Vancouver Island | Side Bay Motorcycle Travel Satori

Episode 17 - After 40 days of riding and motorcycle camping, I found what I was looking for at Side Bay on British Columbia's wild west coast.
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[@scottslusser]

I, for one, consider your work to be a cinematic masterpiece and the reality of the ride that you present adds to that.

[@alastairtheduke]

I agree. I think the art is twofold, the beautiful scenes of nature that you capture with your drone shots and camera shots but also the story telling of the reality of this kind of travel. I think the latter is what we all tune in for. There is nature porn everywhere on the internet, but an honest story told from your point of view with a backdrop of nature is what i tune in for.

[@BigRigRich]

Totally agree!!!

[@scottslusser]

@@alastairtheduke Well said. Here here.

[@grahamcairn8379]

I don't understand why you keep putting pressure on yourself about your video making. You should be enjoying your adventures and not worrying about how people take your work. If it helps you I think you are doing a excellent job .

[@JCrozier1]

Brilliant content. I hate how hard you are on yourself sometimes, but it happens to me about half the time when im on the road. you truely make some of the best quality videos on KZbin.

[@mell8831]

Magical!

[@zeplin4078]

My viewpoint: I think you put too much pressure on yourself, it seems that you don't book accommodation in advance which is an advantage, if you like a place why don't you stay over, relax a bit enjoy the views, treat yourself to a served dinner you need to slow down and smell the roses. How much weight did you save by chucking your spices, could not have been much so if you take time off do some shopping (no rush) you could have found something to go with your spices. You can always skip something to make up time if you wanted. Stressed out cannot be enjoyable. Thanks for sharing and stay safe.

[@davechavis4275]

Hunger is the best sauce.

[@tonywhetham8165]

Prescription pill bottles seal tight and are water proof.

[@rickpetersonphotography]

Great idea!!

[@alynnhiscox7303]

This might be the best one yet. Your ability to tell the story without any embellishment, without any sugar coating, and with the raw truth of what you're going through is what makes this series so incredible. You're one of us. You're Every Man. You're just a guy who wants to ride, find some beauty, and convey it to those of us out here lucky enough to be on the receiving end. Thanks for this Sterling.

[@letitrest4662]

Well said...

[@steveswartz7040]

I sincerely appreciate this video series realism - of course there will be highs and lows and I love that you share that. Your story and work is very much appreciated!

[@javierurbanovillaescusa8783]

I love this episode. Your sincerity, your mistakes, your skills, and your ability to take us there. I was truly smelling the Ocean. I appreciate very much the music, and even more the absence of music. Perhaps we need this low points to really appreciate this presents that are awaiting ahead.

[@robertohofmann6939]

Excellent vid. The tic tac story made me laugh for sure.

[@Shawn.Noonan]

I love watching all of your episodes, one thing I really love about this episode is your ability to admit your vulnerability, and the challenges of truly living in the moment, but also the desire to capture it on film. You really do such beautiful work. Looking forward to your next episode.

[@jetskiaddict]

Yes! Another video of motorcycle adventure bliss!

[@ginamiller6015]

The very best motorcycle video adventures come from Sterling. So many of us live these adventures vicariously through your amazing videography. Thank you 🫶

[@frfrpr]

Man, you've captured and shared a lot in this video. Challenge, beauty, stress, danger, and even an Anthony Bourdain moment. How one man on a motorcycle can do all that with your consistency is amazing. Thanks for all the effort

[@beachsketch3531]

Inspiring as always Sterling. The reality of the physical and psychological challenges of motorcycle travel is also quite entertaining :) thanks again for doing this and sharing with us!

[@shermanjenne3154]

This episode ranks right up there with one of your BEST. I could almost smell the ocean air. I appreciate all the hard work you put into your stories.

[@timvilleneuve7244]

Sterling, the balance you bring to the video really shows. Your work to bring us along is tremendous. I hope Side Bay balanced out your stressful day the way it LOOKED like it did! A beautiful spot, tranquil, soothing and hopefully restful. Looking forward to your next video for your Side Bay recap. Nicely done.

[@Highlandwolf2sas]

Hi Sterling, so glad you made this one ! Yes we can see a marked difference in your video making in this series with the camping/cooking aspect & way you’re putting the videos together….But it’s refreshing to watch a film maker change there perspective of the effort in such intense work to create content. Am loving this series as it makes you realise the things you face are just like up’s and downs we all face chasing our own “Adventure”…Keep up the good work 🥃🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@brianp7938]

Another amazing video - don’t beat yourself up on the quality and the vision - everything you do is beautiful and meaningful. Thank you for sharing w/us.

[@Big_John_C]

Aeropress has a stainless permanent filter that works well and easy to clean

[@davelarson4697]

I second that motion. Hate to see someone have to resort to instant coffee... 🙂 Use them at home (sometimes in combo with a paper filter), and camping.

[@TexasTacoKiller]

Dang, good episode 👍🏻 Sterling. That landscape around the waterfront and up that steep grade was awesome... being BC, all we need now is a Squach sighting along that coastal campsite 🤣

[@jimlambrick4642]

Now imagine driving a 150 ton off road logging truck down that 18 percent grade. Welcome to Vancouver Island

[@mikepaddison9177]

It takes a while to make the adjustment to island time. I think you made it at Side Bay. As for me, I could smell the cedar forest, and the driftwood burning, best filming in the series yet! Too bad you couldn’t find some fresh salmon and corn to cook over the fire,maybe next time.

[@grandiagod]

Other videos I can put on another screen and do work while i sort of half-watch them. Yours are always so well shot that I have to put them on my main screen and pay all my attention to them because I don't want to miss all the beautiful shots.

[@cjctucson7683]

Re: Your Drone. There is a function on the remote where it says Return to Home. You can hit the icon that represents your location with the controller. Hit that and it will return to where you are. Keep up the great vids.

[@64oilburner]

I live on the island and have worked in port alice. Planning a side bay trip on my klr this summer and it’s nice to see a video of the ride.

[@alanwalls3117]

There is a moment, after your sip of wine, the expression on your face seems to capture contentment or nirvana.

[@norcaldroneworks3299]

OMG. Now that's a good day. what an awesome campsite you found Sterling.

[@franklinnorth7708]

Great Video, Thanks, Grew up in LA, left in 1982 to go to Vancouver BC. Have traveled the Island over the years, lots of familiar places. Now I am retired and cruise the Gulf Islands in my Catalina 30 sailboat.

[@noidreculse8906]

As a photographer, I would think that dealing with the dust and camera equipment would add another layer to the challenge. Your photos are great, your efforts show that you have a creative eye. 😎🇺🇸🤘🏻

[@vernsampson3584]

Hi again from the North Island area, Noren. Just really enjoying tagging along on your journey - beautiful imagery and honest dialogue. Yes, that was some hill you had to navigate. Can you imagine hauling logs down off that side hill with 80 to 100 ton payloads? Always had my toes curled up in my boots back in those days - steam coming off the water cooled brakes and hoping the huge water tank behind the cab didn't run dry before you got down to the valley floor. Thank to you we've got to make the trek out to Side Bay "real soon now." Good traveling to ye and thanks again for your awesome content. Cheers from Sointula, BC.

[@BernardRenault-r6f]

enjoyed this video so much. You really are enjoying the solitude of your ride. Very well planned. The filming of your trip is amazing, using the drone and Go-Pros. Beautiful scenery all along the trip

[@robpinter5431]

We love what you do Stirling, as we are living our dream through you and your adventures.....Inspiring...The face after the sip of red wine says it all.....

[@chriswild2458]

I watch from the UK your films are excellent, honest ,inspiring and motivational You have no need to beat yourself up you should be proud of your achievements, thank you

[@ant-1382]

That steep hill, is the reason why you should alway tell someone where you are going in these remote areas. Had a similar experience in the same area, following a logging road didn't realize how much elevation I was gaining. Until I came out of the thick forest on to an open logged area, with Alice Lake a 1000 ft down a steep slope, on a narrow rd. how to turn around?? Had visions of plunging into the lake and nobody finding me!! Where did he go??

[@stewtube1240]

Great Tune " Mountain Air " always makes me reflect and sometimes with a tear in my eye . The setting was perfect for that little interlude . Thank you ! Great job on the steep hill climb ...when you drive down such a steep grade in those marbley conditions it makes you realize how much easier it may have been going up . Love your unique videos ...the quality shows .

[@rustyhunt8896]

I had the same inclination on my six-week trip. I really wanted to enjoy cooking on the road, but I was never near grocery stores where I could pick up fresh food before I settled into a campsite. Loved the reality of life on the road in this video. Beautiful campsite too!

[@lauriebriding7829]

Another amazing video. I truly appreciate what you do and what you bring to us.

[@stardust4987]

Vancouver Islander here,remote is just the way we like it. Lived here all my life and the beauty of my Island never gets old.

[@glenntoulouse5710]

Great vid, no way I could film going up and down that hill ,would have been cursing from start to finish. The bay looked awesome.

[@Crittermoto]

This was great Stirling! Really appreciate your efforts and your honesty about filming. It’s not easy! And my little videos are nowhere near as polished or epic as yours!!! Side Bay is such a great place to spend some time 👍🏻 Cheers! 🇨🇦

[@pacopetepnw3434]

When we come to see you, Scarlet Ibis Pub and Side Bay destinations!

[@1944chevytruck]

Good job! and i live in Errington Vancouver Island

[@rockinrodlittle]

My mother and Father in law live in Port Alice. I’ve been to where you shot the opening sequence. You have done a wonderful job capturing the beauty

[@murraehaynes3182]

Masterpieces are in the eyes of the beholders…I always enjoy and appreciate your work 👍

[@brother_azzedine]

Could please tell me the name of the soundtrack at the end of the episode Thank you

[@ezbeemer]

Sometimes you just have to put in the miles to reach that sometimes elusive nirvana . Was worth the wait!

[@deblewis12]

I appreciate you Sterling. I'm headed to Alaska next month and your information and experience is really helpful. Thank you so much.

[@Wingnut_Stickman]

Excellent video, thanks for sharing!

[@thors-hammer1]

Great episode in every way and you've definitely mastered the art of capturing and enjoying the beauty of the simple things that most people take for granted and or hardly even notice. Keep up the good spirit and best of luck!

[@Avensur]

That was the best camping spot you have been, so quiet, by the ocean with a cozy evening fog. Excellent 👍

[@richardsalmon6040]

Your adventures remind me of the seven and a half weeks brother and I spent riding from Mesa, AZ to Alaska and back. How many gray roads, gorgeous mountains, wildlife, and adventures can a person take in in one outing... Cinematic pics are great, content is getting stale. Where is Eva, you need to share, laugh, be excited about the new day.

[@lessmore444]

Idk man, the non glossed over reality vs fantasy presentation is actually really appreciated & makes for it’s own brand of cinematic & truthful storytelling. Idealistic fanciful portrayals are a dime a dozen these days. Whereas, you’re honest telling it like it is & that makes for something a bit more original & refreshing. Keep up the good work.

[@eprohoda]

unreal !buddy!

[@dianedrake4476]

You are a superior film maker. I love all of your travels!

[@michaelmarkin1532]

I camped near there at Grant Bay. I’m looking forward to camping at Side Bay. The campfire and sound of the surf is enchanting. I’m really enjoying this series of videos. Thank you.

[@als1023]

Thanks for posting, I camped at San Josef bay in '75, incredible beautiful place, pitched a tent on the sand. Had to look up Grant bay, looks like another amazing place, !

[@johnsutherland7922]

I had fun watching this episode. I rode to Side Bay last summer with friends and we had a similar experience you had. I got stuck in the sand too. This is as remote as Vancouver Island gets. Consider going to Coal Harbour. They have an amazing museum there in the plane hanger.

[@als1023]

Thanks for posting !

[@surferbummg]

Looks like no mosquitoes at Side Bay. 🦟

[@bhenry5091]

Sterling, so glad you got to experience my riding backyard. Straight south , looking across from Side Bay, is the Brooks Peninsula, a protected area which was the only place on Vancouver Island to escape the last ice age. This resulted in its having many endemic species that do not exist in other parts of the big island. Side bay is an exquisite place. You were very fortunate also, to have the weather you did, as you can tell from the size of some of the older treses here, they this is nto a desert climate, but temperate rain forest. Last summer was a rare, but lately more frequent, very hot dry summer for us. We lucked out though in being spared from a lot of the forest fire damage that raged in the interior of the province! Happy riding. Brent

[@als1023]

Thanks for posting !!

[@tyee4u]

Two pro tips from a Vancouver Islander. #1. Any roads that are water barred (cross ditched) are deactivated and go literally nowhere. #2. Side Bay is top secret ! Delete this video immediately ! 😂 Another great job. You found my wife and my absolute favourite camping spot in the planet 👍

[@als1023]

Thank you for posting ! Lived in Hardy 72-77

[@JohnDoe-xm9ql]

Thanks Sterling.. .

[@gsfinatic]

IMO the best campsite yet.

[@enduromotorradtouren]

Patience, Stirling, patience. After 40 days of solo riding you're sore. But that's part of the trip, you know that. And you convey that experience really well. Great filmmaking. Günter/Nürnberg, Germany

[@PSBEadventures]

Now this is what I'm talking about!!!! Reminds me of some of those fantastic Japanese motocamping channels! A plus buddy!!

[@subthousandoaks]

Thank you!!

[@adv4me]

Thanks for the daily dose!😊

[@JohnDoe-xm9ql]

Agreed

[@Liberty4Ever]

Port Alice is picture postcard gorgeous! It was very interesting to see your moto cooking reality as opposed to your fantasy version. I can definitely relate to that. I'm working up to extended motorcycle travel so I'm benefiting from your road based reality. I have powdered soy sauce, powdered peanut butter, powdered coconut milk and freeze dried lime juice in single serving packets. The goal is to make Thai dishes using quick cooking rice noodles along with a few fresh ingredients procured along the way. If I'm traveling, I'll get a burrito or pizza for lunch and I may just have a piece of fruit as a snack at night, but if it's not a travel day I'd like a good cooked meal in camp. Rather than carry loose ingredients as a smaller version of my kitchen to afford me maximum cooking creativity in camp, I think I may package the dried ingredients for specific meals - just add an onion and red pepper. For my more typical overnight trips, I'll probably bring the produce from home. Based on your fine example, I bought a 32 ounce HydroFlask and it's great. I can fill it at lunch on the road and have a refreshing ice cold beverage in camp that night. That's one of many great tips I picked up from you and I'm very grateful. Your perspectives on the differences between your Fuji and GoPro cameras was also very interesting. I have no pretensions of documenting my travels to anything approaching your level of artistry. I simply don't have it in me to do that, but you have definitely inspired me to improve my photography and videography. My goal is to suck less. I have a similar multi-camera strategy, although much more modest. I use a small Casio camera with a 25mm lens and 18X optical zoom to supplement the GoPro and my Pixel 6 cell phone camera. You have almost convinced me to buy a drone. 🙂 13:00 - When the road looks that steep on a GoPro, it must be STEEP. 😲 I'm leaving on a three day motorcycle camping trip tomorrow and I should be doing the annual maintenance on the motorcycle and packing, but I had to watch this video. Thanks for making these wonderful inspirational and educational videos.

[@bhager1945]

I’m digging the show.. your quiet endings to episodes is perfect.. Thanks for all your excellent writing and production..

[@peterhewitson71]

I do not watch your videos for a cinematic full length movie I just enjoy coming along for the ride and seeing what you see , I use 3 x Hero3 silver Go Pros , not fantastic but captures the trip and no one has ever complained about footage quality on my channel , I go for content first every time . Chill out and enjoy the ride , I love every video you do .Pete Western Australia

[@tomshunpiker4554]

RE: your “big camera” comments. I think your movies are going to be viewed by folks who dont know the difference between the Fuji and GoPro. Some may know but dont care. Im an amateur photographer and Id consider myself capable with a my Nikon D500. Im thinking of selling all of that gear because it doesn’t make sense on a regular trip on a cycle or in my 4x4. My 14Pro takes a damn good shot and good enough to show family and friends and put on a website. Just MO. Enjoying this series very much. You did a good job no matter what cameras you used.

[@alanbermensolo4728]

Whining at 0800 minutes. Come on sterling😂😂😂. Love your adventures.

[@BriKinsella]

Trade off. You're a very talented film maker but like you say it takes time and the camp set up at Side Bay shows how much effort you put into making a great job of it! 🤗

[@MrFishenough]

Like your videos but just caught this one. Great that you rode up the beach, my friends on GSs and Vstroms wouldn't. And you followed shortly behind us, we found the landscape fabric in a pile by the creek side camp and hung it, I early March visit. Been visiting there since the 70s. Know if less and less beaches that have found their way onto social media (which we don't mind) cheers

[@ORflycaster]

Sterling, I really appreciate your honesty and candor during this trip. Everyone has good and bad days, so when content creators edit out (or fake) the down days, it never rings true. Throwing away your unused cooking supplies not only lightened your load, but mine too. I'm slowly building my gear list and trying to keep things as light as possible because I'm on a KLR650 with soft luggage. I'm naturally an over-packer, so this has become a challenge, and an opportunity for introspection. Comfortable, simple, and lightweight are my three priorities. My gear is shockingly similar to yours (tent, hammock, Firebox, Aeropress, toaks, MSR rocket, Opinels, etc), but I'm limiting myself to instant coffee and tea bags, home-dehydrated food, as my daily dependables. If I can add meat, eggs, veggies and fruit along the way a day at a time then those will be luxury items with a short-term weight penalty. Anyway, thank you. I'm not only enjoying the scenery, but taking careful notes. Keep up the superb channel.

[@massdrivemoto]

Perhaps it's time to take a trip with no camera equipment, only your cellphone. Uncomplicate yourself. Leave your ambition and guilt behind. Enjoy the ride. Reset.

[@andreboulay1615]

Stirling, you can reuse Aeropress filters many many times over. You just need to rinse them and let them dry.

[@3smoke]

I had to do that too. It's not as good but held me over until I got to Overland Expo West and talked a vender out of a couple new ones. Saw Sterling's girlfriend there too! Nice lady.

[@davelarson4697]

I've done this at home, and gotten a dozen or more uses from a single filter. Not so easy to do when traveling by bike.

[@Supermankev2001]

You never seem to disappoint always top shelf Videos great job. I can't tell you how many times I choose not to film so I can enjoy the ride.

[@tcat0211]

If you can get them, try the French military ration kits. Much better quality than the US MRE counterparts. Highly recommend. As usual, thanks for the great footage!

[@kq9l115]

Wow, your videos keep getting better! Keep up the good work, I’m living vicariously through your travels!

[@edking755]

Your latest episode 17 is amazing, especially since I just now watched the Oregon BDR film debut that you were heavily involved in in the middle of doing the Riding Solo series. That's a serious bunch of strenuous riding and film work. Take some time out to recuperate. Stay safe.

[@mr.g.916]

Love the series. Glad you started enjoying yourself again. Too bad you don't fish- you camp next to awesome places to catch dinner.

[@Alpha-bb1wl]

What an episode. Wow. This series confuses me to where I’m unsure if I’m watching youtube vlogs or a Netflix film haha.

[@gregskannal7235]

Sterling I must say I absolutely love you movies. They are majestically beautiful and ultra inspiring. BUT... I would think it very cool for you if you did a week long trip unplugged from the recording equipment and in it's place plugged in a Dometic Fridge to carry your foods of choice in case you run into those food deserts. You could uae a air bag to keep the food from bouncing around and put the fridge where your camera gear normally is. A one time experimental event 😊 Just saying... 💖

[@woundedtiger7547]

Watching you ride so many miles. The seat on the bike must be perfect pillow top. For 70miles on mine. I'm warren out. So I have alot of admiration for your efforts. Thanks for sharing your hard work.

[@intersections420]

Not the whole video needs to be cinematic. A few short cinematic segments and revealing moments are enough. I think your videos became way more interesting since your realization and the short cinematic moments gained so much more weight. I think you're on the right path to find the balance. btw. Challenge accepted. Starting my trip hopefully before Christmas and will start posting my videos possibly from January 2024 on.

[@clarson2916]

Moments of shear terror, and incredible beauty, bracketed by hours and days of being, cold, wet, hungry, dirty, thirsty, bitten by insects, sweaty, and extremely fatigued. Yeah! That’s it… It’s for the adventure! The sooner we admit that adventure is what we are after, the less time and money we will spend trying to figure out what we are looking for. And, the happier we will be when we find it. :)

[@fabiopunk1661]

gourmet meals while motorcycle camping?!?! I thought it was a joke, but actually it wasn't. Well, reality set the rules, which sometimes are hard to swallow. In this case the rule is: meals cooked on the road must be super simple. My wife and I have travelled extensively, we have one warm meal in the evening. This is either a good juicy steak, or fish, with steamed vegetables. Filling, healthy and tasty. We managed that even when bicycle touring around Nordkapp, Norway, carrying the food on a trailer - which was hard - as we could buy food only every 2 or 3 days in those remote areas. On a motorcycle trip, one does not have to carry the weight of the food .... luxury!

[@letitrest4662]

Nice comeback Sterling. After the mosquito attack you were sounding like you were at a moral low. Like a good man, though you weren't kept down. I'll bet the water's cold there, but I'd have been tempted to indulge myself into the water, followed by an adult beverage afterward just to toast it. I must say that I share the obvious(by the look on your face) enjoyment of that first swallow of a great adult beverage at the end of a day well spent. For me it was, an ice Cold Coors Banquet, that I'd picked up and iced down in my six pack cooler after breezing into our campsite on the Olympic Peninsula, or the ice cold Sangria I made after setting up camp in Kallispel, Montana. It's like the whip cream on top of the pumpkin pie except better. A little buzz to open the eyes and the mind in a different way to the beauty and grandeur surrounding you . I know the feeling of a great motorcycle journey to somewhere remote and unseen by your eyes before. This I've enjoyed and see that with you also, my friend. That's what I enjoy about your videos. Thanks again, Noren.

[@skipperdabio]

I know it wasn’t the meal you would have preferred but (given the circumstances) I thought it looked really good!

[@als1023]

This man has made a trip to one of the world's most beautiful places. This bay is south of his visit to Holberg, on the outside west coast of Vancouver Island. Not many people make the trip out. He has captured the essence. If you have the chance,,, go. Use the Backroads of BC maps if you wish, there are various volumes. If you come to a fork in the road, ' the road less travelled ' is not a good option, generally, in the backroads of Canada. The ' mainline ' rarely goes up steep pitches, it follows the valleys and easier terrain. Thanks for posting !

[@kevinh8338]

Brilliant. “Letting go” of the tic-tac boxes . . . Allowed for a reset. Can’t force our dreams to be true, can’t let them cloud enjoyment of the actual situation . . . So redeeming to end up in Side Bay - thanks for bringing us along.

[@butcherknife59knife46]

Sterling I believe you found your grove. Great place to camp I must say. It all came together on a beach... Around Bend Oregon out on 2 wheels

[@TomSkulander]

Stirling I guess your cooking expectations maybe subtly put a small bit of pressure on you that added to your lack of enjoyment a few episodes back. Tonight my campsite neighbours asked me where I was going tomorrow. I said I’ve paid for two nights and tomorrow I’m going to a world class landscape photographers gallery here in Dunsborough, Western Australia. His name is Christian Fletcher. I think it makes a big difference seeing someone elses work rather than in a book or on video. My point is we all need perspective and occasionally grounding. Christian largely works solo and camps a lot in the centre of our big brown land, I’m sure he’ll say there’s days when he struggles as well, something to know it’s part of the creative adventure. Take care.

[@aprilkeyes2420]

Excellent video. Thank you. This is one of my favorite places to paddle. There's a new rule these days. If you find a place and you love it, don't kill it by posting it to social media. Places that were once amazing to visit are now gone forever. Cape Scott, among has been over posted. You won't see wildlife anymore sadly. Just lots of people.

[@davidplantz4066]

Hey, Sterling. You are crushing it. I think you are too hard on yourself. I tend to think your videos are a reflection of yourself. Honest, fun, and down to earth real. Keep it up.

[@MrRickrm]

I really enjoy your video stories of your travels. I have always wanted to use a good drone. Always wanted the gopro cameras. But finances have prevented obtaining them. I consider the food part intimidating too. Made my morning seeing you toss them, going minimal. Thanks for explaining it.

[@detch5307]

I think you're being too hard on yourself. This was a great episode. Your filming is incredible. I'm loving the ride!

[@trekkingtheoutdoors]

fantastic video Sterling..! the footage is awesome, the straight up “this is what it is” is exactly what I enjoy, well done sir ! Cheers

[@ridewitholdgrizz582]

You sure do a lot of whining in this video....yes it is a lot of work, peoplevlike Itchy Boots have traveled the world making a video 3 times a week for several years. The nicest thing about the northern part of Vancouver Island is how remote it I's.

[@vcheng552000]

I thought that the shot at 1:18 was the best one so far, but then I came to the portion on Side Bay and the camp site. I reckon that site was worth about 113,865.47 dollars per second in therapeutic value that made everything else that you mentioned simply irrelevant. :)