Why Coal Country Elected Trump

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@VICENews
@VICENews 4 жыл бұрын
VICE’s Isobel Yeung goes to the heart of coal country to see what it will take to save Appalachia. WATCH NEXT: Meet The Indiana Joneses of Hawaiian Plant Rescue Missions - kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2qxoKRqbriqrs0
@ohne279
@ohne279 4 жыл бұрын
VOTE FOR TRUMP
@ohne279
@ohne279 4 жыл бұрын
@@americansforhire5378 do you have a TIA 😂
@americansforhire5378
@americansforhire5378 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohne279 of course I maybe
@TOMAS-lh4er
@TOMAS-lh4er 4 жыл бұрын
@@americansforhire5378 They are being hit like "DETROIT" , and " STEEL" did in the seventies and 80s !
@ropro9817
@ropro9817 4 жыл бұрын
That shit caaaaaaaan't be good for your lungs... Isobel, why aren't you wearing a mask???
@TheLazyass111
@TheLazyass111 4 жыл бұрын
Not a trump supporter. But the people like this and others from the midwest have been ignored for years and as jobs leave and people lose ways to support their family, they will vote for whoever gives them the time of day
@jenniekelly571
@jenniekelly571 4 жыл бұрын
It's been that way for 50 years. I can't believe that the people in this country actually believe what a candidate says while they are campaigning, then expect them to keep their word. I cannot name 1 candidate in the past 40 years (that's how long I've observed) that kept their campaign promises when they made it to the Oval Office, NONE!! So when people's remark is, "He/She said they were going to do that once they were President." Really??? I wanted to be a Rock Star when I was younger, my Mom told me I could. I can't sing well, but Mom told me I could do it, and I expect her to keep her word........................Give me a break.......
@Mekose
@Mekose 4 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is Trump lied (big surprise); he's cutting funding for Appalachia AND Coal despite what he said. So these poor people voted for a man that immediately went against his promise and were left with no representation.
@jenniekelly571
@jenniekelly571 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mekose Unfortunately, it's been that way for 40 years. ALL people campaigning for President tell people what they want to hear, then don't do what they said they were going to do. I'm 53, every Presidential candidate since I was 13 (that's when I started to pay attention) has lied, ALL OF THEM. It REALLY surprises me that anyone believes anything a candidate says.............
@apajpap
@apajpap 4 жыл бұрын
They tried government programs to retrain coal workers but they hate big gubament
@Lex60
@Lex60 4 жыл бұрын
That´s populism. Is always the same in poor places.
@michaelvance4492
@michaelvance4492 4 жыл бұрын
I was born in Logan, WV grew up in a coal mining family and lived in Belfry, KY for a couple of years before returning back to WV. I was taught at a young age that it was either mining or college. No in between. And that if I chose college, I'd have to leave my home to find work. Seeing all the towns and communities I grew up around, dying, boarded up, half empty because their only economy is being closed has given me a goal and purpose that I will work tirelessly to fill. I went to college and obtained a cybersecurity degree and currently, I am working with state officials and programs to help establish a tech industry in Southern WV. Tired of seeing my people desperate for change and everyone in DC pretending like we don't exist until elections come up. We know coal isn't the future, but when it's all you have you'll do what you can to keep it. A coal miner makes anywhere from $40k-$80k a year and even more when you get into specialist roles like roof bolting or fireboss. There's nothing else in these communities to replace that kind of salary and when you have a bunch of people making that kind of money, feeding it into the local economy, when those jobs are gone, the stores and businesses in town start to close. This has got to change and I, along with many other Appalachians are leading that change.
@yidy1
@yidy1 4 жыл бұрын
You're doing holy work! Keep it up!
@brianeckland7913
@brianeckland7913 4 жыл бұрын
Good for you. Keep it up
@elasmotherium12
@elasmotherium12 4 жыл бұрын
That’s very encouraging to hear. Keep it up.
@zbdmo4914
@zbdmo4914 4 жыл бұрын
great job!
@henk-3098
@henk-3098 4 жыл бұрын
It's sad to hear, really! Coal is the past, West-Virginia needs to find other sources of economic activity, I hope your plan succeeds! It's really encouraging seeing someone return to a struggling state instead of leaving it for good!
@chrishealey7092
@chrishealey7092 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, those kids doing the 3d printing are remarkable and bright-I really hope that they are able to modernize the communities and lift them and their families out of poverty.
@JKenpachu
@JKenpachu 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus.... were are modernized. Pull your head out of your ass. It’s not like we’re living here with horse drawn carriages.
@97Multiphantom
@97Multiphantom 4 жыл бұрын
Kenpachu no one is saying you guys aren’t caught up with the rest of the country in terms of technological advancements. Where you aren’t modernized is in your work culture. Coal mines stopped being a viable source of income for workers years ago, but instead of trying to move on to something else, the vast majority of you cling to the words of business moguls and the politicians in their pockets that your jobs are magically coming back somehow, dispute all evidence pointing to the contrary.
@usaryder74
@usaryder74 4 жыл бұрын
They will have to move to bigger centers. We will have more and more ghost towns near coal mines. The decline of communities.
@christiansantos7164
@christiansantos7164 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Healey yess! I’m so proud of them. The new generation is so much better at embracing change. I pray that they become a technology hub in their region. Those kids will hit the ground running!
@muuubiee
@muuubiee 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how much they actually did, since I don't know what is contained in a prescription. If the prescription contain a 3d model all they had to do was use something like blender to convert it to an .stl, and then hit print (with a suitable material, like PTU). If they had to code an interpreter for the prescription then they're actually bright. At least they're on the right track, and just getting familiar with tech is a huge step. Doing things you don't really understand is sometimes the hardest part in learning. So hats off to them.
@star4shine100
@star4shine100 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from a Liberal and acknowledging that Vice tends to be more left leaning, I'm really happy they ran this episode. The idea that all Trump supporters are uneducated, insulated and racist is quite a classist outlook, and silences the voice of millions of Americans who really do (and understandably so) feel forgotten. Props to Isobel for another great segment!
@ysf-psfx
@ysf-psfx 9 ай бұрын
As a left-winger, neolibs like Reagan and Clinton and you are the reason we have these problems.
@Dankdalorde
@Dankdalorde 4 жыл бұрын
Coal is a dying industry. It’s sad though that these people have to be in the middle of it-even if we may disagree politically
@bjxxx
@bjxxx 4 жыл бұрын
Even if coal was a viable energy option, automation would still do away with the vast majority of those jobs. That part seems to fly over the heads of many who dream of the good old days.
@General_Eisenhower1945
@General_Eisenhower1945 4 жыл бұрын
Coals gonna be viable till it's gone. Frankly I'm waiting for steam to return and destroy the new electric locomotive.
@bjxxx
@bjxxx 4 жыл бұрын
@@General_Eisenhower1945 the jobs will still be gone due to automation. Not coming back.
@General_Eisenhower1945
@General_Eisenhower1945 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjxxx some will be, but you can still have a job in the industry maintaining/ managing the machines
@KevinRAAMAAAGE
@KevinRAAMAAAGE 4 жыл бұрын
I live in a coal state and I agree. There are a lot of impoverished people in wyoming. Most of the rich people move in from out of state, like the Cheney's. The only good thing we have is new roads... thankfully were catching on quickly with wind farms and we sell the majority of our power to large cities that may not be capable of having a windfarm. I'm happy to say 100% of our electricity is from the windfarm up the road. Now we still have gas, and sometimes it can suck because 1 raccoon is capable of leaving 10,000+ people without power for a day.
@CB-db1qx
@CB-db1qx 4 жыл бұрын
"Rusty Justice". Please take a moment to admire that name.
@saqibzaman1476
@saqibzaman1476 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly the most hillbilly name ever but I rate him creating jobs for people in his community
@devinfritchey7323
@devinfritchey7323 4 жыл бұрын
@Richard Ainsworth Hahahah..........you made me sad
@donalobroin1775
@donalobroin1775 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Robocop spin-off set post retirement.
@maulrieze
@maulrieze 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a blues band
@eifelitorn
@eifelitorn 4 жыл бұрын
there's also a baseball player named Rusty Kuntz, admire that..
@doingtime20
@doingtime20 4 жыл бұрын
"The only constant in life is change". It kind of baffles me that even in this day and age where we have so much information at our disposal people don't realize this truth, things always change. Just because the job was available and was very profitable for your grandfather and father doesn't mean it will be there waiting for you and will provide you your whole life, you have to observe your environment and realize the changes that come, and of course act accordingly to them.
@TESkyrimizer
@TESkyrimizer 4 жыл бұрын
So true. Its the same not with coal but with oil. Look at what happened to Venezuela.
@keerthivelm7530
@keerthivelm7530 4 жыл бұрын
I say "Change alone is permanent"
@IHateMyAccountName
@IHateMyAccountName 4 жыл бұрын
When something is provided and seemingly guaranteed for generations, it warps your sense of the world around you. The lack of education and resources in the areas where coal is the strongest keeps these people insulated. It's sad.
@RegicideKo9
@RegicideKo9 4 жыл бұрын
Alright, and I'm sure you'll say the same thing to the black kid in the ghetto that joined a gang just so he could get some food. White rural kids are in the same exact position. Money doesn't pop up out of nowhere and there aren't any 'white rural kid' scholarships going around.
@jonproxy2758
@jonproxy2758 4 жыл бұрын
What lol? You’ve worked in a coal mine for 40 years and you got laid off!? Just learn how to code dude. SO easy bro.
@marvinwilliams4223
@marvinwilliams4223 4 жыл бұрын
Let me guess before watching the video. These people had hopes that their jobs would come back and they would thrive but either nothing happened or things got worse....
@marvinwilliams4223
@marvinwilliams4223 4 жыл бұрын
After watching the video. Damn I was in point.
@MicahMicahel
@MicahMicahel 4 жыл бұрын
well... the economy is great and unemployment is a the lowest level in 50 years. Doesn't that count for something?
@darkninja___
@darkninja___ 4 жыл бұрын
Nutsilica: Renaissance moving comix The economy is only good for the rich. If you are in the bottom 50% things have gotten worse, not better.
@Rocmax417
@Rocmax417 4 жыл бұрын
Nutsilica: Renaissance moving comix the Dow is down 2000 points this week, the biggest loss in American history
@rmdgarfias
@rmdgarfias 4 жыл бұрын
Not really, they are trying to move on bro, those kids.... at least....
@kingsfan4life2
@kingsfan4life2 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I really feel for those people. They all just seem like honest, hardworking folks.
@jackmomma7481
@jackmomma7481 2 жыл бұрын
Not quite. Most miners are not the good hard working people that propaganda makes them out to be. Don't get me wrong, there are some good ones you will work with that keep things real and will do the work... but they're few and far between
@abstract5249
@abstract5249 3 ай бұрын
@@jackmomma7481 What do you mean? Most miners? Honestly asking.
@fiddlestickzmuzik
@fiddlestickzmuzik 4 жыл бұрын
That town should look at inventing some sort of year round tourism like hiking, mountain biking and something to do with the natural beauty of the mountains and surrounding land.
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 жыл бұрын
Those jobs dont pay 30$ an hr and the big $ coal mine owners dont care about them
@crossthekxng943
@crossthekxng943 4 жыл бұрын
its what southern Appalachia does, but it still shrouded in poverty, because tourist jobs don't pay that well but much better off than the coal towns
@XiangYu94
@XiangYu94 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment, seriously we should be brainstorming new industries.
@jrsmith2696
@jrsmith2696 4 жыл бұрын
They do that’s not going to cut it. Tech companies should invest in that area. Lots of cheap land and cheap buildings to use.
@michaelyu3678
@michaelyu3678 4 жыл бұрын
@@jrsmith2696 well they need the money for it but not now and they're focusing on the rich cities
@dk2428
@dk2428 4 жыл бұрын
Who else is having trouble breathing, just watching this video!?
@mrfaysal2485
@mrfaysal2485 4 жыл бұрын
Not me ,,me
@3TYKX
@3TYKX 4 жыл бұрын
Me. I know its her job but every time VICE sends Isobel to these dangerous places I can't breath.
@iVince905
@iVince905 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people got lung cancer after watching this video
@cashen7384
@cashen7384 4 жыл бұрын
i want to see the inside of the guys lungs that was wearing the doom shirt. bet their black
@Kradle
@Kradle 4 жыл бұрын
Those are some very sharp high-schoolers. Even they know they're relying on a dying industry. We should try to find ways to establish industry related to power and infrastructure in towns like this too, instead of holding onto a dying industry. Seems like they're more dynamic and open to changing with the times than the media and public want to frame them out as.
@fredpinczuk7352
@fredpinczuk7352 4 жыл бұрын
Given those kids free education and watch what they will accomplish. Burden them with debts from day 1 after graduating, and watch the cycle repeat itself.
@anthonymartinez4780
@anthonymartinez4780 4 жыл бұрын
If they were smart they'd be looking at colleges or trade schools that can give lead them to a better future and if they choose to stay in the energy sector they can go into natural gas or renewable energy. If they choose to stay in a dying industry then they are as stupid as their parents.
@ryhol5417
@ryhol5417 4 жыл бұрын
Be a welder or electrical lineman. You’ll make more than nurses, and likely more than your coal town family together
@randyeddington4405
@randyeddington4405 4 жыл бұрын
Pack up and leave everything you ever loved or cared for, tell me how easy it is for you.....
@ryhol5417
@ryhol5417 4 жыл бұрын
@@randyeddington4405 people have done that since the beginning of people. If there’s nothing there, move and make things better for your family
@AidenYuso
@AidenYuso 4 жыл бұрын
6:34 can we just admire that doom t shirt
@lkym2481
@lkym2481 4 жыл бұрын
somebody call GQ
@ezradelsman6743
@ezradelsman6743 4 жыл бұрын
Hanger theme intensifies
@vaper8824
@vaper8824 4 жыл бұрын
A man of culture
@brianwilliams7335
@brianwilliams7335 4 жыл бұрын
and have NO PITY for someone that has 6 fuckin children! and then complain your poor...... pppfft
@KevinHowardMusic
@KevinHowardMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Williams, He had a good job when he had the kids. I’ll bet he knows the difference in your, and you’re, as well. That’s more than I can say about you.
@jimmybond148
@jimmybond148 4 жыл бұрын
I think there’s been a significant improvement in vice documentaries in the last year
@shivmishra1372
@shivmishra1372 4 жыл бұрын
Yes they’re
@theoriginaltommysteward
@theoriginaltommysteward 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! It's really good to see.
@nicolascrosbie7875
@nicolascrosbie7875 4 жыл бұрын
They’re at least covering stuff like this and the uyghurs.
@jono601
@jono601 4 жыл бұрын
Because it’s their livelihood. You try switching careers when you’re 40.
@Worldofourown2024
@Worldofourown2024 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody hardly wants to hire you when you get past 40. Ageism is a very real issue of employment discrimination. If you limp or have some flaw, then you are perpetually at great disadvantage. While we don't have pensions coming our way like older generations, we also mostly don't enjoy solid full time stable career opportunity with employment security. It's a crapanomic system...
@nmarrs8539
@nmarrs8539 4 жыл бұрын
Yea but, since this industry has been slowly dying for 50 years. Maybe just maybe they should look for something else as how to make money. It’s not like they couldn’t see this coming. They didn’t want to believe it. They stuck their heads in the sand and now they’re in trouble. Go figure.
@MrMccurley
@MrMccurley 4 жыл бұрын
@@nmarrs8539 While I detested HRC's crude comments, I agree with you. Not saying fossil fuels are "evil", I can see a strong future for natural gas, but coal is so damned dirty a fuel, it's use should be phased out.
@FYMASMD
@FYMASMD 4 жыл бұрын
I switched careers at 40. 57 now. Worked out great. Just have to pick well and work at it. I'm going to be able to retire at 65 now. It can be done.
@lukecronquist6003
@lukecronquist6003 4 жыл бұрын
Boo hoo you can switch careers when you're 90.
@sammaelazrael6309
@sammaelazrael6309 4 жыл бұрын
Desperate people do desperate things.
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 4 жыл бұрын
Sammael Azrael Voting for trump the first time was a desperate choice. Realize he lied and let’s get a strong blue collar economy back in America again. Shift these coal jobs to green energy.
@adamkingston2231
@adamkingston2231 4 жыл бұрын
CheezusCrust like electing someone who isn’t corrupt and cares about average people
@vaper8824
@vaper8824 4 жыл бұрын
Sammael Azrael I would rather suck sausages than work in a coal mine
@rayage777
@rayage777 4 жыл бұрын
Except go to school to learn a new trade, because "it's a scary transition". When you have the idea of my grandpa did it, my daddy did it, so I do it and that is what this state was founded on, then you are never going to advance. California was founded on gold, how many gold miners are there still in California?
@artman7780
@artman7780 4 жыл бұрын
They should get condoms and stop having 6 kids (comparable to third world nations) to stop this desperation.
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 жыл бұрын
The truest statement about coal that has ever been stated: “ Appalachia’s aren’t in love with coal, they are in love with the American dream”! This was the most touching thing I have ever heard finally someone understands.
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s hope that’s not true.... even the smallest pea sized amount of hope can move mountains.
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 жыл бұрын
You talk of education but all I hear is ignorance and racism towards a group of individuals that came to America poor and took jobs in the mines to provide for their families the only way they could at the time... those individuals were wage slaves so are their grand children and great grand children due to a flawed and corrupt system that feeds off the weak and just keeps making the rich and elite richer.
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with America isn’t what people grasp at .... The media and the one percent want Americans against one another they use race and gender to divide because if we all came together and broke the chains of this wage slave system and realized everyone deserves better we would turn on them and forge a better America that literally scares the Hell out of the masters they would lose control and have to go into hiding do yourselves a favor and wake up from the sheep mentality and enlighten yourself enough to see groups of people from different races aren’t the enemy it’s this system that we keep making excuses for and acting like everything is fine when it’s not we all deserve better (all lives matter)!
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 жыл бұрын
People act like education is free and the student loan debt system is not flawed.. that paying for your way of life while drowning in student loans while never getting ahead as the housing market and ways of living dramatically increase are normal and healthy as the wages stay the same ..what a gilded life you must live not see the toxicity right in front of your eyes....either you live off the government and take advantage of others or your are a slave to your debt and can never make ends meet literally dying from the struggle barely enjoying a so called life as it passes.
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you read this ebony panther and “Wake Up” more Americans need to band together and throw racism aside so we all can make America great again doesn’t have anything to do with ole trump to want patriotism and love back in America and a better way of life.
@CaptainFantastic222
@CaptainFantastic222 4 жыл бұрын
Dying industry. These people need job training programs so that they can learn new skills
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 жыл бұрын
foy22chris22 They don’t want to evolve or better themselves by learning new skills or a new trade. You can’t force these dumbasses to advance themselves in the job market. 🤣
@neeneko
@neeneko 4 жыл бұрын
What they need is a paid migration where the whole population is moved to a place experiencing labor shortages. No amount of training is going to help these isolated communities, there just isn't enough reason for money to flow into them.
@farkasabel
@farkasabel 4 жыл бұрын
@@jayripper7272 and what you you do when programs will overtake your office job dumbass?
@farkasabel
@farkasabel 4 жыл бұрын
@@jayripper7272 www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/05/japanese-company-replaces-office-workers-artificial-intelligence-ai-fukoku-mutual-life-insurance
@thejoshiclesofjoshua8372
@thejoshiclesofjoshua8372 4 жыл бұрын
a "Green new deal" if you will
@NortonNice
@NortonNice 4 жыл бұрын
8:08 "That's the dream?" "That's the goal." This kid is going places.
@Worldofourown2024
@Worldofourown2024 4 жыл бұрын
Kid made a brilliant response at 8:08. These kids have a couple good teachers batting for them probably teaching and coaching them very well.
@snoogboonin
@snoogboonin 4 жыл бұрын
You have to live where the jobs are these days. Living in rural America limits the amount job opportunities that are available.
@colddiesel
@colddiesel 4 жыл бұрын
Or move to where they are.
@user-bj8lw8tx1o
@user-bj8lw8tx1o 3 жыл бұрын
No. We have remote work now.
@syd5380
@syd5380 3 жыл бұрын
Ah so we’ll all just move to the cities
@Blank-km4qr
@Blank-km4qr 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow why didn’t they think of that let’s just move this entire family of 10 300 miles while they have no money or applicable skills
@taf4939
@taf4939 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blank-km4qr that would be socialism, they hate socialism. They should pick up themselves by their bootstraps
@hwong1776
@hwong1776 4 жыл бұрын
This is just like Detroit and the car industry
@RIFLQ
@RIFLQ 4 жыл бұрын
Except the community understand the problem and know what need to be done
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 жыл бұрын
Nope Obumber bailed them out
@markg.7865
@markg.7865 4 жыл бұрын
@@Youngsavge-or2ro So what is Trump when he gives billions to farmers hurt by his stupid trade war? Maybe Mexico will pay the farmers for Trump's incompetence.
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 жыл бұрын
@@markg.7865 he is keeping Merica great again Why wouldnt u want your food here if u live in the USA
@bjxxx
@bjxxx 4 жыл бұрын
@@Youngsavge-or2ro if farmers want their bailouts that makes them socialists. No different than a welfare queen.
@TemujinKhan8
@TemujinKhan8 4 жыл бұрын
As a liberal, I am rooting for these (mostly conservative) coal miners and their communities. It will take time to transition from coal, but a bigger focus on education will diversify their economies and bring new industries.
@FloridaMan786
@FloridaMan786 2 жыл бұрын
We don’t need to transition from coal. The only reason the democrats are promoting that idea is cause they have huge stakes in renewable energy companies. They promote anything they can make a laws and regulations around that will benefit their investments. They know climate change is BS. It’s another way to control you and for them to make money.
@tomjones6944
@tomjones6944 4 жыл бұрын
"It's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it" ~ George Carlin
@user-yq5ky9ub2b
@user-yq5ky9ub2b 4 жыл бұрын
Are you American, or even European (American taxpayers paid for wwIIs aftermath)? Do you have the computer or phone to post that message. Well you, my friend, are living the American dream.
@kimanigrey-campbell7976
@kimanigrey-campbell7976 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-yq5ky9ub2b I don't think that was the American dream, but its different each person.
@armandochavez9510
@armandochavez9510 4 жыл бұрын
4 0 Google American Dream bro
@campkira
@campkira 4 жыл бұрын
wrong era...
@Pocko213
@Pocko213 4 жыл бұрын
If you live in America you're already the richest 2 percent on the planet. Sick and tired of reading this shit from people that have heated homes, 3 good meals a day, internet access, police protection, the right to criticise the Govt, a free press, welfare and make more than $2 a day etc. Be grateful for what you have
@timmachin3830
@timmachin3830 4 жыл бұрын
This is Wales in the 80's with the added problem that kids have to pay for higher education and everyone pays if they get sick. Difficult times.
@TheBiostacle
@TheBiostacle 4 жыл бұрын
“That’s the dream?” “That the goal.” 8:01 Fantastic answer, the future is bright.
@forestpark73
@forestpark73 4 жыл бұрын
Their local govt should have taken advantage of the decades of influx of people and business and invested other industries there instead of just coal.
@kas6345
@kas6345 4 жыл бұрын
too stupid for that
@KevinHowardMusic
@KevinHowardMusic 4 жыл бұрын
KAS, it has nothing to do with how intelligent these people are. The people around here with the money to bring other industry into the area are the same ones making a profit off of the monopolization coal has. A great example would be the airport that was supposed to be built in pike county. The project was shut down by coal barons, because it could have lead to competition from other industries.
@forestpark73
@forestpark73 4 жыл бұрын
KAS thats what happens when you get the wrong people in office.
@Pocko213
@Pocko213 4 жыл бұрын
Other industries such as?
@forestpark73
@forestpark73 4 жыл бұрын
Pocko213 so the way good mayors and congressmen/women work is they manage cities according to their needs. If you’ve sat in you local town meetings or watched hearings, that’s where you will have people who rally for the expansions of education, commerce, farming, creating exports of goods with businesses who negotiate to expand into profiting towns and cities. Historically there have been opportunities for WV towns and cities to expand their realm of industry and commerce, but they seemed to believe that coal was more than sufficient and would only invite competition. That’s why WV is known only as coal country and nothing else. At this rate it will probably fade off.
@sabineriley379
@sabineriley379 4 жыл бұрын
“Daddy work like a mule mining pike county coal” tyler Childers
@nicke1903
@nicke1903 4 жыл бұрын
Keep your nose on the grindstone and outta the pills
@thebeardedvoice6819
@thebeardedvoice6819 4 жыл бұрын
sabine riley he fucked up his back he couldn’t work anymore...
@andypuga6048
@andypuga6048 4 жыл бұрын
The Bearded Voice he said one of these days you’ll get out of these hills
@Nimrodbodeinejr
@Nimrodbodeinejr 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from pikeville ky all we no is coal
@fortis3686
@fortis3686 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Because nothing says “Mercia” and “capitalism” like seeing dozens of men contracting and slowly die from black lung
@reedw.5477
@reedw.5477 4 жыл бұрын
Well the green energy just isn't good enough yet for it to be obtainable
@Moka66
@Moka66 4 жыл бұрын
@@reedw.5477 Only if actions are made. Denmark produced 47% of electricity from wind 2019.
@theactivecoconut6077
@theactivecoconut6077 4 жыл бұрын
Reed W. What? There are many operating solar and wind farms, hydro plants, geothermal plants, nuclear plants, natural gas plants etc... and there have been for decades. Coal is uncompetitive, dirty, unhealthy, and dangerous for miners. Appalachia needs to move on gradually from coal.
@reedw.5477
@reedw.5477 4 жыл бұрын
@@Moka66 there population is 5.6 million. That's no where near the amount of people we have..
@reedw.5477
@reedw.5477 4 жыл бұрын
@@theactivecoconut6077 yeah, and how much fields would be taken up by turbines to supply 1/100 of the US power supply?
@kastonian69
@kastonian69 4 жыл бұрын
im going to probably be the first non coal miner out of all my family.
@000wanderlust
@000wanderlust 3 жыл бұрын
What career are you pursuing?
@rg31404
@rg31404 4 жыл бұрын
6:55 "... left holding on to hope that coal jobs will *return*" Oh my gosh, how is it possible that these hard working people haven't understood 15 years ago that coal is dead.
@domcizek
@domcizek 2 жыл бұрын
Well, they did not think about the future or keep up with the times and where America is going with renewables, but their children are thinking of that and moving on
@nostalgicvibes3122
@nostalgicvibes3122 2 жыл бұрын
Because they’re too busy surviving and trying to make it
@gamer4vr638
@gamer4vr638 4 жыл бұрын
A good alternative for these coal miners is to find jobs in silicon mining.
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 жыл бұрын
gamer4vr Nah just let natural selection take its course and kill these guys off.
@a-10wartaboo77
@a-10wartaboo77 4 жыл бұрын
I think they are all in China
@joshgraybill182
@joshgraybill182 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Ripper wtf
@DeviantDespot
@DeviantDespot 4 жыл бұрын
These people outbreed the academic types like a ratio of 10 to 1, they aren't going anywhere soon.
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Graybill you heard me pal
@butterchuggins5409
@butterchuggins5409 4 жыл бұрын
So much winning, folks
@Adrian_Nel
@Adrian_Nel 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah,you're going to get tired of all the winning! Puhleazze
@rickiex
@rickiex 4 жыл бұрын
as a great republican man once said, "if life sucks where you live, just sell your house and move" - ben sapiro
@Skallado
@Skallado 4 жыл бұрын
No one will buy a house in any of those towns right now
@surfhappens202
@surfhappens202 4 жыл бұрын
Wait wait this one is better and my favorite. "Just stop being poor idiot" - Ben the reeee
@rickiex
@rickiex 4 жыл бұрын
@@Skallado that's exactly the point, the stupidity behind Ben sapiro and his stupid solutions for people, and yet somehow, the right wing eats his shit up like Sunday morning with the gospel
@Ironsix6six
@Ironsix6six 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Soypiro
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 жыл бұрын
rickiex MAGA voters look at right wing leaders like if they were GODS and KINGS. They are quite pathetic. They ain’t wired right and have severe mental illness. 🤣😂
@gunnerdohrenwend227
@gunnerdohrenwend227 4 жыл бұрын
Breaking news: the horse-and-buggy industry is dying
@playstationer7321
@playstationer7321 4 жыл бұрын
That's the attitude that cost Dems the election.
@Worldofourown2024
@Worldofourown2024 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it really did. The Amish don't use those so much anymore like 20 or more years ago. They pay people milk and homemade candy to drive them. Why? They were getting hit too much by cars not paying attention going too fast and then it's quicker and more practical to ride in a vehicle to pick up supplies in town such as molasses, oats, etc.
@addanametocontinue
@addanametocontinue 4 жыл бұрын
@@playstationer7321 That's debatable. What isn't debatable is that Trump made promises for coal workers and never came through. Coal workers can laugh all they want at the "other" party, but when I wake up on Monday, I'll still have a good paying job in tech: they'll still be waiting for the Orange Messiah to save them.
@myrlewulf6256
@myrlewulf6256 4 жыл бұрын
@@addanametocontinue Insensitive
@Matt-fl8uy
@Matt-fl8uy 4 жыл бұрын
@@playstationer7321 That' the *honesty* that cost the Dems those voters. Trump lied to them and said he could bring Big Coal back. Even after cutting safety regulations, the industry hasn't recovered because the major consumers like power companies are moving to natural gas and renewables.
@andypotanin
@andypotanin 4 жыл бұрын
9:23 "we intend to make a business out of this.". Hell yeah, these kids are not messing around.
@kelz_b
@kelz_b 4 жыл бұрын
That First Lady sounds like stinky off of “Hey Arnold”
@chico305SIGMA
@chico305SIGMA 4 жыл бұрын
But she is Definitely a Trophy Wife.
@rs6109
@rs6109 4 жыл бұрын
@@chico305SIGMA lol
@chico305SIGMA
@chico305SIGMA 4 жыл бұрын
@@rs6109 The First Lady in American History to have Breast Implants and Nude pictures on the Internet. Lol I'm in Love with Her. Lol
@salutations5749
@salutations5749 4 жыл бұрын
When i see older folks struggling, talking about the hope of coal returning and the necessity of it, im saddened. Idk what id do if i were there, but the writing is on the wall. A lot of folks went North from Pike County back in the day. I know someone whose Mom's Family came into Ohio 60 years ago. Dwight Yoakam has a song about it called "Readin',Writin', and Route 23". JD Vance's book "Hillbilly Elegy" speaks about it. I know many others whose Grandparents came from WV coal country also. As the manufacturing sector has died, a lot of Blue collar jobs are going away. These folks came up from KY and WV to work in supply chain industries for Auto industry. The fallout from Detroit rippled into other rust belts cities across the midwest. Coal towns are no different.
@Broken_dish
@Broken_dish 4 жыл бұрын
they need to move on coal is bad for environment we don't wanna end up like china with air quality they need to learn to adapt like many other Americans the fact there fighting so hard is sad..also that guy prob wouldn't be struggling so much if he didn't have 8 fuckin kids lol
@wwechampion
@wwechampion 4 жыл бұрын
That boy Yang was right. It's a shame he won't be leading us through this decade as President. #yanggang
@leoszilard7542
@leoszilard7542 4 жыл бұрын
2024 bby
@hectorvega621
@hectorvega621 4 жыл бұрын
@@leoszilard7542 Dammit you beat me to it.
@kyokyoniizukyo7171
@kyokyoniizukyo7171 4 жыл бұрын
DaProdigy He would have done nothing my friend, and worse off, he would likely have made the situation worse because of isolating the black vote...
@MylesHSG
@MylesHSG 4 жыл бұрын
#HumanityFirst baby. Money, weed and robots ✌️
@stevepasquarella823
@stevepasquarella823 4 жыл бұрын
Move to hhgher ground gay boys
@json809
@json809 4 жыл бұрын
Greatest economy is about to face the greatest depression
@Adrian_Nel
@Adrian_Nel 4 жыл бұрын
I have said it before. Anybody who thinks that Trump has whipped the economy into shape is the kind of person who is impressed when a neighbour parks a shiny new car in the driveway.
@silly1885
@silly1885 4 жыл бұрын
Adrian Nel Welp 5 months later Trump did nothing about COVID and we went through a recession lmao
@leonesperanza3672
@leonesperanza3672 4 жыл бұрын
@@silly1885 almost the whole world is in recession.
@dadlifeadam
@dadlifeadam 2 жыл бұрын
Wow two years later and the recession has just started! Who’s to blame now?
@chloe3670
@chloe3670 2 жыл бұрын
I come from a very long line of coal miners in West Virginia. My family has been mining coal for at least 200 years, and the downfall of the coal industry hit my family very hard. I also come from a long line of Irish and Italian immigrants, which happen to be a large demographic of coal miners in the Appalachian region. I have family members who are still currently in the coal mines, or what is left of them, but they constantly have to worry about when they are going to be laid off. My family didn’t have to worry much about money until the fall of coal mining, and now they all live under or near the poverty line. My grandfathers, great grandfathers, 2nd great grandfathers, and so on were all miners. I wholeheartedly agree that we need to advance technologically and start moving towards clean energy, but it is going to hurt this region even more than it is now once coal mining becomes completely eradicated. We are truly at a standstill. We have no money to put towards drastic technological/industrial changes because all of the money we had left when coal mining left. West Virginia, up until recently, was a democratic voting state and it’s all because we were able to keep our coal. Now, our state constantly gets ridiculed for voting strictly republican, but republicans are the only people who have showed interest or promised to keep the coal industry running! You can’t blame any of them. We are nothing without coal. Unless some miraculous funding to introduce new tech and industry into the region appears, Appalachians are going to try and keep coal for as long as possible so that our families don’t suffer further than they already are. It is so sad.
@isaacwojo3273
@isaacwojo3273 2 жыл бұрын
When people say “just introduce technology and education” it comes off as out of touch. They act like a 45 year old man with 3 kids can just snap his fingers and become a tech bro. I can kinda understand where your coming from because The same thing happened in my area with the steel industry. My county used to be a Democrat stronghold but voted for trump by double digits. While he was president he was able reopen the steel mill. It was the first good thing to happen to this area in a long time. Democrats abandoned this area and trump was able to save it.
@Jarod-vg9wq
@Jarod-vg9wq 4 жыл бұрын
6:41 dudes a DOOM fan awesome, wish the slayer could deal with the mining CEOs that leave workers behind with nothing.
@smartasskickass4260
@smartasskickass4260 4 жыл бұрын
and he has 8 kids, takes a strong man to raise that many while losing your job
@JostenDooley
@JostenDooley 4 жыл бұрын
I got black lung from this video But in all seriousness Coal is not coming back to that region and will continue to get phased out.
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like u still have some light residue on your face
@shaneckel
@shaneckel 4 жыл бұрын
The reason I was an Andrew Yang fan had nothing to do with getting a thousand dollars. It had to do with growing up in Appalachia and knowing how much his policies would have helped good hard working people in areas being hit the hardest with the changing economy.
@alfredogarbanzo2276
@alfredogarbanzo2276 4 жыл бұрын
Yo YangGang homie!!
@kcor4
@kcor4 4 жыл бұрын
"We're having a hard time. Let's take money from other people and make it harder on them." Good policy. Spread the misery.
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the leaders of West Virginia fault. For decades they have been against other industries moving to their state. They only wanted to be a coal country. Will now coal is dead and that’s all they relied on. So they will all suffer now.
@shaneckel
@shaneckel 4 жыл бұрын
@@kcor4 as a person who works in technology as a business consultant, I insure you there's enough money being made in technology advancement to help those hit the hardest. Those currently succeeding don't see this as a punishment, they see it as an opportunity to invest back into the people of their country that gave them all they had. Which in turn will profit them more, since a comfortable happy demographic are much more willing to purchase and invest.
@everettduncan7543
@everettduncan7543 4 жыл бұрын
Bernie has a more concrete plan than Yang when it comes to fixing the economy and beating back climate change: 1. Bring non coal jobs to appalachia (and non lead jobs to the lead belt) 2. Assistance for those who worked in fossil fuels 3. Modernize the electricity grid to create jobs 4. Expand high speed broadband in rural areas 5. Break up Big Ag and give farmers back their opportunities
@---nobody---
@---nobody--- 4 жыл бұрын
Those kids are very intelligent and analytical. They're actually thinking about how to change things, fix them and make them better.
@dcannek
@dcannek 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Those kids are great. The fact that their invention was a business idea that helps others really warmed my heart.
@diskographi
@diskographi 4 жыл бұрын
Do you remember ever going on a field trip to a ghost town back when you were in grade school? Back in the day when the industry left that town, so did the people.
@RegicideKo9
@RegicideKo9 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many people in the comments are just saying "just adapt!" I'll bet any amount of money you want that they wouldn't be saying the same if this was a video about black kids trapped in the ghetto. These rural white kids are in the same exact position of hopelessness except they have even less of an opportunity to get out (no 'white rural kid' scholarships). They need to adapt to the times, and these kids are obviously trying, but don't act like they just have to 'do it' like they're parents have even enough spare cash to send a kid to college. The only privilege in this world is for the rich. Poor people will always be at the bottom of the ladder of opportunity, no matter what skin color they have.
@xchopp
@xchopp 4 жыл бұрын
They have access to a 3-D printer. Their families may be poor but they are being presented with opportunities (whether 3-D printing is going to be their savior is an open question). But I agree with you: Poor people will always be at the bottom of the ladder of opportunity, no matter what skin color they have. Which of the presidential candidates do we think could change that (policies = free education and healthcare for all in the USA)? It's not a tough question.
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 жыл бұрын
Oh so now white rural folk want to go to college. I thought college was stupid and worthless. That’s what I hear from a lot of right wing propaganda and right wing politicians are always trying to defund higher education. Well well. I think they should just stay in their dying coal mines.
@kaasis85
@kaasis85 4 жыл бұрын
This is just an example of what's to come for everyone unless the current economic model is overhauled and UBI implemented. Adaption works on sensible timescales. Technology develops exponentially. In 10-20 years time it will no longer make any financial sense to become qualified in x because your job wil be at risk of becoming obsolete too soon. The secondary pressure will come from an influx of laid-off people fighting for highly-skilled jobs or in fact any jobs, which will push the wages down for everyone.
@gleenallen6386
@gleenallen6386 4 жыл бұрын
I'm black and tell the blacks in the ghetto the same. .. Immigrants come into this country with nothing, but the cloths on their back and a few bucks, but with hard work and determination and God's will, they make it in the great U.S of A.. ,
@jenniekelly571
@jenniekelly571 4 жыл бұрын
First, I want to say that change is NOT easy, for anyone. I grew up as a "white rural kid". I had a job when I was 16 at a pharmacy, not good wages. 2 years later, I became a floral designer, loved the job, shitty pay then and now. I borrowed $1k and moved to a larger city so I could get a job. A high school diploma could still get me $5.35 hr in 1986. After that I worked at a meat pckg. plant, $17K annual, then they closed the plant, and I had to move again. Then times changed, and they changed fast!! I had 2 yrs to update my skills, and I was a single Mom with NO child support. Things suck all over in every direction. I told my daughter 50K times that she had to go to college if she didn't want to live like we did. By the time she started college, I was physically disabled and couldn't help her with even a place to live. She worked as a bartender thru college, applied for grants and student loans and got both. Now, she's continuing work, and receive student loans, as she gets her Phd. Parents have to instill the moral fiber of children, and love them unconditionally, if you do, they will do the best they can. Yes, there are a few who don't, I'm not ignorant nor nieve, but most do well. I wish nothing but the best for you, your children, and your grandchildren.
@apotheosis2543
@apotheosis2543 4 жыл бұрын
Coal isn't coming back, these people are being lied to and used. I feel kinda bad, but at the same time, they need to stop holding on to the past.
@wvmann9320
@wvmann9320 4 жыл бұрын
@jacob f they dont realise there is a coal to liquid fuels plant currently being built, coal to carbon fiber plant proposed and also right now theres grants for coal to be processed for rare earth minerals, peoples minds are narrow and dont understand the logistics and needs of the modern world.
@Oumegi
@Oumegi 4 жыл бұрын
Former mining region in Europe that I come from took the same route from mining and heavy industry towards IT. It works, and I hope it will work for these folks as well. For anyone from a mining town that wants hope - you ought to have a lot of it. It will take some hard work, but it will bear fruit for you. We now have a supercomputer in town, and slowly start to challenge the country capital for IT workforce.
@klaxxor
@klaxxor 4 жыл бұрын
RUSTY JUSTICE - best name ever!
@General_Eisenhower1945
@General_Eisenhower1945 4 жыл бұрын
Big iron has aged
@jamestwerdin1189
@jamestwerdin1189 4 жыл бұрын
Those high school boys and their plan to create a business together. Well articulated. I wish them the best.
@amrizzato
@amrizzato 4 жыл бұрын
The exact same thing happened here in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia in the mid to late '90s. The CBC even interviewed us about the future and we said technology was the way. That was 21 years ago. Amazing how history repeats itself.
@gleenallen6386
@gleenallen6386 4 жыл бұрын
The difference is that, you guys prob didn't have such an arrogance sense of entitlement like this people do.
@secondaccount142
@secondaccount142 4 жыл бұрын
All the employees at Vice News are gonna get coal for Christmas next year.
@doujinflip
@doujinflip 4 жыл бұрын
If the mines are still open by then
@secondaccount142
@secondaccount142 4 жыл бұрын
@@doujinflip unless they invent coal powered sex robots I'm pretty sure it's over for coal
@Brehvon
@Brehvon 2 жыл бұрын
I love how impartial this was delivered. Well done!
@HylianKilljoy
@HylianKilljoy 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great piece. I hope STEM finds a way to help regions like this as coal continues to phase out. These regions need help and if they're ignored for much longer, there will be a much more serious issue that can have larger ramifications
@mojojojoplus2
@mojojojoplus2 4 жыл бұрын
11:14 Trump cutting programs to help Appalachia. Yup.
@montiro8999
@montiro8999 4 жыл бұрын
they will still vote for him 100%
@mojojojoplus2
@mojojojoplus2 4 жыл бұрын
@@montiro8999 It honestly depends, these are not dumb folk. If the Democratic candidate can really make the case that they will fight for programs that mean a better future for their kids and their communities, that candidate has a real chance of reaching these people. Make the case that these places can have a future beyond coal, that the community that was built by coal is worth saving for a future after it. It wouldn't hurt to also point out that Trump would like to cut those same programs.
@floridaarmyvet3613
@floridaarmyvet3613 4 жыл бұрын
@@mojojojoplus2 The democratic Congress is pushing all these changes against the programs. The president had to give things up to get the military funding. Please start reading the crap coming out of Congress the bills are loaded with pork on purpose
@mojojojoplus2
@mojojojoplus2 4 жыл бұрын
@@floridaarmyvet3613 The cuts were in the president's proposed budget, as the video states. That is independent of Congress, it is a statement of the president's priorities, which Congress may or may not follow. President Trump indicated in that budget that these programs trying to bring new skills to Appalachia are not part of his priorities.
@ik-ub3dj
@ik-ub3dj 4 жыл бұрын
mojojojoplus2 they live on Fox News man. You could show trump laughing saying that coal is dead and they’d still believe that he wants to help
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 жыл бұрын
The saddest part and it’s kinda of funny is these guys still in denial they got scammed by a Billionaire scam artist from New York. 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣
@BravoStone
@BravoStone 4 жыл бұрын
Clean coal 🤣🤣 maybe he can have them clean rocks on the ocean like on the Simpsons 🤣🤣🤣
@BUKWulfSh0t
@BUKWulfSh0t 4 жыл бұрын
That's an act of a thug
@m.w.6526
@m.w.6526 4 жыл бұрын
Not funny at all. This is a desperate region. Appalachia is deeply impoverished.
@nmk8475
@nmk8475 4 жыл бұрын
West Virginia used to be one of the most reliably Democrat states in the country, with a strong organized labor presence. It wasn't that Trump scammed them, the Democrats scammed them by abandoning them and leaving the people to die of heroin and meth in rundown towns with no opportunity except the coal mines.
@tiffbeevachou108
@tiffbeevachou108 4 жыл бұрын
@@computercrazies maybe you are 🤷. My family makes enough to provide for our family because we didn't choose jobs in dying fields and we got an education.
@kkkk-wg6je
@kkkk-wg6je 4 жыл бұрын
At least the kids get it. I bet they wish their parents would “wake up”
@jeffreychou3918
@jeffreychou3918 4 жыл бұрын
If their parents were awake, at least 6 of them wouldn't exist.
@jeffreychou3918
@jeffreychou3918 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Stovall Why would you even have 8 kids if you can't support them?
@rodniestruiken1256
@rodniestruiken1256 4 жыл бұрын
The people there are not aware of there own product . Whether there's a market for it ..or not. Especially an industry like that. Even the oil industry is not going to stay the same. There are already other options. That's the way of live. Things change you have to change whit it. But this community never have and dont want to. They want to keep things the same. That's not possible.
@seahorsemafia
@seahorsemafia 3 жыл бұрын
Reading an awesome book called When Miners March by Bill Blizzard about the bloody struggle to unionize the WV coal fields at the turn of the 20th century. One thing that is abundantly clear is since the beginning of WV's long history with coal, the Operator Companies steadily and consistently extracted WV's natural wealth away from its working citizens. Even after the miners unionized and started making better wages, that is only a FRACTION of the wealth that the companies made. Even to present day. The corporate exacs aren't taking any cuts during downsizing be sure of that. Sound familiar? My heart aches for these people. My father in law was a coal miner before he got into steel. They all came from WV.
@bigo3248
@bigo3248 4 жыл бұрын
That's life many times I thought of Quitting but my heart wouldn't buy it
@honeyv6020
@honeyv6020 4 жыл бұрын
7:26 so truthfully chilling...
@brian-beeler
@brian-beeler 4 жыл бұрын
While I'm all for teaching coal miners to code the problem is the tech sector has a huge problem with age discrimination. The median employee age at Apple and Amazon is 31, 30 at Google and 28 at Facebook. Out of the top 20 tech employers HP comes in at the highest at 39.¹ A few of these men and women might turn out to be excellent code jockeys but in the end it's doubtful with their untraditional past and higher age will ever get a chance at meaningful employment as a programmer. I don't know what the answer is but repeating the mantra "teach everyone to code" as the solution to all of our employment problems isn't it. It should be noted that finding a coding gig is getting harder with more and more colleges pushing more CS degrees than we need and offshore shops. While you might pay a programmer here in the States $40 to $60 per hour I can find a programmer in Viet Nam, Malaysia or the Philippines for about $10 per hour. A cross platform app that would cost $200k to develop in the States will cost you ~$50k in many places in Asia. Will it be just as good? No but for most companies cost trumps quality. 1. businessinsider.com/median-tech-employee-age-chart-2017-8
@Habadacus405
@Habadacus405 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Beeler God damn. You hit the nail on the head.
@Habadacus405
@Habadacus405 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Beeler I completely agree with your statement.
@JKenpachu
@JKenpachu 4 жыл бұрын
Best response I’ve seen on this video.
@mellamojeff458
@mellamojeff458 Жыл бұрын
2023 has arrived and the numbers are just getting even worse Most companies now just use cheap labor from India or china now, but there are companies that still use labor in the us for coding
@dheerajshah
@dheerajshah 4 жыл бұрын
Get Andrew Yang.
@Mico605
@Mico605 4 жыл бұрын
Listen, it sucks to lose a job, but its not the end of the world. These people who work in fossil fuel industry for generations need to get their head together. Fossil fuel was never a permanent solution for anyone and they will have to move on sooner or later.
@serpentphoenix
@serpentphoenix 4 жыл бұрын
what a stuck-up liberal mindset. No wonder they voted Trump, and will vote Trump again in 2020.
@Mico605
@Mico605 3 жыл бұрын
@@serpentphoenix Once the oil runs out, whos fault will it be? Who will they vote for then? I honestly couldn't care less who votes for who, thats not my point. My point is if they keep teaching their kids that there is nothing else to do but fossil fuel jobs then they are just digging themselves further in. Nor am I saying they should all quit their jobs now, people need to bring food on the table, I am just being realistic that in the long term for their own well being they need to look for some other source of income. Thats my only point.
@serpentphoenix
@serpentphoenix 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mico605 Oil won't run out for another 400 years. You must be living in the 1970s
@chrisvig123
@chrisvig123 4 жыл бұрын
At least the kids are smart and they understand the need and value of changing...smart kids😀
@travisbarrett7329
@travisbarrett7329 4 жыл бұрын
My mother's family is from Hazard Kentucky. Still have family living there today
@JL_Lux
@JL_Lux 4 жыл бұрын
8:08 perfect. We don’t want this city to fall - just give them another option!
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 жыл бұрын
JL Yea except they don’t want to evolve and advance themselves and learn new skills or a new trade. There’s old saying you can lead a thirsty horse to a river but can’t make it drink. Pretty much you can’t force these dumbasses to better themselves LOL
@redrobbo1896
@redrobbo1896 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Ripper you're an idiot.
@jackofclubz
@jackofclubz 4 жыл бұрын
Bernie has to potential to do well here.
@natzooo895
@natzooo895 4 жыл бұрын
nah we don't need 85 socialism lad who had heart attack
@matthewxd5063
@matthewxd5063 4 жыл бұрын
Stephan Bruno yeah the potential to destroy US with Socialism he just informs he is a socialist an he hasn’t even experienced it. And he says he wants Socialism in the US. By the way where will he find the money for free college? The answer to that which I hope you know it’s gonna be coming from our taxes... including yours!
@jimsigs2108
@jimsigs2108 4 жыл бұрын
Better dead than red
@matthewxd5063
@matthewxd5063 4 жыл бұрын
Stephan Bruno by the way he wants to spend at least 35 trillion dollars on using save energy I’m sure you heard him say that. Do you know we don’t even have 35 trillion dollars? Cause that’s how much he said it will cost. By the way let’s not for get he won’t give you that so called free health care that was only for illegal immigrants who aren’t born in the US.
@brandon9172
@brandon9172 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewxd5063 Sources? Pretty sure he never said that
@nilspetterhellvik6827
@nilspetterhellvik6827 4 жыл бұрын
When the industrial revolution came. 70% of farmers in Europe lost their jobs. Sad but future is allwas hard
@sisenor4091
@sisenor4091 4 жыл бұрын
Why? Because he lied to them. Actually, he’s a great politician.
@silly1885
@silly1885 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao he didn’t handle covid well. In fact he put us in a recession, he is horrible for blue collar workers.
@hawkproductions3853
@hawkproductions3853 4 жыл бұрын
@@silly1885 your ignorance of facts is showing
@isisarefucbois7627
@isisarefucbois7627 4 жыл бұрын
We should never have let politics get into coal look what’s happened to it.
@johncronin5311
@johncronin5311 2 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what it is , what about gov chem clouds , china , russia , india burning coal ?
@EA-js1me
@EA-js1me 3 жыл бұрын
Legalize weed and make the state government grow it. Jobs, tourists, less opioids, additional tax income, less poverty!
@kaansisman6948
@kaansisman6948 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly government would never do it and if they did, knowing how they spend money it would never get to help people.
@dajon661
@dajon661 4 жыл бұрын
This will be detrimental to Santa’s supply chain!
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 4 жыл бұрын
If you're in your 20s and 30s you shouldn't be in Coal, move on.
@fanstream
@fanstream 4 жыл бұрын
Isobel, Your docu-segments are brilliant: informative, entertaining and visceral - bravo!
@topside2
@topside2 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a South Park episode “HEY DARYL. HEY DARYL. Truck driving and coal mining are not exactly jobs of the future. Now add add torque wrench and blinds to my F^CKING shopping list.” - Randy Marsh No joke, I pray these people find work ASAP. I know what it feels like to need a job and not have one.
@jaybudzygaming
@jaybudzygaming 4 жыл бұрын
This is why we needed Yang in office
@Habadacus405
@Habadacus405 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Ramzy unfortunately, A lot of people just saw him as a huge socialist who wanted to just give money to people who didn’t deserve it. 😔 It was obvious he wasn’t going to win when they gave him less and less time at the debates. Sad.
@m.w.6526
@m.w.6526 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro free money would have solved everything hahahah
@thor1511
@thor1511 4 жыл бұрын
Uneducated hicks would never vote for an Asian
@joel1228
@joel1228 4 жыл бұрын
@Sorrious Sad He was proposing giving a $1000 to every american...his policy never mentioned your tax money. What he actually proposed was to instate a new type of sales tax on things you purchase - please educate yourself if you're going to support someone for POTUS, or else YOU'RE the one one whom looks "stupid". LOL
@MrEtherShot
@MrEtherShot 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Ramzy he’s working for cnn now. Sorry $ellout
@slaylahdorsey4393
@slaylahdorsey4393 4 жыл бұрын
Gil Scott heron was taken for granted
@j.palenzuela3786
@j.palenzuela3786 4 жыл бұрын
vice is on fire with the new content. Keep it coming
@GoldenNorway1
@GoldenNorway1 4 жыл бұрын
Just going to put it out there: Coal is outdated.... However, mining is not. Minerals might be the opposite in fact, as seen here in Norway. Here mining is kinda booming, both on a small and large scale. The world population grows and the tech keeps getting more and more complex. Mining is the answer to all of this. The world needs minerals more than ever. Mining is gambling. It has always been... But we need it.
@ashlirabid9614
@ashlirabid9614 2 жыл бұрын
It's not gambling. Minerals run out, it's a certainty.
@DevanLee18
@DevanLee18 4 жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again -- institute a UBI to help offset the impact of technology replacing the human element in our economy.
@Alpha-Ultra
@Alpha-Ultra 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be happy with Bernie or yang
@majinreclaimer4457
@majinreclaimer4457 4 жыл бұрын
Coal miners should vote Sanders so they can transition to jobs in the clean energy sector. Trump doesn’t believe in the future of clean energy and he’s still doing nothing for these poor people.
@animeandstuff5377
@animeandstuff5377 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Mindolovich poor yes dum also yes voting for trump was always a pipe dream
@thepope2412
@thepope2412 4 жыл бұрын
You mean clean energy as in non reliable renewables? The real clean energy is methane and uranium.
@Worldofourown2024
@Worldofourown2024 4 жыл бұрын
We needed to elect Sanders 4 years ago. The Green New Deal shouldn't be steeped in myth of being only a liberal radical left ideology for it could benefit all of us allowing better living, more economic opportunities, and preserve our environment while leading the entire world with a new America as a new model for the 21st century. We've been lied to nonstop and duped terribly so just so the financial elitists can take more and more.
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 жыл бұрын
Trump has got coal moving more u just dont hear about it . Not as good as the market should be but better
@thepope2412
@thepope2412 4 жыл бұрын
@@Worldofourown2024 You want more economic opportunities? You want a capitalist president that deregulates and lowers taxes.
@Abravesfan1988
@Abravesfan1988 4 жыл бұрын
I work as an Engineer aboard a Tow boat that pushes barges of coal up and down the Ohio River and the business has definitely took a major blow the past 10+ years and it’s just a matter of time before it dies out almost completely... just hope it’s not until after I retire.
@hughfergusson9544
@hughfergusson9544 4 жыл бұрын
Then move!!!
@trippingtonproductionsco.7641
@trippingtonproductionsco.7641 4 жыл бұрын
Should have voted Andrew Yang he was going to help us with automation
@Worldofourown2024
@Worldofourown2024 4 жыл бұрын
He's a smart guy with some really good ideas, but a poor public speaker. He had to drop out for he didn't appeal to the mainstream voters. The Yang Gang is a thang of the past. Do you thank the Yang Gang are feeling the bern?
@saltymonke3682
@saltymonke3682 4 жыл бұрын
@@Worldofourown2024 no
@Worldofourown2024
@Worldofourown2024 4 жыл бұрын
@@saltymonke3682 So which direction would most of the Yang Gang gone? Who do they mostly support now?
@saltymonke3682
@saltymonke3682 4 жыл бұрын
@@Worldofourown2024 Biden
@Worldofourown2024
@Worldofourown2024 4 жыл бұрын
@@saltymonke3682 Why do they support Biden over Sanders? Thanks in advance.
@0ut1and3r
@0ut1and3r 4 жыл бұрын
why would you want this job! i appreciate the hard work they do and have done but i wouldnt want this for anybody!
@reedw.5477
@reedw.5477 4 жыл бұрын
Because they don't live in a major city with plenty of job opportunity
@Ryan-wx8of
@Ryan-wx8of 4 жыл бұрын
Because food costs money.
@0ut1and3r
@0ut1and3r 4 жыл бұрын
@A'chik chamdamberangna maths it WAS essential. it's very dirty and unhealthy for the miners. not to mention that mining in general causes environmental degradation. it's obsolete and that's a good thing. these people have to adapt and find a way to move forward. it's going to be hard to let go of their identity and livelihoods but they have to if they want to survive. the world is not going to revert for anybody.
@JL_Lux
@JL_Lux 4 жыл бұрын
Because of jobs... why are we still examining this?
@crackhead8670
@crackhead8670 4 жыл бұрын
Well they keep losing jobs to tech.
@MakerInMotion
@MakerInMotion 4 жыл бұрын
@@crackhead8670 It will be tech's turn to lose jobs before long.
@cammaynard8462
@cammaynard8462 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why me and my family left eastern Kentucky my dad got laid off and now we reside in northern you don’t understand how it’s changed my family so much...
@-umph
@-umph 2 жыл бұрын
They had literally 50 years of warning. America is the least proactive developed country.
@nhoj4539
@nhoj4539 4 жыл бұрын
The miners were con, by the con-man
@MrRadioRiot
@MrRadioRiot 4 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the American dream isn’t being taken away its just being updated. Industry shifts are very quick but stubborn patriotism is what keeps people in a bubble of denial in this current climate, the truth is in reality.
@BAGELMENSK
@BAGELMENSK 4 жыл бұрын
What do towns built around coal mines do? Perish? Dissolve? Unless another industry swoops in to replace *COAL,* these people will continue to suffer.
@RobertLealAguila
@RobertLealAguila 4 жыл бұрын
For me the problem is simple " The enteried production of must thing we need is in Asia " they need bring back factories to USA Coal has pass...
@fquint6468
@fquint6468 4 жыл бұрын
Several reasons give or take any combination for different people * Lack of education * Racism (for some, not all especially in the form of scapegoating minorities, claiming they are taking jobs) *And reluctance to embracing change( in the form of new industries, new lessons, new tech etc.) These people don’t understand that coal is not as lucrative as it once was, and they don’t want to change. They will continue to suffer if they want to embrace progress. I’m glad they are offering the kids the chance to learn new tech. Higher education is necessary for the future.
@ijulesy
@ijulesy 4 жыл бұрын
Swear i've seen this before on vice, is this a reupload?
@17vmrivas
@17vmrivas 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Yang is right, can't stress this enough.
@SharpElement
@SharpElement 4 жыл бұрын
He’s so right he dropped out of running
@17vmrivas
@17vmrivas 4 жыл бұрын
@@SharpElement yes, he's right and yes he did drop out.
@erikm5817
@erikm5817 4 жыл бұрын
Sharp Element its too bad people like you don’t understand how Yang is for the evolution of our economy, things change and Yang has the vision and understanding to move it forward.
@Pocko213
@Pocko213 4 жыл бұрын
Coal mining communities in UK: Tories took the jobs Coal mining communities US: Democrats took the jobs
@silly1885
@silly1885 4 жыл бұрын
Democrats didn’t take anything technological advancement did. Coal isn’t profitable and no ones going to invest in a dying industry.
@MrStaybrown
@MrStaybrown 4 жыл бұрын
I work in a doomed coal mine, I know its dead. The company has even said they're unsure how long they will operate and when they will do layoffs. Then a Trump Supporter said...but trump said he was going to save us! It was heartbreaking to think they believed trump. These miners believed him, and still believe trump is going hail mary save the coal industry.
@ABC-zt9oi
@ABC-zt9oi 4 жыл бұрын
Why not
@nicholashernandez4367
@nicholashernandez4367 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice seeing them interview the kids. I always see videos like these only focusing on bringing back coal and nothing about how to move on from coal. I hope they're able to create new jobs in appalachia that bring back prosperity to the region.
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