John Salley: The Average NBA Career is 3.5 Years, It's Not Good for NBA to Have Old Players (Part 4)

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John Salley spoke on the possibility of LeBron James possibly hanging around in the NBA, hoping to participate alongside his son. Despite Salley validating LeBron’s potential plan, he also emphasizes the inevitability of moving on from being an athlete, recalling his own retirement at 36 and subsequent switch to acting and producing in Hollywood. In a previous VladTV interview, former NFL player Rashard Mendenhall talked about his decision to walk away from football at 26. He emphasizes that he never saw football as the be-all and end-all of his life, leaving the sport became an option when the pitfalls of the sports career began to overshadow the benefits. The conversation also examined the increasing trend of younger athletes entering the industry and the average NBA player age of 26 years. In essence, Salley emphasizes that while there may be outliers like LeBron, it is still more beneficial for the industry to herald younger athletes.

[@patrickbateman4208]

Vlad in the last couple of years has actually began to think we tune in for him

[@smoove0ne]

💀

[@KJ-gr6ho]

Money can fool the weak

[@normp3273]

The only father and son playing together that I can think of was in Major League Baseball. And that was Griffey Sr and Griffey Jr playing on the same team. What a privilege that was!

[@Mo_TheGhost]

AND they both had homers in the same game! 🔥

[@tommyfu9271]

Tim Raines and Tim Raines Jr did as well very briefly.

[@normp3273]

@@tommyfu9271 Seriously? I didn't know that. Thanks! 👍

[@tommyfu9271]

@@normp3273 yea Raines Sr went back to the expos at the end of his career. his son was on the orioles. both teams were out of it at the end of the season so the Expos traded Raines Sr to the orioles with a few games left in the season so he could play with his son.

[@kappaman1994]

Also Cecil Fielder & Cecil Fielder Jr.

[@rgalv3]

Vlad can't go one interview without bringing the subject back about him lol

[@Rqs79]

The median age for current NBA players is right at 26 years old. My cousin played 3 years in the NBA(He was a late second round draft pick), which is pretty close to the average NBA career(he has played overseas since. Mostly in China and the Euroleague). There is a TON of NBA players who with 1 game NBA careers.

[@bigfleece]

Who’s your cousin?

[@dailyhunter3683]

​@@bigfleeceVlad, perhaps?🤔

[@ExposetheManosphere]

I met one guy who was a former NBA player. He didn't tell me that he only played for 10 games then was cut.

[@timmytube12]

I remember watching him on BET as far back as (2000) and (2003) . His late nite talk show was funny back in the day.😮❤

[@1990758]

Exactly and some guy was asking me where is this podcast? I never said he had a podcast he had a tv show.

[@kote2022]

Ken Griffey jr played in the MLB with his dad for the same team

[@randallross420]

The Griffeys were the best 🙏

[@kevinwilliams8375]

They was talking bout nba

[@tommyfu9271]

so did Tim Raines and Tim Raines Jr. (who sucked.)

[@conditionallyunconditional5691]

Cal Ripken Sr managed with Cal Jr. Its similar.

[@tommyfu9271]

@@conditionallyunconditional5691 that's happened with other people too like Yogi Berra managing Dale Berra. But it's way easier for a manager to manage his son than play with him.

[@zeroturn7091]

Salley ain’t lying about the shoe game. I remember being sick when I couldn’t cop Lebron 12s, now his shoes don’t even sell out anymore.

[@Camefromnone]

Lebron got trash shoes, kids want kyries kds, lamelos, ant Edward’s, Ja’s

[@Camefromnone]

@@timothyrobinson3938 nobody said it’s lebrons fault, his shoes are just ugly

[@jumpman366]

These new shoes just cant top jordans my man

[@jamesjohnson9348]

I remember John Salley and I had this conversation at a furniture store in DTLA over 20 years ago.

[@Joebreeze100]

Salley was riding the bench the last half of his career

[@Amick44]

Exactly. It was fine when it was him.

[@heudriss]

Interesting how many people criticize Vlad but we still love his content. And not just his guests, because when he has other interviewers it does not do the same numbers. So obviously, we like to hear Vlad interact with the guests

[@earlyriser5220]

My brother in Christ NOBODY cares about Vlads perspective 🤧 Do you think Ppl care what Adam silver thinks while they’re watching an NBA game? Vlad should jus focus on who he brings on that’s all we need

[@wsmokr]

​@@earlyriser5220Funny thing is all you still watch Vlad.Bitch about some sorry reason yet you will watch every single interview he does and you will listen to every single word he says.

[@patrickbateman4208]

We do...but we dont give a fck about him so much

[@VCthaGOATdunker]

@@earlyriser5220 It's called "Hate-watching" . You may not "care" or whatever you claim about him, but you're still watching.

[@crosswiz6]

Imagine watching a late night talk show host interview someone and interject to talk about his business expenses and dealings..thats vlad

[@CJ-vh2hf]

We know the definition of narcissist, but have you ever seen an individual who no matter what the subject is they make it about them, If VLAD really wants to profit more. He should just get one camera and a mirror and interview his self because he makes every segment aboutVlad

[@mbison8586]

Who is Brad?

[@Intelx]

I was just about to say this very thing!!! Dude will always find a way to make an interview about himself no matter what. No decorum.

[@firststep.boomswish]

Are you a narcissistic bot? Seen that comment many times. Gtfoh

[@nonchalantjo]

Facts... The nigga Vlad must only talk abt himself to his bitches... 🤣 lame with money 🤣

[@willwin43]

Weirdo ALWAYS switches it back to his weirdo self. The guest know this and THINK this while they talking but just are being polite

[@THE_Dodge_Morningstar]

I can understand a league wanting to churn through players, even limiting athletic careers to only 4 or 5 prime years. There's logic to it, but as long rookie contracts are restricted, I hope athletes try to clean the owners out at every opportunity.

[@davruck1]

Other business moved to the same model. They only want people there 4-5 most. After that it’s usually diminishing returns on pay

[@jaseallenson316]

Its mos def not good for quality of the game nor gor young players to not have some ogs around.

[@andremiller1566]

​@@davruck1 Nonsense. This league is built on legends. You're not a legend in 4 or 5 years. Wilt, Bill, Mike, Kobe, Bird, etc. Their long storied careers are benchmarks and generational markers. The leagues very legitimacy is built on having talent that individuals attach to. Older fans still scream Jordan.

[@davruck1]

@@andremiller1566 bro wtf are you talking about? 3% of players are stars. The rest produce diminishing returns. There a handful of stars and journeymen. Everyone else is gone before they can get a big contract. I swear Vlad has the most remedial fans and commenters

[@andremiller1566]

@@davruck1 Pick a random team and go through the roster. If it has a bunch of players under 22 it's trash. Every decent team is full of players who've signed 2 or more contracts. That's most of the league. And fuck Vlad.

[@TrappinEveryZip]

Major props to Sal hoodie as well ✊🏾

[@everybodywannabelikemike_]

Everybody has a podcast it’s crazy

[@oladeebiazazi4538]

Very crazy it’s oversaturated now

[@Virtualcritic111]

@@oladeebiazazi4538duh

[@1990758]

Exactly but everybody can't get a tv show. Everybody on a podcast is an expert about life.

[@wsmokr]

​@@1990758TV shows are basically beneath podcasts nowadays.A lot of people today do not watch tv at all.

[@Bidness100]

@@oladeebiazazi4538💯

[@MikeDubD]

We need more Big Tray Deee interviews

[@CalculatedLife1122]

OG used to have me weak

[@terrellsuggs4837]

Hanging on avg 25 is crazy Glad

[@blakebarberi4828]

Good job Vlad. Enjoyed this. John is good at explaining the why's and history of NBA. I'm glad he explained that Mike thing. 🙏🙏

[@randallross420]

John Salley is a national treasure.

[@vladtv]

Watch the full interview now as a VladTV KZbin Member - kzbin.infojoin

[@crosswiz6]

No

[@WawaMarvel]

I disagree. If you’re good as a player at 26, you will be just fine.

[@kenstevens7855]

True. As long as you don't have a major injury, you can get a good 12+ years in without any issues. That's if you have the talent.

[@davidpham8324]

Vlad comparing what he does to what professional athletes do ? SMH sometimes their bodies can’t take it anymore

[@emprodabobplays]

He stay inserting what he does as if he's the barometer of what people can and can't do based off his experience 🥴🥴

[@tonymontez2358]

Vlad is a narcissist he knows damn well him interviewing people for his KZbin channel isn’t the same as running a company like Nike lmao 🤣

[@wsmokr]

​@@tonymontez2358So if he bothers you so much why do you watch his interviews???If someone annoys me I stop watching them.

[@tonymontez2358]

@@wsmokr I wanted to hear what John salley has to say, I’m here to hear what the person being interviewed has to say idc about what vlad thinks he needs to go back to just asking questions and letting the guest answer instead of over talking and talking about himself

[@wsmokr]

@@tonymontez2358 So why bother watching it?? Could have stopped watching the moment you realized it annoyed you,no??

[@samuelbillups804]

Rolle is the best example of success through the life of football.. all that money , people and the NFL haven't developed a player billionaire.. not talking owner but billionaire.. white or black... Dr. Rolle is the NFL diamond in the rough

[@zachw225]

It will be like Ken Griffey Sr. & Ken Griffey Jr. of the MLB..

[@NEWJERSEY_K]

That's exactly what I was thinking

[@yrnx9334]

Bronny wont be as good as griffey was compared to his dad tho

[@tommyfu9271]

the difference is Griffey Jr was a great baseball player and Lebron's kid wouldn't be an NBA prospect if he wasn't Lebron's kid.

[@BasketballBusinessAndBossMoves]

Enjoy Sal for his smile and nostalgia. But don’t take a word he says as facts!!! This man could have never been a good reporter. He is anti-facts.

[@bigyu3529]

Thank you fam. I'm listening to him spit hot garbage. The NBA loves the fact that stars like LBJ and Steph are still in the league.

[@LANCEp12]

Basketball wise Prime is between 27-33ish 35 is when that body is basically old old

[@jonthomson9262]

Naw,peak years are from 24 to 27 or 28..........prime is usually over between 30-32 years old. 33 is already old.

[@2cents2]

You guys are talking about the business side of things though. I think if anyone in sports in general is playing well,their health is good and they still have passion for what they do then age shouldn't matter. He's basically saying since LeBron is older he should retire because other younger players merchandise isn't selling as good,it just doesn't make sense on a skill and talent point of view.

[@2cents2]

@@oneskillpoint4669 It's not about celebrating these guys it's about how they are still performing at their age. If the athlete still feels they still got it and the stats prove they are still able to currently compete then there shouldn't be a reason why they shouldn't play,if anything it should motivate the younger players to do better at what they do. That's how legends are made and that's why fans still cheer these older guys because they still preform at an elite level. Now if you're talking about merchandise not being equally sold than that's no longer a topic of sports it's a topic of business.

[@kappaman1994]

Cecil Fielder & Cecil Fielder Jr. Played ⚾️ *Together* … They Were A *Dynamic* _Duo_ *!!!*

[@apprentessgooden2680]

Ken Griffey Sr and Jr played together

[@WarriorsforInfoTV]

Salls high off that OG Glaze

[@esimpson31828]

26 IS NOT PAST YOUR PRIME IN ANY SPORT, ITS ACTUALLY THE REAL START OF YOUR PRIME!! 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@biggdogg33]

that depend on which sports and position. gymnastic is a sport that young people dominate. at 26 youre toasted on the women side. RB prime is 21-22 and out of it at 25 if you rely on speed and explosive. Esports, you out your prime at 23.

[@Mo_TheGhost]

Esports? 😂👎🏾

[@b9479]

​@@biggdogg33 Yep and if a running is able to play until he's 30, he's very lucky, that's 7-8 years long career

[@DraconusStar]

@@b9479i can see that. Kids got so much more time to devote because they have less responsibilities. Just in their parents house gaming all day. And more ahead of the curve on what's hot at the moment before an older person who has to research.

[@LaCheleWallace]

Interesting. See, I always thought that it was all about the talent and ability. I feel bad for the players that didn't reach they maximum potential due to injuries. My main man, Mr. Penny Hardaway always comes to mind. All of that hard work and dedication for it to end so abruptly. The same thing happens in the music industry. They use you and give you the world, but once that 3 - 5 year window is up, they kick you to the curb like a redhead stepchild. Agencies are always looking & booking ahead for the next wave of talent. I believe that knowledgeable players should transition into the commentator field. I've learned that there are a lot of lil' funny politics within the NBA. If you didn't play exactly like Mr. Jordan then you may as well just leave it alone.

[@JMPL3180]

That hoodie fire!

[@robertgomez1193]

Love the sweater

[@DavidChieh-ye8df]

David's already popular...

[@robertgomez1193]

@@DavidChieh-ye8dfsmh, not u! 😂

[@darrylnelson05]

Thats not what average means Vlad. The median is point where hald are above and half are below.

[@BlueBeefTv]

Complete conversation about basketball and only basketball. Vlad, yeah man thats sounds like me

[@danielussat1071]

If you are good enough you play, if not you have to leave. Age shouldn`t matter.

[@KatoOnTheTrack1]

Nike Golf had been over. It was done summer 2016. I was working corporate at WHQs and everyone went to to the employee store to buy out whatever was left.

[@arlichar11]

its what the nba needs... and its unfair to guys who done paid dues to be given up on so quick for unproven kids

[@kisuryouri334]

facts

[@jamaenealy5594]

You bring 16 years into business has WHAT to do with the sports conversation …

[@Anime_44_Love]

I'm sorry but I gotta keep it real. Bronny as of RIGHT NOW (USC College stats) IS NOT NBA MATERIAL. He was nice his senior year of high school, because his athleticism grew and his jumper got a bit better, but I'm sorry to say that now that he's at a higher level of competition, college athletes are exposing him and he's really not all that good so far. He could always eventually adapt and improve but right now, there are some games he can't even score in and most of the time he's not starting. Don't know if Bronny will even make it to the NBA.

[@JasonLandsdown-ss3ew]

Maybe there needs to be a first for father son duo playing in the NBA. It's not like they will be on the same team. They are just that good.

[@Steelers4life68]

I run like 6 miles a day, but am taking a break. I feel like running helps longgevity. It helps with stamina, immune system, mood, prob many other things, but running aint fun, not at first, not until you get great stamina.

[@devinconsla2540]

I used to get that runners high and it was the best thing ever, then I kept going and got real bad shin splits pretty sure I’m healed now but haven’t got the motivation to start again. Think I might now 💪

[@leedza]

Vlad aint lying, his platform ain't as getting views as before. A lot channels have suffered the same fate.

[@travisepps75]

Vladtv is the only platform I watch that doesn't have sponsors

[@GameguyAdvancedSp]

This dude just Talking - Nike still has Golf 😂😂😂 tf he think we stupid ?

[@rich5882]

3 years is good imo. The best athletes in your state/city don’t have a chance at going to the league so for them to make it and stay 3 years is awesome.

[@CedRockStarr]

How could John Salley think that the average age in the NBA is 22 years old though? That doesn’t even make any sense. It’s just MATH. 🤔

[@goodnighthummingbird7861]

Show your math

[@jordanmcnair1061]

You click the video to hear the guest perspective on a subject and vlad ruins it everytime talking about him smh i’m done 😂😂

[@Claytonjohnson96]

Vlad was talking crazy about Kobe after he passed to Nick

[@johnbrownjr371]

Vlad once again injecting himself into a conversation. Your analogy about your business vs an NBA career is totally unfounded.

[@BadgerBJJ]

Vlad is wrong… the AVERAGE doesn’t mean half under, half over. That’s the MEDIAN. The average in the NBA is skewed by a small amount of players playing into their late 30s.

[@Keepurheadup7]

I think advertising is overrated, people going to buy what they want to buy regardless of the commercial 🤔🤔🤔

[@1990758]

Exactly, because a lot of n b a phave their own shoes, but most people are wearing jordans. I've never seen anybody where lebron sneakers. Can't remember the last time I seen anybody wear kobe sneakers. Buying them and wearing them are two different things.

[@flyguy7825]

I'm beyond sick and tired of people using the NBA as an excuse for everything or to make it as if it's an NBA problem

[@wsmokr]

Explain

[@THEREALLORDJ]

🥱

[@samuelbillups804]

All ways the Best Interview

[@leedza]

Rashard said the most important thing. He knew he had a purpose beyond football and it was just a vehicle. That meant he spent/saved his money knowing he was making his way out. other payers think it will last forever.

[@user-qr4gm2wq7q]

Sports illustrated ❤

[@K33_catchingplays]

At this point Vlad U might as well let one of your guest interview you on on Vlad tv

[@patrickcollins1855]

Baseball is the only sport you can play for 20 years and still have health to play another five. They stopped pushing baseball in the Urban schools in the 90s. Yet, they push football and basketball in the Urban schools. Very short-lived sports. Baseball players get paid better and have 20 year careers. I noticed this year's ago. Everything is by design in the country. That's the truth.

[@dantheman8152]

Vlad you wild

[@user-ft6wo8rs5g]

It happened in MLB.

[@Pop_Richie]

Ok, the flashbacks in the interview are getting worst yo, it’s time to stop Glad!! Smh..

[@mikeramirez8108]

I was listening to the football players interview but didn’t see it. Seeing this little snippet of it. Man I hope he’s ok. All the um and pauses he has is very concerning for his brain health.

[@LeeePowers]

Just like Casey Stoner in Moto Gp. He retires at 26 after 2 world titles,with 2 differnt factories.(Honda+Ducati) I hope hes doing well with his Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. 🙏🏽

[@MrDreskee03]

And people think championships matter once you get there. That's why I don't mind players like Carmelo just playing for money because just getting there is hard enough.

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

Sports Illustrated: Go woke, Go broke 💀😂

[@branch621]

Um ah, um, football is like um, uh like thats, um, more, uh , important um, uh ....................🤦🏽

[@theecharmingbilly]

Make the show about your guests, how about that innovation!?

[@mikeramirez8108]

Also people got tired of hearing vlad in every interview. That’s why he has a lot of different interviewers now

[@vaevae8695]

3 -5 years not long enough and it’s sad they went through all that just to play in the nba for a few years smh

[@christianraines3032]

Exactly all that work your whole life for those few years

[@yct2.0]

@@christianraines3032that’s a least a minimum of 2 millions dollars

[@willialj]

Podcasting is here to stay. It is presently, the only way for fans and anti-fans to get information about people they are interested in without corporate filters. Unfortunately, the truth is podcast hosts are not perfect interviewers and therefore eventually show their personal biases as well as their personality flaws during the life of their channel. To call VLAD a narcissist because he references himself a lot is a little harsh for the reputation he has established. We all gravitate to information mediums that we think gives us the stuff we want to hear the way we want to hear it. REM: Don't hate the player, hate the game....

[@AdamLovesHorror]

I’m a lifelong Pistons fan and always appreciated Salley but does he know we can fact check him? At 36, nobody wanted him for anything if significance.

[@cnote729]

Vlad had to do things to change, but still got the same background of a drum set....lol But as far as gymshoes trying to sell Ja Morant shoes, retire LeBron shoes, stopped producing golf shoes, Jordan shoes are king!!!

[@3louminati]

Big John is a good dude!

[@MrGHawaii]

"Mean" and "Average" are not the same thing. If the "average" age is 26 than the "mean" is a different number.

[@Olsa]

Yo Vlad. Sorry man I just have to. No, average age 26 does not mean half is over and half is under. The definition of that is median. Big difference sir.

[@ILLAILLS]

Nike Golf isn’t leaving

[@goodfellabeats]

Bruh no one cares about your business strategy Vlade! You not the only one with a business. Stop making things about you.

[@phillipcotton833]

Unless you cap off( won't happen) the league with an age limit, you're not gonna see " young" teams win NBA titles. It's usually a healthy balance of young players of 3- 6 years experience with " old heads" who know how to play.

[@TheArtOfDean]

Shorter career than the NFL. Didn't expect to ever read that.

[@Scoop-rm9er]

Scottie boy played wit a couple of his step daddies 😂😂

[@bhibhas9433]

Average in age and career is different things, i think.

[@tiawankennerly]

3 and half year? That must be because it's been players who had career injuries, other than that the average got to be like maybe 10 because players today only do one year in college and they're gone to the NBA. So they basically start off playing at like 18 or 19 years old, and most don't become a star until sometime their early 20s. John smoke too damn much

[@tari8134]

Most players don't make it in the NBA. It's extremely difficult to stay after your first contract. They're competing against the best players in the entire world for a spot on a roster. The average is literally 4.5 years.

[@mikko3]

There is alot of people come in and go out after few months, that lowers the average

[@Joelcarter22]

3 -4 years we never would have had curry or Kobe or giannis

[@RicoSoprano_]

You definitely a casual and wrong af. It’s no where near 10 year average. Dudes get in the league and sometimes get sent straight to the g league after 15 games. Then you got plenty dudes who never resign after the first contract. Y’all niggas don’t watch basketball fr

[@RicoSoprano_]

@@Joelcarter22you talking about superstars dumbazz. The average nba player yo casual ass probably never heard of

[@bennyfam9550]

26 isn’t your prime. No age is your prime. Your prime is when you have figured it out/your best years. Case in point Ben Simmons, and Malcolm Bronson had their best years early on

[@xman9190]

These guys don't make sense. If old LeBron is not good for the NBA, why are his games on in prime time instead of Scoot Henderson and Scottie Barnes? Also, average age does not mean half are above and half below. That's the definition of median age.

[@305youtuber]

if that man can continue to play, then let the man play, my gosh! ✋😳🤚 there's always needless comments by those that can't or didn't play as long as others

[@fepowell274]

Vlad, the median is the actual middle number not the average

[@CaneCorsoShow]

If you take care of your body, you can play until 45......... Your prime is not until like 34-39 depending on your genetics. If your genetics & sports IQ are just better than most people, like Lebron's genes and IQ............ his 'coming down' is another 5 to 10 years after that 39.......... He could probably do it until 50 and still be above most players of NBA

[@ronald8071]

Lol prime in sports is 24 26 tops

[@CaneCorsoShow]

for those who do drugs, drink party @@ronald8071

[@ZackIAm]

@@ronald8071depends on the sport and position For basketball, it's 26-32 For baseball it's usually much longer Same for Football (soccer)

[@dipflipping]

VLAD will always find sway to talk about hisself… 😂

[@justin313rdallday]

Kyrie Kd Kawhi Westbrook Harden Etc… are all over 30

[@Doyouevenart69]

That’s sooooo not true what he said about They’re trying to sell Ja Morants and not LeBrons they are 100% ABSOLUTELY selling more LeBron shoes than Ja’s he’s just objectively wrong

[@coolreg6395]

Why are they still selling Lebron if it's not good to elevate old players

[@kurtiscurtis8102]

Agin here we go it’s always vlad talking not asking questions explaining things I’d say just do vlad show won’t have to pay people no more just do a show about yiur self I’d say the more money you’ve gotten the bigger your ego has got

[@AnthonyMason-cq9gi]

Then ExPLAIN MAGIC JOHNSON, MICHAEL JORDAN, JERRY WEST, AND BILL RUSSELL CAREER(HE PLAYED TILL HE WAS 45, AND WON 12 CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS).❤❤❤❤

[@MrGHawaii]

Lebron, Steph and KD are all closer to 40 than 30.

[@cordell3182]

Bruh kept saying um

[@Overgas45]

Its crazy how nowadays being past 25 is starting to be considered old. You would think the human life span is 40 lol. Im 20 btw

[@destincolling6944]

Why do Vlad act like we here to hear about him ?????

[@bigjigg5672]

😮‍💨😮‍💨 -F'n VLAD & "I know, just when i did blah blah blah blah........." He DESTROYS the entertainment aspect of the interviews. He's his own STRONGEST HATER.💯

[@varsitygraphix2407]

This man just compared a stripper to an occupation where REAL work is done… a stripper just has to keep her diet tight. And even some cases they ain’t gotta do that lol

[@Coldheartedsteppaz]

Definitely not the average nba time

[@darrengordon-hill]

SANE PERSON!! I said this not 2 days ago. Mass response? "LeBron still gets sta

[@WawaMarvel]

Nobody in their right mind was really trying to buy lebron sneakers lol. Ja morant sneakers …. Only 1 kid in the school I teach cared enough to get a pair .