Vince would have swung for bret and fallen over tearing his quads in the process
@franklinyi69344 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@tonyblack76704 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@MAGA_Trump_Warrior4 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍Good one🤣🤣🤣
@redacted10933 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you're not confusing Vince for Kevin Nash here?
@MAGA_Trump_Warrior3 жыл бұрын
@@redacted1093 Either one would have probably had it happen
@VERDICTInsanity4 жыл бұрын
Bret should’ve sneezed in front of Vince, that would have really pissed him off
@diesel101raw4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@slanderman32964 жыл бұрын
Omfg
@jeyDsixx184 жыл бұрын
Bwahahaha imagine being that much of a control freak that u hate sneezing cuz u got no control over it
@TheTrainFan94 жыл бұрын
@Rich Smith It's been stated by a few people that one of Vince's weird quirks is that he hates sneezing. Apparently he's cursed himself whenever he's had to sneeze. Paul Heyman has also been on record that Vince refuses to grow a beard even though he can, because "he won't let it win." You're a weird dude, Vinny Mac.
@sonicthehedgehog53604 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@HerecomestheNixs4 жыл бұрын
Vince taking out Bret In a fight is like Hornswoggle taking out Undertaker.
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
Hey you never know. for all we know both men with a property been him and up each other and trying to choke each other out and then someone would have broke it up
@12012channel4 жыл бұрын
@Lujack Shaw Have Hornswoggle and Taker at a WrestleMania in an I Quit match before the WrestleMania 30 one . Have the finish be Hornswoggle handcuffing Taker to the ropes. Going under the ring to pull out a bag or sack. Get into the ring and reveal that the bag is full of cucumbers, from whole cucumbers to sliced and diced cucumbers. Just all kinds of cucumbers. Start pouring the cucumbers over Taker until Taker is forced to utter the words "I QUIT!" "I QUIT!" Thus ending the streak.
@nathatkd4 жыл бұрын
Who knows, vince is always in great shape too, and should know some boxing and olimpic wrestling moves.
@stiperaddaraddaraddamiocic97084 жыл бұрын
U seen the body on that man at 75?
@Gunners_Mate_Guns3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Vince is totally ripped, but at no point in his life has he ever been in the sort of condition that Hitman was at that time. If Vince hadn't given Hitman a free shot and had instead tried going to brawling, Hitman would have unscrewed his head and replaced it facing backward.
@d1.KT14 жыл бұрын
There are 3 things guaranteed in life: 1) Death 2) Taxes 3) A brilliant Wrestling Bios video
@apark024 жыл бұрын
You know who didn't have a match at Survivor Series? The Undertaker. Bret would have dropped the title to Undertaker and problem would have been solved.
@christopherroberts73063 жыл бұрын
They had already sold the tickets & Pay-Per-View based on Bret vs. Shawn, they had to have that match. This all began with Bret refusing to drop the belt to Shawn all of sudden.
@yanksrgreat3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherroberts7306 every time shawn had to lose to bret, he faked an injury to get out of it so why would bret wanna lose the title to shawn on his last night. they could have added undertaker as a triple threat and bret doesn't lose. either taker loses to shawn or undertaker wins and loses to shawn later
@elijahechicagobearsboyd57343 жыл бұрын
@@christopherroberts7306 Don't vilify brett...
@dominiquejones38052 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why Vince didn't get the belt off Bret b4
@Kabra20122 жыл бұрын
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 He was stating a verified fact. Conversation shouldn't be one-sided just because your guy is getting criticized
@ashleyandre55674 жыл бұрын
A side eye, as a young fan, was Vince saying that he could not afford to honour Bret's contract, but then mere months later, he found money down the back of the sofa, to pay Mike Tyson for his role in the build up to WM14
@dericharris78354 жыл бұрын
Right
@kurtbrowning97654 жыл бұрын
How much did they pay Tyson? I can’t remember exactly but I recall it was a lot.
@10YRWWEPPV4 жыл бұрын
So Vince mcmahon basically lied to Bret to get iron Mike Tyson for WrestleMania 14, makes sense.
@ryanrusso29544 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the money he found was Brets salary
@ashleyandre55674 жыл бұрын
@@kurtbrowning9765 It's been speculated that it was between $3 million and $6 million, but in interviews, Tyson has said that all he can remember regarding the figure, is that all of it went on paying legal bills he had at the time.
@FrankieTech4 жыл бұрын
I’m officially addicted to your channel bro! From one creator to another, thank you. This is exactly the type of wrestling content I’ve been looking for. Cheers!
@kenrickkahn3 жыл бұрын
He is! Dude put so much into his videos..
@russellscott46263 жыл бұрын
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@russellscott46263 жыл бұрын
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@JohnJohnson-fr5cx3 жыл бұрын
From one creator to another 🙄
@merces47letifer43 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJohnson-fr5cx hey, you tell me that filming yourself unboxing new phones isn't TALENT...
@michaeljackson77324 жыл бұрын
No I think Bret would have beat the hell outta Vince , I mean Bret was pissed
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
sure bring her with a gave one punch but I think both men would have try to heam each other up and chok each other until someone broke it up
@dr.loomis42213 жыл бұрын
It was a work
@fingersTitan3 жыл бұрын
Only one of them went through Stu Harts' dungeon.. I would of put my money on the one that did.
@timyumichuck92623 жыл бұрын
He would have beat Vince so hard it would have knocked Shawns tongue out
@joelramnarine9 ай бұрын
@@dr.loomis4221for bret it wasn't a work
@raulvito62464 жыл бұрын
The best thing Vince could have done for his company without even knowing it... the start of the Attitude Era
@pietropes13224 жыл бұрын
He did know it - it was planned like everything in wrestling, that's how it works and it's great.
@lerryperry4 жыл бұрын
If Vince was truly acting in good faith he should have told Bret in 1996 that he couldn't afford to pay him and he should go to WCW.
@burntvirtue4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, and failing that, he damn sure should've taken the belt off of him BEFORE he let his champion sign a contract with his biggest competition!
@burntvirtue4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathancampbell5231 On the contrary, business DID turn around enough to pay Bret. Vince told him as much in late 97, but it was too late as Bret had already signed the WCW contract.
@ckthegreat1004 жыл бұрын
@@jonathancampbell5231 right. After Shawn refused to do a job for him, Bret was never going to agree to drop the belt to Micheals. Why they didn’t just have him drop it to Taker or some else, I’ll never understand. Probably just Vince trying to flex his power over Bret
@Coqui-Cariduro3 жыл бұрын
It's a business. Get over it. There are no ethics or "good faith" when it comes to a competitive industry. Theres been way worse things done than this. You're just butthurt because your hero took the L and went to WCW where he really got buried and exposed while HBK came back to WWE and got to headline PPV's and display more classic matches. Vince doesn't need to be a good person. If he was, WWF/WWE wouldn't be the successful brand it is now.
@younggod39063 жыл бұрын
@@Coqui-Cariduro facts
@GermanWehrmacht4 жыл бұрын
Vince's reaction does really show tendencies of narcissism. Really putting the blame on Bret, while not taking blame. Certainly mixing a work and a shoot.
@SMD2x4 жыл бұрын
@Rich Smith i think you mean a Millionaire that should've been a Billionaire 2 decades ago.
@robertkramer904 жыл бұрын
Indeed but since this sport is all a fake show the champion doesn't have control about holding his belt. That's the price you have to pay with no real competition. In real sport you never know for sure how it will end. And looking back on this situation as an adult its just a drama show for nothing. All about a fake world championship belt.
@raymelpoche94154 жыл бұрын
He did the same thing after Owen died.
@fergalstackstreams3 жыл бұрын
Also thinking that he could say things like that and expect people to side with him.
@WSK90023 жыл бұрын
Well you say Narracism and I don't disagree, but also the Egotism of Bret Hart not wanting to drop a title, he didn't actually win, blaming Shawn Michaels for not putting him over, when he did the same thing, the Pro Wrestling business is full of self centered people.
@jamessteel90164 жыл бұрын
Bret screwed Bret, the interview that McMahon thought would make him face would actually turn him into one of the most hated heels in all the WWF! He got lucky, but made it work so well with him and Austin in 97, 98, and 99.
@murray19784 жыл бұрын
I always wondered if Vince thought this would make him a Face. I think he knew after this interview he would be a Heel. He said some ridiculous things like how he could beat Bret in a fight. Hart would have beaten the brakes off Vince if they actually fought.
@dn22pkkdd4764 жыл бұрын
He Got Lucky: the vince "Scumbag" McMahon story
@Nomed384 жыл бұрын
@@murray1978 Why would an owner of a professional wrestling (or in this case a sports entertainment) company allow their championship belt to be retained by a guy going to a rival company they wasn't in a talent exchange with? The entire agreement for Bret to retain and go elsewhere would have made the championship seem as a joke and made the other company look much better by default. Considering the very odd and downright insane ideals Vince has had I don't doubt he thought his "Bret screwed Bret" comments would make him a face or at least sympathetic cause Vince is the same guy that started the XFL twice after all.
@dr.loomis42213 жыл бұрын
You guys are fools. He didn't get lucky...it was all part of plan. The Montreal Screwjob was 100% a work.
@harshckuk4 жыл бұрын
The birth of Mr. McMahon
@user21764 жыл бұрын
Bret never gets enough credit for that
@kennethflaglerjr38434 жыл бұрын
Facts
@6coral63 жыл бұрын
Yup, I think it's a blessing in disguise honestly. I'm pretty sure if this never happened, we wouldn't get the Austin McMahon feud
@joeyzapata67863 жыл бұрын
You could argue that Bret pushing Vince earlier in the year was the birth of Mr. McMahon.
@marcdavis92633 жыл бұрын
Wrong..... Started years ago in Memphis
@peterdbaker4 жыл бұрын
Vince wouldn’t have done a goddamn thing in a fight
@HereIsWisdom13184 жыл бұрын
18:21-Why does NO ONE ever acknowledge how many times Shawn Michaels refused to do the job. He refused Dean Douglas, he refused Jeff Jarrett, and he refused Bret Hart in what was supposed to be a 3-match trilogy in which Shawn would come out on top in the 3rd and final match. All Bret wanted was for Shawn to show that he had no problem dropping to Bret.
@TheRoberino20014 жыл бұрын
This ^^. You are exactly right, it pisses me off.
@HereIsWisdom13184 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoberino2001 I hate to seem like im going overboard, but these are the reasons i simply HATE Shawn Michaels!
@TheRoberino20014 жыл бұрын
@@HereIsWisdom1318 Me too. Shawn is a slimebag and I don't care whether he was in the grip of substance issues, has become a born again Christian or was a phenomenal wrestler. Once a snake in the grass, always a snake in the grass in my opinion. And yes, I was always and still am a Bret Hart fan but I wouldn't think any different even if I was not.
@cax11754 жыл бұрын
@@HereIsWisdom1318 All he did was do the job for people once he returned.
@kristopherbrown1464 жыл бұрын
The heartbreak kid lays down for absolutely nobody,cause he's always bending over for McMahon
@davidfitzpatrick42544 жыл бұрын
interestingly enough HBK has since said that he regrets the screwjob which is why he agreed to shake Hart's hand in 2010.
@dispater1014 жыл бұрын
@Ultra Instinct 94 yeah, dude was a grade A+ douche in the 90s..but you gotta respect him for changing his ways
@hia52354 жыл бұрын
HBK is so untrustworthy its hilarious.
@davidfitzpatrick42544 жыл бұрын
@Ultra Instinct 94 he has since become a Christian and has stated in recent years he's ashamed of howe he acted n the nineties. \it's also why in his reunited \DX run in 06 he no longer said suck it and changed the cross chop.
@stevenhoward12334 жыл бұрын
Love Shawn the wrestler. Shawn the human.... Christian or not is an ass everything I've read. He's Clean. Much better person overall...but religion doesn't make ya great
@davidfitzpatrick42544 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhoward1233 i would agree with that and I'm Christian.
@Drummer82824 жыл бұрын
Hard to put up a fight when you’re KO’d with the first punch. Vince is delusional.
@tonyblack76704 жыл бұрын
For Real man
@Rayuzx4 жыл бұрын
While I'm not saying the fight wouldn't be on sided, you underestimate just how much an unprotected shot to the head can do to a person. The gloves in boxing are more for the other guy than they are for you.
@metamofia4 жыл бұрын
@@Rayuzx Well if it is a shoot/unsanctioned fight, everything goes right? Shots to the head, groin, throat... It doesn't matter. If Vince didn't get KO'ed and fought back, Bret would have mopped the floor with Vince's body.
@stevelowe26473 жыл бұрын
I've never heard anywhere where he was knocked out by the punch, plus it was a free punch.. if Bret had swung McMahon could've reacted. You evidently have had about as many fights as a vicar.
@Drummer82823 жыл бұрын
@@stevelowe2647 I’ve been in plenty of fights. I ain’t ever been knocked out so I wouldn’t know what it’s like. If you’re willing to offer up a free punch, you should at least have the chin to take it. And if you’ve never heard that Vince was Ko’d then you don’t know what you’re commenting on and shouldn’t remark.
@doomedhuh4 жыл бұрын
Vince reneged on Bret's contract. He should have taken the belt off him before telling him he was gonna break his contract. Vince essentially lied to Bret in order to keep him from going to WCW in '96. Vince screwed Bret.
@lexkanyima21953 жыл бұрын
So many times
@maxxdahl60622 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have really had to. Bret should have dropped it when told, to whom told. Bret is a PROMOTERS son, Stu would have screwed anyone who refused to drop one of their belts.
@doomedhuh2 жыл бұрын
@@maxxdahl6062 Bret had a 20 year contract Vince reneged on and he had creative control if his contract ended. Stu would have honored agreements he made with people. All vince had to do was honor his contract.
@maxxdahl60622 жыл бұрын
@@doomedhuh Don't care what contract he had, Stu hart would have screwed anyone refusing to drop a belt. Hell screwjobs were common from the beginning of wrestling until the 80's. ANYONE would have, Verne Gagne, Fritz Von Erich, Bill Watts, Stu, anyone would have.
@maxxdahl60622 жыл бұрын
@@doomedhuh You have a REALLY skewed vision of promoters if you think they would have put up with someone continually refusing to drop one of their belts. lol
@bradleylavigne59954 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best most unbiased breakdown of the screw job you can watch
@christiancage76474 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the fact that Shawn was losing to Bret on houseshows is pointless. Bret worked as a babyface at this time and it’s a known fact, that heels rarely get the W at a houseshow events
@cax11754 жыл бұрын
Shawn Michaels wasn't really a "heel" during that time. DX was over.
@SweeploRoblo4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the house show argument doesn't carry any weight, Shawn certainly didn't help establish Bret as a main event star, especially considering Survivor Series '92 was the only match of note they had at the time. If anything, the opposite is true, Bret dropping the belt to Shawn at Mania 12 did infinitely more for Shawn than a few house show wins that nobody would even be aware of did for Bret.
@Toast9604 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I agree with what Jim Cornette said regarding the Screwjob that “This was the biggest clusterf*** in the history of clusterf***s.” Why put the belt on someone when you’ve just realized you can’t afford him? Why let him negotiate with the competition when he’s still champ? Why put him in a situation with someone who you know he’s not been getting along with and who is acting like a spoiled brat at the time because his buddies went away? Why did the title change have to be at Survivor Series when there was another month on Bret’s WWF contract? There were a million ways they could have avoided this situation and, to my mind, Vince, Shawn, and Bret (and even Triple H to a degree) all share the blame for what happened.
@GutturalReef4 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched wrasslin' in 22 years, but still to this day, I'm still a Bret Hart mark!
@broncobalboa3 жыл бұрын
In my mid 30s now, but Bret will never stop to be my hero! Occasionally I talk about my favourite matches of all time. The list has not changed despite some truly amazing matches. It will always be: Bret vs. Owen WM10, Bret vs. Austin WM13 and Bret vs. Bulldog IYH Dec95
@speedking72243 жыл бұрын
Smark then
@TheeIdol2 жыл бұрын
You must be a CM junk fan as well.. Bret screwed Bret.
@neilsun25212 жыл бұрын
Same. WWF lost its direction during the year 2000.
@neilsun25212 жыл бұрын
@Eddy Val Because it sucked after Russo and Ferrara both left.
@coolchat183 жыл бұрын
It still amazes me how Vince could claim they couldn’t afford Bret but then he tried to hire Ultimate Warrior AGAIN at an astronomically absurd deal not long after the screw job. And this was after his last two runs went horribly.
@QuantumGamingUploads2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget he paid Tyson like crazy money. I think $25 Mil if I am not mistaken. Nothing about money but it was Triple H and Shawn not wanting Bret there.
@NotAGarage4 жыл бұрын
There's a interview with Bret from a few years ago where he talks about after the match when he was leaning on the top rope what Owen Hart said to him. He says Owen told him "He did nothing wrong. It was all them. And he has nothing to be ashamed of." A few other things. But I remember that part. God I miss Owen. Bret was right in every way he handled himself and everything he thought about the situation.
@ohlord36504 жыл бұрын
How exactly was it not Bret's fault for being an unreasonable diva, refusing to do business, and forcing Vince's hand?
@NotAGarage4 жыл бұрын
@@ohlord3650 grow up
@mrecto51874 жыл бұрын
@@ohlord3650 Well it is clear that you don’t know the story cuz this is just an oversimplification of the situation. It’s everyone’s fault. Bret , Shawn and Vince have all blame to carry. Bret said as much during an interview with JR and Shawn.
@devangpatel52274 жыл бұрын
@@ohlord3650 what i never understood is why not just strip him of the belt at the arena if bret refused to drop the belt? why not be a man and say "bret, no chance in hell you're not losing tonight. if you're not dropping it, then as owner i'm taking yoru belt and you go home. i'm putting taker in the main event". why agree to a finish where the match ends in a DQ just to screw the guy? honestly, if he wanted to embarress bret, that would have most definately been worse then creating a martyr. This is a guy who had made ridiculous amount of sacrifices to better your company for years.. That was just not necessary when vince himself caused most of the issues by mis-managing. vince was extremely fortunate that things worked out for him.
@lutherheggs4514 жыл бұрын
@@devangpatel5227 OR Bret could just be an adult and drop the belt knowing he's leaving like an adult would do on their way out, regardless of his personal feelings about Shawn.....Its how adults actually do things in the real world when they are professional.
@jomo28694 жыл бұрын
Aight, so longtime viewer, obviously love the main wrestling content covered, but just had to compliment the music you have in your intros! Like holy hell, you don't really think about it, but it's literally like the videos entrance music to set the tone and for the life of me, I can't remember the last time I didn't catch myself nodding along with the first 20 seconds of one of your vids!
@wrestlingtapes20364 жыл бұрын
Bret Hart knocked out Vince McMahon with one punch and made Shawn Michaels cry at the same time. What a legend!
@Krimsonking19983 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said
@anthonylewis92563 жыл бұрын
Never been a bigger mark statement ever made .
@elijahechicagobearsboyd57343 жыл бұрын
@@anthonylewis9256 Nah, I think you topped it by unnecessarily calling him a mark, you dumbass mark...
@isaidwhatisaid53693 жыл бұрын
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 LMAO!!!
@MentalXO2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonylewis9256 bro your not a wrestler.. Using wrestling speak doesn't make you look badass it makes you look like a tool.
@kaiserrino87744 жыл бұрын
I never understood why Undertaker just didn't beat Bret. Bret, I am sure, would've had no problems dropping the title to Taker. But then again the Mr. McMahon character maybe would've never existed and that also a would've been quite the travesty.
@michaelcallan59924 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me neither. McMahon keeps talking about this 14 year relationship and that it was Bret that forgot it was in professional sports entertainment. Or maybe he left out the word professional. That word is key. It seemed to me that Bret was fed up with the lack of professionalism. And McMahon can't really deny that. I mean Vince was good at sports entertainment but he was seriously lacking in the areas of professionalism and a relationship. I mean pick anyone, literally anyone for Bret to job to other than the guy that falsely and publicly accused Bret of adultery and who's vanity let to a young girl and relative of Bret's dying while in such a saddened state of mind. That may have been inevitable, and it may be a thing that happens, but something could have been done but wasn't. Poor relationship skills. With my own relationships, if there was a person like Shawn in my life, I'd be restraining myself from killing him, not trying to end the relationship with humility.
@michaelcallan59924 жыл бұрын
@Tiger Exactly. Shawn was and would be champion again. It shortsighted to think there would be no other opportunities. And disrespectful to Bret. How is it appropriate to command respect without giving the same. That is not how a relationship works with respect.
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
Because the undertaker was still working with mankind in the fall of 97
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
@Ultra Instinct 94 oh that's right I forget mankind versus Kane
@10YRWWEPPV4 жыл бұрын
@Tiger I always imagined if Bret was champion in 2001, would Vince sign him back to destroy the company that screwed him to put Vince out of business would have made sweet revenge. But honestly when WCW folded, Bret would have sat out his lucrative contract like many others have done, but wrestle for the upstart NWA TNA in 2002 I could have easily seen him as NWA world champion.
@ferriswheeler084 жыл бұрын
Imagine the journalism integrity we might have if the entire press did research and presentation like our man here. Anither great episode with a lot of info and unbiased.. fantastic again!! On day I hope the press follow your example!
@dnuck3184 жыл бұрын
Truth
@SinStar872 жыл бұрын
he literally gave his opinion on every point of the interview. How is that unbiased?
@manichohan3194 жыл бұрын
Bret hart would've tied vince up in knots if he wanted
@The_Dee_Jay4 жыл бұрын
Yep - Vince was in decent shape for his age but still no match for the things Bret learned with Stu in the basement all those years
@manichohan3194 жыл бұрын
@@The_Dee_Jay thats it theres just levels, vince would slap up the average joe
@Ken-uh8md4 жыл бұрын
lol bret would ve cried like the lil bitch he was and he is
@eja21994 жыл бұрын
Right. Vince should be lucky all he got was one punch
@tonyblack76704 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@jamesdjl43594 жыл бұрын
Man to man, i love you. Had to be said. Your videos get me through the work day. I was a product of this era of wrestling and your videos blow me away with the nostalgia. Keep this excellence up my friend.
@louisvelez404 жыл бұрын
In Vince's own words if Vince coulda fought Bret back: "Not tonight, not any any night", in his own music theme no chance in hell. Bret was in great shape when he returned late 96 all the way to the screw job.
@mrmoose66193 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this part of the Montreal Screwjob. Once Bret lost to HBK (and I can't stand HBK then and now), that made me change the channel and I never saw this. Should be interesting (will comment later after this).
@g-dub52724 жыл бұрын
Vince was right...WCW wouldn’t know what to do with Bret
@residentelect4 жыл бұрын
@Rich Smith "Bret wants a dollar more..? Nah, that's not gonna work for me _Brother_ "
@jackspicey76084 жыл бұрын
Because WCW didn't even need Bret they just want to take a Hard Blow to the WWF. That's why they take bret
@filmbuff27774 жыл бұрын
Well, WCW used Bret better than how McMahon used Owen.
@JLvatron4 жыл бұрын
The truth is, Bret wasn't Hollywood. Bret wasn't a founding father of the nWo. Bret wasn't the franchise Sting. Given these facts, WCW had some great storylines with Bret. His brotherly rivalry with Sting, his siding with nWo Hollywood, his heat with his old WWF rivals. And especially his feud with Goldberg, which very few people were able to hold their own against, including Hollywood.
@melvynsngltn273 жыл бұрын
@@residentelect 😂😂😂
@mattjames26994 жыл бұрын
Bret: "That finish doesn't work for me, brother."
@elijahechicagobearsboyd57343 жыл бұрын
DUMB COMMENT.
@ryanstewart44442 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite things about this channel is the way you bring up inconvenient truths (that often get overlooked in internet echo chambers) in a non-confrontational way that makes people think about their memories and perceptions. Case in point: Michaels constant loses to Hart earlier.
@dusteedawg29152 жыл бұрын
Constant losses YES!!!.....hoooowever the ones you REMEMBER are the iron man match wich Michael's one the screwjob and some lame ones. So idk do ya take the more mini wins or the few Big ones everyone remembers????? I gotcha THEIR
@gumdeo2 жыл бұрын
Matches that didn't matter.
@StealthMarmot_ Жыл бұрын
@@gumdeo They didn't publicly, but it is something to think about. When a guy has beaten you a hundred times face to face and yet refuses to lose just a third time to you? You do a certain script day in and day out a literal hundred times, it's going to stick in your mind.
@mikegarmon5368 Жыл бұрын
@@dusteedawg2915 Please tell me English isn't your first language.
@bbrodriguez334 жыл бұрын
Vince has always thought he was a tough guy, so of course he'd say he could have taken Bret. How does that intro go again, thats right 'no chance in hell', that's about as much chance i'd give him of beating Bret in a fight that night or any other night before his career was cut short and he had the stroke.
@dunnwell77804 жыл бұрын
You never know, Vince grew up in a violent trailer park environment in the Carolinas, and was a successful boxer and wrestler at school. Plus he freely admits that irl while growing up he fought dirty, eye rakes and throat punches among other short cuts. Bret would likely have won, but Vince was a fitness and muscle freak with a background in fighting.
@bbrodriguez334 жыл бұрын
@@dunnwell7780 This has only even been talked about by Vince, that's why i take it with a grain of salt. I don't doubt he got himself into fights though, he's a hard headed dude with a mouth on him.
@SardoNumspa823 жыл бұрын
I love your channel man. I'm an old school wrestling fan I don't care for the newer storylines or wrestlers of today. I love the fact that you cover content from the time period Where it meant the most to me. Keep being awesome brother
@simobut71744 жыл бұрын
Well known Brett was one tough badass even Austin and taker admits that
@seanabbins54814 жыл бұрын
He also had some background in shoot wrestling. That makes a difference. He'd have the coordination and the techniques down. Vince never liked wrestling, only sports entertainment, so he would be at a disadvantage.
@kranix91664 жыл бұрын
@@seanabbins5481 Yep. Bret said about the punch that he knew if he tried to throw a haymaker or anything that involved him bring his arm up and back that because of so many people being physically close, one of them would have grabbed his arm, which is why Bret threw an uppercut.
@markjagger24124 жыл бұрын
The fight with Michaels was pathetic on both sides though. Bret himself even refers to it as a ‘cat fight’.
@pietropes13224 жыл бұрын
Tough for an actor yeh. These guys are actors/entertainers remember.
@patrickged91094 жыл бұрын
@@pietropes1322 no dude Bret has a legit gold medal for winning a provincial level wrestling tournament. Probably a lot more then you have ever won.
@johnnyso19794 жыл бұрын
Goodbye, Vince Mcmahon: announcer. Hello, Mr. McMahon.
@rchopra5354 жыл бұрын
You mentioned how Bret was popular in Europe, I am from India and I had a bret poster when I was 4 in 93. He was huge to me but sadly we didn't have any network here that aired wcw lol. So when he left in 97, I didn't know what happened to him. Wish we had easy access to the internet,
@BlueLighteningGojo4 жыл бұрын
I legit wish they had footage of Bret knocking Vince out backstage....man! I’d pay mad money for that.
@dr.loomis42213 жыл бұрын
It doesn't exist because it didn't happen! It was all a work! I can't believe people still think this was real. Bret had a camera crew there but conviently had them leave the room. Of course they are there to film Vince limping away though. Then the next night the put some makeup on Vince's eye and did that interview. They were both in on it...don't be a fool.
@hia52354 жыл бұрын
But Vince turned around and paid Ultimate Warrior almost as much as Bret would've been paid months later......
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
I think that's been some Vince biggest problem right there overpaying wrestlers that he likes. He bitched about him not selling any merchandise to his satisfaction ok then why are you paying Bret Hart and ultimate warrior this much money if they not selling out like Max?
@hia52354 жыл бұрын
@@raidernation7427 Shame Vince didnt blow that wad on a sure thing instead of that steroid hound.
@JM19939514 жыл бұрын
@@raidernation7427 so, had Vince not blown money on Warrior he could’ve honored Bret’s contract. Owen’s career would certainly taken another trajectory and he wouldn’t have been made to be the Blue Blazer again. And we would’ve gotten Bret Hart vs. Kurt Angle.
@dericharris78354 жыл бұрын
Bret and the heart foundation actually helped shape the attitude era Brets character with the heart foundation was way different than the untouchable baby face in the early 90’s it just wasn’t coined attitude era until he left. He would have fit in perfect.
@Ken-uh8md4 жыл бұрын
lol no he was too boring attitude era is about attitude not cry babies
@dericharris78354 жыл бұрын
@@Ken-uh8md I can’t argue your opinion but Canada vs United States was a good storyline his reign as champ never hurt the company and people like to point at DX beginning it but I look at Austin vs Bret as the beginning. You suddenly saw the crowd going against who the company said was heel and baby face and cheering for the heel in this case Austin. Austin vs Bret was one of the greatest and underrated rivalries and I believe they could have had even more great matches. Bret changed his character after noticing the crowds reaction to Austin to a me vs the whole United States, reformed the heart foundation, started cursing... we had never seen a baby face be painted as heel like that. Some wrestlers go back and forth from heel to baby face (Hbk, Rock, Jericho, etc)but Bret and Hogan were looked at as classic baby faces before their change. I look at things like that and Steve Austin being cheered vs Bret instead of being booed as the beginning... just my opinion.
@HereIsWisdom13184 жыл бұрын
IMO, when Bret shoved Vince on his ass and gave the F-bomb tirade, that is when the Attitude Era started.
@dericharris78354 жыл бұрын
@@HereIsWisdom1318 I forgot about that that’s why I said people forget how much Brets character had changed from the early 90’s.
@ericthomas9174 жыл бұрын
@@dericharris7835 when Bret was champion he was the #2 heel in the company behind Shawn Michaels. Of course that was done on purpose.
@runevi4 жыл бұрын
The fact that he watched this back and thought "This is a babyface interview" shows how out of touch Vince was.
@thetimebinder3 жыл бұрын
Vince also through a rich narcissistic Texas millionaire (JBL) was a Babyface.
@louisvelez404 жыл бұрын
As much as this has been talked about so many times, I really liked your breakdown on this particular video. I can see from both perspectives that both men to a certain extent refused to accept responsibility for their actions. I will say Bret's life and career went towards a downward spiral despite winning titles in WCW and making money. Bret did not want to leave the WWF and you see how his career turned out in WCW. At the same time I don't think Bret would have lasted in the edgy attitude era since he wasn't all ok with it in the first place.
@thecharmcityplayerbrandona88274 жыл бұрын
I do agree that both men did not accept their responsibilities and you are right I don't think Bret Hart wouldn't have last that long in the Attitude Era
@Psyclops_Shop4 жыл бұрын
I think if he took a little bit of Sting's character at this time it could have worked. Not the whole "crow" aesthetic but more so the motivation.
@louisvelez404 жыл бұрын
@Jhc you make great points and I agree with you for the most part. I can see with Austin since he has great chemistry with him but after that I'm not so sure. I think Bret would've started very well but then fall off after and I'm a big Bret Hart fan. The only other guy I could see Bret working well with would've been Kurt Angle as wrestling machine Kurt.
@88K-d6h4 жыл бұрын
Bret was a great heel at the time tho
@BrandanTheBroker4 жыл бұрын
@@louisvelez40 thanks for reminding me of the one match I really wanted but never got 😭 but agrees with you, if Bret stayed he would have found a way to make himself work in the AE, and seeing that Shawn was gone soon, he would have been a lot happier
@specterRaven4 жыл бұрын
I loved how cold & calculating vince sounded here with that interview. Especially when he utters those 3 words: "Bret screwed Bret."
@JohnDoe-ym5ly4 жыл бұрын
And yet he thinks hes coming out of it as a babyface. And people wonder why people like Roman Reigns were booked the way they were for so long. WWE had their biggest success when they had all the territory talent they could get and they got themselves over. Vince only ever monetized ppl who got themselves over....he never actually booked in a way to make stars
@alleahsasseville3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! It really is sad when you look back at this subject..... that such a DEPENDABLE and RELIABLE talent like Bett was treated so badly. I MSS all of those wrestlers that joined him in the Canadian clique. (Jim,Owen,Brian,Davey, ❤🇨🇦)
@HereIsWisdom13184 жыл бұрын
7:56-If i was Bret, I would have NEVER dropped to Shawn Michaels. Hell, Bret should have resolved to NEVER drop to Shawn Michaels after he (Shawn) reneged on the WM13 match.
@NapoIeoneBuonaparte4 жыл бұрын
I would drop the title to my worst enemy aslong as they put other more talented people over, then agein I would do what you said
@mitchellima47364 жыл бұрын
While this is easier said then done, essentially with 90s hbk, I feel it's hyprictical for brett to complain about sean not putting bret over in his later years with the company, when he didn't put sean over either. I feel if your going to complain about not putting people over you kinda have to be the bigger man. In general I feel that was Brett's biggest issue here. He was feeling with Sean at his worst and lowest point, and Vince who would do anything he thought was right to protect his company weather he was right or wrong. I feel brett went down to there level to deal with them and it made him hypocritical. But brett was in a very hard situation to be in, so I do understand. I also understand were vince was comming from to tho
@kristopherbrown1464 жыл бұрын
Shawn Michaels seemed to be allergic to dropping titles during this period he didn't want to even drop it to Austin until undertaker threatened to give him a justified ass kicking.
@ajsgaming834 жыл бұрын
@@kristopherbrown146 actually he was always gonna do it, shawn never know what taker was planing and even taker said he did not confront shawn about what he was planing, shawn was only going around saying that coz despite being injured and one wrong bump could have left him in a wheelchair he thought that vince and the company did not appreciate the sacrifice he was making so he was lashing out. he could hav easily just gave up the belt like he did when he had his knee injury at the start in 97. this is why shawn did not wrestle from rumble to maina to make sure he could rest up as much as he can to get thro the match, you could tell how much pain he was in throughout the match.
@Czah53 жыл бұрын
Every time I pull myself back from the edge, I am pulled right back to it believing that this was the greatest work in pro wrestling history.
@gumdeo2 жыл бұрын
It certainly feels like a work.
@jumpingbombangels2856 Жыл бұрын
You mean every time you pick the crack pipe back up 😂
@axelfoley2061 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I've always thought it was a work.
@djcol77424 жыл бұрын
As a huge bret hart fan, this channel has covered his story as a wrestling performer, from begining to end, better than any other ive seen.
@constablekennedy82274 жыл бұрын
They should Interview Vince McMahon now about the Ratings in WWE and he can say ...... - “Vince Screwed Vince” .......... 👀
@jordanjuarez81024 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing.
@Gunners_Mate_Guns3 жыл бұрын
Truth
@Gunners_Mate_Guns3 жыл бұрын
You either live long enough to become the hero, or you live so long that you become the villain.
@Junkiescum2 жыл бұрын
“Vince screwed a paralegal”
@tjjordan42073 жыл бұрын
Losing to Shawn wasn’t a big deal until HBK opened his mouth and insulted Bret. This wasn’t about not wanting to lose in Canada or because he simply didn’t like Shawn, this was about feeling disrespected and not wishing to reward someone for their behavior.
@bclr6843 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but it’s fiction. Your playing a part. When your director says you lose, you do you job. Bret was a mark for himself and was let go because he wasn’t worth what he wanted paid.
@woobgamer5210 Жыл бұрын
@@bclr6843 difference between not being worth it, and being unable to be paid
@bclr6843 Жыл бұрын
@@woobgamer5210 ya there is but Bret wasn’t worth it. He wasn’t drawing in 97. Nobody cared he was as stale as hulk hogan and all the other dinosaurs. I remember people went to those shows for Austin and DX. By the time Bret left nobody but foley cared and even he was only a day. Fact is raw didn’t beat nitro till they got rid of Bret. He wasn’t worth it
@anthonyterry8162 Жыл бұрын
Irrelevant. At the end of the day, Vince says who wins and loses, not Bret
@MrBlack-wt5er Жыл бұрын
@@bclr6843Actually (Vince) should have honored his end of the contract that he signed in the first place and didn't which would actually give Bret every legal right and every (ethical and moral) right to void his end of that contract that wasn't honored as soon as it wasn't matched dollar for dollar or if it even deviated in the slightest in what was in the 30 day claus and that is loosely explained in the video and isn't hard to find the details of the contract (elsewhere) which has nothing to do with some dumbass (opinion) about how after being ripped off about 50% of the money initially agreed upon in a (legally documented contract) then being two faced in the end doesn't at all fit the analogy you laid out (director in a movie). If the director in the movie agreed that the actor was going to direct the last 20 minutes of the movie then it wouldn't matter at all what the director wanted the end of the movie to be and if you short an actor over 1 million dollars then they're not going to be showing up to finish the rest of the movie so I really didn't get your point in any of this at all since Bret did have more control in the contract at this point (if that didn't expire already) than Vince. As far as (not worth it dinosaur) 97 was his best year and that's after being the flagship of the company for the last few years prior consecutively and also being offered the same amount from WCW a year prior and this is probably the most memorable angle there is in wrestling history especially after the wm13 match which is still hailed today as the best match of all time and Bret at this point was still probably number one in all of the "Commonwealth" and still big in the United States...
@Makainternational4 жыл бұрын
Bret never sold out. Even before he faxed his contract to WCW, he called Vince and asked him to tell him something that would make him stay. What would be the plan for his character for the next year and Vince said he would job to Shawn Michaels time and time again and then finally on the 5th or 6th time, Bret would beat Shawn. Now we all know that this would have degraded Bret’s character to lose multiple times in a row to Shawn and when it would come to the match that Bret wins....Shawn might lose his smile again. I truly believe that Bret would have liked to keep the title in Canada and hand over the belt the next night but I also believe that he would have done the job for the Undertaker or Stone Cold. This boys and girls is a lesson in communication or rather lack of communication. You had the two best wrestling athletes of all time at your company, and could have done so much with Bret and Shawn over the years. Unfortunately it was Shawn who was just too immature at the time. Bret was 8 years older and from a different generation of respect. Shawn was that rebellious character that was even hard for Vince to deal with. No one knew if Shawn was going to do the job for Austin at Mania 14 until the last minute.
4 жыл бұрын
Well said 👏
@only1icon18014 жыл бұрын
Could not of said it better myself, well said sir
@cybertronmessiah4 жыл бұрын
This. All of this. VInce has been...out of touch. Some say since going PG, but this entire interview would show he's been out of touch for a lot longer. Bret just wanted his place. I've never been huge on Bret, when I was younger, I felt he was too one dimensional. But knowing everything around this that I do now, I'm all in for all things Bret Hart. The man was a wrestling machine.
@aaronneville11644 жыл бұрын
Michaels was a pain self admitted, but Hart was no saint. Hart was a pain from a creative standpoint and was notoriously late to work which in the world of any business is very unprofessional and disrespectful. No smart wrestling promoter is going to allow there company champion to give a goodbye speech, hand over the title without losing it to go work for the competitor. That's terrible business. It's easy to say that Bret would have dropped it to others like Austin or Taker, but what gets overlooked in the story is the fact that Bret Hart made the decision to play hard ball by ultimately telling his employer that he flat out was not going to surrender the belt to ANYONE before Montreal took place AND would also not surrender the belt anywhere in Canada under any circumstances. By the time Bret was actually willing to drop the title, it would be too late. You'd have WCW easily spoiling everything by announcing that they had acquired the WWF champion immediately after the event in Montreal. In this instance Michaels turned out to be to the least to blame knowing all the facts.
@FFTransgression4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual. Great perspective and thank you for not going over Montreal in detail, we all know the story and don't need to hear it over and over again. Cool perspective as always, keep up the great videos!
@WarhawkBeyond20403 жыл бұрын
"Bret screwed Bret" and with those three infamous, the greatest wrestling villain was officially born and gone was the smiley friendly announcer. Mr. McMahon had arrived and everyone would learn the hard way, you don't cross the boss.
@inuenndo_4 жыл бұрын
Even on topics i know and have read up on. I really enjoy hearing your takes, historical breakdown, and how you set up the topic. Not to mention the music is always top tier, beautiful work you do brother
@theantone74764 жыл бұрын
Bret was definitely screwed and there was no evidence to prove he intended to go to Nitro with the WWE title. Bret had too much respect for Vince and WWE to do that. He didnt even want to go to WCW in the first place knowing he'd be mishandled but Vinny Mac practically gave him a ride to the front door
@LuchadorMasque4 жыл бұрын
If you were at work and your boss was like, hey. Do this. And you were like, no, I don't want to. I don't like the guy I have to do it with. Not doing it, What would happen?
@y2j134 жыл бұрын
either way Vince had to deal with one championship showing up on wcw. I wouldn't take the chance of it happening again
@10YRWWEPPV4 жыл бұрын
@@y2j13 especially if it's your top prize, the WWF championship. By having on Nitro and tossing it in a trashcan the WWF would lose face value and the belt would be worthless. In other words the company would be embarrassed.
@burntvirtue4 жыл бұрын
@@LuchadorMasque The boss in your inapplicable scenario didn't give that employee the option to decide what he won't do the way Vince did when he agreed to Bret's reasonable creative control clause. So...kinda changes your little scenario.
@LuchadorMasque4 жыл бұрын
@@burntvirtue he was given "reasonable" creative control. It wasnt like he was hogan in wcw
@choke92704 жыл бұрын
Love your work brother!! One of my favourite channels.! Shawn Michaels was my idol as a kid and I still have him up there as the best of all time in ring performance wise. On a par with Flair. But as I’ve grown and learnt about the ins and outs of the business. As an art. Bret is the best of all time for me. Snug and safe style. Best psychology I’ve ever seen. Saddest thing of all was Owen was all of those things and a better athlete. Thanks for the amazing content. Especially in this toughest of years and a merry Christmas to you👍
@Magicmario24 жыл бұрын
I have just watched a beautiful biography of Paul Orndorff. In that video he states that the psychology of the match is missing in the matches seen now and this is exactly your point in one of the videos that you mention. I believe it was Bret Hart vs Piper. That the storytelling in the ring is missing from today’s matches. If they want people coming back to wrestling they need people who can bring that art form back.
@brok4life21214 жыл бұрын
I love your work!!!! I really love your middle ground take on things in your videos... Job well done!!!
@foxholiday43084 жыл бұрын
Man, this was a great time in wrestling, two huge promotions with real competition great workers, and real controversy
@justinwilson20254 жыл бұрын
Excellent work again my friend. How about some videos on the history of most of the current long standing championships and belts we don't see anymore. I've always been curious about what happened to the wcw television title belt
@JessSimpson13134 жыл бұрын
"Could McMahon take Bret Hart if he taught back?" - hahahahahaha no.
@timzimmerman26914 жыл бұрын
Another solid video. I appreciate that you presented both perspectives and really made me think how both Vince and Bret must have seen things throughout the entire ordeal.
@colombusfranklin12833 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that Bret was the most popular wrestler in Germany whenever they came over here
@fairevaluation40643 жыл бұрын
great work to the team that put this video together. I mean wow! this is good stuff as usual
@msm18764 жыл бұрын
This interview has got to be the greatest botched attempt at something that accidentally yielded a near infinite harvest of magnificence. It’s up there with the creation of the potato chip and the invention of viagra.
@joshwilliams99554 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the background music , your videos are a complete vibe
@Drummer82824 жыл бұрын
Bret would have went out with a loss to ANYONE other than Shawn and that refusal to lose to Shawn was only because Shawn said he wouldn’t do the job for Bret. So I’m not sure how anyone can say Bret lost sight that it’s JUST sports entertainment when Shawn made it personal.
@yagneshkumbhar41914 жыл бұрын
Brett and Shawn are having a real feud at that time u do say some cocky sh!t to your rival which u don't necessarily mean. We don't know that Shawn will job to beret or not if such situation really arises. I still think screwjob happens because of bret's big ego.
@PewPewPark4 жыл бұрын
@@yagneshkumbhar4191 right because Shawn Michaels "losing his smile" had nothing to do with refusing to lose to Brett Hart.
@elijahechicagobearsboyd57343 жыл бұрын
@@yagneshkumbhar4191 SILENCE
@derryXDINES4 жыл бұрын
I think you did a good job and covered this from a better angle than most videos I've seen. I have long thought this was a work from the beginning and if they didn't make that dvd about 7 years ago with the sit down between Bret and Shawn, I would have changed my mind. The way it happened was win-win for all, so I can't see how it would have benefitted Vince burying Bret on the way out like they talk about.
@JoelChavez61214 жыл бұрын
Vince can't complain about Bret being unreasonable when he signed the contact giving Bret creative control in the last 30 days, And he put up with Hogan's and Warrior's demands by that point
@Blackbeard05312 жыл бұрын
I really love this channel. I listen to your videos while dozing off every night. Very soothing. Not a knock on the content tho. Really enjoyable videos.
@stupartidsm80034 жыл бұрын
Still to this day i am a Bret Hart fan.
@vladimirshevshenco61974 жыл бұрын
YOU'R CANADIAN!
@neildarr4 жыл бұрын
Me too and I’m a American
@stupartidsm80034 жыл бұрын
@@vladimirshevshenco6197 my head doesnt flop around, 100% Amerikan.
@arnavbhagwat42324 жыл бұрын
I'm an Indian Hart fan. When he toured India in 1996 with the WWF he sold out a 100.000 crowd arena. Hart was the man !
@michael.tmclean20954 жыл бұрын
You know your Canadian when, you our a hitman fan,
@steve_jackson99334 жыл бұрын
One has to admit this changed the WWE. While it was getting edgier, it allow The Mr. Mcmahon character to come alive and even though most people knew that VInce owned the company, it got him off of commentary duty and in the limelight of being the owner. Those two things really shaped the WWE from that point forward. Let's face it, had he lost that night without the screwjob, how many people would have remembered it? It would have been just another pay per view. I think "The fingerpoke of Doom" and this are two events will live on.
@billdenny95994 жыл бұрын
I don't think Vince meant "I would've knocked Bret out!" When he said "it would've ended differently." I think he was implying he's no slouch in the fitness department either. Who knows though? Maybe he really thought he could take Bret down but I doubt it.
@walker19844 жыл бұрын
I don't think after what he had done, Vince would have. It's like Bruce Prichard said, you gotta give him that one.
@coreysmith48613 жыл бұрын
fans reacted to the interview exactly how Vince wanted them to. He became the ultimate heel and capitalised on that with his rivalry with Stone Cold.
@coebro14 жыл бұрын
If Vince fought back he’d get beat up worse
@lukehallifax30002 жыл бұрын
Greatest work ever! It was just too perfect not to be scripted
@HereIsWisdom13184 жыл бұрын
I loved Bret, and i always believed the montreal screwjob was real. I just find it strange that Bret would allow himself to be placed in a submission hold, and it seems too convenient that his reasoning is because he thought Earl Hebner had his back.
@H3roin16204 жыл бұрын
Vince breached the creative control clause clause in the contract which stated that they could not degrade Bret's character during his last days in the company. Not only did they not honor that while he was leaving, but they continued to do that after he left for several weeks after, including the midget Bret promo and made money in the process.
@JLvatron4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Here's my comments, including some revelations, and differences of opinion. 1-Shawn told Bret he wouldn't job to him, plus Shawn very often forfeited a belt instead of getting beaten in the ring. This, plus Bret's creative control made me side with Bret. But you shined the light that HBK lost many times earlier to Bret. So Bret wasn't fully right in Montreal. 2-I disagree that McMahon misjudged the fans in his interview. Vince always loved a wrestler who could generate heat, and he's a smart business man. I think Vince brilliantly judged the fans would hate him in the interview and purposefully did so to become the heel. 3-I think Vince let Bret punch him, for a counter-sue in case Bret sued Vince for the screwjob.
@szepi792 жыл бұрын
when HBK told Bret he wouldn't drop the belt for him, and Bret got offended, he wasn't acting professional. It's easy being a pro, when everyone around you is decent. Bret should have been the bigger man and just drop the belt to him anyways. on the other hand, HBK could/should have apologized, and make peace with Bret. on the other other hand, Vince could have organized a match between StoneCold and Bret, drop the belt, and everyone would have been happy. so, in this whole situation, not a single person acted professional. it would only take 1 of them to prevent this. on the question of who screwed Bret: Vince, HBK and Bret screwed Bret. not in that order regarding the timelin, but the share of the blame.
@MarvoloSalazar2 жыл бұрын
@@szepi79 well said i feel this way too
@bigshot09872 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel can't get enough wrestling nostalgia
@JoaoEstanislau924 жыл бұрын
In terms of comunication, this interview is a big plus of how to react in crises. Vince is a 10/10 on mic skills
@tigerbug694 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another excellent video. Would love to see a detailed video on the 'McMemphis' saga!
@imogenaris16974 жыл бұрын
Bret was in a "no win" situation in terms of his character. Had he stayed in the wwe by taking a pay cut, Shawn's influence on Vince would have reflected in Bret's character being continually mocked & devalued. The mini Bret parody & the Hart Foundation humiliation burials foreshadowed that. It's anyone's guess how Shawn could have further buried him personally & professionally. Staying in a company with an enemy that had so much political clout wouldn't have been good long term. Wcw's burial of Bret's character & career speaks for itself. Showing you're the better man by doing the job would have been the right thing to do, but any proud man would have done what Bret did after Shawn said he would never do the same for Bret. If Bret could become a multi millionaire & take care of his debts & family, then good for him. Everyone involved has to live with their decisions
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
I think it was a good thing that heart left because he gave opportunity to Stone Cold Steve Austin do to become a star. Besides can you really picture him in the attitude era with his personality. I just don't think Brett Hart would have been that edge here plus he does have a hard time selling promos.
@walker19844 жыл бұрын
@@attiepollard7847 do you think if HBK hadn't taken that spot in the casket match that broke his back, that he'd not try to undermine Austin with his politics?
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
@@walker1984 maybe. By that time the locker room will probably be in full revolt if you play politics
@ajsgaming834 жыл бұрын
@@walker1984 actually even b4 he was due to win the title hbk know he was only gonna have the belt till wm14 but he did not mind coz he was having fun with dx and they was looking at maybe getting a run with the tag belts and feuding with the outlaws (so the outlaws would not hav joined DX and DX would have been hbk hh and x-pac)
@doombringer32213 жыл бұрын
@@ajsgaming83 also don't forget if shawn didn't dropped the title to austin, then undertaker would beat him to death.
@GFish66874 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video man. These are absolutely incredible. I was a huge Hitman Fan back in the day. I’m Still pissed about that Montreal screwjob finish. What WWE, should’ve done (IMO) was should’ve brought Bret Back in 2005, instead of 2010. Not sure what Bret and Vince’s relationship was at that time though? When HBK, cut the nuclear heat promo on Raw in Montreal. When Bret’s music played massive pop. Just a missed opportunity. Keep it up the great work!
@bealgates85944 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness that Bret was recording wrestling with shadows because Vince would have been perceived “right”
@mrjackbilbo4 жыл бұрын
Man i love your channel man,. Thank you so much
@laserramon99264 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised that Canadian crowd didn't riot that night.
@mischasmith60883 жыл бұрын
We're good people.
@choke92704 жыл бұрын
Bret won the Monday night wars for Vince. That’s the craziest thing. WM 13 was supposed to be HBK repaying the favour to Bret. He was injured. So Bret works Austin. Possibly the greatest double turn and visual (blood. Sharpshooter ect) in wrestling history. Austin blows up. Montreal. The biggest event in pro wrestling ever. Best heat for DX. Creates the Mr McMahon character who fueds with Austin who ... was pretty much made by Bret. WWE stomps WCW into the ground and Bret is in there yard earning millions and working half the dates . Greatest work of all time.
@Lifeskillsish4 жыл бұрын
Imagine an invasion storyline where Bret came back then leading the WCW team
@10YRWWEPPV4 жыл бұрын
That should have happened but he would have sat out on his contract and wrestled anywhere but WWE. Imagine, more Bret/Austin, taker as a biker and dream matches with Angle, Jericho, or rock.
@Jamthree164 жыл бұрын
Great video as always I love ur take on things u always break it down with no bias
@joshuelhof60074 жыл бұрын
Eric bischoff on 83 weeks was asked about Bret getting offered a deal in 96 and eric said he talked with Bret but never offered him a deal as it became a story line in TV when Bret was returning after wm12 if he was going to resign with wwe or go to wcw
@elijahechicagobearsboyd57343 жыл бұрын
Here's an important excluded detail, ERIC BISCHOFF IS A NOTORIOUS LIAR.
@blade89894 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the content!
@TheRoberino20014 жыл бұрын
You've misrepresented the initial situation here. Bret refused to lose in Canada, that's true. However, at no point did he refuse to lose to Shawn Michaels. Bret had told Shawn that he would drop the title to him, even though Shawn made it very clear he would have never even tolerated the idea of doing the same in reciprocation. Bret agreed he would do the J-O-B to Shawn but he suggested doing it on the episode of Raw a week later. And Bret had more than proved he was trustworthy, regardless of him being outside of his contract at that time. Vince played this perfectly and as such created the Mr McMahon character. Stone Cold and The Rock wouldn't have been so over without the Mr McMahon character. Inadvertently, Bret won WWF the Monday Night Wars and people over look that.
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
Yes but even in Canada and I don't care if he had creativity control "HE STILL SHOULD HAVE DROPPED THE BELT TO HBK" Even in Canada. In a perfect world he should have dropped that belt at the next in your house event degeneration x.
@Bsfnelz204 жыл бұрын
Maybe that was the plan from the very beginning it's hard to tell what was real and what was script we will never know the truth
4 жыл бұрын
@@attiepollard7847 He had creative control, he was told by the crying baby I lost my smile boy toy that he wouldn't do the job for him So, forgive Bret for being a man of a principle and not jump when the boss says jump Even in normal job, people might fight back boss order if it was degrading
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
@ then Bret Hart got what was coming to him then.
4 жыл бұрын
@@attiepollard7847 You are just a bitter person who seemed to be against Bret How did he have it coming after all of what I said? I don't believe that a person should lay down for his boss to step over him and damage his character
@JonathanHassingerChannel10 ай бұрын
The idea of clumsy bulky rich Vince thinking he could take Bret in any kind of physical altercation is hilarious.
@Blackhaze30004 жыл бұрын
Vince has got to stop, whether he had fought back or not Bret would've worn that ass out. McMahon trying to save some of his manhood dignity with that statement haha.
@attiepollard78474 жыл бұрын
Let's be realistic both men would have probably tied each other up trying to choke each other out into someone came in there to break them up.
@jameshill34033 жыл бұрын
I'd put money on Bret
@brandonyouth52414 жыл бұрын
Damn that intro is so fn sickkk. Love it. Great content as well. Much love.
@tomislavgrozdanic2 жыл бұрын
In the end Vince was right. Bret screwed Bret, his career went down after this, he had to quit wrestling, maybe from the financial point not, but lost his health and still blaming Goldberg for the kick until today. He also didn’t regret to hit Vince in to the jaw, what if he did a serious injury to Vince with that hit? He wouldn’t care, but after 20+ years he’s blaming Goldberg and that was an accident. And what for me is the most laughable thing is, that wrestling is just fiction like a movie and when the director changes something the actor doesn’t goes around and telling everybody how he got screwed. Vince was scared of the aggressive attitude of WCW where Blaze dropped her WWF belt into a trash can, that Bret if he doesn’t lose the title maybe do the same. Raw wasn’t back live then, Rick Rude appeared in both shows at the same time, because Raw was taped, Bischoff was reading results from Raw in the beginning of Nitro, so I can understand that Vince was paranoid and wanted Bret to job for HBK, he refused and we all know what happened. In the end Vince took the best of it and created the Attitude era and put WCW to the rest.
@NearlyDeparted6 ай бұрын
I understand that Bret had a "reasonable creative control" clause in his contract, but couldn't it be argued in court that refusing to drop a belt to someone simply because you don't like him isn't "reasonable" at all?