone around you even when the volume is loud to you, I think that's cool as hell.

[@dharkbizkit]

but.. you hear everything in the round around you, right? i mean, theyre floating above you ears, so even the faintest sound will com throught to you

[@Shmozone]

I feel like VR tech has gone a long way since the oculus dk1 in 2013. I bought a rift S the other day, and I can only imagine what the tech will be like in another 6 years.

[@GarbageEPYC]

Well god damn it’s really been 6 years it feels like it was just yesterday

[@BB-nq5cx]

most likely mind transfer like tron or SAO, becuase everyone like valve and Elon musk are working towards that. Plus fingers crossed for flying cars

[@fren6908]

I was so young when the dk1 was made

[@kax2137]

VR hands whit feeling Feeling in VR Cheap

[@chrikke]

we're not that far from those 6 years you couldn't wait for. It is pretty crazy to think the Index used to be so insanely good

[@vmpere2637]

Your growth is insane, man! Great review :)

[@ShaneLee3292]

I'm gonna watch this video so many times for the next few days while waiting for mine

[@owenmetzger4905]

Can’t wait for mine to come in! Thanks for the review!

[@wyldegi]

I really like what’s going on in the VR industry right now. Oculus is trying to appeal for newcomers with lower prices, and Vive is producing quality headsets to push its limits. Despite which VR headset you have, each has its pros and cons, and we shouldn’t argue over which one is better because it depends per person. Let’s not make Oculus v Vive a thing, like heated controversies, such as iOS v Android. Have a great day!

[@Yume-Reborn]

It would be oculus v valve since the vive is actually a headset by valve and htc together :P eitherway, i completely agree here. I absolutely hate these silly wars about whats better haha!

[@Mincraftianbros]

That was a really profound and optimistic statement; I like it

[@user-qe7bt9dz1l]

WyldeGi Nah versus are always fun. One should be superior over the other. Don’t be so optimistic that you take the fun out of everything now.

[@F4c2a]

wtf has vive got to do with anything right now, they only have cosmos and that's it?

[@thebigpaff]

right now it would actually be Oculus vs Valve. HTC is not doing much

[@quitzxy5022]

Really really great review, honestly made me feel a lot more comfortable because my index is arriving tomorrow and I wanted some quality re-assurance

[@SuperTime2Change]

You mean you needed some fanatical assurance?

[@Pvt_PandaPear]

Mann rookie mistake! It worked out for you now, but NEVER watch reviews after you already bought the product, you wanna die? You know the bad reviews hide from you until you bought it right??

[@thume7762]

After 8 months how does it feels?

[@quitzxy5022]

Nothuman134 my index feels good, ive had some issues with controllers and the tether wearing but thats about it

[@quitzxy5022]

Nothuman134 the controllers have a problem with thumbstick drift, where with more stress on the stick, eventually they wear and cause inputs to stick

[@talik08]

4k subs in 2 month's great job! Keep up with the good VR content.

[@Fredboy]

you’re a super og

[@MinibattleLop]

This video is sooo clean! Props

[@Manic.miner2077]

Thanks for the full follow up review 👍

[@erichopp244]

Finally a review for the index 😈

[@Cusey]

Subscribed. Great review man, great video.

[@johnnyphillips1534]

My favorite in depth review so far. Usually don't comment but it was very detailed and hit every point that any consumer or someone who is considering buying would need to know.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

And this is my favorite comment on this video :) thank you!

[@beatsabergod3515]

@@ThrillSeekerVR then pin it

[@supremebeme]

Really great review, thanks!

[@ollie5566]

I’m so ready for my headset, I’ve used the PSVR for over a year and a half now and that’s awesome but it’s old tech now, I’m excited to see everything through the lenses on this amazing headset

[@thesupersaiyangamer1190]

OllieTM how good is it?

[@seanminor4728]

Watching this two years later because no headsets have beaten it yet😂

[@deadmemesrus1119]

Very good production quality my dude

[@eugenenalpin6058]

I heard that Valve was not intending on putting the thumbstick onto controllers, it was basically an afterthought, and Valve still seems to truly believe that teleportation is the only way to go. Still, a great review, and all about full Index package seems really cool!

[@QuixoticPenguin]

1400 dollar iPhone XS Max: Nah that's good it's justified with the stuff you get 1000 dollar cutting edge technology: The fuck did you bring upon this cursed land

[@ismarayfuentes6266]

Quest 2: Ive come to take your land

[@Spoonzey]

@@ismarayfuentes6266 nah valve index is way better

[@Benadryl_Overdoser]

@@Spoonzey valve index is incredibly undurable and has a lower screen resolution than the quest, sometimes the index basically self destructs. I chose to stay with vive headsets so I won’t have issues with durability or battery.

[@thebutterappletutorials6553]

Thanks for this video!! Gonna be upgrading to an rtx 2080 super and i7 10th gen and wanted a new VR upgrade from the Rift CV1, the headset looks way better and controllers seem super cool!!

[@mattmc20]

Guess I should have just waited a day on my rift S question you answered yesterday haha! Great review! But you got me down the rabbit hole with the Overwatch VR. Next thing i knew I watched like 5 of your videos in a row. Huge OW player here too! Have like 600 hours into and I still love it (especially when 2/2/2) comp comes out!

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Dude for real! Big OWL fan as well. Glad to have you here 😊

[@mattmc20]

ThrillSeeker Fuuuuuueeeeellllll!

[@xtremespecs]

What's your main on OW?

[@mattmc20]

xtremespecs personally, I Flex a lot. My “main” is Pharah with about 200 hours on her. However, with all the head clickers right now, I tend to play a lot of D.Va/Zarya, Mei and Zyn to fill in on team needs.

[@xtremespecs]

I main DPS hero such as Widow and Ashe. I love the game a lot. I'm surprised that he is playing on the hmd. That lag will mess you up.

[@isbestlizard]

WooooOooOOOOOO my preorder has been in so long now, so much longer than all of yours! I'm getting my index soon real soon much sooner than yoooooou and will be feasting up VR perfection yesssssSSSSSSSSS

[@acrius4012]

I didn't pre-order, i reserved. I've already purchased mine, and it's arriving within 2-3 days. Suck a frozen lump of shit.

[@3DImprint]

i love your videos so much keep up the amazing work

[@MrHogzor]

this will be my first VR experiense ever. can't wait for september :D

[@Americanspy-hn2kw]

MrHogzor did u get it?

[@ismarayfuentes6266]

@@Americanspy-hn2kw Probably

[@davidklem6186]

Nice vid, can you please make a video about your steps for setting up the index for sweetspot? would really appreciate a guide on that, since its more of a hit or miss for me when setting it up.

[@AccuracyGaming]

good review btw keep up the good work

[@tiddlez3948]

I bought this after wanting to upgrade my quest 2. Thank God I had that stimulus check, can't wait to get it!

[@Numberofthings]

Gave it a like before even started the video. Your channel is gonna go nuts in 2020. Keep going.

[@Numberofthings]

Bell notifications on.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

I hope so! Thanks man :)

[@Wongburger]

Thanks for getting to the points and not ranting about crap we don't care about!

[@mitch_56]

i made a mistake of watching reviews before my headset came, got absolutely terrifed after watching gethip videos, but seeing this made me feel very reassured so thanks lol

[@BULLSEYEBERRY]

It's not a perfect headset but man I'm enjoying mine! Been waiting for your review! Awesome job. 🤘🏾

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Didn't skimp out on this one. Finally made a video longer than 10 mins LOL

[@BULLSEYEBERRY]

@@ThrillSeekerVR lol and it shows! Definitely noticed the quality improvements. Nicceeee.

[@gilsegarra9573]

I have used other VR headsets and this one is worth it. My first VR buy.

[@HarryWinmill]

Do people not like subscribing to this channel because he deserves more!

[@Sillssa]

Bruh he's quadrupled his sub count in like a week.

[@BB-nq5cx]

@@Sillssa good to hear

[@Yetusyeet]

WOW. i have never seen a youtuber heart most of the comments. i love you content. keep up the good work

[@DesFTW_]

And if you are Canadian, the index is not available. The only way to get it is through eBay and paying huge import charges.

[@chickenbob562]

why?

[@DesFTW_]

@@chickenbob562 It says this product is unavailable in your region. I live in a big city so there is no good reason.

[@chickenbob562]

that's weird surprises me actually

[@DesFTW_]

@@chickenbob562 Ya IKR, can't get anything from valve

[@RezaMeetsWorld]

I ordered mine off Wantboard.ca. It arrived this week and I paid about $150 extra. Tbh worth it.

[@littlesnowflakepunk855]

The eye relief thing is also built into the Vive. It's kind of hidden away, but it's there

[@Gherrapowa]

nice video man, the review is on point of what i was thinking since the announcement, but HOLY SMOKES U CAN BUY TONS OF GAMES WITH 500 euro :C

[@mistamaog]

Quality review. Made me think you had a bigger channel. Also I find it interesting that the Valve Index Controllers also work with the Vive. Do you think there's some partnership with them?

[@youbetterleo3692]

Yeah, HTC and Valve worked together befor for the HTC Vive :)

[@grqfes]

they worked together for the vive so they both use the lighthouse tracking system making them interchangeable.

[@vortexx3028]

great video man!

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

Great review and view points! Lucky bugger!

[@Zairin.]

I'd love a revisit of this to see how it stands now. At least the software stuff goes.

[@sirplatinumslurk5565]

When he said the Index is not for you if you have low-end or mid-range PC my heart sunk so hard. I have ordered my headset and I'm getting it 12. December. I was worried and bummed out. But then the GTX 1080TI was mentioned as good enough and it just made my day!!!!

[@storm8639]

1 good job this video was great. 2 I’m binge watching valve index reviews because I’m too excited to get mine and this is the only way I calm down.

[@MrSpruce]

How has it been?

[@deadrat]

How has it been?

[@ok-gt2gq]

I found the g spot on the valve index and honestly loving it more and more

[@HighlyRegardted]

kraven 29 call the g man

[@DennAgain]

I have to wait till Sept 30th so itll be a late bday gift for myself, excited for the frunk and having the custome LED lights in the front

[@skept5924]

I have 32 gigs of ram, ryzen 5 3600x and a rtx 2070 super, and I checked the recommended specs and it seems like it will be working good.... thanks for the amazing review!

[@aaronrodriguez7150]

Great content 👍👏

[@TheOGjarilo]

Nice review bud

[@user-jm8wv6td3s]

I dont know how you are a 4k subs youtuber your video quality and explanations look like a 1 million suscriber youtuber. Congratulation! Keep going on. I hope more people realize the commitment you put to your videos.

[@Framed7]

He just started and has 4k subs, he's gonna blow up soon for sure

[@misterturkturkle]

Slirp

[@BenJi2DxD]

I was a little worried at the end of the video about if my PC can handle it, then you said "if you have 1080 ti you're good" and that was all I needed to hear + "the best". I'm buying it, I want to play Half-Life: Alyx in the best way possible.

[@jeffyjeffy332]

BenJi Whoever you have to check if ur psu is compatible with the 1080ti

[@grqfes]

@@jeffyjeffy332 they already have it working... why check???? this looks like a 2 am half awake post.

[@jeffyjeffy332]

GreenStrqfe ur right my bad

[@matthewohlmann5757]

Is a 2070 super enough to push frames

[@harveybb6118]

The thumsticks not clicking properly on the conrtollers are an "added feature" according to valve, but nobody really likes them and idk whether they're going to fix it. (I do not own index controllers, but i've heard that it's really annoying)

[@Geniuss]

I am new to VR and cant wait to get my Valve Index.

[@gonkersanimemusic9236]

Great video!

[@F1oridaMann]

Best Valve Index review so far. . .

[@carloepure-tofanel1012]

I have a 1060 6gb which i guess is the middle ground for index, and i've heard from some people in the same situation. that it runs well and smooth for non graphic intensive games like beatsaber,gorn,etc, it struggles at like no man's sky, without dropping the quality of course.I'm not planning to upgrade really soon, but i would prefer getting the absolute best vr headset, get it to run decent, rather than getting a cheaper vr,upgrading at a later time, then getting the index,just doesn't seem as efficient.Any other opinions?

[@MrPaulbaitson]

Cheers nice straight forward review, without the BS :)

[@WolfieKr]

Sweet! Good review. I am pretty sure I can't run the index on 120hz with my current pc, so I have to upgrade it afterwards, but I should be fine for 90hz.

[@hmrdev-billnye8166]

I think you can run it at 144

[@alexmecca6003]

Wolfskid what are your specs?

[@nitinanku]

Half-Life-Lore If he cant run it at 120hz he definitely can’t at 144hz

[@dutchdoofus491]

i love the comparison to the rift s on how it feels and the issues cuz index is just a gods product compared to rift s cant wait to recieve mine currently in the waiting list of 2 weeks atleast

[@davidklem6186]

Also tip for you, looking on how you hold the controllers in the video, it seems like you have a similar issue as me with big hands, your thumb sits quite high on the controller. If you have access to a 3D printer try out the boosters provided by valve as it improved comfort of the controllers for me a lot!

[@froggy3875]

I cant wait to get the valve index on my birthday!

[@Jofan614]

sheesh same

[@adventbarret85]

I just want to say. Your video was extremely informative and well put together and after watching it I insta subscribed. Keep up the great vids man.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Thanks boss 😊

[@Bohvey]

I'm sitting here enjoying PSVR and it's been making me want to step up to a nicer unit. PC has a GTX 1070 and i7-4770k. Should I look into going in on this or will my PC still limit me? Steams website states that I meet the recommended requirements but I always wonder... y'know? Thanks for the review.

[@13thdukeofwybourne69]

Has there been a revision (or two) for the controllers since this was reviewed? 'cause the ones I just received from Valve (Oct 21) do not have the issue described at 8:21. The thumbsticks on my knuckles _do_ have a tactile, and audible click when pushed down at any angle.

[@jonny11995]

I can't decide between this or the Vive pro 2 I already have the Knuckles and the Vive base mounts 1.0 so I only really wanna upgrade my base Vive headset. So would you say this or the Vive pro 2 if you have also tested it?

[@merrickslocum9581]

I know this video is 2 years old now and the index has changed but thank you for this video. It allowed me to get an insight on the kit as I've wanted a vr kit of my own for a long time. My PC is also meeting the requirements so I might have a chance.

[@meisdanoob]

Quick question did you end up getting one? If so how is it cos I’m thinking of buying ome

[@merrickslocum9581]

@@meisdanoob I got one for Christmas, still works as if it's brand new

[@clownavenger0]

@@merrickslocum9581 awesome i just returned my HP reverb G2 cause its IPD max is 68 and its unsupported in almost everything. My index should be in the mail now. How does the jump to 140 hz feel compared to the 90 most have?

[@merrickslocum9581]

@@clownavenger0 feels good

[@sharkelite8694]

I have a GTX 980ti and thinking about this headset. I don’t mind running at 80-90 hz for some of the more demanding games. I7 6700k. I think I’ll be okay and if worse case, I’ll upgrade my GPU. Thank you for the review.

[@yukihyo7645]

what about the 2060s, is that card good enough for the index? i'm looking to upgrade my card soon and that seems like the only one that's realistically affordable

[@DedlyAidan]

ThrillSeeker: *Reviews Valve Index* Video: *FILM GRAIN INTENSIFIES*

[@Isaax]

Gently lift your control stick upwards by pinching it and then pulling - gently. Then, depending on whether it's the right or left controller, rotate the stick left on the left controller and right on the right controller until it starts getting hard to rotate, at that point stop rotating. Push the stick back down and try using it. Does it work better now? Great! Now rotate it back by as much as you rotated it the first time around, to bring it back into the original position, this time you don't life the stick upwards.

[@oc_geek337]

ROFL and plase do so with some but not excessive force !

[@grizzle273463]

WOW! Very objective. Thumbs up from me.

[@newdlz7552]

I just built a new PC and I'm thinking about upgrading from my oculus quest to the Valve Index (my pc does meet the recomended specs) is it a good idea to buy an index?

[@kamikaze7415]

Gotta love that one dog hair hanging out the bottom of the headset while hes doing all the cinematic shots of it

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Yeah....

[@kamikaze7415]

Still love your videos man! So keen for the Cosmos can't wait to watch your review :)

[@DennAgain]

Glad I'm not the only who has dog fur on their vr headset 🙃

[@Americanspy-hn2kw]

DennAgain u must be chinese

[@RathalosEmperor]

I have it on my ps5

[@feels5460]

@@Americanspy-hn2kw Or a pet owner? lol

[@Americanspy-hn2kw]

@@feels5460 lol I don't know why I said that

[@deadrat]

@@Americanspy-hn2kw because bad joke not funny

[@looperbbn4007]

how much better is the resolution compared to the first HTC vive? would u say its 2x more clear? 4x?

[@Toxic_FPS]

The short awnser is yes and the longer awnser is hell yeah

[@Dinmamma-yz4mf]

U make great vids

[@Taijifufu]

I found that calibrating the joysticks so Up is angled more properly aligns it with your thumbs (cuz so are they) ended up fixing some problems I had in games.

[@kwlxxi4813]

8:48 Using the xbox controller, I often press the thumbstick accidentally when I'm moving backwards in tense situations, so indeed this sound good to me. But 1000 is too much. So far I have found no reasons in any headset to upgrade my Odyssey, as they improve something, but make others worse, as the black levels, wich are top-nocht in the samgung. Thanks for the video! Very good unbiased review.

[@PlanetXtreme]

I bought a rtx 2080 super for just this thing Totally hyped for when I get it

[@dominicg2456]

Did you get it yet?

[@VoidHxnter]

I got a 2070 super. I love it for playing VR. VERY rarely went under the refresh rate!

[@bayybars]

VoidHxnter this is reassuring, I’m thinking of getting an index and I was concerned about my 2070s

[@majorcrits333]

@@bayybars here i am confident about my super clocked 8gb 1070 😎

[@thefork4416]

You could also use a 1080 and it would be fine

[@douglasmillar7560]

IPD adjustment is a pretty key reason to choose it over the rift s for me. The quest might be an option but from what i hear the link to pc uses a more compressed signal with thus likely lower fidelity and potentially a little lag....

[@corrupted664]

Would a Gtx 1060 (1070 is reccomended) be ok since I'm very close to the reccomended

[@MiyabiJNEP]

Best review

[@carl3710]

Also every button for your thumb has touch sensing, just like the grip and trigger.

[@insaneegg9054]

I'm still getting the valve index no matter what!

[@davidvarga7740]

Okeeey. Soo i was thinking to buy it. But first i want to upgrade pc to i5 9600KF 16gb ram and i have 2060s. I was wondering if it will work well?

[@sketchie_x]

should i get a top tier vr headset?...or...a monitor stand for the same price?

[@serb3392]

You think a normal 1080 graphics card is good cause I did the thing on steam to check if I can run it everything had green checks expect for my 1060 graphics card with 3 gigs

[@completelybraindead]

Thank you for doing this, there was a huge hole in the market for this video.

[@ryanclouse299]

Anyone know a good vr headset to start for someone with an IPD of 59? I was going to get the rift s until I heard that it is recommended with an ipd of 61.5 to 65.5 and has no adjustment.

[@rarememe69420]

Do you have any idea when the next pre-order wave is?

[@ubarwolfie1689]

Finally a very good review. I'd like to know if on visuals (only interested in visuals) you would consider this an upgrade from the 1st Samsung Odyssey - I'm undecided

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

The index is a huge upgrade for sure!

[@utubby3730]

Well if you say only visuals, then its an upgrade, but perhaps not that big. Ive seen users with the Vive Pro not being satisfied with the Index due to the fact that they had done lens mod + were wireless + losing OLED, which of course gives proper blacks, contrast, and colour. But strictly talking about the visuals and it was at least a bit of an upgrade. (I know you didnt ask, but if you take into account the rest of the package - the top notch tracking and great sound, the Index is a great headset)

[@mx2004mx]

how long should the rma take?? i already send them the headset a week ago and still havent heared anything new

[@VeganBytes]

Before I go tearing the plasterboard on my walls, can someone please tell me do I need to connect the base stations to the pc in any way? I know the base stations need power, thats fine, I can do that, but there's a couple of connections on the base station that look as if i need to connect it to a pc. Any help, advice, suggestions etc welcome 👍

[@alanhoy5347]

You compared the lcd to vc1 and original vive panels. Why wont you compare it to the samsung odyssey plus. 1440x1600 amoled displays with anti screen door affect filter. Its easy to compare it to the cv1 and vive oled panels. So i would like to hear your comparison on the odyssey plus and the index