HOW BLACK ADAM KILLED THE DCEU

[@joseacevedo1018]

when dr fate was about to sacrifice himself and says that he sees nothing in the future for him i was literally in the theater like "this has no right to be in this movie. its too good."

[@ubermaster134]

Pierce Brosnan was easily my favorite part of this movie

[@xancypillosi9497]

@@ubermaster134let me take my helmet off a ton so u can c my face in the middle Of battle

[@Kronosfobi]

I was really annoyed they sacrificed him for Hawkman of all people. Hawkman, the man who ressurects anyways.

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

Dude was awesome

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

​@@xancypillosi9497 please and thank you...especially if notable star or hot chick.. 😂

[@cinemaarts8795]

You can tell the "failure" of Black Adam has had an effect on Dwayne Johnson, with him wanting to remake Moana and even returning to Fast & Furious.

[@colechung7806]

His already been exposed tho, sadly

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

I think it made the rock realize he's not as big as he thinks he is, so it might've humbled him a lot.

[@willdiesel8431]

​@@thewolfofwallstreet627it has zero to do with his notoriety.

[@cementmixxTV]

You clowns come on here and just lie to yourselfs ....that shit didn't have any effect him that shit you mentioned was already in the works....

[@cementmixxTV]

​@@thewolfofwallstreet627WTF are you talking he still one the biggest names in Hollywood and was the highest paid actor for the last few years probably still is....his only mistake was trying to make Black Adam main guy in DC wen she never was

[@dynaguy3]

He wanted this to be his Terminator role. But Black Adam wasn’t nearly hard core enough. Rock tried turning the character into a sympathetic anti hero. Can’t have both. Black Adam being someone who kills his enemies does not have the impact Rock wants it to have since 95% of Marvel’s and 90% of the DCEU heroes all kill

[@aaronmiles2802]

He should’ve gone all the way with who Black Adam actually is as a character:an Anti-Villain. Gone with the comics and have him take the life of his nephew or better yet allow his nephew to die and take his power, reasoning that his nephew wasn’t willing to go far enough to do what’s necessary to stop the king and free their people. Wayyy more compelling and a fresh take to the superhero movie world. Of course the Rock couldn’t resist his need to be seen as nothing more than a darker Superman.

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Even Superman broke Zod's neck.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

@@A_KZbin_Commenter The phrasing of this comment just reminded me of the Powerman 5000 song "Even Superman Shot Himself"

[@Chuck_EL]

​​@@aaronmiles2802 I was pondering on this today and this is what i came up with Based on the stories i heard that Dewayne's "Cant lose a fight" clause and his fixation of fighting Superman There's a character who he could of played, that would fit his clause and he'd be able to fight Superman Darkseid, he already is an imposing man he has a deep commanding voice and Darkseid barely loses a fight, but the issue might be his "antihero" mindset If they had his whole arc on Apokolyps throughout the movie and he played him as a dictator no antihero nonsense it could of worked

[@Jay-gq1mo]

It also doesn't help that the Rock is contractually obligated to win all his on screen fights which makes things less interesting for me

[@Myles-YT]

If your entire franchise lives and dies on the shoulders of one character or movie, you did not build your foundations correctly.

[@IncognitoSprax]

Warner Brothers in a nutshell

[@bloodnivel70]

Snyder zealots in a nutshell

[@LaloSalamancaGaming69]

Im talking to you snyder! The guy that killed the dceu with bvs and man of steel

[@Charsi_Escobar]

@@LaloSalamancaGaming69folks did prefer the Snyder Cut 😅makes you wonder how much Joss Whedon fucked with the project when he took over

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@LaloSalamancaGaming69the DCEU was started by Man of Steel.

[@AshXXMayftw]

Dr. Fate and Hawkman were probably the highlights in terms of the characters. In fact, this movie should have been a Dr. Fate and Hawkman movie where they face off against Black Adam. Then maybe after that they could have their standalone Black Adam movie.

[@mew10521]

I agree

[@d3rrick10493]

This is spot on, the whole anti hero thing is boring anyways. I would have been MUCH more interested in seeing the Rock play a true villain fighting Shazam. Everytime the Rock acts, he HAS to be at least a bit of a good guy. I would love to see him play an actual bad guy just to see how he does it.

[@Actionfan19]

And in that solo movie the entire population of Kahndoq slowly teach Adam not to be killing people willy nilly. Seriously that was among MY issues in this movie, the whole damn country was to comfortable with Adam going on a killing spree.

[@michaelmcdonnell3905]

@@d3rrick10493 I think it would've played with audiences better if Black Adam was a villain.

[@tylerbertram7065]

It makes wonder if this movie was supposed to be a Justice Society movie but they made it a Black Adam movie at the last minute because of the beef between Dwayne Johnson and Zackary Levi.

[@jsc315]

What I hate most about this movie was the rated potential of Peirce Brosden as Dr. Fate. He looks the part so damn well and nailed the character, and they did nothing with it and we likely never will again. Fate is such a dark tragic character and to be remembered in this film is such a major disservice to his character.

[@JesseTampa]

Dr. Fate was portrayed by Pierce Brosnan in Black Adam.

[@Sorrelhas]

I want Pierce Brosnan as Kent Nelson again, in a very art-y fart-y movie, like some David Lynch sh*t My favorite appearences of Dr Fate are in stories that are more mystic and philosophical in nature, like the Sandman stuff and the the 1987 comic

[@chrisfitforever]

@@SorrelhasI always thought that would be so dope or a horror type something like the opening scene of the empty man would be incredible

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

Multiverse, baby!!!

[@Godzilla-tu2cd]

This movie killed the DCEU? I thought it was practically already dead. Especially when WB was already planning on rebooting DC anyway

[@nemesisprime4501]

Well. Dwayne tried to revive it starting with black adam even though he said it was supposed to serve like a phase 1 type. He expected the dceu to be centered around him and superman and wanted all the actors to come back for the role but unfortunately warner bros discovery had other ideas. This came fourth james gunn and peter Safran

[@bigbearkat2010]

I'd say it was on life support and Black Adam was like the hail mary experimental procedure you cross your fingers can save the patient. It's just kind of easy and fun to say Black Adam killed it, because of all the behind scenes stuff, particularly the Rock's hubris.

[@michaelmcdonnell3905]

@@nemesisprime4501 They're rebooting DC since Black Adam was such a disaster success wise.

[@nemesisprime4501]

@@michaelmcdonnell3905 guess that confirms dwayne blew it with his ego

[@77SilentAssassin77]

@C4rtrSlad3 A "chomo"? You've got evidence to support this, I assume?

[@StarLord-fy6yi]

You have to admit. It is truly amazing how they got Black Adam to play Dwayne Johnson too a tee. Bravo Black Adam!!!

[@JungSooLeee]

That's Dwayne Johnson playing Black Adam. Black Adam is not real at all. All of the magic is all cgi.

[@enumaelish9193]

​@@JungSooLeeeThat's the joke chief.

[@JungSooLeee]

@@enumaelish9193 Oh, he has jokes... Well the hierarchy of jokes is about to change.

[@revolution2762]

@@enumaelish9193it’s sad that you took what mobius said seriously.

[@rikybj0276]

​@@JungSooLeeewtf bro

[@cinemaarts8795]

You might as well finish this quasi Shazam trilogy by talking about Fury of the Gods. That movie was certinally affected by the Rock's control over the BA character and then there's Zachary Levi's rivalry with Johnson.

[@DanielPlainsight]

Dwayne Johnson is so much of a narcissist that i guarantee you that leading up to the release of this movie, he thought to himself, "Yeah, this gonna make at least a billion."

[@wt1664]

Lol what

[@rajanlad]

I don't think it's book case narcissism. But it more likey surrounded by Yes men Someone said he is this generation Will Smith : used in everything

[@yakuza01]

The Rock truly illustrates how fortunate Arnold was to work with directors that were not only visionaries but also did not take any bullshit from prima donnas. Just look at how the iconic 'I'll be back' from Terminator would have never come up if it was up to Arnold but Cameron told him to stick to his lane.

[@davidguy209]

Let's not forget that Doctor Fate isn't the man - he's the living helmet!

[@JacksonLane02]

Well by Black Adam the DCEU was basically a burning casket while it truely died but the Whedon version of Justice League

[@lewisaino]

Black Adam at least helped show that the Execs didn't know what they were doing. Even Dwayne put his heart

[@KadeemG61]

You misspell Whedon

[@HejaWolf]

I agree. The theatrical cut of Justice League destroyed any hope for the DCEU thriving, though I argue the theatrical cut of BVS destroyed it back in 2016.

[@troytaylor5746]

@@HejaWolf agreed, thats where the downhill started

[@thefilmrookie3099]

@@troytaylor5746it started with man of steel. It was controversial and didn’t handle the character properly. But I guess you can argue that man of steel is still better than those movies.

[@hothotheat3000]

The Rock’s biggest problem is himself. He’s a huge star, but he surrounds himself with no-name talent. He doesn’t work with huge directors, and his costars are either past their prime or unknowns, for the most part. He doesn’t want anyone around who can challenge him, push him, demand more from him. To quote Bane, victory has defeated him. For a guy who is so busy, he’s incredibly lazy from a creative standpoint. He was counting on this to be his retirement plan. He’s in his 50s now, and with all the sequels and shit this was supposed to generate, it would’ve kept him busy into his 60s. His time as an action star is fading. He’s closer to the end of his career than the beginning, and now that this plan to take over DC has failed, he’s running back to Moana, donating money to the actor strike to rehab his image and look good again, and pretending everything is fine. People aren’t paying for mediocrity anymore. That Red Notice movie was supposed to be a theatrical release with Universal, but they read the script, realized it was shit, and dumped the movie. He had to scamper off to Netflix to get it made, where we don’t have real numbers about how it did. If that was released in theaters, with that budget, it would’ve tanked. He’s bland, basic, and overrated. In 20 years, no one will be watching his shitty movies. They’ll be watching Terminator, Rambo, and Die Hard.

[@Syfcobra8549]

Facts!

[@felathar1985]

The fact he has a clause that it says he cannot lose fights in the movies he's in confirms what you just said.

[@BM-wh5qk]

The worst that will happen is he maybe goes the Bruce Willis route and makes four geezer action movies a year. His name will always guarantee some work.

[@rubixcube9117]

I kind of enjoyed red notice though. Call me uncultured but I feel like Ryan Reynolds carried that movie HEAVILY

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

And Suicide Squad 2, as John Cenas Peacemaker was actually well received and he loved playing him and he didn’t hog the spot.

[@samirgomeznovelo746]

I don't care about Black Adam but, the world needs a Dr. Fate Movie with Pierce Brosnan

[@nosfonader8792]

The fact we aren't getting that animated Shazam movie as a WrestleMania style event film is sad. Zachary Levi + Henry Cavill vs Dwayne Johnson should have been a no brainer to make. I blame Johnson's ego on this. He makes it in his contracts to never lose fights. So he would not allow people to make him the punching bag of two heroes. Black Adam is Shazam's arch enemy not Superman. People only put these two together because Adam can take Supes in a fight. I actually did like Black Adam for what it tried to do. Seeing the Justice Society was great but I wish the evil government ruling over Khandaq was the villains. Maybe give the leader a suit made of Eternium since it hurt Adam at the beginning. I was expecting that to be used against him, not a demon lord. The Shazam franchise was a huge waste of potential.

[@jasoningramx3731]

I agree the funny part is I've always thought that the fact that black Adam could take on both superman and captain marvel/Shazam at the same time and dominate most of the fight made him way more bad @$$ even if he loses in the end . Like it took both of them to actually beat him that's awesome

[@Yetanother253]

Unlikely, but I think they be could make that movie as an event which happened before Flash.

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

Wasting potential is the only thing DC seems to be able to do anymore, with live action movies at least.

[@LaidBack--]

Lmfao, he can't take Superman in a fight. He can give him trouble though.

[@mfninja5190]

Na Vee. The Rock was essentially playing the same role he always does. He did the least he could possibly do and we shouldn’t congratulate him for it.

[@burningkenshin]

Agreed. DC should have just stuck to Black Adam's comic origin, had him fight Shazam as his initial villian, then move on from there. Then later on in the DCU they could have a Black Adam redemption arc within his own movie. The way they went about it here was horrendous imo. I don't blame Dwayne Johnson for that, but DC for allowing it to happen.

[@slurp3194]

Nope this is one of Rocks best performances. He really pushed himself in his acting range. Considering he just plays the same character. This stoic character was very good. For such a super star alot of respect

[@kayveethegoat1573]

@@slurp3194 not really lol.

[@sloppnbiscuiitz]

@@slurp3194*Tells you about his “acting” when this is 1 of his best in your opinion.. imo his better performances were in gridiron gang, walking tall n snitch. Anyway I feel like there was definitely potential with the black adam role but he couldn’t fully lean into it n that’s not juss on him*

[@slurp3194]

@@sloppnbiscuiitz cause it is u can count on one hand the amount of acceptable to good performances rock has had purley as an actor

[@alsims2007]

wouldn't affect the overall movie but I think it would've been cool if both Superman and Shazam were in the end credit scene. Shazam often needs help fighting Black Adam so it's true to the character. I'm sure a live action fight between the 3 would be messy to choreograph but it would've been worth it... or a cgi mess

[@stillrealtome1772]

The DCEU died the minute Batman V Superman released and split audiences. From that point WB always second guessed everything going forward thereby killing the universe before it even truly began

[@bigbearkat2010]

I think it also doesn't help they were going for an Avengers payout by developing BvS so soon in the first place.

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@bigbearkat2010 And it's like people forgot what Donner, Singer and Burton openly said about the Wb executives This has been a near 50 year issue with the Wb it's not a new thing

[@nestormelendez9005]

Nah mate it was suicide squad that killed the dceu

[@indatube]

It’s bad because the rock and his ego and needing to pull punches and change the character to suit him, including him not really killing anyone other than obviously bad guys. Had he eliminated cyclone and atom smasher immediately upon arrival of JSA invaders and he is interrupted from getting Hawkman and Dr. fate it would’ve been that much better. After getting to know the two and looking forward to their promising career their roles are cut short and giving the audience stakes and engagement. Rock is the reason it has no mention of Shazam. This movie was a JSA movie calling itself a Black Adam movie.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

It's not the worst dc movie but a anti-hero black Adam was never going to work he's Captain Marvel's main enemy and then the rock refuse to let Shazam be involved in any way which hurt the movie because of Dwyane's ego

[@NubSaiboty]

I don’t get it. He didn’t want to be a Villain just to lose to Shazam? Or he didn’t want to be a Villain because it is not marketable?

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@NubSaiboty no he wanted to be a hero who happeneds to kill, and he wanted to be him vs Superman not Shazam

[@bigbearkat2010]

Technically it worked before with Venom. Maybe it could've succeeded financially if it came out in say 2019.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@bigbearkat2010 note really because the first venom movie is a 5 or 6, but then let there be carnage is a 4 out of 10, also Venom is anti-hero now a days but not as Eddie Brock, also the venom movies would have been better for being rated r

[@bigbearkat2010]

@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD that's why I'm mostly talking about the financial aspect because I personally found Venom to be meh. If Black Adam had made Venom money though, this would've been a whole different video. They completely rewrote the origin for Venom (and people almost certainly knew that going in) and no one seemed to care.

[@remixsolo]

His antihero status has been around since like 2006 ish, or at least I believe so, since I think that they are trying to use the 52 version. I wonder if they were going to show a budding romance between the archeologist and Adam, resulting in her eventually becoming Isis and her son Osiris.

[@remixsolo]

I also really liked Hawkman's technology. It felt somewhat unique.

[@thisisnotachannel]

That's probably where they were gonna go with that. I'm curious if they were ever going to introduce Jay Garrick, and address their "friendship" from the comics.

[@Shadowlurkering]

Justice Society of America #21 (2002) would begin his first stint as a hero.

[@mrmusickhimself]

I feel bad for Henry Cavill over all. It's clear the only reason to make a Black Adam solo movie was to give The Rock his own comic book movie, because no one was clamoring for a Black Adam solo movie. Personally, I've never gotten into any of The Rock's solo film vehicles, even the best ones are mid. He's never gotten a role that has matched the charisma of his Attitude Era WWF persona, and that sucks.

[@bigbearkat2010]

It's like WB has gone out of their way yo waste him over the years. They announce development phases for seemingly every hero under their umbrella yet spend the better part of a decade dragging their feet on a Superman sequel or even a Superman cameo and make so little use of him, Cavill has to make social media posts assuring people he hasn't left the universe despite absolutely no signs that WB had any plans for him at all.

[@Ocelotonatiuh]

Isn't that The Rock's m.o.? He's tried to hijack many franchises (The Mummy, GI Joe, The Fast & The Furious, and now The DCEU.)

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Black Adam didn't kill the DCEU it just failed to save it.

[@rikybj0276]

agreed

[@MatthewGabriel-bc1is]

This issue with that is thinking that one movie alone can save the dceu as it would have taken multiple.Which is why the MCU was soo successful

[@MatthewGabriel-bc1is]

If they had a plan and stick to it probably wouldn't have failed

[@thatguy5404]

Damn Im really surprised you found the Rock's acting a highlight of the movie, I thought he was terrible.

[@alexmartin3143]

He was, don’t worry… lol…

[@popculturenerd9274]

Yes pls do an all encompassing retrospective of this series of films, the more in depth and thorough the better

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

This movie could've still existed as a Justice Society film and completely cut everything with Black Adam out and keep him as a Shazam character. You could have it be Atom Smasher and Cyclone being inspired by the justice league to become heroes and eventually lead to Hawkman & Doctor Fate finding them and offering guidance. Then have it be explained the Justice Society did exist before the Justice League but establish that because of some tragedy they disbanded and the memories of them were erased or something. And after that point superheroes started popping up more with Superman, Flash, Etc, Batman eventually forming the new Justice League and more young heroes appearing finally inspiring the pair to come out of hiding/retirement. Idk I think with how unfocused this movie was trying to fit all these characters into Black Adam's supporting cast it really would've been better if they just made their own Justice Society movie personally.

[@blackphillip8486]

Vee not giving us that hour long The Flash video and the aforementioned complete DCEU Snyderverse video would be the greatest injustice he could inflict on all of us Veetards. Vegenerates? Idk, I'm still mourning the loss of Keaton and the best live action Supergirl we ever had and barely got to see. 😢

[@JeremyMarshall-zh6zn]

If dwayne wasn't cast as black adam i think the movie would have done great

[@Faust_YT]

Black Adam without Shazam was their first fatal mistake.

[@marcussabom2696]

Had this movie come out in the late 90s/early 2000s, this movie would have done much better. Problem was, this movie came out after comic book movies like Deadpool, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Logan, The Dark Knight, etc. This movie felt like such a step backwards.

[@baroncalamityplus]

Loved Dr Fate in this movie.

[@Rated314]

The Berlanti-verse sums up my complaint about this movie. At its peak, the BV was propped up equally by Arrow and The Flash. Tonally, each show had diametrically opposed motifs. Arrow was dark, broody, and almost exclusively existed under the cover of night... while The Flash was bright, fun, and was lit by the noon day sun. But where Arrow and Flash got it right during their crossovers, was where Black Adam face planted. When they'd crossover, they pick one of the motifs and commit to it. Black Adam vascilated back and forth between the two, light and gloomy. Under-developing both

[@leviathan_is_me]

Dr. Fate was WAY underutilized and even more under powered. Dr. Fate is A BEAST.

[@Extinguisher10]

Black Adam would have fit into the 2000's superhero movie scene nicely. It's not a bad movie, but it is if it's supposed to be your universe saver. I hope James Gunn can turn the ship around!

[@charyaka]

The thing that hurt me the most is people calling Doctor Fate a discount Dr. Strange. Like noooo stop.

[@rileybecerril7554]

He’s the problem in comics he’s a villain period, and is Shazam’s villain. He shouldn’t be a anti hero and he’s not allowed to lose in his movies which makes it suck. And he wants to be seen as a strong character before he gets too old. And him wanting Superman to be his villain is stupid

[@michaelmcdonnell3905]

Shazam/Black Adam fans wanted Shazam vs Black Adam. Super fans wanted Superman in solo movie again not as Black Adam's main rival.

[@sloppnbiscuiitz]

*Rock puts a small amount of effort in this role n we posed to give him a standing ovation..*

[@featherguardian6023]

While the Only Good Things about this Movie is Doctor Fate, Hawkman, and Dwayne Johnson is doing something Different than his usual Routine, the Bad Outweighs the Good, because of Terrible Choices by WB and Dwayne Johnson did, It Tainted the Shazam Lore,was the Final Straw for the DCEU Films and the Snyderverse, the Characters are Dryer than Sandpaper, the Special Effects looked Incomplete at Times, shows that making Pure Evil Villains into Antiheroes isn’t working anymore, and it makes us believe Henry Cavill was Flying back as Superman but in Actuality it was Fan Bait that was Prematurely brought Early Sinking Us in Deep Disappointment,WB and the Rock Clearly had No Idea what DC needed,Not what their Selfish Desires wanted it to Be, this needed to be a JSA Film.

[@jamesremus6777]

Dwayne is like that kid who invites you over to watch them play with their own toys.😅 He wanted to see his character fight Superman rather than his actual nemesis, SHAZAM A.K.A CAPTAIN MARVEL.

[@InLohmansTerms]

Fantastic job, Vee. Your writing gets better and better with each every new video you make

[@joshuathomson1998]

I actually really Enjoy Black Adam but sucks when your watching it u know that thire not going to be a sequel just like green lantern were left on a cliffhanger that will never be resolved

[@PosthumanHeresy]

What I hate is that The Rock, the wrestler, was one of the most charismatic, charming, and appealing heels in sports entertainment. It's good he took a challenging role, but he should have been able to use that to bring a better energy to the role. Dwayne's "I wanna fight Superman" is pure WWE brainrot. It's two contradictory goals. On one hand, he wants to play Stone Cold. On the other hand, he wants to recreate Rock vs Cena. Those cannot be combined.

[@EricJae.]

We just need the rock back in wrestling that’s when I loved him the most lol

[@mew10521]

He's old now

[@Jman7phxaz]

Same

[@P3rm4frost]

True his movies suck a lot.

[@maverickhunter24]

He's older and isn't built for it. Well not as a worker.

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

I don't care about wrestling at all but i completely agree he should go back to it. Anything, just so he stops doing movies.

[@D3athL1vin]

Its interesting that both black adam and now the flash essentially had to rely on unrelated major supporting characters to carry the film

[@gurugru5958]

I just can't forgive him for not wearing a wig. It's not a bald character

[@christaylor7916]

Lolll

[@redpapa859]

Black Adam just doesn't work without Captain Marvel AKA Shazam being a counter to him now this movie could have worked out if it was Shazam teaching him how to be better instead of some random kid off the street who happens to be related to the Mary Sue in the story 😂

[@lunchtrayboy]

Making almost $400 million from a movie about a non mainstream character without a china release is pretty good honestly I wouldn’t call it a flop

[@bigbearkat2010]

That it most likely cost more than it brought in is usually what gets a movie called a flop

[@lunchtrayboy]

@@bigbearkat2010 it could be argued that if it had a china release it wouldnt have flopped though

[@bigbearkat2010]

@@lunchtrayboy it could be but that's not what ended up happening

[@PosthumanHeresy]

@@lunchtrayboy If you put two hours of people taking a shit to film but those people were all American celebrities, it wouldn't flop in China. It's the only country with even lower standards for movie quality than America. Transformers being a box office smash repeatedly in America was bad enough, but it was even more successful there.

[@michaelmcdonnell3905]

@@lunchtrayboy There's no guarantee a China release would've saved the film.

[@DetectiveJones]

I was talking about DC with my brother recently and he dropped the bombshell of "Batman is carrying DC" which didn't sound like much to me at the moment because I was like...Well yeah, but then I had to stop and think about what the last DC movie was that I liked, so I was like Well The Batman was pretty good...and...The Joker...And uuuh...Well, the Dark Knight Trilogy was pretty great. I genuinely could not think of another DC movie, at least off the top of my head that was like a "Wow thats good!" Sorta movie. I liked Wonder woman and enjoyed Shazam but not as movies that I'd ever really revisit. Whereas the Batman I pretty much watched again right after, and don't even know how many times I watched Dark Knight trilogy. It sucks because there are a lot of cool characters and even a lot of the actors they got for them are great, I don't think you could get a better person than Henry Cavil as Superman. On top of the cliff dive Marvel has been doing, it would be nice for a more grounded, gritty superhero genre to take off.

[@michaelmcdonnell3905]

There is the rumour of Superman Legacy having a similar plot to Black Adam, Superman wants to stop a problem in the middle east his way but other heroes have their own ways of doing it. It's one of those movie plots that can be improved upon by reusing it in another movie.

[@lolbitandftfoxysayhello6262]

And hawk girl is on Superman legacy

[@joy_boy1000]

The heirarchy of DC universe did change as he foretold 😂🤷‍♂️

[@Spongebrain97]

Black Adam really gave me Star Wars prequel vibes where I get what the story is trying to do with characters but it isn't executed well. The arc Black Adam goes on is great on paper but it all falls flat and feels very rushed and not very compelling especially with him befriending that boy. By the end Black Adam cares about modern day Kondak and its people but it's not convincing because the films lacks compelling bonding moments. This is the opposite to how in Shazam we see how Billy grows to care for his foster family and it feels legit, not just because the plot tells him he needs to

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Yeah but the Star Wars Prequels except for the Phantom Menace are actually good.

[@gwell2118]

The problem with this movie is its not even so much that it is a flop. Its just to have saved the DCEU it would have had to be a monumental success that just wasn't going to happen. Like it would have had to bring in like a bill minimum to have justified keeping the overall franchise going given all the bombs that came before it. And if anyone thinks I'm overestimating not really, the DCEU was running on so many fumes that it needed a true salvation to keep it going. Black Adam honestly just had too much on it which is a shame as I don't think the film is terrible. Its not particularly great but it would have been a passable dumb action film if it didn't have the weight of the world on it.

[@bigbearkat2010]

I totally agree. The whole point of bringing in the Rock in the first place is that he's an action star who routinely brings in ticket sales, which is why he was given so much power over this movie. It's like when Tom Cruise was given so much creative control over The Mummy. The studio put up with his demands on the assumption his name above the title would make it a hit. Instead the movie became a glorified vanity project that became instantly forgotten outside of it's notoriety for showcasing the actor's ego.

[@gwell2118]

@@bigbearkat2010 Oh lord yes, which was real shame as I liked the idea of the Universal Monsters universe, but cruise just tanked that movie into a total glory fest to himself.

[@R.O.Pbutterztv]

No lie rock ego ruined the dceu by tryna face Superman instead of Shazam I still thought the movie was okay but if u would’ve seen Shazam in the cameo I felt it would’ve made a better intro for black Adam to be introduced to fight billy💯

[@lewisaino]

Have it be the Show Case of Return of Black Adam.

[@KingKidGoku32794]

Dceu was already ruined before the black adam movie especially that justice league movie from 2017

[@Brooklyn_Bleek]

The DCEU was already dead. Black Adam was a hail mary play to save it.

[@sheepman7014]

Honestly if Gunn can get a Dwayne that suppresses his ego a lil bit to where hes just Shazams villain but like you said could have an important role in later big installments then i could totally get with the rock having a second chance at the role

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

The DCEU was already dying at this point, Black Adam just didn't do enough to save it. Even though its actually a very enjoyable movie on its merits

[@nogrecords]

That's exactly right. Because it didn't make A BILLION DOLLARS, they decided to just give up on what they had been building up to, for the last TEN YEARS!..... I feel like had they just continued with Man of Steel 2, it *WOULD* have made them a Billy, and then they could have made Superman vs Black Adam & the fan base would have been happy. ...... Now they've shit the bed, and I feel like DC is just fucked. Hopefully Gunn makes a good Superman. But Henry Cavill was PERFECTLY cast, & he should have just kept him. AND DJ as BA. Super sad

[@TheMegawingzero]

Want is Worse is this movie has be in development for over 10 years. Yes, before Man of steel or Batman v Superman. For a film that was 10 years in the making. This is bi-polar, it as some fresh and new ideas mix with early 2000's superhero movies and what you you end up with is a mixed bag of a Film.

[@aidankeogh9994]

Dwayne wanted a movie where The Rock™ beats up Superman

[@cwell510]

I hope James Gunn keeps Zachary Levi as Shazam and recasts Black Adam so we can get thier iconic showdown! ⚡️

[@JamesLawner]

I really hate the fact how this movie hyped up Superman’s return to the DCEU, with even Henry Cavill boasting about it on his IG, only for everything to be completely scrapped later on. This movie was just terrible on 2nd watch, and the most exhausting movie to sit through given how action-packed it was. Biggest mistake was not making this movie take place in the past so the Justice Society’s placement wouldn’t have been so awkward (and the perfect opportunity for Black Adam to kill off the Justice Society too). I think The Rock wanted to do a villain/anti-hero movie in the same way the Venom movies became popular and it all blew up in his face.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

I think the biggest issue with the DCEU is that it lacks all the connective tissue that keeps DC Comics from sucking usually. And that's also the problem with the New 52. Plopping the JSA in like this just is another perfect reason it doesn't work. Imagine if we'd had a JSA trilogy. First movie is pre-WW2. Second movie is the trilogy's Empire Strikes Back, somewhat. The JSA wins by stopping the Nazis from winning, but also Hitler gets the Spear of Destiny and no longer can the JSA fight in the war. The third movie is post-war and covers the Fall of the JSA at the hands of Ragnarok and McCarthy.

[@ii2bcnii]

Thing I expect in a black adam movie: fight superman, wins lol magic. Fights Shazaan. Yet none of these things happened.

[@apophis7712]

To be fair, the DCEU was already killing itself lol

[@Oonagh72]

Damn, I forgot about all those extra people. I only remembered Black Atom, that little boy, and his Uncle. I remembered no one else. Dang.

[@nomadproductions4051]

Black Adam and Shazam Fury of the Gods should have been combined not the same movie. Both films had insane potential ad good ideas but both kind fumbles the final results. But I think taking what worked about both films and throw them together into one you might have the recipe for something truly special.

[@ericgaskins571]

It feels like all the DC movies are rushed. They just try and stuff as many characters into one movie as possible

[@JackylNest]

Bruh if you don't give brosnan his flowers...

[@andrewcook1246]

Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Dwayne Johnson and Jason Momoa couldn't save the DCEU. Trust me. They need to torch the place down and start from scratch.

[@tonyhamilton6948]

You do have some Strong points when you're talking about this movie and I agree with you on some things. This IS a Good movie and I enjoyed it, I honestly like this way that Black Adam came to be instead of the comic version I hope that we (or at least I) come to see more of this Black Adam in the movies than the comic version. It would be Cool to see how he goes up against Superman, Batman and others If they have Flash, they should have Grant's Flash instead of Miller's Flash (I saw that movie and TV Flash is way better).

[@marcacosta7594]

I would love to see a Dr. Fate, Hawkman, Wonder (Gal Gadot) Woman movie.

[@emperorsean1]

I thought it was good. I think Black adam shouldve appeared in the Shazam 2 movie first and then this movie. I wish the other jsa characters had been in it like jay garrick flash and others.

[@thisisnotachannel]

"A rock? That is no rock." I actually liked the movie... and I don't exactly think that it "ruined" the DCEU... that was done long ago at this point, by Hamada, Johns, and probably numerous other figureheads at WB/DC. However, Dwayne DID put way too much stock in his star power and how much leverage that has given him in the movie industry. But the movie itself? Black Adam being an "anti-hero" isn't without precedent... he even fought alongside the JSA at one point, becoming good friends with Jay Garrick in particular. So... anyway, I liked the movie. But you make several valid points, too. You always do, Vee. And I will say... they killed.off Kent Nelson way too early. Dr. Fate had SO MUCH material to contribute to the Snyderverse moving forward... oh, wait. Nevermind.

[@chrismize2738]

Should have been a Shazam movie. Billy Bateson could have functioned in the T2kid role. Would have helped tie it all together. Different story of course. But would have help build the universe. It felt like a one off, with some great supporting characters with Fate and Hawkman and worst with the others.

[@cjmania1980]

I don’t care how much people criticize this movie for failing at the box office, it’s still one of the most enjoyable out of the DCEU universe.

[@pennywisethedancingclown2246]

Meh. The Suicide Squad, Shazam, Wonder Woman and Man of Steel are better

[@simonj9631]

I enjoy your video essays very much. They are very well put together and articulate. 💯

[@marveldeadpooltm9111]

I think they killed off doctor fate because the original Doctor fate dies. In the comics but his powers and soul lives on in the helmet. And his powers increase the powers of the next welder of his powers. At the cost of the original Doctor fate taking over the new user's body.

[@SgtBrutalisk]

Allegedly, Dwayne Johnson is a proper Hollywood diva and his acting contracts contain a clause that states that he can never lose an on-screen fight. "Black Adam" strikes me as that clause extended to feature length, with the script playing out accordingly. Dwayne Johnson ambles through the on-screen world and things explode as if struck by a nuclear missile whenever he makes contact with them, to which he barely reacts (the scene where he walks through a wall is the perfect example of what I mean). There is no energy to anything he does but because the script demands he be an unstoppable force that's how things play out. His quips are forgettable as well. The high point of the movie is Pierce Brosnan's performance and I would gladly pay to watch a Dr. Fate standalone movie. My suggestion is to watch all the Pierce Brosnan scenes in the movie and skip all the rest.

[@PfizZz]

It would have been nice to have a Justice Society film before this one. I enjoyed those characters quite a bit, and some more set up for them would have made Fate's, erm, fate, more powerful as well as develop the love story between the kids and the friendship between Fate and Hawkman

[@grkpektis]

Good Riddance to the DCEU I won't miss it at all

[@adamdolatowski409]

First time we get to see these heroes too on a big screen and they're just like underwhelming cameos.

[@tdlpedro2009]

“The Passion of The Rock”. Now that’s a movie I’d pay to see.

[@joshfactor1]

no, i'm pretty sure the one with blood on his hands is david zaslav

[@The_Phantasm]

The DCEU was never really alive to begin with.

[@jakekreeger5318]

Let me get this straight. I haven’t seen this movie. I heard it wasn’t a bad movie I heard it wasn’t a great movie. From everything I have heard, basically though, it’s essentially just a case that the movie need to focus up. They need to make the script tighter, the cast leaner, the focus more poignant. Otherwise it was good, if flabby. To that end, outside of making the cast smaller, I think they really needed to focus on making a more memorable villain. Someone who could stand in contrast to the protagonist, and I think they should’ve also gone with Hawkgirl rather than Hawkman. She is the more recognizable character after the justice league animated series. She’s also far more beloved.

[@thepanelbiter9915]

You know you’ve messed up when 3 of the superpowered characters in the film have ties to ancient Egypt and only one them gets to talk about that.

[@UnifiedEntity]

Wait woah, Rock has played plenty of serious character types before. Scorpion King, Hobbs from Fast Five, Gridiron Gang, I forgot the characters name but in Doom to name a few.

[@derekfreeman1942]

The DCEU died in 2017 with Josstice league every movie aside from Aquaman didn't make money. Black Adam was pretty good in my opinion.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

Dr. Fate is the best and maybe the only good thing about this movie

[@lewisaino]

Cyclone was Waifu Material though 😊😊😊

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@lewisaino I don't even know why she was in the movie, well I do but her or that dumb version of Adam who looked like Deadpool didn't really do anything

[@Immy_Islam786]

Black Adam didn't kill the DCEU. The DCEU up to that point was already dead. The movie that did that was BvS: Dawn of Martha and the over 50 percent second weekend BO drop it had. I know people personally who said they're not gonna bother watching another DCEU movie because they were so disappointed with BvS. Considering the BO returns for the DCEU movies (Bar Aquaman) a lot of the general movie going audiences were too. Imagine making a Batman and Superman movie, and that movie makes less than what a Captain Marvel and Black Panther movie does. That's not a reflection on the MCU, that's a reflection of how badly WB, Snyder botched those early DCEU movies. It's no coincidence that Joker and The Batman, two movies outside the DCEU are the only two DC movies that are loved by critics and fans. Here's hoping James Gunn and Peter Safran can wash away the stench the DCEU has had these past ten years.

[@grapeshot]

I actually liked the movie,to me it was just a superhero movie no more no less.

[@donnie2832]

I tried watching this movie but the kid got on my nerves so bad I couldn’t finish it.

[@shalinalewis2957]

He was absolutely horrible.

[@KeithNovember]

After watching 5 of your videos all the way through, I finally hit subscribe. I have become a statistic.

[@MrLogic204]

I laughed at him telling the kid "tell them the man in black sent you" it was cool his character was trying it out.

[@xMoac]

My biggest issue with the movie is that Black Adam could have been a terminator 2 movie … but what was lacking is the focus and a well done “father-protector” relationship between the machine and the boy. The movie should have kept closer to terminator 2 plot points and beats … it had too much noise instead.

[@ArakiForgot]

I’ve never seen your channel before today….not only did you keep me entertained,I laughed a few times and that damn outro….take my like sub and comment my good sir

[@aroccoification]

"Traditionally a villian?" Hes pretty much 100% of the time a villian. Producers right now just like making villians heros for some reason right now

[@shawnamiller191]

The dceu died when Johnathan Kent told young Clark he should have let a bunch of children drown then made him and Martha watch him die.

[@agonizingstarbutterfly1184]

Soo,you making a video on that twisted metal show? It was surprisingly good.