The Donetsk People's Republic

[@shaned3362]

you know they are pro Russian when they wear track pants with armor.

[@Kriegter]

Gopnik military

[@malkius656]

lol.

[@Ingen.17]

Stfu

[@roskcity]

@@Ingen.17 Stfu

[@desubokudawanano]

@@Ingen.17 #ихтамнет

[@VICENews]

Filmed over six weeks, this documentary follows the chaotic birth of the DPR as it tries to forge a path to independence and closer ties to Russia. Check out more coverage of the conflict in Ukraine: news.vice.com/topic/ukraine

[@stu66er]

this was amazing work, well done!

[@cosmokramer833]

One of the best documentaries you guys made! Bravo, 9.5/10.

[@gingerjones43]

DPR and the Russians are NAZI's and mafia thugs. EU and Ukraine should cut them off and any one that supports them.

[@cosmokramer833]

gingerjones43 None of them are Nazis. The Pro-Russia forces are just bullshitting, and the Pro-Ukraine forces are misusing footage of Donetsk rebels mocking Nazis.

[@valerie1]

gingerjones43 Telegraph UK- Ukraine crisis: the neo-nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists -Graphic Warning
www.discussionist.com/101445398

[@MCARCstudios]

The events happening now have a much deeper history and tension the more you learn about it. Good documentary here.

[@whydoievenbothertoputthish2199]

Ive been following this series as it came out as no major western media covered it properly my heart breaks seeing it again so many lives wasted for nothing...

[@ner0p]

@@cannedstarfish6194 Exactly. What those western countries are doing, pumping more weapons into Ukraine, is the opposite of what would help bring negotiations back and peace closer. Unless NATO actually gets involved, the Donbass is independent from Ukraine so I don't see why they still do it unless to fuel the war like they did in Syria - almost exact same, but instead of jihads they use they use the armed forces of Ukraine, which for the most part are not Nazi. It is true that Russia is the aggressor, but context always matters, *always* Ukraine is simply a pawn in this chess game of west *vs* east.

[@truelife1060]

It should have gone 8 years ago when this war started but the same main media that manipulates also hides information

[@quantumfairing2216]

@@cannedstarfish6194 The problem with that statement is that Ukraine had a government that didn't care about their people's life or rights, that ended up with the revolution in 2014. Then Russia invaded and stole Ukrainian soil. The land that was promised to them when they gave up all their nuclear weapons in the agreement that Russia would never attack their country. The world should 100% continue to send weapons to Ukraine so they can protect their own sovereignty and fight back the dictatorship of Russia and let the Ukrainians get back their own land.

[@scott4766]

It's ok but it's biased towards Ukraine and not for DPR.

[@user-uz2ij7hh6p]

22:57 You bring in a bunch of thieves and thugs into power and act surprised when they act like the wild animals they told you they were.

[@_ian69]

Rip your channel bro 😭

[@italiancat7456]

GIVE ME THE FLAG GIVE ME THE FLAG *throws flag* *flag falls* BLYAT

[@NaughtyBear1337]

@Oliver Ayädiya with an Motorcycle Helmet, that Looks like a stahlhelm... ahja

[@1forest120]

@@NaughtyBear1337 M16 helmet = bad person

[@NaughtyBear1337]

@@1forest120 the helmet looks like an Mixture out of an M35 and M42 Helmet

[@Johntb100]

Donbass is Ukraine.

[@deeremies2266]

@@Johntb100 yes

[@thedriftr1990]

19:17 - pulls out gun 19:27 - realises there’s no magazine 19:30 - realises he’s lost the magazine

[@rogermoore27]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rogermoore27]

Worst action hero ever

[@dev-pj9vi]

All of it to settle a fucking road rage dispute

[@emcee1337]

they all seem stupid af

[@crystalamity381]

Obviously a bunch of thugs working for Putin, Referendum was rigged obviously😩 feel sorry for the poor Ukrainians who literally had no voice to stop this, they were attacking them in the street! This was the start of Putins invasion of Ukraine.

[@ryangoslingfan22]

This is like a gmod server I swear

[@HeCommittedWarCrimes]

DonbassMod server

[@werwolf_mk9734]

Best comment

[@jojogaming1013]

Yeah, if you like slavjank.

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

"What fools we are to live as if war is a computer game for our children or just an interesting little Channel 4 news item." Tony Benn, 1998

[@PashkenS.]

Whole eastern europe is like a gmod server

[@fackery8438]

"Politics is a prostitute" greatest quote ever

[@reanimationeas342]

In a way, political candidates do whore themselves out for public approval

[@TheDennys21]

My grandfather used to say that too.

[@DaHuntsman1]

You know, if someone made a movie exactly like this, i would watch it. Its very interesting having a look to the inner situation, the struggle between the different factions, and the aftermath.

[@Brian-Enel]

You should watch Bloody Sunday (2002)

[@hewster9874]

MAD FOXES (1981)

[@pisvis5746]

The aftermatch has began

[@KoleMaravilla]

Donbass (2018)

[@freemindrebel]

@@pisvis5746 More like an unexpected twist

[@ramirezjuan0715]

The guy who shot this deserves an oscar. I feel like I'm there. Great reporting too.. I'll miss Vice.

[@newlevelgamer5879]

this separatists have been betrayed by putin and russia has brought destruction to this people as Ukraine is winning this war and gaining ground everyday, russia just gave Ukraine the power to get rid of Separatism and reclaim the territories that belong to Ukraine, this people were deceived by russia

[@Assfucker0001]

Vice ain't gone tho. They just uploaded yesterday.

[@ramirezjuan0715]

@@Assfucker0001 they announced bankruptcy a few months back but they are still around

[@Assfucker0001]

@@ramirezjuan0715 fr? Damn that's crazy didn't know that

[@2ndcomingofFritz]

@@Assfucker0001their reporting has significantly reduced in quality though

[@Gazer873]

It’s weird to watch this in 2024.

[@petersent123]

They remind me of MAGA morons in 2020

[@thembastoep733]

True, but like the will of the people

[@Gazer873]

@@thembastoep733 was it the majority of ALL the people who lived there by 2014/15? And what about now in 2024? Is it the will of the majority now? How did the population change - who stayed, who left, who came new? We just hear rumors. Barely any journalists allowed there. So how can one really know what the will of „the people“ is now? Weird however when a county of your country decides to rather be its own country and your country is supposed to accept this just like that. Which country would? Remember what happened in Spain? Catalania? That was considered high treason.

[@thembastoep733]

@@Gazer873 its likely the majority otherwise there would have been a counter insurgency to the original insurgency, the war will end at some point and the truth will reveal itself slowly, its how these things are

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

Yup.. They got their independence, but became Russia war playground. Poor schmucks

[@stefk9883]

This documentary provides such a good context to the current events in Ukraine. Well done Vice

[@SoulBrotherB]

right, this one is different too "8 year before"Donbas documentary, highly recommend

[@reanimationeas342]

It is horrifying that terrorism and war have taken hold of east Ukraine

[@newlevelgamer5879]

You have been betrayed by putin and russia has brought destruction to your people has Ukraine is winning this war

[@sad-asfk]

yeah its really sickening how russia had so many people already in ukraine before to overthrow them.. and brainwash them all

[@0BLACKESTFUN0]

one sided tho .

[@seany532]

Brilliant you couldnt make this shite up,, the head of security driving around in a stolen car trying to shoot someone for flipping him the bird, quality

[@haemse]

And then taking about how God saved his life because he saw his good doings ... Priceless delusion

[@stonem0013]

​@@haemseclassic russian mindset

[@ngonzales3781]

​@@stonem0013 yea god loves when you make broad negative statements about large groups of other human beings...

[@grzyb11]

there is no way this wasn’t an FSB operation where they just sent the most clinically insane mfs in russia to donbas

[@atanasapostolov2731]

this is the russian world.

[@eduarddv00]

mistake by vice. vice typed the lyrics of the russian federation anthem, instead of the ussr anthem which was sung

[@kaaosaf]

you're right...you can clearly hear the line, 'along the great path which great Lenin did lead'. This whole report is sketchy as fuck though anyway.

[@asiox8398]

to mount the video is propaganda when you watch the video and remember all the spots where cut these pieces

[@Manowar_]

bruh the people litteraly have the orthodox double headed eagle with a saint in the flag and sing the ussr anthem

[@terriblehumanbeing8117]

@@Manowar_ They're just following Comrade Jesus's teachings

[@Manowar_]

@@terriblehumanbeing8117 based

[@bernz7776]

2022 watching this with the Ukraine - Russia war. My heart is bleeding. May Justice go to the people who really deserve it.

[@Nanosk3]

Same here. Its hard to find the truth with a biased news.

[@dontcomply5008]

@@Nanosk3 what news do you watch?

[@Nanosk3]

@@dontcomply5008 I watch a little bit of everything. You can hear mainstream everywhere but I’ll try to find independent news to hear another side.

[@Nanosk3]

@Nova Burebista if RT and Sputnik was the opposite of CNN or MSNBC than the truth could possibly be somewhere in the middle.

[@dontcomply5008]

@@Nanosk3 same here

[@DirtyBird28]

2023 here. I can't help but wonder how many featured in this documentary are still alive.

[@DirtyBird28]

@@vene4ka It's virtually impossible it's zero....The Donboss "volunteer" battalions were shredded pretty early in the war. Russians used them for mine clearance/machine gun finders before Wagoner brought in the penal battalions. Every fighting age male in this video is most certainly dead/wounded by now.

[@Kokokoruzas]

​@@DirtyBird28 As a resident of the republic, I am I want to say that you are half right. Many people died, but some survived. Also, Russia almost did not participate in 2014, only arms supplies Благодарю за внимание, если прочитали

[@user-mv4kz6lw8u]

​@@vene4ka by that you also mean people who were held by this terrorists and were shown in the video, so pick your words

[@tovarish_serjant]

Quite a lot. Andrei Ryabinin, nicknamed "Lenin", went through the whole war and remained alive, recently I would like to ask him some personal questions. Roma from the anti-corruption department went to Crimea, Maxim did not join the militia, many protesters stayed at home with their families.

[@tovarish_serjant]

@@vene4ka he losses of the L/DPR servicemen were, but were significantly exceeded by the Ukrainian side, the losses of the AFU and the losses of the L/DPR amounted to ~ 1.5/1 due to the offensive of Ukraine and the protection of the L/DPR. Ukraine greatly underestimated its losses, and, according to the General Staff, about 3,000 Ukrainian servicemen and 20,000 L/DPR soldiers were killed, and according to the UN - from 4,500 to 5,500 people. I also personally know many people who have been at the front for 10 years.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Lenin heard the word "revolution" and woke up from his long nap outside the Kremlin Also they weren't saying Donetsk at 1:32, they're saying DONBAS

[@reenreeniest5263]

Ay it’s supreme leader

[@sandwitchi7]

29:14 It's just like something straight out of The Office.

[@destubae3271]

I'm thinking we need a Donetsk People's Republic sitcom

[@uros4925]

LMAO

[@ungbonhbot3662]

Imagine if they have talking heads like the office

[@navaryn2938]

Watched this video more than once and the fellas that can't spell "referendum" nor get the flag right crack me up every time

[@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist]

@@bruno_kunda For such an incompetent group of people, they have been pretty dman successful in overthrowing the Ukrainian government in the region.

[@MrArtaque]

@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist because Ukrainians are no better

[@joedenathan4775]

@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist *Ahem* Russia

[@halcyonXT]

@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist its obviously faked wtf. You guys believe this is real?

[@roskcity]

@@halcyonXT How do you know it's fake? Smartass.

[@baldwintheanchorite]

Historically important piece of work. Thank you to the reporter.

[@download333]

"Are you afraid of something?" How about the masked guards and the government employee who just threatened bodily injury over stickers? Is that the sort of thing someone should be worried about?

[@hamsterman32]

Maybe if the punk didn't belong to USA funded right sector then he would've been treated like your average misdemeanor case.

[@download333]

***** I don't care what someone is suspected of doing. If you want to pretend you live in a free society, they are innocent until proven guilty. Also, in most free societies, having and promoting a political view that is opposed by the current government is not considered a crime. Don't get me wrong, the US (where I live) fails at this in a lot of ways, but that video was the sort of thing that cops here would at least try to hide, not use it as an example of properly conducted law-enforcement. Actually, that's not entirely true. You should see some of the insane SWAT videos that are used as examples of well-executed raids. And yes, the US meddles in the affairs of other countries way too much, but that doesn't justify treating some kid like a violent criminal because he happens to agree with a group you don't like.

[@HTFDUDEHTF]

***** They didn't get beaten up because they were filming you idiot, how dense are you even? Holy shit.

[@vladimirzlatanovic1947]

@@download333 Since you are American, btw I am not Ukrainian nor Russian and I am not affected by this, do you think there is any difference between Russian and American interference, be it by army deployment, overthrowing governments, funding some political parties, etc. I mean, Russian influence is presented as bad, and American and EU as good, but for me ruling a country from the outside is bad no matter who is pulling the strings, so i would like to hear what an American thinks.

[@FATHOLLYWOODB123]

@@hamsterman32 Ukraine wants NATO and the EU, funny how they wanted Russia until Russia invaded Crimea

[@brainbytes3484]

So it's ethno-nationalism vs ethno-nationalism? Wonderful.

[@jcarter3238]

BrainBytes It's a reaction people have when being violently targeted for being loyal to their previous government that was also violently ousted by thugs. And technically, the land was Russian but was given in exchange for several things. But the Ukraine has squelched on their deal so I'd say they're taking it easy on the Ukraine when contractually the land should go back to Russia since the contract is no longer being honored or recognized. Don't you think? Either way, it's between them and no other country should get involved financially or militarily.

[@brainbytes3484]

I express solidarity to the the DPR, but in the end, they are being used by Putin right now. The communists that made up the republic are losing power in the face of Russia's neoliberalism. The days of the USSR are (sadly) gone. That said, I recognize Crimea as free from Ukraine, and if the the rest of eastern ukraine wishes, they should be allowed as well. I'm only concerned this is going to devolve into what my post said: two ethno nationalist sides foghting it out, one side supported by western powers, and the other by Putin.

[@jcarter3238]

BrainBytes Hmmm. Well I'm not sad the USSR is not in existence, nor are any of my in-laws currently living in Kiev and Russia. And I'm not sure what you mean by being used by Putin. Would it be bad geopolitically for Putin if the EU grabbed Ukraine? Of course. But it would be equally bad for the people in Ukraine. And culturally speaking it would be the death of any nuclear family values. I guess I'm not seeing how they're being used or exploited when it's mutually beneficial.

[@brainbytes3484]

But did you not just say that other countries should stay out of this both militarily and financially? Regarding the USSR, it was the other superpower preventing the US from becoming the sole superpower. It prevented what the US wants right now, military and financial hegemony of american interests around the world. While the USSR has a terrible past regarding human rights violations, I am in the camp it could have been saved, albeit some restructuring (perhaps more of a confederacy). We're seeing this in NATO's expansion eastward past germany, which Bush H.W and NATO promised Gorbachev wouldn't happen in exchange for a united germany. With the collapse of the USSR, that deal disappeared. The Ukrainian conflict largely stems from NATOs expansion into Georgia and Ukraine, and the pressure it is putting on Russia through this. In regards to the exploitation by Putin? Like I said, I admire the DPR for standing up against Ukraine's semi-fascist government. But, many of these separatists are former soviet citizens or communists who want to return to the system they had before. Now that the DPR is more tied with Russia, that wing of revolutionaries and leftists no longer have influence, and instead are part of Putin's plans of political posturing and economic neoliberalism. That's mainly why I don't see it as mutually beneficial, but instead as a lopsided deal for the DPR.

[@jcarter3238]

BrainBytes Well the end goal IS to become one with Russia. They simply had to break free first from the Ukraine. Regarding America, it's the NWO (and yes NATO is a big part of that) that Bush was so fond of, rearing its ugly head only now the status quo calls it globalism. The EU was the giant first leap for globalism. The democrats and a good chunk of republicans are huge supporters of this. There is a lot of money to be made in globalism for a circle at the top, the next tier does it in the name of utopia, perfect world, no boundaries, no race, no gender, no class etc. So they work the propaganda and push it through the system in the name of equality and love. Keep both parents working and children raised by the system because it's about 'gender equality'. The rest at the bottom suffer greatly with no voice. This is what ruffles Putin's feathers. Putin is doing his best to model his country, as is China, after the Nationalist and sovereign America circa 1940. But globalism is a poison that seeps into the youth and this strikes fear in nationalist sovereign nations. They see the coming threat. This is why the recent reactions to and policies on homosexuality and pornography have come up in Russia. Russia and China have both stated recently that the US was great once but has completely fallen. There is very little respect left. It's really funny when you think about it. Trade the word communism for globalism and it's like the US is becoming what Russia was depicted as, and Russia is in the shoes the US was wearing long ago. We now hold the poison dismantling values and governments with corruption. I did mean what I said about staying out of it. But this does involve Russia at its core. I'm just an average Joe talking, I'm not Secretary of State. America should stay out of this. But our opinions don't even matter so who the fuck are we anyway.

[@fakyu9346]

The whole video is Slav meme

[@bogdanafilonich33]

It is the real war, your comment is not relatable.

[@hwoulsetx]

meme supposed to be funny

[@TimberwolfMountaineer]

This comment thread represents humanity and power of disinformation perfectly. 1% thinks ongoing war is a tragedy and should be taken seriously, while the rest is comfortable with dismissing it just like yet another meme.

[@Biełaruski_nacyst]

Whole those LPR'a and DPR's adventures are funny jokes.

[@marjankalsek7579]

​@@Biełaruski_nacystand you're joke..idiot

[@joestephen3756]

Fantastic documentary - summed up by the ten seconds after 4:30 - the head of the anti-corruption department stamping documents then immediately accepting a bribe on camera

[@alexeig127]

You understood it wrong, it wasn't a bribe! They assigned a sum of money to buy a pistolet on black market. After the acception of deal the anti-corruption guy demands to take a look on the purchase. It can be seen at 4:55

[@joefry1947]

so the anti corruption head buying a firearm on the black market is fine then? lmao@@alexeig127

[@nathanstein8572]

18:02-18:40 is my favorite part. It's even funnier if you know Russian.

[@MrPeterPan]

Hahahah ikr😂

[@grzyb11]

like fucking tarkov scavs, or any video game bandits

[@randomusernamemygod]

33:48 Probably the best quote of the entire conflict. Now a legacy of hatred, anger and violence will be left behind and inherited for the little kids of Ukraine, Russia, EU and Malaysia.

[@bengchiatseah3908]

@Gabe Itch was wondering about that too... wonder if it has anything to do with the downing of their commercial jet?

[@HelluvaStolasTheOwl]

@@bengchiatseah3908 Because Our Citizens Are Killed In The Conflict Bruh

[@user-lz5wf]

@Eminem MH17 plane, a Malaysian civilian aircraft was downed by the DPR

[@revolter7094]

He was talking about the USSR not the joke of a "country" Ukraine is.

[@sillytu6639]

@@HelluvaStolasTheOwl Your fault

[@HappyDaClown187]

If this doesn't open your eyes to how fragile this world really is. At any minute we could be back in world war and for next to nothing.

[@tylerchristensen5067]

comment aged well

[@htatesil4192]

Thanks to Americans

[@kylechetram915]

@@htatesil4192 thanks to russian aggression, always trying to upend the world order.

[@apokkalyps6]

​@@htatesil4192americans dont even know where ukraine is on a map, the terrorist country right next to ukraine and their fascist Z ombies are a disgrace to humanity and the cause of every war and land grab in the 21st century in this region

[@333maddoxtj333]

7:26 - are they seriously calling that old couple fascists while an entire mob is harassing them for having different beliefs? Who's the fascist? 10:23 - it's crazy how people can be so hypocrite to accuse Ukraine of being a fascist regime while there's stuff like this where any kind of political opposition, is destroyed and punished with violence. Quite literally like in Nazi germany or Fascist Italy

[@AK-cp6br]

Keep crying, those territories are Russian.

[@333maddoxtj333]

@@AK-cp6br - bruh I'm not crying, to be fair it seems like you're the one crying, I raised two perfectly reasonable points, to wich you can't or don't want to respond. Showing how close minded, biased and brainwashed you are. You can't even think with your own head. Use your eyes, at 7:26 a mob of people is throwing objects to an old couple while someone else shoves them, only because they have a different opinion. This is not a civil society, this is pure fascism, the complete lack of freedom of speech. The oppression through violence. At 10:23 they're straight up threatening him to break his legs. I honestly feel lucky I'm not as dumb as you lol

[@Danielle-gs4uf]

@@AK-cp6brI often wonder if y’all realize how the world views you guys and the many comments similar to yours. You look like a maniac, a homicidal lunatic who, surprisingly, is also retarted. “Those territories are Russias forever”! What? Not one territory is fully occupied by Russia, and soon 2 will be fully occupied by Ukraine. I bet you’ve never even stepped foot on the territory you speak of. Now just imagine that your town was one of these territories and china held referendums with half the town and then declared it Chinese territory forever. Every day I see multiple comments like yours and it’s shocking. I’d really love for this to happen to you, so you can tell your story on KZbin letting everyone know what’s going on, and hundreds of Chinese people in china blowing up your comments, ‘too bad! It’s chinas territory now-CRY MORE!!’

[@tuyanaonnet5251]

Yep

[@breezycheese3677]

@@AK-cp6brNot anymore they’re not. 😂

[@ribeiroz78]

29:37 "politics is a prostitute. It goes with whoever pays more" I think we've found the main motivation of the Donetsk separatists...

[@spacecommie7447]

Russia has therefore successfully bribed 4 million people in the Donbass? Props to them

[@permadoc]

Great work! Very informative as well as entertaining - I couldn't stop laughing at 8:20 where they started painting their own flag the wrong way and couldn't spell "referendum". And, the episode where Roma tries to shoot out of his car window and finds out that he has forgotten his ammo - priceless!

[@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю]

I hope everyone who created this abscess on the body of my country is now in hell, which is quite likely with the Russian policy of destroying those involved.

[@DialecticalMaterialismRocks]

Long live the DPR

[@orcastudio4765]

Donetsk:"Donetsk People's Republic" Ukrainian Hyrvnia -50000

[@Eikenhorst]

That was just hilarious! True nationalist willing to die for a flag they don't know how it looks like even. Weird, to say the least

[@ssach7]

@@DialecticalMaterialismRocks DPR is Putin's invention

[@jimmycricket7385]

Almost comedic but with an underlying charge of hysteria that could turn murderous at any time.

[@longLivejay1]

Aged well

[@mayor3367]

Ah, what an accurate prediction.

[@MrPeterPan]

Lmao

[@TimberwolfMountaineer]

Some context for those who don't understand the language or the situation. This ideologist 3:09 and this masked man 1:15 are both native Russians. They have pure Russian accent without any Eastern Ukrainian influence, unlike everyone else in this video. Even if according to published data the majority of people in Donbass in 2014 wrere either eager Russian supporters or just simply sympathetic towards Russia, this video still doesn't represent the real ratio between regular Ukrainians and separatists, because most of Ukrainians were scared of this 7:25 or 10:24 or 13:49 or worse if they made their stance publicly. The reason why pro-russian population was more active and better organized is because the operation was planned by FSB way ahead of these events. Posters, speakers, slogans, money and weapons were availbale to separatists immediately, while Donbass Ukrainians just weren't ready and didn't have someone who'd organize them in support of United Ukraine. Whatever your political views and ethnic sympaties are remember: a minority of people desiring to live as a part of another country is not a reason to infringe sovereignity. Otherwise 99% of the world's borders would have to be rewritten and hundreds of millions would perish. Many Tatars, Kalmyks, Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush, Karelians, Kuril Islanders, Buryats and Yakuts in Russia also want independence or reunification with historical motherlands, is it a valid reason to secede?

[@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR]

Why would Donetsk have any Ukrainian influence if Donetsk never spoken Ukrainian? Donetsk was part of Don Army region in Tsarist Russia.

[@CarterMc3]

Why would Donetsk have Ukrainian influence? Because it's literally in Ukraine ​@@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR

[@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR]

@@CarterMc3 Donetsk has never been Ukraine it belonged historically do oblast voiska Donskogo during prerevolution Russia. Donetsk was part of Russia loner than is Kiev part of Ukraine.

[@torlekjpec5708]

It took a minority fighting to make USA a sovereign country from UK. By your logic that and probably most revolutions are in thr wrong. Which is a consistent standard you have if the case.

[@TimberwolfMountaineer]

@@torlekjpec5708 Good example. Just as USA in 1770's Ukraine is fighting against its former opressor. You win. And if you think this was ever about the people of Donbass - let's just end it here, i don't have time to entertain nonsense.

[@lam0bot]

Best part is 'security officer/offical' or whoever that thug is flailing his gun out of the window of his car, threatening some random dude on the road. Best way to explain what this DNR is in just 30 seconds. "Look, it is their head of security, do you have any more questions?"

Yep. I feel sad for those people.

[@letsimage]

I think he described all ideology of putin: "rules exist for breaking them".

[@DMlTREl]

​@@letsimage Sounds more like NATO

[@letsimage]

do your own research about concrete cases @@DMlTREl

[@miguelmatos9508]

Seems like Budanov

[@SirSpiderPig]

“They are less than human.” “ They must die” who are they starting to sound like?

[@stvk99]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWq2gImXp7R5gM0

[@waffenanime]

like ukrains

[@mazamatov]

need not worry anymore, the West has abandoned Ukraine.

[@robbienl8176]

Like zelensky 😅

[@IndieGinge]

Like people in any conflict where their opponents commit atrocities? Americans after 9/11 or all the time, Yemeni's after the forced famine, Russians after Nazi aggression, Nazi's after the Soviet counterattack? It's actually a very normal emotional response to seeing evidence that people you love or identify with are killed, especially if it's in a horrific way.

[@ribeiroz78]

24:29 "there was no independent verification off the polls and no independent monitors" Russia, what a beautiful democracy

[@saccorhytus]

@@Hugh-Glass fucking Nazi

[@I_dont_read_responses]

​@@Hugh-Glass There's that nazi talk again that led to this conflict....

[@vanceofthetube]

Yes. Atleast they didn't try to assassinate anyone while giving a speech after they failed to jail him like in the USA.😂

[@pilky_boooi]

​@@vanceofthetube Navalny would like to have a word with you

[@ItzRedge]

Song 12:18 please I've been seaching for like an hour now

[@vanceofthetube]

Check the other comments bruh. Something about soldiers farewell song...

[@ItzRedge]

@vanceofthetube I did and I couldn't find a version with the same lyrics

[@isaacturnercreativeideas]

Last bit was very touching with the dad and his son.

[@triforcelink]

@@bololollek9245 Sad demise of the Ukrainian population

[@DeaXi69]

If i've learned anything as a latvian then it's that arguing with old russian females is as useful as watching the paint dry. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience especially if they outnumber you. There's no reasoning with them.

[@mrditkovich5817]

How is it going in Latvia now ? Your government must be really repressing Russians

[@RK-cj4oc]

​@@mrditkovich5817Colonial russians should not be in Latvia to begin with.

[@C-Farsene_5]

@@mrditkovich5817 considering how the Latvian identity survived centuries of Russian repression I'd say that their own repression is very tame

[@mrditkovich5817]

@@C-Farsene_5If they lived centuries of repression they wouldn't be here to begin with. And even if Latvia got repressed, then it's not acceptable to begin with, and we cannot accept that a bullied person becomes the bully.

[@C-Farsene_5]

@@mrditkovich5817 yeah..Latvia and the baltic states were held by Tsarist Russia and later the Soviet Union for a couple hundred years in total, some ethnic groups just hold out longer than others for example the Tatars which have been held by Russians since Ivan the Terrible's Kazan Wars. I get that Latvia shouldn't be so racist to a group who won't always be supportive of Putin's actions, it is a sad situation and hopefully (once Russia stops eyeing the baltics so hungrily) Latvia too would stop being so repressive of the Russians

[@tphillipoff]

At 2:09 there's a mistake- Donetsk isn't Ukraine's second largest city, it is its fifth largest city

[@tierka221]

Kiev > Kharkiv > Dnipropetrovsk > Odesa > Donetsk

[@yourfavukrainian]

Very late but they said "East Ukraine's Second Largest City"

[@tphillipoff]

@@yourfavukrainian I stand corrected

[@BreezeBoo]

They said EAST UKRAINE second biggest city

[@LekanMakanju]

How does it feel to reply a comment after 7 years?

[@CoreLumpenous]

Jesus... 2014, the year terror begun for the Donetsk and Luhansk. The amount of men and women, elderly and young, rich and poor, pro-ukrainian and pro-russian that was tortured and/or killed by the so-called 'separatists' is enormous. Marodeurs, robberies, kidnappings were on the rise ever since Ukraine lost control over the cities. Did you see those girls on the 6:40? It`s really rare to meet a pro-ukrainian person over there who is willing to disclose her real opinion. Many people are afraid of speaking out against the russian-controlled terrorist groups, thinking they`d lose their lives and of their relatives (and they wouldn`t be wrong for assuming this). Look up Volodymyr Rybak from Horlivka and his death. Even Strelkov-Girkin confessed: "Naturally, Rybak, as a person who actively opposed the "militias", was an enemy in my eyes... his death is to some extent also under my responsibility". He was abducted, tortured to death and his body thrown away into Torets river. For what? For attempt of raising Ukrainian flag. Not the crime one should be put to such gruesome death for. Or Stepan Chubenko - a 16-y.o. football player, kidnapped from a train to Donetsk from Kyiv by terrorist "DPR" militias and executed after torture. His crime? Blue-and-yellow ribbon on the backpack. His killers fled to russia back in the 2017 and russia denied extradition requests. Especially now, as we see how treatment of occupied territories by Russian State is the same if not worse than by the separatists on this video. Bucha, Izyum with their mass graves, torturing rooms in Kherson prison, POW`s execution, deserter`s executions in the russian army... Life in the so-called "People`s Republics" is hell on a level of ISIS-controlled regions of Syria in the 2010`s or life under Boko-Haram in Nigeria.

[@_ian69]

I got chills while watching this. I felt so bad for those girls. I wonder how many people in this video are still alive?

[@CoreLumpenous]

@@_ian69 I sincerely hope they evacuated from the area, since they could be recognized by the russians. There were a lot of buses and routs to emigrate to Ukrainian-controlled territory. One of my Ukrainian friends is from Horlivka, and he managed to flee in 2023 from the occupied territory. Hope they`ve done the same and are in safety

[@tarasyanish7854]

29:26 Screw you guys, I'm going home!

[@Muggawumps]

Is the DPR just a country-wide reality-show?

[@lihwak9181]

Muggawumps Im from LPR and yes, kind of

[@defossus173]

​@@lihwak9181 Are you alive?

[@АлексейДонской-п6ц]

I'm native russian speaker. The translation is sometimes inaccurate. For example when Roma is talking to one of his men at 4:38 the translation is as if Roma is informed that they captured an enemy fighter and got a ransom for him, being unclear what is left to be settled here and why he's asking his dude to show him some gun. They use slang so even I didn't get what he's saying at first. In reality the dude is telling Roma they somehow wrongly acquired a free gun but now are asked to pay for it yet the finance people are saying this can be only settled through Roma, with the gun being later shown.

[@ast.george3565]

Of course vice couldn't help themselves but to spread some Ukrainian propaganda! may they go to hell

[@Oddball_E8]

"Russia gives us the chance for a bright future, the EU doesn't, that's for sure. We don't want war, or young guys dying for nothing". Well, that aged like milk...

[@supermanhun]

I wouldn't say the die for nothing seeing as Ukraine is currently getting steamrolled. Freedom isn't free

[@venkats0iitk]

It did? Are you sure, or... is you comment aging like milk?

[@imnotryuu6391]

was looking for a comment like this

[@alexpieters2345]

These youngsters cheering for Russia, are now meat sacks thrown against their own country on the frontline. Lots of young Donetsk pro Russian Ukrainians are used as front line fodder.

[@margaretcaine4219]

Only about 8 months ago were Ukrainian forces pushed far enough away from Donetsk city that they could no longer shell it. They have at last a brighter future.

[@vavan100]

"Your body is your collection, want to keep your collection"

[@whatsgood8426]

Gouky Best quote from the video, apart from all the cuss words used by men lol

[@wmr0225]

What's Good Personally, I liked "wheres my beating stick?" and "fuck his mouth"

[@whatsgood8426]

wmr0225 those are quite good too

[@dopeloverdamily]

then proceeds to say that all people have its opinions

[@AIRFORCEFREAK1]

If these people truly believed what they were doing was the best for their people and country they wouldn't wear masks and ask cameras to go away.

[@haemse]

And do referendums without external supervision ...

[@abdelhakwinston6200]

lmao

[@abdelhakwinston6200]

u dont hide ur face from ur ppl u hide it from ur enemy

[@saccorhytus]

@@abdelhakwinston6200 Yeah exactly

[@sir7819]

Советую посмотреть на основных участников майдана. Спасибо

[@darayavahush1]

Dzięki Patryk, że pokazujesz prawdę. Piszę po polsku, żeby więcej Polaków dowiedziało się, co naprawdę się wyprawia i jak długo to trwa. Pozdrawiam z Polski.

[@darayavahush1]

To miał być komentarz pod filmem Patricka Lancastera, ale niech już zostanie.

[@carlosarturofloresclaros4392]

I do not speak polish, but you are right, it has been silenced by western media

[@joe18425]

Hi poland, I've always been a fan !!

[@sfalhilsajd]

I wounder how Polish people feel after Ukrainian Anti-Air missile have killed 2 Polish citizens. Or how do you feel about Ukrainian goverment naming one of their streets after Roman Shukhevych one of the perpetrator of Volhynia massacre (rzeź wołyńska). And yes, I'm Russian and I know that this are provocative questions. I hope that they wont be censored by KZbin.

[@DonDon45-i5h]

f@ck your country

[@juuso2248]

I hope those two student girls are safe. My heart is with them

[@orcho141]

a bit of sanity in a sea of lunacy

[@juuso2248]

@@tuntematon_hiiri Ukrainan tukeminen on fasismia? Vitun pelle

[@superiorshotgun4348]

@@orcho141quite the opposite

[@nicolais.4307]

The horror of the situation is that pro-Ukrainian people moved to live in Mariupol and the suburbs of Kyiv. Where hell was in 2022.

[@RololoTheOneAndOnly]

what a clown you are@@superiorshotgun4348

[@foxius5847]

LOL Lenin is like screw you guys i'm going home xD

[@thisisntsergio1352]

29:14

[@MrShadyFigure]

That guy at 12:00 is gonna be really disappointed when people get beaten in Russia for expressing their opinions and are guilty until proven more guilty.

[@donizettilorenzo]

They still think Russia is a socialist state.....yes, it's "socialist" in the fascist meaning of the word.

[@Subscribers-gj6oy]

RIP he lost his favorite beating stick, I feel bad for him.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

So sad he can’t beat people with it. So sad. :(

[@Nesphore1]

It's sad that kids are kind and reasonable than some adults are full of emotions.

[@kleefgeest]

These kids have no clue what they are talking about.

[@danieldoneski9666]

"Politics is like a prostitute, it goes with whoever pays more." Only half smart thing ive heard from these separtists.

[@heidyguzman6623]

z

[@danieldoneski9666]

@@heidyguzman6623 z is your swastika

[@reanimationeas342]

That quote is 100% true

[@badtuber1654]

Russian Seperastists or Nazis Ukranian NAtionalists take your pick. End of the day they all have Russian families. they are all RU.

[@Randomguy12990]

They're funny 😂 I love them

[@Ida-xe8pg]

8:08 to 9:01 is *GOLDEN*

[@comradekitty2009]

29:46 they are subtitling the wrong lyrics it is actually the lyrics to the USSR anthem

[@jelly.212]

Vice propaganda

[@CoiboiXD]

​@@jelly.212its easy to mistake the two, the Russian anthem is literally the same as the Soviet one but with different lyrics

[@marekdubinak]

This is such a bullsh*t. I live in Slovakia and we have a lot of Hungarian people living on the south of the border. It is like they would decide to separate and claim the historical border ( when Slovakia was occupied by Hungarian Tatars). They would worship Orban, Hungary would provide military support and the civil war would began. Why they just did not move to Hungary (Russia). I understand that the corruption in Ukraine was on high level, and they have families in these places, but in Slovakia it is same. People of Donetsk republic, you are part of Ukraine if you like it or not. But people are fucked up in modern history.

[@babayaga6321]

Tell that to people of Yugoslavia . They were able to split in 5 different countries no problem, so why these people can not. Besides that is historically Russian land and people living on that land made they choice to be one with their motherland.

[@marekdubinak]

@@babayaga6321 yeah I understand the point, but I dont understand these people. In the Stalin ages he killed millions of Ukrainians because of starvation .. really why people there wanted to be Russian. Or they dont know their history?

[@babayaga6321]

@@marekdubinak Those people are ethnic Russians living on their ancestral land . That belong to Russian empire ever since it took that land in battle from asiatic nomads during Catherine the great times. What Ukraine got to do with it?! Stalin did not starve Ukrainians specifically . Famine caused death of people all across USSR. That unfortunately happens during famine through out world history. Everyone else in former Soviet Union understands that, only Ukrainians are making a stink about it.

[@drakker2116]

@@marekdubinakStop with the Holodomor bullshit, there was no intentional starvation of Ukrainians in USSR, there was hunger in many regions at that time due to natural reasons.

[@user-nv5ve9ld7t]

Tell that to Kosovo

[@jacekneumann6491]

USSR also claimed to "just fight with fascism"...

[@Unbrutal_Rawr]

While doing what instead?

[@jacekneumann6491]

Sobakus Well, they of course helped with winning the WW2, but they used anti-fascism card to excuse all their crimes against humanity like sending democratic leaders to prisons or camps. That's the problem of totalitarian systems - it's always someone else to blame for wrongdoings of the government. They always have to have an enemy.

[@silviyatsvetanova4613]

Sobakus Like taking over countries like mine - Bulgaria. Forcing us to pay contributions, and be thankful for putting us on our knees for the last 70+ years. Acting worse than the fascists themselves.

[@Unbrutal_Rawr]

Jacek Neumann Fair point. Silviya Tsvetanova Could you elaborate on the points you've just made? I'm not aware of any forced payments, any knee-putting or, indeed, anything worse than what the fascists did happening in Bulgaria during the Soviet rule.

[@tank_3487]

Those peoples lived much better during USSR. Much more were killed by democracy in Ukraine, than commies.

[@fahqkitty]

The way homie lost his magazine sums up the entire organization of Donetsk and Luhansk lmao

[@redvlandro]

Those last words from the dad telling them to his son is painful to hear Esas últimas palabras del padre a su hijo es doloroso

[@triforcelink]

@@bololollek9245 I interpreted it as pre 2014, not necessarily Soviet Union.

[@DonDon45-i5h]

@@triforcelink he CLEARLY said "great country thats is no more", interpret my @ss

[@triforcelink]

@@DonDon45-i5h Ukraine was united until 2014. Not sure what you’re on about.

[@DonDon45-i5h]

@@triforcelink he said "big" country. ukraine aint that big. and both of us know what he was talking about. smarta$$

[@triforcelink]

@@DonDon45-i5h They’re talking in front of a burning Ukrainian flag. Ukraine was the biggest country in Europe. Dumba$$ Where was your anti west sentiment before 2014?

[@justinemot2282]

When i was working in Kyiv one of my collegues was from Donetsk. He used to work as an important manager in LifeCell, a Ukrainian mobile operator, and was proposed the chair of dpr's ministry of communication there, which he immediately rejected, packed his things into a car, took his wife and daughter and left for good. Bcz ppl with brains like him would never join a gang of bandits. After a couple of years he managed to sell his apartment in Donetsk and managed to convince his in-laws to move to Kyiv as well. The best people of Donetsk left Donetsk and supported Ukraine. The clueless, drunk lohi stayed to play-pretend a republic. Then they were pushed by the armed lohi, which, in their turn, started fighting with each other for the resources, turning a once economically prominent city into a hood with guns and violence and no justice. The true russkiy mir

[@АнатолийШпак-э2н]

Лучше умерять за Россию, чем за фашисткую Окраину

[@realmen199]

Много ты знаешь я смотрю. Много людей с Донбасса приехало в мой город и они говорили что украинская армия приходила в их города и просто мародёрствовала, их обстреливали а вы что делали в это время?

[@mjrooney710]

Right and Ukraine isn't corrupt ??? Ask Joe Biden.

[@weremus8639]

@realmen199 So if Donetsk so good, why they left it for Russia?

[@laser3148]

@@weremus8639 wdym left it for russia? dpr joined russia and who were living there are still there

[@AnarchyDom]

Vice News keeps getting better and better. So many powerful moments in this mini-doc. The whole Russian Roulette series was possibly the best conflict reporting I've ever seen - I'm not sure whether that's my inexperience showing or if conflict journalists would agree with me though.

[@Zenovarse]

3:38 Santa claus is coming to town

[@GalacticExplorer_Edits83]

Lmao😂

[@MrOlnev]

мда... люди в масках слушают криминальный рэп, кидают камни в стариков и говорят о "независимости". печально все это.

[@Chulavoi]

Буквально усраина

[@Randomguy12990]

It's indeed sad

[@YoboiLy]

Revisiting the video hits different nowadays. As a person who is from Donetsk it hits quite hard. I still support my people but it's ridiculous since my last comment 8 months ago.

[@olbincm]

How's life going on there?

[@YoboiLy]

@@olbincm pretty mixed. Just hoping the war ends.

[@olbincm]

@@YoboiLy Same. Good luck man.

[@YoboiLy]

@@olbincm much appriciated. Good luck to you aswell

[@doomslayer4276]

​@@YoboiLygoodluck comrade , hoping for a quick victory

[@derNerdAlert]

10:08 what freedom looks like to the pro-russians here

[@TrinidadJamesWoods]

3:35 damn! Santa's in the mix, wtf?!?

[@onezerotwo]

I wonder if even 50% of the people in this video are still alive.

[@The_Ghost_of_Kiev]

How are they talking now?What has Russia brought for these idiots?Poverty,unemployment, mobilisation, crime,wars.They got what they deserved.

[@melhiorlector2680]

А почему они должны быть мертвы?

[@MORE_BEANS_PLZ]

​@@melhiorlector2680 they're terrorists so it's better dead

[@luckysnuf7509]

@@melhiorlector2680Ukie artillery

[@akallstar5]

@@melhiorlector2680Because they’re cannon fodder paid by the Russia government as mine-sweepers for their eventual invasion. Pathetic

[@thekiltedkamper2855]

Notice those who support Ukraine are all young and the ones who don't are older.... Who has seen more since the fall of the USSR.

[@kriptoinvestorreal]

USSR - famine

[@ttemmowwkk]

notice that there were a lot af protests for ukraine in donetsk and luhansk in 2014, but russia did their best to stop those protests

[@reedschrichte800]

Seen what?

[@nemetskiylager]

​@@ttemmowwkk You are absolutely not competent. There was no Russian regular army in Donbass back in 2014.

[@НикитаПетров-б1р4н]

@@nemetskiylager well, now we know, that it isn't true. Russian goverment plan the whole coup and sucseeded.

[@nick_pappagiorgio]

I like the Soviet-style interrogation by the pro-Russia commissar who takes the kids' stickers, goes through their cell phones and threatens to beat them with batons all while his brave henchmen hide behind masks.

[@malicboba]

Отличие от украинского в том , что украинский не угрожает, а бьёт, а здесь просто серьёзная беседа. Знаете, а это очень не маленькая разница.

[@pykakpa6a84]

​@@malicbobaгарне порівняння, але воно тільки на словах. А докази, або відео є тільки про допити сепарів. Так само як зараз, російські війська ріжуть та гвалтуют і навіть не соромляться це знімати та оприлюднювати.

[@rmdomainer9042]

@@malicboba Shush vatnik. We have seen what you people do to others.

[@I_dont_read_responses]

​@@pykakpa6a84 and the ukrainians aren't doing the same thing...? Rhetorical question.

[@ГрицькоГудевітер]

@@malicboba ублюдок ты, какими делами завалены Муждународные суды по правам человека???? делами по их нарушению из твоей московии вонючей, из оккупированного Крыма, отовсюду, где присутствует путлер и его убийцы. К тюрьмам Украины имеют доступ все международные организации по правам человека, пленные московии живут как на курорте, а что делают изверги-кацапье с украинскими военопленными????? кто тебе в мире верит теперь? никарагуа и сев корея? так ты у этих братьев своих и покупай компьютеры и телефоны. но ты хитрожопый пользуешся благами западной цивилиации, а расейским дерьмом мажешь головы другим.

[@SomethingtoappeaseGoogle-1024]

33:27 Is that supposed to be Stalin?

[@russiaexitcrimea2203]

Luhansk is Ukraine.

[@herushiii]

@@russiaexitcrimea2203 wrong

[@herushiii]

Free Donbass

[@CottageHound]

Donetsk used to be called Stalin

[@herushiii]

@@CottageHound lol

[@sgiovanny39j]

Why do the people running the so called "Donetsk People's Republic" remind me of Trailer Park Boys

[@thermonuclearpotato556]

truly a relic of an era. ive been a kid when crimea has been annexed and I still remember wathcing bout the crimea's annexation on TV, when I've been on 6th grade. so much time has passed..

[@donizettilorenzo]

10 years is nothing :|

[@yeungscs]

29:26 Eric Cartman "Screw you guys, I'm going home!"

[@red_anfield]

ahaha! I enjoy your joke )))

[@andrewgreen1940]

No such place, Russian occupied Ukraine.

[@alex-E7WHU]

DPR and LPR are recognised independent places now.👍

[@Борисстепанов-р1д]

5:11 farewell of slavankia starts playing for some reason.

[@jakubgrimm575]

Can we get an update video on these people Vice News?

[@borisalatalo7750]

The war has probably killed or displaced most of them

[@colek2470]

“We don’t want war or young guys dying for nothing” welp you got that now

[@cannedstarfish6194]

They've been bombed for 8 years. This is not the beginning of the war, it is the end of it.

[@shululu7572]

Exactly

[@F8isRIPPIN]

Are you retarded? The war has been ongoing since 2014.

[@isunlloaoll]

Oh my god the girl at 7:05 is so beautiful. I feel bad she lives in such a chaotic place. . .

[@Akella225]

Жаль, что на дамбасе так мало нормальных людей. А Девчёнки молодцы на 6:50 !!!

[@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з]

А расскажи что ты думаешь спустя 7 лет?

[@Akella225]

@@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з ничего во мнении не поменялось. Украина - это Европа, россия - фашистский оккупант.

[@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з]

@@Akella225 А из какого ты города? Просто я сейчас в Польше, до этого объехала 10 региональных центров на западе и север+центр, юго-восток специально оставила на закуску, у меня есть некоторые мысли по поводу того Европа это или нет

[@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з]

@@Akella225 И сколько тебе лет что ты в 10 утра онлайн

[@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з]

@@Akella225 А почему фашистский? Нет, у меня сегодня правда настроение поговорить, соскучилась по этому трэшу

[@marw9541]

6:08 "We don't want war, or young guys dying for nothing." That's extremely tragic seeing now. I hope that young man wasn't drafted, even if I don't necessarily agree with his political goals

[@qw9bp]

He deserves to answer in full for what he supported.

[@user-vr2vf9ty2j]

29:47 That's the Soviet anthem, and you're giving a translation of the Russian one.

[@navaryn2938]

No, that is the russian one. They have the exact same melody but the words that i hear are from the russian version

[@user-vr2vf9ty2j]

@@navaryn2938 Listen at 30:07 and you can clearly hear the words Ленин великий(great Lenin).

[@kafiamadeus7351]

28:40 +99999 social credit

[@alexprivalov5873]

23:33 - This is just the beginning

[@striderwhiston9897]

I feel bad for the people of Donetsk, the Russians secretly invaded, acted like separatists and have just made the region horrible.

[@imeprezime8297]

Russia liberated her people from neonazi ukraine scum.

[@imtiazakand3174]

😂😂😂.donbass populated by russians but soviet map gave it to ukrain.same case with criemia.

[@syberian438]

​@@imtiazakand3174then why the anti-soviet meetings and rebellion for independent ukraine started from donetsk miners?)

[@mikev9]

​@@imtiazakand317484% of the population in Donetsk voted to be part of an independent Ukraine in 1991 tho. Imagine having a Russian majority who wants to be part of Ukraine in your case

[@Eldagaitaofficial]

​@@mikev9the population there is almost 50/50

[@server1ok]

This video is pure gold. Pure gold I say

[@htatesil4192]

Corrupt Ukraine

[@server1ok]

@@htatesil4192 How can Ukraine be a corrupt country if it's not a country. ( as Putin says ) 🥲

[@dAMMDb]

6:45 Ukraine/EU: Hot girls Novorossiya: Old soviet nostalgic aggressive thugs

[@vanceofthetube]

Hot girls? They are kids. And you notice the old women and if they were so oppressed like western media says, why is it that they want to unite with Russia? Maybe you people know better than the people who lived under Russian rule.

[@norger]

i wouldn't want to live with only fans girls honestly

[@fil183ippo3]

Now that the worsth thing that could ever happen is happened seeing this made me understand that this war and this whole situation are more complicate than a normal person would think

[@chiefchuck3897]

Yes, but it didn’t have to be. They changed the TV antennas in all the separatist occupied houses to Russian outlets, which spewed lies to them about “Ukrainian terrorist attacks”, like the odessa fire which was specifically mentioned.

[@apokkalyps6]

How complicated can it be. Fascists invaded Dombass and Crimea in 2014 in disguise. Brought unseen devastation and misery, terrorized the population and raised innocent kids to be meat in a future war. Now those kids are serving the purpouse in a full scale genocide, guided by the war criminal himself and his mafia gang.

[@RolePlay-vy6dt]

Однако Евромайдан вам понравился... Двойные стандарты. Обе стороны бились за независимость, одни бились за независимость от России, другие боролись за независимость от Европы.

[@cesverc]

@@RolePlay-vy6dtthe difference is that Europe didn’t send soldiers and weapons to euromaidan protesters. Russia has sent soldiers, volunteers and weapons including freaking tanks since 2014.

[@makhabzaranamane6869]

@@cesverc Sorry but these guys at this point didn't look Russian funded. Barely have weapons and the results of the referendum were damning. Why is the West so interested in keeping these people in Ukraine's hands when they clearly want no parts of it?

[@MrMountain707]

Back when Vice did journalism.

[@BuckFiden33]

How do you loose a magazine 💀💀💀

[@rsquare32]

7:27 Now that's just really mean. Ukraine is screwed.

[@Monscent]

+Raghuvansh Ramesh Yeah..I dont know which side is more right but scenes like that really are telling arent they.

[@rkn3zdesign]

not the whole Ukraine because in 2019 they have become far stronger and russia says they fear their new weapons. capable of killing over 50 soldiers at once with technology similar US has been developing. they even have remote machine guns that are all over russian border with heavily armored vehicles and trucks with rockets. Russia wount use all their force because that will raize a question with NATO. and russia dosent want another world war. wich mainstream media never talks about that russia picks up the pieces left by NATO. also they only took over one town

[@Kriegter]

Just gopnik culture

[@Zuripanto100]

23:25 when you go play at your friends house but his parents start screaming at him because he is always bringing friends over to play but never doing stuff for school

[@ribeiroz78]

22:47 "you steal, mug and ask for bribes". Russia, what a beautiful culture

[@sealtheultimate469]

Read the context

[@saucyinnit8799]

Ukraine, what a beautiful culture.* 😊

[@pykakpa6a84]

​@@saucyinnit8799придумай щось своє, чи мізків не вистачає?

[@pykakpa6a84]

​@@sealtheultimate469контекст, як будувати країну "по понятиям"?

[@saucyinnit8799]

@@pykakpa6a84 speak an actual language

[@EddiTaru]

Sad that 7 years later, this is still going on.

[@breezycheese3677]

@Hi_Im_KalashGet NATO’s tip out your mouth man. Russia just wants to expand their borders so they’re making excuses like calling Ukrainians facists.

[@TheDethBringer666]

So basically, Russians kicked out the local rebels and moved in the little green men.

[@TheDethBringer666]

***** Truly revolutionary. What next, deporting Ukranians to North Korean labor camps in some dictator oppression exchange program?

[@sergeishamanski8531]

Actually 'the little green men' were in Crimea. And they had the right to be there 'cause of treaty between Ukraine and Russia that was about naval bases. There in Donetsk locals made everything by themselves hoping Russsia will send them troops. But that would be illegal. So there is no russian army in Donetsk. Only volunteers from Russia, France, Afganistan and some other countries. Why everyone blames Putin for the shit made by Obama in Ukraine? That's Obama who said americans are exceptional nation and only USA has the right to decide what is right and what is wrong in the world. Look there guys! There's your agressor who sent Blackwater into Ukraine in winter. Of course these guys are private military. But they are taking part in every conflict US started in the world. Speaking of which, would you remind me how many conflicts were started by Russia that are not near russian border-line?

[@peterjj1991]

Sergei Shamanski Have you seen the people who showed up at 31:56 ? Because they were Russian soldiers. BTW, the treaty didn't include the seizure of Ukrainian government buildings in Crimea so they were acting criminally as well, just look at VICE videos from that time.

[@Bishop38f8]

Sergei Shamanski The treaty covers naval bases in Sevastopol, not government buildings and Ukranian military bases in Crimea. Talking about treaties, Russia signed a treaty as well in 1994 Budapest Memorandums - "1.The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine; 2.The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations;" And isn't it kind of strange how all the supposed local officials are all russians? Also - ura.ru/content/chel/01-10-2014/articles/1036263086.html - 90% of the squad are Russians, locals don't want to fight, they fled or are hiding. This is no civil war, never was. Had Russia not intervened, Ukraine could have had a new government already. And if there was some concern in East Ukraine the elected local officials could have negotiated with the central government. I am going to pose this question to you. If an armed group of rebels sprung inside of Russia, claimed a bit of land and called it their sovereign country, A - Do you think Russia would use armed forces to reclaim their land? B - Do you think they would be right to do so? Now me personally, the answer to both is yes.

[@sergeishamanski8531]

Petr Jaroch Have you seen troopers in crimean operation? Now compare them to this people.

[@marwaneakef7435]

2022 ladies and gents this is what triggered it .the gravity of the situation back then was really tense and never resolved now it finally exploded ... nothing will be the same for the countries involved ...

[@haemse]

It also openedy eyes - yes there where people supporting independence, but those "leaders" there ideology and the clear strong russion influence showed me clearly how bad people will be off with the mindset of those "leaders" Creazy people all over the place.

[@ironknee6879]

Watching this in hindsight (2023) is surreal. So many lessons can be learned from Ukraine’s struggle. Clearly, division was the goal, convincing citizens they had to choose between Russia or the EU, as well as past (Stalin, USSR, Pensioners) or future (6:48). It also goes to show, just because a group of people in society are making the most noise, it doesn’t mean they’re the majority. Donetsk had a population of 900k at this time, and the region/oblast was home to 4 million, yet there were never more than 1k people at these “important” events. More than likely, it was because they knew to expect harassment for the differing views, and/or this 7:26 , or worse. Hurling large stones at someone’s back and calling them a fascist because they don’t want to be ruled by a dictator that controls all aspects of society and opposes all opposition is the absolute peak of irony. Just, wow. Thanks for the outstanding reporting, these episodes leave no doubt that Ukraine must be made whole again, and given the ability to decide upon their own future, independently.

[@aliceinwonderland7594]

you're obviously disinformed .... none were more brutal than the US abetted Ukraine 2014 unelected Govt towards its own people. As for DPR it had an overwhelming majority to proclaim its independence.

[@Breadlord87]

@@aliceinwonderland7594 shut up kremlin sucker

[@thomasvincent3187]

@@aliceinwonderland7594 Sure clown

[@Danielle-gs4uf]

@@aliceinwonderland7594 fucking exhausting you lot, boring and pathetic. I’m constantly amazed that so many just say nonsense with zero embarrassment. But what can be expected by horde of shameless zombies.

[@ThatKingZombie02Minecraft]

At 7:08 I hope that two girls are everthing okay for now in Donbas. I feel so bad for them.

[@ricardocorrea8325]

I feel bad by the thousands of russian speakers that were massacred by the ukrainian army since 2014

[@sww3679]

@@ricardocorrea8325 10% of kyiv population are russian speakers, including zelensky. vast majority of azov members are russian speakers. btw, have you watched this video, don't you find those donetsk separatists thuggish and act like gang members?

[@ricardocorrea8325]

@@sww3679 Not at all, I follow the subject since 2014 and remember well when neonazis, supported and armed by the Kiev regime burned alive dozens of communists in Odessa and outlawed almost every left-wing and anti-fascist organization in the country. To avoid being etnically cleansed by taking up arms is not gang active, is anti-fascist resistance by working people

[@sww3679]

@@ricardocorrea8325 so you don't find those "Donetsk People's Republic" members thuggish? OK, something is wrong in your brain which taints your objectivity then. wait, you are a brazilian! That's why your country has such a high murder rate, you are used to those gangsterish behaviours. why there are so many leftards in brazil? I have come across with so many on the internet.

[@stvk99]

​@@sww3679 all Ukrainians speak Russian, they just pretend they don't because they hate everything Russian. what was the last time you heard Zelensky speak Russian? all his press is in Ukrainian. it's really funny that he actually did not speak Ukrainian well before presidency, he had to learn it. that alone can tell you that Ukraine does not want Russian speaking president.

[@albertoftasmania]

What's with this influx of people who suddenly think they're experts on Russia-Ukraine relations and the history of the two countries? NPC's, the lot of you.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Compared to what, your god-knowledge of these countries?

[@albertoftasmania]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 Compared to nothing. I don't claim to be an expert, but most people in the west couldn't point to Ukraine on a map if they were asked to.

[@reedschrichte800]

How do you know? You sound as ignorant as anyone.

[@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus]

The guy called Lenin says they are not fighting for communism :D

[@Geshiko-GuP]

It's been years and Russia has made it's move over a year ago, If only ukraine just ALLOWED the Pro-Russian regions to leave, Then this wouldn't be happening

[@joseolivarra7791]

Lol are you from america would you allow texas to leave or florida or california 😂😂😂😂😂 thats just not an ok let them leave deal goofy if texas is its own country now china and russia will try to influence to destabilize america grow a brain

[@gerri577]

@@joseolivarra7791 the UN charter guarantees a nation the right to self determinationa and autonomy. Ukraine, who is a UN member nation must abide by this charter. After being bombed and shelled by their own government, one can't blame those ppl for desiring to be free of that gov. Texas hasn't been bombed and shelled by it's gov. You're comparing apples to oranges.

[@joseolivarra7791]

@@gerri577 lol russian propoganda at its finest you forget about the civil war a early form of artillery its still artillery they still seiged bombed and encircled cities guess where texas and virginia etc are still part of america because there no gray area america and ukraine and anyine else with a brain will not allow autonomy of those regions the british russians americans germans have all done it allowing an autonomous region to destabilize your country is a big deal common sense that if theres allowed to be any kind of territorial change in europe by force it will destablize all of europe because russia will keep going as they already proven to have tried and take kyiv they are settling for less coping in bahkmut

[@dimashevchenkoua]

there were no "pro russian" regions idiot, yes maybe some regions wanted closer ties with russia than others, but none wanted to join russia. in Donetsk there were large pro-Maidan rallies, but they were violently dispersed by russian mercenaries.