We Stan Friendship | Civ V: Tiny Wars Episode #5

As things calm down a little bit, there's time for some random banter. Everyone's upgrading their cities, or getting new ones - sometimes at the expense of the city-state "friends".
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[@gwonbusH]

Duncan really is the only player who recognizes that you can just lie. Of course, everyone else knows that about him now.

[@alfernee]

Atleast Rythian is able to expose his lies with the edits now 😂

[@Thoran666]

Lewis is constantly lying about how strong his cities are. He talks like a weeb but punches like an ogre.

[@iain-duncan]

​@@Thoran666new alternative to float like a butterfly sting like a bee unlocked

[@gajbooks]

He is learning from the traitorous Spiff

[@Obscurite1221]

Duncan has to lie because he knows that Lewis will play worse if he thinks he's ahead of Duncan, whereas if Lewis views Duncan as a threat, he'll immediately start prioritizing shitting on Duncan as hard as he can because again, both of them know that there's only one real opponent in these matches. (As much as I enjoy the entertainment and influence the others have on the game, I just don't think they're competitive enough to win without both Lewis and Duncan killing each other)

[@nazamroth8427]

Rythian has possibly the most land of them all, and he is still on 2 cities...

[@BadVideoWatcher1]

Turn 88, two cities, and the second one is still working on a granary

[@jonathan2847]

Rythian is inverse Ben, he's bad at games.

[@Thoran666]

@@jonathan2847 You mean the Ben from TTT who's best role is getting killed as jester?

[@jonathan2847]

@@Thoran666 Okay, Ben is good at strategy games.

[@BodywiseMustard]

​@@jonathan2847They SAY he's good at strategy games, but I have never seen it.

[@okram2k]

Man I really wish Kirsty had yield icons on, her capitol would be certified bussin now that she has both Petra and Huey. 5 food and 2 culture from each lake tile, 3 production and 1 food from each of those desert hill tiles, 4 food, 1 production, 1 gold from each oasis! On this small map that's absolutely huge! Today's lesson: The Demographics screen. This screen is certainly important to keep an eye on and can really help you keep track of how well you are doing or how far behind you are but it's also full of incredibly deceiving information. Crop Yield, Manufactured Goods, and GNP are lifted directly from all of your empire's food, hammer, and gold production (note GNP is gross gold production without taking into account gold expenses) and is fairly reliable. Land only counts (as you might expect) owned land tiles and does not count lakes or sea tiles, which can favor inland players over coastal ones. Literacy is mostly reliable but you should remember there are not 100 techs in civ V so it will sometimes round up to increase by 2% per tech instead of 1% so it's not a hard read on exactly how much more tech someone has. Soldiers takes into account unit health, upgrades, and favors melee units over ranged in score so can be misleading as well. But the big one to absolutely not pay attention to is population, as pop calculation goes up exponentially per pop in a city, not per pop in the whole empire. So a single city with 30 pop will be counted as more than double 6 cities with 5 population. Player breakdown: Kirsty: Above the midlanders she continues to hammer out uncontested wonders. Huey is absolutely huge with 4 lake tiles, while the great lighthouse is meh for a non-coastal game. Once again she does not have enough workers, when I looked at her view I could only see three. There are tons of unimproved desert hill tiles around her capitol which, thanks to Petra, could be producing some huge yields. All of them are next to fresh water too so with farms and her having civil service each of those hills could be doing +3 food/+3 production instead of just 3 production, 1 food atm. Rythian: Normally I get extremely angry when Rythian goes exploration as a land civ and then spends all game settling all the islands while ignoring everyone else. In his current situation though, it's actually the right thing to do if he wants to expand. All of his settles outside his capitol have been coastal and if he hadn't thrown away wave after wave of his own men at Duncan early on he probably could have had a third coastal settle on the mainland easily. From what I've seen from his perspective there appears to be hints of islands around his territory but he hasn't really properly explored them yet. We'll see how it goes and if he runs into the dangers of over expansion slowing your game down. Duncan: So the Dali Llama has the ability to settle because originally in Lekmod Tibet could only settle new cities through their great prophets. It was a clunky mechanic that got phased out but the settle city option still remains for the unit. But why would you settle a city that any old settler could do instead of clicking the button that gives you a golden age? I don't think he understands just how big of a deal golden ages are and that this is one of the biggest buffs Tibet gives. Duncan's faith production is still very much nothing special at only +30. Bourbador is almost a criminal waste of hammers (you usually only build it if you have 7+ cities and low faith production) but maybe Daltos will let him send all those missionaries his way. Lewis: He is starting to realize how far behind he is in this game. Going Egypt and not building many wonders, and getting Notre Dame (when he is currently not struggling with happiness) over education have the potential to really pull him behind. If he was ruthless, there is a great way to catch up to the north of him if he ever decides he wants some really nice wonders Daltos: We don't really see much of Daltos's view this episode but it appears to me he's going crossbows before unis. I don't know if he intends to attack someone or if it's just the perceived threat of being next to Lewis. His production focused path has caused him to start to fall behind a bit on tech and he could overcome it by getting universities up quickly but I think he's still focused on war first, school second. At least of all the players that went honor he seems to be actively searching for ways to farm units to keep getting his bonuses, setting up shop on the islands to farm barbs. Will be interesting to see if Rythian's island ambitions start to interfere with that. We do see that on the demo screen he is leading crop yield, which to me is the most important one for most of the game. So there's still potential he's on a good trajectory to catch up to the Zulu nerds.

[@Thoran666]

TLDR : Demographics Screen Analysis: Important Metrics: Crop Yield, Manufactured Goods, and GNP are reliable as they directly reflect food, hammer, and gold production. However, GNP does not account for expenses. Land: Only considers owned land tiles, excluding lakes or sea tiles, which benefits inland players. Literacy: Generally reliable but can be misleading due to rounding. Soldiers: Can be misleading as it includes unit health and upgrades, favoring melee units. Population: Misleading due to exponential calculation per city rather than empire-wide. followed by a per player breakdown.

[@therealcygnus1917]

Civ Daddy knows his shit

[@astar_m41]

Civ Daddy strikes again

[@Pratalax]

"...Harappa," "The rapper?" underappreciated gag

[@BodywiseMustard]

Keeck!.... Ponch....

[@Dacamster101]

Lewis: *training strong longswordsman * Also Lewis: "Ive gone the wrong way on the tech tree guys Sly Lewis, i see what you did there

[@rustyshackelford3590]

Daltons just casually insulting an entire religious group and one of the most chill ones at that.

[@svenrio8521]

Unprovoked Aggression is Daltos's MO.

[@LeDoctorBones]

14:32, Lewis as second in literacy is under the average literacy. You've gotta love averages.

[@Anralia]

I imagine that stat normalises science:cities_percentage_nerf ratio + techs researched. so because he has many cities he is lower in the leaderboard

[@LeDoctorBones]

@@Anralia Isn't literacy simply techs researched divided by total possible techs? Also, my comment wasn't because Lewis' science is bad, but because he is second best and still below average. It was a joke on how weird averages are sometimes.

[@Backyard_Brouhaha]

Rythian could have settled like 6 or 7 cities if he went coastal and settled north next to Kirsty and killed that isolated city.

[@BadVideoWatcher1]

In awe of how bad Rythian's empire is

[@nessle420]

was so surprised his science was decently keeping up with 2 cities and that start, guess library was really good

[@daddysempaichan]

It's what happens when you invest in an early war and get literally nothing out of it.

[@jonathanpilcher337]

​@@daddysempaichansure but you wouldn't expect that to ruin his entire game

[@jepeman]

Lack of workers doesn't help.

[@spiner9099]

@@jonathanpilcher337 yes, you would

[@WestOfEarth]

Rythian: Everyone gang up on Kirsty Also Rythian: Turtles

[@raf4933]

rythian try to settle more than two cities in the early game challenge (impossible)

[@MCellation]

8:22 In Hungarian we literally just call it the end of the bread, 'kenyérvég'.

[@robbertokromwell]

My Dutch family calls the bread ends 'kapjes'

[@jhewitt119]

You have to put it out there Civ 5 is an ultimate PC game

[@Thoran666]

Depending on what people call the end of the bread you can tell what region of Germany, Austria or Switzerland they are from despite all speaking German.

[@jpDragna]

Butt of the bread, but that's cause my dad calls it culino or culo. Also man Daltos doesn't like anything nice, I love culo. I will say american bread the culo isn't great, but neither is the rest of the bread.

[@ZackDunham]

Anyone notice that Duncan’s Dalle Llama in the city of Aang is Monk Gyatso😂

[@33m3c]

wow just in time for lunch 😎

[@33m3c]

greggs

[@BodywiseMustard]

Vary common

[@BodywiseMustard]

Knock knock run

[@Aura-Of-Syrinx]

riot shields are NOT ballistic shields xD

[@Aura-Of-Syrinx]

and we call that bit of bread the prized piece

[@randomslimer]

Yay part 5

[@june-ls1hw]

Rythian I love your editing

[@OzwotWolf]

We called it "Knock a'door run" down in dorset

[@TheyCallHimMuse]

Same in Worcester. It's not flashy, but it works :)

[@JustOneQuestion]

Same up in Yorkshire.

[@OodldoodlNoodlesocks]

Here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama...

[@fidoruh]

my family calls the end of bread the butt

[@boblolrus]

Nice!

[@zxG777]

Knock door run

[@kinesta]

20 x 20 cage match!!

[@Quadrophiniac]

Are they playing with any mods? or is this just Vanilla Civ 5? They may have mentioned earlier in the series, but I forget lol Also, Kirsty is doing really well this game!

[@deamongimli]

Lekmod.

[@rei9462]

nice

[@petergriffin5450]

What is the mod they're playing and how do you get it? I need this, please help! :D

[@bennyaltmann875]

Kangaroos are pretty much dogs that stand on there back legs and tails yet they only throw claws hahaha

[@bennyaltmann875]

I've decided that I want to be a kangaroo in my next life

[@SamWulfign]

So Daltos just wants Holy from One piece then?

[@robinsandquist]

Didn't notice Rythian had such a scanian accent before, is that correct?

[@Ella-hy9xh]

Duncan lying about his science. He clearly has the upper paw.

[@Quadrophiniac]

At least he was in the 50s, so he was only partly lying

[@beepbop6542]

No one building writers and artists guild is hurting me. BNW nerfed culture buildings, so you really need great works to keep up with culture!

[@Franzibald_]

If you are referring to vanilla BNW balance, no good multiplayer player ever gets a great work because you can only generate very few great people that are not scientists without becoming uncompetitive.

[@beepbop6542]

@@Franzibald_ Just a few turns to build a guild will generate free GP points. It can make a big difference. It's possible they're afraid of being accused of trying for culture victory though lol.

[@alanwheatcraft]

Why 480p max?

[@Darkrai538]

Does anyone know what mods they use?

[@dragonzord6615]

The end of the loaf of bread is the best part!

[@nen1811]

I felt very validated for the first few seconds when they mentioned Knicky Knocky Nine Doors.

[@dororo101]

I feel like wonders in 4X games are always annoying. Like I wish that you had an opportunity to build wonders at certain times rather than a huge rush for tech and to get it out. Also why should I stop building my cool building because someone built a building? There can be two pyramids. Is it like a copyright thing?

[@okram2k]

Wonders in 4x games are things you build to keep your lead, not to catch up.

[@dororo101]

@@okram2k yeah it’s just a bit to gamey. I like old world and humankind’s more rp take on the genre

[@FluffyDragon]

You'd think more games would let everyone build them, but you just get an extra bonus benefit if you built the very first one, or something Would make way more sense for it to work that way So like, let's say its one where you get a granary in every city. Everyone gets that if they build it. But the person who built it first gets an extra food bonus in the city it was built in or something

[@dororo101]

@@FluffyDragon this is a great idea btw

[@bennyaltmann875]

The shit bit

[@chknzgd137]

I miss Sjin :*(

[@BodywiseMustard]

I wouldn't recommend doing that. Perhaps look into what happened.

[@greennumber7aimcom]

I feel like a better measure than 'how much science do you have?' would be how many turns does future tech take. That way it takes into account number of cities etc.

[@thesonofthesouth]

Knock door run