Watercool Heatkiller RTX 4090 Founders Edition Water Block Thermals Install Undervolt Testing Unbox

Watercool Heatkiller RTX 4090 Founders Edition Water Block Thermals Install Undervolt Testing Unbox
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00:01 Intro
00:27 Unboxing
02:15 Water Block Installation
04:53 Custom Loop Fill
05:39 Testing
05:56 [Chart] Core Temperature
06:06 [Chart] Memory Temperature
07:01 [Chart] Power
07:13 [Chart] FPS
07:26 Outro
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[@Kaymen1980]

This was a great video. Everything I wanted to know. I'm looking at heat killer for my next build.

[@smallz2495]

Precut thermal pads… what a concept

[@vectornetwork]

Please enjoy watching 🙏

[@charltonhmumo6759]

Im just waiting for a new video! Vector Network is GOLD!!!

[@memey7442]

u guys really are worth at least 100000 subscribers

[@vectornetwork]

Thank you for your comment 🙏 and woa that gave me a big adrenaline rush there. That is a nice thought but I am more than happy to continue to do my best for the 500 or so people we have here, thank you and thanks for watching!

[@Frostedmig]

Loved this video. Specific instructions for the exact block i'm getting

[@JCustom]

Lots of effort here. Deserves much more attention

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment 🙏Thank you brother for your kind words. And you're totally right on. I wanted to whole thing to have a certain standard. It a lot of work and endless effort, but I am getting used to it. I will continue to make the videos better and make more of them. Thanks again!

[@bearsdidit]

Thanks for the video! It was quite helpful with my install due to several ommissions made by Watercool.

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment 🙏 It's very satisfying to hear that the video had helped. I agree that the instructions could have been better in some areas. Thanks again for watching and commenting

[@SethKnows]

Just ordered an Optimus Rev1 block for the Strix 4090. I have an FE i was considering for the HK block, but i love the build quality of the Optimus products!

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment 🙏Right on! I have been waiting for the Optimus 4090 FE water block for nearly 1 year. I believe they announced it was coming Jan 2023. Still waiting to finally try one of their GPU blocks and will get it when they release it (don't have a 4090 Strix or TUF) and a video on it. I do like their CPU blocks (Foundation and Signature) and like their fittings. I am on the fence on their reservoirs. Heatkiller is all-around and has many offerings CPU/GPU blocks, Reservoirs and Radiators and the MORA. They just need some in-house fittings. I hope both Optimus and Watercool continue to grow and offer new products. Thanks again for your comment and thanks for watching

[@erin_catto]

Awesome to see a review of the HK block. I'd love to see some commentary and comparisons of various blocks and water cooling parts. By the way, do you know if the HK block works with a 90 degree adapter (cablemod)? Some of these 4090 blocks have recessed power slots.

[@vectornetwork]

Thank you for your comment 🙏You're right on point. I am considering a "roundup" type of video where I compare the thermals across all the 4090 cooling solutions I have tested on this channel. I have the data to compare the 4090 FE stock cooler, 4090 FE Bitspower water block, 4090 FE Heatkiller water block, 4090 Reference Alphacool water block. I would try to reuse some of the better shots from each episode and consolidate into a single video with new charts. It would be my first go at it so I would expect some of the pacing and commentary to have improvements over time. It if turns out good/useful, then I could do a similar roundup for the RTX 4080, since I have tested about 4 cooling solutions for that one too. I am currently working on a PC build video (4090 FE with HK block and HK reservoir, black EVO, AM5 system with 7800x3D). As for the 90 degree adapter and the recessed power slots, I took a look at the HK block with PCB attached and it doesn't seem too recessed. I then checked the HK compatibility and it appears this HK V Pro water block will be okay with Cablemod's "Adapter A". Hope that helps.

[@paskowitz]

One thing that would be good to see is a graph showing the temperature delta (y axis) in relation to power draw (y axis) over time (x axis). Then show min/max/avg (individual and relative). Knowing the flow rate would also be good info as this can impact deltas. I have the same block but used kingpin KPX paste and am getting slightly better temps. At 500w peak power consumption in 3Dmark Port Royal 4k I was getting a delta of 18° C. At 450w it was around 16c. At 375-425w (gaming load) i was getting 10-14c. This was at a flow rate of 115 L/h. You may want to check your TIM spread. I used the spread method. Also, I'm not a huge fan of Kryonaut. The initial performance is fine, but I find over time that it degrades faster than other TIMs.

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment 🙏and thank you for the information you provided. I am interested to explore the suggestions you made with regard to the graphs and showing 2 items on the Y axis over time and then showing the mix/max/avg. I do have all the data and this would be in replacement of the averages or in addition to? I have never done any of this type of testing before I developed this current methodology. It's not perfect, so I am happy to learn more and potentially improve it. Also, I do agree with your suggestions with regards to the paste and flow rates. Good eye there as you sort of identified the areas that weren't as clear cut, if that makes sense. For the flow rate, I have an Aquacomputer Next Sensor that I procured specifically for this build and I just couldn't figure out a good location with it (I also have another smaller Aquacomputer flow rate monitor that didn't seem right in any position either). I didn't want to force it to so not having a flow rate was a compromise. For the paste, I do think there are other options that can perform better than the Noctua NT-H2. I simply use it to be consistent. Its sort of why I do the same X paste. I also have a lot of the paste as I really like those Noctua wipes and those come with the paste and the thermal guards. However, I do think changing it up can be beneficial, so I may change up paste and/or methods too. The X was purely for something visually interesting. I'm not sure if smoothing the paste out to a thin layer would be interesting but I think it could be. Hope that helps.

[@zehaoyu9401]

Nice content! I am also looking for a WB for my 4090FE and I am considering either heatkiller or alphacool CORE. The thing that stops me from HK is that I saw the liquid gets in between the nickel plate and acrylic (off the water channels tho). I saw that from ur video as well, in the channel part, the coolant looks red, and some coolant gets in between somewhere else and looks pink. I am a bit concerned about this. For alphacool, I am just not sure if it performs as good as HK and I don’t really like the look or say ratio of their FE block…

[@vectornetwork]

Thank you for your comment 🙏I haven't yet tested the alphacool CORE, although I do have one on order for the Asus TUF 4080. I plan on doing a video when that arrives. I am working on a full build video that includes the HK block. I had to take it completely apart to clean it as the red dye wasn't coming out. I ran some mayhems blitz phase 2 and that marginally reduced the red. I do you think you may see liquid/bubbles get in between the plate and acrylic (but not past the o-rings) on a variety of different models and not only the HK. Hope that helps

[@paskowitz]

This happens on pretty much every single type of block.

[@JB-bi5vt]

Did you remove the plastic horseshoe guides from the back of the pcb on purpose? Would you consider this an issue? Worries that nvidia would say its danage and refuse warranty. Cheers, great vid

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment🙏Good eye to see those plastic horseshoes. I did remove them on purpose. If I had seen them, I would have removed them earlier and have them not shown for the footage. They had to be removed for the backplate to be installed. I did keep them an intend to put them back if/when I reinstall the NVIDIA stock cooler. I do think that much of what I do would void the warranty but that doesn't really deter me. It is likely that everyone's situation is a bit different. Hope that helps.

[@JB-bi5vt]

@vectornetwork I managed to leave them on, just finished my installation. I had this video playing on repeat whilst I fit mine so thanks for the help. Much more informative than the manual. Keep up the good work

[@vectornetwork]

@@JB-bi5vt Thank you friend. I am pretty stoked to hear that the video helped and that you watched it more than once. That's so awesome! But wait, you were able to keep the horseshoes on? Wouldn't they be too tall for the backplate? I do recall that the thermal pads were rather thick, but I don't think they were thick enough to be taller than the plastic horseshoes. But then again, I didn't 100% check.

[@bdub4899]

Hi nice video I had a question are there any issues with the metal washers put on the back I was reading by some seemed concern about them as just curious how is the focus water-block compared to EKWB’s water-block? I’m asking cause I’m torn between this card and that one?

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment 🙏 If I recall correctly, the metal washers (without rewatching the video) are foam/sticky soft material underneath. So, it's not like metal directly on the PCB. I have to re-watch to be 100% sure though. As for your water block question, what is the "focus water-block" you're referring to? If it's a Heatkiller block, then I would recommend HK. For lower priced (and higher priced) blocks, there are other companies I would initially lean towards before EK. Hope that helps.

[@bdub4899]

@@vectornetworkHi Again I just wanted to say thank you for your help in not only going with the heatkiller but also the instructions video you made on how to assemble it. I have a 4080 FE but the directions are pretty much the same and am happy with the block thanks again

[@JaytheP]

Which of the 4090FE blocks do you like the best?

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment 🙏Good question and I have been thinking about it. I have only tried 3 FE blocks (Alphacool Eisblock, Bitspower Orion and Heatkiller V Pro), so my opinion will be limited to those. If I had to choose a favorite, it would be the Heatkiller one. I have tried a HK block for the 3080, so I wasn't surprised by the quality of the block. Something noticeable for me was the installation felt more secure and repeatable. This does not mean the other brands are not secure, this is simply an incremental difference. The Alphacool Eisblock is a terrific block. Alphacool upgraded their water blocks for this 40-series generation. Upgrades include chrome plating (marginally more resistant but it shines, almost like a mirror shine) and using one large black O-ring rather than 4 smaller ones. This leads to a cleaner look. Temps were right around expectation (actually a little better, temps were like HK temps). The Bitspower water block is most similar to Corsair. I actually thought I was sent a Corsair product at first glance. Both products seem like they are manufactured in Taiwan and share similarities in the boxing and the pre-applied thermal pads. There is a lot to like about the Bispower water block. It's a simple block and has the terminals on the side. For instructions, they are found on their website and not in the box. I am likely doing a Optimus water block (Rev.2) episode for the 4090 Strix and that will likely be the best block available for any card at the moment. If that happens, I will be doing a 4090 Strix episode before that. Hope that helps!

[@minibotpc]

Did you remove the plastic guides on the back of the pcb????

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment🙏I did. I see you noticed I removed them without showing it on camera. This is the second time someone was sort of surprised I did so. I don't see how I can get the backplate on the card with those plastic horseshoes still in place (I kept them of course for if I want to reinstall the stock cooler). Those plastic guides are much taller than the 2mm for the backplate, so I had to remove them. Hope that helps

[@juninhocale4044]

hi bro, what's the best block you've tested?great content friend

[@vectornetwork]

Thank you for your comment 🙏Good question my friend. The best block I have tested so far is likely the Heatkiller V Pro block for the RTX 4090 FE. I have tested another Heatkiller block for the RTX 3080 and was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the build of the HK block. So, I wasn't surprised when I received and tested the HK V Pro block. I had to take the block completely apart recently as I am working on a full PC build using the HK block and the red dye from the video wasn't coming off by simply flushing it with Mayhems Blitz Phase 2. So, after taking the water block apart, cleaning it, putting it back together (did get all the footage, seeing if it's worth adding it in the build), I have to say that I feel comfortable doing that over and over again with the same block and screws provided. I would feel comfortable installing, uninstalling and reinstalling the same HK block over and over again on cards, using the same materials (not thermal pads or paste of course). Having said that, I haven't yet tried Optimus GPU blocks. I have tried their CPU blocks and I find them to be outstanding. On the same level or higher than the HK. One subtle difference is that their CPU block can be installed all without a screwdriver (just by hand). I do plan on testing an Optimus GPU block one day. Hope that helps

[@juninhocale4044]

@@vectornetwork it took a bit of work, really, HK is very good, I researched a lot about it and the reports are great, optimus even though it is a first class block too, it is very difficult to find, there are almost no comparisons with it, and I believe that the difference between one and the other is not great since both are top notch, but I love videos like that of comparisons, I've seen your videos several times, congratulations again for the content, I hope you gain more recognition

[@Rashimotosan]

​@@vectornetworkwhat other blocks have you tested by comparison?

[@vectornetwork]

​@@Rashimotosan Thanks for your comment 🙏 For the RTX 4090 Founders Edition, I have tested the Bitspower and Heatkiller blocks. For the RTX 4090 PNY (reference), I have tested the Alphacool Eisblock. ​For the RTX 4080 ASUS TUF, I have tested the EKWB Vector2, Bykski and I am in process of finishing the next video, which will be of the Alphacool Core for the 4080 TUF. Hope that helps

[@scoptimizations]

From where do I get this Benchtable? It looks bonkers.

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment 🙏 I put the name of the Test Bench below. It is more expensive than others. It came across the ocean (I'm in California, USA) and took a few weeks. I really second-guessed my order during this time. Having said that, when I received it, I knew I made the right decision. The pieces are nice thick aluminum. EDIY Open Air ATX PC Frame HTPC Water Cooling Test Bench Aluminum Case Bare Overclocking DIY Computer Support Graphics Card, Silver

[@dnsean03]

Would this waterblock help reduce coil whine, 4090 fe has horrid buzz and coil whine.. I have rma'd twice on my 3rd.. still bad.. im using the corsair xg7 tho

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment 🙏 From my experience, when testing the stock cooler on an open air test bench, I do remember noticeable coil whine on both the 4090FE and 4080TUF. I don't recall it on the 4090PNY. I still have all three cards and they are all in water blocks and I currently do not notice coil whine on the cards. Did the coil whine occur with the stock cooler or with the Corsair water block? Were you able to RMA 2x after you put the block on it?

[@dnsean03]

@@vectornetwork stock and xg7 corsair block.. no difference just very bad, I tried adding more thermal pads as well heh.. rma I put back stock in USA they can't enforce not changing cooler as long as it comes back stock

[@vectornetwork]

Hm, it's a tough one. The path of least resistance would be to keep the current card and it's possible that the coil whine will lessen over time and you will get used to it more. I would focus on the performance of the 4090, rather than some electrical noise that comes from something so powerful. The other option would be to continue returning the card in hopes of receiving one with less noise. It is something that you have tried already 2x. Maybe third time's the charm or simply get use to it and maybe it goes away. Tough one, your choice of course. Hope that helps

[@dnsean03]

@@vectornetwork won't 1st 8 had 6 months, didn't notice as much since was in my older case under my desk, once I spent money on custom wall mount (which would have costed 530 to return FedEx out of the country) thats when you really notice it.. so im still paying for a case I can't use and the noise is so much forces migraines and headaches

[@feardrake9]

Any chance u would get an Optimus waterblock

[@vectornetwork]

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Yes, Optimus is coming up. I have been waiting to get an Optimus GPU block. I have two 4090s and Optimus doesn't make a block for either of them (yet). They have a block for the Strix/Tuf. I already have the 4080 Tuf and I wasn't sure on getting a 4090 Strix. Having said that, Optimus is expected to release their GPU block for the Founders Edition within 1 or 2 months. Once that is released, I'll make sure to do a video on it. I'll be able to directly compare it to the Heatkiller block since it'll be using the same card. In addition, I have the Optimus Signature v3 AM5 CPU block arriving soon. That will likely be the next video out. Hope that helps

[@feardrake9]

@@vectornetwork Looking forward to it!

[@MrPruske]

graphs ar e a little hard to read at a glance

[@vectornetwork]

Thank you for your comment 🙏I do recognize there is a lot of information on the screen for the 10 seconds that the graph is shown. Do you think it benefits to show the graphs for longer or to have less information on the screen? I did have timestamped links to each of the graphs in the description, so if someone want to see the graph, they can click and then pause. I hope you can provide some more feedback as I want to improve the video for the audience. Thanks again.